It's alive! It's alive! Referring to this site of course. I thought it was dead! Funny but I agree with your game and season predictions.
I wish this forum was busy again. I used to be checking out this place all the time for updates on recruiting and game day thoughts. Sad to see it like this.Agree. Don’t know why site hasn’t just closed down.
Agree. Don’t know why site hasn’t just closed down.
Is there another SJU message board that's active? I'm mostly on reddit these days. There are def some johnny fans that post on the game day threads there.
redmen.com is always pretty active. But I agree will be nice to post on here too.
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Problem is nobody does.
redmen.com is always pretty active. But I agree will be nice to post on here too.
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Problem is nobody does.
Hasn't been the same since FOAD sold his St. John's gear and moved to that ashram upstate.
Hasn't been the same since FOAD sold his St. John's gear and moved to that ashram upstate.
I don't even watch the games anymore. Never been happier, albeit that's not saying much.
Of course you do, your just saying that now because we are getting back to our usual freefall mode that we have been accustomed to each season.
Yeah, I'm lying to impress you and Realfan.
I have not watched a single complete SJ game this year. Sometimes I check in to the extent that I know their schedule - like last night I watched the first 15 minutes - but not watching SJ makes for me college basketball much more enjoyable. For ex, have you seen AJ Storrs this year? He's maybe a pro. He doesn't have the character to play for a guy who bangs his subordinates wives in public obviously but other than that he's pretty good. And Dylan A-W, nearly a triple double last night, a shame about his character. And don't get me started on Posh.
I suspect that Pitino's COVID is as was Coach K's back that year his team sucked and Lavin's prostrate. Although if Pitino can get through nine eleven he can get through anything (unless it's another plane obviously) so maybe he'll muddle through.
I check in here periodically to see if and how my boon companion Poison is faring in Scahsdale. That's the limit of my engagement.
Fair point well at least you missed the 28 pt run by SHU.
You shamed me into watching the game today, although it didn't hurt that AQU cancelled. I gave Jenkins the evil eye causing him to miss his FT and was thrilled when SJU clanked one at the buzzer. Looking forward to the next loss. F SJU.
Fair point well at least you missed the 28 pt run by SHU. Felt like a scene from a horror movie. I will give you that I have said that since day 1 of this season- Storr not here hurts and would come back to haunt us but I know Rick tried to keep him. Too bad.Redmen seems to be more active? Posts on there must outnumber posts on here 5,000 to one so I agree it seems to be more active.
Rick clearly made a mistake by doing that those years ago with the sex scandal. Hopefully he has grown from it. But with Wasu if you read Redmen.com they broke the story that he was forced out of here for shoving a manager in the locker room last year. We don't need that fat ass back here. He had a lucky revenge game last night during our clunker. They will shut him down next time.
Rick not coaching hurt us hope he recovers from COVID and yes it does make a difference. Lavin not coaching the prostate year was also unfortunate.
Always good to have more engagement on the board. Redmen seems more active but this board was pretty active in recent years.
You shamed me into watching the game today, although it didn't hurt that AQU cancelled. I gave Jenkins the evil eye causing him to miss his FT and was thrilled when SJU clanked one at the buzzer. Looking forward to the next loss. F SJU.
Redmen seems to be more active? Posts on there must outnumber posts on here 5,000 to one so I agree it seems to be more active.
I hope you watched the game last night.
Hope is for suckers.
Eight thirty EST is six hours past happy hour here but I managed to stay awake long enough to watch Villanova somewhere in the first half be incapable of inbounding the ball after which I retired to finish rereading True Grit (that's a book btw) knowing that Jay Wright was spinning in his grave watching his alleged predecessor destroy his legacy.
F SJU. Go Loins.
What is the root of the hate for your alma mater basketball program
(I get the school itself with its newer direction, but at least have mercy on the basketball program)? haha . Even if there were coaching stuff in the past you did not like and teams that did not play well, I would have thought you would have come back on board with Pitino.
I didn't attend SJU. My hatred for the program arises from other pathologies.
Rick Pitino is a great coach. He's also a self-serving POS who's been cheating - as a coach since he was at Hawaii - and on his wife - since probably before he got married and otherwise he's been deflecting questions about his character flaws since forever. He's an awful human being. His recent complaining about the untoward influence of money in sports is peak Pitino. On the bright side if Rick can get through nine eleven he can get thorough my opinion of him.
I'm looking forward to SJ choking its way to a loss tonight in RI. I might even watch a bit. (I'm 7-1 since you challenged me to.) And OTOH if they win it'll give suckers like you hope moving forward. Which it seems to me I can't lose.
The character thing is a fair point. I get that- the marital thing is inexcusable and perhaps an intentional blind eye to his prior program issues. But I do think this school needed some type of injection of talented coaching and he is a Hall of Famer so I think he can build it back up with some time.
I didn't attend SJU. My hatred for the program arises from other pathologies.
Pathologies? As a practicing psycho, I can only imagine that your relationship with your father, a well respected SJ professor, influenced your love of the program.
My father - and about pathologies let's just say he and I did not get along - was more than well respected: he made SJ a destination, at least for a while, until it became something less than that. In that respect he resembled Louie: apres moi le deluge.
As for my "love" for the program, I have the same love for it that I have for my myriad former girl-fiends, which is to say I wish upon them horrors beyond their comprehension. I had an ex for example who subsequent to our relationship got knocked up by some dope and lost the baby when it strangled on the umbilical chord when it dropped in the eighth month: she delivered a dead thing and thereafter succumbed to pancreatic cancer after a protracted illness. The thought of her fate still makes me smile. In the same way that will a SJ loss tonight.
I bet you had an erection
having already taken 1 from Georgetown already makes this a nice season
Surprised to mention you failed to mention our heroic sweep of DePaul.
I give you a pass because you're young anddumbidealistic, but in that regard I quote myself regarding the futility of being a SJ fan, because what follows is pretty pretty pretty good:
Speaking of bad losses, there was a fan board exchange this week wherein a poster noted that he was bringing his kid to his first Saint John’s game, to which I replied (presciently it turned out): “May I be the first to welcome your son to a lifetime of disappointment.” Which in turn set me to thinking about my own wretched youth and all the angst that Saint John’s has caused me through the years. I’ve been considering lately as I commence the slow slide into the grave how my life might have been different if e.g. I’d rooted for the Yankees and Cowboys and Celtics rather than Saint John’s and the Detroit Lions and the Republican Party. Consider the effect of these NCAA tournament results on the young psyche, and remember, these were Lou’s good teams.
March 14, 1982, at Nassau Coliseum: Alabama – who a year earlier beat SJU in the NIT atCarnesecca ArenaAlumni Hall – beat SJU 69-68 in a game in which Alabama shot 37 free throws, scoring 40 percent of their points from the line. Saint John’s starting five had 21 fouls between them and Mullin fouled out, which how is that even possible, he never covered anybody. Kevin Williams scored five points in nine minutes compared to Bobby Kelly’s two in 37 and Jeff Allen scored 10 points on 5-5 from the floor, versus zero points from Wennington in 20 minutes.
In 1983 Lou lost to Vern Fleming’s Georgia in the first round, 70-67. Kevin Williams had 12 pts in 20 minutes vs zero for Bobby Kelly.
March 15, 1984: Saint John’s lost to Temple in the first round when Terrance Stanbury buried a 40 foot jump shot after Mullin missed the front end of a one and one. Team featured twin point guards (Moses and Jackson) and towers (Allen and Wennington).
1985, loss to Georgetown, understandable, although I would have pounded the ball into Berry.
1986, loss to Auburn, Saint John’s has no answer for Chuck Pearson.
March 15, 1987: Saint John’s lost to DePaul when Dallas Comegys committed a lane violation after trying to brick a FT off the back rim at the end of regulation, except the lane violation wasn’t called and NYC native Rod Strickland hit a buzzer beater off the rebound to send the game to OT, where in a stunning turn of events Saint John’s lost.
In 1988, a first round lost to the Vern Maxwell/Dwayne Schintzius version of Florida, 62-59. Florida shot 17 free throws to SJ’s 8. Mercifully I have no independent recollection of this game.
In 1989 Lou won the NIT, woo hoo, which NIT banner proudly adorns the walls of Carnesecca Arena Alumni Hall to this day. Although the team featured freshman Malik Sealy, this era commenced what knowledgeable fans such as myself refer to as the Muto years.
March 18, 1990. Lou lost to eventual national champion Duke 76-72. The game turned late in the second half when near-cripple Billy Singleton cleanly stole the ball at half court but was called for a foul and then a double technical when he bounced the ball in frustration. SJ was up six when the foul was called and the game was even when play resumed. SJU never recovered. The repulsive Christian Laettner – other than Bill Walton the greatest white college basketball player I ever saw, better even than Mullin – was 0 for 7 from the field and had six points. In a stunning turn Duke was awarded 32 free throws, to 15 for Saint John’s.
In 1991 Lou beat #1 Ohio State but lost again to DewK in the regionals. DooK shot 28 FTs to SJ’s 6.
In 1992 Sean Muto and Malik Sealy’s senior year, SJ lost to Tulane, in the game that convinced Lou to hang up his sweater.
Now, that might not rise to the heights of despair suffered by fans of say the Buffalo Bills or Minnesota Vikings, but only because Saint John’s never reached as many championship games as those guys. Our hopes were always dashed much earlier. So to that guy, whoever he was, consider buying your kid some cute Duke rompers this Christmas, and maybe some Patriots sheets to lay his head on at night. And to the kid, good luck, you’re going to need it.
Surprised to mention you failed to mention our heroic sweep of DePaul.
I give you a pass because you're young anddumbidealistic, but in that regard I quote myself regarding the futility of being a SJ fan, because what follows is pretty pretty pretty good:
Speaking of bad losses, there was a fan board exchange this week wherein a poster noted that he was bringing his kid to his first Saint John’s game, to which I replied (presciently it turned out): “May I be the first to welcome your son to a lifetime of disappointment.” Which in turn set me to thinking about my own wretched youth and all the angst that Saint John’s has caused me through the years. I’ve been considering lately as I commence the slow slide into the grave how my life might have been different if e.g. I’d rooted for the Yankees and Cowboys and Celtics rather than Saint John’s and the Detroit Lions and the Republican Party. Consider the effect of these NCAA tournament results on the young psyche, and remember, these were Lou’s good teams.
March 14, 1982, at Nassau Coliseum: Alabama – who a year earlier beat SJU in the NIT atCarnesecca ArenaAlumni Hall – beat SJU 69-68 in a game in which Alabama shot 37 free throws, scoring 40 percent of their points from the line. Saint John’s starting five had 21 fouls between them and Mullin fouled out, which how is that even possible, he never covered anybody. Kevin Williams scored five points in nine minutes compared to Bobby Kelly’s two in 37 and Jeff Allen scored 10 points on 5-5 from the floor, versus zero points from Wennington in 20 minutes.
In 1983 Lou lost to Vern Fleming’s Georgia in the first round, 70-67. Kevin Williams had 12 pts in 20 minutes vs zero for Bobby Kelly.
March 15, 1984: Saint John’s lost to Temple in the first round when Terrance Stanbury buried a 40 foot jump shot after Mullin missed the front end of a one and one. Team featured twin point guards (Moses and Jackson) and towers (Allen and Wennington).
1985, loss to Georgetown, understandable, although I would have pounded the ball into Berry.
1986, loss to Auburn, Saint John’s has no answer for Chuck Pearson.
March 15, 1987: Saint John’s lost to DePaul when Dallas Comegys committed a lane violation after trying to brick a FT off the back rim at the end of regulation, except the lane violation wasn’t called and NYC native Rod Strickland hit a buzzer beater off the rebound to send the game to OT, where in a stunning turn of events Saint John’s lost.
In 1988, a first round lost to the Vern Maxwell/Dwayne Schintzius version of Florida, 62-59. Florida shot 17 free throws to SJ’s 8. Mercifully I have no independent recollection of this game.
In 1989 Lou won the NIT, woo hoo, which NIT banner proudly adorns the walls of Carnesecca Arena Alumni Hall to this day. Although the team featured freshman Malik Sealy, this era commenced what knowledgeable fans such as myself refer to as the Muto years.
March 18, 1990. Lou lost to eventual national champion Duke 76-72. The game turned late in the second half when near-cripple Billy Singleton cleanly stole the ball at half court but was called for a foul and then a double technical when he bounced the ball in frustration. SJ was up six when the foul was called and the game was even when play resumed. SJU never recovered. The repulsive Christian Laettner – other than Bill Walton the greatest white college basketball player I ever saw, better even than Mullin – was 0 for 7 from the field and had six points. In a stunning turn Duke was awarded 32 free throws, to 15 for Saint John’s.
In 1991 Lou beat #1 Ohio State but lost again to DewK in the regionals. DooK shot 28 FTs to SJ’s 6.
In 1992 Sean Muto and Malik Sealy’s senior year, SJ lost to Tulane, in the game that convinced Lou to hang up his sweater.
Now, that might not rise to the heights of despair suffered by fans of say the Buffalo Bills or Minnesota Vikings, but only because Saint John’s never reached as many championship games as those guys. Our hopes were always dashed much earlier. So to that guy, whoever he was, consider buying your kid some cute Duke rompers this Christmas, and maybe some Patriots sheets to lay his head on at night. And to the kid, good luck, you’re going to need it.
First- your assuming DePaul is a legit college basketball team. How could I mention that awful team/sister school of ours.
Second, I never heard of or knew anything about those games. Good recap and learning experience- sadly a tortured history much like my Mets and Jets.
This is why you are legend!
Nice win against Butler tonight to keep hope alive for a tourney birth.