6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: TONYD3 on November 02, 2014, 11:55:52 AM
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What does that mean? We heard Adonis had these issues from the time he accepted the scholarship. How is a HS basketball player out of shape? Is there more to it then he eats bad and doesn't work out? How can it take an 18 year old with no injury problems have conditioning issues?
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Everyone's bodies are different. He's a big fella.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
It is also hard for many heavy people to understand that if you eat less food, you'll be less heavy. Adonis needs to want to get in shape. The coaching staff isn't going to follow him around on campus and take the industrial sized bag of Doritos out of his hands.
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My one friend eats like a pig and is as skinny as Kate Moss. (Is Kate Moss still a thing?) Genetics are real, some people just have it like that.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
It is also hard for many heavy people to understand that if you eat less food, you'll be less heavy. Adonis needs to want to get in shape. The coaching staff isn't going to follow him around on campus and take the industrial sized bag of Doritos out of his hands.
That's a very simplistic view of the weight issue.
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Again, it is not just the weight. He never works hard to get into reasonable condition. Lavin is frustrated with him for that reason. Yes, he is a big man, but come on. I would have let him chug up & down the court a few minutes yesterday, just to let him understand what he needs to do. On the other hand, I can appreciate Lavin's frustration with this apparent lack of commitment.
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ADL is exactly who Lavin recruited. Why is everyone shocked? I thought he was one of the better, more aggressive players at the Midnight Madness. He scored at will. Instead of recruiting a heavy player expecting to cut his weight, the coaches should see what they have and work with it. Charles Barkley was called the round mound of rebound for a reason. His weight didn't hurt him.
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I would have let him chug up & down the court a few minutes yesterday, just to let him understand what he needs to do
Why do that when you can create needless drama?
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
Oh come on. Genetics? It's far more likely that their family fed them both junk as a kid and they developed horrible eating habits like half of this country. I was considered a "naturally skinny"person until 9th grade because I come from a track and soccer family and was forced to compete at every meet and tournament in the area since I was a kid. My weight in the last seven years has fluctuated from a low of 179 during a time I was active cyclng and training for sprint triathlons to a high of 254 when my son was born. I"m currently 230 (10% bf).
I don't buy the genetics argument. Calories in v. calories burned.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
It is also hard for many heavy people to understand that if you eat less food, you'll be less heavy. Adonis needs to want to get in shape. The coaching staff isn't going to follow him around on campus and take the industrial sized bag of Doritos out of his hands.
That's a very simplistic view of the weight issue.
If Adonis only ate less food, he'd lose weight. A simplistic plan is clearly what's in order.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
It is also hard for many heavy people to understand that if you eat less food, you'll be less heavy. Adonis needs to want to get in shape. The coaching staff isn't going to follow him around on campus and take the industrial sized bag of Doritos out of his hands.
That's a very simplistic view of the weight issue.
If Adonis only ate less food, he'd lose weight. A simplistic plan is clearly what's in order.
Agreed.
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My one friend eats like a pig and is as skinny as Kate Moss. (Is Kate Moss still a thing?) Genetics are real, some people just have it like that.
That is, "Is Kate Moss still a (skinny, waif-like) thing?" ;D
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
Oh come on. Genetics? It's far more likely that their family fed them both junk as a kid and they developed horrible eating habits like half of this country. I was considered a "naturally skinny"person until 9th grade because I come from a track and soccer family and was forced to compete at every meet and tournament in the area since I was a kid. My weight in the last seven years has fluctuated from a low of 179 during a time I was active cyclng and training for sprint triathlons to a high of 254 when my son was born. I"m currently 230 (10% bf).
I don't buy the genetics argument. Calories in v. calories burned.
10% body fat at 230 - you must have been the Hulk for Halloween Marillac.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
It is also hard for many heavy people to understand that if you eat less food, you'll be less heavy. Adonis needs to want to get in shape. The coaching staff isn't going to follow him around on campus and take the industrial sized bag of Doritos out of his hands.
That's a very simplistic view of the weight issue.
If Adonis only ate less food, he'd lose weight. A simplistic plan is clearly what's in order.
My son has the prototypical thick in the middle pitcher's body. When he wanted to get in better condition, he ran lots of (foul) "poles" with and without his teammates. When he broke his hand during the season, he ran double the poles he did before. That, combined with regular conditioning, got him stronger and better on the mound in a hurry.
I assume a regimen was given out to the guys in the summer. I'm going to bet the guys were told that it is what they want to make of it. But I also recall the board discussing the interviews where ADR's HC said he was working really hard to become stronger and get in better shape leading up to his senior year. I'm not sure what to make of all of this. Either he listened to the coaching staff, or is paying for it now. Not every frosh is mature enough to handle the extra work on top of a HS routine. They learn quick enough.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
Oh come on. Genetics? It's far more likely that their family fed them both junk as a kid and they developed horrible eating habits like half of this country. I was considered a "naturally skinny"person until 9th grade because I come from a track and soccer family and was forced to compete at every meet and tournament in the area since I was a kid. My weight in the last seven years has fluctuated from a low of 179 during a time I was active cyclng and training for sprint triathlons to a high of 254 when my son was born. I"m currently 230 (10% bf).
I don't buy the genetics argument. Calories in v. calories burned.
Know who else's family is feeding them garbage? St.John's. As in us. Hot dog, cheeseburger and they actually have corn dogs. Or, take your pick of candy, popcorn, pretzels or ice cream. We should expect crap at a stadium/venue of any kind, but it's a dad example to set in NY in 2014.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
Oh come on. Genetics? It's far more likely that their family fed them both junk as a kid and they developed horrible eating habits like half of this country. I was considered a "naturally skinny"person until 9th grade because I come from a track and soccer family and was forced to compete at every meet and tournament in the area since I was a kid. My weight in the last seven years has fluctuated from a low of 179 during a time I was active cyclng and training for sprint triathlons to a high of 254 when my son was born. I"m currently 230 (10% bf).
I don't buy the genetics argument. Calories in v. calories burned.
Know who else's family is feeding them garbage? St.John's. As in us. Hot dog, cheeseburger and they actually have corn dogs. Or, take your pick of candy, popcorn, pretzels or ice cream. We should expect crap at a stadium/venue of any kind, but it's a dad example to set in NY in 2014.
What we supposed to eat at these games? A bowl of oatmeal?
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
It is also hard for many heavy people to understand that if you eat less food, you'll be less heavy. Adonis needs to want to get in shape. The coaching staff isn't going to follow him around on campus and take the industrial sized bag of Doritos out of his hands.
Have you seen the size of some of the men on our coaching staff? They are probably eating the industrial sized bag of Doritos with Adonis.
If they did not play him because of his weight issue they're hypocrites.
This kid should be playing. They call them big men with good reason.
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Since his brother also has weight issues, it is likely a genetic thing. It is often hard for natural thin people to understand the struggles that heavy people go through.
Oh come on. Genetics? It's far more likely that their family fed them both junk as a kid and they developed horrible eating habits like half of this country. I was considered a "naturally skinny"person until 9th grade because I come from a track and soccer family and was forced to compete at every meet and tournament in the area since I was a kid. My weight in the last seven years has fluctuated from a low of 179 during a time I was active cyclng and training for sprint triathlons to a high of 254 when my son was born. I"m currently 230 (10% bf).
I don't buy the genetics argument. Calories in v. calories burned.
Know who else's family is feeding them garbage? St.John's. As in us. Hot dog, cheeseburger and they actually have corn dogs. Or, take your pick of candy, popcorn, pretzels or ice cream. We should expect crap at a stadium/venue of any kind, but it's a dad example to set in NY in 2014.
What we supposed to eat at these games? A bowl of oatmeal?
Celery and quinoa, duh!
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Come on people, you can't be that simplistic. Why isn't Adonis in shape! It's the coach's fault! Just put him on diet! Etc Etc, Get real folks. Sandoval on Giants---do you think his trainers have not tried to get him in shape? Lots of potential being wasted there despite Pablo's Series success. Newsflash---Lavin is not playing Adonis until he gets into shape. That is why he did not play this weekend. And Lavin will not play him until his conditioning and approach changes. Shock theapy. Is Lavin going out on limb. Yes he is. But he is putting ball into Adonis hands. You will not play until you train. Adonis' choice. Hope he makes the right decision. And I support coach's approach. Adonis did not have this discipline in high school.He showed up and he played. Not any more. Up to Adonis.. No matter his size, no matter the team needs, he ain't playing until Adonis gets into shape. Amen. Only way Adonis is pro material is if he trains. Lavin is on the right track.
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Come on people, you can't be that simplistic. Why isn't Adonis in shape! It's the coach's fault! Just put him on diet! Etc Etc, Get real folks. Sandoval on Giants---do you think his trainers have not tried to get him in shape? Lots of potential being wasted there despite Pablo's Series success. Newsflash---Lavin is not playing Adonis until he gets into shape. That is why he did not play this weekend. And Lavin will not play him until his conditioning and approach changes. Shock theapy. Is Lavin going out on limb. Yes he is. But he is putting ball into Adonis hands. You will not play until you train. Adonis' choice. Hope he makes the right decision. And I support coach's approach. Adonis did not have this discipline in high school.He showed up and he played. Not any more. Up to Adonis.. No matter his size, no matter the team needs, he ain't playing until Adonis gets into shape. Amen. Only way Adonis is pro material is if he trains. Lavin is on the right track.
Lavin didn't recruit a stick figure. That's like Adonis arriving at St.John's and saying I'm not exercising until you clean this shithole up.
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Sandoval then
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Sandoval now
He's lost weight but he is still a big guy. Same has happened with Adonis he HAS lost weight since he started high school. Some people can't just be skinny or "in shape". Adonis can get burn looking the way he does, he just needs to work on his stamina.
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this all sounds like an excuse for redshirt ...
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I dont care how he looks, can he play? Barkley may have looked fat buy he was in shape. Never saw him in person in college but he looked real good in highlights. I started this thread, I was hoping their was more to it. No excuse not to come in shape.
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This kid is now my favorite player w/o ever having seen him play. I also enjoy the commentary from the posters most of whom probably won't be asked to model for a calender anytime soon unless it is a Homer Simpson look a like calender.
The thing with Fat guys is they are usually fun and good natured. I would much rather hang around a bunch of fat guys than a bunch of skinny guys any day! Homer Simpson, Peter Griffin, Santa Claus, Charles Barkley, Chris Farley, John Belushi,I would you rather have a beer with those guys or Zack Efron? And two of them are not even alive anymore. Plus fat guys make me look like I am more in shape then I am.
Congrats Delarosa you have now joined the prestigious group of WASJU's favorite players
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Guys, he was running court like Curtis Johnson. If he can't get up and down the court, he ruins what the other players are doing by pressing and running on offense. It's 4 on 5. I want him out there, but he's probably not able to keep up. Maybe coach will work him in. He looks a lot like a red shirt.
Just too bad he wasn't able to take his weight more seriously this summer.
That's the crock that I don't buy. You eat less garbage, you look and feel less fat.
I expect it to take him the season to just first get used to playing at this level.
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What happened to #30? He was sitting behind the bench.
Yes, it's come to this. I am asking about the eligibility of a walk on. We could use him.
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What happened to #30? He was sitting behind the bench.
Yes, it's come to this. I am asking about the eligibility of a walk on. We could use him.
I was thinking of Marillac when I saw him behind the bench.
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I support coach's approach.
Lavin is on the right track.
Obviously it's not Lavin's fault that adr is not in shape. But he just signed him! It's not like this is a problem that you couldn't see coming.
The kid has been here two months, so either Lavin recruited a kid too fat to get up and down the court, or one who doesn't want to work hard. Possibly both.
Either way it's not a good sign.
On other notes...
-ADR is not pro material no matter how much weight he loses.
- Poison, there are 486 things that need to be addressed before we get to the concessions.
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Obviously it's not Lavin's fault that adr is not in shape. But he just signed him! It's not like this is a problem that you couldn't see coming. The kid has been here two months, so either Lavin recruited a kid too fat to get up and down the court, or one who doesn't want to work hard. Possibly both.
Yeah. Or, Lavin is doing what he does every year, which is fomenting controversy and sowing discord while scapegoating a player as an excuse for his own failures. Weird how 6 months ago he could run up and down the court well enough to earn a scholarship and now all of a sudden bupkis.
ADR is not pro material no matter how much weight he loses.
Have you ever seen him play? What's that you say? You've seen him on you tube? And your considered opinion after watching him on utube is that he cannot soar in four years to Brendon Haywood level? That' he'll never be as good as Ognjen Kuzmic and Festus Exeli and DJ Mbenga? That's disappointing, because he looks like pro material to me: he's 7 feet tall and black and wearing shorts. Oh well, screw the fat bastard then.
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Obviously it's not Lavin's fault that adr is not in shape. But he just signed him! It's not like this is a problem that you couldn't see coming. The kid has been here two months, so either Lavin recruited a kid too fat to get up and down the court, or one who doesn't want to work hard. Possibly both.
Yeah. Or, Lavin is doing what he does every year, which is fomenting controversy and sowing discord while scapegoating a player as an excuse for his own failures. Weird how 6 months ago he could run up and down the court well enough to earn a scholarship and now all of a sudden bupkis.
ADR is not pro material no matter how much weight he loses.
Have you ever seen him play? What's that you say? You've seen him on you tube? And your considered opinion after watching him on utube is that he cannot soar in four years to Brendon Haywood level? That' he'll never be as good as Ognjen Kuzmic and Festus Exeli and DJ Mbenga? That's disappointing, because he looks like pro material to me: he's 7 feet tall and black and wearing shorts. Oh well, screw the fat bastard then.
Obviously it's not Lavin's fault that adr is not in shape. But he just signed him! It's not like this is a problem that you couldn't see coming. The kid has been here two months, so either Lavin recruited a kid too fat to get up and down the court, or one who doesn't want to work hard. Possibly both.
Yeah. Or, Lavin is doing what he does every year, which is fomenting controversy and sowing discord while scapegoating a player as an excuse for his own failures. Weird how 6 months ago he could run up and down the court well enough to earn a scholarship and now all of a sudden bupkis.
ADR is not pro material no matter how much weight he loses.
Have you ever seen him play? What's that you say? You've seen him on you tube? And your considered opinion after watching him on utube is that he cannot soar in four years to Brendon Haywood level? That' he'll never be as good as Ognjen Kuzmic and Festus Exeli and DJ Mbenga? That's disappointing, because he looks like pro material to me: he's 7 feet tall and black and wearing shorts. Oh well, screw the fat bastard then.
Obviously it's not Lavin's fault that adr is not in shape. But he just signed him! It's not like this is a problem that you couldn't see coming. The kid has been here two months, so either Lavin recruited a kid too fat to get up and down the court, or one who doesn't want to work hard. Possibly both.
Yeah. Or, Lavin is doing what he does every year, which is fomenting controversy and sowing discord while scapegoating a player as an excuse for his own failures. Weird how 6 months ago he could run up and down the court well enough to earn a scholarship and now all of a sudden bupkis.
ADR is not pro material no matter how much weight he loses.
Have you ever seen him play? What's that you say? You've seen him on you tube? And your considered opinion after watching him on utube is that he cannot soar in four years to Brendon Haywood level? That' he'll never be as good as Ognjen Kuzmic and Festus Exeli and DJ Mbenga? That's disappointing, because he looks like pro material to me: he's 7 feet tall and black and wearing shorts. Oh well, screw the fat bastard then.
I have to agree. Who are we to say this kid isn't a pro? Cedric Jackson was an f'n pro. A kid comes in, they struggle as a freshman and they learn what's expected to succeed. Some take that knowledge seriously, and some don't. Delarosa, like many 7 footers isn't a chiseled copy of Tim Duncan.
But he does have soft hands, a nice jumper, and damn good training at CTK.
Let's try to have a little more faith in the kids. We are fans, after all. I've been guilty of wanting freshman and sophs to transfer out before, and sometimes it makes sense for the kid and school. Like with Malik Stith, but if you look at the strong programs in our league and around the country, they are strong not just because of recruiting and coaching. They have continuity. And that counts for a lot.
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Does anyone remember Sam Dalembert and his lack of skill at SH?
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Does anyone remember Sam Dalembert and his lack of skill at SH?
I remember him, but I think he was a quality big man. Maybe not offensively, but the guy could fly down the court, rebound and block shots. We're not starting at that place with Delarosa. Delarosa has different skills than Dalembert.
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I have to agree. Who are we to say this kid isn't a pro? Cedric Jackson was an f'n pro. A kid comes in, they struggle as a freshman and they learn what's expected to succeed. Some take that knowledge seriously, and some don't. Delarosa, like many 7 footers isn't a chiseled copy of Tim Duncan.
But he does have soft hands, a nice jumper, and damn good training at CTK.
Let's try to have a little more faith in the kids. We are fans, after all. I've been guilty of wanting freshman and sophs to transfer out before, and sometimes it makes sense for the kid and school. Like with Malik Stith, but if you look at the strong programs in our league and around the country, they are strong not just because of recruiting and coaching. They have continuity. And that counts for a lot.
It's not even the announcement that he's not a pro before his first college game. It's the announcement that he's a tub of goo lazy bastard and that his coach has acted appropriately by fat shaming him on the back page of the Post - a coach who dresses in sweat suits designed to obscure his own impressive pasta belly. And that from this comes the announcement that Lavin's a disciplinarian who thinks there are more important things than winning. Whereas in fact it's just more self-serving pablum from a vapid shameless snake oil salesman.
According to TDN the kid's so far lost a hundred pounds since his freshman year in high school. That doesn't sound lazy and unmotivated to me.
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The real disturbing part is if he is having conditioning issues with how slow we play, there is no other place he would be able to play either.
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Washington Generals :crazy2:?
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cant believe people are bashing Lavin because a freshman player isn't in shape. Lavin didn't call him fat or embarass him. Most teams don't let athletes play If they don't pass reasonable requirements . I am sure it's not easy. But the kid is on scholarship. I am certain he was aware what he had to do to play.
blaming Lavin is just dumb.
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Adonis put on a ton of weight from the NYS Federations to now. Look at the SI scrimmage video...kid looks awful. He's so fat he can't even get in proper position on defense. He's playing like a 50 year old fat guy.
For those suggesting that he should stop trying to lose weight and just build muscle...that is a terrible idea. He is probably 30-40% body fat and he is losing a ton of quickness carrying the extra weight. He should be 260 tops.
I like this kid as a recruit long term, but he needs to shape up--literally.
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cant believe people are bashing Lavin because a freshman player isn't in shape. Lavin didn't call him fat or embarass him. Most teams don't let athletes play If they don't pass reasonable requirements . I am sure it's not easy. But the kid is on scholarship. I am certain he was aware what he had to do to play.
blaming Lavin is just dumb.
Not a Lavin supporter, but agree this is not his or staff's fault. Having seen Adonis many times & spoken to AAU & CHSAA coaches at different levels, the common theme was he just does not work hard. I avoided the description "lazy" because I don't want to incur the wrath of posters demanding transcripts, tapes, menus, etc. This is potentially the epitome of opportunity presented, but not taken. Wake up Adonis!
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cant believe people are bashing Lavin because a freshman player isn't in shape. Lavin didn't call him fat or embarass him. Most teams don't let athletes play If they don't pass reasonable requirements . I am sure it's not easy. But the kid is on scholarship. I am certain he was aware what he had to do to play.
blaming Lavin is just dumb.
Not a Lavin supporter, but agree this is not his or staff's fault. Having seen Adonis many times & spoken to AAU & CHSAA coaches at different levels, the common theme was he just does not work hard. I avoided the description "lazy" because I don't want to incur the wrath of posters demanding transcripts, tapes, menus, etc. This is potentially the epitome of opportunity presented, but not taken. Wake up Adonis!
He's one game into his exhibition career and is the epitome of not taking advantage of his opportunities, which we know because his drama queen coach says he's too fat to run up and down the court. Well, I call bullshit. Harrison is too angry to play, and Jordan's throat's too sore, and Phil Greene's hip hurts and my prostate's enlarged and my daddy died and Sanchez had a baby. It's too bad every other team in the country doesn't have these sorts of issues or someday we might win a game or two.
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What are the odds that he breaks a back-board this season? Thought it was going to happen on his follow-up dunk in the exhibition game.
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cant believe people are bashing Lavin because a freshman player isn't in shape. Lavin didn't call him fat or embarass him. Most teams don't let athletes play If they don't pass reasonable requirements . I am sure it's not easy. But the kid is on scholarship. I am certain he was aware what he had to do to play.
blaming Lavin is just dumb.
Not a Lavin supporter, but agree this is not his or staff's fault. Having seen Adonis many times & spoken to AAU & CHSAA coaches at different levels, the common theme was he just does not work hard. I avoided the description "lazy" because I don't want to incur the wrath of posters demanding transcripts, tapes, menus, etc. This is potentially the epitome of opportunity presented, but not taken. Wake up Adonis!
He's one game into his exhibition career and is the epitome of not taking advantage of his opportunities, which we know because his drama queen coach says he's too fat to run up and down the court. Well, I call bullshit. Harrison is too angry to play, and Jordan's throat's too sore, and Phil Greene's hip hurts and my prostate's enlarged and my daddy died and Sanchez had a baby. It's too bad every other team in the country doesn't have these sorts of issues or someday we might win a game or two.
He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
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He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
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Thought Adrian Adonis was a lot more spry than Cujo. I'm sure he's not beating Oblockpa down the court on a run out in practice, but he was able to hustle back on defense following a made basket just fine. I would like to see both siblings on the court together in a poor man's Collins brothers twin tower alignment.
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He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
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I think he gained all the weight that Lebron lost
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He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
So what?
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He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
So what?
Yes, in the first place, so what, in the second place, irrelevant, in the third place, non sequitur, in the fourth place, who cares, and in the fifth place, utter nonsense - Dele Coker plays professional basketball and Adonis is already better than him.
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He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
You can't teach 7 feet--there will be a spot for him somewhere. Wenington went on to earn 3 rings (thanks to MJ) but you would not have projected him to be NBA in year one. Big kids take more time to develop. So 15 minutes in one game is not a predictor.
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He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
So what?
He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
So what?
Yes, in the first place, so what, in the second place, irrelevant, in the third place, non sequitur, in the fourth place, who cares, and in the fifth place, utter nonsense - Dele Coker plays professional basketball and Adonis is already better than him.
He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
So what?
I'm referring back to a conversation from a few days ago. Fun took issue with my declaration that ADR wasn't a future pro, as another poster had suggested.
Of course anything is possible. And for purposes of discussion I consider being a pro to be the NBA, d-league, or a high-level European league.
ADR has soft hands for a big guy. And I really welcome that, because it's been forever and a day since we had a big man who had a hook shot and could hit free throws. But his lack of mobility is a huge issue in an era when physical play is being de-emphasized so that offensive players have freedom of movement.
He's going to have to be able to stay with much quicker guys who are going to float around the perimeter looking to pick and roll or pick n pop.
It'll be fun to watch him for four years. But I just think its ridiculous for anyone to say he's got the nba in his future. He doesn't.
But that won't stop me from enjoying him while he's in college. Should be a good 4-year player if he can drop some weight.
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He isn't able to run up and down the court right now. That much can't be debated. But that doesn't mean that he isn't working hard. I'm of the belief that everyone should lay off the kid's weight. If our season's success is on a freshman who wasn't expected to play much, the blame falls on our staff.
All of this hype, for 4 years, and it comes down to a freshman with a weight problem and a Bosnian that no basketball fan has ever heard of before this past summer. Not pretty.
Still, it's early, and both of them can contribute. They showed signs of that on Saturday.
I don't disagree. Obviously he's not in optimal condition. But he wasn't in optimal condition in 7 months ago when he announced or 4 months ago when he signed. To say that he's wasting his opportunity because he hasn't developed a body by jake in the three months he's been on campus is absurd. And for his coach to fat shame him is repulsive, especially considering that nearly every word that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self serving twaddle, including and and the.
I liked what I saw from ADLR. Obviously he's a basketball player. If he applies himself in a couple of years he be a force. If he doesn't there'll be more than enough time to call him names. And if the great and powerful recruiting wasn't so chaotic it wouldn't matter anyway.
All of that is true.
And still Adonis will not be a pro.
How can you know that now? Did you watch him on Saturday?