Nahziah Carter, SF, Rochester, NY

Quote from: Tiger on May 04, 2017, 06:20:17 AM

There is something definitely weird with our recruiting.  There must be something other coaches are pointing out to the recruits that express interest in us, that instantly gets them to drop SJU.  It is amazing.   Got to find out what it is, and fix it.

Not sure if our staff is liked in the college basketball world

Quote from: Marco Baldi on May 04, 2017, 07:29:01 AM

Quote from: Tiger on May 04, 2017, 06:20:17 AM

There is something definitely weird with our recruiting.  There must be something other coaches are pointing out to the recruits that express interest in us, that instantly gets them to drop SJU.  It is amazing.   Got to find out what it is, and fix it.

Not sure if our staff is liked in the college basketball world

Because ... ?

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

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Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:25:11 AM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on May 04, 2017, 07:29:01 AM

Quote from: Tiger on May 04, 2017, 06:20:17 AM

There is something definitely weird with our recruiting.  There must be something other coaches are pointing out to the recruits that express interest in us, that instantly gets them to drop SJU.  It is amazing.   Got to find out what it is, and fix it.

Not sure if our staff is liked in the college basketball world

Because ... ?

Word is out on the way Slice was treated. He is well liked

Quote from: Marco Baldi on May 04, 2017, 09:28:59 AM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:25:11 AM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on May 04, 2017, 07:29:01 AM

Quote from: Tiger on May 04, 2017, 06:20:17 AM

There is something definitely weird with our recruiting.  There must be something other coaches are pointing out to the recruits that express interest in us, that instantly gets them to drop SJU.  It is amazing.   Got to find out what it is, and fix it.

Not sure if our staff is liked in the college basketball world

Because ... ?

Word is out on the way Slice was treated. He is well liked

By admin, CM ? Why pay the guy so much money if you don't know what you are doing. And while he certainly doesn't need the money right now, I don't hear his name bandyed about for any positions. If he's so well liked, then where are the offers ?

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

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Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Isn't that something that would come up early on in the discussion, and not get down to a last minute decision. We should have had ( possibly still do ) backup for this situation. Again it just seems unbelievable that we can't lock up 1 big kid.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

It's pretty simple.
Who is the most vocal member of the staff?
He tells all those who are willing to listen.  Word then spreads.

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Isn't that something that would come up early on in the discussion, and not get down to a last minute decision. We should have had ( possibly still do ) backup for this situation. Again it just seems unbelievable that we can't lock up 1 big kid.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Isn't that something that would come up pretty early

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, apparently Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 11:21:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Isn't that something that would come up early on in the discussion, and not get down to a last minute decision. We should have had ( possibly still do ) backup for this situation. Again it just seems unbelievable that we can't lock up 1 big kid.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Isn't that something that would come up pretty early

Not necessarily.

Quote from: mjdinkins on May 04, 2017, 12:05:58 PM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 11:21:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Isn't that something that would come up pretty early

Not necessarily.

I would think a teams plan for any recruit and how well that plan meets the kids needs, should be first or dam near first for both parties to discuss. It's not as if we signed someone after the time we first spoke to Kante  to compete against him.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 01:42:18 PM

Quote from: mjdinkins on May 04, 2017, 12:05:58 PM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 11:21:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Isn't that something that would come up pretty early

Not necessarily.

I would think a teams plan for any recruit and how well that plan meets the kids needs, should be first or dam near first for both parties to discuss. It's not as if we signed someone after the time we first spoke to Kante  to compete against him.

Sometimes, things doesn't come into play until a player has an unofficial or official visit.  Maybe, Kante and his camp didn't start their proposal(s) 'til their official visit or afterwards.

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, apparently Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

With all due respect to Kante, we need 4 star recruits willing to wait their turn more than 2 star who want to play right away. I'm glad we're honest with kids on how much playing time to expect.

Quote from: mjdinkins on May 04, 2017, 12:05:58 PM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 11:21:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

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Someone please call Mullin on his cell because Derk needs answers.
No he demands answers. And if this is not addressed tooth sweet, heads will roll.

Go get em Derk!

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Quote from: paultzman on May 04, 2017, 11:09:40 AM

Isn't that something that would come up early on in the discussion, and not get down to a last minute decision. We should have had ( possibly still do ) backup for this situation. Again it just seems unbelievable that we can't lock up 1 big kid.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:35:15 AM

Quote from: paultzman on May 03, 2017, 12:18:10 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 03, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

In bold too...

Zach B
"Sounds like you can cross him off list for #sjubb"

So can someone get to ZB and find out what's the deal. After all,  it was he who spoke so confidently about Kante to us. Somehow we 've got to get to the bottom of these unexpected last minute turnarounds. Add Kante to the list of Briscoe, Whitehead, Heron, and probably Muhammad. I understand the reasoning for some of these but it seems like this happens more often to us then other similar schools. There's more going on then meets the eye.

Fwiw, party line is Kante camp wanted commitment for more minutes out of gate than SJU was willing to accommodate. Just sharing feedback from local scribe, who  is close to Moose's favorite coach.

Isn't that something that would come up pretty early

Not necessarily.

I would think a teams plan for any recruit and how well that plan meets the kids needs, should be first or dam near first for both parties to discuss. It's not as if we signed someone after the time we first spoke to Kante  to compete against him.

Quote from: derk on May 04, 2017, 09:25:11 AM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on May 04, 2017, 07:29:01 AM

Quote from: Tiger on May 04, 2017, 06:20:17 AM

There is something definitely weird with our recruiting.  There must be something other coaches are pointing out to the recruits that express interest in us, that instantly gets them to drop SJU.  It is amazing.   Got to find out what it is, and fix it.

Not sure if our staff is liked in the college basketball world

Because ... ?

Word is out on the way Slice was treated. He is well liked

Seriously who cares if other college bball staffs don't like ours.  Cooley and Providence didn't like Lavin & Co. because we got Sampson, Obekpa and Orlando.  Getting quality players and winning games is all I care about.  Not many like Cal because he crushes everyone in the recruiting wars.  Did you see the 30 for 30 on him?

Quote from: Tiger on May 04, 2017, 06:20:17 AM

There is something definitely weird with our recruiting.  There must be something other coaches are pointing out to the recruits that express interest in us, that instantly gets them to drop SJU.  It is amazing.   Got to find out what it is, and fix it.

Not sure if our staff is liked in the college basketball world