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Title: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: pmg911 on July 21, 2014, 11:11:21 AM
I have been away for 2 weeks but shocked no thread was started...   - apologies if this is somewhere else on the site...

http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/steve-lavin-recruiting-in-bosnia/ (http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/steve-lavin-recruiting-in-bosnia/)

Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on July 21, 2014, 04:30:36 PM
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8901.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=8901.0)
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 03, 2014, 02:36:06 PM
@AdamZagoria: 6-9 Bosnian F Amar Alibegovic will visit St. John's next week, source tells @SNYtv
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 04, 2014, 07:29:15 AM
http://zagsblog.com/articles/bosnian-forward-to-visit-st-johns-2015-targets-come-into-focus/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/bosnian-forward-to-visit-st-johns-2015-targets-come-into-focus/)
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 09, 2014, 12:11:08 PM
@JonRothstein: Bosnian F Amar Alibegovic is currently on an official visit to St. John's, sources told @CBSSports. Would be a part of 2014 class. #SJUBB
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: fordham96 on August 09, 2014, 12:27:54 PM
@JonRothstein: Bosnian F Amar Alibegovic is currently on an official visit to St. John's, sources told @CBSSports. Would be a part of 2014 class. #SJUBB

Nothing gets by Jon... LOL
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 09, 2014, 05:17:02 PM
He comes Sunday.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: yankcranker on August 09, 2014, 06:46:47 PM
He comes Sunday.

Rothstein was counting when he got on the plane, not when he got on campus.  ;)
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 11, 2014, 04:54:58 PM
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-basketball-recruiting/2014/8/11/5979773/amar-alibegovic-u20-championships (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-basketball-recruiting/2014/8/11/5979773/amar-alibegovic-u20-championships)
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: TONYD3 on August 11, 2014, 05:22:32 PM
This guy sounds shitty.  Max and Marco left. We don't need another one
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on August 11, 2014, 05:39:35 PM
This guy sounds shitty.  Max and Marco left. We don't need another one

Wow. Pretty pathetic. Kid just flew over here to visit our favorite bball team and you gonna write him off because he didnt get minutes in a national tournament playing behind the 16th pick in this years draft?
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 11, 2014, 05:49:33 PM
This guy sounds shitty.  Max and Marco left. We don't need another one

Wow. Pretty pathetic. Kid just flew over here to visit our favorite bball team and you gonna write him off because he didnt get minutes in a national tournament playing behind the 16th pick in this years draft?

+1
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: Tiznow on August 11, 2014, 10:31:52 PM
This guy sounds shitty.  Max and Marco left. We don't need another one

We usually wait till after a kid's first crappy game before we tear into them.  Now we do it while a kid is on a visit.  The one thing that rings true is that this team has some real shitty fans.

Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: TONYD3 on August 11, 2014, 11:38:29 PM
I was messing around didn't want to offend anyone
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: 96 Schermerhorn Street on August 12, 2014, 12:26:55 AM
I was messing around didn't want to offend anyone
Some how you have manage to offend
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: ras on August 13, 2014, 01:30:35 PM
according to Rothstein. He has commited to us.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on August 13, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
according to Rothstein. He has commited to us.
Welcome aboard Amar!
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: P1NSTR1PEZ on August 13, 2014, 01:38:18 PM
Rothstein and Zags both confirmed. He'll suit up this year. Adds size with is always good
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: Red2395 on August 13, 2014, 01:39:07 PM
Welcome. Amar is a player who can open the lane for Jordan to drive.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: QuanMan on August 13, 2014, 02:17:34 PM
When hired Lavs promised recruiting with no boundries, and that as a global university, an international brand would be a regular occurence on the roster.

He's backed this up every year since, and finally has a true 18 year old prospect. I'm estatic to be able to watch Amar's progress over the next 4 years, he has tremendous potential, welcome aboard!
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: TONYD3 on August 13, 2014, 02:31:18 PM
I said something stupid about this guy a few days ago.  But really Is he any good? Does anyone know? Is he better then max or marco?
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on August 13, 2014, 02:43:59 PM
I said something stupid about this guy a few days ago.  But really Is he any good? Does anyone know? Is he better then max or marco?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqhLDhC3-0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqhLDhC3-0)

Hes number 7 in white. Can hardly tell anything from this. Has a nice pass around 45 second mark and then scores on drive on next play. Interview at the end. This is going on 3 years ago keep in mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAwdYyqmeHU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAwdYyqmeHU)

more recent vid with two blocks at the end.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 13, 2014, 02:44:50 PM
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081314aaa.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081314aaa.html)
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on August 13, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jDgRUZW2r4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jDgRUZW2r4)

This is a video of Dennis Alibegovic who some were saying is a real good prospect. It is the same kid who Amar took a picture with on instagram a few days back with the hash tag #brothers.

So good news seems to be that they are brothers after all.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 13, 2014, 02:58:59 PM
@AdamZagoria: Steve Lavin missed Peach Jam to recruit Alibegovic in Bosnia. Now he got him and may still get Briscoe &/or Beasley.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: stjohns86 on August 13, 2014, 04:25:27 PM
Or both!
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: shamsman2 on August 13, 2014, 06:00:49 PM
I said something stupid about this guy a few days ago.  But really Is he any good? Does anyone know? Is he better then max or marco?
fair question, don't think we will really know until a few games into the season. I hope he is more productive than Marco, please!
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: Ron Artesticles on August 13, 2014, 06:12:02 PM
I said something stupid about this guy a few days ago.  But really Is he any good? Does anyone know? Is he better then max or marco?
fair question, don't think we will really know until a few games into the season. I hope he is more productive than Marco, please!

important to note he will be a freshmen, with full eligibility. Let's not judge him by his first few games of American basketball, ever, period.

This is the kind of kid you might even redshirt, but I wouldn't expect much first year in terms of production or minutes.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia
Post by: paultzman on August 13, 2014, 06:36:53 PM
I said something stupid about this guy a few days ago.  But really Is he any good? Does anyone know? Is he better then max or marco?
fair question, don't think we will really know until a few games into the season. I hope he is more productive than Marco, please!

important to note he will be a freshmen, with full eligibility. Let's not judge him by his first few games of American basketball, ever, period.

This is the kind of kid you might even redshirt, but I wouldn't expect much first year in terms of production or minutes.

Exactly, nothing wrong in developing him over several years hopefully.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: shamsman2 on August 13, 2014, 08:26:43 PM
I said something stupid about this guy a few days ago.  But really Is he any good? Does anyone know? Is he better then max or marco?
fair question, don't think we will really know until a few games into the season. I hope he is more productive than Marco, please!

important to note he will be a freshmen, with full eligibility. Let's not judge him by his first few games of American basketball, ever, period.

This is the kind of kid you might even redshirt, but I wouldn't expect much first year in terms of production or minutes.

I agree, I'm just hoping to see some potential to tease me a bit.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: fordham96 on August 13, 2014, 08:27:52 PM
There is little downside if any to this signing.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: simplyred on August 13, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Kid has been playing alongside professionals in Europe.  I'll wait to see him play before I write him off.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: boo3 on August 13, 2014, 09:26:50 PM
 He doesn't need to be super productive right off the bat.. Give him some time to assimilate on the court and off.   A big body with an outside touch?  Nothing to lose here...  If he gets 5-10 minutes a night, that's fine...

 I'm starting to get excited for the season...We should be pretty good.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Tiznow on August 13, 2014, 10:38:05 PM
He joins a senior heavy team with a mature JUCO added to the mix. 

You would think he won't be playing significant minutes this year, but if the season unfolds like last season he may be the guy with the ball in his hands up one with under 20 seconds in the game.   
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Ron Artesticles on August 14, 2014, 12:35:58 AM
He joins a senior heavy team with a mature JUCO added to the mix. 

You would think he won't be playing significant minutes this year, but if the season unfolds like last season he may be the guy with the ball in his hands up one with under 20 seconds in the game.   

zing!
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Poison on August 14, 2014, 09:30:42 AM
Welcome to St.John's Amar Alibegovic. May you make us all eat our words.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: paultzman on August 14, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
http://www.nycbuckets.com/2014/08/st-johns-lands-eligible-big-can-immediately-contribute/ (http://www.nycbuckets.com/2014/08/st-johns-lands-eligible-big-can-immediately-contribute/)
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Poison on August 14, 2014, 09:51:12 AM
http://www.nycbuckets.com/2014/08/st-johns-lands-eligible-big-can-immediately-contribute/ (http://www.nycbuckets.com/2014/08/st-johns-lands-eligible-big-can-immediately-contribute/)

This doesn't really say anything. It talks about not getting your hopes up, but we all already know this. No one should expect more than 2 and 1 in his first year. Beyond that, it's gravy.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: paultzman on August 14, 2014, 10:28:27 AM
As Fordham noted, there is no down side to getting Amar.  I look at how Auda improved over time at Seton Hall & became a very functional player. Hopefully  Amar  can also evolve into a solid contributor with some seasoning. Do not expect much year one nor throw him to wolves. Let him get stronger, acquire a better sense of the college game & increase his skill level. This is certainly worth a try. If he doesn't make it, so be it.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: TONYD3 on August 14, 2014, 11:36:14 PM
There is little downside if any to this signing.
Again I said something stupid about this kid a few days ago. I said He sounds shitty. Honestly I have no idea how good he is. He seems like a lottery ticket/slash project. I hope this kid does well however why should we invest so much in a kid from another country instead giving a local kid a chance. Shooting guard from Christ the King no interest (at fordham). Fudd from boys and girls- no interest. Shooting guard from Jefferson- think he went down south some where. I understand all 3 of these guys had issues however still think it is a much better idea giving a chance on any and of these then Marco, max, and this new guy.   
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: simplyred on August 15, 2014, 12:34:22 AM
TonyD, you mentioned several guards.  We were loaded with guards.  The guys you speak of were not better than what we currently have.  This kid is 6'9".  I don't know how good he is but the comparisons you make are not reallygood ones.  As for Jonathan Severe,we showed some interest.  I think he wanted a situation where he would be guaranteed a stating position.  We couldn't offer that...and based on what I've seen of his game at Fordham, he would have been a disaster on our team.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Poison on August 15, 2014, 11:32:41 AM
TonyD, you mentioned several guards.  We were loaded with guards.  The guys you speak of were not better than what we currently have.  This kid is 6'9".  I don't know how good he is but the comparisons you make are not reallygood ones.  As for Jonathan Severe,we showed some interest.  I think he wanted a situation where he would be guaranteed a stating position.  We couldn't offer that...and based on what I've seen of his game at Fordham, he would have been a disaster on our team.

I'm not so sure that Severe would have been a disaster on our team. Don't think he'd have been better than Bourgault or Hooper? I think he has more natural talent than those guys do. He was just a freshman after all. Not a bad rookie season IMO.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: simplyred on August 15, 2014, 12:32:23 PM
TonyD, you mentioned several guards.  We were loaded with guards.  The guys you speak of were not better than what we currently have.  This kid is 6'9".  I don't know how good he is but the comparisons you make are not reallygood ones.  As for Jonathan Severe,we showed some interest.  I think he wanted a situation where he would be guaranteed a stating position.  We couldn't offer that...and based on what I've seen of his game at Fordham, he would have been a disaster on our team.

I'm not so sure that Severe would have been a disaster on our team. Don't think he'd have been better than Bourgault or Hooper? I think he has more natural talent than those guys do. He was just a freshman after all. Not a bad rookie season IMO.

The number of shots he takes would have been a problem on our team.  If he were willing to defer to the other more talented players on our team, he would have definitely been better than Hooper and Bourgault.  I just think that he wants the offense to center around him and that would not have worked for us.  There's a reason why he chose Fordham over a higher level school.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: dR3w on August 15, 2014, 01:23:05 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/colleges/post/_/id/7392/st-johns-adds-big-man-from-europe (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/colleges/post/_/id/7392/st-johns-adds-big-man-from-europe)
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: fordham96 on August 16, 2014, 09:07:04 PM
For those who care from what I am told Amar has been cleared academically by the NCAA Eligibility Center something that is sometimes problematic with overseas kids.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: we are sju on August 21, 2014, 11:27:43 AM
At the very least it will give posters someone to clamor for when we are struggling. This will be followed by the always entertaining he stinks threads once he actually plays.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on August 21, 2014, 04:56:10 PM
TonyD, you mentioned several guards.  We were loaded with guards.  The guys you speak of were not better than what we currently have.  This kid is 6'9".  I don't know how good he is but the comparisons you make are not reallygood ones.  As for Jonathan Severe,we showed some interest.  I think he wanted a situation where he would be guaranteed a stating position.  We couldn't offer that...and based on what I've seen of his game at Fordham, he would have been a disaster on our team.

I'm not so sure that Severe would have been a disaster on our team. Don't think he'd have been better than Bourgault or Hooper? I think he has more natural talent than those guys do. He was just a freshman after all. Not a bad rookie season IMO.

The number of shots he takes would have been a problem on our team.  If he were willing to defer to the other more talented players on our team, he would have definitely been better than Hooper and Bourgault.  I just think that he wants the offense to center around him and that would not have worked for us.  There's a reason why he chose Fordham over a higher level school.

Severe would not have shot as much as he did with Harrison and Jordan.  I would love that kid on this team.  He shot almost eight treys a game and made 35%.  That is really hard to do.  He could have easily been at 40% if he eliminated his two or three most difficult attempts every game. 

As for Amar, I'm kind of indifferent.  I'm glad we got a someone who can shoot--because I can see it being a big problem at times this year--but I hate that it has to be a PF.  I want my PFs under the basket.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Poison on August 21, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
TonyD, you mentioned several guards.  We were loaded with guards.  The guys you speak of were not better than what we currently have.  This kid is 6'9".  I don't know how good he is but the comparisons you make are not reallygood ones.  As for Jonathan Severe,we showed some interest.  I think he wanted a situation where he would be guaranteed a stating position.  We couldn't offer that...and based on what I've seen of his game at Fordham, he would have been a disaster on our team.

I'm not so sure that Severe would have been a disaster on our team. Don't think he'd have been better than Bourgault or Hooper? I think he has more natural talent than those guys do. He was just a freshman after all. Not a bad rookie season IMO.

The number of shots he takes would have been a problem on our team.  If he were willing to defer to the other more talented players on our team, he would have definitely been better than Hooper and Bourgault.  I just think that he wants the offense to center around him and that would not have worked for us.  There's a reason why he chose Fordham over a higher level school.

Severe would not have shot as much as he did with Harrison and Jordan.  I would love that kid on this team.  He shot almost eight treys a game and made 35%.  That is really hard to do.  He could have easily been at 40% if he eliminated his two or three most difficult attempts every game. 

As for Amar, I'm kind of indifferent.  I'm glad we got a someone who can shoot--because I can see it being a big problem at times this year--but I hate that it has to be a PF.  I want my PFs under the basket.

When Hooper and Bourgault arrived, they were billed as 3 point shooters, and nothing else. And they did exactly that, except for the 3 point shooting. This kid is 6'9. Hopefully, he can develop more of a game than his predecessors did.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on August 21, 2014, 06:21:27 PM
TonyD, you mentioned several guards.  We were loaded with guards.  The guys you speak of were not better than what we currently have.  This kid is 6'9".  I don't know how good he is but the comparisons you make are not reallygood ones.  As for Jonathan Severe,we showed some interest.  I think he wanted a situation where he would be guaranteed a stating position.  We couldn't offer that...and based on what I've seen of his game at Fordham, he would have been a disaster on our team.

I'm not so sure that Severe would have been a disaster on our team. Don't think he'd have been better than Bourgault or Hooper? I think he has more natural talent than those guys do. He was just a freshman after all. Not a bad rookie season IMO.

The number of shots he takes would have been a problem on our team.  If he were willing to defer to the other more talented players on our team, he would have definitely been better than Hooper and Bourgault.  I just think that he wants the offense to center around him and that would not have worked for us.  There's a reason why he chose Fordham over a higher level school.

Severe would not have shot as much as he did with Harrison and Jordan.  I would love that kid on this team.  He shot almost eight treys a game and made 35%.  That is really hard to do.  He could have easily been at 40% if he eliminated his two or three most difficult attempts every game. 

As for Amar, I'm kind of indifferent.  I'm glad we got a someone who can shoot--because I can see it being a big problem at times this year--but I hate that it has to be a PF.  I want my PFs under the basket.

When Hooper and Bourgault arrived, they were billed as 3 point shooters, and nothing else. And they did exactly that, except for the 3 point shooting. This kid is 6'9. Hopefully, he can develop more of a game than his predecessors did.

Bourgault was thought of as more than just a three-point shooter.  He showed a good handle, some rebounding, and great court awareness and passing ability.  I still don't think he was used correctly, but that's for another thread. 

I am not going to expect much from Amar, but I would love to be surprised. 
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: paultzman on August 23, 2014, 11:56:00 AM
@Denis1_finao: @Amar7Alibegovic for everyone that been wondering we are cousins not brothers.

Denis from Chicago, mystery solved.
Title: Re: Amar Alibegovic - Bosnia - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on August 23, 2014, 03:25:04 PM
@Denis1_finao: @Amar7Alibegovic for everyone that been wondering we are cousins not brothers.

Denis from Chicago, mystery solved.

Kid can play.  Big fan and hopefully he wants to play with his cousin in a few years.