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Non-Sport Related Discussion => Red and White Board => Topic started by: Poison on May 31, 2017, 08:42:18 AM

Title: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on May 31, 2017, 08:42:18 AM
I'm disappointed in her. She should never have apologized. It's not like she really cut his head off. Had she, an apology would most certainly be in order.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: DFF6 on May 31, 2017, 09:17:15 AM
I'm disappointed in her. She should never have apologized. It's not like she really cut his head off. Had she, an apology would most certainly be in order.

She apologized for business reasons.  Had her liberal celebrity friends and business sources applauded the pic, she would be waiving that bloody head around the talk show circuit like a damn trophy.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on May 31, 2017, 10:17:27 AM
I'm disappointed in her. She should never have apologized. It's not like she really cut his head off. Had she, an apology would most certainly be in order.

She apologized for business reasons.  Had her liberal celebrity friends and business sources applauded the pic, she would be waiving that bloody head around the talk show circuit like a damn trophy.

I see why she apologized. It's that they go low we go high message from Michelle. Thing is, plenty of liberals saw that image and applauded.

Funny, I don't recall hearing an apology after seeing Barack Obama's likeness burned at the stake a few years ago.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: valgoth on May 31, 2017, 12:45:53 PM
She's pretty unfunny anyway. didnt matter one way or another.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: redstorm212 on May 31, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on May 31, 2017, 04:21:25 PM
Love to see these liberal clowns continue to obliterate themselves over their own PC culture!!! One more down... keep up the good work
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: mjmaherjr on May 31, 2017, 04:21:26 PM
The angry lefts new rallying cry " when they go low we chop off their heads "
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 31, 2017, 04:43:54 PM
Love to see these liberal clowns continue to obliterate themselves over their own PC culture!!! One more down... keep up the good work

+Godzillion.

I still can't believe the Russians tricked me into voting for Trump 7 times
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on May 31, 2017, 04:58:52 PM
The angry lefts new rallying cry " when they go low we chop off their heads "

They go low, we go High Plains Drifter.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: braintrust on May 31, 2017, 06:04:56 PM
Can't believe how many domestic Communists/Socialists/MainStreamMedia are actually turning against their d-lister. CNN fired her! Anderson Cooper doesn't stand beside her. This might actually be communist/socialist/globalist/mainstreammedia "jump the shark" moment when they all finally sober up and realize Trump won, and not too many Russians voted for him either.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: braintrust on May 31, 2017, 06:07:06 PM
Melissa Mark-Viverito must be kicking herself for not pulling this stunt first, she put all her eggs in the "let's honor the terrorist" baket.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on May 31, 2017, 11:34:07 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: JohnnyJungle on May 31, 2017, 11:44:04 PM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on May 31, 2017, 11:49:23 PM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Celtics11 on June 01, 2017, 12:34:59 AM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 01:11:41 AM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).

48 million dumb shits. There's a sucker born every minute. It's June. He's accomplished nothing.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 01, 2017, 05:42:15 AM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).

48 million dumb shits. There's a sucker born every minute. It's June. He's accomplished nothing.

Watching the  complete meltdown  of liberals, great accomplishment
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 08:46:01 AM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).

48 million dumb shits. There's a sucker born every minute. It's June. He's accomplished nothing.

Watching the  complete meltdown  of liberals, great accomplishment

Liberals like myself, who will never struggle to find and pay for healthcare voted for HRC in order to help poor white trash who are in danger of losing it. I stand to gain monetarily whenever a Republican is in office. (Provided that Republican doesn't start WW3)

I met a US Army vet last week. He walks with a cane. Spent the last 30 years working as a fireman in the city. What part of the city you ask? The financial district. He ran towards the towers on 9/11. He also has cancer now, and is completely unaware that the massive debt he's in because of outrageous healthcare costs is only because the GOP places no value on his life.

Why the F should I care? He voted for this. Thing is, I think it's wrong to take a dump on our first responders. Don't you agree?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 01, 2017, 08:53:47 AM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).

48 million dumb shits. There's a sucker born every minute. It's June. He's accomplished nothing.

Watching the  complete meltdown  of liberals, great accomplishment

Liberals like myself, who will never struggle to find and pay for healthcare voted for HRC in order to help poor white trash who are in danger of losing it. I stand to gain monetarily whenever a Republican is in office. (Provided that Republican doesn't start WW3)

I met a US Army vet last week. He walks with a cane. Spent the last 30 years working as a fireman in the city. What part of the city you ask? The financial district. He ran towards the towers on 9/11. He also has cancer now, and is completely unaware that the massive debt he's in because of outrageous healthcare costs is only because the GOP places no value on his life.

Why the F should I care? He voted for this. Thing is, I think it's wrong to take a dump on our first responders. Don't you agree?

Trump wasnt the President for the last 8 years
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: redstorm212 on June 01, 2017, 09:00:38 AM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 01, 2017, 09:14:59 AM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).

48 million dumb shits. There's a sucker born every minute. It's June. He's accomplished nothing.

Watching the  complete meltdown  of liberals, great accomplishment

Liberals like myself, who will never struggle to find and pay for healthcare voted for HRC in order to help poor white trash who are in danger of losing it. I stand to gain monetarily whenever a Republican is in office. (Provided that Republican doesn't start WW3)

I met a US Army vet last week. He walks with a cane. Spent the last 30 years working as a fireman in the city. What part of the city you ask? The financial district. He ran towards the towers on 9/11. He also has cancer now, and is completely unaware that the massive debt he's in because of outrageous healthcare costs is only because the GOP places no value on his life.

Why the F should I care? He voted for this. Thing is, I think it's wrong to take a dump on our first responders. Don't you agree?

Those poor white trash people don't know how lucky they are to have you as a friend...
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Celtics11 on June 01, 2017, 01:07:26 PM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).

48 million dumb shits. There's a sucker born every minute. It's June. He's accomplished nothing.

Watching the  complete meltdown  of liberals, great accomplishment

Liberals like myself, who will never struggle to find and pay for healthcare voted for HRC in order to help poor white trash who are in danger of losing it. I stand to gain monetarily whenever a Republican is in office. (Provided that Republican doesn't start WW3)

I met a US Army vet last week. He walks with a cane. Spent the last 30 years working as a fireman in the city. What part of the city you ask? The financial district. He ran towards the towers on 9/11. He also has cancer now, and is completely unaware that the massive debt he's in because of outrageous healthcare costs is only because the GOP places no value on his life.

Why the F should I care? He voted for this. Thing is, I think it's wrong to take a dump on our first responders. Don't you agree?

Those poor white trash people don't know how lucky they are to have you as a friend...
Priceless!
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 03:37:58 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 03:39:56 PM
I'm not sure I ever cared what Kathy Griffin said or did. I don't think she represents anyone besides herself.

Perfect description of Trump.
Yeah himself and the 48 million Americans who voted for him (and maybe a Russian or two  :D).

48 million dumb shits. There's a sucker born every minute. It's June. He's accomplished nothing.

Watching the  complete meltdown  of liberals, great accomplishment

Liberals like myself, who will never struggle to find and pay for healthcare voted for HRC in order to help poor white trash who are in danger of losing it. I stand to gain monetarily whenever a Republican is in office. (Provided that Republican doesn't start WW3)

I met a US Army vet last week. He walks with a cane. Spent the last 30 years working as a fireman in the city. What part of the city you ask? The financial district. He ran towards the towers on 9/11. He also has cancer now, and is completely unaware that the massive debt he's in because of outrageous healthcare costs is only because the GOP places no value on his life.

Why the F should I care? He voted for this. Thing is, I think it's wrong to take a dump on our first responders. Don't you agree?

Those poor white trash people don't know how lucky they are to have you as a friend...

And they may never know, but when their health insurance is taken away from them, they may realize that Trump is only in this for himself. Or they may not.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 01, 2017, 05:30:51 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

Good grief. Terry Jones was the pastor of the "Dove World Outreach Center ... a 50-member (as of 2010) non-denominational charismatic Christian church."

Versus an Emmy winning mainstream celebrity who had her own reality television show, appeared on a prime time sitcom on ABC, and hosted among other things The View and CNN's New Year's Eve coverage. Not to mention Fashion Police, which she sullied with her presence after Joan Rivers died.

Two threads over you're complaining that people are comparing Mussini to Ponds - how silly to compare the skills of two college guards on the same college basketball team you said. Here you're comparing an award winning mainstream Hollywood celebrity to someone on the fringes of society who everyone except 50 Floridians believes is a lunatic. See any disconnect there?

Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 05:51:43 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

Good grief. Terry Jones was the pastor of the "Dove World Outreach Center ... a 50-member (as of 2010) non-denominational charismatic Christian church."

Versus an Emmy winning mainstream celebrity who had her own reality television show, appeared on a prime time sitcom on ABC, and hosted among other things The View and CNN's New Year's Eve coverage. Not to mention Fashion Police, which she sullied with her presence after Joan Rivers died.

Two threads over you're complaining that people are comparing Mussini to Ponds - how silly to compare the skills of two college guards on the same college basketball team you said. Here you're comparing an award winning mainstream Hollywood celebrity to someone on the fringes of society who everyone except 50 Floridians believes is a lunatic. See any disconnect there?


Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is? She doesn't speak for me or anyone because she's a celebrity, and seriously, had she not pulled this senseless vile stunt no one would be talking about her anywhere.

If you'd like an example of a celebrity saying crazy shit, just head over to Twitter, and follow the Donald. Or are threats of nuclear war not insane enough for you?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Celtics11 on June 01, 2017, 06:01:16 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

Good grief. Terry Jones was the pastor of the "Dove World Outreach Center ... a 50-member (as of 2010) non-denominational charismatic Christian church."

Versus an Emmy winning mainstream celebrity who had her own reality television show, appeared on a prime time sitcom on ABC, and hosted among other things The View and CNN's New Year's Eve coverage. Not to mention Fashion Police, which she sullied with her presence after Joan Rivers died.

Two threads over you're complaining that people are comparing Mussini to Ponds - how silly to compare the skills of two college guards on the same college basketball team you said. Here you're comparing an award winning mainstream Hollywood celebrity to someone on the fringes of society who everyone except 50 Floridians believes is a lunatic. See any disconnect there?


Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is? She doesn't speak for me or anyone because she's a celebrity, and seriously, had she not pulled this senseless vile stunt no one would be talking about her anywhere.

If you'd like an example of a celebrity saying crazy shit, just head over to Twitter, and follow the Donald. Or are threats of nuclear war not insane enough for you?
Shocked that you consider her stunt to be senseless and vile. Seems like it would be right up your alley. You mean the threat of nuclear war posed by the nut job running N. Korea, agree that is insane.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 01, 2017, 06:11:40 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

Good grief. Terry Jones was the pastor of the "Dove World Outreach Center ... a 50-member (as of 2010) non-denominational charismatic Christian church."

Versus an Emmy winning mainstream celebrity who had her own reality television show, appeared on a prime time sitcom on ABC, and hosted among other things The View and CNN's New Year's Eve coverage. Not to mention Fashion Police, which she sullied with her presence after Joan Rivers died.

Two threads over you're complaining that people are comparing Mussini to Ponds - how silly to compare the skills of two college guards on the same college basketball team you said. Here you're comparing an award winning mainstream Hollywood celebrity to someone on the fringes of society who everyone except 50 Floridians believes is a lunatic. See any disconnect there?


Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is? She doesn't speak for me or anyone because she's a celebrity, and seriously, had she not pulled this senseless vile stunt no one would be talking about her anywhere.

If you'd like an example of a celebrity saying crazy shit, just head over to Twitter, and follow the Donald. Or are threats of nuclear war not insane enough for you?

Hmm, Interesting.... you're the one that started the thread.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 01, 2017, 06:12:56 PM
Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is?

You do. You defended her by positing moral equivalence between her and some guy no one has ever heard of. You did that because you're a butt hurt out of touch leftard who doesn't understand what this means:

(https://manuelgarciajr.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/2012-redblue.png?w=584&h=311)

Which is PS that nearly everyone in the US thinks you're a nice person
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 01, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

Good grief. Terry Jones was the pastor of the "Dove World Outreach Center ... a 50-member (as of 2010) non-denominational charismatic Christian church."

Versus an Emmy winning mainstream celebrity who had her own reality television show, appeared on a prime time sitcom on ABC, and hosted among other things The View and CNN's New Year's Eve coverage. Not to mention Fashion Police, which she sullied with her presence after Joan Rivers died.

Two threads over you're complaining that people are comparing Mussini to Ponds - how silly to compare the skills of two college guards on the same college basketball team you said. Here you're comparing an award winning mainstream Hollywood celebrity to someone on the fringes of society who everyone except 50 Floridians believes is a lunatic. See any disconnect there?


Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is? She doesn't speak for me or anyone because she's a celebrity, and seriously, had she not pulled this senseless vile stunt no one would be talking about her anywhere.

If you'd like an example of a celebrity saying crazy shit, just head over to Twitter, and follow the Donald. Or are threats of nuclear war not insane enough for you?

Hmm, Interesting.... you're the one that started the thread.

Dayum. POTY and I didn't think of it.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Gray Chudney on June 01, 2017, 07:11:03 PM
Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is?

You do. You defended her by positing moral equivalence between her and some guy no one has ever heard of. You did that because you're a butt hurt out of touch leftard who doesn't understand what this means:

(https://manuelgarciajr.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/2012-redblue.png?w=584&h=311)

Which is PS that nearly everyone in the US thinks you're a nice person

You're better than this. More people voted for another candidate despite that map. Who's more out of touch?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Gray Chudney on June 01, 2017, 07:12:25 PM
Poison - why start this thread?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 08:21:20 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

Good grief. Terry Jones was the pastor of the "Dove World Outreach Center ... a 50-member (as of 2010) non-denominational charismatic Christian church."

Versus an Emmy winning mainstream celebrity who had her own reality television show, appeared on a prime time sitcom on ABC, and hosted among other things The View and CNN's New Year's Eve coverage. Not to mention Fashion Police, which she sullied with her presence after Joan Rivers died.

Two threads over you're complaining that people are comparing Mussini to Ponds - how silly to compare the skills of two college guards on the same college basketball team you said. Here you're comparing an award winning mainstream Hollywood celebrity to someone on the fringes of society who everyone except 50 Floridians believes is a lunatic. See any disconnect there?


Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is? She doesn't speak for me or anyone because she's a celebrity, and seriously, had she not pulled this senseless vile stunt no one would be talking about her anywhere.

If you'd like an example of a celebrity saying crazy shit, just head over to Twitter, and follow the Donald. Or are threats of nuclear war not insane enough for you?
Shocked that you consider her stunt to be senseless and vile. Seems like it would be right up your alley. You mean the threat of nuclear war posed by the nut job running N. Korea, agree that is insane.

All that I want for Trump is to see him get exactly what he deserves. And as much as I'd like to see him suffer, cutting his head off is going too far. Just because Republicans basically did the same thing to Obama doesn't justify this.

He can go to jail like every other criminal in this country.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 08:27:28 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

Good grief. Terry Jones was the pastor of the "Dove World Outreach Center ... a 50-member (as of 2010) non-denominational charismatic Christian church."

Versus an Emmy winning mainstream celebrity who had her own reality television show, appeared on a prime time sitcom on ABC, and hosted among other things The View and CNN's New Year's Eve coverage. Not to mention Fashion Police, which she sullied with her presence after Joan Rivers died.

Two threads over you're complaining that people are comparing Mussini to Ponds - how silly to compare the skills of two college guards on the same college basketball team you said. Here you're comparing an award winning mainstream Hollywood celebrity to someone on the fringes of society who everyone except 50 Floridians believes is a lunatic. See any disconnect there?


Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is? She doesn't speak for me or anyone because she's a celebrity, and seriously, had she not pulled this senseless vile stunt no one would be talking about her anywhere.

If you'd like an example of a celebrity saying crazy shit, just head over to Twitter, and follow the Donald. Or are threats of nuclear war not insane enough for you?
Shocked that you consider her stunt to be senseless and vile. Seems like it would be right up your alley. You mean the threat of nuclear war posed by the nut job running N. Korea, agree that is insane.

North Korea doesn't have ships on this side of the planet. That fake news you're not reading isn't fake.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 01, 2017, 08:35:13 PM
Who gives a shit who Kathy Griffin is?

You do. You defended her by positing moral equivalence between her and some guy no one has ever heard of. You did that because you're a butt hurt out of touch leftard who doesn't understand what this means:

(https://manuelgarciajr.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/2012-redblue.png?w=584&h=311)

Which is PS that nearly everyone in the US thinks you're a nice person

You need to read more carefully. I said she shouldn't apologize. I didn't defend her. If that is how an American feels, it's her right, but at least be honest about it.

There are some who believe that the office of the President of the United States should command respect. And those people can go shove a baseball bat up their behinds. Thing is, they won't have to, because Trump is about to do it for them.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: redstorm212 on June 02, 2017, 08:46:23 AM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.
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Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

You really are comparing a random pastor doing that to a mainstream celebrity thinking it's okay to hold a bloody, decapitated head of the sitting president?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 02, 2017, 09:30:48 AM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.
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Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

You really are comparing a random pastor doing that to a mainstream celebrity thinking it's okay to hold a bloody, decapitated head of the sitting president?

I never said it was ok. What I said is that she shouldn't apologize. That wasn't a funny joke to me, but we live in a free country, for now, and if that's how she feels, that's how she feels.

I'd much rather see him stand trial for the crimes he's actually committed and even then we wouldn't cut his head off. We are not ISIS. We'll see if the next few weeks produce any hard evidence, but again, I am not supporting Kathy Griffin. She's a hack looking only for attention via shock value. All that she's accomplished is prove that there are some on the left as deplorable as those on the right. Something we already knew.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 02, 2017, 10:25:19 AM
You're better than this. More people voted for another candidate despite that map. Who's more out of touch?

The blue people who live in big cities are out of touch: people who live in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco, they're out of touch. "I don't know how Nixon was elected, no one I know voted for him." Those people. Meanwhile republicans own the presidency, both houses of Congress, 30 plus governorships, and the legislatures in 30 plus states. Don't worry though, you're still winning. Big time.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 02, 2017, 10:28:16 AM
I'd much rather see him stand trial for the crimes he's actually committed and even then we wouldn't cut his head off. We are not ISIS. We'll see if the next few weeks produce any hard evidence,

The Russians seem to have haxored your understanding of the criminal law. It's not let him stand trial and we'll see if there's any hard evidence that he's actually committed any crimes.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 02, 2017, 10:30:12 AM
You're better than this. More people voted for another candidate despite that map. Who's more out of touch?

The blue people who live in big cities are out of touch: people who live in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco, they're out of touch. "I don't know how Nixon was elected, no one I know voted for him." Those people. Meanwhile republicans own the presidency, both houses of Congress, 30 plus governorships, and the legislatures in 30 plus states. Don't worry though, you're still winning. Big time.

Who is more out of touch? The people who voted for him, and are getting none of what they were promised, or the people who voted against him on their behalf?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 02, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
I'd much rather see him stand trial for the crimes he's actually committed and even then we wouldn't cut his head off. We are not ISIS. We'll see if the next few weeks produce any hard evidence,

The Russians seem to have haxored your understanding of the criminal law. It's not let him stand trial and we'll see if there's any hard evidence that he's actually committed any crimes.

Are you actually trying to say that Trump isn't a criminal? Lol.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 02, 2017, 10:42:08 AM
Who is more out of touch? The people who voted for him, and are getting none of what they were promised, or the people who voted against him on their behalf?

Neil Gorsuch says hey.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 02, 2017, 10:49:58 AM
Who is more out of touch? The people who voted for him, and are getting none of what they were promised, or the people who voted against him on their behalf?

Neil Gorsuch says hey.

So does Comey.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 02, 2017, 11:13:37 AM
Who is more out of touch? The people who voted for him, and are getting none of what they were promised, or the people who voted against him on their behalf?

Neil Gorsuch says hey.

So does Comey.

LOL Comey LOL
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 03, 2017, 12:02:03 PM
Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.
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Imagine the liberal outrage had someone done this to Obama. They'd be calling for an arrest.

Yes Trump is a terrible president, but making a visual joke about decapitating the President? Bold move. Stupid move.

Are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen to Obama?

Would you care to cite an example of a famous comedian who held up a bloody, decapitated head of Obama? I'll wait...

Here you go: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/09/koran-burning-pastor-hangs-obama-in-effigy-in-churchs-front-yard/

Want others? This wasn't an isolated incident.

You really are comparing a random pastor doing that to a mainstream celebrity thinking it's okay to hold a bloody, decapitated head of the sitting president?

Ted Nugent called Obama a "subhuman mongrel" and a "chimpanzee" and that he should "suck on his machine gun" but that was a nice try. Thing is, both sides have people who say horrible things, but we live in a free country, and Ted Nugent is allowed to how he feels.

I'm not asking him to apologize. And I'm f'n pissed that Kathy Griffin apologized. That, was going to far.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Celtics11 on June 03, 2017, 12:20:25 PM
Now she is blaming Trump for ruining her career by mobilizing his political machinery against her and her spokes person says the message is clear-criticize the President and your career is over. What a joke! We all know how heavily Trump gets criticized  and no one else has lost their job. What Stephen Cobert did was almost as bad and that dopes ratings have gone up. She also blames old white men for her plight. Good. Glad to be a part of her difficulties but as bad as I think what she did was, she did apologize and if people still want to see her perform I am all for giving her that chance.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 03, 2017, 12:26:09 PM
Now she is blaming Trump for ruining her career by mobilizing his political machinery against her and her spokes person says the message is clear-criticize the President and your career is over. What a joke! We all know how heavily Trump gets criticized  and no one else has lost their job. What Stephen Cobert did was almost as bad and that dopes ratings have gone up. She also blames old white men for her plight. Good. Glad to be a part of her difficulties but as bad as I think what she did was, she did apologize and if people still want to see her perform I am all for giving her that chance.

No else has lost their job? Read. It will make you an educated person. Trump fired Sally Yates and James Comey. In the end he'll get his, but it should not be a decapitation. Death is too good for him.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Celtics11 on June 03, 2017, 12:44:23 PM
Now she is blaming Trump for ruining her career by mobilizing his political machinery against her and her spokes person says the message is clear-criticize the President and your career is over. What a joke! We all know how heavily Trump gets criticized  and no one else has lost their job. What Stephen Cobert did was almost as bad and that dopes ratings have gone up. She also blames old white men for her plight. Good. Glad to be a part of her difficulties but as bad as I think what she did was, she did apologize and if people still want to see her perform I am all for giving her that chance.

No else has lost their job? Read. It will make you an educated person. Trump fired Sally Yates and James Comey. In the end he'll get his, but it should not be a decapitation. Death is too good for him.  :P
Yeah, I bet you haven't lost yours if anybody was stupid enough to hire you. Hey, I have some empty bottles and cans lying around that your welcome too.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 03, 2017, 01:24:41 PM
Now she is blaming Trump for ruining her career by mobilizing his political machinery against her and her spokes person says the message is clear-criticize the President and your career is over. What a joke! We all know how heavily Trump gets criticized  and no one else has lost their job. What Stephen Cobert did was almost as bad and that dopes ratings have gone up. She also blames old white men for her plight. Good. Glad to be a part of her difficulties but as bad as I think what she did was, she did apologize and if people still want to see her perform I am all for giving her that chance.

No else has lost their job? Read. It will make you an educated person. Trump fired Sally Yates and James Comey. In the end he'll get his, but it should not be a decapitation. Death is too good for him.  :P
Yeah, I bet you haven't lost yours if anybody was stupid enough to hire you. Hey, I have some empty bottles and cans lying around that your welcome too.

Wow, really smart response.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Marillac on June 04, 2017, 12:22:13 AM
Poison is getting decapitated in this thread.  Why is that the default liberal response to any problem is to compare it to something a conservative did? Like everyone is on a team.  Nobody thinks what Ted Nugent said was okay. Language can never been as graphic as a photo or video. Madonna threatened to assassinate Trump during the million cunt march and few people batted an eye. My friend told me the Mets loss the other day felt like the team took a collective sh*t on his face.  Words....no big deal.  If he sent a photo, we have problems.  Capiche?

Kathie Griffin was virtue signaling.  It was a stunt to raise the bar, because the more you express hatred for  Donald Trump in the liberal world, the more amazing you are as a human being. She found the limit. 
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 04, 2017, 01:33:26 AM
Nobody thinks what Ted Nugent said was okay.

Ever seen a Trump rally on the television? Ever spent time in a red state?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Gray Chudney on June 04, 2017, 07:56:04 AM
Why is that the default liberal response to any problem is to compare it to something a conservative did? Like everyone is on a team

Interesting observation. I'd say the same is true of conservatives when the debate is about Trump's actions. Trump himself recalls campaign trail rhetoric slamming Hillary or Obama to deflect tough questions about borderline indefensible policies.  It seems like a cornerstone of modern American conservatism is enjoying liberal outrage.  This is why a moderate platform is sorely needed.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 04, 2017, 10:12:16 AM
Why is that the default liberal response to any problem is to compare it to something a conservative did? Like everyone is on a team

Interesting observation. I'd say the same is true of conservatives when the debate is about Trump's actions. Trump himself recalls campaign trail rhetoric slamming Hillary or Obama to deflect tough questions about borderline indefensible policies.  It seems like a cornerstone of modern American conservatism is enjoying liberal outrage.  This is why a moderate platform is sorely needed.

Exactly, and HRC was a moderate. In 4 years they'll get Bernie Sanders or someone further to the left as an answer to this POS.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 04, 2017, 11:30:09 AM
Why is that the default liberal response to any problem is to compare it to something a conservative did? Like everyone is on a team

Interesting observation. I'd say the same is true of conservatives when the debate is about Trump's actions. Trump himself recalls campaign trail rhetoric slamming Hillary or Obama to deflect tough questions about borderline indefensible policies.  It seems like a cornerstone of modern American conservatism is enjoying liberal outrage.  This is why a moderate platform is sorely needed.

Exactly, and HRC was a moderate. In 4 years they'll get Bernie Sanders or someone further to the left as an answer to this POS.

Yeah, HRC was a moderate and Trump's policies are practically indefensible. Why, he wants to cut taxes and repeal a bill whereby the government forces its citizens subjects to enter into private contracts and control the border. It's like Hitler, nearly.

I'd say I find it amazing but I don't find it amazing how libs invariably describe themselves as moderate and anyone who disagrees with their moderation as a radical right wing nutjob.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Gray Chudney on June 04, 2017, 11:41:59 AM
Why is that the default liberal response to any problem is to compare it to something a conservative did? Like everyone is on a team

Interesting observation. I'd say the same is true of conservatives when the debate is about Trump's actions. Trump himself recalls campaign trail rhetoric slamming Hillary or Obama to deflect tough questions about borderline indefensible policies.  It seems like a cornerstone of modern American conservatism is enjoying liberal outrage.  This is why a moderate platform is sorely needed.

Exactly, and HRC was a moderate. In 4 years they'll get Bernie Sanders or someone further to the left as an answer to this POS.

Yeah, HRC was a moderate and Trump's policies are practically indefensible. Why, he wants to cut taxes and repeal a bill whereby the government forces its citizens subjects to enter into private contracts and control the border. It's like Hitler, nearly.

I'd say I find it amazing but I don't find it amazing how libs invariably describe themselves as moderate and anyone who disagrees with their moderation as a radical right wing nutjob.
Taxes and healthcare are two areas where policy is defensible. Climate change denial, disruption of world order, etc. are hard to defend.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: ras on June 04, 2017, 11:52:57 AM
I find it ironic that she claims the Trump family is ruining her career. She ruined her career w that stunt. I also think there are more Trump supporters than it seems. It's almost like preelection. Reading the he media, you would think 90 % of Americans are anti Trump. Amy Schumar had a performance where she said bad things against Trump and a lot of people left her show and she lost fans.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: mjmaherjr on June 04, 2017, 11:56:44 AM
I find it ironic that she claims the Trump family is ruining her career. She ruined her career w that stunt. I also think there are more Trump supporters than it seems. It's almost like preelection. Reading the he media, you would think 90 % of Americans are anti Trump. Amy Schumar had a performance where she said bad things against Trump and a lot of people left her show and she lost fans.
I know someone on long island who put a trump bumper sticker on their SUV and in 1 week 2 people scratched their car with I guess their keys.

Freaking crazy. There are definitely people I know who voted for Trump and dont tell anyone because some people get so nuts about it
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Marillac on June 04, 2017, 01:02:39 PM
Why is that the default liberal response to any problem is to compare it to something a conservative did? Like everyone is on a team

Interesting observation. I'd say the same is true of conservatives when the debate is about Trump's actions. Trump himself recalls campaign trail rhetoric slamming Hillary or Obama to deflect tough questions about borderline indefensible policies.  It seems like a cornerstone of modern American conservatism is enjoying liberal outrage.  This is why a moderate platform is sorely needed.

Exactly, and HRC was a moderate. In 4 years they'll get Bernie Sanders or someone further to the left as an answer to this POS.

Funny, because Trump is a direct result of HRC and her minions fixing the primary against a man who would have mopped the floor with him. The Democratic Party eliminated any chance of its registered voters (people like you)  electing the democratic candidate because they didn't trust their intelligence. Read the DNC lawsuit.

Keep analyzing all of his hand gestures and tweets ad nauseum and going down the Russia rabbit hole and he'll serve eight years. Polls will never measure how well a conservative candidate will do in this new era of politics, because the cucks and sissies will label anyone with even the mildest show of support for Trump a racist, misogynist nazi in an effort to prove their virtue and moral makeup to their fellow cucks and sissies.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 04, 2017, 01:05:21 PM
I find it ironic that she claims the Trump family is ruining her career. She ruined her career w that stunt. I also think there are more Trump supporters than it seems. It's almost like preelection. Reading the he media, you would think 90 % of Americans are anti Trump. Amy Schumar had a performance where she said bad things against Trump and a lot of people left her show and she lost fans.
I know someone on long island who put a trump bumper sticker on their SUV and in 1 week 2 people scratched their car with I guess their keys.

Freaking crazy. There are definitely people I know who voted for Trump and dont tell anyone because some people get so nuts about it

Because it's the same as telling people you'll believe anything.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: erickthered on June 04, 2017, 02:08:54 PM
Much like the yes we can bull$&@! From the Piece of. S$&@ b Hussein
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 04, 2017, 03:48:18 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 04, 2017, 04:38:05 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 04, 2017, 05:00:14 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Lefties are way smarter, just ask them!!!
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 04, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Lefties are way smarter, just ask them!!!

Don't hurt yourself.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 04, 2017, 08:46:59 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 04, 2017, 09:04:35 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Lefties are way smarter, just ask them!!!

Don't hurt yourself.

Doing what?  Calling out libtards like you.  Nah, I think I will be ok
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 04, 2017, 09:27:02 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 04, 2017, 09:27:42 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Lefties are way smarter, just ask them!!!

Don't hurt yourself.

Doing what?  Calling out libtards like you.  Nah, I think I will be ok

Doing you Pete. You dumb shit.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 05, 2017, 09:18:10 AM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 05, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Lefties are way smarter, just ask them!!!

Don't hurt yourself.

Doing what?  Calling out libtards like you.  Nah, I think I will be ok

Doing you Pete. You dumb shit.

Got your panties all in a wad again didn't you snowflake??? 
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Marillac on June 05, 2017, 02:45:11 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Funny, because when everyone says you're posting like a nitwit, you don't stop.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 05, 2017, 03:37:24 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 05, 2017, 04:40:45 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?

I don't doubt that your entire understanding of natural history boils down to vague recollections of the lunatic beliefs of some washed up baseball player. What did Jake Gibbs have to say about the Pleistocene Epoch? Did Horace Clarke have anything to say about punctuated equilibrium? Did you ever read Tom Tresh's review of Darwin on Trial. Really fascinating stuff. 

Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 05, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?

I don't doubt that your entire understanding of natural history boils down to vague recollections of the lunatic beliefs of some washed up baseball player. What did Jake Gibbs have to say about the Pleistocene Epoch? Did Horace Clarke have anything to say about punctuated equilibrium? Did you ever read Tom Tresh's review of Darwin on Trial. Really fascinating stuff. 


Or Trump's anything. I gotchya. Good point. BS celebrities don't know a damn thing.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 05, 2017, 08:51:05 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?

I don't doubt that your entire understanding of natural history boils down to vague recollections of the lunatic beliefs of some washed up baseball player. What did Jake Gibbs have to say about the Pleistocene Epoch? Did Horace Clarke have anything to say about punctuated equilibrium? Did you ever read Tom Tresh's review of Darwin on Trial. Really fascinating stuff. 


Or Trump's anything.

Or Trump's anything what. You've descended from spouting nonsense into complete incoherence. Maybe go have a lie down.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 05, 2017, 10:26:05 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?

I don't doubt that your entire understanding of natural history boils down to vague recollections of the lunatic beliefs of some washed up baseball player. What did Jake Gibbs have to say about the Pleistocene Epoch? Did Horace Clarke have anything to say about punctuated equilibrium? Did you ever read Tom Tresh's review of Darwin on Trial. Really fascinating stuff. 


Or Trump's anything.

Or Trump's anything what. You've descended from spouting nonsense into complete incoherence. Maybe go have a lie down.

If you actually understand Trump, congrats you're amazing.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: redstorm212 on June 05, 2017, 10:34:17 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?

I don't doubt that your entire understanding of natural history boils down to vague recollections of the lunatic beliefs of some washed up baseball player. What did Jake Gibbs have to say about the Pleistocene Epoch? Did Horace Clarke have anything to say about punctuated equilibrium? Did you ever read Tom Tresh's review of Darwin on Trial. Really fascinating stuff. 


Or Trump's anything.

Or Trump's anything what. You've descended from spouting nonsense into complete incoherence. Maybe go have a lie down.

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive." -POTUS
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 05, 2017, 11:51:02 PM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?

I don't doubt that your entire understanding of natural history boils down to vague recollections of the lunatic beliefs of some washed up baseball player. What did Jake Gibbs have to say about the Pleistocene Epoch? Did Horace Clarke have anything to say about punctuated equilibrium? Did you ever read Tom Tresh's review of Darwin on Trial. Really fascinating stuff. 


Or Trump's anything.

Or Trump's anything what. You've descended from spouting nonsense into complete incoherence. Maybe go have a lie down.

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive." -POTUS

Yea, that's absolute f'n nonsense, but that's just one thing he said over a year ago. Let's see if he ever slips up again.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: SJUFAN on June 06, 2017, 01:36:57 AM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Why say its a hoax? There was the Petition Project in 1997 but i would think it's fair to say that is outdated. Do you believe the more recent 97% Consensus on Global warming being caused by humans has no merit? Just curious how you came to that position.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 06, 2017, 06:57:20 AM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Yea, it's fake science. This is why the right is branded as dumb. They've earned it. At least they've earned something.

Yeah, science: man has sinned against the earth mother Gaia and we're all going to drown in a big flood unless we atone by buying carbon offsets. Cool story bro, but I like the old testament version better, at least there were cute little animals in that one.

When everyone says you're drunk, sit down.

Is that what you do when everyone says you're a dunce?

Real science comprises the belief that a barely sentient life form called homo sapiens on a speck of dust called earth hurtling through a galaxy called the Milky way in an infinite universe in a universe of infinite universes can only save itself by tithing and regulating cow farts. Seriously dood, you might as well paint your face, put on a loincloth and go outside in the backyard and sacrifice a chicken.

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because they're not the bible. Fake science?

I don't doubt that your entire understanding of natural history boils down to vague recollections of the lunatic beliefs of some washed up baseball player. What did Jake Gibbs have to say about the Pleistocene Epoch? Did Horace Clarke have anything to say about punctuated equilibrium? Did you ever read Tom Tresh's review of Darwin on Trial. Really fascinating stuff. 


Or Trump's anything.

Or Trump's anything what. You've descended from spouting nonsense into complete incoherence. Maybe go have a lie down.

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive." -POTUS

It's just one non sequitur after another with you people.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 06, 2017, 07:55:14 AM
Climate change denial

Climate change is the biggest hoax since the Shroud of Turin.

Why say its a hoax? There was the Petition Project in 1997 but i would think it's fair to say that is outdated. Do you believe the more recent 97% Consensus on Global warming being caused by humans has no merit? Just curious how you came to that position.

Trump provides the only news source a Republican needs.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 06, 2017, 08:16:42 AM
Why say its a hoax? There was the Petition Project in 1997 but i would think it's fair to say that is outdated. Do you believe the more recent 97% Consensus on Global warming being caused by humans has no merit? Just curious how you came to that position.

In the first place I don't believe there's a 97 percent consensus on global warming - they don't call it global warming anymore by the way, they call it climate change, because the warming stopped -  and even if there were I'd think it meaningless. There used to be a 97 percent consensus that the earth was the center of the universe and that there be monsters here at the end of the flat earth; so I don't care about consensus, even if it exists and it doesn't, and don't bother appending a link to some story that says the opposite because I've read them and the numbers are fudged.

I'm not expert about natural history, but I do know that the earth has been warming for 10 thousand years, since the last great ice age. I know that before that - before SUVs and cow farts - it was pretty warm, since there are aquatic marine fossils in the polar ice caps. I know that 150 years ago - right around the time we started keeping temperature records - the earth emerged from the Little Ice Age that followed the Medieval Warming period and that the way you emerge from an ice age is - wait for it - it gets warmer. Consider: if you started taking the temperature in your back yard in February and it averaged 20 degrees and in March it averaged 30 degrees and in April 60 degrees and in June 70 degrees without further information you'd predict that the temperature in your backyard would be 180 degrees in November and WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. And you'd go outside and sacrifice a chicken to the weather gods, except there's no god anymore and odds are you need a permit to keep chickens, must less process them.

(Did you know that in Nixon's last state of the union address he was set to propose a US Soviet program of countermeasures to combat the coming ice age? The were removed at the last minute. These included building a giant dam across the Bering Sea to keep the freezing arctic waters out of the Pacific and a proposal to cover the ice caps in soot, black being attractive to heat. This was 40 years ago, as many years from today as Nixon was from Dachau and 100 years after the devil's great invention, the combustion engine. Climate "science" has gone in 50 years from predicting an ice age to predicting an inferno, not to worry though they have a fool proof plan to combat either contingency.)

So I guess it fair to say in the first place that I don't believe the science.

In the second, it seems to me oddly coincidental and a might peculiar that the very things that the left find abhorrent about western civilization - corporations, capitalism, individual liberty, progress, the usual bugbears - are the very things that cause man made climate change, and that the antidotes to AGW are the very things socialists would advocate for in its absence: more and bigger government; more and greater regulation; less freedom; less comfort; more sacrifice for the common good. It's uncanny. The very things the left rails against are the very things that are going to destroy the planet and the only thing that will save the planet is: their political agenda wrapped up in a nice little altruistic bow designed to make the armchair virtue signalers feel oh so very good about themselves and their sacrifices. #savingtheplanet #prius #solarpanels

In the third place - and this one is strange to even me - is the parallel between global warming and other flood myths: man failure to atone for his sins causes an angry god to bring the waters to cleanse the earth.

A charitable man gave away everything he had to the animals. His family deserted him, but when he gave his last meal to the god Ouende, Ouende rewarded him with three handfuls of flour which renewed itself and produced even greater riches. Then Ouende advised him to leave the area, and sent six months of rain to destroy his selfish neighbors. The descendants of the rich man became the present human race.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

Every culture in the world has a flood myth. That's the mandingo's. Now the post moderns have one too and it fits the narrative: man is the villain of the post modern world.

And finally - because I'm even starting to bore myself - I don't know a lot of things for sure but I know this: everything everyone says most of the time is false and the louder and more vehement they are about its truth the more likely it is to be a lie. 

The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand. The idea that he can control them is laughable and the only thing more absurd is the idea that it matters.

Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 06, 2017, 08:20:36 AM
Trump provides the only news source a Republican needs.

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Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 06, 2017, 08:48:15 AM
Why say its a hoax? There was the Petition Project in 1997 but i would think it's fair to say that is outdated. Do you believe the more recent 97% Consensus on Global warming being caused by humans has no merit? Just curious how you came to that position.

In the first place I don't believe there's a 97 percent consensus on global warming - they don't call it global warming anymore by the way, they call it climate change, because the warming stopped -  and even if there were I'd think it meaningless. There used to be a 97 percent consensus that the earth was the center of the universe and that there be monsters here at the end of the flat earth; so I don't care about consensus, even if it exists and it doesn't, and don't bother appending a link to some story that says the opposite because I've read them and the numbers are fudged.

I'm not expert about natural history, but I do know that the earth has been warming for 10 thousand years, since the last great ice age. I know that before that - before SUVs and cow farts - it was pretty warm, since there are aquatic marine fossils in the polar ice caps. I know that 150 years ago - right around the time we started keeping temperature records - the earth emerged from the Little Ice Age that followed the Medieval Warming period and that the way you emerge from an ice age is - wait for it - it gets warmer. Consider: if you started taking the temperature in your back yard in February and it averaged 20 degrees and in March it averaged 30 degrees and in April 60 degrees and in June 70 degrees without further information you'd predict that the temperature in your backyard would be 180 degrees in November and WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. And you'd go outside and sacrifice a chicken to the weather gods, except there's no god anymore and odds are you need a permit to keep chickens, must less process them.

(Did you know that in Nixon's last state of the union address he was set to propose a US Soviet program of countermeasures to combat the coming ice age? The were removed at the last minute. These included building a giant dam across the Bering Sea to keep the freezing arctic waters out of the Pacific and a proposal to cover the ice caps in soot, black being attractive to heat. This was 40 years ago, as many years from today as Nixon was from Dachau and 100 years after the devil's great invention, the combustion engine. Climate "science" has gone in 50 years from predicting an ice age to predicting an inferno, not to worry though they have a fool proof plan to combat either contingency.)

So I guess it fair to say in the first place that I don't believe the science.

In the second, it seems to me oddly coincidental and a might peculiar that the very things that the left find abhorrent about western civilization - corporations, capitalism, individual liberty, progress, the usual bugbears - are the very things that cause man made climate change, and that the antidotes to AGW are the very things socialists would advocate for in its absence: more and bigger government; more and greater regulation; less freedom; less comfort; more sacrifice for the common good. It's uncanny. The very things the left rails against are the very things that are going to destroy the planet and the only thing that will save the planet is: their political agenda wrapped up in a nice little altruistic bow designed to make the armchair virtue signalers feel oh so very good about themselves and their sacrifices. #savingtheplanet #prius #solarpanels

In the third place - and this one is strange to even me - is the parallel between global warming and other flood myths: man failure to atone for his sins causes an angry god to bring the waters to cleanse the earth.

A charitable man gave away everything he had to the animals. His family deserted him, but when he gave his last meal to the god Ouende, Ouende rewarded him with three handfuls of flour which renewed itself and produced even greater riches. Then Ouende advised him to leave the area, and sent six months of rain to destroy his selfish neighbors. The descendants of the rich man became the present human race.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

Every culture in the world has a flood myth. That's the mandingo's. Now the post moderns have one too and it fits the narrative: man is the villain of the post modern world.

And finally - because I'm even starting to bore myself - I don't know a lot of things for sure but I know this: everything everyone says most of the time is false and the louder and more vehement they are about its truth the more likely it is to be a lie. 

The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand. The idea that he can control them is laughable and the only thing more absurd is the idea that it matters.


Bullshit. All of it. As always.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: SJUFAN on June 06, 2017, 08:03:24 PM
The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand.

You make some valid points. One can argue that climate change isn't an exact science, however ozone depletion seems to be a more widely excepted concept. That is not caused by cow farts, but man made halocarbons, allegedly. Now one could also be skeptical about the science behind that as well but what cannot be debated is that fossil fuels are not infinite. It would be in the best interest for us to invest in reusable energy. If not for climate change, or ozone depletion, then for national security. It also wouldn't hurt to be in the fore front of the future of the energy industry.

I'm not a fan of government using policy to destroy a industry because it may not align with their personal agenda especially while ignoring the families that their policies are harming when it may not even be necessary. There is a happy medium, it would be nice if our leaders found it.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 06, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand.

You make some valid points. One can argue that climate change isn't an exact science, however ozone depletion seems to be a more widely excepted concept. That is not caused by cow farts, but man made halocarbons, allegedly. Now one could also be skeptical about the science behind that as well but what cannot be debated is that fossil fuels are not infinite. It would be in the best interest for us to invest in reusable energy. If not for climate change, or ozone depletion, then for national security. It also wouldn't hurt to be in the fore front of the future of the energy industry.

I'm not a fan of government using policy to destroy a industry because it may not align with their personal agenda especially while ignoring the families that their policies are harming when it may not even be necessary. There is a happy medium, it would be nice if our leaders found it.


Yes, look, absolutely, my skepticism extends in both (all) directions. All things considered I'd be all in favor of solar power, if it worked. I'd be all in favor of tidal power, if it worked. And I'd be more in favor of it if those opposed to fossil fuels were in favor of nuclear power, which works, which supplies 70 percent of the power in even a shiity fvcking horrible country like France, without a single attributable death. But there's no one on the left who advocates for that, a safe cheap abundant power source, because it conflicts with their agenda.   

There was not too long ago (geologically speaking) a vast chestnut forest spreading from Maine to Michigan that had supported a population of native americans forever. Some rich bastard, a vanderbilt or something, returning in the 19th century from vacation in Japan, imported a Nipon chestnut variety and planted it on fifth avenue; his specimens destroyed that ancient forest in 25 years, containing as it did a blight to which the US variety was not immune. The Great Plains were once a great primeval forest that was destroyed by slashing and burning by native peoples over the thousands of years. All of these behaviors of course effect the environment and eventually the climate. But: is that not evolution? Is that not science? Is not the death if those chestnuts the survival of the fittest? 

Question: why is the way the world is RIGHT NOW the best way the world is. Why is not something that occurs in the course of things not better? To think otherwise seems to me the stupidest conclusions. If the theory of evolution is true - and there's no evidence that it it is and in fact there's evidence that it's not - then why is what is what should have been.  What isn't, it just is.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Marillac on June 07, 2017, 04:54:40 PM
The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand.

You make some valid points. One can argue that climate change isn't an exact science, however ozone depletion seems to be a more widely excepted concept. That is not caused by cow farts, but man made halocarbons, allegedly. Now one could also be skeptical about the science behind that as well but what cannot be debated is that fossil fuels are not infinite. It would be in the best interest for us to invest in reusable energy. If not for climate change, or ozone depletion, then for national security. It also wouldn't hurt to be in the fore front of the future of the energy industry.

I'm not a fan of government using policy to destroy a industry because it may not align with their personal agenda especially while ignoring the families that their policies are harming when it may not even be necessary. There is a happy medium, it would be nice if our leaders found it.


Yes, look, absolutely, my skepticism extends in both (all) directions. All things considered I'd be all in favor of solar power, if it worked. I'd be all in favor of tidal power, if it worked. And I'd be more in favor of it if those opposed to fossil fuels were in favor of nuclear power, which works, which supplies 70 percent of the power in even a shiity fvcking horrible country like France, without a single attributable death. But there's no one on the left who advocates for that, a safe cheap abundant power source, because it conflicts with their agenda.   

There was not too long ago (geologically speaking) a vast chestnut forest spreading from Maine to Michigan that had supported a population of native americans forever. Some rich bastard, a vanderbilt or something, returning in the 19th century from vacation in Japan, imported a Nipon chestnut variety and planted it on fifth avenue; his specimens destroyed that ancient forest in 25 years, containing as it did a blight to which the US variety was not immune. The Great Plains were once a great primeval forest that was destroyed by slashing and burning by native peoples over the thousands of years. All of these behaviors of course effect the environment and eventually the climate. But: is that not evolution? Is that not science? Is not the death if those chestnuts the survival of the fittest? 

Question: why is the way the world is RIGHT NOW the best way the world is. Why is not something that occurs in the course of things not better? To think otherwise seems to me the stupidest conclusions. If the theory of evolution is true - and there's no evidence that it it is and in fact there's evidence that it's not - then why is what is what should have been.  What isn't, it just is.

Natural selection and evolution are things of the past. Man now dictates everything for better or worse.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Ez_Uzi on June 07, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
Why say its a hoax? There was the Petition Project in 1997 but i would think it's fair to say that is outdated. Do you believe the more recent 97% Consensus on Global warming being caused by humans has no merit? Just curious how you came to that position.

In the first place I don't believe there's a 97 percent consensus on global warming - they don't call it global warming anymore by the way, they call it climate change, because the warming stopped -  and even if there were I'd think it meaningless. There used to be a 97 percent consensus that the earth was the center of the universe and that there be monsters here at the end of the flat earth; so I don't care about consensus, even if it exists and it doesn't, and don't bother appending a link to some story that says the opposite because I've read them and the numbers are fudged.

I'm not expert about natural history, but I do know that the earth has been warming for 10 thousand years, since the last great ice age. I know that before that - before SUVs and cow farts - it was pretty warm, since there are aquatic marine fossils in the polar ice caps. I know that 150 years ago - right around the time we started keeping temperature records - the earth emerged from the Little Ice Age that followed the Medieval Warming period and that the way you emerge from an ice age is - wait for it - it gets warmer. Consider: if you started taking the temperature in your back yard in February and it averaged 20 degrees and in March it averaged 30 degrees and in April 60 degrees and in June 70 degrees without further information you'd predict that the temperature in your backyard would be 180 degrees in November and WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. And you'd go outside and sacrifice a chicken to the weather gods, except there's no god anymore and odds are you need a permit to keep chickens, must less process them.

(Did you know that in Nixon's last state of the union address he was set to propose a US Soviet program of countermeasures to combat the coming ice age? The were removed at the last minute. These included building a giant dam across the Bering Sea to keep the freezing arctic waters out of the Pacific and a proposal to cover the ice caps in soot, black being attractive to heat. This was 40 years ago, as many years from today as Nixon was from Dachau and 100 years after the devil's great invention, the combustion engine. Climate "science" has gone in 50 years from predicting an ice age to predicting an inferno, not to worry though they have a fool proof plan to combat either contingency.)

So I guess it fair to say in the first place that I don't believe the science.

In the second, it seems to me oddly coincidental and a might peculiar that the very things that the left find abhorrent about western civilization - corporations, capitalism, individual liberty, progress, the usual bugbears - are the very things that cause man made climate change, and that the antidotes to AGW are the very things socialists would advocate for in its absence: more and bigger government; more and greater regulation; less freedom; less comfort; more sacrifice for the common good. It's uncanny. The very things the left rails against are the very things that are going to destroy the planet and the only thing that will save the planet is: their political agenda wrapped up in a nice little altruistic bow designed to make the armchair virtue signalers feel oh so very good about themselves and their sacrifices. #savingtheplanet #prius #solarpanels

In the third place - and this one is strange to even me - is the parallel between global warming and other flood myths: man failure to atone for his sins causes an angry god to bring the waters to cleanse the earth.

A charitable man gave away everything he had to the animals. His family deserted him, but when he gave his last meal to the god Ouende, Ouende rewarded him with three handfuls of flour which renewed itself and produced even greater riches. Then Ouende advised him to leave the area, and sent six months of rain to destroy his selfish neighbors. The descendants of the rich man became the present human race.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

Every culture in the world has a flood myth. That's the mandingo's. Now the post moderns have one too and it fits the narrative: man is the villain of the post modern world.

And finally - because I'm even starting to bore myself - I don't know a lot of things for sure but I know this: everything everyone says most of the time is false and the louder and more vehement they are about its truth the more likely it is to be a lie. 

The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand. The idea that he can control them is laughable and the only thing more absurd is the idea that it matters.

A vulgar display of anecdotes but who cares:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4&t=109s
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 07, 2017, 05:57:01 PM
Why say its a hoax? There was the Petition Project in 1997 but i would think it's fair to say that is outdated. Do you believe the more recent 97% Consensus on Global warming being caused by humans has no merit? Just curious how you came to that position.

In the first place I don't believe there's a 97 percent consensus on global warming - they don't call it global warming anymore by the way, they call it climate change, because the warming stopped -  and even if there were I'd think it meaningless. There used to be a 97 percent consensus that the earth was the center of the universe and that there be monsters here at the end of the flat earth; so I don't care about consensus, even if it exists and it doesn't, and don't bother appending a link to some story that says the opposite because I've read them and the numbers are fudged.

I'm not expert about natural history, but I do know that the earth has been warming for 10 thousand years, since the last great ice age. I know that before that - before SUVs and cow farts - it was pretty warm, since there are aquatic marine fossils in the polar ice caps. I know that 150 years ago - right around the time we started keeping temperature records - the earth emerged from the Little Ice Age that followed the Medieval Warming period and that the way you emerge from an ice age is - wait for it - it gets warmer. Consider: if you started taking the temperature in your back yard in February and it averaged 20 degrees and in March it averaged 30 degrees and in April 60 degrees and in June 70 degrees without further information you'd predict that the temperature in your backyard would be 180 degrees in November and WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. And you'd go outside and sacrifice a chicken to the weather gods, except there's no god anymore and odds are you need a permit to keep chickens, must less process them.

(Did you know that in Nixon's last state of the union address he was set to propose a US Soviet program of countermeasures to combat the coming ice age? The were removed at the last minute. These included building a giant dam across the Bering Sea to keep the freezing arctic waters out of the Pacific and a proposal to cover the ice caps in soot, black being attractive to heat. This was 40 years ago, as many years from today as Nixon was from Dachau and 100 years after the devil's great invention, the combustion engine. Climate "science" has gone in 50 years from predicting an ice age to predicting an inferno, not to worry though they have a fool proof plan to combat either contingency.)

So I guess it fair to say in the first place that I don't believe the science.

In the second, it seems to me oddly coincidental and a might peculiar that the very things that the left find abhorrent about western civilization - corporations, capitalism, individual liberty, progress, the usual bugbears - are the very things that cause man made climate change, and that the antidotes to AGW are the very things socialists would advocate for in its absence: more and bigger government; more and greater regulation; less freedom; less comfort; more sacrifice for the common good. It's uncanny. The very things the left rails against are the very things that are going to destroy the planet and the only thing that will save the planet is: their political agenda wrapped up in a nice little altruistic bow designed to make the armchair virtue signalers feel oh so very good about themselves and their sacrifices. #savingtheplanet #prius #solarpanels

In the third place - and this one is strange to even me - is the parallel between global warming and other flood myths: man failure to atone for his sins causes an angry god to bring the waters to cleanse the earth.

A charitable man gave away everything he had to the animals. His family deserted him, but when he gave his last meal to the god Ouende, Ouende rewarded him with three handfuls of flour which renewed itself and produced even greater riches. Then Ouende advised him to leave the area, and sent six months of rain to destroy his selfish neighbors. The descendants of the rich man became the present human race.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

Every culture in the world has a flood myth. That's the mandingo's. Now the post moderns have one too and it fits the narrative: man is the villain of the post modern world.

And finally - because I'm even starting to bore myself - I don't know a lot of things for sure but I know this: everything everyone says most of the time is false and the louder and more vehement they are about its truth the more likely it is to be a lie. 

The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand. The idea that he can control them is laughable and the only thing more absurd is the idea that it matters.

A vulgar display of anecdotes but who cares:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4&t=109s

Man was a genius... Liberals would stone and crucify him today for saying those things
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Pete88 on June 07, 2017, 05:57:55 PM
The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand.

You make some valid points. One can argue that climate change isn't an exact science, however ozone depletion seems to be a more widely excepted concept. That is not caused by cow farts, but man made halocarbons, allegedly. Now one could also be skeptical about the science behind that as well but what cannot be debated is that fossil fuels are not infinite. It would be in the best interest for us to invest in reusable energy. If not for climate change, or ozone depletion, then for national security. It also wouldn't hurt to be in the fore front of the future of the energy industry.

I'm not a fan of government using policy to destroy a industry because it may not align with their personal agenda especially while ignoring the families that their policies are harming when it may not even be necessary. There is a happy medium, it would be nice if our leaders found it.


Yes, look, absolutely, my skepticism extends in both (all) directions. All things considered I'd be all in favor of solar power, if it worked. I'd be all in favor of tidal power, if it worked. And I'd be more in favor of it if those opposed to fossil fuels were in favor of nuclear power, which works, which supplies 70 percent of the power in even a shiity fvcking horrible country like France, without a single attributable death. But there's no one on the left who advocates for that, a safe cheap abundant power source, because it conflicts with their agenda.   

There was not too long ago (geologically speaking) a vast chestnut forest spreading from Maine to Michigan that had supported a population of native americans forever. Some rich bastard, a vanderbilt or something, returning in the 19th century from vacation in Japan, imported a Nipon chestnut variety and planted it on fifth avenue; his specimens destroyed that ancient forest in 25 years, containing as it did a blight to which the US variety was not immune. The Great Plains were once a great primeval forest that was destroyed by slashing and burning by native peoples over the thousands of years. All of these behaviors of course effect the environment and eventually the climate. But: is that not evolution? Is that not science? Is not the death if those chestnuts the survival of the fittest? 

Question: why is the way the world is RIGHT NOW the best way the world is. Why is not something that occurs in the course of things not better? To think otherwise seems to me the stupidest conclusions. If the theory of evolution is true - and there's no evidence that it it is and in fact there's evidence that it's not - then why is what is what should have been.  What isn't, it just is.

Natural selection and evolution are things of the past. Man now dictates everything for better or worse.

Mighty high opinion you have of Man
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Gray Chudney on June 07, 2017, 06:41:18 PM
I was waiting for huge St. John's fan Ez_Uzi to return. Never once posted about anything other than politics on two boards.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Poison on June 08, 2017, 10:01:00 AM
The earth is a vast epochal system subject to forces man does not even understand.

You make some valid points. One can argue that climate change isn't an exact science, however ozone depletion seems to be a more widely excepted concept. That is not caused by cow farts, but man made halocarbons, allegedly. Now one could also be skeptical about the science behind that as well but what cannot be debated is that fossil fuels are not infinite. It would be in the best interest for us to invest in reusable energy. If not for climate change, or ozone depletion, then for national security. It also wouldn't hurt to be in the fore front of the future of the energy industry.

I'm not a fan of government using policy to destroy a industry because it may not align with their personal agenda especially while ignoring the families that their policies are harming when it may not even be necessary. There is a happy medium, it would be nice if our leaders found it.


Yes, look, absolutely, my skepticism extends in both (all) directions. All things considered I'd be all in favor of solar power, if it worked. I'd be all in favor of tidal power, if it worked. And I'd be more in favor of it if those opposed to fossil fuels were in favor of nuclear power, which works, which supplies 70 percent of the power in even a shiity fvcking horrible country like France, without a single attributable death. But there's no one on the left who advocates for that, a safe cheap abundant power source, because it conflicts with their agenda.   

There was not too long ago (geologically speaking) a vast chestnut forest spreading from Maine to Michigan that had supported a population of native americans forever. Some rich bastard, a vanderbilt or something, returning in the 19th century from vacation in Japan, imported a Nipon chestnut variety and planted it on fifth avenue; his specimens destroyed that ancient forest in 25 years, containing as it did a blight to which the US variety was not immune. The Great Plains were once a great primeval forest that was destroyed by slashing and burning by native peoples over the thousands of years. All of these behaviors of course effect the environment and eventually the climate. But: is that not evolution? Is that not science? Is not the death if those chestnuts the survival of the fittest? 

Question: why is the way the world is RIGHT NOW the best way the world is. Why is not something that occurs in the course of things not better? To think otherwise seems to me the stupidest conclusions. If the theory of evolution is true - and there's no evidence that it it is and in fact there's evidence that it's not - then why is what is what should have been.  What isn't, it just is.

Natural selection and evolution are things of the past. Man now dictates everything for better or worse.

Mighty high opinion you have of Man

God is watching you Pete. Always.
Title: Re: Kathy Griffin
Post by: Foad on June 08, 2017, 04:53:19 PM
Natural selection and evolution are things of the past. Man now dictates everything for better or worse.

It's an interesting proposition. Evolution is an organism's reponse to environmental stress. A species that evolved to the point that it could control its environment would insure its viability.

That squares with the modern idea that the the world is now the way the world is supposed to be. Which would explain why man wants to control the climate and maintain the physical environment and save species that otherwise would become extinct. Because he believes that the his evolutionary state is the apex and that the way the world is now is the way to perpetuate that apex.

However.

There are in the Pacific Northwest somewhere two species of owl that inhabit a dwindling forest environment. One of the owl species is large and aggressive, the other is small and passive. Periodically federal environmental authorities go into the woods and hunt the large aggressive species and shotgun them to insure the survival of the smaller strain. That's man being the natural selector. The problem with that is the butterfly effect: what if the large owl hosts a parasite that cures cancer or the smaller owl hosts one that causes it. Man is too stupid to conside the ramifications of that. But then on the other hand if a variation of homo sapiens exists that lessens the selection of homo sapiens the owl-driven variation of homo sapiens that survive the selection are more fit than those who don't. What came first, the owl or the egg. Which is the problem with evolution: it's a very circular theory, which makes the absence of evidence for it - and sometimes the falsification of evidence for it - troubling.

And then at the other extreme: what's the evolutionary purpose of homo sapiens creating in the laboratory stockpiles of disease that could wipe out homo sapiens. What's the evolutionary purpose of the atomic bomb, an exchange of which would destroy the viability of the species that created it. Can man be smart enough to save the owls and stupid enough to mass produce anthrax and if so does that reveal an evolutionary purpose? Or is that just random bullshit and the Origin of Species a torpid adaptation of the Book of Genesis. I don't know. We could use some bulk up front though.