6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: QuanMan on April 12, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
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See link above. 3 ships left to help us get into the upper third of the BE, can be for 4 ships if you send Amar packing, which should happen-
-Revoke Amar's ship. Get a immediate 17' scorer to backup Bash.
-Close the deal on IK and Yetna. Hope to lock up Nikola Sckecic.
-Leaves 4 open ships for 18'-19' (Reid/Muhammad/Williams/_____)
-Other options can be grabbing other elite sit out transfers.
Thoughts?
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9KsutnWAAY0Vog.jpg:large
See link above. 3 ships left to help us get into the upper third of the BE, can be for 4 ships if you send Amar packing, which should happen-
-Revoke Amar's ship. Get a immediate 17' scorer to backup Bash.
-Close the deal on IK and Yetna. Hope to lock up Nikola Sckecic.
-Leaves 4 open ships for 18'-19' (Reid/Muhammad/Williams/_____)
-Other options can be grabbing other elite sit out transfers.
Thoughts?
How do we still have 4 left over for the year after?
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9KsutnWAAY0Vog.jpg:large
See link above. 3 ships left to help us get into the upper third of the BE, can be for 4 ships if you send Amar packing, which should happen-
-Revoke Amar's ship. Get a immediate 17' scorer to backup Bash.
-Close the deal on IK and Yetna. Hope to lock up Nikola Sckecic.
-Leaves 4 open ships for 18'-19' (Reid/Muhammad/Williams/_____)
-Other options can be grabbing other elite sit out transfers.
Thoughts?
Let Scecik go to USF.
We don't need both Yetna and Kante. You can't depend on 3* bigs for anything as freshmen and we are too close to the dance to go into the season with just Owens, Clark, Yakwe and two freshmen.
I think we'll land Kante, a sign and sit transfer g/f, and a grad transfer big man.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9KsutnWAAY0Vog.jpg:large
See link above. 3 ships left to help us get into the upper third of the BE, can be for 4 ships if you send Amar packing, which should happen-
-Revoke Amar's ship. Get a immediate 17' scorer to backup Bash.
-Close the deal on IK and Yetna. Hope to lock up Nikola Sckecic.
-Leaves 4 open ships for 18'-19' (Reid/Muhammad/Williams/_____)
-Other options can be grabbing other elite sit out transfers.
Thoughts?
Get a quality grad transfer Big. Do not take Yetna, if we are getting Kante. Look for someone better. Could be transfer big who has to sit out a year. Marillac, just saw your post. You read my mind.
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That quality grad transfer big doesn't appear to be likely anymore. There aren't that many out there and we haven't been linked to the few that are. The vast majority of transfers have declared they are transferring by now
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https://youtu.be/0-1J4xdkykY
Kante and Yetna can't do this. Go get this kid, Isaiah Mike, from Duquesne. He'll give you about as much as either frosh above sitting out next year, and will have three to play after his redshirt.
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Pat Lawless
'17 Kenny Wooten from Trinity International (NV), tells me he has picked up an offer from St. John's.
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Kenny Wooten is a 4-star PF when was committed to Arizona State. With offers from Kansas, Arizona and others apparently. Would be a great pickup for us at PF. Grab both he and Kante and we'd have two strong frontcourt options, and both 17' kids.
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https://twitter.com/patlawless_/status/852204883713413121
Kenny Wooten is a 4-star PF when was committed to Arizona State. With offers from Kansas, Arizona and others apparently. Would be a great pickup for us at PF. Grab both he and Kante and we'd have two strong frontcourt options, and both 17' kids.
SJU offered him today
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https://twitter.com/patlawless_/status/852204883713413121
Kenny Wooten is a 4-star PF when was committed to Arizona State. With offers from Kansas, Arizona and others apparently. Would be a great pickup for us at PF. Grab both he and Kante and we'd have two strong frontcourt options, and both 17' kids.
SJU offered him today
Any idea if we have a realistic shot here?
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Wooten is from Stockton CA, and he played AAU ball with (if I recall correctly)...Lovett.
Didn't play anywhere last season. Was a class of 2016 kid who decommited from Nevada then went to a prep school that classifies as a high school, and therefore he couldn't play for them.
Edit - it should also be noted that he sat out the 2014-2015 season as well. So he didn't play any ball outside of AAU for 2 of the past 3 years.
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Wooten is from Stockton CA, and he played AAU ball with (if I recall correctly)...Lovett.
Didn't play anywhere last season. Was a class of 2016 kid who decommited from Nevada then went to a prep school that classifies as a high school, and therefore he couldn't play for them.
Good physical talent, but very raw.
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https://twitter.com/patlawless_/status/852204883713413121
Kenny Wooten is a 4-star PF when was committed to Arizona State. With offers from Kansas, Arizona and others apparently. Would be a great pickup for us at PF. Grab both he and Kante and we'd have two strong frontcourt options, and both 17' kids.
SJU offered him today
Guess who started following him...
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Wooten is from Stockton CA, and he played AAU ball with (if I recall correctly)...Lovett.
Didn't play anywhere last season. Was a class of 2016 kid who decommited from Nevada then went to a prep school that classifies as a high school, and therefore he couldn't play for them.
Good physical talent, but very raw.
Yeah, but talented athlete and capable rebounder. Raw is fine. If we can get a talented kid in like that right now, we'd be very lucky.
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Wooten is from Stockton CA, and he played AAU ball with (if I recall correctly)...Lovett.
Didn't play anywhere last season. Was a class of 2016 kid who decommited from Nevada then went to a prep school that classifies as a high school, and therefore he couldn't play for them.
Good physical talent, but very raw.
Yeah, but talented athlete and capable rebounder. Raw is fine. If we can get a talented kid in like that right now, we'd be very lucky.
Agree in principle, but who is going to coach these raw big men once they get here? Current situation has not exactly worked out with Yakwe or Sima.
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How big is he?
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How big is he?
6'8', 205. Decommitted from ASU yesterday
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How big is he?
6'8', 205. Decommitted from ASU yesterday
You said 235 right ?
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How big is he?
6'8', 205. Decommitted from ASU yesterday
You said 235 right ?
Just watched video of the kid playing 2 years ago. Seems a lot like Yakwe (although perhaps with better hands).
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Wooten is from Stockton CA, and he played AAU ball with (if I recall correctly)...Lovett.
Didn't play anywhere last season. Was a class of 2016 kid who decommited from Nevada then went to a prep school that classifies as a high school, and therefore he couldn't play for them.
Good physical talent, but very raw.
Yeah, but talented athlete and capable rebounder. Raw is fine. If we can get a talented kid in like that right now, we'd be very lucky.
I'm not against it. Let's just be reasonable and understand he likely won't contribute for two years.
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Wooten is from Stockton CA, and he played AAU ball with (if I recall correctly)...Lovett.
Didn't play anywhere last season. Was a class of 2016 kid who decommited from Nevada then went to a prep school that classifies as a high school, and therefore he couldn't play for them.
Good physical talent, but very raw.
Yeah, but talented athlete and capable rebounder. Raw is fine. If we can get a talented kid in like that right now, we'd be very lucky.
I'm not against it. Let's just be reasonable and understand he likely won't contribute for two years.
Agree with you here. Frankly, I'd rather go with Isiaha Mike, Kante, and either Wooten or Scekic (yeah, I said it, lol).
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Doubt he visits here.
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Reading the tea leaves and JJ code talk, IK is going to sign sometime soon. We're still pursuing Scekic however, which means that some big man recruitment has fallen by the wayside. I still think Amar should be sent packing and replaced with a wing scorer to backup Bash (Yetna). What would be done with the remaining (3) scholarships ideally would then be (1) spent towards a elite sitout transfer and lastly the (2) final ships spent towards additional insurance within the front court.
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https://twitter.com/patlawless_/status/852204883713413121
Kenny Wooten is a 4-star PF when was committed to Arizona State. With offers from Kansas, Arizona and others apparently. Would be a great pickup for us at PF. Grab both he and Kante and we'd have two strong frontcourt options, and both 17' kids.
SJU offered him today
We may want to add him to the 2017 recruit list. Here is a article just written about his interest in Arkansas. It was written AFTER his de-commitment from ASU. It mentions his interest in SJU. The only reason I say that is my guess is Wooten specifically mentioned SJU to the blogger or else why would a Arkansas blogger mention St. John's in the article:
http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/apr/12/arkansas-back-involved-las-vegas-wooten/
Arkansas could end up hitting the jackpot in Las Vegas.
The Razorbacks are back in contact with four-star Las Vegas Trinity International Christian Prep forward Kenny Wooten (6-9, 205 pounds), who de-committed from Arizona State earlier this week.
Wooten, a California native who was a Nevada signee out of high school, was offered in the fall by Arkansas and is considering the Razorbacks along with Oregon, St. John’s and others.
“I’ve always been really interested in Arkansas for the simple fact of how hard the team plays,” Wooten said. “My interest in them is high.”
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
But what is the circumference of his neck? Do we know?
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Per Braziller, St. John's will host JUCO center Nikola Scekic of Hutchinson CC tonight
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Per Braziller, St. John's will host JUCO center Nikola Scekic of Hutchinson CC tonight
Nab 3/5 of Yetna, IK, Wroten, Scekic and Mike, sign another elite sit out transfer, and release Amar and I am a happy man.
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Per Braziller, St. John's will host JUCO center Nikola Scekic of Hutchinson CC tonight
Nab 3/5 of Yetna, IK, Wroten, Scekic and Mike, sign another elite sit out transfer, and release Amar and I am a happy man.
Damn, did Amar run over your dog or something?
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Per Braziller, St. John's will host JUCO center Nikola Scekic of Hutchinson CC tonight
Nab 3/5 of Yetna, IK, Wroten, Scekic and Mike, sign another elite sit out transfer, and release Amar and I am a happy man.
Damn, did Amar run over your dog or something?
Its Year 3, inferior talent isn't permitted. The patience by the public won't be there this year.
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Per Braziller, St. John's will host JUCO center Nikola Scekic of Hutchinson CC tonight
Nab 3/5 of Yetna, IK, Wroten, Scekic and Mike, sign another elite sit out transfer, and release Amar and I am a happy man.
Damn, did Amar run over your dog or something?
Its Year 3, inferior talent isn't permitted. The patience by the public won't be there this year.
Keeping a senior role player to be the 10th man on the roster would not be poorly received, even by this fan base.
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Did Heron say he's returning to Auburn? No mention of him lately
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Did Heron say he's returning to Auburn? No mention of him lately
A lot of the Auburn people on Twitter shot down the report that he was considering transferring, but I don't know what was true and what wasn't. Considering the fishy circumstances surrounding his commitment to Auburn and the fact that it's Bruce Pearl I'd guess any leak was just a bargaining ploy by Heron's father for whatever Pearl is giving them down there. Kind of like what Matt did
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Per Braziller, St. John's will host JUCO center Nikola Scekic of Hutchinson CC tonight
Nab 3/5 of Yetna, IK, Wroten, Scekic and Mike, sign another elite sit out transfer, and release Amar and I am a happy man.
My thought is Kante, Mike, and Scekic. From what I've seen Mike can back up Ahmed and from Owens, KY, and Scekic to fill the center minutes.
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IMO. Scekic is not worth pursuing. Bench warmer at JC level despite his size, unless all our other pieces fall into place . He would be ok as a 10th man.
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IMO. Scekic is not worth pursuing. Bench warmer at JC level despite his size, unless all our other pieces fall into place . He would be ok as a 10th man.
We still have 3 open spots plus the possibility of Amar leaving. I would take a flyer on this kid especially if Amar leaves, if he isn't any good then hes the last the guy on the bench,
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Per Braziller, St. John's will host JUCO center Nikola Scekic of Hutchinson CC tonight
Nab 3/5 of Yetna, IK, Wroten, Scekic and Mike, sign another elite sit out transfer, and release Amar and I am a happy man.
Damn, did Amar run over your dog or something?
Its Year 3, inferior talent isn't permitted. The patience by the public won't be there this year.
Can you name the inferior talent that rode the bench at Kentucky, Kansas, etc.? It's not Amar's fault the coaching staff hasn't been able to find a few bigs to keep Amar cheering from the bench. Most teams don't roll 10 deep let alone 13.
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IMO. Scekic is not worth pursuing. Bench warmer at JC level despite his size, unless all our other pieces fall into place . He would be ok as a 10th man.
We still have 3 open spots plus the possibility of Amar leaving. I would take a flyer on this kid especially if Amar leaves, if he isn't any good then hes the last the guy on the bench,
Amars shown a lot of loyalty. But obviously repacing Amar w Scekic isn't going to harm us, except it ties up another scholi for 18.. But, I would like to see us w some impact players. Really want that grad transfer big.,
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zach smart @zsmart3 25m25 minutes ago
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Ohio no longer in the mix for Nikola Scekic. 7-2 C out of Hutchinson CC down to South Florida and St. John's. Heads to NYC tonight 4 visit
zach smart @zsmart3 3h3 hours ago
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Scekic said it is his first time in NYC. Has already read up on QU transfer Mikey Dixon.
"Me and him would be good in the pick and pop"
He's 7'2 fellas. Even Curtis Johnson provided some value. Can't teach height. Tariq will need rest and will be in foul trouble it's inevitable. Best available true center don't hesitate.
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zach smart @zsmart3 25m25 minutes ago
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Ohio no longer in the mix for Nikola Scekic. 7-2 C out of Hutchinson CC down to South Florida and St. John's. Heads to NYC tonight 4 visit
zach smart @zsmart3 3h3 hours ago
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Scekic said it is his first time in NYC. Has already read up on QU transfer Mikey Dixon.
"Me and him would be good in the pick and pop"
He's 7'2 fellas. Even Curtis Johnson provided some value. Can't teach height. Tariq will need rest and will be in foul trouble it's inevitable. Best available true center don't hesitate.
Agreed. And if with all the positives he mentioned, we can't beat out S. Florida with all the negatives associated with that program, then I give up.
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Need. Better. Players.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
Who else is recruiting this guy?
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
A couple of days ago, I saw several game clips (one of our fans attached some of the clips to their Twitter account) on Scekic and, although it was an extremely small sample, you could see a bit of potential. I'll see if I can locate it.
EDIT: I went to Zach Smart's Twitter page (he seems to be a fan of the kid) and found a link to Scekic's page, which had an Instagram link. Breaking down 60 seconds clips should be in Marillac's wheelhouse. :)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSoQRuKjTrI/?taken-by=n_scekic
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSoPet-jWDK/?taken-by=n_scekic
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
A couple of days ago, I saw several game clips (one of our fans attached some of the clips to their Twitter account) on Scekic and, although it was an extremely small sample, you could see a bit of potential. I'll see if I can locate it.
He averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in Community College.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
A couple of days ago, I saw several game clips (one of our fans attached some of the clips to their Twitter account) on Scekic and, although it was an extremely small sample, you could see a bit of potential. I'll see if I can locate it.
He averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in Community College.
I never said the kid would be a stud. Players also get better. Although, it was major college, but Owens averaged about a point a game at Tennessee.
If he can be useful and give a steady 5-10 minutes a game his first year or two, then he's served his purpose.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
A couple of days ago, I saw several game clips (one of our fans attached some of the clips to their Twitter account) on Scekic and, although it was an extremely small sample, you could see a bit of potential. I'll see if I can locate it.
He averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in Community College.
I never said the kid would be a stud. Players also get better. Although, it was major college, but Owens averaged about a point a game at Tennessee.
If he can be useful and give a steady 5-10 minutes a game his first year or two, then he's served his purpose.
Wasn't directed at you, was speaking in general. IMO, this scholarship should be saved.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
A couple of days ago, I saw several game clips (one of our fans attached some of the clips to their Twitter account) on Scekic and, although it was an extremely small sample, you could see a bit of potential. I'll see if I can locate it.
He averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in Community College.
I never said the kid would be a stud. Players also get better. Although, it was major college, but Owens averaged about a point a game at Tennessee.
If he can be useful and give a steady 5-10 minutes a game his first year or two, then he's served his purpose.
IMO, this scholarship should be saved.
I wouldn't have a problem with that scenario, either, as long as we have a better and realistic alternative to bring in a big.
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Scekic would relieve Tariq for 5-15 minutes a game depending on attrition, foul trouble. I think he's worth pursuing.
If that stiff is playing 15 minutes, we should just forfeit.
Come on man, you made Jory de larosa seem like Lou Alcindor compared to this guy.
I'd do the same if we got this Frankenstein as walkon too.
Ok but you realize that makes no sense. Del a Rosa had next to zero basketball skills and he is smaller than this guy. You talked up the fact that with him we had a big body who could foul, set picks, and lean on bigs for 5 minutes a half. Now this guy is the equivalent of waving the white towel?
A couple of days ago, I saw several game clips (one of our fans attached some of the clips to their Twitter account) on Scekic and, although it was an extremely small sample, you could see a bit of potential. I'll see if I can locate it.
He averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in Community College.
I never said the kid would be a stud. Players also get better. Although, it was major college, but Owens averaged about a point a game at Tennessee.
If he can be useful and give a steady 5-10 minutes a game his first year or two, then he's served his purpose.
IMO, this scholarship should be saved.
I wouldn't have a problem with that scenario, either, as long as we have a better and realistic alternative to bring in a big.
There's a reason why he's still available
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He averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in Community College.
Post of the year
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Baldi!!! :up:
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Scekic won't be offered IMO, although I doubted he would even visit.
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He averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in Community College.
Post of the year
Guys - c'mon. He had 10 blocks in 37 games. And he's 7'2''. That's gold.
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If he's happy being our last big man off the bench, offers five fouls, and plays five minutes -- at most -- per game, then I'd be happy with it. We can't expect everyone we get to be in the rotation and play big minutes/big impact guys.
One of the issues Mullin had last year was having too big of a playing rotation. Lovett/Ponds/Simon/Mussini, Ahmed/Clarke/Owens/Yawke is already ok. Get us one more front court guy, and we're a solid NCAA bubble team.
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If he's happy being our last big man off the bench, offers five fouls, and plays five minutes -- at most -- per game, then I'd be happy with it. We can't expect everyone we get to be in the rotation and play big minutes/big impact guys.
One of the issues Mullin had last year was having too big of a playing rotation. Lovett/Ponds/Simon/Mussini, Ahmed/Clarke/Owens/Yawke is already ok. Get us one more front court guy, and we're a solid NCAA bubble team.
Sounds like Amar, who gets bashed here for being 12th man. Let the kid Graduate and another scholarship opens up.
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If he's happy being our last big man off the bench, offers five fouls, and plays five minutes -- at most -- per game, then I'd be happy with it. We can't expect everyone we get to be in the rotation and play big minutes/big impact guys.
One of the issues Mullin had last year was having too big of a playing rotation. Lovett/Ponds/Simon/Mussini, Ahmed/Clarke/Owens/Yawke is already ok. Get us one more front court guy, and we're a solid NCAA bubble team.
Sounds like Amar, who gets bashed here for being 12th man. Let the kid Graduate and another scholarship opens up.
Baldi spitting truth.
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If he's happy being our last big man off the bench, offers five fouls, and plays five minutes -- at most -- per game, then I'd be happy with it. We can't expect everyone we get to be in the rotation and play big minutes/big impact guys.
One of the issues Mullin had last year was having too big of a playing rotation. Lovett/Ponds/Simon/Mussini, Ahmed/Clarke/Owens/Yawke is already ok. Get us one more front court guy, and we're a solid NCAA bubble team.
Sounds like Amar, who gets bashed here for being 12th man. Let the kid Graduate and another scholarship opens up.
Baldi spitting truth.
Yeah because you love those big guys who stand outside the three point line waiting to catch and shoot. Or in AA's case, catch and miss.
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If he's happy being our last big man off the bench, offers five fouls, and plays five minutes -- at most -- per game, then I'd be happy with it. We can't expect everyone we get to be in the rotation and play big minutes/big impact guys.
One of the issues Mullin had last year was having too big of a playing rotation. Lovett/Ponds/Simon/Mussini, Ahmed/Clarke/Owens/Yawke is already ok. Get us one more front court guy, and we're a solid NCAA bubble team.
Sounds like Amar, who gets bashed here for being 12th man. Let the kid Graduate and another scholarship opens up.
Baldi spitting truth.
Yeah because you love those big guys who stand outside the three point line waiting to catch and shoot. Or in AA's case, catch and miss.
I'll take a lesser physical talent at PF if he knows his role and doesn't want to ne a SF. However, I prefer to keep my own crap over taking someone else's.
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I prefer to keep my own crap over taking someone else's.
In general I agree with you but I bet at Kentucky they don't spend three months arguing about who should be the tenth man and the tenth man at Kentucky would start at St John's. This guy's seven foot two, walks upright and can catch the ball. By that criteria he's already the best true big we've had since Lamont Hamilton. And he could well be the fourth face we need to complete our Mount Rushmore of lummoxes: Muto - Baldi - Jasilionustien - ?. We could we witnessing history.
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Curtis Johnson is worthy of inclusion in this fine group of gentlemen.
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Curtis Johnson is worthy of inclusion in this fine group of gentlemen.
Probably not the right complexion for Foad's definition of a lummoxe.
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Judging solely from his highlight mixtape, but Isiaha Mike clearly looks like the top talent that we're after this offseason with all due respect to Mikey Dixon. His versatility, strength, and multi-faceted skill set really has me hoping that we get him in for a visit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1J4xdkykY
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Judging solely from his highlight mixtape, but Isiaha Mike clearly looks like the top talent that we're after this offseason with all due respect to Mikey Dixon. His versatility, strength, and multi-faceted skill set really has me hoping that we get him in for a visit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1J4xdkykY
Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein 10m10 minutes ago
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Duquesne transfer Isiaha Mike tells me he will visit SMU this weekend and also plans to visit Oregon.
Hope that we eventually land a visit.
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Mike is off the radar apparently.
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Mike is off the radar apparently.
The matt unfollow....the kiss of death.
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Mike is off the radar apparently.
The matt unfollow....the kiss of death.
Too bad. Seemed to be one of the better front court prospects. If we can't get the top HSers was hoping we could get the some of the top transfers but seems like every school now plays the transfer game.
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Matt AbdelmassihVerified account @mabde33 6m6 minutes ago
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adding 1 more piece (a big) is the only focus. We feel like we have a very talented group next season.
So the current roster with the addition of IK is it? I think that we're all in agreement that we could use at least two 17'-18' bigs. This also is somewhat stating that Amar is staying, which means that losing Darien was indeed a loss.
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Staff wants to sign only one player to this Spring's class. So 10 scholarship players, Mikey Dixon and the assumed two additional transfer signings puts our roster at 13 total scholarships.
Thoughts on sitting 3, keeping Amar instead of Darien, and what looks like IK being our only Spring 17' signing?
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Staff wants to sign only one player to this Spring's class. So 10 scholarship players, Mikey Dixon and the assumed two additional transfer signings puts our roster at 13 total scholarships.
Thoughts on sitting 3, keeping Amar instead of Darien, and what looks like IK being our only Spring 17' signing?
Is it possible Williams left because Williams wanted to leave?
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Staff wants to sign only one player to this Spring's class. So 10 scholarship players, Mikey Dixon and the assumed two additional transfer signings puts our roster at 13 total scholarships.
Thoughts on sitting 3, keeping Amar instead of Darien, and what looks like IK being our only Spring 17' signing?
I'm fine as long as we land a guy like Kante and Amar is staying. Darien, despite what many here think, didn't help us tremendously. I think a guy like Kante will be able to do as much, even as a freshman. Don't forget as well that we have Owens back, plus are adding two potential starting caliber players in Simon and Clark. We might play smaller than some teams, but we won't be tiny overall. Agree I'd like an impact big man or two, but it doesn't seem that this transfer season will provide us with one.
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Staff wants to sign only one player to this Spring's class. So 10 scholarship players, Mikey Dixon and the assumed two additional transfer signings puts our roster at 13 total scholarships.
Thoughts on sitting 3, keeping Amar instead of Darien, and what looks like IK being our only Spring 17' signing?
I'm fine as long as we land a guy like Kante and Amar is staying. Darien, despite what many here think, didn't help us tremendously. I think a guy like Kante will be able to do as much, even as a freshman. Don't forget as well that we have Owens back, plus are adding two potential starting caliber players in Simon and Clark. We might play smaller than some teams, but we won't be tiny overall. Agree I'd like an impact big man or two, but it doesn't seem that this transfer season will provide us with one.
Yes, we'll be bigger and more talented then last year but will that be enough ?
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Staff wants to sign only one player to this Spring's class. So 10 scholarship players, Mikey Dixon and the assumed two additional transfer signings puts our roster at 13 total scholarships.
Thoughts on sitting 3, keeping Amar instead of Darien, and what looks like IK being our only Spring 17' signing?
Is it possible Williams left because Williams wanted to leave?
Darien left bc of a minutes restriction, some of which are occupied by Amar. Darien > Amar no contest. I'd rather have 11 active players and add a additional big or swingman in addition to IK. We'll see how the rest of the signing period materializes however, end date is May 17th.
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Staff wants to sign only one player to this Spring's class. So 10 scholarship players, Mikey Dixon and the assumed two additional transfer signings puts our roster at 13 total scholarships.
Thoughts on sitting 3, keeping Amar instead of Darien, and what looks like IK being our only Spring 17' signing?
Completely unacceptable. Our front court is a disgrace and there are
impact grad transfers everywhere you look. IK won't offer anything as a freshman.
X had O'mara, Tyrique Jones, and Kaiser Gates coming back and still landed Kanter as a grad transfer and a stud recruiting class. We have a Sweet 16 backcourt and Northeast Conference front court.
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Realize we expected more growth last year from Yawke. But I think it is a safe bet that both Owens and Yawke will improve to some degree. If they take an even marginal leap, plus the addition of Marvin Clark, I think our front court will be improved. Not on the level as the back court/wings, but improved.
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Realize we expected more growth last year from Yawke. But I think it is a safe bet that both Owens and Yawke will improve to some degree. If they take an even marginal leap, plus the addition of Marvin Clark, I think our front court will be improved. Not on the level as the back court/wings, but improved.
It's never safe to bet anyone from St. John's will improve. We have an absolute joke of a conditioning program. Justin Patton arrived at Creighton under 200 and so weak they had to redshirt him. They got him up to 230 in one redshirt year. We couldn't get Owens over 200 lbs in his redshirt year?
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Realize we expected more growth last year from Yawke. But I think it is a safe bet that both Owens and Yawke will improve to some degree. If they take an even marginal leap, plus the addition of Marvin Clark, I think our front court will be improved. Not on the level as the back court/wings, but improved.
Safe bet? What makes you think so?
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History. Kids with ability get better as they get older and stronger. Maybe not as much as some would like, or as quick as some would like, but talent usually improves. We saw Dom go from a kid almost everyone on this board wanted out to one of the premier players in the league. And we've seen it with plenty of others, whether on SJU or elsewhere.
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History. Kids with ability get better as they get older and stronger. Maybe not as much as some would like, or as quick as some would like, but talent usually improves. We saw Dom go from a kid almost everyone on this board wanted out to one of the premier players in the league. And we've seen it with plenty of others, whether on SJU or elsewhere.
Dom was awesome as a freshman and horribly misused as a junior. I was his most vocal critic and it wa never about his ability....it was about his role.
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Realize we expected more growth last year from Yawke. But I think it is a safe bet that both Owens and Yawke will improve to some degree.
no such thing as a safe bet at st johns. we are .........
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Realize we expected more growth last year from Yawke. But I think it is a safe bet that both Owens and Yawke will improve to some degree.
no such thing as a safe bet at st johns. we are .........
My same thoughts regarding IK "leaning" towards us but still taking 2 more trips.
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Realize we expected more growth last year from Yawke. But I think it is a safe bet that both Owens and Yawke will improve to some degree.
no such thing as a safe bet at st johns. we are .........
My same thoughts regarding IK "leaning" towards us but still taking 2 more trips.
And now his last trip is us again
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History. Kids with ability get better as they get older and stronger. Maybe not as much as some would like, or as quick as some would like, but talent usually improves. We saw Dom go from a kid almost everyone on this board wanted out to one of the premier players in the league. And we've seen it with plenty of others, whether on SJU or elsewhere.
Dom was awesome as a freshman and horribly misused as a junior. I was his most vocal critic and it wa never about his ability....it was about his role.
This. Plus about 1000000
Dom was used as a point guard his Junior year. That was about the time I became convinced Lavin had nothing between his ears.
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Are we waiting on Kante and Scenic to save the day?
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Are we waiting on Kante and Scenic to save the day?
I know you're clowning around again, but.... Supposedly, we never offered Scekic, so it looks like Kante or bust. I'm not aware of any other immediate eligible player or big on the radar.
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Are we waiting on Kante and Scenic to save the day?
I know you're clowning around again, but.... Supposedly, we never offered Scekic, so it looks like Kante or bust. I'm not aware of any other immediate eligible player or big on the radar.
Unfortunately I was seeious. Doesn't look like we are getting anyone who can help
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Are we waiting on Kante and Scenic to save the day?
I know you're clowning around again, but.... Supposedly, we never offered Scekic, so it looks like Kante or bust. I'm not aware of any other immediate eligible player or big on the radar.
Unfortunately I was seeious. Doesn't look like we aren't anyone who can help
If we land Kante and Rice join the staff, then that'll probably work for me. But, I would like to grab an additional big. Grabbing Rice could actually be the best recruit of the lot, if it comes to fruition.
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Are we waiting on Kante and Scenic to save the day?
I know you're clowning around again, but.... Supposedly, we never offered Scekic, so it looks like Kante or bust. I'm not aware of any other immediate eligible player or big on the radar.
Unfortunately I was seeious. Doesn't look like we are getting anyone who can help
You should start a bring back Norm thread, something needs to cheer you up.
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Are we waiting on Kante and Scenic to save the day?
I know you're clowning around again, but.... Supposedly, we never offered Scekic, so it looks like Kante or bust. I'm not aware of any other immediate eligible player or big on the radar.
Unfortunately I was seeious. Doesn't look like we are getting anyone who can help
You should start a bring back Norm thread, something needs to cheer you up.
Bring back Jessica
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Are we waiting on Kante and Scenic to save the day?
I know you're clowning around again, but.... Supposedly, we never offered Scekic, so it looks like Kante or bust. I'm not aware of any other immediate eligible player or big on the radar.
Unfortunately I was seeious. Doesn't look like we are getting anyone who can help
Don't get too seeious on us, Baldi! ;)
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How we have not added to next year's core is baffling. We have to make a major step in the eyes of public opinion in Year3 or else we're going to be written off. I like our roster 1-8, we literally have nothing after it on 5/2.
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It could change very quickly though. Add a big grad like Rooks and maybe a guy like Nahziah Carter for 17' and we'd look solid, with at least one big man and one young wing entering next season. I'm disappointed with how it's gone thus far, but we don't need a ton to get us to where we want. Let's see what happens. The sun even shines on a dogs ass some days...
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It could change very quickly though. Add a big grad like Rooks and maybe a guy like Nahziah Carter for 17' and we'd look solid, with at least one big man and one young wing entering next season. I'm disappointed with how it's gone thus far, but we don't need a ton to get us to where we want. Let's see what happens. The sun even shines on a dogs ass some days...
Not counting on Rooks
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It could change very quickly though. Add a big grad like Rooks and maybe a guy like Nahziah Carter for 17' and we'd look solid, with at least one big man and one young wing entering next season. I'm disappointed with how it's gone thus far, but we don't need a ton to get us to where we want. Let's see what happens. The sun even shines on a dogs ass some days...
Not counting on Rooks
Maybe another big body at least. That's what I'd hope for. Beverley sounds great but the "near lock" to Iowa state concerns me, obviously.
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Matt has been tremendous doing what he does best in the transfer market in landing Marv/JSimon/Tariq/Mikey Dixon.
However, 4/9 of the kids that signed out of HS in the 15' and 16' classes have now transferred, and he is flatly striking out with the 2017 HS seniors.
I will continue to remind everyone of how ridiculously gambling on a transvestite criminal led to this current situation bc it's relevant at this very moment.
If it's our depth that ultimately hurts us at the end of games I'm going to consistently think of this empty recruiting class.
We need a break in the worst way, I'm praying that someone, somewhere is left unspoken for bc the answer doesn't appear to be Rooks or Carter as of tonight. Two weeks left to make something happen.
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Matt has been tremendous doing what he does best in the transfer market in landing Marv/JSimon/Tariq/Mikey Dixon.
However, 4/9 of the kids that signed out of HS in the 15' and 16' classes have now transferred, and he is flatly striking out with the 2017 HS seniors.
I will continue to remind everyone of how ridiculously gambling on a transvestite criminal led to this current situation bc it's relevant at this very moment.
If it's our depth that ultimately hurts us at the end of games I'm going to consistently think of this empty recruiting class.
We need a break in the worst way, I'm praying that someone, somewhere is left unspoken for bc the answer doesn't appear to be Rooks or Carter as of tonight. Two weeks left to make something happen.
I disagree. Rooks is just what we are looking for. The only problem is I don't think we are going to land him. I agree w you re: Carter.
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Matt has been tremendous doing what he does best in the transfer market in landing Marv/JSimon/Tariq/Mikey Dixon.
However, 4/9 of the kids that signed out of HS in the 15' and 16' classes have now transferred, and he is flatly striking out with the 2017 HS seniors.
I will continue to remind everyone of how ridiculously gambling on a transvestite criminal led to this current situation bc it's relevant at this very moment.
If it's our depth that ultimately hurts us at the end of games I'm going to consistently think of this empty recruiting class.
We need a break in the worst way, I'm praying that someone, somewhere is left unspoken for bc the answer doesn't appear to be Rooks or Carter as of tonight. Two weeks left to make something happen.
I don't disagree with a lot of what you said but who did Zach Brown prevent St. John's from acquiring?
RF and Ellison were surprises in my opinion. Those sting.
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Matt has been tremendous doing what he does best in the transfer market in landing Marv/JSimon/Tariq/Mikey Dixon.
However, 4/9 of the kids that signed out of HS in the 15' and 16' classes have now transferred, and he is flatly striking out with the 2017 HS seniors.
I will continue to remind everyone of how ridiculously gambling on a transvestite criminal led to this current situation bc it's relevant at this very moment.
If it's our depth that ultimately hurts us at the end of games I'm going to consistently think of this empty recruiting class.
We need a break in the worst way, I'm praying that someone, somewhere is left unspoken for bc the answer doesn't appear to be Rooks or Carter as of tonight. Two weeks left to make something happen.
I don't disagree with a lot of what you said but who did Zach Brown prevent St. John's from acquiring?
RF and Ellison were surprises in my opinion. Those sting.
Most notably French, but it also took away from any other potential local pursuit like Isaiah Washington or Brandon Randolph while he was committed from November 9th-January 18th. Instead we wasted time and energy babysitting a imbalanced, troublesome malcontent in Florida the entire holiday season. During that time Sima also instantly decommited, leave that up to debate.
Staying in the present, we had between January to current Mid-May to atleast come up with some time of insurance additions to next year's team. Instead it seems as if we're idling, prodding for 2018 with a wonderful, opportune season right in front of our faces.
I don't mind Malik and Darien leaving, I get it for all of the mentioned reasons. However I have a huge problem with a Abs quote saying that they're confident in what they have. Amar is not a BE player. That leaves 8 capable bodies. That is not enough. As talented as we are we need additional help in various areas (Backup C, SF) before time runs out.
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I don't mind Malik and Darien leaving,
I keep reading how we're desperate for bigs. So why did Darien go?
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I don't mind Malik and Darien leaving,
I keep reading how we're desperate for bigs. So why did Darien go?
Thats the million dollar question. Also, why did we let Zanna go to Houston? Not having either 240 lb frame will cost us more than one win if the current roster isn't upgraded in some form. Kameron Rooks obviously silences all doubts on that subject, but that doesn't look too promising.
Williams was a flawed player, but he was the only guy we had that could body players like Wideman. Wideman absolutely ate up Yakwe and Owens. Let's not even mention guys like O'Mara and Delgado.
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Last year Amar came back on May 10th.
While unlikely for Williams to come back, seems our odds are perhaps as good or better than getting Rooks or Beverly.
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I don't mind Malik and Darien leaving, I get it for all of the mentioned reasons. However I have a huge problem with a Abs quote saying that they're confident in what they have. Amar is not a BE player. That leaves 8 capable bodies. That is not enough. As talented as we are we need additional help in various areas (Backup C, SF) before time runs out.
I also would like to add an additional player but the facts are only one team in the Big East played more than 8 players 15+ mpg last year (Marquette). Most only played 7. But one injury to a core player and we would be in trouble.
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Regardless, if we know a weakness we should address it... thus far we haven't. We lost front court players and replaced nobody that could potentially play basketball on the interior. I love Owens, but he fouls quick and is skinny. The kid can play and has an amazing motor though. He just needs help and doesn't have it.
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Regardless, if we know a weakness we should address it... thus far we haven't. We lost front court players and replaced nobody that could potentially play basketball on the interior. I love Owens, but he fouls quick and is skinny. The kid can play and has an amazing motor though. He just needs help and doesn't have it.
Agree but there weren't a lot of kids out there that could play 20-25 mins in the post for us. In reality we are looking for someone that can play around 10 mpg. I'm hoping Owens can play 5 more mpg compared to last year. He play around 19 mpg last year so I don't think its unreasonable for him to get up to 25 mpg.
The guards need to play defense next year and not let their man free access into the lane, which causes our bigs to help and get out of rebounding position. If that doesn't happen we could have signed 3 All-American post players and we would still get killed on the boards.
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Carter cancelled his visit to SJU