Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #680 on: January 28, 2015, 06:49:04 PM »
There is a large percentage of fans who understand Lavin took over a program in shambles, and had to start from scratch, and Rome was not built in a day. Respect has to be earned. We are relevant again, after ten plus years of failure. Just because the same few posters keep banging the fire Lavin drum does not mean that that is the consensus among the larger fan base.

Actually most of the fan base does think that.

At this time, a year ago, a majority of the board wanted Lavin fired.
Further, of 100 respondents, only 30 said they wanted Lavin as the coach next season.

Stop acting like the majority of fans want to keep Lavin forever and ever.  That's simply not true.  Many are just rooting for this likeable class of seniors, but in the back of their minds, aren't too fond of Lavin.
And for good reason.

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8476.0

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8466.msg185467#msg185467

Nope. Unless someone just voted, it looks like a majority wanted him to stay at this time last year, and that was when they had just lost 4/5 in a row to open up big east play. 

The other poll asks if you would rather have lavin or shaka smart, among other things, which isn't really the same, because of course we would rather have guys like Donovan or even Smart.  That doesn't mean those same people want lavin fired, because Smart probably isn't attainable, and even if he was the administration would probably screw it up.  Plus, 3 people in that poll said they would rather have a guy with a 7-13 record at USF, so we probably shouldn't put much weight in what they say.

Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #681 on: January 28, 2015, 06:56:47 PM »
There is a large percentage of fans who understand Lavin took over a program in shambles, and had to start from scratch, and Rome was not built in a day. Respect has to be earned. We are relevant again, after ten plus years of failure. Just because the same few posters keep banging the fire Lavin drum does not mean that that is the consensus among the larger fan base.

Actually most of the fan base does think that.

At this time, a year ago, a majority of the board wanted Lavin fired.
Further, of 100 respondents, only 30 said they wanted Lavin as the coach next season.

Stop acting like the majority of fans want to keep Lavin forever and ever.  That's simply not true.  Many are just rooting for this likeable class of seniors, but in the back of their minds, aren't too fond of Lavin.
And for good reason.

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8476.0

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8466.msg185467#msg185467

I think the fact that more people wanted Lavin than Shaka Smart is pretty crippling to the point you were trying to make.

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #682 on: January 28, 2015, 07:00:46 PM »
There is a large percentage of fans who understand Lavin took over a program in shambles, and had to start from scratch, and Rome was not built in a day. Respect has to be earned. We are relevant again, after ten plus years of failure. Just because the same few posters keep banging the fire Lavin drum does not mean that that is the consensus among the larger fan base.

Actually most of the fan base does think that.

At this time, a year ago, a majority of the board wanted Lavin fired.
Further, of 100 respondents, only 30 said they wanted Lavin as the coach next season.

Stop acting like the majority of fans want to keep Lavin forever and ever.  That's simply not true.  Many are just rooting for this likeable class of seniors, but in the back of their minds, aren't too fond of Lavin.
And for good reason.

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8476.0

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8466.msg185467#msg185467

Nope. Unless someone just voted, it looks like a majority wanted him to stay at this time last year, and that was when they had just lost 4/5 in a row to open up big east play. 

The other poll asks if you would rather have lavin or shaka smart, among other things, which isn't really the same, because of course we would rather have guys like Donovan or even Smart.  That doesn't mean those same people want lavin fired, because Smart probably isn't attainable, and even if he was the administration would probably screw it up.  Plus, 3 people in that poll said they would rather have a guy with a 7-13 record at USF, so we probably shouldn't put much weight in what they say.

Right, so because USF is struggling Antigua isn't a good coach?   He's been there 6 months!     

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #683 on: January 28, 2015, 07:03:30 PM »
There is a large percentage of fans who understand Lavin took over a program in shambles, and had to start from scratch, and Rome was not built in a day. Respect has to be earned. We are relevant again, after ten plus years of failure. Just because the same few posters keep banging the fire Lavin drum does not mean that that is the consensus among the larger fan base.

Actually most of the fan base does think that.

At this time, a year ago, a majority of the board wanted Lavin fired.
Further, of 100 respondents, only 30 said they wanted Lavin as the coach next season.

Stop acting like the majority of fans want to keep Lavin forever and ever.  That's simply not true.  Many are just rooting for this likeable class of seniors, but in the back of their minds, aren't too fond of Lavin.
And for good reason.

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8476.0

http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8466.msg185467#msg185467

I think the fact that more people wanted Lavin than Shaka Smart is pretty crippling to the point you were trying to make.

Not really.  Many people realize that Shaka isn't a viable option.   
The point was - and remains- that many St Johns would rather see someone else coaching the team.    It's not a small group of outspoken crazies. 
I admit that I go over the top in my criticism of Lavin,  I play a crazy person on the internet.  It's not like Im alone in that.
But plenty of rational fans dislike Lavin as well.     They just continue to root for a team they love, and would rather not talk about it as often as we do.
But that doesn't change the fact that they don't like SL.

Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #684 on: January 28, 2015, 07:16:39 PM »
Since you guys can't  put it together. St Johns can afford to pay this huge staff anymore, why is Keady  making 300,000? Either way, this Lavin experiment is over shortly
Paid quite highly he is

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #685 on: January 28, 2015, 07:37:02 PM »
If we would have beaten Duke. Baldi would be gone by now. He would be bored and bothering other people.

Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #686 on: January 28, 2015, 07:57:38 PM »
If we would have beaten Duke. Baldi would be gone by now. He would be bored and bothering other people.
One point is indisputable.  There is a definite reason admin is holding off on any extensions.


I do not have the reason, and there are numerous theories.  Baldi's is as plausible as any I've seen.  Any posters in the know probably wouldn't state the plan even if they knew it.  And I like that because I would not want any deep distractions for this season.  Our guys deserve that.  Despite the latest bumps in the road, I think the guys will lift themselves out of the Beast hole and finish with a +.500 In Conf. record. I guesstimate 10-8. 




Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #687 on: January 28, 2015, 08:01:05 PM »
If we would have beaten Duke. Baldi would be gone by now. He would be bored and bothering other people.

I was saddened most by this part, even more so than losing the game.

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #688 on: January 28, 2015, 09:46:14 PM »
Nail in the coffin?

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #689 on: January 28, 2015, 09:59:34 PM »
If the Johnnies are serious about this, they'll go hard after Smart or one of the other hot names out there.

Shaka Smart has a ridiculous contract and a top 25 team. Why would he want a demotion

He's not coming here but hardly ridiculous contract.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/shaka-smarts-new-contract-at-virginia-commonwealth/

http://wtvr.com/2014/03/24/coach-shaka-smart-leaving-for-marquette/
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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #690 on: January 28, 2015, 11:07:00 PM »
Under no circumstances should he come back next year. I will take anyone as a replacement

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #691 on: January 28, 2015, 11:13:19 PM »
Under no circumstances should he come back next year. I will take anyone as a replacement

Yes

Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #692 on: January 28, 2015, 11:14:05 PM »
I want this bum gone!!!

Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #693 on: January 28, 2015, 11:23:31 PM »
Time for him to go. If it wasn't last year or this year, it'll never be with this guy. The talent is there. Just doesn't do anything with it.

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #694 on: January 28, 2015, 11:24:55 PM »
I've reached the point where I'd get rid of him even if Diallo was committed here

Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #695 on: January 28, 2015, 11:25:27 PM »
He had Final Four talent at UCLA all he could manage were Sweet 16's, here he has Sweet 16 talent and all he can manage is NIT's.

Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #696 on: January 28, 2015, 11:27:25 PM »
If the Johnnies are serious about this, they'll go hard after Smart or one of the other hot names out there.

Shaka Smart has a ridiculous contract and a top 25 team. Why would he want a demotion

He's not coming here but hardly ridiculous contract.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/shaka-smarts-new-contract-at-virginia-commonwealth/

http://wtvr.com/2014/03/24/coach-shaka-smart-leaving-for-marquette/

Only job Shaka takes is UNC.
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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #697 on: January 28, 2015, 11:29:41 PM »
If the Johnnies are serious about this, they'll go hard after Smart or one of the other hot names out there.

Shaka Smart has a ridiculous contract and a top 25 team. Why would he want a demotion

He's not coming here but hardly ridiculous contract.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/shaka-smarts-new-contract-at-virginia-commonwealth/

http://wtvr.com/2014/03/24/coach-shaka-smart-leaving-for-marquette/

Only job Shaka takes is UNC.

Shaka Khan would be an improvement

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Re: Thanks Coach Lavin, good luck
« Reply #698 on: January 28, 2015, 11:31:12 PM »
If the Johnnies are serious about this, they'll go hard after Smart or one of the other hot names out there.

Shaka Smart has a ridiculous contract and a top 25 team. Why would he want a demotion

He's not coming here but hardly ridiculous contract.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/shaka-smarts-new-contract-at-virginia-commonwealth/

http://wtvr.com/2014/03/24/coach-shaka-smart-leaving-for-marquette/

Only job Shaka takes is UNC.

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