Keith Thomas - F - Westchester CC - ST JOHN'S

Quote from: derk on May 02, 2014, 01:29:15 PM

He's got to give us ... 10 boards.

Who was the last SJU player to average 10 rebounds per game? Zendon Hamilton? Before that Berry. Anyone else? Less than ten: Harkless, Shawnelle Scott, Sealy, Glover, Lamont Hamilton, Werdan, Wennington, Shelton Jones, Minlend.

What all those players did or didn't do has no bearing on what Thomas does this year. It's all speculation but from what I read he came on very strong in the last 6 games of the season. Probably why he wasn't heavily recruited earlier. It's not like he's 6'10" and overpowered his JUCO opponents.

I'm going with late bloomer, playing starter minutes, on a rebounding deficient team, who grabs every board in sight.

What all those players did or didn't do has no bearing on what Thomas does this year.

What those players did has a bearing on the reasonableness of your projection.

Thomas was at Fordham on Saturday and again yesterday

Cue moose "**oomed"

Yes, Baldi

Losing Thomas to Fordham would be really damn poor job by our staff considering we are offering plenty of PT right away in the Big East.  Hopefully we still land him and Martin.  Anybody saying we will e "formidable" is totally off though.  I'm hoping for "serviceable".  We will likely be one of the most offensively unskilled front courts in he nation regardless of who we add. 

Losing Thomas to Fordham would be really damn poor job by our staff considering we are offering plenty of PT right away in the Big East.  Hopefully we still land him and Martin.  Anybody saying we will e "formidable" is totally off though.  I'm hoping for "serviceable".  We will likely be one of the most offensively unskilled front courts in he nation regardless of who we add. 

Agree but we would probably have size and some toughness up front and don't forget the preferred walk-on and whoever else we may add.

Quote from: MCNPA on May 02, 2014, 07:23:58 PM

Losing Thomas to Fordham would be really damn poor job by our staff considering we are offering plenty of PT right away in the Big East.  Hopefully we still land him and Martin.  Anybody saying we will e "formidable" is totally off though.  I'm hoping for "serviceable".  We will likely be one of the most offensively unskilled front courts in he nation regardless of who we add. 

Agree but we would probably have size and some toughness up front and don't forget the preferred walk-on and whoever else we may add.

Sam Sealy still on roster?

Quote from: Celtics11 on May 02, 2014, 07:33:30 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 02, 2014, 07:23:58 PM

Losing Thomas to Fordham would be really damn poor job by our staff considering we are offering plenty of PT right away in the Big East.  Hopefully we still land him and Martin.  Anybody saying we will e "formidable" is totally off though.  I'm hoping for "serviceable".  We will likely be one of the most offensively unskilled front courts in he nation regardless of who we add. 

Agree but we would probably have size and some toughness up front and don't forget the preferred walk-on and whoever else we may add.

Sam Sealy still on roster?

HaHa I said toughness. Martin looks real good to me obviously based only on his highlight tape.

Quote from: MCNPA on May 02, 2014, 07:23:58 PM

Losing Thomas to Fordham would be really damn poor job by our staff considering we are offering plenty of PT right away in the Big East.  Hopefully we still land him and Martin.  Anybody saying we will e "formidable" is totally off though.  I'm hoping for "serviceable".  We will likely be one of the most offensively unskilled front courts in he nation regardless of who we add. 

Agree but we would probably have size and some toughness up front and don't forget the preferred walk-on and whoever else we may add.

Size and toughness isn't comin unless we land both Thomas and Martin.  Right now we have zero toughness on the frontline.  We are relying on two jucos to provide that.  I don't mind that scenario, but we seem to be teetering on losing two recruits to Bradley and Fordham in the late period which I'm surprised and disappointed by. 

Quote from: Celtics11 on May 02, 2014, 07:33:30 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 02, 2014, 07:23:58 PM

Losing Thomas to Fordham would be really damn poor job by our staff considering we are offering plenty of PT right away in the Big East.  Hopefully we still land him and Martin.  Anybody saying we will e "formidable" is totally off though.  I'm hoping for "serviceable".  We will likely be one of the most offensively unskilled front courts in he nation regardless of who we add. 

Agree but we would probably have size and some toughness up front and don't forget the preferred walk-on and whoever else we may add.

Size and toughness isn't comin unless we land both Thomas and Martin.  Right now we have zero toughness on the frontline.  We are relying on two jucos to provide that.  I don't mind that scenario, but we seem to be teetering on losing two recruits to Bradley and Fordham in the late period which I'm surprised and disappointed by. 

Quote from: Celtics11 on May 02, 2014, 07:33:30 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on May 02, 2014, 07:23:58 PM

Losing Thomas to Fordham would be really damn poor job by our staff considering we are offering plenty of PT right away in the Big East.  Hopefully we still land him and Martin.  Anybody saying we will e "formidable" is totally off though.  I'm hoping for "serviceable".  We will likely be one of the most offensively unskilled front courts in he nation regardless of who we add. 

Agree but we would probably have size and some toughness up front and don't forget the preferred walk-on and whoever else we may add.

Size and toughness isn't comin unless we land both Thomas and Martin.  Right now we have zero toughness on the frontline.  We are relying on two jucos to provide that.  I don't mind that scenario, but we seem to be teetering on losing two recruits to Bradley and Fordham in the late period which I'm surprised and disappointed by. 

I was speaking on the assumption we land both Martin and Thomas and was referencing your post where you said hopefully we land Thomas and Martin. Please pay closer attention MCN! 

The numbers that would be worth examining would be how many guys at a similar juco level in the past 20 or so seasons averaged 15+ rpg, and what those guys did after transferring to D1.

I think if someone has a nose for the ball, the rebound numbers will follow, and if he's got three years of eligibility as is rumored, it wouldn't shock me to see him get 10+ by his third year. Especially with all our misses. I think he grabs between 7 and 8 next season if he's here, since I think he's a lock to start.

The numbers that would be worth examining would be how many guys at a similar juco level in the past 20 or so seasons averaged 15+ rpg, and what those guys did after transferring to D1.

I think if someone has a nose for the ball, the rebound numbers will follow, and if he's got three years of eligibility as is rumored, it wouldn't shock me to see him get 10+ by his third year. Especially with all our misses. I think he grabs between 7 and 8 next season if he's here, since I think he's a lock to start.

Point was, at the college level, getting 10+ boards a game is rare.  It would be a pleasant surprise to say the least.  I just want players who want to get whatever is needed done down low.


It's a messed up job, but somebody's gotta do it....I hope Thomas makes it his theme song...lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc2NgotkfWE

I haven't seen anyone mention it anywhere in the thread, but I'm surprised no one questioned what the felony assault charge actually was that got Thomas in trouble.


Turns out, it was for shooting a kid in the leg with a bb gun: 

"Yorktown teen faces felony assault charge in BB-gun shooting
Terence Corcoran tcorcora@lohud.com
August 14, 2009 13:33 PM

YORKTOWN - A Yorktown teenager faces a felony assault charge after he shot another person in the leg with a BB gun, police said today.

The victim reported on Wednesday that Keith Thomas, 18, of 200 Hardwood Place, allegedly shot him on Aug. 6 and that he still had the BB in his leg."


The OTHER thing that this newswire raises for me is that Thomas was mentioned as 18 yo at the time of this incident.  That currently makes him 23 years old? I guess it doesn't matter as much as a Juco recruit.  Maturity wise, it could help out.

I haven't seen anyone mention it anywhere in the thread, but I'm surprised no one questioned what the felony assault charge actually was that got Thomas in trouble.


Turns out, it was for shooting a kid in the leg with a bb gun: 

"Yorktown teen faces felony assault charge in BB-gun shooting
Terence Corcoran tcorcora@lohud.com
August 14, 2009 13:33 PM

YORKTOWN - A Yorktown teenager faces a felony assault charge after he shot another person in the leg with a BB gun, police said today.

The victim reported on Wednesday that Keith Thomas, 18, of 200 Hardwood Place, allegedly shot him on Aug. 6 and that he still had the BB in his leg."


The OTHER thing that this newswire raises for me is that Thomas was mentioned as 18 yo at the time of this incident.  That currently makes him 23 years old? I guess it doesn't matter as much as a Juco recruit.  Maturity wise, it could help out.

At least he can shoot". 

Quote from: bball purist on May 03, 2014, 11:31:12 AM

I haven't seen anyone mention it anywhere in the thread, but I'm surprised no one questioned what the felony assault charge actually was that got Thomas in trouble.


Turns out, it was for shooting a kid in the leg with a bb gun: 

"Yorktown teen faces felony assault charge in BB-gun shooting
Terence Corcoran tcorcora@lohud.com
August 14, 2009 13:33 PM

YORKTOWN - A Yorktown teenager faces a felony assault charge after he shot another person in the leg with a BB gun, police said today.

The victim reported on Wednesday that Keith Thomas, 18, of 200 Hardwood Place, allegedly shot him on Aug. 6 and that he still had the BB in his leg."


The OTHER thing that this newswire raises for me is that Thomas was mentioned as 18 yo at the time of this incident.  That currently makes him 23 years old? I guess it doesn't matter as much as a Juco recruit.  Maturity wise, it could help out.

At least he can shoot". 

65% FG didn't come from the ground    Practice, practice, practice...


What's your take on his age? No problem for schools I guess

He is a good shot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8wJt59Q6So

He rebounded well from the shooting

It is important to understand the angle of the shot