6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marco Baldi on November 29, 2016, 10:19:49 PM
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Can someone tell me wtf needs to happen?
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Coaching staffs are almost never altered in-season in college. It is what it will be right through March. If Mullin has any buddies who are great college coaches, now is the time to lean on them for advice.
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I am not sure anyone can answer. IMO, the school gives the staff one year to improve. If not, this new AD has to seriously think about whats best for the program by getting in Mullin's ear and telling him that his next 2 years its tourney or he's out. Put pressure on him. If Mullin really wants this job, he will re evaluate his staff, and see that Richmond is not made for the college game in his current role. If he thinks that highly of St. Jean, he will bring in an X and O's guy who can teach St Jean what it takes to run a program along with being Mullin's right hand man. Mitch Richmond is not the answer and to be honest, never will.
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Respectfully to all of you . I know you have fond memories of him as a player. He seems like a great guy. I hope he quits.
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I am not sure anyone can answer. IMO, the school gives the staff one year to improve. If not, this new AD has to seriously think about whats best for the program by getting in Mullin's ear and telling him that his next 2 years its tourney or he's out. Put pressure on him. If Mullin really wants this job, he will re evaluate his staff, and see that Richmond is not made for the college game in his current role. If he thinks that highly of St. Jean, he will bring in an X and O's guy who can teach St Jean what it takes to run a program along with being Mullin's right hand man. Mitch Richmond is not the answer and to be honest, never will.
Im Thinking Mullin didn't realize the work that goes into being a head coach.. I don't even think he realized it til now.
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The new A D will be lucky to get a meeting with Mitch
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quitting would be the worst thing to happen. Lavin quit on us, per se, and we wound up with arguably the worst roster in the history of major D1 basketball. My hope is Mullin brings in the talent and the next coach has a team he can with with right away. A la Lavin. What Mullin does over the next 3 years will either set us up for better seasons ahead, or IMO opinion burry us for a very, very long time.
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quitting would be the worst thing to happen. Lavin quit on us, per se, and we wound up with arguably the worst roster in the history of major D1 basketball. My hope is Mullin brings in the talent and the next coach has a team he can with with right away. A la Lavin. What Mullin does over the next 3 years will either set us up for better seasons ahead, or IMO opinion burry us for a very, very long time.
Mullin needs to make a great hire to make this work. A badass, a guy who straightens these fckn guys out.
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Until someone tells me they've heard that Mullin isn't on campus enough, or is absent from practices ... I find it hard to believe he's not working hard.
He worked hard recruiting with Matt last summer, no? I didn't hear any complaints that he should've been at X event and was a no-show.
Maybe he's not the right guy for the job. We'll see. But I'm not gonna call him lazy unless I have something to base it on.
Just because he was successful as a player doesn't mean he doesn't have the fire to win anymore. Look at Jim Harbaugh.
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Until someone tells me they've heard that Mullin isn't on campus enough, or is absent from practices ... I find it hard to believe he's not working hard.
He worked hard recruiting with Matt last summer, no? I didn't hear any complaints that he should've been at X event and was a no-show.
Maybe he's not the right guy for the job. We'll see. But I'm not gonna call him lazy unless I have something to base it on.
Just because he was successful as a player doesn't mean he doesn't have the fire to win anymore. Look at Jim Harbaugh.
What if I told you he wasn't workin hard enough? Or if I heard that Mullin and Richomnd don't work anywhere near hard enough?
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I am not sure anyone can answer. IMO, the school gives the staff one year to improve. If not, this new AD has to seriously think about whats best for the program by getting in Mullin's ear and telling him that his next 2 years its tourney or he's out. Put pressure on him. If Mullin really wants this job, he will re evaluate his staff, and see that Richmond is not made for the college game in his current role. If he thinks that highly of St. Jean, he will bring in an X and O's guy who can teach St Jean what it takes to run a program along with being Mullin's right hand man. Mitch Richmond is not the answer and to be honest, never will.
Im Thinking Mullin didn't realize the work that goes into being a head coach.. I don't even think he realized it til now.
I agree. I mean how can any guy who's never been on a sideline, especially in college have any idea what this job entails? Its a 12 month a year job, dealing with kids who's game is completely different than the one he played 30 years ago. Then to top it off, bring on a staff that has as much experience as him and to some degree, 30 years younger with even less experience. This was the wrong time to experiment, IMO, the school had 3 20 win seasons and actually made the tourney twice in 5 years. That is head and shoulders above what we had done in the last 10. Lavin was not the answer, but neither is Mullin. If there was ever a time to get someone on board who could keep building off the last 5 years, now was the time to do it, not take a gamble.
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Not all coaches are created equally. Hard work doesn't automatically equate to being a great coach in any sport. Jim Harbaugh has been a great coach at the college and pro level. Some are more talented than others at their given craft. Mullin has a long way to go to be mentioned in that air.
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Until someone tells me they've heard that Mullin isn't on campus enough, or is absent from practices ... I find it hard to believe he's not working hard.
He worked hard recruiting with Matt last summer, no? I didn't hear any complaints that he should've been at X event and was a no-show.
Maybe he's not the right guy for the job. We'll see. But I'm not gonna call him lazy unless I have something to base it on.
Just because he was successful as a player doesn't mean he doesn't have the fire to win anymore. Look at Jim Harbaugh.
What if I told you he wasn't workin hard enough? Or if I heard that Mullin and Richomnd don't work anywhere near hard enough?
The word I heard is he loves and is into basketball but not sure he is that into coaching. This I heard over the summer even as Mo was at a summer hoop event down south. So it seems he maybe works hard but not at actual coaching and when you think about it he never expressed an interest in coaching until we came a callin.
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I am not sure anyone can answer. IMO, the school gives the staff one year to improve. If not, this new AD has to seriously think about whats best for the program by getting in Mullin's ear and telling him that his next 2 years its tourney or he's out. Put pressure on him. If Mullin really wants this job, he will re evaluate his staff, and see that Richmond is not made for the college game in his current role. If he thinks that highly of St. Jean, he will bring in an X and O's guy who can teach St Jean what it takes to run a program along with being Mullin's right hand man. Mitch Richmond is not the answer and to be honest, never will.
Im Thinking Mullin didn't realize the work that goes into being a head coach.. I don't even think he realized it til now.
If that's true then the staff needs a shakeup, you're right.
But there are complaints from every corner when things aren't going well. And compliments sprout up out of nowhere when you're winning.
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Well obviously Mullin and Matt aren't going anywhere. So if something were to happen at the end of this season it would be with the other two guys. Either both St. Jean and Mitch have to be asked to leave or one asked to leave and the other demoted if anything is going to change on the staff.
Should there be two assistant coach opening on the staff after this year and since all Matt does is recruit, let him do all the recruiting. Then go get two Xs and Os only guys to fill the two openings. Preferably those two guys will be former head coaches but it's going to be find two talented experienced minds looking for a job or willing to be an assistant at St. John's. With the two new assistants, treat it like football and have one offensive coordinator and one defensive coordinator. That way each guy on the staff has defined roles and focus whereas only Matt really has a defined role on the staff right now.
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2 wrong hires
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Nothing is going to happen...we know this
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quitting would be the worst thing to happen. Lavin quit on us, per se, and we wound up with arguably the worst roster in the history of major D1 basketball. My hope is Mullin brings in the talent and the next coach has a team he can with with right away. A la Lavin. What Mullin does over the next 3 years will either set us up for better seasons ahead, or IMO opinion burry us for a very, very long time.
Mullin needs to make a great hire to make this work. A badass, a guy who straightens these fckn guys out.
I like a guy like Mike Rice. Plenty of exp. Nothing against Mitch, but he has to go and be replaced w a sharp coach w a lot of college exp. I think he should also get rid of St. Jean and replace him w a bigman coach.
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Baldi still upset with the Slice ending.
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Who tells you he is not working hard enough - Slice the man who did nothing or Jeff Goodman who hates Chris
Name your sources it is easy to say things without any proof and other people believe it because it is coming from you
Let the season play out and see what happens before you through these guys under the bus.
You seem to have some grudge against Matt and Mitch
Have you been to any practices to see what Mitch does or is it from your unnamed sources.
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He needs to walk away sooner than later for the sake of the program. There's talent signed up for the next couple years. Can't have him pull a Lavin and leave 3-4 years from now with no players
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Who tells you he is not working hard enough - Slice the man who did nothing or Jeff Goodman who hates Chris
Name your sources it is easy to say things without any proof and other people believe it because it is coming from you
Let the season play out and see what happens before you through these guys under the bus.
You seem to have some grudge against Matt and Mitch
Have you been to any practices to see what Mitch does or is it from your unnamed sources.
Waxed by the #341 team in D1 at home.
Who isn't laughing at this program?
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He was the last coach I would have hired, but he wanted this, and they stupidly took a huge in hiring him. Hopefully, both sides realize the mistake they've made, and the university hired a real
Coach this spring.
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Not all coaches are created equally. Hard work doesn't automatically equate to being a great coach in any sport. Jim Harbaugh has been a great coach at the college and pro level. Some are more talented than others at their given craft. Mullin has a long way to go to be mentioned in that air.
If you watched the Michigan game. You would notice that harbaugh is the furthest thing from mullin . pregame he had receiver gloves on and was catching passes from the starting QB. During key momknenag and almost all moments in the game he was the man. He prepared all season to be the man. He participated all game week. And he was the man on game day .
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Baldi - who do you want to coach - SJU - and from all your sources - who would should be the next coach.
And please don't say somebody like Seth Greenberg.
If they were to make a change they should hire the coach from Manhattan and keep Matt - regardless of what you say - he works hard
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Baldi - who do you want to coach - SJU - and from all your sources - who would should be the next coach.
And please don't say somebody like Seth Greenberg.
The guy who was ready to come here before Mullin stepped in. That's who I want to be the coach
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Mullin should pick up the phone and bring Jeff Ruland in to work with the bigs.
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Willis Reed use to help out at SJU - rather call him than Jeff Ruland.
Out of all the people why is Jeff Ruland the one - didn't he do a lousy job at Iona.
Why not Walter Berry - I think he was pretty good with big man moves and played with Chris.
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Does Mullin have enough insight to realize he is over his head? Would he step down and admit he is not ready to coach a division one basketball team.
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Give the man a chance - Coach K - Struggled at first at Duke.
Bill Parcel struggled his first year with the Giants.
If in year three no improvements then decide if you want to make a change.
Show some loyalty the man he deserves that much from SJU fans.
Just because someone on the board through his unnamed sources - says he doesn't work hard doesn't make it true,
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On the bright side of things. There is no where to go but up. Losing last night is rock bottom!
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Baldi - who do you want to coach - SJU - and from all your sources - who would should be the next coach.
And please don't say somebody like Seth Greenberg.
If they were to make a change they should hire the coach from Manhattan and keep Matt - regardless of what you say - he works hard
I'll take Seth Greenberg in a NY minute over the lazy and clueless
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Give the man a chance - Coach K - Struggled at first at Duke.
Bill Parcel struggled his first year with the Giants.
If in year three no improvements then decide if you want to make a change.
Show some loyalty the man he deserves that much from SJU fans.
Just because someone on the board through his unnamed sources - says he doesn't work hard doesn't make it true,
How much of a chance does he get? I've seen enough. He's awful. He might be worse than Roberts and Mahoney.
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Willis Reed use to help out at SJU - rather call him than Jeff Ruland.
Out of all the people why is Jeff Ruland the one - didn't he do a lousy job at Iona.
Why not Walter Berry - I think he was pretty good with big man moves and played with Chris.
Jesus Christ. We DON'T need more people who aren't coaches. It was a terrible decision when Mullin was hired, and now you think we should make it even worse?
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Didn't Seth Greenberg - get fire at Virginia Tech - and how come no other programs want him for there jobs.
If he couldn't recruit at Virginia Tech and have success there how would he have success in the Big East.
Switch coaches take the young man from Manhattan and keep Matt.
Willis Reed for your information assisted Coach Lou and also coach in the professional ranks
And one of the greatest centers of all time.
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What if I told you he wasn't workin hard enough? Or if I heard that Mullin and Richomnd don't work anywhere near hard enough?
I'd think you were talking out your ass.
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Not all coaches are created equally. Hard work doesn't automatically equate to being a great coach in any sport. Jim Harbaugh has been a great coach at the college and pro level. Some are more talented than others at their given craft. Mullin has a long way to go to be mentioned in that air.
If you watched the Michigan game. You would notice that harbaugh is the furthest thing from mullin . pregame he had receiver gloves on and was catching passes from the starting QB. During key momknenag and almost all moments in the game he was the man. He prepared all season to be the man. He participated all game week. And he was the man on game day .
My point exactly.
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Didn't Seth Greenberg - get fire at Virginia Tech - and how come no other programs want him for there jobs.
If he couldn't recruit at Virginia Tech and have success there how would he have success in the Big East.
Switch coaches take the young man from Manhattan and keep Matt.
Willis Reed for your information assisted Coach Lou and also coach in the professional ranks
And one of the greatest centers of all time.
Wills Reed is only 75, maybe they should bring in someone with more seasoning.
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He still knows the game.
Who is your suggestion?
Also yesterday game everything went right for Delaware State - the clock running out and the guy banks a three pointer.
There is no loyalty on this board - give the guy a chance.
The best thing is that unnamed sources - name the program or give us some clue who is saying this about Chris.
They were laughing at SJU because they gave your boy Slice 500K for doing nothing.
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He still knows the game.
Who is your suggestion?
I don't have a suggestion. I'm not so naive as to think there's one thing wrong and one thing that'll fix it. Fire Mitch Richmond so we can finally win some games, it's nice personic.
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1. Teams don't have a "big man coach". They just have coaches. Midgets and former point guards like Izzo, Donovan, our own Lou, and Jeff van gundy have all worked with the big men and developed plenty of centers.
2. It's ridiculous to conclude at this junction that Mullin was a terrible hire. Running a program is a marathon not a sprint.
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If Lavin did anything right, was put together a team that complimented his weaknesses: Dunlap (x o's coach), Hines (player development), Chiles (recruiter), and even when Dunlap left, he hired Whitesell.
Mullin seems to have hired friends. Once the season ends, if Mullin has any interest in getting better, he'd move Richmond back to special assistant and hire an experienced coach. Move St. Jean to a complimentary role.
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Has anybody been to practice to see what Richmond is doing.
Everybody just think he is lazy because unnamed sources said so and one person on the board says it so.
Give him a chance also - why should he be one the one calling the plays.
He is just getting his feet wet in the job - just because this one person has it in for Matt and Mitch doesn't mean its true
The guy thought Slice was so wonderful didn't bring anything to the table and Coach Cal and Dixon - seem to be doing alright with out the great recruiter.
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Has anybody been to practice to see what Richmond is doing.
Everybody just think he is lazy because unnamed sources said so and one person on the board says it so.
Give him a chance also - why should he be one the one calling the plays.
He is just getting his feet wet in the job - just because this one person has it in for Matt and Mitch doesn't mean its true
The guy thought Slice was so wonderful didn't bring anything to the table and Coach Cal and Dixon - seem to be doing alright with out the great recruiter.
Has Richmond even been to practice?
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Folks already want Mullin fired or to step down? My lord, this place is too much...
There is no way he's getting fired or is stepping down. Ridiculous..
Reality check , St. John's hasn't been good for, approaching, 20 years. They have awful facilities and campus. Face the facts, we are a bottom tier big east team now and have been for a while.
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Once the season ends, if Mullin has any interest in getting better, he'd move Richmond back to special assistant and hire an experienced coach. Move St. Jean to a complimentary role.
This is what is going to have to happen in order for Mullin to succeed.
It is the most sensible and easiest move to make this offseason. If Mullin doesn't at least make this move after the season I would seriously doubt his intelligence and fitness for the job.
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Have you been to practice - or is it from one of your unnamed sources as always.
Richmond deserve a chance to succeed I am sure Richmond is doing more than your man Slice did.
Show SJU some loyalty like you do to Iona.
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Give the man a chance - Coach K - Struggled at first at Duke.
Bill Parcel struggled his first year with the Giants.
If in year three no improvements then decide if you want to make a change.
Show some loyalty the man he deserves that much from SJU fans.
Just because someone on the board through his unnamed sources - says he doesn't work hard doesn't make it true,
You do know Coach K and Parcells did have some coaching experience prior to becoming head coaches, right?
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I had not heard that re: Mullin (haven't heard anything about Mitch except that the kids like him and that certain recruits and their parents/advisors are impressed obviously by his NBA credentials).
If that is true re: Mullin, I'd be bitterly disappointed. I fought the notion for a while with our prior coach, ignoring what UCLA and fans on this board said, but it turned out to be true on Lavin, especially when it came to recruiting the last few classes.
I've always thought (and hoped) this would work because (a) Chris Mullin is clearly a great basketball mind that has been around great basketball minds forever (b) has always had the reputation of being a hard worker and (c) didn't see any scenario in which Coach took this job for a reason other than to give his all and return this program to where we think it should be. So if what you are hearing is true, that would be both shocking and incredibly disappointing.
Until someone tells me they've heard that Mullin isn't on campus enough, or is absent from practices ... I find it hard to believe he's not working hard.
He worked hard recruiting with Matt last summer, no? I didn't hear any complaints that he should've been at X event and was a no-show.
Maybe he's not the right guy for the job. We'll see. But I'm not gonna call him lazy unless I have something to base it on.
Just because he was successful as a player doesn't mean he doesn't have the fire to win anymore. Look at Jim Harbaugh.
What if I told you he wasn't workin hard enough? Or if I heard that Mullin and Richomnd don't work anywhere near hard enough?
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It is a sad, sad day to see how the faithful have turned on the legend only 6 games into his second season.
P.S. Great to see Marco back in form firing up the masses. Wasn't a fan of the kinder, gentlier Baldi we've seen so much of lately.
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Scheppy can you please repeat your talking points. For the thousandth time. ::)
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Scheppy can you please repeat your talking points. For the thousandth time. ::)
Isn't it cute watching him trying to convince himself?
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Answer to the question Re: Coaching staff...what needs to happen? They need to have an epiphany. But I am afraid even that might not be enough.
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I'm sure the current staff could learn whatever they need on their own by next year.
I have stopped watching this season (can only handle so much negativity) and didn't see the Del St. game, but I assume the staff was once again too stubborn to play zone. Embracing the zone and utilizing multiple defensive looks will go a long way IMO. I've expressed the zone concern since the start of last year.
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I'm sure the current staff could learn whatever they need on their own by next year.
I have stopped watching this season (can only handle so much negativity) and didn't see the Del St. game, but I assume the staff was once again too stubborn to play zone. Embracing the zone and utilizing multiple defensive looks will go a long way IMO. I've expressed the zone concern since the start of last year.
I agree and disagree. I think in theory zone is a good idea. however, the lack of basketball iq and any semblance of a system leads me to believe that this team's zone might be even more of a disaster than its man. that said, they're losing to delaware state, so might as well try. they also look ok applying pressure, so dropping into a zone would work. also, the guards rebound better than the bigs, which is good for a zone, so a lot of merit to at least trying it out
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It's not as easy as some are making it out to be here. You don't just pickup a basketball 101 book and learn how to coach. If it was that easy, there'd be many more people getting into the coaching business.
Sure the staff can learn to implement a better system on offense and defense but they really need to understand it and make it part of their core philosophy. Mullin does not have an experienced X's and O's guy on the current staff. Until they shake up the staff do not expect resuts to improve dramatically. That's insanity and we all know the definition of that. And to think, I thought Lavin was a bad in-game coach until this current regime.
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I still hold to my initial belief. I get people on here have commented and it might be true that Marc Jackson does not have a great relationship with the school at this point. However, I still believe that a call should have at least been made to him or tried to patch things up and considered him for the HC role when Lav was let go. Alum and experienced coach in the NBA. Would have built a staff and kids would have respected him for helping build the Warriors. If the boosters can fund the bill for Mullin, why could they not for an experienced coach (even if not Marc)?
No excuse at all with this team to lose to Delaware State. I barely could handle shutout in Atlantis. This team needed an experienced coach to take the team forward. We are in danger of missing NIT with this type of play, which imo is going 2 steps backward. This team had the talent to at least make that this year. Hopefully the team will get better- only thing that is a saving grace is the stacked transfers coming in next year.
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Celtics 11 - instead of kissing Baldi - ass like you always do - show some loyalty to SJU.
I notice if Baldi says something you always agree - I notice if he mentions Iona - you are the first one to stick up for him.
Quit kissing his ass and ask Mr. Unnamed sources - where is he getting his information from.
Just because your hero hates this coaching staff because - Slice didn't do anything show some loyalty to SJU.
You and him should be ashamed of yourselves calling Matt - Little Napolen - who is working his ass of for SJU
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Coach Lapchick never coached before he got here. He told me he was uncomfortable in his role for the full first season but he was successful right from the start. Looie had great training at St. Ann's and with Coach Lapchick but was very average for many years until he went to the pros and returned. The tournament winning for Coach Lou's first 8-9 years was done only by Coach Mulzoff in Lou's absence. We did do tourneys but always one and done.in a then, much smaller world.
Coach Boeheim had no prior experience when he came to SU. He was a really lousy coach for years feasting on a div.2 schedule until Pearl Washington came along and made it easy for him to coach. He admits as much now in public.
There really is no rigid formula for prior experience producing success. Coach Mullin has a great attitude and superior training as a human being. He should make it; you gotta be patient.
I agree with some of you on the absence of trying the zone or even a zone press in the last game; . With our quickness we should be able to produce many more stops and steals and mayhem on defense in most games. With the big guys, you just have to wait. Except for 1 or maybe 2, they play without any sense but big guys always do that for a year or two. Let's win at Tulane and start over, again..
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What needs to happen to the coaching staff?
They need to coach a roster of players that isn't collectively the youngest in Division 1.
Do any of you remember how often Lavin would tell us that? The difference here is that Mullin doesn't make excuses after every game. And, the youngest Lavin team still had 5x more talent than we do now. Any of the following would be the best player on thisnteam: Harkless, Sampson, Pointer, Harrison, Jordan.
It's the youngest team in college basketball, and the talent isn't overflowing!
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Actually, I believe Jeff Ruland was at the game last night. Enjoy that Scheppy
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
If he is so great why doesn't he have another job after Iona
Give to Walter Berry
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
You mean the 2016 Great Alaska shootout champions GAELS?
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
You mean the 2016 Great Alaska shootout champions GAELS?
What the hell happened to that tournament? Not taking anything away for the mighty GAELS, but the field is nowhere close to what it use to be.
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What needs to happen to the coaching staff?
They need to coach a roster of players that isn't collectively the youngest in Division 1.
Do any of you remember how often Lavin would tell us that? The difference here is that Mullin doesn't make excuses after every game. And, the youngest Lavin team still had 5x more talent than we do now. Any of the following would be the best player on thisnteam: Harkless, Sampson, Pointer, Harrison, Jordan.
It's the youngest team in college basketball, and the talent isn't overflowing!
I agree. This could have happened to that squad as well. They were more talented, even after that sissy Lindsay quit after 7 games. Still, the staff has to respond to this. A change is needed to get through to this team. They played like it didn't matter.
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My buddy and brother used to see Big Jeff chasing his players out of the bars on North Ave. said it was hysterical!
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
You mean the 2016 Great Alaska shootout champions GAELS?
What the hell happened to that tournament? Not taking anything away for the mighty GAELS, but the field is nowhere close to what it use to be.
Ya I don't know. The whole time change this is a PIA. Games are on at 2am
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Patience boys.....when your 3 best players are 2 freshmen and a JUCO there will be growing pains. I believe that the disgraceful performance VS Delaware will be the motivating factor the staff needs to turn things around. Watching film of a game where the team took 37 threes, doesn't work the ball etc etc will be depressing to everyone and, hopefully, will help to turn things around. It is irrational to worry about the staff at this point. By midseason this team will be fine. If not, weve been there before.
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I hate to support Baldi,however Mullin's coaching skills have been questioned privately by the basketball community even as far back as last year. His problems with Slice over how to run a D 1 Program hasn't helped Chris. I had a top Basketball Ref (Champion Games) tell me " Mullin has no F ing clue on how to run a D1 Program. I'm afraid if things don't turn around quickly the Media will not be kind.
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
You mean the 2016 Great Alaska shootout champions GAELS?
What the hell happened to that tournament? Not taking anything away for the mighty GAELS, but the field is nowhere close to what it use to be.
Ya I don't know. The whole time change this is a PIA. Games are on at 2am
The tournament is no longer popular, so they have to get in where they fit in, so to speak (when it comes to time and tv coverage). I wouldn't be surprised to see that particular tournament phased out in a few years.
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Celtics 11 - instead of kissing Baldi - ass like you always do - show some loyalty to SJU.
I notice if Baldi says something you always agree - I notice if he mentions Iona - you are the first one to stick up for him.
Quit kissing his ass and ask Mr. Unnamed sources - where is he getting his information from.
Just because your hero hates this coaching staff because - Slice didn't do anything show some loyalty to SJU.
You and him should be ashamed of yourselves calling Matt - Little Napolen - who is working his ass of for SJU
All I said in my post directed toward you was that you constantly repeat yourself. I didn't even say I disagree with you. So put the bottle down and sober up a bit before you make a post where everything in it is not true.
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I hate to support Baldi,however Mullin's coaching skills have been questioned privately by the basketball community even as far back as last year. His problems with Slice over how to run a D 1 Program hasn't helped Chris. I had a top Basketball Ref (Champion Games) tell me " Mullin has no F ing clue on how to run a D1 Program. I'm afraid if things don't turn around quickly the Media will not be kind.
The media should, it doesn't matter who he is IMO
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Actually, I believe Jeff Ruland was at the game last night. Enjoy that Scheppy
Was he? I think I would've noticed a 7 footer walking around.
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Actually, I believe Jeff Ruland was at the game last night. Enjoy that Scheppy
Was he? I think I would've noticed a 7 footer walking around.
Someone said he was there scouting for the Wizards. who knows
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Actually, I believe Jeff Ruland was at the game last night. Enjoy that Scheppy
Was he? I think I would've noticed a 7 footer walking around.
Someone said he was there scouting for the Wizards. who knows
Who on Delaware St. was he looking at?
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
You mean the 2016 Great Alaska shootout champions GAELS?
What the hell happened to that tournament? Not taking anything away for the mighty GAELS, but the field is nowhere close to what it use to be.
There are so many more tournaments now than there used to be and all of them are in better places to go than Alaska
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
You mean the 2016 Great Alaska shootout champions GAELS?
What the hell happened to that tournament? Not taking anything away for the mighty GAELS, but the field is nowhere close to what it use to be.
There are so many more tournaments now than there used to be and all of them are in better places to go than Alaska
Even when we were in it last it was barely broadcast on tv. And that was with the Kennedy/Hardy team.
But I temember the broadcast being especially awful.
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And he was a bust coaching at Iona - SJU don't need any help from Iona
You mean the 2016 Great Alaska shootout champions GAELS?
What the hell happened to that tournament? Not taking anything away for the mighty GAELS, but the field is nowhere close to what it use to be.
There are so many more tournaments now than there used to be and all of them are in better places to go than Alaska
Even when we were in it last it was barely broadcast on tv. And that was with the Kennedy/Hardy team.
But I temember the broadcast being especially awful.
Yeah that really was an awful broadcast, it made last night's game look like 4K.
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I have stopped watching this season
Wtf?
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Actually, I believe Jeff Ruland was at the game last night. Enjoy that Scheppy
Was he? I think I would've noticed a 7 footer walking around.
Someone said he was there scouting for the Wizards. who knows
Who on Delaware St. was he looking at?
Maybe the coach?
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Baldi - I would like to know your sources - but I am sure them or you have never been to practice - to see what Richmond is doing.
I will continue to give them the benefit of the doubt until the end of year 3 and if no progress then I feel a change should happen.
But I have to admit you sure know talent you were right about Richardson being the steal of the draft he is the only number one draft pick averaging over 25 points a game in the D-League.
What other first round pick is doing that
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I hate to support Baldi,however Mullin's coaching skills have been questioned privately by the basketball community even as far back as last year. His problems with Slice over how to run a D 1 Program hasn't helped Chris. I had a top Basketball Ref (Champion Games) tell me " Mullin has no F ing clue on how to run a D1 Program. I'm afraid if things don't turn around quickly the Media will not be kind.
I think all reasonable posters understood that Mullin had no clue how to run a program. How could he? I still think he and his staff can learn, but you only do that through trial and error and making mistakes. Why not bring in a special assistant like Pete Gillen or Dave Margarity (current Army Womens coach)?
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Brining in an experienced coach will absolutely help the situation! But we are going to pay a head coach 2 million, a fired assistant 500 thousand, another coach like Pete gillen who couldn't cut it in the big east 500 thousand. Plus much Richmond 500, 000. That makes sense?
You guys love mullin that much? Paying guys 3 million to not coach basketball seems high. Plus they need a babysitter
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Brining in an experienced coach will absolutely help the situation! But we are going to pay a head coach 2 million, a fired assistant 500 thousand, another coach like Pete gillen who couldn't cut it in the big east 500 thousand. Plus much Richmond 500, 000. That makes sense?
You guys love mullin that much? Paying guys 3 million to not coach basketball seems high. Plus they need a babysitter
Maybe if you yelled louder at the games that would help. Use the magic that made you such a successful CYO coach to help out poor Chris Mullin.
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I have never seen a fan base so concerned with what the assistant coaches do day to day. If they had a reality show following around every guy who was ever an assistant coach the only one I would watch would be the Rico Hines episode.
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Bring Tim O'Toole back as an assistant, would help us implement the zone.
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Where's Digger Phelps when you need him!
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Never been the same since Al Labalbo left us....
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Think the staff needs the fan base to chill out. The talent isn't here yet. Lets get a front line that can catch a pass, rebound the ball, and be an offensive threat and then judge them. I think many players would like to play in his system. It gives players an opportunity to show case their talents. This is a 3-4 year rebuild. Need to be patient. There is some concern on the defensive side of the ball but I don't want to say the staff doesn't have a clue. Mullin has plenty of support, its not just who is on the staff, he isn't doing this by himself. He's smart enough to reach out to others. Change isn't instantaneous.
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Think the staff needs the fan base to chill out. The talent isn't here yet. Lets get a front line that can catch a pass, rebound the ball, and be an offensive threat and then judge them. I think many players would like to play in his system. It gives players an opportunity to show case their talents. This is a 3-4 year rebuild. Need to be patient. There is some concern on the defensive side of the ball but I don't want to say the staff doesn't have a clue. Mullin has plenty of support, its not just who is on the staff, he isn't doing this by himself. He's smart enough to reach out to others. Change isn't instantaneous.
They don't have to make the tournament in his second year, but improvement needs to be there and it needs to be clear that Mullin has an actual system. An attractive one because he wants scorers, but also one that knows how to win in the BE. Yakwe was good last year. What happened to him? Our players are regressing.
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Baldi - I would like to know your sources - but I am sure them or you have never been to practice - to see what Richmond is doing.
I will continue to give them the benefit of the doubt until the end of year 3 and if no progress then I feel a change should happen.
But I have to admit you sure know talent you were right about Richardson being the steal of the draft he is the only number one draft pick averaging over 25 points a game in the D-League.
What other first round pick is doing that
With every post, Johnnyjungle loses posters. The human condom
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Brining in an experienced coach will absolutely help the situation! But we are going to pay a head coach 2 million, a fired assistant 500 thousand, another coach like Pete gillen who couldn't cut it in the big east 500 thousand. Plus much Richmond 500, 000. That makes sense?
You guys love mullin that much? Paying guys 3 million to not coach basketball seems high. Plus they need a babysitter
Pete Gillen couldn't cut it in the Big East? He made the Elite 8 and lost in OT to eventual champs Arizona in 97. He also went to the NCAA tournament 7 times in 9 years at Xavier before that, going 202-75!
He's from Brooklyn and his 96-97 team was very similar to our roster now. Rueben Garces, Austin Croshere, Jamell Thomas, and God Shamgod are all similar to what Sima, RF, Clark, and Lovett could be with development.
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Think the staff needs the fan base to chill out. The talent isn't here yet. Lets get a front line that can catch a pass, rebound the ball, and be an offensive threat and then judge them. I think many players would like to play in his system. It gives players an opportunity to show case their talents. This is a 3-4 year rebuild. Need to be patient. There is some concern on the defensive side of the ball but I don't want to say the staff doesn't have a clue. Mullin has plenty of support, its not just who is on the staff, he isn't doing this by himself. He's smart enough to reach out to others. Change isn't instantaneous.
We have SIGNIFICANTLY more talent than Delaware St
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Think the staff needs the fan base to chill out. The talent isn't here yet. Lets get a front line that can catch a pass, rebound the ball, and be an offensive threat and then judge them. I think many players would like to play in his system. It gives players an opportunity to show case their talents. This is a 3-4 year rebuild. Need to be patient. There is some concern on the defensive side of the ball but I don't want to say the staff doesn't have a clue. Mullin has plenty of support, its not just who is on the staff, he isn't doing this by himself. He's smart enough to reach out to others. Change isn't instantaneous.
We have SIGNIFICANTLY more talent than Delaware St
Yup, losing to a Big East team is one thing but to lose to Delaware St, ODU, Inc. Wood and D-2 teams is inexcusable.
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Think the staff needs the fan base to chill out. The talent isn't here yet. Lets get a front line that can catch a pass, rebound the ball, and be an offensive threat and then judge them. I think many players would like to play in his system. It gives players an opportunity to show case their talents. This is a 3-4 year rebuild. Need to be patient. There is some concern on the defensive side of the ball but I don't want to say the staff doesn't have a clue. Mullin has plenty of support, its not just who is on the staff, he isn't doing this by himself. He's smart enough to reach out to others. Change isn't instantaneous.
We have SIGNIFICANTLY more talent than Delaware St
Yet our "talent" shot 32% from 3 and their "talent" shot 53% from 3. Our "talent" couldn't score against them. That isn't coaching....that's lack of talent. This isn't a running and jumping contest. Its basketball which requires skill. Now don't get me wrong I do have concerns. While running and jumping may not necessarily translate into good offense it damn sure could translate into great defense. And although some of our players lateral movement can improve we can't allow Del St. to shoot damn near 60%! That is unacceptable and that is on the staff. The defense must play better and I'm concerned that the staff will only provide lip service with respect to the defense and still spend most of their practice time on offense. I don't know if the staff believes in emphasizing defense, it doesn't appear like it. Similar to the Knicks putting Rambis in charge of the defense. That's a joke.
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Think the staff needs the fan base to chill out. The talent isn't here yet. Lets get a front line that can catch a pass, rebound the ball, and be an offensive threat and then judge them. I think many players would like to play in his system. It gives players an opportunity to show case their talents. This is a 3-4 year rebuild. Need to be patient. There is some concern on the defensive side of the ball but I don't want to say the staff doesn't have a clue. Mullin has plenty of support, its not just who is on the staff, he isn't doing this by himself. He's smart enough to reach out to others. Change isn't instantaneous.
We have SIGNIFICANTLY more talent than Delaware St
Yet our "talent" shot 32% from 3 and their "talent" shot 53% from 3. Our "talent" couldn't score against them. That isn't coaching....that's lack of talent. This isn't a running and jumping contest. Its basketball which requires skill. Now don't get me wrong I do have concerns. While running and jumping may not necessarily translate into good offense it damn sure could translate into great defense. And although some of our players lateral movement can improve we can't allow Del St. to shoot damn near 60%! That is unacceptable and that is on the staff. The defense must play better and I'm concerned that the staff will only provide lip service with respect to the defense and still spend most of their practice time on offense. I don't know if the staff believes in emphasizing defense, it doesn't appear like it. Similar to the Knicks putting Rambis in charge of the defense. That's a joke.
Against Del. St. we should not be shooting 3's all game. We should be penetrating, using our size advantage and forcing them to foul instead of playing right into their hands. We do have the clear talent edge over that team and we did nothing to take advantage of it. That is coaching.
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This fan base saw the difference Dunlap made w Lavin. We saw a top assistant cover up coaching difficiencies. But as a previous poster said ,there is only so much severence pay SJU could afford.
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Lets see how the year plays out -maybe the time conference starts they can be jelling.
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using our size advantage
How? By pounding it inside to Darien Williams? Even when they manage to catch a pass the bigs don't finish.
We do have the clear talent edge over that team
Other than Ponds and Lovett what "talent" is there on this team? Sima and Yawke are potential studs but incredibly raw - I look forward to watching them dominate their opponents in a year or two. Ellison Mussini and the German stink at present and the rest of them are useless.
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using our size advantage
How? By pounding it inside to Darien Williams? Even when they manage to catch a pass the bigs don't finish.
We do have the clear talent edge over that team
Other than Ponds and Lovett what "talent" is there on this team? Sima and Yawke are potential studs but incredibly raw - I look forward to watching them dominate their opponents in a year or two. Ellison Mussini and the German stink at present and the rest of them are useless.
I think Sima has a ceiling. Right now he is ok simply because of his size. He is not a freak athlete, just kind of long.
Yakwe and Ahmed are the keys to us being better than last year and thus showing tangible progress
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using our size advantage
How? By pounding it inside to Darien Williams? Even when they manage to catch a pass the bigs don't finish.
We do have the clear talent edge over that team
Other than Ponds and Lovett what "talent" is there on this team? Sima and Yawke are potential studs but incredibly raw - I look forward to watching them dominate their opponents in a year or two. Ellison Mussini and the German stink at present and the rest of them are useless.
Obviously we are more talented than Del. St. No one in their right mind would say otherwise. Taking advantage of that talent is a different story. Yakwe clearly looks like he needs to be coached up out there. His shot blocking ability is off the charts. The rest of his game is lost right now. Sima looks very timid to me, moreso than last year. He looks scared when he gets the ball. I think they got away from the strategy in the first 3 games where Lovett looked to be a true PG and floor general. I think the coaching staff needs to let him QB the offense, along with Ponds, and either get open shots or drive and dish. This is the same shit as last year. When you don't have a QB running the offense out there, it's like 5 guys running around with their heads cut off. Too much one on one right now and the staff needs to correct that with a systematic offensive gameplan.
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using our size advantage
How? By pounding it inside to Darien Williams? Even when they manage to catch a pass the bigs don't finish.
We do have the clear talent edge over that team
Other than Ponds and Lovett what "talent" is there on this team? Sima and Yawke are potential studs but incredibly raw - I look forward to watching them dominate their opponents in a year or two. Ellison Mussini and the German stink at present and the rest of them are useless.
Obviously we are more talented than Del. St. No one in their right mind would say otherwise. Taking advantage of that talent is a different story. Yakwe clearly looks like he needs to be coached up out there. His shot blocking ability is off the charts. The rest of his game is lost right now. Sima looks very timid to me, moreso than last year. He looks scared when he gets the ball. I think they got away from the strategy in the first 3 games where Lovett looked to be a true PG and floor general. I think the coaching staff needs to let him QB the offense, along with Ponds, and either get open shots or drive and dish. This is the same shit as last year. When you don't have a QB running the offense out there, it's like 5 guys running around with their heads cut off. Too much one on one right now and the staff needs to correct that with a systematic offensive gameplan.
+1
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Trust the process
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Love Zach article stating that Mullin don't care about social media laughing at SJU
Stay positive and he will get the last laugh when SJU turns the corner to becoming a winner team
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What needs to happen to the coaching staff?
They need to coach a roster of players that isn't collectively the youngest in Division 1.
Do any of you remember how often Lavin would tell us that? The difference here is that Mullin doesn't make excuses after every game. And, the youngest Lavin team still had 5x more talent than we do now. Any of the following would be the best player on thisnteam: Harkless, Sampson, Pointer, Harrison, Jordan.
It's the youngest team in college basketball, and the talent isn't overflowing!
As freshmen? No way I take half those guys over ponds or lovett.
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Other than Ponds and Lovett what "talent" is there on this team?
It appears that Bob Cousy Bashir has talent as a scorer.
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Love Zach article stating that Mullin don't care about social media laughing at SJU
Stay positive and he will get the last laugh when SJU turns the corner to becoming a winner team
Of course that is Mullin's response.. has to be.. I'm sure he's still confident.
As per usual, us message board folk are over reacting ( myself included). Still very early in this whole process.. Have to give it a lot more time before calling for people's head, Especially Chris Mullin...
If you assumed this would be easy sledding you haven't paid attention the last 20 years..
It's hysterical that no matter who is coaching this team, the board has the same reactions.. There was never a doubt Baldi would come in hot with his annual so-in-so isn't working hard enough proclamation... Never change
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Love Zach article stating that Mullin don't care about social media laughing at SJU
Stay positive and he will get the last laugh when SJU turns the corner to becoming a winner team
Of course that is Mullin's response.. has to be.. I'm sure he's still confident.
As per usual, us message board folk are over reacting ( myself included). Still very early in this whole process.. Have to give it a lot more time before calling for people's head, Especially Chris Mullin...
If you assumed this would be easy sledding you haven't paid attention the last 20 years..
It's hysterical that no matter who is coaching this team, the board has the same reactions.. There was never a doubt Baldi would come in hot with his annual so-in-so isn't working hard enough proclamation... Never change
Ya its my fault we are getting waxed
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Norm Roberts got six years. I think we can give Mullin more than six games into his second season to figure it out.
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Love Zach article stating that Mullin don't care about social media laughing at SJU
Stay positive and he will get the last laugh when SJU turns the corner to becoming a winner team
Of course that is Mullin's response.. has to be.. I'm sure he's still confident.
As per usual, us message board folk are over reacting ( myself included). Still very early in this whole process.. Have to give it a lot more time before calling for people's head, Especially Chris Mullin...
If you assumed this would be easy sledding you haven't paid attention the last 20 years..
It's hysterical that no matter who is coaching this team, the board has the same reactions.. There was never a doubt Baldi would come in hot with his annual so-in-so isn't working hard enough proclamation... Never change
Ya its my fault we are getting waxed
Reading comprehension....
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Too much one on one right now and the staff needs to correct that with a systematic offensive gameplan.
No one is going to disagree with that. But to pretend that we're running out half a dozen AAs and Chris Mullin and Mitch Richmond are ruining them is silly. This is a very young team with three first year players who are pretty good. The rest of them range from mediocre to pointless.
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Love Zach article stating that Mullin don't care about social media laughing at SJU
Stay positive and he will get the last laugh when SJU turns the corner to becoming a winner team
Of course that is Mullin's response.. has to be.. I'm sure he's still confident.
As per usual, us message board folk are over reacting ( myself included). Still very early in this whole process.. Have to give it a lot more time before calling for people's head, Especially Chris Mullin...
If you assumed this would be easy sledding you haven't paid attention the last 20 years..
It's hysterical that no matter who is coaching this team, the board has the same reactions.. There was never a doubt Baldi would come in hot with his annual so-in-so isn't working hard enough proclamation... Never change
Ya its my fault we are getting waxed
Reading comprehension....
I'm not the only one saying it
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Can someone tell me what the players did this summer to get better?
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Can someone tell me what the players did this summer to get better?
Water safety certification?
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Can someone tell me what the players did this summer to get better?
Stuff
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Can someone tell me what the players did this summer to get better?
At least Lavin's players traveled over the summer.
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Love Zach article stating that Mullin don't care about social media laughing at SJU
Stay positive and he will get the last laugh when SJU turns the corner to becoming a winner team
Of course that is Mullin's response.. has to be.. I'm sure he's still confident.
As per usual, us message board folk are over reacting ( myself included). Still very early in this whole process.. Have to give it a lot more time before calling for people's head, Especially Chris Mullin...
If you assumed this would be easy sledding you haven't paid attention the last 20 years..
It's hysterical that no matter who is coaching this team, the board has the same reactions.. There was never a doubt Baldi would come in hot with his annual so-in-so isn't working hard enough proclamation... Never change
Ya its my fault we are getting waxed
Reading comprehension....
I'm not the only one saying it
I didn't say that either...I was just saying that you say it every year...
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Love Zach article stating that Mullin don't care about social media laughing at SJU
Stay positive and he will get the last laugh when SJU turns the corner to becoming a winner team
Of course that is Mullin's response.. has to be.. I'm sure he's still confident.
As per usual, us message board folk are over reacting ( myself included). Still very early in this whole process.. Have to give it a lot more time before calling for people's head, Especially Chris Mullin...
If you assumed this would be easy sledding you haven't paid attention the last 20 years..
It's hysterical that no matter who is coaching this team, the board has the same reactions.. There was never a doubt Baldi would come in hot with his annual so-in-so isn't working hard enough proclamation... Never change
Ya its my fault we are getting waxed
Reading comprehension....
I'm not the only one saying it
I didn't say that either...I was just saying that you say it every year...
Ya us and DePaul
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If only Dallas Comegys was coaching DePaul...
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If only Dallas Comegys was coaching DePaul...
If only
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Baldi - you always complain about my posts - but once can you say something positive about the SJU coaching staff
Make believe you are posting about Iona
Most people outsiders want to give Mullin and staff a chance but not you and your invisible unnamed sources
Say what ever you want about me but I am loyal to SJU not like you.
Do you go to practice ever - give Richmond a chance.
You don't like Matt because he likes to tell everybody how hard he works and you don't like Mitch because he keeps a low profile.
Zach B - who has real sources says people within the program says they are going to play more aggressive and play more zone.
Looks like Chris is already willing to make adjustments to improve the team
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Win a game and I'll say something nice.
Until then, beatings will commence until morale improves
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Baldi - you always complain about my posts - but once can you say something positive about the SJU coaching staff
Make believe you are posting about Iona
Most people outsiders want to give Mullin and staff a chance but not you and your invisible unnamed sources
Say what ever you want about me but I am loyal to SJU not like you.
Do you go to practice ever - give Richmond a chance.
You don't like Matt because he likes to tell everybody how hard he works and you don't like Mitch because he keeps a low profile.
Zach B - who has real sources says people within the program says they are going to play more aggressive and play more zone.
Looks like Chris is already willing to make adjustments to improve the team
Who are most people? Right now, it's way too soon to write the book on Mullin's coaching career. Coaching, like a lot of things, requires practice when you've never done it before. I was against this hire even more than I was against Norm Roberts, but even Norm's players improved. 5 players returned after a year of Chris Mullin, and after 7 games it looks as if all 7 are worse than when they first arrived on campus.
He's not getting fired after we get killed tonight, or after we lost to some other cup cake, but I can't for the life of me figure out why Mullin is here for any reason other than that he's a name.
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The problem was I think there other choice they wanted Danny Hurley didn't want to come.
A lot of people liked the coach from Manhattan - and maybe if Chris decides to leave after this year he would be the right choice.
I actually thought Lavin was a great guy and a great finisher but after he missed the year with the cancer his heart wasn't in it any more.
I know that Tarrick Turner has no experience but I feel he would be a great choice
But since Chris is the coach now I would like to stay loyal to him until after the third year
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So let me understand - 7 games into season 2 and the first season with kids he picked/recruited etc. the masses are calling for Mullin's head. Really ?
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I know that Tarrick Turner has no experience but I feel he would be a great choice
Every time I think your credibility has bottomed out the floor gets lowered.
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So let me understand - 7 games into season 2 and the first season with kids he picked/recruited etc. the masses are calling for Mullin's head. Really ?
Yes . Have you seen the games ?
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Baldi - you always complain about my posts - but once can you say something positive about the SJU coaching staff
Make believe you are posting about Iona
Most people outsiders want to give Mullin and staff a chance but not you and your invisible unnamed sources
Say what ever you want about me but I am loyal to SJU not like you.
Do you go to practice ever - give Richmond a chance.
You don't like Matt because he likes to tell everybody how hard he works and you don't like Mitch because he keeps a low profile.
Zach B - who has real sources says people within the program says they are going to play more aggressive and play more zone.
Looks like Chris is already willing to make adjustments to improve the team
I know that Tarrick Turner has no experience but I feel he would be a great choice
Every time I think your credibility has bottomed out the floor gets lowered.
This we agree on. OMG Scheppy please tell me you were PWI when you wrote that ( posting while intoxicated )
Tarik is a great guy and in my opinion improved a lot on broadcasts but oh man come on
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So let me understand - 7 games into season 2 and the first season with kids he picked/recruited etc. the masses are calling for Mullin's head. Really ?
We lost to a team that hasn't won a non conference game against a D1 team in two years. We lost to a team that this year lost to Texas Southern at home, lost to UMBC by 22, Rice by 22 and Montana State by 25
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RPI at 270
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I too hope Tarik Turner was a joke...
Dec 2 and calling for Mullin's head...astonishing .
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I too hope Tarik Turner was a joke...
Dec 2 and calling for Mullin's head...astonishing .
Only going to get worse. How do you think we will do in conference?
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I too hope Tarik Turner was a joke...
Dec 2 and calling for Mullin's head...astonishing .
Only going to get worse. How do you think we will do in conference?
I disagree.. Not sure it can get much worse.. Only one way to go...up.. Team has talent, I think they will get better..
Guess it depends on your expectations... Do you really think over reacting and changing coaches every 3,4,5 years is the right way to run a basketball program? I don't.
School has put all their eggs in the Mullin basket.. For better or for worse.. He's not going anywhere...Norm and Lavin got 6 and 5 years respectively..
But, by all means, continue to bang your heads on the wall calling for change, yet again.
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RPI at 270
You're overplaying your hand. Your act only works so long as the reader remains convinced that you're actually a Saint John's fan. Try being a little less gleeful.
(http://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/fonzie-shark.jpg).
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I too hope Tarik Turner was a joke...
Dec 2 and calling for Mullin's head...astonishing .
Only going to get worse. How do you think we will do in conference?
I disagree.. Not sure it can get much worse.. Only one way to go...up.. Team has talent, I think they will get better..
Guess it depends on your expectations... Do you really think over reacting and changing coaches every 3,4,5 years is the right way to run a basketball program? I don't.
School has put all their eggs in the Mullin basket.. For better or for worse.. He's not going anywhere...Norm and Lavin got 6 and 5 years respectively..
But, by all means, continue to bang your heads on the wall calling for change, yet again.
I think the talk of getting rid of Mullin now is ridiculous. But hiring an experienced coach for an assistant is not. Like I said before, when you add up the coaching exp. of the whole staff it doesn't add up to much. Can't have every coach learn on the job. Last year Slice had exp., but he was known for recruiting not his coaching acumen.
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Foad who would you want for the coach - you always have a wise ass answer if somebody suggest something.
And don't say Seth Greenberg because you like his name - he got fire at Virginia Tech
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Foad who would you want for the coach - you always have a wise ass answer if somebody suggest something.
I don't want a new coach. I want better players.
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He starting to get better players next year he has a good center coming I and two transfers one from Michigan State and Arizona.
I just wished he had another strong recruiter because Matt cant be everywhere.
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RPI at 270
You're overplaying your hand. Your act only works so long as the reader remains convinced that you're actually a Saint John's fan. Try being a little less gleeful.
(http://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/fonzie-shark.jpg).
Yes. Maybe I"over looked" that
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Foad who would you want for the coach - you always have a wise ass answer if somebody suggest something.
I don't want a new coach. I want better players.
Foad, How would you rate Mullins coaching and do you think his inexperience is a factor?
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Foad, How would you rate Mullins coaching and do you think his inexperience is a factor?
I wouldn't rate his coaching. He is what his record says he is. Yes I think his inexperience is a factor. Of course it is. I also think the situation is a factor: he's half a dozen games into year two of a five year plan, starting from absolutely nothing. If he had better players he'd be a better coach, that I'm pretty sure of.
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Foad, How would you rate Mullins coaching and do you think his inexperience is a factor?
I wouldn't rate his coaching. He is what his record says he is. Yes I think his inexperience is a factor. Of course it is. I also think the situation is a factor: he's half a dozen games into year two of a five year plan, starting from absolutely nothing. If he had better players he'd be a better coach, that I'm pretty sure of.
He has better players than Delaware State does
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Plenty of good players . No team we played so far had much better players. Lovett, ponds, fredenburg, yakwe all 4 stars rivals . Owens, sima , Williams, 3 star rivals . I think mussini got 4 stars from scout. Stats don't mean everything but they mean something.
Decent coach with this team is .500. Good coach we are 5-2.
Anyone watching and thinking mullin knows what he is doing is lying to himself .
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Foad, How would you rate Mullins coaching and do you think his inexperience is a factor?
I wouldn't rate his coaching. He is what his record says he is. Yes I think his inexperience is a factor. Of course it is. I also think the situation is a factor: he's half a dozen games into year two of a five year plan, starting from absolutely nothing. If he had better players he'd be a better coach, that I'm pretty sure of.
He has better players than Delaware State does
And Indiana has better players than Wayne State. So what? No doubt Crean needs an X and O guru like Tom Pecora to help him on the sidelines. It was a bad loss. Shit happens. Before that there were the sort of normal losses that come with having young players. None of this - not even Delaware State - is all that surprising.
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Plenty of good players . No team we played so far had much better players. Lovett, ponds, fredenburg, yakwe all 4 stars rivals . Owens, sima , Williams, 3 star rivals . I think mussini got 4 stars from scout. Stats don't mean everything but they mean something.
Decent coach with this team is .500. Good coach we are 5-2.
Yes, Darien Williams is an excellent player and Federico Mussini is a dynamo. Baruq Owens is that magical sort of player who fouls out in 11 minutes. I wish we had four of him. And the German kid, what he's a wonder. Don't let that 2 for 11 from the field fool you, he's the best shooter I've seen since Jason Kapono. You certainly are a keen judge of talent.
Anyone watching and thinking mullin knows what he is doing is lying to himself .
Maybe you should give him some pointers. Send a cover latter telling him how you once coached a seventh grade girls team to a third place finish in an after school league and explain to him your theory about screaming at the players and not screaming at them because basketball is hard and easy. That might serve as his wake up call.
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Foad, How would you rate Mullins coaching and do you think his inexperience is a factor?
I wouldn't rate his coaching. He is what his record says he is. Yes I think his inexperience is a factor. Of course it is. I also think the situation is a factor: he's half a dozen games into year two of a five year plan, starting from absolutely nothing. If he had better players he'd be a better coach, that I'm pretty sure of.
He has better players than Delaware State does
And Indiana has better players than Wayne State. So what? No doubt Crean needs an X and O guru like Tom Pecora to help him on the sidelines. It was a bad loss. Shit happens. Before that there were the sort of normal losses that come with having young players. None of this - not even Delaware State - is all that surprising.
Delaware State is surprising. We were favored by 22 points. KenPom had it as the 3rd biggest upset in all of college basketball for the month of November
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Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. I am not a fan of mussini or Ellison. Every team except Michigan state would love to have both of them .
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Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. I am not a fan of mussini or Ellison. Every team except Michigan state would love to have both of them .
Nobody above the NEC or MAAC would touch Ellison with a 10 foot pole. Let's be real now
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Just curious, did anyone notice that Mullin's home in Manhasset is up for sale since early November?
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Mullin has about as much talent as Norm Roberts did during the 05/06 season. We did what St.John's fans have done for ages. We had unreasonable expectations. At this point, we need to accept that this will be a very slow rebuilding process, if by some miracle it ever happens. Our braintrust has outdone themselves by Chris Mullin their head coach. Massiello, Cluess, Pikiell, Hurley etc all had their good points and bad ones, but none were vane enough to belief that experience wasn't necessary to do this job.
I'm not laughing at Mullin, and I'm certainly not ready to fire him, but I see no reason to believe that he has any idea how to coach.
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All those years in playing in the NBA - don't you think he could have pick up a few pointers through the years
The announcer who also played in the NBA said he wanted and coach like Don Nelson
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All those years in playing in the NBA - don't you think he could have pick up a few pointers through the years
The announcer who also played in the NBA said he wanted and coach like Don Nelson
I think you are confusing understanding the game at a high level with being able to teach the game at a high level. Mullin probably did that as well. He probably figured that players would learn a lot faster than they are.
The key now is whether or not Mullin realizes that the way in which he and his staff have coached the team is the problem, or if he believes that this is just a young team and that's the only reason for how we've played. If it's the latter, I hope he resigns in March.
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All those years in playing in the NBA - don't you think he could have pick up a few pointers through the years
The announcer who also played in the NBA said he wanted and coach like Don Nelson
I think you are confusing understanding the game at a high level with being able to teach the game at a high level. Mullin probably did that as well. He probably figured that players would learn a lot faster than they are.
The key now is whether or not Mullin realizes that the way in which he and his staff have coached the team is the problem, or if he believes that this is just a young team and that's the only reason for how we've played. If it's the latter, I hope he resigns in March.
Let's revisit this one. Perhaps another look at the ever popular "Mitch Richmond needs to go" thread is also in order.
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All those years in playing in the NBA - don't you think he could have pick up a few pointers through the years
The announcer who also played in the NBA said he wanted and coach like Don Nelson
I think you are confusing understanding the game at a high level with being able to teach the game at a high level. Mullin probably did that as well. He probably figured that players would learn a lot faster than they are.
The key now is whether or not Mullin realizes that the way in which he and his staff have coached the team is the problem, or if he believes that this is just a young team and that's the only reason for how we've played. If it's the latter, I hope he resigns in March.
Let's revisit this one. Perhaps another look at the ever popular "Mitch Richmond needs to go" thread is also in order.
Let's give it a little more time. The improvement is visible, but we have a long way to go. We just beat DePaul. There was no Quentin Richardson on this team. Not even a Wilson Chandler.
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Mullin et al are doing a great job of developing this team. A young, inexperienced team needs time to improve.....yes, it is a process......ball is moving well, assists are up, 3 wins in a row.....there will be a few more inexplicable bad games due to their youth but there will be upsets as well.....they are a young group and moving in the right direction. Stop complaining and being pessimistic, guard play is great and everyone but Freud and Yakwe are going in the right direction. I would not want to play us with those 2 quick little guys ready to pick your pocket and control the game.
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Let's give it a little more time.
Exactly!
Because evaluating a coach mid-season, and by "mid-season" I actually mean early
pre-conference game season with the best player out or recovering from an ankle injury, is stupid!
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2 staff openings?
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Who do you think?
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Any updates here?
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Any updates here?
No, but it's nice to see that my posts hold up over time.
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Any updates here?
No, but it's nice to see that my posts hold up over time.
Paultzman's avatar might disagree that there are no updates
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The avatar looks like a young Mike Rice ;)
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The avatar looks like a young Mike Rice ;)
Indeed it is... I still think he'd be a great hire. Exactly what we need. Tireless basketball guy. Can do a bjtnof everything. Drills, scouting talent, recruiting. He deserves another shot and I think would be a big asset. I also don't think he'd be an issue with Matt and leave the "lead recruiter" role to Matt. Make Rice in charge of our defense. I guarantee we improve a bunch.
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The avatar looks like a young Mike Rice ;)
Indeed it is... I still think he'd be a great hire. Exactly what we need. Tireless basketball guy. Can do a bjtnof everything. Drills, scouting talent, recruiting. He deserves another shot and I think would be a big asset. I also don't think he'd be an issue with Matt and leave the "lead recruiter" role to Matt. Make Rice in charge of our defense. I guarantee we improve a bunch.
Yes this would be a good hire for us but I haven't heard of anyone leaving so this has been a moot point.