DEFENSE?

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hnk

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DEFENSE?
« on: July 27, 2016, 01:04:14 PM »
Anyone think with 10 guys plus fighting for playing time we might try 40 minutes of hell defense....if not what will our defensive scheme be?  Who are our best defensive guards?

Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2016, 01:23:41 PM »
I really liked the full court 1 2 1 1 defense we used last year at times. With quicker guards and Owens fitting the front-man role perfectly I think we will see it a lottt more of it this coming season.
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2016, 01:24:22 PM »
Also there is no reason in the world why Lovett should be a below average defender. He has all the tools to be a great one.
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2016, 01:57:39 PM »
He is a little small.....pick and roll? ....foul trouble?  too offense-minded? I hope you are right on Lovett. Ponds while slight has long arms and seems like he might really be pesky on defense if he can stay out of you trouble....Malik is tall and long armed....if he can gain a step he can be a terror if he stays out of foul trouble.
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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2016, 02:31:23 PM »
I love playing defense like this. Besides yakwe, who can do it? Still I would rather give points up being aggressive .

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 02:56:47 PM »
Sima and Owens can both run the court.....in fact, everyone can except maybe Amar.....plus it creates playing time because guys will be tired.
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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2016, 03:45:39 PM »
Sima and Owens can both run the court.....in fact, everyone can except maybe Amar.....plus it creates playing time because guys will be tired.
Owens looks athletic. Never saw him play. Do we really want to create playing time? How many quality players do we have?

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2016, 03:58:13 PM »
Time will tell...by next year, we should have the equivalent of ten top 100's including 5 top 50.

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2016, 03:59:56 PM »
Lovett, Simon, Clark, Brown, Yakwe, RF, Bashir, Malik,Sima,

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2016, 04:09:14 PM »
How many quality players do we have?

There's more talent on this team than there has been for 20 years. Stop whining or go root for Kentucky.

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2016, 04:35:53 PM »
How many quality players do we have?

There's more talent on this team than there has been for 20 years. Stop whining or go root for Kentucky.
Foady - u whined like a bitch when we were good.

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2016, 04:38:33 PM »
u whined like a bitch when we were good.

When were we good stupid?
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2016, 08:17:08 PM »
u whined like a bitch when we were good.

When were we good stupid?

Hahaha

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2016, 10:01:09 AM »
I think the key to this season is defense.  If we can hold teams to 65 points  or so, we will be in every game.  Think Virginia.   Limit runouts.  Limit gratuitous fouls.  Solid rotations.  Continuous ball pressure.  Create turnovers and forced shots.
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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2016, 12:46:29 PM »
Think Virginia.

I thought we were going to play an up tempo NBA game that emphasized the 3 point shot? Were you referring to the Virginia Squires?

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2016, 02:03:01 PM »
Think Virginia.

I thought we were going to play an up tempo NBA game that emphasized the 3 point shot? Were you referring to the Virginia Squires?

+1

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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2016, 03:24:32 PM »
I think if we play good defense, we can win and if we don't, we won't.  NBA and NCAA playoff teams that make deep playoff runs normally play great defense. That's what I'm hoping for.

Are you guys expecting Yakwe and Sima and Amar and Owens (and even Ahmed)  and some of the others to make a lot of threes? I'm not, but there's no reason why the team as a team and individually can't play terrific defense.

We will pay an enormous price is there is no emphasis on defense.

Virginia has guys who make threes, but they play smart with few turnovers and win because of their D.

With ten players competing for PT, the staff should be demanding great defensive effort.

Playing up tempo and shooting threes cannot be an excuse for bad defense.
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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2016, 04:09:01 PM »
I think if we play good defense, we can win and if we don't, we won't.  NBA and NCAA playoff teams that make deep playoff runs normally play great defense. That's what I'm hoping for.

Are you guys expecting Yakwe and Sima and Amar and Owens (and even Ahmed)  and some of the others to make a lot of threes? I'm not, but there's no reason why the team as a team and individually can't play terrific defense.

We will pay an enormous price is there is no emphasis on defense.

Virginia has guys who make threes, but they play smart with few turnovers and win because of their D.

With ten players competing for PT, the staff should be demanding great defensive effort.

Playing up tempo and shooting threes cannot be an excuse for bad defense.

Virginia scored fewer than 70 points in 18 of their games. They scored over 80 points 5 times. If you think that's the sort of game plan Chris Mullin and Mitch Richmond are planning I suspect you will be disappointed. Mullin didn't play defense when he was in college, why should he start caring about it now.

We are all hoping that everyone plays good defense. No one is hoping there is no emphasis on defense. No one is hoping that no one demands great defensive effort. What you are talking about when you talk about 60 points a game is tempo, not defense. This team is not being built to play at a 60 point a game tempo and if they play at the tempo they will lose, I don't care what kind of defense they play. Plus it will be horrible and boring. For the past 30 years I've been hearing about how we should run more, now we're allegedly going to run and you want to play the four corners and win 60-49. Not me, I want to lose 87-84.



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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2016, 04:23:03 PM »
Good defense is an antidote to poor shooting nights, years, decades, generations.  But I guess poor shooting and unforced turnovers are  not things we have to worry about. 

I think I said an average of 65 points or so.

I'd rather win. And be competitive in every or almost every game.
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Re: DEFENSE?
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2016, 07:45:20 PM »
Good defense is an antidote to poor shooting nights, years, decades, generations.  But I guess poor shooting and unforced turnovers are  not things we have to worry about. 

I think I said an average of 65 points or so.

I'd rather win. And be competitive in every or almost every game.

I agree. Winning and being competitive is much better than losing by 20 regularly