6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2018 Class => Topic started by: fordham96 on December 22, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
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Another Louisiana kid evidently being recruited by SJU. Currently ranked #73 by Rivals but set to move up. Currently states that SJU and Baylor recruiting him the hardest right now.
http://www.hoopseen.com/news/event/201612/chick-fil-classic-day-one-greg-williams-has-his-moment?utm_content=buffer35ce0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
GREG WILLIAMS SHOWS HIS VALUE
Leading his Lafayette Christian bunch into battle against a very talented Westlake High bunch, a team boasting Chuma Okeke, a top-50 recruit headed to Auburn, Greg Williams stepped his game up and then some. Missing their own top-100 recruit in Galen Alexander, the 6-foot-3 junior guard took the court by storm and showed just why he is such a heavily thought of recruit from down south.
As explosive as can be, Williams threw down the dunk of the night off of a putback jam that showed just how athletic he really is. However, the Lafayette guard isn’t a one-trick pony as he wields a very confident and mechanically sound perimeter jumper, a shot that he connected on three times. Leading his team with 18 points and seven rebounds, Williams’ calming presence, athleticism, feel for the game, and versatility in the backcourt should enable for a highly followed college recruitment.
Holding ten offers at the time being, the talented junior spoke a bit on his college stock. “Right now, I am probably hearing the most from St. John’s and Baylor,” Williams said.
“It’s a big city and a good environment,” the high level athlete said about St. John’s. “They’re staff is a very seasoned one with a lot of NBA experience that played at that level.”
Williams went on to speak about Baylor. “I was supposed to visit for a football game,” he said. “They have a good system and the school is good. They’re like a big family environment and a good Christian school.”
Thanks to his impressive array of passes, finishes and the ability to make jump shots, Baylor and St. John’s won’t have it easy for that much longer as Williams looks like he has the talents to become a blueblood recruit as a member of the 2018 class.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/1606
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Andrew Slater @ASlater247 6 hours ago
4🌟Greg Williams'18 has been hearing a lot from Baylor, St.John's, TX A&M, Nevada, Arkansas, Butler, Iowa St, OK St. http://247sports.com/Player/Greg-Williams-91813 …
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Abdelmassih in Louisiana today for four-star 2018 guard Greg Williams. #sjubb
Per Zach B
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... And it's already not going well
Matt Abdelmassih @mabde33 1m1 minute ago
Great start to the trip. Tornado 🌪 in New Orleans #recruitingtrip
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Looks to be just as highly touted as Luther Muhammad, same type of skill sets, body types. Backup plan or tandem the both with Williams at PG, Luther at the 2?
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http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/high-school/2017/01/11/greg-williams-excelling-leader-role-knights/96448498/
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http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/sports/high_schools/article_436c7c20-0bc7-5273-996c-b24bc3b98a96.html
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MVP In State Finals
http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2017/03/10/lca-breaks-through-wins-state-title-against-southern-lab/99002522/
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This is the type of recruit we need to get. A borderline top 100 and four star guy. This is the type of recruit that the elite programs recruit and retain. Are we still on top of his list?
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This is the type of recruit we need to get. A borderline top 100 and four star guy. This is the type of recruit that the elite programs recruit and retain. Are we still on top of his list?
Ellison, Mussini and Yakwe fit this description. I think getting them is big deal. Norm got them all the time. We need coaching to make them into better players. So far, the improvement from the sophomores has been a slow climb. Ideally, by the time they are seniors, they are ready to contribute at a BE level. That's better than nothing, but it would keep us on the very same plan that Lavin had us on.
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This is the type of recruit we need to get. A borderline top 100 and four star guy. This is the type of recruit that the elite programs recruit and retain. Are we still on top of his list?
Ellison, Mussini and Yakwe fit this description. I think getting them is big deal. Norm got them all the time. We need coaching to make them into better players. So far, the improvement from the sophomores has been a slow climb. Ideally, by the time they are seniors, they are ready to contribute at a BE level. That's better than nothing, but it would keep us on the very same plan that Lavin had us on.
Norm didn't get a lot of four star players, Lavin did though. It's important to develop them of course but have to get them through the doors first before you can make them better. We will see how the players improve from this year to next.
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Per Corey Evans
St. John's, Texas A&M, Houston & Alabama expected in this week for 4-star @HoustonHoops17U guard Greg Williams Jr. n.rivals.com/content/prospe…
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/keldon-johnson-completes-dominant-weekend-at-the-nike-eybl
Quote: “It is going good. It is getting bigger more and more as the spring and summer progresses. I am hearing lately form Alabama, LSU, UCLA a little bit, Thad Matta a little from Ohio State, St. John’s, and schools like that.”
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@NYPost_Brazille
St. John's still envisions a big 2018 class. Could take 2 guards. Have kept recruiting Greg Williams, a four-star. #sjubb
Heard they may start turning it up for Greg. Was quiet this summer, played very little.
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@NYPost_Brazille
St. John's still envisions a big 2018 class. Could take 2 guards. Have kept recruiting Greg Williams, a four-star. #sjubb
Heard they may start turning it up for Greg. Was quiet this summer, played very little.
I had actually forgotten about Williams. I don't believe he participated during the summer circuit.
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Pulling a kid from LA would be very surprising. They usually make the trip to NYC and stay close to home. SEC swag. We have been to this rodeo before.
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Insiders, what's the latest during this open period? Are we prioritizing Anthony Nelson over him? I know that we're actively involved, official visit this Fall a possibility? Love his game.
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Insiders, what's the latest during this open period? Are we prioritizing Anthony Nelson over him? I know that we're actively involved, official visit this Fall a possibility? Love his game.
Anthony Nelson cut his list to 5 and SJU wasn't on it
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I guess it's time to turn our attention here. Anybody know why he had such a quiet summer? Are there any issues?
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I guess it's time to turn our attention here. Anybody know why he had such a quiet summer? Are there any issues?
Not aware of any particular issues, but I know he wasn't on the summer circuit. He could've been privately working on his game.
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If I were Matt, I'd put the full court press on Williams.
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St John's will host four-star guard Greg Williams on official visit October 27-29. #sjubb
Braziler
Good to be getting a visit, anyone hear anything on chance with Williams
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St John's will host four-star guard Greg Williams on official visit October 27-29. #sjubb
Braziler
Good to be getting a visit, anyone hear anything on chance with Williams
Decent, but certainly not a "lock". I believe Iowa State & a southern high major working on him as well.
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Hopefully he wants to leave the south for a bigger city experience. If we land a kid like this, we would make the loss of Muhammad a relative wash.
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Hopefully he wants to leave the south for a bigger city experience. If we land a kid like this, we would make the loss of Muhammad a relative wash.
An argument can be made that he is a better prospect than Luther. Same height, ESPN ranks them both at a 82 and they are both ranked within the 20's at their position. I really like GWill's leadership qualities and intangibles in the articles that I've read about him.
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Hopefully he wants to leave the south for a bigger city experience. If we land a kid like this, we would make the loss of Muhammad a relative wash.
Hopefully I win Powerball too. All the effort we put into some of these kids only to be told later "he never seriously considered St Johns"? To quote Glen Gary Glen Ross, "get them to sign...on the line...which is dotted" That is really the only thing that matters. The rest is subjectivity.
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I understand that too, but our entire starting roster and beyond are generally 4-star players pretty much if not JcAA's etc and even Simon who was a 5-star. We are landing these kids, if not as often nor as many as the blue bloods. We are also landing excellent transfers. We haven't won enough to consistently sell anything to recruits, so our recruiting inconsistency makes total sense. We certainly have to win to get more consistent. If Matt A gave up as often as the fans did, we'd definitely be in trouble.
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Also, maybe we aren't paying (or paying as well?)
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This particular tweet is connected to the Josh Roberts' tweet. So, I'm guessing the staff is also going to see Williams tomorrow.
Adam ZagoriaVerified account @AdamZagoria
Then going to Louisiana to see 2018 Greg Williams.
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Per Zach B
Four star guard Greg Williams official visit on as scheduled to St John’s. Starts Friday. #sjubb
Like our chances here
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Per Zach B
Four star guard Greg Williams official visit on as scheduled to St John’s. Starts Friday. #sjubb
Like our chances here
Nice! Just don't compare him to Luther on Twitter.
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I hope you’re right Paultz. Would be amazing to land a kid that is at same level as LuthwrZ. Maybe a little more offense. Set us up well... fingers crossed.
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Any chance we can get a commitment on this visit? That would be pretty cool.
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I never give much credence to the crstal ball nonsense, but do know Andrew Slater is pretty wired to SJU hoops. Fwiw, He picked the Johnnies to land Williams tiday. Stay tuned.
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I never give much credence to the crstal ball nonsense, but do know Andrew Slater is pretty wired to SJU hoops. Fwiw, He picked the Johnnies to land Williams tiday. Stay tuned.
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Must be on the visit. Tocontent://media/external/file/17173o many variable
Must be on the visit otherwise our chances decline too much
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Any good news to report?
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Give it a few weeks, looking good is my sense.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/10/31/greg-williams-closing-decision-following-st-johns-visit/
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Williams, the 6-foot-4, 205-pound combo guard from Lafayette (LA) Christian Academy, is closing in on a college decision following his most recent official visit to St. John’s for their Midnight Madness event.
Ranked the No. 26 shooting guard in the Class of 2018 by 247Sports.com, Williams also took officials to Tulane and Nevada.
“I’m pretty confident he’s going to sign during the early period,” Greg Williams Sr. said Tuesday by phone. “He likes the choices that he has. A lot of coaches are calling and asking [when he’s going to sign]. They’re hopeful that he doesn’t sign in the early period that they can re-recruit him, but I’m pretty confident he’ll sign in the early period.”
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I'm glad staff stayed on Greg. A player I've always liked and more heady of a player than other guards we've gone after. I liked Muhammed's upside more but Greg is more of a baller. Makes plays, clutch, and solid all around. A really good 4 year player who can contribute right away. Need more building blocks like this.
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+1 Dave. He also seems to be a high character individual who serves his community off the court and leads his teams on it. Much like Scottie Lewis 2019, Mullin likes top100s kids who see the bigger picture and are somewhat humble. Everything I read about him over the past year seems to fit that mold.
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Stay tuned this weekend I sense. :)
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Stay tuned this weekend I sense. :)
Paultz beat me to it. I was told he is lock, staff was given such information recently.
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Hopefully it plays out. Need to land some recruits that we have earmarked.
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Stay tuned this weekend I sense. :)
Paultz beat me to it. I was told he is lock, staff was given such information recently.
Signing period begins tomorrow morning, any insight insiders?
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Stay tuned this weekend I sense. :)
Paultz beat me to it. I was told he is lock, staff was given such information recently.
Signing period begins tomorrow morning, any insight insiders?
Sense next week quite possible.
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Stay tuned this weekend I sense. :)
Paultz beat me to it. I was told he is lock, staff was given such information recently.
Signing period begins tomorrow morning, any insight insiders?
Sense next week quite possible.
Hopefully Williams comes through next week. Roberts, Dixon, Kieta, Diakite, and Williams would inject some good talent and depth into the program next season.
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Stay tuned mid week
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Stay tuned mid week
Thank you sir.
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Wednesday announcement :) :) :)
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Wednesday announcement :) :) :)
Johnnies Pride
@JohnniesPride
2018 major target @gthemenace will be making his decision Wednesday 2:30 at @LCAKnights #SJUBB 🗽🏀
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Why does it feel like the second coming of Lee Green? 6'3 athletic guard, good defender, not a good shooter. Hopefully we can get more out of him than Lou did out of the aforementioned lee Green. i actually didn't think lee got much of a chance.
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https://future150.com/hs/basketball-profiles/greg-williams-sf-2018
STRENGTHS
3pt Shooting
Ball-Handling
Finishing Through Contact
Leadership Skills
Making Correct Passes
Offensive Rebounding
Scoring On All Three Levels
Size For Position
Upper Body Strength
Ability To Create Plays
High Basketball IQ
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https://future150.com/hs/basketball-profiles/greg-williams-sf-2018
STRENGTHS
3pt Shooting
Ball-Handling
Finishing Through Contact
Leadership Skills
Making Correct Passes
Offensive Rebounding
Scoring On All Three Levels
Size For Position
Upper Body Strength
Ability To Create Plays
High Basketball IQ
They forgot:
Completes homework assignments on time
Never heard of this cite but he is a 3 star on Rivals and I remember reading he shot 17% from 3. Not saying he isn't a good pick up I certainly hope that he is.
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Why does it feel like the second coming of Lee Green? 6'3 athletic guard, good defender, not a good shooter. Hopefully we can get more out of him than Lou did out of the aforementioned lee Green. i actually didn't think lee got much of a chance.
Where’d you get that from? Kid is a scorer... nobody said he wasn’t a good shooter...
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Why does it feel like the second coming of Lee Green? 6'3 athletic guard, good defender, not a good shooter. Hopefully we can get more out of him than Lou did out of the aforementioned lee Green. i actually didn't think lee got much of a chance.
Where’d you get that from? Kid is a scorer... nobody said he wasn’t a good shooter...
Correction 4 star on Rivals it is ESPN that only gave him an 82 rating. IDK if he is a "good shooter" or not but if you judge it by 3 point shooting and the 17% I read is correct than he is not a good outside shooter. Hey I liked Lee Green and said he never received a real chance and I hope Williams turns out to be great.
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Doubt he’s shooing 17%... where was that from? Sounds erroneous.
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His coach calls describes him as a "fairly decent shooter" (coaches usually talk up, ... based on rest of description, it's likely not a strength..like Justin Simon..
Lafayette Christian coach Byron Starks says whoever gets Williams is getting a player who can contribute right away.
“I think whatever schools gets him is going to have a great person, most importantly,” Starks said. “On the court, he’s a combo guard. He can play one, two, multiple positions and he’s a great a rebounder for a guard of his size. Shoots the ball fairly decent and is extremely athletic in terms of getting to the rim and getting the shot that he needs.”
http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/11/13/greg-williams-announced-wednesday/
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Max preps has his cumulative stats as 56% from the field, 43% from 3... 6 rebs per game. 114 or 156 at the line, whatever that percentage is... max preps has all the games. 43% from three is quite good...
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Max preps has his cumulative stats as 56% from the field, 43% from 3... 6 rebs per game. 114 or 156 at the line, whatever that percentage is... max preps has all the games. 43% from three is quite good...
Well that's good, 43 percent is excellent (just wonder how many he took if his coach is calling him a fairly decent outside shooter). 17% may have been from AAU summer circuit (not sure, just remember reading it somewhere).
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Max preps has his cumulative stats as 56% from the field, 43% from 3... 6 rebs per game. 114 or 156 at the line, whatever that percentage is... max preps has all the games. 43% from three is quite good...
Well that's good, 43 percent is excellent (just wonder how many he took if his coach is calling him a fairly decent outside shooter). 17% may have been from AAU summer circuit (not sure, just remember reading it somewhere).
39 of 91
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https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/greg-williams-1606
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Through eight games this season against such top-tier teams as Washington-Marion, reigning Class 1A champion Madison Prep and defending Class 5A title winner Scotlandville, which boasts one of the top sophomores in the country — Williams has shot 51.4 percent from the field, 44 percent from beyond the arc and 82.6 percent from the free-throw stripe
http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/sports/high_schools/article_436c7c20-0bc7-5273-996c-b24bc3b98a96.html
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/11/13/greg-williams-announced-wednesday/
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I noticed it'll load another video or two of Williams' AAU highlights after viewing the initial one.
http://www.courtsidefilms.com/news_article/show/647157
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https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/greg-williams-1606
Kid looks awesome... long arms, defends hard, elite athlete and can shoot too. Goes with both hands with very good handle. I’ve seen a bit of video, not just that one.. let’s get this done!
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https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/greg-williams-1606
Kid looks awesome... long arms, defends hard, elite athlete and can shoot too. Goes with both hands with very good handle. I’ve seen a bit of video, not just that one.. let’s get this done!
Doesn't look very fluid. Shot isn't pretty either.
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https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/greg-williams-1606
Kid looks awesome... long arms, defends hard, elite athlete and can shoot too. Goes with both hands with very good handle. I’ve seen a bit of video, not just that one.. let’s get this done!
Doesn't look very fluid. Shot isn't pretty either.
You’re right... changed my mind... Balamou...
All seriousness, this kid is a shorter version of Pointer. Kid can block shots, rebound extremely well and is tough.
https://youtu.be/fG5gX8x4sco
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https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/greg-williams-1606
Kid looks awesome... long arms, defends hard, elite athlete and can shoot too. Goes with both hands with very good handle. I’ve seen a bit of video, not just that one.. let’s get this done!
Doesn't look very fluid. Shot isn't pretty either.
You’re right... changed my mind... Balamou...
All seriousness, this kid is a shorter version of Pointer. Kid can block shots, rebound extremely well and is tough.
https://youtu.be/fG5gX8x4sco
Ridiculous comparison.
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https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/greg-williams-1606
Kid looks awesome... long arms, defends hard, elite athlete and can shoot too. Goes with both hands with very good handle. I’ve seen a bit of video, not just that one.. let’s get this done!
Doesn't look very fluid. Shot isn't pretty either.
You’re right... changed my mind... Balamou...
All seriousness, this kid is a shorter version of Pointer. Kid can block shots, rebound extremely well and is tough.
https://youtu.be/fG5gX8x4sco
Ridiculous comparison.
Well that was kinda the joke...😝
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Lot of highlights on hudl.
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Any news?
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Any news?
Tomorrow afternoon
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Sorry. Work so much don't know what day it is.
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Would be a great pickup
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https://twitter.com/gregwilliams68/status/863970122293284864
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Is he going to announce and then sign today?
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Is he going to announce and then sign today?
That's what his HS announcement said, today's last day to sign in the early period.
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Good get, another four years kid with good academics apparently.
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Official?
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Is there a stream link, Periscope?
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Is there a stream link, Periscope?
https://twitter.com/lcaknights/status/930806412397170688
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Is there a stream link, Periscope?
https://twitter.com/lcaknights/status/930806412397170688
Not sure what Peyton Manning has to do with this except to help us notice that at 6'5 he is 2 - 3 inches taller then the supposed 6'4 Williams who despite Paultzman's throwing his hat in the ring will not be considered locked up until I can read or listen to his own words which will then complete the longest run on sentence in the history of this site whose length will give me a chance to click back and congratulate the staff for a job well done.
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Is he going to announce and then sign today?
That's what his HS announcement said, today's last day to sign in the early period.
Wheres the news?
Theyre CST. Ha!
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Live feed:
https://www.facebook.com/LCAKnights/videos/vb.364393713628007/1554050524662314/?type=3&theater
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SJU baby..!
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St. John's, folks.
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and he signed his NLI on the spot
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Always nice to see a kid put on a red SJ hat at his announcement. Hope this kid becomes a solid 4 year guy for us
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I believe Mullin just gave him a call.
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Has star written all over him, this is a big time signing. Let the Luther debate begin, kudos to the staff. State champion captain, natural born leader with a good head on his shoulders.
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Good prospect, nice kid & great family. "Louisiana Curse" over! :)
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I believe Mullin just gave him a call.
Marley Paul
@MarleyPaul22
Greg Williams just called Chris Mullin from his announcement ceremony. Couldn't hear coach from the feed, but said something that made Greg's parents laugh and warn him he's on speaker #sjubb
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Good prospect, nice kid & great family. "Louisiana Curse" over! :)
Ha! I was about to say something about our hex of Louisianan kids.
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Per Future150.com
Lafayette, LA (Future150) -- Another day, another Future150 alumni is off the board! Yesterday, Columbus (MS) 6'6" small forward Robert Woodard chose Mississippi State. Today, Lafayette Christian Academy (LA) shooting guard Greg Williams chose St. John's over Nevada & Tulane.
The 6'4", 180-pound guard is a strong and aggressive slasher on the offensive end. Defensively, he's very strong on the ball and has a nose for rebounding opportunities. A rising star since his days at the middle school level, he had a strong final AAU season playing with the Houston Hoops Nike EYBL program.
A star at our 2015 Future150 Summit Camp, he came to Nashville and killed the competition, along with Louisiana native and Georgetown signee Josh LeBlanc. Here's what we had to say about him at the camp that summer.
"Williams was the most consistent player we saw all weekend long. He can score on all three levels and makes it look easy while doing it. The one thing he did extremely well this past weekend was shoot the three. Of the mutiple talented Louisiana prospects on hand, Williams is the most explosive. He vaults into the sky to either score or tug down offensive rebounds.
Players like him compete a foot higher than the competition. His play over the weekend gives him MVP honors for the Future150 Summit Camp."
Red Storm fans should be excited about the type of physically punishing combo guard they are adding in the Louisiana native.
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Welcome Greg.
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https://nypost.com/2017/11/15/st-johns-makes-another-big-splash-with-explosive-2018-guard/
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Looks like a good get. Welcome aboard Mr. Williams
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I greatly appreciate your choice. All the best to the newest Johnnie..
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Solid get.
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Solid get.
By those lazy arrogant sons of bitches
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Really liking the roster for next year. If ponds and/or Lovett stay(s) we are a very good team.
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So...many...guards.
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So...many...guards.
Assuming Lovett leaves, we'll have 5 guards. That's pretty good balance.
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So...many...guards.
Assuming Lovett leaves, we'll have 5 guards. That's pretty good balance.
Can never have too many talented guards. They are the engine that drives most teams. We will have forwards and centers as well..
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Really liking the roster for next year. If ponds and/or Lovett stay(s) we are a very good team.
Still need a true 5 that can play with his back to the basket, but a nice foundation in place otherwise
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/111517aac.html
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we must be the only fan base that has people complain after landing a 4 star player
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We might be becoming Guard U like Penn State was Linebacker U back in the day. Imagine a back court of Dixon, Williams, Simon, Trimble and hopefully Ponds and or Lovett? Front court of Diakite, Keita, Roberts, Owens and maybe Yakwe sticks around?
Bring in Mike Rice as assistant HC, and now we are talking.
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We might be becoming Guard U like Penn State was Linebacker U back in the day. Imagine a back court of Dixon, Williams, Simon, Trimble and hopefully Ponds and or Lovett? Front court of Diakite, Keita, Roberts, Owens and maybe Yakwe sticks around?
Bring in Mike Rice as assistant HC, and now we are talking.
We might be becoming Guard U like Penn State was Linebacker U back in the day. Imagine a back court of Dixon, Williams, Simon, Trimble and hopefully Ponds and or Lovett? Front court of Diakite, Keita, Roberts, Owens and maybe Yakwe sticks around?
Bring in Mike Rice as assistant HC, and now we are talking.
You don't like Clarke? Plus always the possibility AliB gets hurt, is granted a medical redshirt and wonder of wonders we have him for another year. :crazy2:
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It seems like a long time since we have signed players in the early period. At last the staff will not be running around in spring looking for leftovers/Euro's. Can be selective if there is an opening. As to too many guards, I think both Lovett and Ponds may test the waters
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Solid get.
By those lazy arrogant sons of bitches
Yeah now the slackers need to get rid of Yakwe and bring in one more quality big.
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Solid get.
By those lazy arrogant sons of bitches
Yeah now the slackers need to get rid of Yakwe and bring in one more quality big.
. I think a versatile small forward will be more in need, as we are losing Bashir, and won’t jave any scoring wings besides Simon on roster. I still think we will have at least two schollies if not more. We will have Owens, Keita, Roberts, Clark for 4/5 which should be enough. We will need a wing.
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Solid get.
By those lazy arrogant sons of bitches
Yeah now the slackers need to get rid of Yakwe and bring in one more quality big.
. I think a versatile small forward will be more in need, as we are losing Bashir, and won’t jave any scoring wings besides Simon on roster. I still think we will have at least two schollies if not more. We will have Owens, Keita, Roberts, Clark for 4/5 which should be enough. We will need a wing.
I think Clark can play some small forward too and be a mismatch strength wise. If we have two schollies left then we definitely should add another big as well. Can never have enough big bodies.
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Solid get.
By those lazy arrogant sons of bitches
Yeah now the slackers need to get rid of Yakwe and bring in one more quality big.
. I think a versatile small forward will be more in need, as we are losing Bashir, and won’t jave any scoring wings besides Simon on roster. I still think we will have at least two schollies if not more. We will have Owens, Keita, Roberts, Clark for 4/5 which should be enough. We will need a wing.
Clark and trimble will have no trouble playing some 3 behind simon who figures to get max minutes there.
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Solid get.
By those lazy arrogant sons of bitches
Yeah now the slackers need to get rid of Yakwe and bring in one more quality big.
. I think a versatile small forward will be more in need, as we are losing Bashir, and won’t jave any scoring wings besides Simon on roster. I still think we will have at least two schollies if not more. We will have Owens, Keita, Roberts, Clark for 4/5 which should be enough. We will need a wing.
I think Clark can play some small forward too and be a mismatch strength wise. If we have two schollies left then we definitely should add another big as well. Can never have enough big bodies.
Personally I think we have enough big bodies entering next year, with at minimum already 2 more plus Owens etc. SF is one of the most important positions. A wing that can stretch defenses is huge. Sedee and Eoberts plus Owens, Clark etc should be more than enough notmto feel a disadvantage, size-wise etc. we can’t enter season without a scoring wing of some type. Balance is important.
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Welcome Greg!!
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We might be becoming Guard U like Penn State was Linebacker U back in the day. Imagine a back court of Dixon, Williams, Simon, Trimble and hopefully Ponds and or Lovett? Front court of Diakite, Keita, Roberts, Owens and maybe Yakwe sticks around?
Bring in Mike Rice as assistant HC, and now we are talking.
We might be becoming Guard U like Penn State was Linebacker U back in the day. Imagine a back court of Dixon, Williams, Simon, Trimble and hopefully Ponds and or Lovett? Front court of Diakite, Keita, Roberts, Owens and maybe Yakwe sticks around?
Bring in Mike Rice as assistant HC, and now we are talking.
You don't like Clarke? Plus always the possibility AliB gets hurt, is granted a medical redshirt and wonder of wonders we have him for another year. :crazy2:
Oops, forgot about Clark, sorry!
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What odds do we put at the following next year ???
6 eligible guards all in uniform (Williams, Trimble, Dixon, Ponds, Lovett, Simon)
Lovett going overseas
Ponds drafted
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I think Lovett leaves and Ponds stays. We will see. Have to prepare for departures. Even if they both leave we will have Simon, Trimble,Williams and Dixon. But, obviously would hate to see them both depart. If Lovett leaves and Ponds stay we will still have nice depth and talent w our guards.
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Welcome Greg!
My view is to worry after the season who turns pro. We are smartly acquiring depth at the guard position in case one of our talented neophytes makes a decision to take the jump. Who knows - we may be pleasantly surprised. I was all but certain that Angel Delgado was leaving the Hall after last season - and had some fairly reputable sources tell me that -- and he came back, launching the Hall into a top 25 team. My focus is on results this season, and I'm confident that our staff will stay diligent on the recruiting front so that we have some options, if needed, come spring 2018.
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My view is to worry after the season who turns pro.
Concur.
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Welcome Greg. Let's keep collecting 4-stars and quality transfers.
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https://twitter.com/CollinKushner/status/931017549294329856
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Let me get this right. We are worried about Ponds leaving this year and you have a guy like Marcus Foster of creighton who is playing his 4/5 year of college ball that is way more pro ready right now especially from physical standpoint than Shamorie. Seems like many are jumping the gun here.
Ponds should listen to Mullin/Richmond. No two will know better than those two if he is ready to go. And if they feel this May is the time we should thank Ponds for hopefully 2 great years. However watching NBA these days one can see how hard the rapid influx of great players from Europe is making it for college kids not ready yet. The get chewed up and spit out. As much as I love Ponds., he would have a nightmare of a time with The neophyte on the Knicks
All in all Can we enjoy Williams addition for one day before complaining about something else.
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Let me get this right. We are worried about Ponds leaving this year and you have a guy like Marcus Foster of creighton who is playing his 4/5 year of college ball that is way more pro ready right now especially from physical standpoint than Shamorie. Seems like many are jumping the gun here.
Ponds should listen to Mullin/Richmond. No two will know better than those two if he is ready to go. And if they feel this May is the time we should thank Ponds for hopefully 2 great years. However watching NBA these days one can see how hard the rapid influx of great players from Europe is making it for college kids not ready yet. The get chewed up and spit out. As much as I love Ponds., he would have a nightmare of a time with The neophyte on the Knicks
All in all Can we enjoy Williams addition for one day before complaining about something else.
When has a St.John’s player ever gone pro too soon?
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Omar Cook
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Omar Cook
+1
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Really liking the roster for next year. If ponds and/or Lovett stay(s) we are a very good team.
Still need a true 5 that can play with his back to the basket, but a nice foundation in place otherwise
In 2018 we ll have the balance we havent had in 8+ years. 5-6 solid guards and 5+ bigs not named Alibegovich.
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Omar Cook
Ed Sarcasm
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https://twitter.com/CollinKushner/status/931017549294329856
What a nice kid, glad to have him on board.
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Welcome aboard Greg!!!!
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Not to take anything away from them as I like both and enjoy watching them as much as any backcourt since Barkley and Bootsy but neither one them is going to be drafted. I think greater fear is of Lovett leaving to go make some $ somewhere next year as he is a relatively older Soph. Maybe Ponds does too, who knows. But honestly since neither guy is not going to make big money in the NBA why is it a bad decision for THEM to leave early and make some $ playing basketball? The longer they are here the the longer they have to wait to get paid. It would clearly be a bad decision for us fans, but I don't think that should or would factor into their decisions.
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Why so certain that Ponds will never play in the NBA? A few games into his sophomore year, would you have projected Steph Curry to be what he's become? Ponds is young and very talented, he's noticeably stronger than last year and will continue to develop--and he is already a very good college player. He will only get better from here.
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Why so certain that Ponds will never play in the NBA? A few games into his sophomore year, would you have projected Steph Curry to be what he's become? Ponds is young and very talented, he's noticeably stronger than last year and will continue to develop--and he is already a very good college player. He will only get better from here.
I said he would not be a high draft pick and make big money right away in the NBA. I am not going to list the reasons why a college player I like will not become a high draft pick. Enjoy him while he is here.
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Ponds will explore the draft, but he won't get drafted. Still a year away. If Lovett leaves it will only help Ponds become the primary ballhandler.
Greg Williams is going to have a strong year and summer. Really good get for the squad.
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Why so certain that Ponds will never play in the NBA? A few games into his sophomore year, would you have projected Steph Curry to be what he's become? Ponds is young and very talented, he's noticeably stronger than last year and will continue to develop--and he is already a very good college player. He will only get better from here.
I said he would not be a high draft pick and make big money right away in the NBA. I am not going to list the reasons why a college player I like will not become a high draft pick. Enjoy him while he is here.
"but neither one them is going to be drafted" ;)
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Ponds is a more athletic and talented version of Sherman Douglas. If he plays some D he will be drafted low first or second round but he will have to play 4 years. Leaving early would be disasterous
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Ponds is a more athletic and talented version of Sherman Douglas. If he plays some D he will be drafted low first or second round but he will have to play 4 years. Leaving early would be disasterous
I'm not gonna say, he'll have to play four years if he does the thing you said he has to do. I'd love for him to be a four year player, but he could conceivably leave after next year, if someone tells him he's a late-first rounder (which, I think he could be in another season).
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Why so certain that Ponds will never play in the NBA? A few games into his sophomore year, would you have projected Steph Curry to be what he's become? Ponds is young and very talented, he's noticeably stronger than last year and will continue to develop--and he is already a very good college player. He will only get better from here.
I said he would not be a high draft pick and make big money right away in the NBA. I am not going to list the reasons why a college player I like will not become a high draft pick. Enjoy him while he is here.
"but neither one them is going to be drafted" ;)
Neither would get drafted in 2018, yes.
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Ponds 6’2 tops, don’t think he is that tall. 175 pounds. Isn’t a great defender. Not a true PG. Love him at St. John’s , but that guy isn’t playing in the NBA
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Ponds 6’2 tops, don’t think he is that tall. 175 pounds. Isn’t a great defender. Not a true PG. Love him at St. John’s , but that guy isn’t playing in the NBA
Robert Werdann was a disappointment at ST John's and played a few years in the league. Meanwhile Hatten, Hardy, Bootsy, Harvey never made it. People for some reason can't separate the two. Enjoy them while they are here.
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Ponds is a more athletic and talented version of Sherman Douglas. If he plays some D he will be drafted low first or second round but he will have to play 4 years. Leaving early would be disasterous
I'm not gonna say, he'll have to play four years if he does the thing you said he has to do. I'd love for him to be a four year player, but he could conceivably leave after next year, if someone tells him he's a late-first rounder (which, I think he could be in another season).
Playing 4 years will allow his body to mature. With weight room work he should be able to get to 190 and retain the quickness he needs to be successful.
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Nice great! Welcome to St. John's
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So finally got a kid from Louisiana. Building the relationship with coach/program down there pays off and I really like Williams. He's a guy who always came up big in big moments during 2 spring/summers I watched him. Similar body build to Paris Horne.
Think he comes in and contributes then makes impact as upper class man.
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https://twitter.com/CollinKushner/status/931017549294329856
Wow! Likable kid
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Welcome Greg, I wish you a wonderful 4 years.
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https://twitter.com/LCAKnights/status/941891425343541248
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Man I’m excited
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https://twitter.com/LCAKnights/status/941891425343541248
the second one is nasty
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LCAKnightsSports
@LCAKnights
Greg finishes with 25 points, 21 rebounds and 11 Blocks. Greg gets that Triple Double Tonight!! @gthemenace
6:44 PM - 26 Jan 2018 from Baton Rouge, LA
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LCAKnightsSports
@LCAKnights
Greg finishes with 25 points, 21 rebounds and 11 Blocks. Greg gets that Triple Double Tonight!! @gthemenace
6:44 PM - 26 Jan 2018 from Baton Rouge, LA
Kid is really flying under the radar, from everything I read about him on and off the court I'm already a fan of his. Can't wait to get him in the program.
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https://twitter.com/gregwilliams68/status/959883464534347777
Clearly Williams & Josh Roberts are on board. Hopefully Brooks signs in April.
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https://twitter.com/gregwilliams68/status/959883464534347777
Clearly Williams & Josh Roberts are on board. Hopefully Brooks signs in April.
Latest tweet from brooks:
Congrats to them johnnies 🤟🏽🤟🏽 Took down #4 Duke!
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https://twitter.com/gregwilliams68/status/959883464534347777
Clearly Williams & Josh Roberts are on board. Hopefully Brooks signs in April.
Latest tweet from brooks:
Congrats to them johnnies 🤟🏽🤟🏽 Took down #4 Duke!
"My" Johnnies would have been more reassuring
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https://twitter.com/gregwilliams68/status/959883464534347777
Clearly Williams & Josh Roberts are on board. Hopefully Brooks signs in April.
Latest tweet from brooks:
Congrats to them johnnies 🤟🏽🤟🏽 Took down #4 Duke!
"My" Johnnies would have been more reassuring
Williams recently assured staff he is fully committed. Same goes for Roberts. Winning a few more games can only help in getting signed LOI from Brooks. Yesterday helped immensely in my opinion.
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Also Owens and his pops seem to love SJU for those worried about grad transfer on him.
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Also Owens and his pops seem to love SJU for those worried about grad transfer on him.
Let's hope so. As for Brooks, I'll believe he is a Johnny when I see him on the layup line game 1. But that goes for all recruits, at any school
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No specific knowledge on Owens but one of my buddies showed me his Dad's twitter feed and it is as pro-SJU as you can imagine
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No specific knowledge on Owens but one of my buddies showed me his Dad's twitter feed and it is as pro-SJU as you can imagine
You see his tweets on the #sjubb Twitter time line and he responds to other fans of the program Twitter messages. He's been very, pro-SJU.
I noticed his posts was showing some discontent during the past week or two. It was much different than usual. Maybe, yesterday's win alleviated some of his frustration.
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No specific knowledge on Owens but one of my buddies showed me his Dad's twitter feed and it is as pro-SJU as you can imagine
I believe talk of his transferring is much ado about nothing for the following
1--he has improved each year under the coaches and he has their confidence in his abilities; i.e., increased 3pt. attempts
2--working with Simon and Ponds on give and goes, if he transfers he would be dependent on "new" guards getting him the ball
3--next year with Keita eligible, he will be able to play some time at the forward position which is where he has to play at the next level
4--staying with us will assure him of a team leadership role (captain) which he will not have on another team as a "new come"
5--lastly-would a new coach let him demonstrate his dancing skills as he loosens up before game which I love to watch as he gets ready. :).
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Zach B
St Johns assistant Matt Abdelmassih will see signee Greg Williams today in Louisiana. Has a playoff game. #sjubb
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Zach B
St Johns assistant Matt Abdelmassih will see signee Greg Williams today in Louisiana. Has a playoff game. #sjubb
I get nervous now when I see you posted something on a thread about an already committed recruit
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Zach B
St Johns assistant Matt Abdelmassih will see signee Greg Williams today in Louisiana. Has a playoff game. #sjubb
I get nervous now when I see you posted something on a thread about an already committed recruit
Sorry 😉 All good with Williams
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Matt A
Great seeing my guy @gthemenace in Louisana today. Fans are going to love the energy, athleticism, and passion he plays with. A lot of St Johns love in the bayou #SJUBB #futureisbright
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Matt A
Great seeing my guy @gthemenace in Louisana today. Fans are going to love the energy, athleticism, and passion he plays with. A lot of St Johns love in the bayou #SJUBB #futureisbright
Oh boy
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Matt A
Great seeing my guy @gthemenace in Louisana today. Fans are going to love the energy, athleticism, and passion he plays with. A lot of St Johns love in the bayou #SJUBB #futureisbright
Oh boy
Uh oh. Is he driving a Jag?
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Matt A
Great seeing my guy @gthemenace in Louisana today. Fans are going to love the energy, athleticism, and passion he plays with. A lot of St Johns love in the bayou #SJUBB #futureisbright
Oh boy
Oh god, please don’t tell me anything about this one .
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Matt A
Great seeing my guy @gthemenace in Louisana today. Fans are going to love the energy, athleticism, and passion he plays with. A lot of St Johns love in the bayou #SJUBB #futureisbright
Oh boy
Oh god, please don’t tell me anything about this one .
I think Baldi said that because of Matt's quote.
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Kid can jump out of the gym.
https://twitter.com/LCAKnights/status/960217833450934273
https://twitter.com/LCAKnights/status/969398409198268416
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Nice piece
https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/969730618094440448?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jeritroser/status/972258818246705152?s=21
Just like ML ::)
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https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/972301101339947009?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/972301101339947009?s=21
Not to take anything away but I believe his school competes in a very low division. They won games 86-12, 88-11, and 88-18.
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https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/972301101339947009?s=21
Tiny gym, football stadium probably holds 30,000. ;D
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https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/972301101339947009?s=21
Not to take anything away but I believe his school competes in a very low division. They won games 86-12, 88-11, and 88-18.
That is true. On plus side his school is a good one & he does well academically. He also played with solid AAU program.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
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He seems to be a good rebounder also. Finished state championship w 13 rebounds.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Simon forward. He can play some point but the last thing he is is a shooting guard.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Simon forward. He can play some point but the last thing he is is a shooting guard.
I was thinking Simon at point and Ponds at SG. Getting McGowens (or another talented PG) and putting him at PG, Ponds at SG, and Simon at SF seems ideal though.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Simon forward. He can play some point but the last thing he is is a shooting guard.
I was thinking Simon at point and Ponds at SG. Getting McGowens (or another talented PG) and putting him at PG, Ponds at SG, and Simon at SF seems ideal though.
Ponds much better pg than Simon IMO, and like my good buddy wasju has said, ponds is coming back to play point.
Ponds 1. Dixon 2. Simon and Clark as your forwards.
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And I think this is fine if Dixon can play make to some degree and knock down shots. You can play that lineup because of Simon's ability to defend, rebound, penetrate and cause havoc, and Clark's ability to knock down 3's. You'll also see some lineups with Clark at the 3 and Keita/Owens at the 4/5 or mixed with hopefully a transfer big.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Simon forward. He can play some point but the last thing he is is a shooting guard.
I was thinking Simon at point and Ponds at SG. Getting McGowens (or another talented PG) and putting him at PG, Ponds at SG, and Simon at SF seems ideal though.
Ponds much better pg than Simon IMO, and like my good buddy wasju has said, ponds is coming back to play point.
Ponds 1. Dixon 2. Simon and Clark as your forwards.
I think Ponds is a better PG too, but I think he's best when he's looking to score off the ball. I can't see Dixon starting right away, but maybe eventually. I'm excited to see Owens move over to PF, and putting Keith at C. I think Owens is much better suited for a stretch PF role and off-ball help shot blocker. If they go big I can see maybe Simon-Ponds-Clark-Owens-Keita.
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
We were ultra competitive without Ponds vs Seton Hall and Butler. Ponds is a great player and when he is playing well our potential is enormous but when he isn't it does hurt us because he will still pretty much dominate what we do. It is a team game and other players relish there time and opportunity to shine. With our increased depth we will be fine when either guy needs a rest.
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
In my opinion we need a PG.
dixion is a 2 star shooting guard, will he get minutes over ponds.
Roberts- is built like polee and he is a PF. Read somewhere that he should redshirt
Keita- I read is very raw
Don Bosco kid- 6’4 PF - 2 star
Diakite- don’t know anything
Williams- 3/4 Star combo guard- good athlete
That is my understanding of the new players. Question- are any of these guys capable of pushing our veterans for minutes?
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
In my opinion we need a PG.
dixion is a 2 star shooting guard, will he get minutes over ponds.
Roberts- is built like polee and he is a PF. Read somewhere that he should redshirt
Keita- I read is very raw
Don Bosco kid- 6’4 PF - 2 star
Diakite- don’t know anything
Williams- 3/4 Star combo guard- good athlete
That is my understanding of the new players. Question- are any of these guys capable of pushing our veterans for minutes?
Dixon was a 2 star recruit. Yakwe was a 4 star recruit. I’ll take the guy who was a conference freshmen of the year, at that point his hs rating goes out the window. I expect him to be a double digit scorer.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Trimble came to school already fat. If he doesn’t get into shape, he’s nothing more than a chucked, and he wasn’t even good at that. Should depend on his commitment to improving his conditioning and his game. We have no idea what he can do outside of his jumper because he’s so fat he can’t move.
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
In my opinion we need a PG.
dixion is a 2 star shooting guard, will he get minutes over ponds.
Roberts- is built like polee and he is a PF. Read somewhere that he should redshirt
Keita- I read is very raw
Don Bosco kid- 6’4 PF - 2 star
Diakite- don’t know anything
Williams- 3/4 Star combo guard- good athlete
That is my understanding of the new players. Question- are any of these guys capable of pushing our veterans for minutes?
If you want to take the glass 3/4 empty approach. There are probably guys in NBA who started out 2 star how long do you hang that label on a guy? Averaged 16 pts as fr. on low D1 level and should be at least a capable back up and being somewhat raw as a big does not preclude making a solid contribution. Hakeem Olajawon was considered raw when he first started playing for Houston in college but he still contributed very nicely (not comparing the two). Role and depth players don't have to be world beaters as long as core 4 stays intact and hopefully add a grad transfer who can make a solid contribution. No we are not winning the NC next year nor the BE for that matter but improvement should be noticeable and has to lead to higher rated recruits in the '19 class for us to go where we would all like to go.
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
In my opinion we need a PG.
dixion is a 2 star shooting guard, will he get minutes over ponds.
Roberts- is built like polee and he is a PF. Read somewhere that he should redshirt
Keita- I read is very raw
Don Bosco kid- 6’4 PF - 2 star
Diakite- don’t know anything
Williams- 3/4 Star combo guard- good athlete
That is my understanding of the new players. Question- are any of these guys capable of pushing our veterans for minutes?
Dixon was a 2 star recruit. Yakwe was a 4 star recruit. I’ll take the guy who was a conference freshmen of the year, at that point his hs rating goes out the window. I expect him to be a double digit scorer.
Yakwe was all rookie team in the BE. He regressed from the second his sophomore season started. At some point, the staff is going to have to show that they have something to offer outside of Chris Mullin’s name.
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
In my opinion we need a PG.
dixion is a 2 star shooting guard, will he get minutes over ponds.
Roberts- is built like polee and he is a PF. Read somewhere that he should redshirt
Keita- I read is very raw
Don Bosco kid- 6’4 PF - 2 star
Diakite- don’t know anything
Williams- 3/4 Star combo guard- good athlete
That is my understanding of the new players. Question- are any of these guys capable of pushing our veterans for minutes?
Why would you expect Dixon to get minutes over Ponds - our best player? Makes no sense - don't think anyone is expecting him to supplant Ponds but provide support.
Question should be, is Dixon better than any other reserve guard we had this year - which was Trimble and Cole (not counting Lovett) - if he is, which based on his performance last year, he should be - then that is an upgrade.
In regards to the others - Keita, Roberts, Diakite, and Earlington - are any of them better than Yakwe and Ali? A blowup doll would signify an improvement over those 2.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Simon forward. He can play some point but the last thing he is is a shooting guard.
I was thinking Simon at point and Ponds at SG. Getting McGowens (or another talented PG) and putting him at PG, Ponds at SG, and Simon at SF seems ideal though.
We can win 20+ games with Simon at the 3 and 4. We aren't going anywhere if he is PG.
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Simon is someone we should think about in the terms of positionless basketball like in the pros. I don't think he should be our primary ball handler -- especially down the stretch of a close game -- but if he shows improvement with his jumpshot (I know the #s but I'm never confident with him shooting the ball), becomes a better defender, and our 3rd/4th option on offense, we're a top 35 team.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Trimble came to school already fat. If he doesn’t get into shape, he’s nothing more than a chucked, and he wasn’t even good at that. Should depend on his commitment to improving his conditioning and his game. We have no idea what he can do outside of his jumper because he’s so fat he can’t move.
Shame on you for fat shaming the kid. You suck as a fan and a liberal. Be better
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Trimble came to school already fat. If he doesn’t get into shape, he’s nothing more than a chucked, and he wasn’t even good at that. Should depend on his commitment to improving his conditioning and his game. We have no idea what he can do outside of his jumper because he’s so fat he can’t move.
I watched Trimble's HS mix tape the other day, and couldn't believe it was the same player. Obviously the level of competition was much less, but he looked in shape, and most of the time he was handling the ball and taking it to the basket. We hardly saw any of that from him this year. Hope he wakes up and lays off the junk food so he can be more like the player in the highlights I saw.
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my understanding 4 have big east level players. Are any of these new guys good enough to push our veterans? Are they all still playing 30 plus minutes? Can’t see either simon or ponds coming off the court and still being competitive. Hope I am wrong.
So you don't anything about the new guys, but you know they won't be any good?
In my opinion we need a PG.
dixion is a 2 star shooting guard, will he get minutes over ponds.
Roberts- is built like polee and he is a PF. Read somewhere that he should redshirt
Keita- I read is very raw
Don Bosco kid- 6’4 PF - 2 star
Diakite- don’t know anything
Williams- 3/4 Star combo guard- good athlete
That is my understanding of the new players. Question- are any of these guys capable of pushing our veterans for minutes?
Why would you expect Dixon to get minutes over Ponds - our best player? Makes no sense - don't think anyone is expecting him to supplant Ponds but provide support.
Question should be, is Dixon better than any other reserve guard we had this year - which was Trimble and Cole (not counting Lovett) - if he is, which based on his performance last year, he should be - then that is an upgrade.
In regards to the others - Keita, Roberts, Diakite, and Earlington - are any of them better than Yakwe and Ali? A blowup doll would signify an improvement over those 2.
Yakwe 4 Star recuit- according to rivals had 11 offers - including nova, uconn, Kansas, and Oregon.
Saying these new guys are better then him is far from a definite. Ahmed was also lost.
Was not comparing Dixon to ponds. But ponds can’t play 40 every night. Expecting Dixon to be a double digit scorer is a little ambitious. Trimble and the walk on are not big east level players (yet).
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Trimble came to school already fat. If he doesn’t get into shape, he’s nothing more than a chucked, and he wasn’t even good at that. Should depend on his commitment to improving his conditioning and his game. We have no idea what he can do outside of his jumper because he’s so fat he can’t move.
Shame on you for fat shaming the kid. You suck as a fan and a liberal. Be better
Pete, are you a fat guy? I’m sorry if I offended you and the rights of fat people everywhere. This is an 18 year old male college freshman. Don’t be such a PC snowflake pussy.
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Did you actually say that Poison,? Did you hear the one about what one snowflake
said to the other?
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Trimble came to school already fat. If he doesn’t get into shape, he’s nothing more than a chucked, and he wasn’t even good at that. Should depend on his commitment to improving his conditioning and his game. We have no idea what he can do outside of his jumper because he’s so fat he can’t move.
Shame on you for fat shaming the kid. You suck as a fan and a liberal. Be better
Trimble should call the Powell kid from SHU and ask what a difference it makes when you are actually in shape vs. out of shape...
Trimble needs to lose 15 - 20lbs... don't forget, Coach Mullin was a fitness freak as a player after he returned from rehab. He was always among league leaders in minutes played, regularly rode stationary bike for an hour after playing 40 minutes and he is not going to stand for kids being out of shape.
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Greg reminds me of the Khyri Thomas, and other lower rated recruits who end up going to other schools in the Big East then turn into great college players. I think he's going to be a real difference maker down the road.
He’s a 4 star on some of the sites. He will have an impact right away hopefully.
True. The guard rotation looks to be pretty crowded next year. I wonder what the pecking order will be. If everyone returns you would have Ponds and Simon as the starters, and maybe a third guard depending how the roster turns out. Then you have Trimble, Williams, and Dixon. Wonder how the minutes will be split among those three guys. Also looks like they're recruiting anther guard for next year in McGowens. Maybe the staff is anticipating Trimble leaving or Ponds going to the NBA?
Trimble came to school already fat. If he doesn’t get into shape, he’s nothing more than a chucked, and he wasn’t even good at that. Should depend on his commitment to improving his conditioning and his game. We have no idea what he can do outside of his jumper because he’s so fat he can’t move.
Shame on you for fat shaming the kid. You suck as a fan and a liberal. Be better
Trimble should call the Powell kid from SHU and ask what a difference it makes when you are actually in shape vs. out of shape...
Trimble needs to lose 15 - 20lbs... don't forget, Coach Mullin was a fitness freak as a player after he returned from rehab. He was always among league leaders in minutes played, regularly rode stationary bike for an hour after playing 40 minutes and he is not going to stand for kids being out of shape.
Powell is a much better player fat or in shape.
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I wouldn't mind if Williams turned into Paris Horne
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I wouldn't mind if he turned into Ray Allen. I mean if we are just speculating on a player who has not played a minute of college ball why not go for broke right?
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I wouldn't mind if he turned into Ray Allen. I mean if we are just speculating on a player who has not played a minute of college ball why not go for broker right?
I'll take that too. But If I set the bar lower,maybe we will be pleasantly surprised
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I wouldn't mind if Williams turned into Paris Horne
That is what I was thinking. Problem this team needs senior Paris not freshman Paris.
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I wouldn't mind if Williams turned into Paris Horne
That is what I was thinking. Problem this team needs senior Paris not freshman Paris.
No it needs junior shamorie ponds. Freshmen Horne would be just fine.
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I wouldn't mind if Williams turned into Paris Horne
That is what I was thinking. Problem this team needs senior Paris not freshman Paris.
No it needs junior shamorie ponds. Freshmen Horne would be just fine.
Without ponds. Season ends before it begins. As does complete rebuild. Even with ponds can’t play 4 vs 4 half court. Need to find some capable BIG east players. I am so thankful for a full roster, never have to hear about cupards again. Depth is going to be a problem unless someone or a few someone step up.
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I wouldn't mind if Williams turned into Paris Horne
That is what I was thinking. Problem this team needs senior Paris not freshman Paris.
Junior Simon brings a lot of what senior Horne did. He may not be as good the ball defensively, but he gets the deflections, causes some panic, passes better, and he rebounds far better. If the staff ever used him as an offensive rebounding threat, look out.
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I wouldn't mind if Williams turned into Paris Horne
That is what I was thinking. Problem this team needs senior Paris not freshman Paris.
Junior Simon brings a lot of what senior Horne did. He may not be as good the ball defensively, but he gets the deflections, causes some panic, passes better, and he rebounds far better. If the staff ever used him as an offensive rebounding threat, look out.
Staff needs to watch how Roy Williams utilizes Theo Pinson. Simon has a similar skillset to Pinson and Roy is getting the most out of Pinson there. Obviously different skill level of players around him but Pinson still taking control of games on both ends against elite teams.
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I wouldn't mind if Williams turned into Paris Horne
That is what I was thinking. Problem this team needs senior Paris not freshman Paris.
Junior Simon brings a lot of what senior Horne did. He may not be as good the ball defensively, but he gets the deflections, causes some panic, passes better, and he rebounds far better. If the staff ever used him as an offensive rebounding threat, look out.
If we could so how find a JUCO PG who could play. My entire perspective would change.
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Williams will help a lot next season with his defense & interest in rebounding. A very good player in time!
https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/980453155367542784?s=21
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Williams will help a lot next season with his defense & interest in rebounding. A very good player in time!
https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/980453155367542784?s=21
Will help a lot next season or will be a very good player in time?
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Williams will help a lot next season with his defense & interest in rebounding. A very good player in time!
https://twitter.com/jamesbewers/status/980453155367542784?s=21
Will help a lot next season or will be a very good player in time?
Should help next season
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Can't wait to see this kid develop over 4y with Chris:
https://twitter.com/CollinKushner/status/1015439703548596225
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IDK about this kid...he hasn't tried pizza or bagels??? WTF??? :)