6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2018 Class => Topic started by: fordham96 on April 16, 2016, 10:42:59 PM
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Evidently SJU is the latest the offer this stud.
On the recruiting front, Brown listed offers from California, UCLA, Arizona and Kansas and said that St. John's was the most recent school to offer. He took multiple visits to Cal during his sophomore year and said that the Golden Bears have recruited him the hardest thus far.
https://basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/adidas-gauntlet-five-star-brown-shows-out
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Couple of days ago interview with Krysten Peek of Rivals and talks about recent offers including SJU and what he likes about them:
https://basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/usa-basketball-five-star-jordan-brown-on-the-rise
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Per Zack since June 15 he has heard from Arizona, SJU and Cal
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Per Zack since June 15 he has heard from Arizona, SJU and Cal
it is Zach with an h and he re-tweeted Andrew Slater's information. In other words Zach B did not "say" anything.
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At least I try to quote somebody not like you where you make everybody think you have some inside information from somebody inside the program.
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At least I try to quote somebody not like you where you make everybody think you have some inside information from somebody inside the program.
Right keep telling yourself that.
After you repeat it 10 times it becomes fact, before that it is just fiction. But I certainly like how you "try."
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Yeah I am sure Chris has you on speed dial and maybe Louie to.
Just for your information I was personal friend with the most under rated recruiter of all time at SJU Ronnie Rutledge.
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Yeah I am sure Chris has you on speed dial and maybe Louie to.
Just for your information I was personal friend with the most under rated recruiter of all time at SJU Ronnie Rutledge.
Lucky guy. He and I were only impersonal friends.
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Per Andy Slater Mullin, St Jean and Mitch in Cali to see Brown.
Btw with Mitch on the road does this mean he is now officially the 3rd assistant?
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Per Andy Slater Mullin, St Jean and Mitch in Cali to see Brown.
Btw with Mitch on the road does this mean he is now officially the 3rd assistant?
Don't think so. When you are down a recruiting assistant you can designate a temporary replacement. Besides when have you known St. John's to be less than forthcoming?
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Per Andy Slater Mullin, St Jean and Mitch in Cali to see Brown.
Btw with Mitch on the road does this mean he is now officially the 3rd assistant?
Don't think so. When you are down a recruiting assistant you can designate a temporary replacement. Besides when have you known St. John's to be less than forthcoming?
I know that but were 3 weeks into September and Richmond has been rumored for months to be the replacement I don't think this is a coincidence.
Remember Matic was the 3rd assistant on the road in July, but now it is the guy rumored to be in line for the job.
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Per Andy Slater Mullin, St Jean and Mitch in Cali to see Brown.
Btw with Mitch on the road does this mean he is now officially the 3rd assistant?
Don't think so. When you are down a recruiting assistant you can designate a temporary replacement. Besides when have you known St. John's to be less than forthcoming?
Just the other day I reard a man say Mission Bell wine is just fine
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Brown (Zach), Brown (Moses) and Brown (Jordan).
Nice law firm.
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Still listing SJU as one of the schools coming hardest. In fact lists them first.
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1787937-top-15-2018-pf-jordan-brown-remains-open
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http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/203677/jordan-brown
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From the article:
While the five-star prospect’s recruitment remains extremely open, Dion said there are several programs which have been in constant contact.
“Not in any order but I would say St. John's, Oregon, Kansas, Arizona, UCLA, Cal, Nevada and Gonzaga have been most involved,” Brown said.
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From the article:
While the five-star prospect’s recruitment remains extremely open, Dion said there are several programs which have been in constant contact.
“Not in any order but I would say St. John's, Oregon, Kansas, Arizona, UCLA, Cal, Nevada and Gonzaga have been most involved,” Brown said.
Seems like an extremely tough get being a 5 star kid from out west but hey he mentioned us which is always good
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The staff must feel they have a legit shot with Brown.
Adam ZagoriaVerified account
@AdamZagoria
.@StJohnsBBall now going 3 deep for 2018 California PF Jordan Brown
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For the life of me, I can't figure out why Jordan Brown doesn't get talked about a bit more. He's big, he's athletic, he has some nice skill and he's usually pretty productive. On Thursday, he went for 33 points and 17 rebounds against LaMelo Ball (38 points, 10 rebounds, nine assists) and the Big Ballers in a high scoring loss by his Play Hard Play Smart Squad.
Maybe I'm just on an island, but Brown continues to look to me like a potentially big-time player at the college level and beyond.
Brown and his family have kept the recruiting process mostly quiet, but California is working hard to keep him close to home, Gonzaga is trying to make a run, St. John's is watching very closely and many others like Arizona, UCLA, Oregon and Nevada have some involvement.
Perhaps the buzz on Brown will pickup throughout the week, perhaps it won't. Either way, he's not the forgotten man in 2018 to those paying attention.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/bossi-s-takeaways-thursday-in-vegas
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/08/06/st-johns-working-hardest-2018-forward-jordan-brown/
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Wow...very encouraging
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/08/06/st-johns-working-hardest-2018-forward-jordan-brown/
Brown Bros 2018, Moses and Jordan????
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Wow...very encouraging
+1
We have his dad's attention. To add, his dad being a former NBA player (although, it was a cup of coffee), he may feel comfortable putting his son in the hands of Mullin and Richmond.
I can't overstate how critical this upcoming season is for the program. I'm not sure how much our season will play a role for most of the '18 class, as many of the kids will have already committed by the start of the college hoops season. But, still an extremely, pivotal season, nonetheless.
The only thing about a kid like Brown, who has had an unusual recruitment for a top 10 talent, is if he waits 'til the late signing period, then it'll allow for the Duke's, Kentucky's, and Kansas' to potentially join the fray. So, we may have to hope for a November or sooner commitment.
Regardless, I like that he plans to visit the Johnnies and we're in the thick of things.
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Very encouraging. He sounds very open to the east coast. Mully and Mitch can easily help with that transition.
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Doesn't seem like the kind of recruit (5 star guy from the west coast) we would ever land. That article seems encouraging, but do we really have a legit shot at this kid?
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This is pretty wild. Seems to me like this kid was in the bag for Cal until Cuonzo left but they are very much in the mix still. Kind of crazy to me that a kid this highly ranked isn't being more heavily pursued by some of the blue bloods or even Arizona since there appears to be blood in the water.
Starting to feel like the 2018 class is going to set the tone for this program for the next 5 or so years. We are in the mix with some real bigtime prospects and if we can land 2 of them plus Luther M that is a huge class that should put us in position to continue to lure top talent to campus.
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To daydream for a moment, imagine a Moses and Jordan Brown, Luther and Nas 2018 class.
Looks like the imbedded roots that CM, Mitch and Greg respectively have in Northern California are paying dividends.
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http://247sports.com/Article/Checking-In-With-Five-Star-Jordan-Brown18-Roseville-Oregon-Calif-106259702
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To daydream for a moment, imagine a Moses and Jordan Brown, Luther and Nas 2018 class.
Looks like the imbedded roots that CM, Mitch and Greg respectively have in Northern California are paying dividends.
Dividends would be should they sign.
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I think he was on my flight to LAX Thursday from minny.
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We're one of seven finalists for Brown, per Rivals....
Five-star big man Jordan Brown is down to a final group of seven and will transfer for his senior year.
Brown's father Dion confirmed to Rivals.com that the 6-foot-10 and fluid power forward with skill from the Sacramento area is down to a final seven consisting of California, Gonzaga, Louisiana Lafayette (where Dion Brown played), Nevada, Oregon, St. John's and UCLA.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/five-star-jordan-brown-down-to-seven
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Great news, this kid has real potential. Let's hope that he visits the team while they're playing in LA and makes a official visit sometime during this season.
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Great news, this kid has real potential. Let's hope that he visits the team while they're playing in LA and makes a official visit sometime during this season.
Let's hope he loves the east coast
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Great news, this kid has real potential. Let's hope that he visits the team while they're playing in LA and makes a official visit sometime during this season.
Let's hope he loves the east coast
If he does then we're a lock
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If he loves the East Coast, why r we the only East Coast team on his list?
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If he loves the East Coast, why r we the only East Coast team on his list?
No one said he loves the east coast
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If he loves the East Coast, why r we the only East Coast team on his list?
No one said he loves the east coast
Who's on first? ::)
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Circle jerk
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Best shot for a big is Josh Roberts it seems.
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Best shot for a big is Josh Roberts it seems.
Looking like this supposed super '18 class isn't gonna be so super after all
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Best shot for a big is Josh Roberts it seems.
Looking like this supposed super '18 class isn't gonna be so super after all
Who could have seen that coming?
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You guys are totally right. Why don't you find a team to root for until we're in the tournament again. You'll be happy and we won't have to listen to your bull shit.
Maybe a non elite team like Gonzaga. They would be perfect. You can tell everyone how you accepted there recruiting process and that's why they are succesful
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You guys are totally right. Why don't you find a team to root for until we're in the tournament again. You'll be happy and we won't have to listen to your bull shit.
Maybe a non elite team like Gonzaga. They would be perfect. You can tell everyone how you accepted there recruiting process and that's why they are succesful
Do you mean accept that St Johns is a mid major?
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You guys are totally right. Why don't you find a team to root for until we're in the tournament again. You'll be happy and we won't have to listen to your bull shit.
Maybe a non elite team like Gonzaga. They would be perfect. You can tell everyone how you accepted there recruiting process and that's why they are succesful
The frustration comes from the fact that for the last few years we were looking at the 2018 class as being our big one. At various points in time we were mentioned to be seriously in the mix for program changing players like Bol Bol, Naz Reid, and Nas Little. We were also supposedly in the thick of it with other program changing players like Moses Brown, Jordan Brown, and Luguentz Dort.
Obviously we would not have landed more than 1 or 2 of those guys but now it's looking almost certain we will get 0 of them and the class will end up being just Luther M (who we are not a lock to get and is a good player but not a program changing one by any stretch) and Josh Roberts who probably won't be a real contributor until his junior season, and is also not a lock to come here.
Of course we will be in the mix with transfers and grad transfers but those are tough to count on because A) you're not sure who will transfer until March and B) all non-grad transfers can't contribute until their 2nd year on campus.
Add all of this to fact that it is appearing more unlikely that we won't be hiring Mike Rice and this spring and summer has gone pretty poorly since the day after Sid Wilson committed.
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This is why I'd rather see us spend disproportionate effort on "mid-high" 3 star and "low" 4-stars to possibly increase our odds of not getting pushed aside by the top schools in the end. Then, use the transfer route to pick up non-satisfied guys
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We don't need a monster 18 class. Ponds Simon Wilson Lovett Clark Yakwe Owens are certifiable high major talents and we have Keita and Dixon on layaway. I'm sure we will pick up 1-2 4* guys either out of high school or by way of transfer. The roster is talented and balanced. For the first time ever I'm not worried about recruiting. We need to perform on the court to take the next step.
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This is why I'd rather see us spend disproportionate effort on "mid-high" 3 star and "low" 4-stars to possibly increase our odds of not getting pushed aside by the top schools in the end. Then, use the transfer route to pick up non-satisfied guys
That's basically what this 18 class is going to end up being if it ends up as Diakite, Luther and Roberts
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summer has gone pretty poorly since the day after Sid Wilson committed.
Good point, we haven't had a four star recruit commit since the end of May and its almost September.
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summer has gone pretty poorly since the day after Sid Wilson committed.
Good point, we haven't had a four star recruit commit since the end of May and its almost September.
The point is that we were in the mix with five or six 5 star or high 4 star players in the 18 class and we are either completely out of it or extreme long shots now. And one of our primary needs this offseason was to pick up an experienced college coach that could help with Xs and Os as well as recruiting. it looked like we had that guy in Mike Rice but that appears to not be happening anymore
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You guys are totally right. Why don't you find a team to root for until we're in the tournament again. You'll be happy and we won't have to listen to your bull shit.
Maybe a non elite team like Gonzaga. They would be perfect. You can tell everyone how you accepted there recruiting process and that's why they are succesful
I would of said Iona if I meant low major. We are aspiring to high major. After all "we are St John's" who's crap is Ionas feast.
Do you mean accept that St Johns is a mid major?
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Aspiring. Lol. Hahha. lmFAO
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Jordan's father breaks down all 7 finalists. Not visits set yet, probably won't sign until Spring:
St. John's: “They've been there. They have Chris Mullin and Mitch Richmond, who in this area are a big deal, and they come 3,000 miles away to see him. Others have done the same but haven't traveled 3,000 miles to do it. They let me know daily how interested they are. They know how good Jordan is going to be.”
At this point, no visits have been set up.
“Nothing yet,” said Dion. “We talk to people and we'll do visits with not the whole seven but some of them. Nothing has been set up because we've been focused on high school and kind of pushed college back for a minute.”
The most likely decision date for Brown won’t come until the spring signing period.
“The one thing I want to do is watch the schools play,” said Dion. “Sometimes it can benefit to wait. It won't be a super early thing because we're still looking at everybody.
“I would say the earliest would be early December but I'm thinking early spring. We want to watch everybody in numerous games.”
http://www.scout.com/Article/Breaking-down-five-star-2018-Prolific-Prep-PF-Jordan-Browns-fina-106479491
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Jordan's father breaks down all 7 finalists. Not visits set yet, probably won't sign until Spring:
St. John's: “They've been there. They have Chris Mullin and Mitch Richmond, who in this area are a big deal, and they come 3,000 miles away to see him. Others have done the same but haven't traveled 3,000 miles to do it. They let me know daily how interested they are. They know how good Jordan is going to be.”
At this point, no visits have been set up.
“Nothing yet,” said Dion. “We talk to people and we'll do visits with not the whole seven but some of them. Nothing has been set up because we've been focused on high school and kind of pushed college back for a minute.”
The most likely decision date for Brown won’t come until the spring signing period.
“The one thing I want to do is watch the schools play,” said Dion. “Sometimes it can benefit to wait. It won't be a super early thing because we're still looking at everybody.
“I would say the earliest would be early December but I'm thinking early spring. We want to watch everybody in numerous games.”
http://www.scout.com/Article/Breaking-down-five-star-2018-Prolific-Prep-PF-Jordan-Browns-fina-106479491
Significant on court improvement will be paramount if we want any chance with this caliber of recruit.
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Not a Lavar Ball, and nice to see a dad looking out for kid, but reading this guy's quotes, you'd think he is being recruited vs. son and living vicariously through him.
all the quotes in article are "I" or "We"
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You guys are totally right. Why don't you find a team to root for until we're in the tournament again. You'll be happy and we won't have to listen to your bull shit.
Maybe a non elite team like Gonzaga. They would be perfect. You can tell everyone how you accepted there recruiting process and that's why they are succesful
Oh shut up.
My only point was people were hyping up this 2018 class as if we were actually in the thick of it with Nas Little, Moses Brown, Naz Reid, and Luther Muhammad. There is now a good chance we miss out on ALL of them. I was pointing out that as a decade long follower of the program, that was very predictable to me.
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We don't need a monster 18 class. Ponds Simon Wilson Lovett Clark Yakwe Owens are certifiable high major talents and we have Keita and Dixon on layaway. I'm sure we will pick up 1-2 4* guys either out of high school or by way of transfer. The roster is talented and balanced. For the first time ever I'm not worried about recruiting. We need to perform on the court to take the next step.
We may not need a monster class, but we need a plan if one or both of Ponds and LoVett departs. I don't mind picking up a couple of sit-out tranfers here and there, but I hope that doesn't become our 'go-to-way' of recruiting, once we've struck out on our targets.
I will say, we have an entire season to play and we could find ourselves in a position to land a player or more in the recruiting game, in case they renege based on a coach departing from the school where they've given their pledge. But, currently our '18 class has the look of being quite marginal. Once again, we have time to change that particular outlook.
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Final 7: SJU, Gonzaga, UCLA, Oregon, Cal, Nevada, Louisiana-Lafeyette
https://twitter.com/JIBrown21/status/903026422465282049
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This is why I'd rather see us spend disproportionate effort on "mid-high" 3 star and "low" 4-stars to possibly increase our odds of not getting pushed aside by the top schools in the end. Then, use the transfer route to pick up non-satisfied guys
Completely agree with you here, RedStormNC. I'm all for staying involved with Jordan Brown at this point, but let's be honest. He's not coming to St. John's. How many times have we seen this story play out?
Unless the on court product changes, 5 star recruits aren't coming to SJU. I don't care how much the parents may like Mullin or Richmond or Matt A or GSJ. When (a) your facilities are below average (b) you don't have a national brand (c) and you don't make postseason play or graduate kids to the pros, none of these kids are going to take a chance on you. You have to target the "good but not great" HS talents and be really aggressive in the transfer game and hope that combination will bring some level of consistency to your program. And, most importantly, you have to be able to coach those kids up and get the max out of them, so that yes maybe a couple of them do go on and play pro basketball. Until that time comes, I really do think it's a waste of time speculating that these kids are coming here.
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I've argued on Redmen.com that going af ter the 5 stars at this point in time is pie in the sky. I also agree a lot of time and money has been wasted. I think he 4 star player and 3 star w high ceiling , like Roberts is who we should be targeting.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/909087755287773184
In to see him this weekend.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/909129414784503808
Chris headed out next week.
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https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/909205434891948032
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As, was mentioned yesterday.....
Adam ZagoriaVerified account
@AdamZagoria
Chris Mullin and Greg St. Jean of @StJohnsBBall
will see 2018 F Jordan Brown today at @ProlificPrep
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Bringing the Cali guy, I like it.
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Jeff Borzello -
UCLA's Steve Alford and an assistant will go to see both Jordan Brown (No. 30 in ESPN 100) and Bryan Penn-Johnson (No. 86) on Thursday.
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Evan Daniels
Five-star PF Jordan Brown (https://www.scout.com/Player/Jordan-Brown-83938 …) scheduled an official visit to St. John's for the weekend of October 14th, per a source.
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Evan Daniels
Five-star PF Jordan Brown (https://www.scout.com/Player/Jordan-Brown-83938 …) scheduled an official visit to St. John's for the weekend of October 14th, per a source.
That's midnight madness, wow. Not going to get my hopes up but that's big news. Good job getting him out for this event.
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Why are we even bothering recruiting this guy if we basically have no shot, as many insiders on this site have pointed out?
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Why are we even bothering recruiting this guy if we basically have no shot, as many insiders on this site have pointed out?
That's an interesting question, I guess the coaching staff doesn't take its cues or information from message boards.
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Why are we even bothering recruiting this guy if we basically have no shot, as many insiders on this site have pointed out?
That's an interesting question, I guess the coaching staff doesn't take its cues or information from message boards.
Very good point lol. They wouldn't be visiting him and he wouldn't be coming out here if there was no interest. Are we at the top of list? Now that's the question.
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Why are we even bothering recruiting this guy if we basically have no shot, as many insiders on this site have pointed out?
That's an interesting question, I guess the coaching staff doesn't take its cues or information from message boards.
Very good point lol. They wouldn't be visiting him and he wouldn't be coming out here if there was no interest. Are we at the top of list? Now that's the question.
Being mentioned as a suitor of top recruits is an important thing. If you want to bang Scarlett Johansson it helps your cause that you have been seen in the company of Mila Kunis and Kate Upton. Whereas if you're hanging around with Joy Behar and Rosie O'Donnell, not so much.
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Why are we even bothering recruiting this guy if we basically have no shot, as many insiders on this site have pointed out?
That's an interesting question, I guess the coaching staff doesn't take its cues or information from message boards.
Very good point lol. They wouldn't be visiting him and he wouldn't be coming out here if there was no interest. Are we at the top of list? Now that's the question.
Being mentioned as a suitor of top recruits is an important thing. If you want to bang Scarlett Johansson it helps your cause that you have been seen in the company of Mila Kunis and Kate Upton. Whereas if you're hanging around with Joy Behar and Rosie O'Donnell, not so much.
Belly Laugh!
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Why are we even bothering recruiting this guy if we basically have no shot, as many insiders on this site have pointed out?
there are no "insiders" on this site.
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Why are we even bothering recruiting this guy if we basically have no shot, as many insiders on this site have pointed out?
there are no "insiders" on this site.
+1
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@JoshGershon Jordan Brown, Top 20 2018 Napa (Calif.) Prolific Prep PF, sets second official visit: https://scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Jordan-Brown-Top-20-2018-PF-sets-second-official-visit-108631435/ …
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/917169839868973056
UCLA will be weekend of 10/20.
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Greg is recruiting Jordan.
West coast schools still involved appear to be favorites.
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The article Zags published had some very nice words about the staff from Jordans father I believe. Looks like he at least has an open mind and likes the staff.
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/usa-bball-two-visits-set-for-five-star-jordan-brown
Talks about upcoming visits to SJU and UCLA and is still looking to wait til Spring for decision.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Jordan Brown's father, Dion, tells me their @StJohnsBBall visit is 'great' and they're headed to check out Madison Square Garden
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/920032363010252801
Adam ZagoriaVerified account @AdamZagoria
Jordan Brown's dad told me the @StJohnsBBall visit was 'great' & Chris Mullin made them feel 'very comfortable'
UCLA up next.
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https://stjohns.rivals.com/news/jordan-brown-recaps-sju-visit-talks-mullin-decision-timeline
Some nice quotes on SJU and Staff.
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https://stjohns.rivals.com/news/jordan-brown-recaps-sju-visit-talks-mullin-decision-timeline
Some nice quotes on SJU and Staff.
Always a bridesmaid...
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/10/17/jordan-brown-visits-st-johns-ucla-next/
And Zags...
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Gonzaga just landed a very highly regarded foreign big man in their 2018 class. Not sure how this impacts Brown. Although my guess is UCLA and Cal are probably the main players.
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Per Zach B
St John’s assistant Greg St Jean will see five star Jordan Brown tomorrow. #sjubb
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Per Zach B
St John’s assistant Greg St Jean will see five star Jordan Brown tomorrow. #sjubb
I know most have said it is unlikely we land Jordan but man we have been all over this kid of late. Hoping him and his family consider us seriously.
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Gonzaga just landed a very highly regarded foreign big man in their 2018 class. Not sure how this impacts Brown. Although my guess is UCLA and Cal are probably the main players.
Yeah, I wonder what the scenario would have to be for a Cali kid to not want to go to UCLA or Cal?
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Maybe he wants to see other parts of the country. Not everyone from California wants to stay there and play.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/10/25/jordan-brown-completes-visit-ucla/
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Maybe he wants to see other parts of the country. Not everyone from California wants to stay there and play.
That could absolutely be the case, but I imagine it being like a kid from Indiana getting an IU offer or a kid in NC getting an offer from UNC.
Anyways... he would be a great get.
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Per Rivals....
Contenders: California, Gonzaga, Louisiana-Lafayette, Nevada, Oregon, St. John’s and UCLA.
Favorite: California.
Chances of signing early: 15%.
Brown has said this fall that he’s in no hurry to sign and the way his recruitment has unfolded, it would be a surprise to see him make an early commitment. He’s taken visits to UCLA and St. John’s and while California has been considered a leader for a while, the reality is Brown’s commitment should be considered wide open. Though he’s got his group of seven, it wouldn’t be a huge surprise to see some new programs jump in depending on how things go during the early period.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/how-things-stand-with-the-top-10-available-big-men
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Maybe he wants to see other parts of the country. Not everyone from California wants to stay there and play.
That could absolutely be the case, but I imagine it being like a kid from Indiana getting an IU offer or a kid in NC getting an offer from UNC.
Anyways... he would be a great get.
Or like a kid from NYC getting a offer from SJU lol
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Maybe he wants to see other parts of the country. Not everyone from California wants to stay there and play.
That could absolutely be the case, but I imagine it being like a kid from Indiana getting an IU offer or a kid in NC getting an offer from UNC.
Anyways... he would be a great get.
But not every player who gets an offer from IU or NC goes. So an offer from Cal may be nice maybe he wants want to play out side of Cali
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should hire O’Toole as an assistant I believe he has been on Brown for a while
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Philippe Doherty
@coachpdoherty
@ProlificPrep moves to 1-0 on the season with a 104-93 victory over Elite Prep (WA). Jordan Brown leads the way with 28 pts.19 reb. 8bl. 7as
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Marley Paul
@MarleyPaul22
Monster debut at @ProlificPrep by #sjubb target 5-star Jordan Brown.
49 points, 38 rebounds, 13 blocks, 11 assists total in first 2 games.
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If the kid escapes Cal, UCLA and Gonzaga I would be absolutely shocked. Pipe dream.
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If the kid escapes Cal, UCLA and Gonzaga I would be absolutely shocked. Pipe dream.
+1
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http://www.hoopseen.com/news/player/201711/five-star-jordan-brown-content-taking-his-time-recruitment
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https://247sports.com/Article/Jordan-Brown-No-14-looking-to-set-up-more-official-visits-111775781
“We’ve only taken two visits so far,” he said. “St. John’s and then we went to UCLA. Both visits were nice and we had a good time. You’re looking at one extreme to the other, from New York out to LA. We enjoyed both visits. We are just going from there.”
The elder Brown was particularly impressed with what Chris Mullin and his staff had to offer.
“Chris Mullin, man he was great,” he said. “The one thing I took from it was I can understand why the players like him. He’s a teacher. He made us feel real comfortable. You can see the knowledge. If we went that route, I know Jordan would be in good hands.”
“We want to do some more visits,” Dion Brown, Jordan’s father, said. “Gonzaga and Oregon, but right now we are trying to figure out how to fit them in.”
“We want to see them,” he added. “We want to check Gonzaga out. We want to see Oregon. Then there’s my old college, Louisiana-Lafayette. Three weeks ago they inducted me into the Hall of Fame.”
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https://247sports.com/Article/Jordan-Brown-No-14-looking-to-set-up-more-official-visits-111775781
“We’ve only taken two visits so far,” he said. “St. John’s and then we went to UCLA. Both visits were nice and we had a good time. You’re looking at one extreme to the other, from New York out to LA. We enjoyed both visits. We are just going from there.”
The elder Brown was particularly impressed with what Chris Mullin and his staff had to offer.
“Chris Mullin, man he was great,” he said. “The one thing I took from it was I can understand why the players like him. He’s a teacher. He made us feel real comfortable. You can see the knowledge. If we went that route, I know Jordan would be in good hands.”
“We want to do some more visits,” Dion Brown, Jordan’s father, said. “Gonzaga and Oregon, but right now we are trying to figure out how to fit them in.”
“We want to see them,” he added. “We want to check Gonzaga out. We want to see Oregon. Then there’s my old college, Louisiana-Lafayette. Three weeks ago they inducted me into the Hall of Fame.”
That's some really encouraging words from his father. You can tell he loves Mullin. Makes me think we aren't out of this and it's at most a 4 horse race... Can see his father is running this ship. Slightly optimistic fingers crossed...
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That's positive....and clearly he cares and looking out for son but sadly another example of father living through son. Everything is "we", not the kid.
Also funny how coincidental his alma mater is inducting him into their HOF, when trying to secure visit.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dion-brown-2.html
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https://247sports.com/Article/Jordan-Brown-No-14-looking-to-set-up-more-official-visits-111775781
“We’ve only taken two visits so far,” he said. “St. John’s and then we went to UCLA. Both visits were nice and we had a good time. You’re looking at one extreme to the other, from New York out to LA. We enjoyed both visits. We are just going from there.”
The elder Brown was particularly impressed with what Chris Mullin and his staff had to offer.
“Chris Mullin, man he was great,” he said. “The one thing I took from it was I can understand why the players like him. He’s a teacher. He made us feel real comfortable. You can see the knowledge. If we went that route, I know Jordan would be in good hands.”
“We want to do some more visits,” Dion Brown, Jordan’s father, said. “Gonzaga and Oregon, but right now we are trying to figure out how to fit them in.”
“We want to see them,” he added. “We want to check Gonzaga out. We want to see Oregon. Then there’s my old college, Louisiana-Lafayette. Three weeks ago they inducted me into the Hall of Fame.”
That's some really encouraging words from his father. You can tell he loves Mullin. Makes me think we aren't out of this and it's at most a 4 horse race... Can see his father is running this ship. Slightly optimistic fingers crossed...
I felt very comfortable right up until he uttered that last sentence.
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Would imagine the staff is putting this west coast trip to good use and is seeing Brown and Brooks before they come back east
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It's only a 6 hour drive from his prep school and home town to Staples, assuming no fires in the way.
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Again, this kid is the longest of long shots. Nice comments from his Dad but I think we'd need to show marked improvement (tourney bid) for him to truly consider us. The good thing is his camp has always said that no decision will come until the late period.
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Again, this kid is the longest of long shots. Nice comments from his Dad but I think we'd need to show marked improvement (tourney bid) for him to truly consider us. The good thing is his camp has always said that no decision will come until the late period.
You have inside info that he's the longest of long shots? His list is definitely west coast heavy. The other schools he's considering aren't any better than we are, except for Gonzaga...
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Again, this kid is the longest of long shots. Nice comments from his Dad but I think we'd need to show marked improvement (tourney bid) for him to truly consider us. The good thing is his camp has always said that no decision will come until the late period.
You have inside info that he's the longest of long shots? His list is definitely west coast heavy. The other schools he's considering aren't any better than we are, except for Gonzaga...
Oregon and UCLA aren't better programs than we are currently? Dude, give me some of what you're smoking. He could be part of a dream team recruiting class that Oregon has for next year and UCLA speaks for itself, so yeah they are both better programs than we are in our current state. No shame in that as they are both Top 20 programs IMO. Add to that he's in the middle of Pac 12 and Gonzaga country, all reasons why I think he's a long shot. I hope I'm wrong.
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Again, this kid is the longest of long shots. Nice comments from his Dad but I think we'd need to show marked improvement (tourney bid) for him to truly consider us. The good thing is his camp has always said that no decision will come until the late period.
You have inside info that he's the longest of long shots? His list is definitely west coast heavy. The other schools he's considering aren't any better than we are, except for Gonzaga...
Oregon and UCLA aren't better programs than we are currently? Dude, give me some of what you're smoking. He could be part of a dream team recruiting class that Oregon has for next year and UCLA speaks for itself, so yeah they are both better programs than we are in our current state. No shame in that as they are both Top 20 programs IMO. Add to that he's in the middle of Pac 12 and Gonzaga country, all reasons why I think he's a long shot. I hope I'm wrong.
But if you are ranking the programs in terms of all-time college basketball schools you have to admit we rank ahead of UCLA and their what 11 National Championships? ::)
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This has nothing to do with all-time stats. Currently they aren’t better than us THIS season, which is why I’m not sure that matters. There is no substantive info that we need to show “marked improvement” to land him. I was questioning whether this was real info from Brown’s Camp, but now realize merely speculation. I definitely see mostly west coast schools there so if it’s a regional thing I get it.
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Again, this kid is the longest of long shots. Nice comments from his Dad but I think we'd need to show marked improvement (tourney bid) for him to truly consider us. The good thing is his camp has always said that no decision will come until the late period.
You have inside info that he's the longest of long shots? His list is definitely west coast heavy. The other schools he's considering aren't any better than we are, except for Gonzaga...
Oregon and UCLA aren't better programs than we are currently? Dude, give me some of what you're smoking. He could be part of a dream team recruiting class that Oregon has for next year and UCLA speaks for itself, so yeah they are both better programs than we are in our current state. No shame in that as they are both Top 20 programs IMO. Add to that he's in the middle of Pac 12 and Gonzaga country, all reasons why I think he's a long shot. I hope I'm wrong.
But if you are ranking the programs in terms of all-time college basketball schools you have to admit we rank ahead of UCLA and their what 11 National Championships? ::)
1 and 1A 8)
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Clevis Murray
@ClevisMurray
I'm told Oregon will be in to watch Jordan Brown '18 of Prolific Prep (CA) and Uziel Muteba '19 of Lincoln Academy (GA) this weekend.
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This has nothing to do with all-time stats. Currently they aren’t better than us THIS season, which is why I’m not sure that matters. There is no substantive info that we need to show “marked improvement” to land him. I was questioning whether this was real info from Brown’s Camp, but now realize merely speculation. I definitely see mostly west coast schools there so if it’s a regional thing I get it.
Exactly, it's kind of like the year Harvard didn't have any Pulitzer or Nobel prize winners. Put them on an equal footing with Cal St Northridge that year.
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This has nothing to do with all-time stats. Currently they aren’t better than us THIS season, which is why I’m not sure that matters. There is no substantive info that we need to show “marked improvement” to land him. I was questioning whether this was real info from Brown’s Camp, but now realize merely speculation. I definitely see mostly west coast schools there so if it’s a regional thing I get it.
Exactly, it's kind of like the year Harvard didn't have any Pulitzer or Nobel prize winners. Put them on an equal footing with Cal St Northridge that year.
The blue bloods will always be just that. Still don’t think it’s contingent on us landing Brown.. we will never be able to compete money-wise with Nike U, and don’t tell me they aren’t getting kids money somehow. The program is run by a shoe company.
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This has nothing to do with all-time stats. Currently they aren’t better than us THIS season, which is why I’m not sure that matters. There is no substantive info that we need to show “marked improvement” to land him. I was questioning whether this was real info from Brown’s Camp, but now realize merely speculation. I definitely see mostly west coast schools there so if it’s a regional thing I get it.
Exactly, it's kind of like the year Harvard didn't have any Pulitzer or Nobel prize winners. Put them on an equal footing with Cal St Northridge that year.
The blue bloods will always be just that. Still don’t think it’s contingent on us landing Brown.. we will never be able to compete money-wise with Nike U, and don’t tell me they aren’t getting kids money somehow. The program is run by a shoe company.
Oregon is a sewer & Altman a player as article shows in my opinion.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/12/07/dana-altman-oregon-kavell-bigby-williams-investigation
In any event extremely doubtful we get Brown from what I hear fwiw.
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Still pushing...
https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/940652662365786112
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So with J'Raan on board I guess we aren't in the mix for Brown anymore?
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So with J'Raan on board I guess we aren't in the mix for Brown anymore?
Correct, always a long shot anyway.
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So with J'Raan on board I guess we aren't in the mix for Brown anymore?
Correct, always a long shot anyway.
Paultz are you certain we're no long pursuing jb? I was reading an interview from the 12th where his father mentioned their list was still the seven schools originally mentioned. Also, if we are in fact not putting any resources into his recruitment can someone explain the reasoning why? I don't see any reason to not at least attempt to stay in the mix for an elite talent who's listed us in his final 7 schools. Considering how rapidly circumstances in the recruiting world can change I've always found the notion of "being done" in a given recruiting cycle laughable.
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Per Rivals....
St. John’s (on J’Raan Brooks and his recent commitment): “They haven’t talked to me about it yet but they are still recruiting me the same way. We do know each other. We played on the same team at adidas Nations so we have a good relationship there.”
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/five-star-jordan-brown-still-considering-seven-before-spring-signing
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Per Rivals....
St. John’s (on J’Raan Brooks and his recent commitment): “They haven’t talked to me about it yet but they are still recruiting me the same way. We do know each other. We played on the same team at adidas Nations so we have a good relationship there.”
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/five-star-jordan-brown-still-considering-seven-before-spring-signing
Nah, we good man. Why would we want the #12 rated recruit in the country when we are in last place in the conference with zero wins? Why recruit over the Yakwe's and AliB's of the world? We good.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/01/23/jordan-brown-talks-mcdonalds-selection-recruiting/
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
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Who is Griffin?
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
I find it exremely hard to believe that a couple guys won't leave and we won't explore the transfer market especially the grad transfer market
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
Sense in face of limited PT Yakwe departs. Matt possibly is looking at Marcellus Earlington, undersized power player from Don Bosco HS in NJ to assess his skill level.
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http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2017/12/former_rutgers_national_football_recruit_marcellus.html
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
I find it exremely hard to believe that a couple guys won't leave and we won't explore the transfer market especially the grad transfer market
Grad transfer can go both ways. Owens should be eligible.
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
I find it exremely hard to believe that a couple guys won't leave and we won't explore the transfer market especially the grad transfer market
Grad transfer can go both ways. Owens should be eligible.
Owens would be crazy to go, who else is going to let him shoot 3 or 4 threes per game?
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
I find it exremely hard to believe that a couple guys won't leave and we won't explore the transfer market especially the grad transfer market
Grad transfer can go both ways. Owens should be eligible.
Owens would be crazy to go, who else is going to let him shoot 3 or 4 threes per game?
You know where
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
I find it exremely hard to believe that a couple guys won't leave and we won't explore the transfer market especially the grad transfer market
Grad transfer can go both ways. Owens should be eligible.
Owens would be crazy to go, who else is going to let him shoot 3 or 4 threes per game?
You know where
Xavier. Word on the street
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
Sense in face of limited PT Yakwe departs. Matt possibly is looking at Marcellus Earlington, undersized power player from Don Bosco HS in NJ to assess his skill level.
Are you Carnack? How do you "sense" these things? ;)
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
I find it exremely hard to believe that a couple guys won't leave and we won't explore the transfer market especially the grad transfer market
Grad transfer can go both ways. Owens should be eligible.
Owens would be crazy to go, who else is going to let him shoot 3 or 4 threes per game?
I am not saying he will or he won't, I'm just saying he could.
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
Who replaces Ponds ?
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Not going to happen. They will look to add a guard late to replace Lovett maybe Griffin, but other than that and barring any further roster changes the 2018-19 roster is basically set:
Guards: Dixon, Ponds, Simons, Trimble, Williams (Maybe Griffin)
Forwards/Big Men: Keita, Owens, Yakwe, Roberts, Brooks, Clark, Diakite
Who replaces Ponds ?
Streams...point guard for Don Bosco
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Anybody with inside knowledge have any clue how much time we're investing recruiting this kid? I love hearing that we're still in the mix but the kid saying we haven't yet discussed getting Brooks with him makes absolute zero sense to me if we're in regular communication with him.
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Andrew Slater reporting St. Jean going to see JB tomorrow.
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Andrew Slater reporting St. Jean going to see JB tomorrow.
Initial reaction is that we don't have a chance, but his school list makes it possible. Cal is way worse than us this year. UCLA is not much better than us.
I actually feel better that St. Jean is handling this.
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Andrew Slater reporting St. Jean going to see JB tomorrow.
Initial reaction is that we don't have a chance, but his school list makes it possible. Cal is way worse than us this year. UCLA is not much better than us.
I actually feel better that St. Jean is handling this.
MyAndrew Slater reporting St. Jean going to see JB tomorrow.
Initial reaction is that we don't have a chance, but his school list makes it possible. Cal is way worse than us this year. UCLA is not much better than us.
I actually feel better that St. Jean is handling this.
My understanding is that UCLA has quite the logjam of front court players. Who knows what our chances truly are but I'm glad to see staff trying to stay in the mix. Would be one of the highest rated recruits in our history.
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Cal in turmoil however, possibility of Kidd being coach there.
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Cal in turmoil however, possibility of Kidd being coach there.
Glad we won tonight with St. Jean visiting him and trying to sell that we have turned things around with big wins over two top 5 teams in 5 days if he had arrived on the heels of a loss to under .500 and ninth place DePaul.
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I'm wondering if our own Tim O'Toole is the recruiter of Jordan Brown at Cal?
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any idea if he'll visit Brooks while on the west coast?
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@NYPost_Brazille
St Johns coach Chris Mullin with assistant Greg St Jean seeing five-star forward Jordan Brown in Cali tonight #sjubb
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Picture of Coach at Jordan Brown's school:
https://twitter.com/ProlificPrep/status/964315635474866176
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@NYPost_Brazille
St Johns coach Chris Mullin with assistant Greg St Jean seeing five-star forward Jordan Brown in Cali tonight #sjubb
Glad Batman went on the recruiting trip instead of just Robin as was first reported.
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Can’t depend on one recruiter. Mullin needs to be out there , he has gravitus.
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https://247sports.com/Article/Whats-the-latest-with-five-star-power-forward-Jordan-Brown-115435706
Says he is visiting his father's alma mater this weekend Louisiana Lafayette. Wants to decide before McD AA game.
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Reminds me of Danny Manning.
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Reminds me of Danny Manning.
He's going to Kansas? ;)
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On 247 sports Jerry Meyer just predicted Brown to St.Johns.
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On 247 sports Jerry Meyer just predicted Brown to St.Johns.
Saw it too...
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I just broke out my rosary beads...
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I just broke out my rosary beads...
I’m praying with you.
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On 247 sports Jerry Meyer just predicted Brown to St.Johns.
Not sure I'd read too much into that as Slater just crystal balled him for Cal. Both guys had him crystal balled to UCLA I believe and they just picked up Shaq's kid today so UCLA doesn't look like a likely landing spot for him anymore
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On 247 sports Jerry Meyer just predicted Brown to St.Johns.
Not sure I'd read too much into that as Slater just crystal balled him for Cal. Both guys had him crystal balled to UCLA I believe and they just picked up Shaq's kid today so UCLA doesn't look like a likely landing spot for him anymore
Correct they are both eliminating UCLA. I believe most feel this is a Cal vs SJU battle with an edge to Cal for location.
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On 247 sports Jerry Meyer just predicted Brown to St.Johns.
Not sure I'd read too much into that as Slater just crystal balled him for Cal. Both guys had him crystal balled to UCLA I believe and they just picked up Shaq's kid today so UCLA doesn't look like a likely landing spot for him anymore
Correct they are both eliminating UCLA. I believe most feel this is a Cal vs SJU battle with an edge to Cal for location.
No Gonzaga?
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Crazy turn of events with Oneal's decommit from zona and quick commitment to UCLA. Perfect example of why it's important to stay in mix with these elite kids instead of just writing them off as being long shots. Mullin could turn this class from one of the worst in the league to one of the best with a jb commitment.
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On 247 sports Jerry Meyer just predicted Brown to St.Johns.
Not sure I'd read too much into that as Slater just crystal balled him for Cal. Both guys had him crystal balled to UCLA I believe and they just picked up Shaq's kid today so UCLA doesn't look like a likely landing spot for him anymore
Correct they are both eliminating UCLA. I believe most feel this is a Cal vs SJU battle with an edge to Cal for location.
No Gonzaga?
No...
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I’m an atheist, but I’m gonns try praying too. At least we have a punchers chance with other options out of picture now. Big East overall I think would be great for Brown’s basketball exposure though. Maybe staff can get this done...
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On 247 sports Jerry Meyer just predicted Brown to St.Johns.
Not sure I'd read too much into that as Slater just crystal balled him for Cal. Both guys had him crystal balled to UCLA I believe and they just picked up Shaq's kid today so UCLA doesn't look like a likely landing spot for him anymore
Correct they are both eliminating UCLA. I believe most feel this is a Cal vs SJU battle with an edge to Cal for location.
No Gonzaga?
No...
Good.
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Leave the clipboard to Matt & Mitch for rest of reg season and BET and have Mullin & St. Jean camp out in CA.
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Leave the clipboard to Matt & Mitch for rest of reg season and BET and have Mullin & St. Jean camp out in CA.
Matt coach? Hahahahahaha ahahahahahahhaha
Good one!
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https://247sports.com/Bolt/California-now-leading-for-Jordan-Brown-115662975
Meyer switched his crystal ball from us to Cal today
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Slater is guy to respect most on that site, picking Cal. He is pretty wired to SJU
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https://247sports.com/Bolt/California-now-leading-for-Jordan-Brown-115662975
Meyer switched his crystal ball from us to Cal today
Well that was quick....
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https://247sports.com/Bolt/California-now-leading-for-Jordan-Brown-115662975
Meyer switched his crystal ball from us to Cal today
Well that was quick....
Must have been the Earlington commitment.
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is Brown supposed to announce soon..?
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Greg apparently was out to see him this past week.
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Some complainers think he should have been in Glen Falls watching sophs and juniors.
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Greg apparently was out to see him this past week.
Stopped by on his way home from a bagel run?
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Some complainers think he should have been in Glen Falls watching sophs and juniors.
St. Jean deserves a raise
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A name will likely pop this week re grad transfer big target I sense. Would forget Jordan Brown btw.
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Some complainers think he should have been in Glen Falls watching sophs and juniors.
Complainers?
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Whiners!
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Whiners!
Trust the process!
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That's wise advice.
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Greg apparently was out to see him this past week.
Stopped by on his way home from a bagel run?
Coffee light cream no sugar.
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That's wise advice.
If your looking to finish in 9th place
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I hate to break it to you, but you have nothing to do with what place we come in,
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is Brown supposed to announce soon..?
Looks like he is pushing his announcement out at least another week if not further..
He is in Atlanta for the McD AA game this week and recruiting shuts down starting on Thursday 3/29 thru next Thursday 4/5 (Dead Period). Word is he may want to visit Gonzaga after the Dead Period and have in-homes prior to deciding. We'll see.
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Strike Gonzaga put in Arizona and Stanford.
Arizona doesn't surprise me Sean Miller will be on every kid imaginable
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/978280049819480064
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https://www.flohoops.com/articles/6157903-jordan-brown-still-undecided-on-college-future-new-schools-in-the-mix
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https://www.flohoops.com/articles/6157903-jordan-brown-still-undecided-on-college-future-new-schools-in-the-mix
Certainly sounds like we're in the mix. We need a big in the worst way. Whether its the grad transfer route or not, a minimum of 2 committed bigs are needed during the Spring Signing Period.
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Nice comments on our effort and interest, but Just seems he has a total West Coast lean....
His dad's school seems like a courtesy.
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/five-star-jordan-brown-talks-finalists-potential-new-schools-at-mcdonald-s
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St. Jean managing to get Jordan Brown would be pretty astounding. Definitely not confident but who knows
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St. Jean managing to get Jordan Brown would be pretty astounding. Definitely not confident but who knows
St. Jean couldn't land a HS gig if he tried. Like I said months ago, 5 star kid from the West Coast isn't coming all the way here especially to go to SJU. Staff needs to get realistic and score some solid bigs real soon.
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St. Jean managing to get Jordan Brown would be pretty astounding. Definitely not confident but who knows
St. Jean couldn't land a HS gig if he tried. Like I said months ago, 5 star kid from the West Coast isn't coming all the way here especially to go to SJU. Staff needs to get realistic and score some solid bigs real soon.
St Jean is not the problem. People want to doubt him because he’s 28. Who gives a shit. He’s been around nba and college folks his whole life. I’m not worried about his ability to coach. I’ve actually been impressed with some stuff he draws up. But recruiting is a different animal. Age and experience matters more there.
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St. Jean managing to get Jordan Brown would be pretty astounding. Definitely not confident but who knows
St. Jean couldn't land a HS gig if he tried. Like I said months ago, 5 star kid from the West Coast isn't coming all the way here especially to go to SJU. Staff needs to get realistic and score some solid bigs real soon.
St Jean is not the problem. People want to doubt him because he’s 28. Who gives a shit. He’s been around nba and college folks his whole life. I’m not worried about his ability to coach. I’ve actually been impressed with some stuff he draws up. But recruiting is a different animal. Age and experience matters more there.
Agreed. I will say this again the talent level going into year 4 is nowhere near where we all thought it would be when he took over 3 years ago. It is just not. And if you honestly think you thought SJU roster is about where you thought it would be you are either lying or you never thought the Mullin hire would be that great to begin with.
There is just no way after he was hired that you would think SJU would whiff on essentially every major local recruit 3 years later and be touting a former football player as a key recruit going into year 4 after 3 straight losing seasins. No way...
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Come on. The kid is a basketball prodigy. Don't put this on St. Jean. He is a young highly intelligent basketball mind who grew up in this. Yes, the staff could use another experienced voice for game management/planning and yes they should all be recruiting, but don't put this on a kid who has forgotten more about basketball then this board knows combined.
St. Jean managing to get Jordan Brown would be pretty astounding. Definitely not confident but who knows
St. Jean couldn't land a HS gig if he tried. Like I said months ago, 5 star kid from the West Coast isn't coming all the way here especially to go to SJU. Staff needs to get realistic and score some solid bigs real soon.
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Giving Greg SJ his due, told he is an extremely hard working coach preparing game plans, running drills & obviously in game input. That said, he does not seem to be wired to recruit. That’s ok.
Would hope the second AC could, but it appears that is not part of his arrangement. Moving Mitch up to a AC slot does not look like a good move considering our recruiting challenges. Putting him back to the Special Assistant role seems way to go, but doubt Mullin would do that for several reasons. We need two guys out there beating bushes for players regularly. Hopefully CM will make a hard decision. He is getting paid enough to solve this issue.
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Giving Greg SJ his due, told he is an extremely hard working coach preparing game plans, running drills & obviously in game input. That said, he does not seem to be wired to recruit. That’s ok.
Would hope the second AC could, but it appears that is not part of his arrangement. Moving Mitch up to a AC slot does not look like a good move considering our recruiting challenges. Putting him back to the Special Assistant role seems way to go, but doubt Mullin would do that for several reasons. We need two guys out there beating bushes for players regularly. Hopefully CM will make a hard decision. He is getting paid enough to solve this issue.
He had a big time recruiter...he screwed it up and now he needs to re-evaluate.
But my larger point is this staff composition is 100% on Chris, I could care less why or how or who got a raise. He's responsible. Fix it and get this thing going....
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Jordan Brown finished with 26 points and 8 boards as his team won the McDonald's game 131-128. His teammate Nas Little was the MVP with 28 points. Brown, who's built like Tariq Owens, runs the floor well and showed nice touch around the basket with both hands, but damn, lots of these "high school" kids are full grown men.
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No sense dreaming :)
https://twitter.com/marcum89/status/980819458905210880?s=21
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UNC and Louisville are the latest to reach out to Jordan Brown
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
There is plenty of time to do both if we didn't have a staff that seems to work part time.
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
So fans want the staff to get better talent but they don't want them wasting time putting in the effort it takes to secure them...
This posts sums up the WORST fan base in college basketball...
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
So fans want the staff to get better talent but they don't want them wasting time putting in the effort it takes to secure them...
This posts sums up the WORST fan base in college basketball...
I think what many are saying is to target more attainable prospects and don't waste your time on pipe dreams like Jordan Brown. The staff's efforts could be better spent with 3 star kids who can be coached up and develop into nice players over the course of their careers if any actually complete 3 or 4 seasons in Queens.
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
So fans want the staff to get better talent but they don't want them wasting time putting in the effort it takes to secure them...
This posts sums up the WORST fan base in college basketball...
I think what many are saying is to target more attainable prospects and don't waste your time on pipe dreams like Jordan Brown. The staff's efforts could be better spent with 3 star kids who can be coached up and develop into nice players over the course of their careers if any actually complete 3 or 4 seasons in Queens.
People complain either way. You cant win with this fan base.
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
So fans want the staff to get better talent but they don't want them wasting time putting in the effort it takes to secure them...
This posts sums up the WORST fan base in college basketball...
I think what many are saying is to target more attainable prospects and don't waste your time on pipe dreams like Jordan Brown. The staff's efforts could be better spent with 3 star kids who can be coached up and develop into nice players over the course of their careers if any actually complete 3 or 4 seasons in Queens.
People complain either way. You cant win with this fan base.
People want the staff to have a direction and a plan. Coming up on season 4, they seem to have neither.
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
So fans want the staff to get better talent but they don't want them wasting time putting in the effort it takes to secure them...
This posts sums up the WORST fan base in college basketball...
I think what many are saying is to target more attainable prospects and don't waste your time on pipe dreams like Jordan Brown. The staff's efforts could be better spent with 3 star kids who can be coached up and develop into nice players over the course of their careers if any actually complete 3 or 4 seasons in Queens.
People complain either way. You cant win with this fan base.
More to the point is you can't win with this school.. Stop with the fan base. Do you know of any other school, run the way this one is, that has a great fan base ?
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Totally agree with PMG911 analysis of our fan base.
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I like concentrating on the 4 star recruits. We have been concentrating on a lot of 5 stars, whiffing and scrambling. Hard to compete w Duke and Kansas. Much better chance w the 4 stars. And they are more likely not to be 1 and done.
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Too much time wasted by St. Jean... work on some attainable prospects! Pop that recruiting cherry on a 3-4 Star HS kid that takes off...
So fans want the staff to get better talent but they don't want them wasting time putting in the effort it takes to secure them...
This posts sums up the WORST fan base in college basketball...
I'm one who'll never complain about us going after elite talent. If I personally know they are or have wasted time, then I will speak up. Otherwise, you always go after top-flight talent.
As, far as the worst fan base in all of college basketball.... Hyperbole. Go visit several other team sites amongst the top 6 conferences and come back to the forum, and I bet you'd have a different take on our fan base.
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There is something to be said about a fan base that sticks w it’s team after going 0-11.
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There is something to be said about a fan base that sticks w it’s team after going 0-11.
Or, years of futility. I've seen fans of other programs, who has been wildly more successful than us, go ballistic at the slightest sign of adversity.
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There is something to be said about a fan base that sticks w it’s team after going 0-11.
Totally agree but are people posting here really sticking with the program or just complaining about how bad we are... definitely seems like the latter more often
Everyone certainly has the right to complain but the same thing over and over and over is sickening...
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what's the latest here? Any chance in hell he comes?
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what's the latest here? Any chance in hell he comes?
The staff is really working hard to make this happen. Ok, no they aren’t.
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You are literally the worst fan. There is a huge difference between being a realist and hideous fan. Most of this board is the former after years of letdown. You are the latter. We just get a transfer everyone is excited about and your first post sarcastically states that he asked for his release already. If you hate the staff and program so much just move onto something else. I certainly would if I had that much dislike.
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Again, not getting Jordan Brown
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I think we can officially eliminate him now:
https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/989705694218784768
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West coast bound all along. At least Chris and co. got a few trips back to the Bay out of it.
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West coast bound all along. At least Chris and co. got a few trips back to the Bay out of it.
Never miss an opportunity.
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I wonder what this kid is waiting for..
Does anyone know if he has grade issues..? I am just asking because I don't know anything...
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Jb announcing tomorrow
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Chose Nevada
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Quite the assumption, winning and Sweet16 appearances attract talent as well.
https://twitter.com/DanyelleSargent/status/994940912399667206
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Quite the assumption, winning and Sweet16 appearances attract talent as well.
https://twitter.com/DanyelleSargent/status/994940912399667206
If you have been a fan of St. john's for the past 25 years may be hard to recognize what good coaching is.
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Quite the assumption, winning and Sweet16 appearances attract talent as well.
I think most people that really know how recruiting works would say it's not a stretch assumption at all. He got the Martin twins to transfer there before he even made an NCAA tournament, and they had plenty of power conference teams after them.
I'm just saying that to me it smells fishy. Like Baylor has for the past 10 years and like Auburn has since Pearl got there. Obviously nothing will ever come of it and Muss will probably be at UCLA in the next year or so
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Quite the assumption, winning and Sweet16 appearances attract talent as well.
I think most people that really know how recruiting works would say it's not a stretch assumption at all. He got the Martin twins to transfer there before he even made an NCAA tournament, and they had plenty of power conference teams after them.
I'm just saying that to me it smells fishy. Like Baylor has for the past 10 years and like Auburn has since Pearl got there. Obviously nothing will ever come of it and Muss will probably be at UCLA in the next year or so
His list was odd to begin with. No blue blood high major programs except for UCLA, and they got Moses Brown and Shareef O'Neal (so that essentially eliminated them), and Arizona and they came in late and still have the FBI thing overhanging. Imean Cal, SJU, Nevada, Louisiana-Lafayette etc.
When you think about it that way Nevada doesn't sound that outrageous.
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Quite the assumption, winning and Sweet16 appearances attract talent as well.
I think most people that really know how recruiting works would say it's not a stretch assumption at all. He got the Martin twins to transfer there before he even made an NCAA tournament, and they had plenty of power conference teams after them.
I'm just saying that to me it smells fishy. Like Baylor has for the past 10 years and like Auburn has since Pearl got there. Obviously nothing will ever come of it and Muss will probably be at UCLA in the next year or so
His list was odd to begin with. No blue blood high major programs except for UCLA, and they got Moses Brown and Shareef O'Neal (so that essentially eliminated them), and Arizona and they came in late and still have the FBI thing overhanging. Imean Cal, SJU, Nevada, Louisiana-Lafayette etc.
When you think about it that way Nevada doesn't sound that outrageous.
I'm not necessarily saying that Jordan Brown committing to Nevada is the smoking gun or anything, but Nevada has been landing a good amount of top end recruits and elite transfers from all over the country since Muss got there and before they reached this level of success
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Quite the assumption, winning and Sweet16 appearances attract talent as well.
I think most people that really know how recruiting works would say it's not a stretch assumption at all. He got the Martin twins to transfer there before he even made an NCAA tournament, and they had plenty of power conference teams after them.
I'm just saying that to me it smells fishy. Like Baylor has for the past 10 years and like Auburn has since Pearl got there. Obviously nothing will ever come of it and Muss will probably be at UCLA in the next year or so
His list was odd to begin with. No blue blood high major programs except for UCLA, and they got Moses Brown and Shareef O'Neal (so that essentially eliminated them), and Arizona and they came in late and still have the FBI thing overhanging. Imean Cal, SJU, Nevada, Louisiana-Lafayette etc.
When you think about it that way Nevada doesn't sound that outrageous.
I'm not necessarily saying that Jordan Brown committing to Nevada is the smoking gun or anything, but Nevada has been landing a good amount of top end recruits and elite transfers from all over the country since Muss got there and before they reached this level of success
What happens in Vega$ stays in Vega$.
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Chose Nevada
It’s amazing what a little on court success can do for recruiting. This year is so crucial for us.
Starting to think it's more than just a little on court success that is convincing these guys to go to Nevada
Eric Musselmann is arguably the hottest young coaching prospect in the country, leading Nevada to a 81-28 (.743) record over his first 3 years there. How about that for a reason?
(According to University of Kentucky head coach John Calipari, "Eric is one of the best in our sport. Extremely driven and knowledgeable. I've watched and coached against him in the NBA and FIBA games. He has an uncanny feel for the game, and ability to read where the game is at. More importantly, is his ability to motivate and teach his players what it takes to improve and win. He is as good as it gets.)
Maybe he is doing everything on the up and up (but that's highly doubtful because no program that gets any type of decent players does everything 100% by the book). This is starting to feel like Baylor when Scott Drew first got there. To me it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Quite the assumption, winning and Sweet16 appearances attract talent as well.
I think most people that really know how recruiting works would say it's not a stretch assumption at all. He got the Martin twins to transfer there before he even made an NCAA tournament, and they had plenty of power conference teams after them.
I'm just saying that to me it smells fishy. Like Baylor has for the past 10 years and like Auburn has since Pearl got there. Obviously nothing will ever come of it and Muss will probably be at UCLA in the next year or so
His list was odd to begin with. No blue blood high major programs except for UCLA, and they got Moses Brown and Shareef O'Neal (so that essentially eliminated them), and Arizona and they came in late and still have the FBI thing overhanging. Imean Cal, SJU, Nevada, Louisiana-Lafayette etc.
When you think about it that way Nevada doesn't sound that outrageous.
I'm not necessarily saying that Jordan Brown committing to Nevada is the smoking gun or anything, but Nevada has been landing a good amount of top end recruits and elite transfers from all over the country since Muss got there and before they reached this level of success
What happens in Vega$ stays in Vega$.
Nevada has found a way to pay players that are good. St. John's is still paying bottom feeders
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Nevada has found a way to pay players that are good. St. John's is still paying bottom feeders
Name the players SJU is paying and tell us how you know they're being paid and how they're being paid and how much. Otherwise I'll be forced to conclude that you're a liar.
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Nevada has found a way to pay players that are good. St. John's is still paying bottom feeders
Name the players SJU is paying and tell us how you know they're being paid and how they're being paid and how much. Otherwise I'll be forced to conclude that you're a liar.
Ive been called worse by worse people.
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Musselman has done a great job turning Nevada into a top 25 program after only a short time there with no real bball history. Mullin needs to pay attention.
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Nevada has found a way to pay players that are good. St. John's is still paying bottom feeders
Name the players SJU is paying and tell us how you know they're being paid and how they're being paid and how much. Otherwise I'll be forced to conclude that you're a liar.
Ive been called worse by worse people.
Probably you meant better people, huh.
You're accusing the staff and student athletes of criminal activity. It's not the same as your dopey Magic 8-Baldi Ponds is transferring to Arizona trolling. Accusing the players of committing felonies is serious. It's at the very least libelous and if you know it to be true and you don't report it to the authorities you yourself are arguably committing a federal crime:
"Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
So it would be nice if you clarified your statement. Unless it's your usual completely made up bullshit, in which case nevermind.
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
Get to the tournament and the talent will come
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
Exactly
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
Exactly
Spot on--Nevada is in Reno which is a nice town; it is near his home ( about 2 hours by car); and most important is he has seen what it did for the Martin twins with a forward oriented offense which suits his game.
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
I most certainly was thinking that when Lavin was landing the caliber of players he was especially beating other programs I’m convinced are cheating. And for the record I don’t think it’s bad thing. Everybody at that level does it. Some more than other. Have to do it if you want to win
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
Get to the tournament and the talent will come
If as you say the players are being paid why should making the tournament matter?
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
Get to the tournament and the talent will come
If as you say the players are being paid why should making the tournament matter?
Aren't you tired of guys like Ahmed? It's a ripoff
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Just because Nevada has been landing top talents and saying they could be cheating is ridiculous. I bet if St. Johns landed him so many people would be like what the hell? How on earth did they land this guy, they are def doing shady stuff. Nevada has been winning and players seem to like Musselman.
Get to the tournament and the talent will come
If as you say the players are being paid why should making the tournament matter?
Aren't you tired of guys like Ahmed? It's a ripoff
So you're claiming that Bashir Ahmed was paid to come to SJ. How would you know that?
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Transferring out of Nevada