6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2017 Class => Topic started by: Amaseinyourface2 on October 17, 2014, 05:14:04 PM
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Another kid at midnight madness. Id liked to hear chillebs thoughts on him. Looks pretty talented.
Isaiah Washington - Next NY Great PG - Class of 2017 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCzIwEZqGsQ#ws)
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He has received offers from Providence and Minnesota, who are recruiting teammate Sid Wilson, too.
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Have seen him a bunch, even today at is8. Has major potential, but to early to tell. Curious to see how his body matured over next two years.
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@ASlater247: 4* PG Isaiah Washington of St. Ray's has Indiana interest. St. John's, Seton Hall, Minny, Rutgers, USF & Iona offers http://t.co/nkAIuDfkrU
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Under Armour Association: Breaking down NYC action
Dan McDonald | Rivals.com contributor
"New Heights point guard Isaiah Washington has the feel of a traditional New York City point guard. At 6-foot-1, he’s a tough lead guard that is relentless attacking the basket. He’s a scrappy defender and willed his team to a close win over Earl Watson Elite on Friday night. Minnesota is his only high-major offer."
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http://www.msgvarsity.com/brooklyn-bronx/new-york-city-players-to-watch-isaiah-washington-st-raymond-1.1808382
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I expect Butler to get involved heavy
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http://nypost.com/2016/08/27/why-next-great-high-school-point-guard-is-staying-in-nyc/
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He should go to Seton Hall. Would be really good there and can play right away.
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He should go to Seton Hall. Would be really good there and can play right away.
Why shouldn't he come here?
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We showed interest for a while, much like we did with Alvarado. Believe our interest has waned not because the staff doesn't like the kid but because there is no room. Right now, for 2017 we will have Simon (redshirt junior) and Lovett (RS soph) at the PG slots, plus Ponds as a sophomore and Mussini as a junior.
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let's see if Mussini sticks around for Year 3.
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let's see if Mussini sticks around for Year 3.
Exactly. Mussini has to show that he's able to play at this level. He's probably a better fit to be a pro in Italy playing in their most prestigious league. We shouldn't be passing on a legit point guard just because Mussini help us win 8 games last year.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
In that yearly international high school age game only Mussini and Artest have a connection to SJU
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You missed my point. The staff has made it a priority to pursue NY kids. My understanding is that we are not strongly pursuing Washington and/or Alvarado because the chances of them coming to St. John's with who we already have on board are slim. These kids will want to play right away. Having three players in the fold for the PG/lead guard position (Simon, Lovett and Ponds), all of whom were ranked higher than either Washington/Alvarado, is a huge deterrent. If Washington came on board (assuming as schollie were available), he'd have a redshirt junior PG/lead guard (former 5 star) transfer from a high major program, a former 4 star PG as a redshirt soph (Lovett), and a former 4 star lead guard as a true sophomore (Ponds, who I understand will ultimately get some run at the point if he develops as expected). No PG ranked in Washington's range is going to be as interested in that situation as they are in another program where they might be able to start or play significant minutes off the bat.
Mussini's presence isn't impacting a guy like Washington's decision. Simon, Lovett and Ponds most definitely are, coupled with some of the stud PG prospects (like Muhhamed) that we are making a strong push for in 2018.
Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
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You missed my point. The staff has made it a priority to pursue NY kids. My understanding is that we are not strongly pursuing Washington and/or Alvarado because the chances of them coming to St. John's with who we already have on board are slim. These kids will want to play right away. Having three players in the fold for the PG/lead guard position (Simon, Lovett and Ponds), all of whom were ranked higher than either Washington/Alvarado, is a huge deterrent. If Washington came on board (assuming as schollie were available), he'd have a redshirt junior PG/lead guard (former 5 star) transfer from a high major program, a former 4 star PG as a redshirt soph (Lovett), and a former 4 star lead guard as a true sophomore (Ponds, who I understand will ultimately get some run at the point if he develops as expected). No PG ranked in Washington's range is going to be as interested in that situation as they are in another program where they might be able to start or play significant minutes off the bat.
Mussini's presence isn't impacting a guy like Washington's decision. Simon, Lovett and Ponds most definitely are, coupled with some of the stud PG prospects (like Muhhamed) that we are making a strong push for in 2018.
Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
Posters on the boards missing the point? Say it ain't so, Joe! :)
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You missed my point. The staff has made it a priority to pursue NY kids. My understanding is that we are not strongly pursuing Washington and/or Alvarado because the chances of them coming to St. John's with who we already have on board are slim. These kids will want to play right away. Having three players in the fold for the PG/lead guard position (Simon, Lovett and Ponds), all of whom were ranked higher than either Washington/Alvarado, is a huge deterrent. If Washington came on board (assuming as schollie were available), he'd have a redshirt junior PG/lead guard (former 5 star) transfer from a high major program, a former 4 star PG as a redshirt soph (Lovett), and a former 4 star lead guard as a true sophomore (Ponds, who I understand will ultimately get some run at the point if he develops as expected). No PG ranked in Washington's range is going to be as interested in that situation as they are in another program where they might be able to start or play significant minutes off the bat.
Mussini's presence isn't impacting a guy like Washington's decision. Simon, Lovett and Ponds most definitely are, coupled with some of the stud PG prospects (like Muhhamed) that we are making a strong push for in 2018.
Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
Simon will be a redshirt soph, same as lovett.
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Thanks. Even more of a deterrent for 2017 kids.
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Good to know we are so stacked coming off a 1 win season that local stars are intimidated to come here now.
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Jury is out on whether these kids are as good as their HS rankings. Doesn't mean having highly-rated kids at the same position with several years of eligibility has no impact on recruits.
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Good to know we are so stacked coming off a 1 win season that local stars are intimidated to come here now.
Are you implying that local stars should forget that there are 3 top 50 underclass PGs on the roster?
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We're loaded at PG for the foreseeable future, you can't nab them all as much as I'd like to see Mullin develop 2017 city generals like Washington or Markquis Nowell. I'm more than comfortable with Brown/Simon/Clark adding to this core in 17'-18'. Recruiting wise I shifted my full attention towards Reid and Muhammad once we landed ZB. 2017 is closed barring something unforeseen.
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I think we can expect three current players will not be here next year >>>>Amar? Moose? Williams? That leaves two more openings.
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I think we can expect three current players will not be here next year >>>>Amar? Moose? Williams? That leaves two more openings.
Let's atleast get to the Red/White scrimmage before we predict 2017 transfers, sheesh. Enjoy the process we have a fun season ahead w the current roster.
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When is the red/white scrimmage?
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Good to know we are so stacked coming off a 1 win season that local stars are intimidated to come here now.
Fail to see your point here. Considering that the 3 guys mentioned in the post above that might deter Washington from coming here (Simon, Lovett and Ponds) were not part of that 1 win season.
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Good to know we are so stacked coming off a 1 win season that local stars are intimidated to come here now.
Are you implying that local stars should forget that there are 3 top 50 underclass PGs on the roster?
No, but none of them have played a game in college for us yet, some might say that none of them are true PGs, and based on the amount of transfers in college basketball teams change from year to year so there is no reason for a player to be scared of playing time at St. John's. I mean somehow Nova is able to fill out their roster every year.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
In that yearly international high school age game only Mussini and Artest have a connection to SJU
What do you mean?
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Good to know we are so stacked coming off a 1 win season that local stars are intimidated to come here now.
Are you implying that local stars should forget that there are 3 top 50 underclass PGs on the roster?
No, but none of them have played a game in college for us yet, some might say that none of them are true PGs, and based on the amount of transfers in college basketball teams change from year to year so there is no reason for a player to be scared of playing time at St. John's. I mean somehow Nova is able to fill out their roster every year.
No one would say Lovett is not a PG.
Seems like you're complaining for sport. We have plenty of PG depth for the first time in decades. I'd take all three of our guys over Washington.
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But it's not about filling out a roster. Lovett has never been described as anything but a PG. I don't know much about Simon, but from what I've read he is considered more of a PG or at least a "lead guard". Ponds definitely folks are mixed on but there is some chance he plays PG too. The reality of recruiting is that a top 100 kid who wants to play the point is going to be less interested in going to a program that has three of those guys at arguably the same position who will have plenty of eligibility left when the recruit steps on campus.
Good to know we are so stacked coming off a 1 win season that local stars are intimidated to come here now.
Are you implying that local stars should forget that there are 3 top 50 underclass PGs on the roster?
No, but none of them have played a game in college for us yet, some might say that none of them are true PGs, and based on the amount of transfers in college basketball teams change from year to year so there is no reason for a player to be scared of playing time at St. John's. I mean somehow Nova is able to fill out their roster every year.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
Did Max Hooper have much more? Looked like a statue on D and hes in a D league.
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He should go to Seton Hall. Would be really good there and can play right away.
Why shouldn't he come here?
To directly answer your question. Immediate playing time.
From St. John's perspective I pass on him in hopes of hitting big in 2018.
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He should go to Seton Hall. Would be really good there and can play right away.
Why shouldn't he come here?
To directly answer your question. Immediate playing time.
From St. John's perspective I pass on him in hopes of hitting big in 2018.
Thank you. Certainly makes sense.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
Did Max Hooper have much more? Looked like a statue on D and hes in a D league.
Max Hooper shot 45 percent from three, not thirty. He's also 6'6", as opposed to a 150 pound dwarf.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
Did Max Hooper have much more? Looked like a statue on D and hes in a D league.
Right, and he might be fine in the Max Hooper role. But I think that's his ceiling. Maybe a little higher if he can make a damn in-bounds pass.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
Did Max Hooper have much more? Looked like a statue on D and hes in a D league.
Max Hooper shot 45 percent from three, not thirty. He's also 6'6", as opposed to a 150 pound dwarf.
He also shot 0% from 2.
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Mussini isn't the issue. With Simon, Lovett and Ponds I don't see any top 100-150 PG signing on. The front court was the bigger need and we locked up a great talent. We are focusing big time on 2018 guards, hence the full court Muhammed press.
Mussini was a big part of the issue because he was asked to run the offense an he wasn't quick enough to do it. He isn't quick enough to play any position in D1 ball. He'll be fine as a shooter off the bench, when they zone us.
But as it relates to this kid, we want to be known for NYC point guards once again. If this kid is willing to stay in the city in the high school, there seems to be a good chance he'll want to for college as well.
You gotta stop. Mussini is definitely a D1 player. He may not be a high major starting PG, but he's a good enough shooting prospect to play for 300+ D1 programs. He could wind up falling out of the rotation here, but that doesn't mean he's not a D1 talent.
He's got D1 jumper, and an NAIA everything else.
Did Max Hooper have much more? Looked like a statue on D and hes in a D league.
Max Hooper shot 45 percent from three, not thirty. He's also 6'6", as opposed to a 150 pound dwarf.
He also shot 0% from 2.
At least he specializes in something. As opposed to nothing.
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Committed to Minnesota
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Committed to Minnesota
Trivia: Can anyone name the last St.Ray's point guard to commit to Minnesota?
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Eric Harris.
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Eric Harris.
Well shit that was fast. Correct!
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Ha! That backcourt was sick with Kareem Reid as well!
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This is good for St. John's. They'll recruit him in a year when he transfers.
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Ha! That backcourt was sick with Kareem Reid as well!
Eric Harris was never given a sniff by Mahoney. He would changed how the first three seasons went for Felipe. Kid was an underrated point guard.
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This is good for St. John's. They'll recruit him in a year when he transfers.
Dont have much faith in Richard P do you ? i dont either
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Wow. Kimani and little Rick getting the job done on this one. That is a bad loss for Seton Hall - he was their #1 priority in 2017 and to lose him to a lower level Big Ten team halfway across the country.
Committed to Minnesota
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Love this attitude:
All those ranking don't mean anything when you step on that floor because the piece of paper or that link online can't save you
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2107 NYS Mr. Basketball, Kimani was the lead recruiter, kid is a true floor general.
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
I'll disagree as I feel they are very close in game.
My point is that people here hold outsiders to a higher standard than NY'ers and I don't get it.
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
I'll disagree as I feel they are very close in game.
My point is that people here hold outsiders to a higher standard than NY'ers and I don't get it.
Similar players for sure.
I'm not sure on standard. Are we talking SJU fans? Scouts? general fans?
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
I'll disagree as I feel they are very close in game.
My point is that people here hold outsiders to a higher standard than NY'ers and I don't get it.
Similar players for sure.
I'm not sure on standard. Are we talking SJU fans? Scouts? general fans?
SJU fans.
They will put all NYC players on untouchable pedestals IMO.
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
I'll disagree as I feel they are very close in game.
My point is that people here hold outsiders to a higher standard than NY'ers and I don't get it.
Similar players for sure.
I'm not sure on standard. Are we talking SJU fans? Scouts? general fans?
SJU fans.
They will put all NYC players on untouchable pedestals IMO.
Those are probably the same folks who want or feel there should be a mainly a team full of New Yorker's.
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
I'll disagree as I feel they are very close in game.
My point is that people here hold outsiders to a higher standard than NY'ers and I don't get it.
Similar players for sure.
I'm not sure on standard. Are we talking SJU fans? Scouts? general fans?
SJU fans.
They will put all NYC players on untouchable pedestals IMO.
I would have loved for him to come here but I thought there were better opportunities for him. Butler showed interest but I don't think they felt confident in being able to land him and I really thought he was gonna go to Seton Hall which would have fit his style really well.
Minnesota swept in. Kimani going back to his New Heights roots.
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
I'll disagree as I feel they are very close in game.
My point is that people here hold outsiders to a higher standard than NY'ers and I don't get it.
Similar players for sure.
I'm not sure on standard. Are we talking SJU fans? Scouts? general fans?
SJU fans.
They will put all NYC players on untouchable pedestals IMO.
Those are probably the same folks who want or feel there should be a mainly a team full of New Yorker's.
Exactly
Thank you
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He's just as flashy as Lovett and some fans can't stand Lovett for that.
Genuinely curious if being from outside of NY makes fans a harsher judge on players. But then if they are from NY they get more pass
Lovett more dynamic, better athlete. Washington much better feel for game.
I'll disagree as I feel they are very close in game.
My point is that people here hold outsiders to a higher standard than NY'ers and I don't get it.
Similar players for sure.
I'm not sure on standard. Are we talking SJU fans? Scouts? general fans?
SJU fans.
They will put all NYC players on untouchable pedestals IMO.
Those are probably the same folks who want or feel there should be a mainly a team full of New Yorker's.
Exactly
Thank you
My thought is to land the NYC kids you gotta land and complete your team from wherever.
Times are different than they were in the 80's. Young kids see the whole country these days on the AAU circuit.
Kids want to leave NYC and kids want to come to NYC.
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Agree. Love having good city kids who want to stay home, but talented players from elsewhere are fine in my book too. Best thing that Lavin did IMO was show that St Johns can get really good players from outside the metro area.
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Agree. Love having good city kids who want to stay home, but talented players from elsewhere are fine in my book too. Best thing that Lavin did IMO was show that St Johns can get really good players from outside the metro area.
Only issue was he ignored NYC which gave people reason to criticize (with exception of Mo)
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Good chance this kid leaves Minnesota
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Good chance this kid leaves Minnesota
This is where the immediate transfer rule can benefit SJU. Knowing it's not happening yet but kids coming home after leaving to not good results. They can make a killing off of kids with a chip on their shoulder coming home.
But I think he's part of that Sidney Wilson jellyfam stuff so likely not high in SJU
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Good chance this kid leaves Minnesota
This is where the immediate transfer rule can benefit SJU. Knowing it's not happening yet but kids coming home after leaving to not good results. They can make a killing off of kids with a chip on their shoulder coming home.
But I think he's part of that Sidney Wilson jellyfam stuff so likely not high in SJU
Think Baldi thinking of his Iona squad.
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Good chance this kid leaves Minnesota
This is where the immediate transfer rule can benefit SJU. Knowing it's not happening yet but kids coming home after leaving to not good results. They can make a killing off of kids with a chip on their shoulder coming home.
But I think he's part of that Sidney Wilson jellyfam stuff so likely not high in SJU
Think Baldi thinking of his Iona squad.
St Johns needs a PG
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Would like him at sju. Reminds me of Jordan Theodore. Don’t let the hall get another one.
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Good chance this kid leaves Minnesota
This is where the immediate transfer rule can benefit SJU. Knowing it's not happening yet but kids coming home after leaving to not good results. They can make a killing off of kids with a chip on their shoulder coming home.
But I think he's part of that Sidney Wilson jellyfam stuff so likely not high in SJU
Think Baldi thinking of his Iona squad.
St Johns needs a PG
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4070682/mikey-dixon
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277967/isaiah-washington
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Would like him at sju. Reminds me of Jordan Theodore. Don’t let the hall get another one.
I'd like him too, but we need a true PG for NEXT year. This team needs structure. Dixon, Ponds, and Simon worry me. Even if it's just 15 mpg, we need guys to have roles when things start to fall apart. I think that's why so many people like Trimble. He's the only guy on the team that has one position and one role. We need the PG version of him.
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We also need to make sure that the staff wants and knows how to utilize a true PG. The current system that Mullin runs seems to put too much of an emphasis on the positionless crap. I agree they need a real PG and real defined roles in some respects. I haven't seen any system on the court though that would support this.
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
Share a ride with the guy who wants drive out to pick up Norm.
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
Share a ride with the guy who wants drive out to pick up Norm.
Along with Baldi the 3 of them can pick up Norm and and Washington on their way back to New York...
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Yea i have no clue what this jelly fam stuff is except that they were crushing it on the Hall board when Jordan Walker was halfway out the door
The Hall was on Isiah big time only to lose out to Minny
Good chance this kid leaves Minnesota
This is where the immediate transfer rule can benefit SJU. Knowing it's not happening yet but kids coming home after leaving to not good results. They can make a killing off of kids with a chip on their shoulder coming home.
But I think he's part of that Sidney Wilson jellyfam stuff so likely not high in SJU
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
Share a ride with the guy who wants drive out to pick up Norm.
this literally made me crack up. lol
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This is good for St. John's. They'll recruit him in a year when he transfers.
This was too obvious
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
Share a ride with the guy who wants drive out to pick up Norm.
this literally made me crack up. lol
+1
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
Share a ride with the guy who wants drive out to pick up Norm.
Along with Baldi the 3 of them can pick up Norm and and Washington on their way back to New York...
So you think St. John's will land a better player than Washington?
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
Share a ride with the guy who wants drive out to pick up Norm.
Along with Baldi the 3 of them can pick up Norm and and Washington on their way back to New York...
So you think St. John's will land a better player than Washington?
I don't even know what that means? Do you think the sun will come out today?
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This is shocking, I would walk to Minneapolis to get him here.
Share a ride with the guy who wants drive out to pick up Norm.
Along with Baldi the 3 of them can pick up Norm and and Washington on their way back to New York...
So you think St. John's will land a better player than Washington?
I don't even know what that means? Do you think the sun will come out today?
Today , no? Lee Goldberg called for rain all day.
So do you think St. John's can land a better player than Washington?
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His transfer watch begins in maybe two days. Minnesota's 15-16 (4-14) in a monstrously disappointing season. Hopefully they lose this week and he stays in NY for the rest of his college career.
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His transfer watch begins in maybe two days. Minnesota's 15-16 (4-14) in a monstrously disappointing season. Hopefully they lose this week and he stays in NY for the rest of his college career.
Is there any substance to this or are people just throwing stuff at the wall because he's from NY and Minn stinks? Would love Washington and Matt is obviously a guru in the transfer market.
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His transfer watch begins in maybe two days. Minnesota's 15-16 (4-14) in a monstrously disappointing season. Hopefully they lose this week and he stays in NY for the rest of his college career.
Is there any substance to this or are people just throwing stuff at the wall because he's from NY and Minn stinks? Would love Washington and Matt is obviously a guru in the transfer market.
The wall
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His transfer watch begins in maybe two days. Minnesota's 15-16 (4-14) in a monstrously disappointing season. Hopefully they lose this week and he stays in NY for the rest of his college career.
Is there any substance to this or are people just throwing stuff at the wall because he's from NY and Minn stinks? Would love Washington and Matt is obviously a guru in the transfer market.
The wall
😥 party pooper
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One can wish, no? Lmao.
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With all the dirty games being played becoming public knowledge in college basketball it really does seem that our inability to keep local talent to come to SJU has a lot more to do with us not "playing ball". Great recruiters/coaches can overcome some of that, but not all. Why go to Minn? What have they done? Slick Ricky Jr.
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With all the dirty games being played becoming public knowledge in college basketball it really does seem that our inability to keep local talent to come to SJU has a lot more to do with us not "playing ball". Great recruiters/coaches can overcome some of that, but not all. Why go to Minn? What have they done? Slick Ricky Jr.
Way off base here...
Washington went to UM because of Kimani...
Minnesota was a Top 20 team headed into the season and was 13 - 5 when Reggie Lynch got suspended, things went downhill quickly from there...
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This is good for St. John's. They'll recruit him in a year when he transfers.
First step is done: He is transferring.
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He needs to go down a level. His offensive numbers at Minnesota were atrocious
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He needs to go down a level. His offensive numbers at Minnesota were atrocious
He will be going down a level if he comes here. The BE is not the Big 10.
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He will be going down a level if he comes here. The BE is not the Big 10.
Before this season, the Big East has been a better conference than the B10 in every season since the realignment. Oops
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Before this season, the Big East has been a better conference than the B10 in every season since the realignment. Oops
Yeah, that’s over now.
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lol wish I put money on this one. Could see Seton Hall being a real destination for him.
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lol wish I put money on this one. Could see Seton Hall being a real destination for him.
Think we’ll be involved? He hasn’t been great in school but I think the upside is still there.
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Think we’ll be involved? He hasn’t been great in school but I think the upside is still there.
We probably would have been, but right now there is no one doing any recruiting for St. John's. As bad as that sounds, it's the truth.