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Title: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on February 22, 2015, 03:00:50 PM
1. Rysheed and Chris stay for another year


2 That leads to Chieck Diallo coming (a point guard and playing with two of his OSNA friends) and a top five recruiting class....

3. Lovett comes and is eligible.

4 Starting five Jordan, Lovett, twin towers of Diallo and Chris and Sampson (and that's without the 7 foot Greek kid)

5. Challenging for a 2/3 seed by mid-year and for Big East title.  Minutes from Adonis off the bench and other bench contributions from Balamou, Henderson, Stewart and other recruits....(Italy, Greece, Belgium, transfers, JUCO's)

6.Program  firmly  back in shape for long term.

7. Things are looking up.  Coach and his team deserve extensions.

Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Celtics11 on February 22, 2015, 03:12:51 PM
Sounds more like dreaming than wishful thinking.  :)
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Wods317 on February 22, 2015, 03:16:14 PM
Yea if everything went perfect this could happen but nothing in life goes as perfectly planned. Hoping for a Big East title next year is setting yourself up for a let down. I think at best next year we are a bubble team going to March as we are now. I would sign up for that for next year and I think almost else would also with how much we are losing.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: 0404 on February 22, 2015, 03:17:20 PM
In addition to #5, don't forget Alibegovic.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on February 22, 2015, 03:19:52 PM
Absolutely correct.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: cjfish on February 22, 2015, 03:24:11 PM
as I have said before, Jordan and CO are back unless they flunk out, neither can play pro ball anywhere worthwhile YET.  Only problem is Diallo, when you are recruiting against Kentucky it is an unlikely scenario.  All else on your list is likely, except, of course, competing for title.  Ill take competing for top 3.  WHo knows with Euro kids, including Amar, could work our very well with some luck.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on February 22, 2015, 03:38:08 PM
If the Greek kid comes here I don't think he will be coming off the bench. Dude is supposed to be a lottery pick.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on February 22, 2015, 03:58:58 PM
I bet Diallo would like to play with his friends Balamou and Obeckpa....don't think he loves the idea of Kentucky platoon.  He loves new York and Coach Lavin.  We have a shot.  April is not that far away.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: JohnnyJungle on February 22, 2015, 04:13:00 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: 0404 on February 22, 2015, 04:14:28 PM
Any word on Mussini, Dave? I think he's my favorite target from what little I've seen.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: goredmen on February 22, 2015, 04:38:40 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.

So why did we get rid of Norm is continuity is key at the head coaching position? We could have hoped the bad got better with him too
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Wods317 on February 22, 2015, 04:52:15 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.

So why did we get rid of Norm is continuity is key at the head coaching position? We could have hoped the bad got better with him too

Norm never finished more then one game above .500 in 6 seasons. Let's be real here, things are far from perfect under Lavin but Norm was terrible.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: mjdinkins on February 22, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.

So why did we get rid of Norm is continuity is key at the head coaching position? We could have hoped the bad got better with him too

Norm never finished more then one game above .500 in 6 seasons. Let's be real here, things are far from perfect under Lavin but Norm was terrible.

I bet a guy like "goredmen" bitched incessantly about Norm, too. 

He'd probably complain about any coach roaming the sidelines.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: ras on February 22, 2015, 05:05:23 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.
what JUCO s are we considering ,who can help next year?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: JohnnyJungle on February 22, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
Any word on Mussini, Dave? I think he's my favorite target from what little I've seen.

I really don't know. Not familiar with his situation at all.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: JohnnyJungle on February 22, 2015, 08:18:19 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.
what JUCO s are we considering ,who can help next year?

I know they have their eye on a few. I haven't been too dialed in on St. John's recruiting outside of big 3 this season.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: prjohnnies on February 22, 2015, 08:34:20 PM
The only JUCO that has been prominently mentioned on this site and the other, who remains uncommitted, is Freeman.  His profile fits the bill for exactly what we need, but Zach B tweeted out a few weeks ago that both SJU and Seton Hall "appear" to have backed off, while Rutgers remains in pursuit.  Not sure how much truth there is or what the circumstances are.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Snazzy on February 22, 2015, 09:28:54 PM
IDK why they would stop recruiting Freeman. 6'7" guy that can rebound with a decent mid-range game .Would fit as a role player off the bench on the team really nicely. Could even be a realistic starter.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on February 22, 2015, 10:15:33 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.
I'm on the Malik train after your comments Dave. Do you think he'll grow a few more inches beyond these past few? We need the Pervis burst - lol
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: stjohnnie75 on February 22, 2015, 11:13:20 PM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.

Are we involved with either Malik Ellison or KJ Walton?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: goredmen on February 23, 2015, 03:22:19 AM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.

So why did we get rid of Norm is continuity is key at the head coaching position? We could have hoped the bad got better with him too

Norm never finished more then one game above .500 in 6 seasons. Let's be real here, things are far from perfect under Lavin but Norm was terrible.

I bet a guy like "goredmen" bitched incessantly about Norm, too. 

He'd probably complain about any coach roaming the sidelines.

Yeah I wasn't a huge Norm fan either, but who was? I was just merely pointing out how ridiculous of a statement that is that coaching stability is the most important thing in college basketball. If that was the case we would have never fired Norm and no coaches would ever be fired.

If you want to accept the mediocrity that is this program that's fine with me. I want this program to be great. I don't think Lavin is the guy that will make this program great. I'd love for him to prove me wrong. But to pass on rising stars like the Hurleys or whoever else in the name of "stability" is just asinine
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: JohnnyJungle on February 23, 2015, 10:19:08 AM
If St. John's wants him I'm pretty sure they have Lovett. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan and think his flaws are seriously masked on his internet presence. However he does have raw potential and its a risk I'd take at this point.

Cheick loves NY and might be the best thing St. John's has going for them. He's a simple kid and as long as he's playing, which he'd obviously do here, then he'll be happy.

Greek kid isn't bad, not super polished, but true centers rarely are. He'd be a good get but I think he's kind of a long shot at playing NCAA.

I love Sampson. He's the real deal and will have a career along the lines of D-Lo. It's so disappointing Briscoe didn't commit because this truly would have been one of the best backcourts in the country day 1.

I think sprinkle in a juco, transfer, or both and program is fine for next year. Continuity is key at the head coaching position and grass isn't any greener elsewhere. Just have to accept the bad with the good and hope the bad gets better.

My sleeper recruits are Malik Ellison and KJ Walton. Malik is going to be the steal of the spring for someone and Walton is a long shot to qualify which is why he's still on the board but he's a fantastic scorer. I'm not sure what's going on with Traci Carter. I'd prefer him over Lovett but maybe there isn't mutual interest.

Are we involved with either Malik Ellison or KJ Walton?

No
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on February 23, 2015, 12:41:37 PM
By the way, a good first step on all this would be getting in the tournament this year  A real chance to showcase how much our guys have improved during their St. John's stints (CO,  Phil, Sheed,Dom!!!!)
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: sjulaw1991 on February 23, 2015, 01:05:30 PM
I would venture to guess if Thon Maker reclassifys (looks likely) and commits to KY our odds go up.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on February 23, 2015, 01:14:02 PM
Agree....but one way or the other ,they'll have way too many bigs for our guy...he likes to play and is used to playing big minutes.....with us the only thing that will stop him from playing is foul trouble.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on February 25, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Need to focus the wishing on Saturday for now.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on February 25, 2015, 07:09:01 PM
OSNA's Yakwe is a potential recruit too.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 05, 2015, 09:00:11 AM
Hopefully, this year's tourney appearance will encourage Rysheed and CO to stay one more year and see what they can get done as the leaders next year....(with Sampson, Diallo etc!!!!)
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: MCNPA on March 05, 2015, 10:26:51 AM
Hopefully, this year's tourney appearance will encourage Rysheed and CO to stay one more year and see what they can get done as the leaders next year....(with Sampson, Diallo etc!!!!)

I think Harrison can have some impact on Rysheed coming back and helping Rysheed make the right decision.  Rysheed is improving for sure but two things are going to kill his NBA stock right now and they are his handle and his maturity.  Both red flags right now and he he needs to work on both.  Look at how much Harrison has matured and you can see what Rysheed needs to search to obtain.  He's definitely got NBA talent and athleticism. Mhave to show maturity and out his game together a bit yet by improving his handle and decision-making and become a true PG.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 08, 2015, 01:19:11 PM
What is the date when players have to opt into the NBA draft?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: redmen4life on March 08, 2015, 02:08:43 PM
Hopefully, this year's tourney appearance will encourage Rysheed and CO to stay one more year and see what they can get done as the leaders next year....(with Sampson, Diallo etc!!!!)

I think Harrison can have some impact on Rysheed coming back and helping Rysheed make the right decision.  Rysheed is improving for sure but two things are going to kill his NBA stock right now and they are his handle and his maturity.  Both red flags right now and he he needs to work on both.  Look at how much Harrison has matured and you can see what Rysheed needs to search to obtain.  He's definitely got NBA talent and athleticism. Mhave to show maturity and out his game together a bit yet by improving his handle and decision-making and become a true PG.

Sheed needs to prove to NBA Scouts that he can put together a full season of positive production both on and off the court.

I actually think Greene likely has the greatest influence over Sheed.  If I'm not mistaken, I believe they're roommates and from the little we've heard about the relationship, it appears that Greene treats Sheed like a little brother.  Essentially pushing Sheed to keep his mind right.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 24, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
All of the elements of my wishful thinking are still in play.  it will be an interesting few days/weeks.  I haven't given up....yet.  I think Diallo is the key.  We have a shot.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on March 24, 2015, 05:23:28 PM
All of the elements of my wishful thinking are still in play.  it will be an interesting few days/weeks.  I haven't given up....yet.  I think Diallo is the key.  We have a shot.
sadly, a move needs to be made before he decides in May.  A coach coming in May is significantly more difficult. It makes the AAU summer circuit a lot tougher too with the quick turnover
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 24, 2015, 05:38:33 PM
He could decide any time.  He could certainly decide in April.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on March 24, 2015, 06:45:58 PM
He could decide any time.  He could certainly decide in April.
By mid-April would be ok.  Anything later I'd say exceeded the time needed to figure out the 3-5 as well as 10 year plan.  Guys like the Hurleys might stay a long time if they experience some sustained success.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 28, 2015, 11:08:54 AM
The dominoes are still alive (with the probable exception of Lovett, but just switch to the Italian guard)   One sports blog even speculates our chances for Diallo are improved (I doubt that, but who knows.)
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 11:42:55 AM
The dominoes are still alive (with the probable exception of Lovett, but just switch to the Italian guard)   One sports blog even speculates our chances for Diallo are improved (I doubt that, but who knows.)
You saw my other post about Stone to MD?


Right now, some stuff is happening I never expected.  If stars align all around along with all these dominos, some crazy good stuff can still possibly go down.  Stranger things have happened.  It's why all these universities keep shaking the coaching snow globe.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 28, 2015, 11:50:00 AM
Can you imagine all of a sudden we'd have Pappa, Diallo, CO, Adonis, and 2nd year Ali as bigs?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 11:53:03 AM
Can you imagine all of a sudden we'd have Pappa, Diallo, CO, Adonis, and 2nd year Ali as bigs?
Yeah, we'll have too many bigs and no guards - lol
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 28, 2015, 12:26:52 PM
I think we r both probably delusional, but  one can hope.  Right now we don't even have a coach.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 12:35:31 PM
I think we r both probably delusional, but  one can hope.  Right now we don't even have a coach.
As you know, once the coach is named, things happen quickly.


The new coach has about two weeks to get settled in, hopefully before the one week window in the recruiting rules. If not, they'll be getting their staff ready for the AAU circuit.  and making calls and more calls and more calls - lol
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 28, 2015, 12:42:36 PM
The great thing about college basketball is only takes a few players to really turn things around quickly....and if you do it a few years (even two) in a row it can be magic.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Dan on March 28, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
You only think you're delusional?

We don't even know who the coach is
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
The great thing about college basketball is only takes a few players to really turn things around quickly....and if you do it a few years (even two) in a row it can be magic.
It was painful for me to watch Turgeon struggling to get things going for three years. I felt justified defending him because I knew he could coach and also had a good staff for recruiting.  But until he got Trimble in with some left overs, a lot of posters were really worried he wouldn't make it in time. Now with Diamond Stone and Robert Carter coming in, next year has a chance to be magic as you said.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 29, 2015, 05:54:01 PM
All the dominoes r alive.  let's go Coach Mullim:


CO....Jordan......Sampson....Diallo....Pappa.....
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: TONYD3 on March 29, 2015, 05:55:42 PM
All the dominoes r alive.  let's go Coach Mullim:


CO....Jordan......Sampson....Diallo....Pappa.....
Let's go!
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Tha Kid on March 29, 2015, 07:40:22 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: sju89tr on March 29, 2015, 07:41:37 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?

That would be crazy...but I thought about it
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 29, 2015, 07:42:06 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?

If Cal left Kentucky it could probably be even a better scenario for Briscoe.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 29, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
Starting five:  Jordan, Briscoe, Sampson, Diallo and CO or Pappa.     That's a tourney team.   
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Marco Baldi on March 29, 2015, 07:53:27 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?

That would be crazy...but I thought about it

Heard yesterday if Cal left, Briscoe to Arizona. But a lot has changed since yesterday
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: desco80 on March 29, 2015, 07:55:15 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?

If Cal left Kentucky it could probably be even a better scenario for Briscoe.

I can't even imagine who Kentucky would go after if Cal left.    Doc Rivers?  Phil Jackson?   Donovan?  Shaka Smart?
Money would be no object for them.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 29, 2015, 07:56:27 PM
Chris Mullin?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: jumpinjohnny on March 29, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?

If Cal left Kentucky it could probably be even a better scenario for Briscoe.

I can't even imagine who Kentucky would go after if Cal left.    Doc Rivers?  Phil Jackson?   Donovan?  Shaka Smart?
Money would be no object for them.

Who wants to follow what Calipari has done?  A lot of guys seem to enjoy the relative job security that you wont have at UCLA or a Kentucky
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 29, 2015, 08:18:20 PM
Maybe Paschall would like to play for Coach Mullin?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: desco80 on March 29, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?

If Cal left Kentucky it could probably be even a better scenario for Briscoe.

I can't even imagine who Kentucky would go after if Cal left.    Doc Rivers?  Phil Jackson?   Donovan?  Shaka Smart?
Money would be no object for them.

Who wants to follow what Calipari has done?  A lot of guys seem to enjoy the relative job security that you wont have at UCLA or a Kentucky

True.  But they can offer somebody 6 or 7 million per season.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: valgoth on March 29, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Briscoe if Cal leaves and we get slice?

If Cal left Kentucky it could probably be even a better scenario for Briscoe.

I can't even imagine who Kentucky would go after if Cal left.    Doc Rivers?  Phil Jackson?   Donovan?  Shaka Smart?
Money would be no object for them.

Who wants to follow what Calipari has done?  A lot of guys seem to enjoy the relative job security that you wont have at UCLA or a Kentucky

True.  But they can offer somebody 6 or 7 million per season.

to celebrate, can we have a sweatsuit  burning for desco
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: desco80 on March 30, 2015, 10:20:47 AM
Question,
If we had made this move at this time last year..

1) Would Mullin have won more with the seniors?

2) Would Briscoe have signed in the fall with Slice on staff and a new coach with a long term contract?

3) Would Diallo have signed already if Briscoe was on board, a coach with a contract, and Slice and Matt A recruiting him?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Tha Kid on March 30, 2015, 10:24:03 AM
Question,
If we had made this move at this time last year..

1) Would Mullin have won more with the seniors?

2) Would Briscoe have signed in the fall with Slice on staff and a new coach with a long term contract?

3) Would Diallo have signed already if Briscoe was on board, a coach with a contract, and Slice and Matt A recruiting him?

Perhaps, but at the time a lot of people seemed to think we had a great shot at Briscoe and Diallo, and Lav would have had to have been bought out of 2 years.  No use rehashing (esp. if we end up with one or more of Diallo/Briscoe)...
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Poison on March 30, 2015, 10:27:05 AM
Maybe Paschall would like to play for Coach Mullin?

He is apparently concerned with academics, but he did go to Fordham, so maybe he's not concerned with anything.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: boo3 on March 30, 2015, 10:33:36 AM
Can't see Briscoe coming.  I mean, Calipari would have to leave, which I don't see. 
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Tha Kid on March 30, 2015, 10:40:06 AM
Can't see Briscoe coming.  I mean, Calipari would have to leave, which I don't see. 

Supposedly he's dying to go back to NBA and it kills him he didnt succeed there...
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: sju89tr on March 30, 2015, 10:41:18 AM
If Cal wins national championship and is 40-0 do you see him going back to KY or does he get a fantastic NBA deal?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Tha Kid on March 30, 2015, 10:42:46 AM
If Cal wins national championship and is 40-0 do you see him going back to KY or does he get a fantastic NBA deal?

Lakers will have a high draft pick and money to spend.  Not sure if he'd be OK unless they gave him decision making power like Doc has with the Clippers, and doubt the Buss family does that/gets rid of Kupchak.  But ya never know.

The Nets could give it all to him...but they dont even have their picks in 2016 and 2018 so that seems like a terrible idea.

Bulls and D-Rose and then woo Anthony Davis home to Chicago eventually?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: boo3 on March 30, 2015, 10:44:37 AM
 Is an NbA team going to give Cal - a huge contract ( probably) , full personnel control ( maybe), piece of ownership ( which I heard he would want from a guy that covers the team).  I think that last part is the deal breaker.   
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: sju89tr on March 30, 2015, 11:51:53 AM
Cal is at such a different level now than he was when he last coached in the NBA. I think this will be the end of the road for him at KY if he wins the National Championship.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: Pete88 on March 30, 2015, 12:11:31 PM
Is an NbA team going to give Cal - a huge contract ( probably) , full personnel control ( maybe), piece of ownership ( which I heard he would want from a guy that covers the team).  I think that last part is the deal breaker.   

No way he ever gets a piece of ownership, at least not for a premium team, maybe someone like Memphis or so, but the valuations of these franchises today or just too great for that to happen.  Plus, success at the collegiate level doesn't necessarily translates to the NBA. 
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: 0404 on March 30, 2015, 01:07:32 PM
I bet a team like the Nets think Cal can 'recruit' superstars (See: Lebron/Durant/Davis/etc.) to Brooklyn when the CBA Salary cap is raised significantly in the next couple of years and these guys' contracts are up...
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on March 31, 2015, 04:18:01 PM
The dominoes are all still in play.....and now there are more of them!
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on March 31, 2015, 05:44:12 PM
Is an NbA team going to give Cal - a huge contract ( probably) , full personnel control ( maybe), piece of ownership ( which I heard he would want from a guy that covers the team).  I think that last part is the deal breaker.   

No way he ever gets a piece of ownership, at least not for a premium team, maybe someone like Memphis or so, but the valuations of these franchises today or just too great for that to happen.  Plus, success at the collegiate level doesn't necessarily translates to the NBA.
Cal will get 0.0001% of the Lakers, that'll do it - lol
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on April 03, 2015, 03:26:49 PM
Seems like CO and Jordan have moved into the probable back category.......the dominoes are falling our way....too late for Coach Lavin.....now we need Sampson and Diallo.....would be great if we found another point guard too.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on April 09, 2015, 11:16:10 AM
A few more dominoes today
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: kingofk1ngs on April 09, 2015, 11:17:59 AM
A few more dominoes today

Sima? Slice?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on April 09, 2015, 11:20:53 AM
I know nothing.....just hoping.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on April 09, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
I know nothing.....just hoping.
Well, well, well - dominoes, stars aligning.  some on the board thought it couldn't happen....


https://youtu.be/2be4fOXBH6E (https://youtu.be/2be4fOXBH6E)
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: WillieG on April 09, 2015, 01:45:11 PM
I know nothing.....just hoping.
Well, well, well - dominoes, stars aligning.  some on the board thought it couldn't happen....


https://youtu.be/2be4fOXBH6E (https://youtu.be/2be4fOXBH6E)
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: bball purist on April 09, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
I know nothing.....just hoping.
Well, well, well - dominoes, stars aligning.  some on the board thought it couldn't happen....


https://youtu.be/2be4fOXBH6E (https://youtu.be/2be4fOXBH6E)
What are you talking about?
Goes back to discussion with hnk and others right when Mullin fully emerged.  A lot that we hoped would happen is happening. And it's not stopping.  ;D
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: hnk on April 14, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
With all the dominoes falling our way, Briscoe might be wondering if he made the wrong decision.
Title: Re: Wishful Thinking, Dominos on next year
Post by: goredmen on April 14, 2015, 09:56:11 PM
With all the dominoes falling our way, Briscoe might be wondering if he made the wrong decision.

nope