6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2011 Class => Topic started by: peter on July 14, 2010, 08:53:20 PM
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According to Scout and the player, St. John's has some interest; Scout says St. John's has offered.
http://saintjohns.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=8&c=1&nid=4719792 (http://saintjohns.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=8&c=1&nid=4719792)
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=103125&season=2011&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d103125%26season%3d2011 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=103125&season=2011&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d103125%26season%3d2011)
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/phillipgreenedepaul.html (http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/phillipgreenedepaul.html)
Greene, a 6'2" guard, spent time with the entire DePaul coaching staff, and came away very impressed with new head coach Oliver Purnell. “I really like Coach Purnell, and the whole staff they have over there. DePaul is now in my top five.â€
Greene is pleased with the way his recruitment is progressing. “My recruitment is going well right now. I’m looking at a lot of schools, and I plan on trying to take some visits to some schools. West Virginia, UTEP, Dayton, DePaul, St. Johns, Oregon State, Purdue, Iowa, Oklahoma State, Minnesota, Colorado, Southern Illinois, Bradley, Indiana State, and some other schools.â€
Greene knows exactly what he is looking for in a school. "A school that I could come in and play right away and a school that plays an up-tempo style of basketball. Also, the school has to have a good coach and be a stable program. I plan to make a decision before the school season. I don’t really know when for sure, but when I feel comfortable with a school and a school is comfortable with me.â€
West Virginia has offered, apparently.
http://depaul.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1092487 (http://depaul.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1092487)
The son of Aoatoyria Robinson and Phillip Greene III, the guard was ranked as the 12th best prospect in Chicago by sun-times.com before his junior season: "Still a bit of a sleeper but will wake people up quickly with his scoring ability. He's a scorer in every sense of the word. He's in the mold of former Boston College scorer Tyrese Rice."
He plays on Meanstreets AAU with Anthony Davis, so lots of coaches will see him ball (Davis is rocketing up the rankings):
http://depaul.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080828 (http://depaul.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080828)
Greene is a big time scorer who is just wired to get buckets. He scores outside and from the mid-range. Greene is a good athlete with a strong frame, and someone who just knows what it takes to be lethal with the ball in his hands.
Phillip Greene (Meanstreets 2011) "Chicago's Best Kept Secret" SWAGair Highlight Mixtape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02KWP0vKjN0#ws)
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Looks to have a sweet stroke.
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http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/greenedepaul.html (http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/greenedepaul.html)
“I plan to make a decision on a school in November. West Virginia, DePaul, St. Johns, Oregon, UTEP, and Oklahoma State are all up there and near the top of my list. At the moment, I’m just weighing my options.â€
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[tweet]http://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/21249528124[/tweet]
Mean$treets kid
WVU and DePaul are after him
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Looks like we are in his top 3 and he enjoyed his visit this weekend.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/17/phil-greene-has-a-top-3/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/17/phil-greene-has-a-top-3/)
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Looks like we are in his top 3 and he enjoyed his visit this weekend.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/17/phil-greene-has-a-top-3/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/17/phil-greene-has-a-top-3/)
And he's coming back for an official.
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Per Rivals (via SJUhoopNUT on Redmen.com)....
"It was fun and I liked it a lot," Greene said of the time spent at St. John's. "They took me to The Garden where they play home games. They showed me the practice facility. It was all good. I definitely had a good feeling there."
Greene also had a chance to meet one-on-one with the Red Storm coaching staff, including new head coach Steve Lavin.
"Coach Lavin sat down with me, told me about the style of play they're going to run and how I could help," Greene said. "He's a cool dude, everything was real good. He wasn't just telling me what I want to hear."
http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1114841&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= (http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1114841&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)
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I expect that he is better than Mike Taylor.
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Phil due on campus tomorrow for an official.
Is he a SG or combo ?
Not ranked as high as some of the other guards on our list,
but if scout list is true, has been offered by 7 majors.
Hope the Tropical storm doesnt hurt his visit.
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Phil due on campus tomorrow for an official.
Is he a SG or combo ?
Not ranked as high as some of the other guards on our list,
but if scout list is true, has been offered by 7 majors.
Hope the Tropical storm doesnt hurt his visit.
He's a 2. The kid can shoot it; defend and overall seems like one of those "glue guys."
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Per Zagsblog.... Phil Greene, a 6-foot-2, 170-pound senior combo guard from Chicago, will visit St. John’s ‘this coming weekend and West Virginia the weekend of Sept. 17.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/07/greene-visiting-sju-west-virginia-tyler-harris-sets-in-home-visits/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/07/greene-visiting-sju-west-virginia-tyler-harris-sets-in-home-visits/)
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Per Zagsblog.... Greene's visit is off 'til the spring.
Dan Barto, the post-graduate coordinator/coach at the IMG Basketball Academy, said none of his players, including guard Phil Greene and wing DeAndre Daniels, will visit anywhere until 2011 and won’t sign until the spring.
“None of our kids are going to take any visits until 2011,†Barto said Saturday by phone. “We’re trying to rebuild our team from scratch. We need all our guys here taking care of their schoolwork.â€
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/18/greene-img-players-to-sign-late/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/18/greene-img-players-to-sign-late/)
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I think its great news for us !
Allows us to see which of our other SG guard recruits come
(Brown, Harrison)
we were never going to fill 7-8 scholarships in the fall
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He's still listing the Johnnies, as one of his schools of choice. Greene is also having a heckuva season at the moment....
Phil Greene, who blossomed on the AAU circuit while playing on Mean Streets with Anthony Davis, is getting better and better.
“Man, he’s good,” Borman said. “He’s clearly a high-major.” Borman added that Greene is averaging 28 points and 11 assists through the first eight games of the season.
As for recruiting, Kansas, Oklahoma State, St. John’s, West Virginia and many others are showing interest.
http://www.bustingthebracket.com/2010/11/deandre-daniels-and-teammates-waiting.html?spref=tw (http://www.bustingthebracket.com/2010/11/deandre-daniels-and-teammates-waiting.html?spref=tw)
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His game reminds me of Ben Gordon when I saw him in high school. It's kind of scarey. I just flashed back to watching Gordon hit two three's in the last 20 seconds to beat my high school at the buzzer after trailing by four.
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Phillip Greene (IMG High School)- Greene’s pedigree as an explosive scorer was on fully display against Brooks on Friday, as he consistently pushed the pace for athletic finishes in transition and scored in the half court with a smooth-looking mid-range pull-up. A long, wiry athlete, the 6’2” lead guard consistently harasses opposing ball-handlers and creates havoc out front on the defensive, igniting his team’s transition offense off deflections and steals.
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1753/Scholar-Roundball-Classic-Friday-Recap.php (http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1753/Scholar-Roundball-Classic-Friday-Recap.php)
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I, initially thought we might not go after Greene any longer. But, I think that may change considering what many of us have witnessed in the first month of this season.
Phillip Greene (IMG High)- A long, quick athlete on the perimeter, Greene was a defensive menace on Saturday, relentlessly pressuring Milton’s group of smaller, less-athletic guards out of their comfort zones and into turnovers that ignited IMG’s transition offense. Catching fire in the second half from behind the arc to the tune of four threes, Greene (17 points) remained a constant presence with his work ethic and playmaking ability as a disruptive lock-down defender.
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1754/Scholar-Roundball-Classic-Saturday-Recap.php (http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1754/Scholar-Roundball-Classic-Saturday-Recap.php)
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I don't want to say we need him, be we can really use this kid. We don't really have a TRUE SG after Harrison and Greene could fill that role and add depth to the point, and even play the three in a very small lineup.
He really fits into what we want to do and he'll give us another ball-handler on the floor at all times.
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I don't want to say we need him, be we can really use this kid. We don't really have a TRUE SG after Harrison and Greene could fill that role and add depth to the point, and even play the three in a very small lineup.
He really fits into what we want to do and he'll give us another ball-handler on the floor at all times.
I agree with you, Marillac. He fits what we wanna do, as he can get up-and-down the floor, as well as being a solid defender. Not to mention, being a very capable outside shooter. He and Chandler are the two kids I hope we land in the late signing period. IMO, that would be the cherry on top of our bonanza-like recruiting class.
Greene also has something I truly like.... Intangibles.
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I don't want to say we need him, be we can really use this kid. We don't really have a TRUE SG after Harrison and Greene could fill that role and add depth to the point, and even play the three in a very small lineup.
He really fits into what we want to do and he'll give us another ball-handler on the floor at all times.
I agree with you, Marillac. He fits what we wanna do, as he can get up-and-down the floor, as well as being a solid defender. Not to mention, being a very capable outside shooter. He and Chandler are the two kids I hope we land in the late signing period. IMO, that would be the cherry on top of our bonanza-like recruiting class.
Greene also has something I truly like.... Intangibles.
Even watching this kid for 30 seconds it's hard to imagine he's not a top 75 ranked kid at this point. I'm not sure what the "experts" think he's missing. I really don't want to see this kid end up at WV or another Big East school because he could be very good and we could really use his talents to tie this roster together. Him and Chandler would just be awesome.
I think this class needs one more legit scoring threat. Sampson, Pelle, Polee, Pointer, and Garrett all seem like guys better suited for other areas besides carrying big portion of the scoring load. Harkless could be that guy, but if Harrison and/or Nuri are sitting it'd be nice to pull a true scorer like Greene off the bench. Greene looks to be able to both stroke it and shot-fake, dribble, then pullup. That is what Lavin has been trying to install this year at least.
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It would be great to dip into Chicago and find a true sleeper.
We've talked about our bread and butter being the top high school kids,
but Chicago's talent destroys ours on NY's best day.
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Per Rivals....
Phil Greene, PG/SG, IMG- The question is, which Phil Greene is the real Phil Greene? Is he the guy who struggled with his decisions and shot for the better part of two games? Or, is he the guy who put his team on his shoulders and knocked down some tough, contested and deep jumpers while leading his team on a furious comeback that fell just short against Oak Ridge? High majors are watching him closely and he definitely has the athleticism and quickness to play on that level. He also demonstrated that he can make some difficult shots. Now, can he show the feel and consistent decision making of a high major guy?
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1171691 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1171691)
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i want phil greene to round out the class. hell give us more ball handling shooting and defense.
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Perhaps he's a JUCO kind of guy. It keeps sounding like teams like him, but not enough to really woo him.
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Perhaps he's a JUCO kind of guy. It keeps sounding like teams like him, but not enough to really woo him.
He's more than a "JUCO kind of guy." He has offers from several high majors (St. John's being one of 'em), but his coach at IMG doesn't want his kids to focus on college 'til the spring. What could happen while he wait 'til the spring is some high majors may rescind their offers, if he has a few more games like he had over the weekend.
He's played fairly well for the most part this season. He probably didn't fare too well (inconsistent) over the weekend and need to remain focused throughout the remainder of the season. Considering, we won't need immediate help from him next season.... He's probably worth the offer.
We'll find out more in the spring.
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He's more than a "JUCO kind of guy." He has offers from several high majors (St. John's being one of 'em), but his coach at IMG doesn't want his kids to focus on college 'til the spring. What could happen while he wait 'til the spring is some high majors may rescind their offers, if he has a few more games like he had over the weekend.
He's played fairly well for the most part this season. He probably didn't fare too well (inconsistent) over the weekend and need to remain focused throughout the remainder of the season. Considering, we won't need immediate help from him next season.... He's probably worth the offer.
We'll find out more in the spring.
Nothing wrong with a year extra to work out a guy's game, gain some weight as well - if he's not getting the solid offers he thinks he should get. I think he'll wait til the spring as well; there's a lot of room for players to get to a better school if they play decently and are available at the end of the recruiting year. So many schools have whiffed on top-100 players (like UCLA), they might be handing out offers they wouldn't have in the fall to players who can play a little.
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Perhaps he's a JUCO kind of guy. It keeps sounding like teams like him, but not enough to really woo him.
I think this is waaaaaaaaay off. His coach isn't letting him take visits, so there really isn't much that can be done right now. If he's eligible he'll be playing at a high major.
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Greene to be in NYC to see the Johnnies beat the 'Cuse. ;)
Greene, a 6-2 point guard, is now attending the IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla., after transferring from Chicago's Julian High. He has reportedly also received interest from Arizona State, West Virginia, Oklahoma State and Oregon. Kansas reportedly also is expressing interest now.
Greene's great speed would lend itself well to the Johnnies' transition game. He could log minutes at both guard positions, but a high basketball IQ and an ability to involve others well make him an excellent candidate to get most of his minutes at point guard.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/basketcase/2011/01/chicago-area-recruit-phil-greene-expected-to-attend-st-johns-syracuse-at-garden (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/basketcase/2011/01/chicago-area-recruit-phil-greene-expected-to-attend-st-johns-syracuse-at-garden)
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Can he shoot?
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I hope to God the snow kept him away from last nights game. Dear God, as a catholic school please grant me that one prayer thanks
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Can he shoot?
Yes, he can shoot.
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I hope to God the snow kept him away from last nights game. Dear God, as a catholic school please grant me that one prayer thanks
He'll be there on Sunday.
By the way, read more and post less.
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Can he shoot?
Yes, he can shoot.
Espn doesn´t agree to you.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene)
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Espn doesn´t agree to you.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene)
And? He's a capable shooter from outside. Of course, he isn't a JJ Reddick-deadeye shooter. But, he is quite capable from shooting behind the arc.
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Espn doesn´t agree to you.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene)
And? He's a capable shooter from outside. Of course, he isn't a JJ Reddick-deadeye shooter. But, he is quite capable from shooting behind the arc.
Some of our actual players are quite capable from shooting behind the arc, too.
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Espn doesn´t agree to you.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103125/phillip-greene)
And? He's a capable shooter from outside. Of course, he isn't a JJ Reddick-deadeye shooter. But, he is quite capable from shooting behind the arc.
Some of our actual players are quite capable from shooting behind the arc, too.
He is a kid who can hit shots from behind the arc. What else you want me to say? He's a JJ Redick-clone?
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There's was a recruit there last night. I don't know what Greene looks like. Post a photo and I'll tell you if it was him.
Okay, I just looked him up. It wasn't him.
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Can he shoot?
HAHA, and does he get back on D after his shot gets blocked?
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There's was a recruit there last night. I don't know what Greene looks like. Post a photo and I'll tell you if it was him.
Okay, I just looked him up. It wasn't him.
There was talk of Isaiah Lewis going to the game. Also article I posted on Redmen about how Cuse is his dream school.
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As per Recruitscoop
Due to the snow, Phil Greene '11 of Chicago will not be attending the St. John's game tonight. He will attend their game on Sunday, though.
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phils status on facebook yesterday said "At St.Johns practice at MSG its lookin right"
lets hope this along with what he saw during the ND game will be enough. i think it will be
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/01/16/phil-greene-to-st-johns/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/01/16/phil-greene-to-st-johns/)
According to Zags he has verbally committed.
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Awesome! Can't wait till next season! But oh wait, we're actually playing well this season!
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ha guess i was right. i wouldn't mind his big teammate coming with him.
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Zags also says Lavin plans on using Stith, Lindsey, Harrison, and Greene interchangeably. Thats a nice lineup of guards who can handle the ball and shoot. Stith as the 3rd or 4th option isn't bad at all, man we will be deep at guard and forward.
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Great news! Welcome aboard Phillip Greene! When's the last time we brought someone in from Chicago?
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Great news! Welcome aboard Phillip Greene! When's the last time we brought someone in from Chicago?
Aaron Spears?
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Great news! Welcome aboard Phillip Greene! When's the last time we brought someone in from Chicago?
Aaron Spears?
Forgot about him...at least tried to :)
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Welcome, Phil. :)
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welcome aboard
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Welcome aboard Phil.
I think it's inevitable well use the 10th ship (Jevon gets Quincy's transfer scholly) on a big. We kinda have to at this point. If something happens to Pelle like an extended injury or something else we are gonna be in tough shape. We are going to have to go with a combo of Polee, Sampson and Meikle at the 4/5 for extended minutes.
ANd this doesnt even take into account if Pelle gets in foul trouble....
Hopefully the big is God's Gift...
Also...I credit Phil Greene, Amir Garrett, and Sir Dom among others to commit knowing the type of players we already brought in at similar positions. I think it takes a lot of guts to do that knowing the competition and it also shows alot of confidence in each of their abilities. Also, a huge credit to Lavin and his recruiting skills.
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Welcome aboard Phil! We need another BIG and we will be set.
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Video interview with Zags: http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/01/20/big-east-report-greene-talks-st-johns-commitment-the-latest-on-deandre-daniels/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/01/20/big-east-report-greene-talks-st-johns-commitment-the-latest-on-deandre-daniels/)
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Green, a 6-foot-3 guard, had a host of programs recruiting him, but he fell for the historic side of St. John's.
"He loves New York and he loves Madison Square Garden," Walden said. "That was his dream school. He wanted to go to St. John's."
http://www.imgacademies.com/basketball-academy/news/phil-greene-headed-to-st-johns/989/ (http://www.imgacademies.com/basketball-academy/news/phil-greene-headed-to-st-johns/989/)
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment. If you are referring to his playing time I think you are wrong. With Greene, Lindsey, and Harrison we have three guards in this class. If he plays well he will see plenty of time as a backup guard next year and if Lindsey leaves early at any point he could even start games. From everything I have read he seems like a good solid player and if he works hard and keeps improving he will find plenty of PT. We are not all that deep with guards, if he were a combo forward I would agree he would be stuck on the bench but he is a combo guard.
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment.
I don't get anything Baldi says. I'm wondering why he spends time on this site when IONA is his true love.
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment.
I don't get anything Baldi says. I'm wondering why he spends time on this site when IONA is his true love.
If the 23 other guards already signed are better than him, why the hell would he come here? To sit next to Dunlap? Same goes for Calhoun. Are we going to start 5 guards?
And for Moose, I grew up a St Johns fan long before I ever heard of Iona. I went to Iona, therefore I am a fan. Ive said this numerous times,Is that hard to follow?
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment.
I don't get anything Baldi says. I'm wondering why he spends time on this site when IONA is his true love.
If you spent 8 years of your life as an Iona student you'd love them too.
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment.
I don't get anything Baldi says. I'm wondering why he spends time on this site when IONA is his true love.
If you spent 8 years of your life as an Iona student you'd love them too.
lol. I was there 4 years and I think I would be a junior
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment.
I don't get anything Baldi says. I'm wondering why he spends time on this site when IONA is his true love.
If the 23 other guards already signed are better than him, why the hell would he come here? To sit next to Dunlap? Same goes for Calhoun. Are we going to start 5 guards?
And for Moose, I grew up a St Johns fan long before I ever heard of Iona. I went to Iona, therefore I am a fan. Ive said this numerous times,Is that hard to follow?
You seem to take great pleasure in backhanded comments STJ's way. I know many STJ fans who are still STJ fans and much more than their alma mater (not that I have an issue with that). Maybe I wish I knew you and your posts when Iona won 1-2 games that year to see if the backhanded comments flew your alma mater's way as well.
As for guards I count 3 signed (Nuri, Harrison and Greene) I 'think' Amir and Dom can see time at the 2 depending on matchups. Nobody else can play the 2.
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment.
I don't get anything Baldi says. I'm wondering why he spends time on this site when IONA is his true love.
If the 23 other guards already signed are better than him, why the hell would he come here? To sit next to Dunlap? Same goes for Calhoun. Are we going to start 5 guards?
And for Moose, I grew up a St Johns fan long before I ever heard of Iona. I went to Iona, therefore I am a fan. Ive said this numerous times,Is that hard to follow?
You seem to take great pleasure in backhanded comments STJ's way. I know many STJ fans who are still STJ fans and much more than their alma mater (not that I have an issue with that). Maybe I wish I knew you and your posts when Iona won 1-2 games that year to see if the backhanded comments flew your alma mater's way as well.
As for guards I count 3 signed (Nuri, Harrison and Greene) I 'think' Amir and Dom can see time at the 2 depending on matchups. Nobody else can play the 2.
Ok than Greene gets time and 2 of the signed SF's are unhappy and would be gone after 1 year. I dont think all the signed recruits make it to their soph yers at SJU
The Iona AD and Ruland got beat up on the message board that year. And the school made changes
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Is this kid better than the other recruits? If not, hes nuts
I dont get this comment.
I don't get anything Baldi says. I'm wondering why he spends time on this site when IONA is his true love.
If the 23 other guards already signed are better than him, why the hell would he come here? To sit next to Dunlap? Same goes for Calhoun. Are we going to start 5 guards?
And for Moose, I grew up a St Johns fan long before I ever heard of Iona. I went to Iona, therefore I am a fan. Ive said this numerous times,Is that hard to follow?
You seem to take great pleasure in backhanded comments STJ's way. I know many STJ fans who are still STJ fans and much more than their alma mater (not that I have an issue with that). Maybe I wish I knew you and your posts when Iona won 1-2 games that year to see if the backhanded comments flew your alma mater's way as well.
As for guards I count 3 signed (Nuri, Harrison and Greene) I 'think' Amir and Dom can see time at the 2 depending on matchups. Nobody else can play the 2.
Ok than Greene gets time and 2 of the signed SF's are unhappy and would be gone after 1 year. I dont think all the signed recruits make it to their soph yers at SJU
The Iona AD and Ruland got beat up on the message board that year. And the school made changes
Fair point about who stays. We will see. That kid left USC after getting 20 mpg as a freshman. Who knows.
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do we have a LOI yet?
if not WHY........
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do we have a LOI yet?
if not WHY........
I remember you. A very annoying poster from what I recall. When he signs then you'll know.
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legiitimate question followed by an attack
stupid to the highest degree
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do we have a LOI yet?
if not WHY........
I remember you. A very annoying poster from what I recall. When he signs then you'll know.
Agreed
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legiitimate question followed by an attack
stupid to the highest degree
First of all, look at how you asked the question. It's the manner of how you presented it. Look at how you posed your question.
Not to mention, typing in all CAPS is considered 'yelling.' Secondly, if anyone had info I'm more than sure it would've been posted. Thirdly, you could've posted your question in the "Phil Greene" thread in the recruiting section. Lastly, your posting history has shown you to be rather annoying.
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thanks for your advise
as inane as it is
a question is all
who died and made you god
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Greene hasnt signed a LOI yet because he hasnt been committed to us during a signing period
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Greene hasnt signed a LOI yet because he hasnt been committed to us during a signing period
I thought yesterday was the start the late signing period.
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Greene hasnt signed a LOI yet because he hasnt been committed to us during a signing period
Huh? WHat does that have do with anything?
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do we have a LOI yet?
if not WHY........
Greene hasnt signed a LOI yet because he hasnt been committed to us during a signing period
Huh? WHat does that have do with anything?
i was tring to answer cheeses question. Maybe i was wrong on the dates
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For those wondering, Greene faxed in his NLI today per Zags on twitter.
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For those wondering, Greene faxed in his NLI today per Zags on twitter.
See pic. Welcome to SJU Phil:
http://twitpic.com/4kv0ja (http://twitpic.com/4kv0ja)
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Per Rumble in the Garden.... One of the vids is pretty recent.
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/4/21/2123986/st-johns-recruiting-phil-greene-commits-get-to-know (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/4/21/2123986/st-johns-recruiting-phil-greene-commits-get-to-know)
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Wondering.
The press release from STJ yesterday said that Greene was MVP of IMG this year. Wasn't Deandre Daniels on IMG? If he won over Daniels thats pretty impressive.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/lavin_lands_prize_eyes_two_more_KpmPviP3UOp1AMv0R5Uq0N (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/lavin_lands_prize_eyes_two_more_KpmPviP3UOp1AMv0R5Uq0N)
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It's criminal this kid is not in the top 75. He's the only player I've seen live out of our signing class. He reminds me a lot of what I saw out of Ben Gordon when I saw him play his junior yeat at my high school.
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It's criminal this kid is not in the top 75. He's the only player I've seen live out of our signing class. He reminds me a lot of what I saw out of Ben Gordon when I saw him play his junior yeat at my high school.
The kid does look good from what I saw and he seems longer than our other guards. His build reminds me of Jason Clark from gtown
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Asked Bossi and Meyer about why Greene wasn't ranked on the Rivals board. This was Bossi's response-
Eric/Jerry
Was hoping you could touch on Phil Greene a bit. I thought I read he was picked as MVP of his IMG team over Daniels and Traylor. Seeing Traylor on the list but no Greene?
Thanks!
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I think Greene is a very good high school player but am not sure what role he plays at the high major level and see him as a mid/high major bubble guy. Don't see him as a point, but he isn't really a two either. Will score some, but not overly athletic. Would probably put him in the top 175-200 range, so he's not a slouch by any means!
With Traylor, can seem him as a role/specialist rebound and energy guy at a high major.
Daniels didn't play a game at IMG after the first week of December.
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Asked Bossi and Meyer about why Greene wasn't ranked on the Rivals board. This was Bossi's response-
Eric/Jerry
Was hoping you could touch on Phil Greene a bit. I thought I read he was picked as MVP of his IMG team over Daniels and Traylor. Seeing Traylor on the list but no Greene?
Thanks!
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I think Greene is a very good high school player but am not sure what role he plays at the high major level and see him as a mid/high major bubble guy. Don't see him as a point, but he isn't really a two either. Will score some, but not overly athletic. Would probably put him in the top 175-200 range, so he's not a slouch by any means!
With Traylor, can seem him as a role/specialist rebound and energy guy at a high major.
Daniels didn't play a game at IMG after the first week of December.
I have seen several videos of Greene. Bossi is underrating his athleticism. The kid is fast in the open court and a very good athlete overall. 175-200 range is absurd IMO. If that is the case, then why is Myles Mack and Elijah Carter in the top 115? Mack is a tweener guard and is really undersized. IMO similar in game to Greene except a bit shorter.
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I have seen several videos of Greene. Bossi is underrating his athleticism. The kid is fast in the open court and a very good athlete overall. 175-200 range is absurd IMO. If that is the case, then why is Myles Mack and Elijah Carter in the top 115? Mack is a tweener guard and is really undersized. IMO similar in game to Greene except a bit shorter.
Exactly, MCN! Bossi is definitely underrating Greene's game. Greene is quite fluid and does exude athleticism. He may not be in the class of guys like Pointer, Pelle and Garrett when it comes to athleticism, but he is athletic. I liked what I've seen of Greene (briefly, in person) and per videos to know he is a pretty decent athlete. Not to mention, somewhat crafty.
175-200 range, huh? Please!
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For what its worth, ESPN has him ranked 91 and Traylor 89. They call him "a shifty ball handler". He could add some strength,which will come with time and can use improvement with his 3 point shot. He sounds like he may be a better PG then SG(a 92 ranking is 4 star). What's more important than rankings is his future play.
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For what its worth, ESPN has him ranked 91 and Traylor 89. They call him "a shifty ball handler". He could add some strength,which will come with time and can use improvement with his 3 point shot. He sounds like he may be a better PG then SG(a 92 ranking is 4 star). What's more important than rankings is his future play.
That is the scouting grade and not their ranking.
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You are correct, I meant scouting grade. Although a grade of 91 is pretty good.
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FWIW Hoopmasters (Coleman/Gibbons) have him at 141 though I'm not sure when they last updated their rankings.
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Phil Greene at the Chicago Hoops Classic: http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/5/1/2147463/phil-greene-evaluation-st-johns-recruiting-chicago-hoops-classic (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/5/1/2147463/phil-greene-evaluation-st-johns-recruiting-chicago-hoops-classic)
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Phil Greene at the Chicago Hoops Classic: http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/5/1/2147463/phil-greene-evaluation-st-johns-recruiting-chicago-hoops-classic (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/5/1/2147463/phil-greene-evaluation-st-johns-recruiting-chicago-hoops-classic)
Nice write up Peter! I have a couple questions for you if you don't mind:
1.) Do you think Greene can handle playing pg from what you saw from his handle, passing and court vision?
2.) Any reason he didn't play a lot of minutes? (not sure you would know the answer)
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The game was an all-star game, so a lot of guys got chunks of minutes - each time had 3 rotations of 5 and 4 12 minute quarters. I couldn't say why he didn't get more minutes; his unit started the second half and seemed to cut into the West Side's lead a little... but really, the South Side got smoked early. I don't think he was the highest impact guy on his side, but none of them seemed really in sync like the West's starting 5, where 3 of the guys had played together and the other 2 played with each other.
Again, it's an all star game, so grain of salt.
As for handling the PG, yes, in a sense. He has enough dribble and penetration ability in an open game. Does he have the mental game to play PG, run a team? I don't know, can't tell. Looked like he did a lot of dribbling to free himself up in the half court. But again, it's an all-star game, that's what guys do.
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The big city lights and playing in arguably the best college basketball conference were part of what hooked Phillip Greene.
The point guard joined more than 70 other IMG Academy athletes in celebrating their various college choices during the spring commitment ceremony Thursday at State College of Florida’s Neel Performing Arts Center.
Greene chose St. John’s University, which enjoyed an NCAA Tournament appearance and 21 wins in Steve Lavin’s first year as head coach.
“I’m a city kid, so I like the city,” said Greene, who hails from Chicago. “They are in the spotlight, so I get to play Madison Square Garden almost every home game, and the style of play was easy for me to choose.”
The Red Storm, who play in the vaunted Big East, qualified for the NCAA Tournament for the first time since the 2001-02 campaign last season.
Greene’s training at IMG Academies helps make the transition to the college game a little smoother.
“They have the best facilities in the nation,” said Greene, who also thought about heading home for college ball at DePaul. “The coaches really know what they’re doing. They’re professionals, so they know what it takes to get to that level.”
Read more: http://www.bradenton.com/2011/05/13/3192005/imgs-best-announce-college-picks.html#ixzz1MEWOFeTo (http://www.bradenton.com/2011/05/13/3192005/imgs-best-announce-college-picks.html#ixzz1MEWOFeTo)
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Paging Norm Roberts, did you hear this one?
“They have the best facilities in the nation,”
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Paging Norm Roberts, did you hear this one?
“They have the best facilities in the nation,”
He's referring to IMG, not STJ.
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Paging Norm Roberts, did you hear this one?
“They have the best facilities in the nation,”
Do people just sit and wait to take shots at Norm Roberts. Im surprised people arent still starting posts bashing him constantly (maybe mods are preventing it).
We all know the job Norm did at St Johns but give it a rest already. He didnt hire himself and didnt pay himself for 6 years. Anyone who thinks he did something wrong and needs to keep putting him down needs to look in the mirror.
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Certain posters have certain MO's, you get used to it.
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Do people just sit and wait to take shots at Norm Roberts. Im surprised people arent still starting posts bashing him constantly (maybe mods are preventing it).
We all know the job Norm did at St Johns but give it a rest already. He didnt hire himself and didnt pay himself for 6 years. Anyone who thinks he did something wrong and needs to keep putting him down needs to look in the mirror.
Mods aren't preventing anything. I am personally a big time Norm basher
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Norm Roberts owes me 6 years of college basketball. He can go f himself. I could care less if anyone has a problem with how much a despise him. He turned this program into a trash can, and had the gaul to blame Jarvis as much as 5 years after the fact.
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Jarvis did a lot more damage to SJBB than Roberts. When Jarvis took over the program was great when he departed the program was in shambles.
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Norm Roberts owes me 6 years of college basketball. He can go f himself. I could care less if anyone has a problem with how much a despise him. He turned this program into a trash can, and had the gaul to blame Jarvis as much as 5 years after the fact.
Very intelligent post on your part.
The man took over a 6 win team and got them to 17 or 18 wins, that is improvement no matter how you look at it. Slow, painful, plenty of misses, absolutely but progress. Every kid graduated and no one embarrassed the program. Dont know which SJU team you follow but your facts are certainly mixed up.
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This thread is about Phil Greene...thank you!
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I was about to ask Poison if he either goes to school at Florida Atlantic or is currently on some medication. :D
Jarvis messed up the program so bad that there almost wasn't going to be one.
Norm TRIED to rebuild it. He did to an extent that he cleaned it up. However, he didn't in terms of wins. Although he lacked the ability to develop and maximize a player's potential, he did a decent enough job to recruit good enough players to lay the foundation for Lavin and staff to make the great run that we did this year.
So as painful as those six years under Norm were, let it go. We are on the right path now.
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Alright guys I know I'm guilty too but this is Phil Greene's thread if you guys want to debate who messed up the program more Jarvis or Norm let me know and I will split the topic
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Norm Roberts owes me 6 years of college basketball. He can go f himself. I could care less if anyone has a problem with how much a despise him. He turned this program into a trash can, and had the gaul to blame Jarvis as much as 5 years after the fact.
Very intelligent post on your part.
The man took over a 6 win team and got them to 17 or 18 wins, that is improvement no matter how you look at it. Slow, painful, plenty of misses, absolutely but progress. Every kid graduated and no one embarrassed the program. Dont know which SJU team you follow but your facts are certainly mixed up.
17-18 wins against LIU, Depaul twice, St.Francis, Ivy league bottom feeders, Bryant and NJIT.
I'm sorry, but those 17-18 wins do not count. If they did count, it would be because they were against teams that belonged in D1 hoops. Norms non-conference opponents did not.
What's his BE record? And Jarvis'?
Jarvis' worst season at SJU he went 7-9, and won the NIT.
In Norm's best season, we went 7-9, and lost in the first round of BE.
Seems pretty intelligent to me.
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Alright guys I know I'm guilty too but this is Phil Greene's thread if you guys want to debate who messed up the program more Jarvis or Norm let me know and I will split the topic
Agree.... Let's get this thread back on topic.
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I think Greene's commitment sends a strong message to Chicago's high school basketball players. I can't remember the last time we landed a good recruit from the windy city. Things have changed, the better players come from outside of NY now. Our presence in Chicago could lead to the next D Wade.
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I think Greene's commitment sends a strong message to Chicago's high school basketball players. I can't remember the last time we landed a good recruit from the windy city. Things have changed, the better players come from outside of NY now. Our presence in Chicago could lead to the next D Wade.
Wonder how much having Keady on the bench helps with Chicago recruiting. Gene used to drive the 120 miles up from Lafayette every year and poach 1 or 2 Windy City kids for Purdue....Gene only left Purdue in 2005 - the kids coming out now were middle schoolers back then - he still has a lot of gravitas with the midwest kids. Probably another 3 or 4 years worht of recruits will remember him and his teams from their grade school days of following college hoops.
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081111aaa.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081111aaa.html)
Interview with Phil Greene.
Says Malik Stith is showing them the ropes in the workouts.
Called D'Angelo Harrison the "head of operations". Says he's really hard working and is pushing everybody to work harder. Love it.
Describes himself as a pass-first guard first and foremost.
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081111aaa.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081111aaa.html)
Interview with Phil Greene.
Says Malik Stith is showing them the ropes in the workouts.
Called D'Angelo Harrison the "head of operations". Says he's really hard working and is pushing everybody to work harder. Love it.
Describes himself as a pass-first guard first and foremost.
He's going to be our most athletic guard by a mile. New Stith video up as well. He says the new kids are very confident and have high expectations for this season....and he doesn't want to burst their bubbles but the Big East is tough and they will have their downs.
Called them gym rats. You have to love that because that is coming from the hardest worker on last year's squad.
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thanks for the link to the video. i don't know how strong Phil is yet but he looked like he was wearing football shoulder pads in the interview.
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081111aaa.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081111aaa.html)
Interview with Phil Greene.
Says Malik Stith is showing them the ropes in the workouts.
Called D'Angelo Harrison the "head of operations". Says he's really hard working and is pushing everybody to work harder. Love it.
Describes himself as a pass-first guard first and foremost.
He's going to be our most athletic guard by a mile. New Stith video up as well. He says the new kids are very confident and have high expectations for this season....and he doesn't want to burst their bubbles but the Big East is tough and they will have their downs.
Called them gym rats. You have to love that because that is coming from the hardest worker on last year's squad.
Not sure why you say that? Heard Nuri is real athletic as well. D'Angelo might not be a speed demon, but is no slouch. Amir can play guard as well.
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Rajon Rondo with a jump shot...clearly looking to be a PG with the pass first point guard comment.
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Two takes: Loved his comment on Mean Streets "not like most AAU teams, more like HS" in terms of coaching and prep - good to see SOME kids GET the difference!
2nd: How the heck does a truly athletic kid who puts up 24pts 6 asssts for a program like IMG as a senior and played for an AAU squad like Mean Streets go so underrecruited??????
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Two takes: Loved his comment on Mean Streets "not like most AAU teams, more like HS" in terms of coaching and prep - good to see SOME kids GET the difference!
2nd: How the heck does a truly athletic kid who puts up 24pts 6 asssts for a program like IMG as a senior and played for an AAU squad like Mean Streets go so underrecruited??????
Greene was good for Meanstreets, but others were better. Anthony Davis was on that squad, I believe, and I don't think he was ranked before last summer; Mean Streets could have just been a squad that a lot of high major coaches didn't watch all that closely. Also, Greene is very, very skinny.
We'll see what this all means on the court this season.
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Two takes: Loved his comment on Mean Streets "not like most AAU teams, more like HS" in terms of coaching and prep - good to see SOME kids GET the difference!
2nd: How the heck does a truly athletic kid who puts up 24pts 6 asssts for a program like IMG as a senior and played for an AAU squad like Mean Streets go so underrecruited??????
Greene was good for Meanstreets, but others were better. Anthony Davis was on that squad, I believe, and I don't think he was ranked before last summer; Mean Streets could have just been a squad that a lot of high major coaches didn't watch all that closely. Also, Greene is very, very skinny.
We'll see what this all means on the court this season.
To score 24/6 per game and go unnoticed is pretty crazy though. Even if youre not watching, you notice 24/game. This is at img nonetheless, which plays against a lot of top talent and has some great talent there. Mdont get me wrong, I think it is great that few know about this kid. He's got a nice looking stroke and I think he'll be good for us as a lead guard as well. Lavin and co. Knew they wanted him right out of the gate. A good sign.
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Not that it matters(I think he'll get his minutes), but does Greene have a shot at the starting PG position?
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Two takes: Loved his comment on Mean Streets "not like most AAU teams, more like HS" in terms of coaching and prep - good to see SOME kids GET the difference!
2nd: How the heck does a truly athletic kid who puts up 24pts 6 asssts for a program like IMG as a senior and played for an AAU squad like Mean Streets go so underrecruited??????
Greene was good for Meanstreets, but others were better. Anthony Davis was on that squad, I believe, and I don't think he was ranked before last summer; Mean Streets could have just been a squad that a lot of high major coaches didn't watch all that closely. Also, Greene is very, very skinny.
We'll see what this all means on the court this season.
To score 24/6 per game and go unnoticed is pretty crazy though. Even if youre not watching, you notice 24/game. This is at img nonetheless, which plays against a lot of top talent and has some great talent there. Mdont get me wrong, I think it is great that few know about this kid. He's got a nice looking stroke and I think he'll be good for us as a lead guard as well. Lavin and co. Knew they wanted him right out of the gate. A good sign.
But that's the thing - he went to IMG and THEN got noticed. When he was in Chicago, his suitors were all mid major schools. I think he was decent for Meanstreets (that summer he was shooting well at EYBL), maybe the other Chicago names just got more attention? I don't know. I don't know that Meanstreets had recruiters' attention as much as other programs like Mac Irvin Fire did.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
I think our guard situation entering the season is pretty solid, with Nuri, d'angelo, Greene and Stith. We're real thin in the front court which is the problem. we'll be playing 3-guard sets a LOT this season with Nuri, Greene and Harrison getting tons of minutes on the court at the same time.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
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I expect to see Greene starting at the three before long if we don't any of the three ineligible players qualified. Not the tallest listed guard we have, but he looks really long and he is certainly the bounciest and fleetest afoot.
Anyody else notice that Harrison looks pretty jacked? Impressive for an 18 year old guard.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
I think he means a major contributor not just minutes-wise, but impact-wise.
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I expect to see Greene starting at the three before long if we don't any of the three ineligible players qualified. Not the tallest listed guard we have, but he looks really long and he is certainly the bounciest and fleetest afoot.
Anyody else notice that Harrison looks pretty jacked? Impressive for an 18 year old guard.
I get the strong/sturdy vibe from harrison.
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He had great stats last year, and everyone who has seen him lately has come away impressed, so I'm actually expecting a lot from him. And even if he's not ready, all the minutes he gets this year will make him a super soph.
Take whatever ppg you had in your head for him this year when everyone was expected to be eligible, and go ahead and double them.
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He can start at the 4
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He can start at the 4
Your so right
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
I think the range will be much higher than two to four walkons! I think we are looking at four as a minimum.
That transfer from LIU might end up being a lifesaver at 6'4. I imagine there will be points he has to see time at the four.
It's interesting that we are actually going to start a bigger team than last year. GG is 6'9 240 and that is much bigger than JB2. Harkless is 6'8 210 and that is bigger than Polee. The problem is the next wave. Who else can play center? Hahaha could be fun to watch.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
I think the range will be much higher than two to four walkons! I think we are looking at four as a minimum.
That transfer from LIU might end up being a lifesaver at 6'4. I imagine there will be points he has to see time at the four.
It's interesting that we are actually going to start a bigger team than last year. GG is 6'9 240 and that is much bigger than JB2. Harkless is 6'8 210 and that is bigger than Polee. The problem is the next wave. Who else can play center? Hahaha could be fun to watch.
Come on. Jamal White will NOT see time at the 4. Did you see him last year?
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
I think the range will be much higher than two to four walkons! I think we are looking at four as a minimum.
That transfer from LIU might end up being a lifesaver at 6'4. I imagine there will be points he has to see time at the four.
It's interesting that we are actually going to start a bigger team than last year. GG is 6'9 240 and that is much bigger than JB2. Harkless is 6'8 210 and that is bigger than Polee. The problem is the next wave. Who else can play center? Hahaha could be fun to watch.
I've also heard Gift isn't close to 6'9. In every picture Moe is towering over him.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
I think the range will be much higher than two to four walkons! I think we are looking at four as a minimum.
That transfer from LIU might end up being a lifesaver at 6'4. I imagine there will be points he has to see time at the four.
It's interesting that we are actually going to start a bigger team than last year. GG is 6'9 240 and that is much bigger than JB2. Harkless is 6'8 210 and that is bigger than Polee. The problem is the next wave. Who else can play center? Hahaha could be fun to watch.
Come on. Jamal White will NOT see time at the 4. Did you see him last year?
Then who will, Moose? After Mo and GG, the next tallest player we have is 6'5 Dom Pointer who will have to see time at both PF and C. GG can't play 40 mpg.
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This team will have to be a run-n-gun type. It will be fun to watch.
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This team will have to be a run-n-gun type. It will be fun to watch.
Hard to run 40 wit 7.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
I think the range will be much higher than two to four walkons! I think we are looking at four as a minimum.
That transfer from LIU might end up being a lifesaver at 6'4. I imagine there will be points he has to see time at the four.
It's interesting that we are actually going to start a bigger team than last year. GG is 6'9 240 and that is much bigger than JB2. Harkless is 6'8 210 and that is bigger than Polee. The problem is the next wave. Who else can play center? Hahaha could be fun to watch.
Come on. Jamal White will NOT see time at the 4. Did you see him last year?
Then who will, Moose? After Mo and GG, the next tallest player we have is 6'5 Dom Pointer who will have to see time at both PF and C. GG can't play 40 mpg.
I dont know. But I'm not throw a walk on to the mix. Dom will see PF time because he can rebound well. Jamal White though will not be the answer at 4.
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I dont know. But I'm not throw a walk on to the mix. Dom will see PF time because he can rebound well. Jamal White though will not be the answer at 4.
I see a lotta Willie Glass in this brother.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
I think the range will be much higher than two to four walkons! I think we are looking at four as a minimum.
That transfer from LIU might end up being a lifesaver at 6'4. I imagine there will be points he has to see time at the four.
It's interesting that we are actually going to start a bigger team than last year. GG is 6'9 240 and that is much bigger than JB2. Harkless is 6'8 210 and that is bigger than Polee. The problem is the next wave. Who else can play center? Hahaha could be fun to watch.
Now that I looked again at the roster, you're probably correct with the 4 minimum. I was thinking that the staff wouldn't just want to add 4 more 6' to 6'4" guards, but rather hopefully find some bigger players. UMD did just that since they have 6'7" and 6'8" walk ons coming in. But with a smaller student body, that will be difficult to come by - hence my reasoning w/ 4 being the ceiling. But if the staff can get more than 4 for those games where fouls become a huge issue (and it should happen at least once, no matter how careful and fundamental the guys play D), then I'll now believe they'll do it. Too bad there's no football team players to call on either. That can be a boon in seasons like this.
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Jon Rothstein
St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts. Could be an underrated member of 1st-yr class.
Lav's said this about Hardy last year and he was spot on. Expect Greene to be a major contributor.
Greene has no choice but to be a major contributor
Why? What about the numerous walk ons we will have. Coach Lavs says he is looking for a few Rudys this season. :)
Walk ons are a must - gotta have a back up plan for those one or two crazy games when things go wrong. Lavs will add 2-4 walk ons. Terps just did it being undermanned. Both my teams are going to be scrapping like crazy this season. By the end of the year, the Frosh will benefit greatly - it is a good thing too.
I think the range will be much higher than two to four walkons! I think we are looking at four as a minimum.
That transfer from LIU might end up being a lifesaver at 6'4. I imagine there will be points he has to see time at the four.
It's interesting that we are actually going to start a bigger team than last year. GG is 6'9 240 and that is much bigger than JB2. Harkless is 6'8 210 and that is bigger than Polee. The problem is the next wave. Who else can play center? Hahaha could be fun to watch.
Now that I looked again at the roster, you're probably correct with the 4 minimum. I was thinking that the staff wouldn't just want to add 4 more 6' to 6'4" guards, but rather hopefully find some bigger players. UMD did just that since they have 6'7" and 6'8" walk ons coming in. But with a smaller student body, that will be difficult to come by - hence my reasoning w/ 4 being the ceiling. But if the staff can get more than 4 for those games where fouls become a huge issue (and it should happen at least once, no matter how careful and fundamental the guys play D), then I'll now believe they'll do it. Too bad there's no football team players to call on either. That can be a boon in seasons like this.
Yeah. I'm just thinking from a practice and drill standpoint, you really need at least 12 players. The absolute minimum is 10 and that there are always kids injured or out for various reasons.
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Lavin is going to have to find a way to add some size because he has choice.
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That is why we really need Garrett in DEC.
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Really hope Garrett can get cleared.
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is it me or does Phil Greene look longer and toner in this video? good to know he's working out with some good competition.
http://gametimepros.com/video/jamari-traylor-phil-greene-kendrick-nunn-more-meanstreets-players?xg_source=shorten_twitter (http://gametimepros.com/video/jamari-traylor-phil-greene-kendrick-nunn-more-meanstreets-players?xg_source=shorten_twitter)
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hard to tell with such a grainy video but he sure does have good length and athleticism. I think phill will be great off the bench for us. Can play the 1 or the 2, can defend, and has shown signs of a nice stroke.
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You can post info about current players on the main board
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so Phil thinks there are 5 potential pros on the team. i count 4: DLo, Orlando, JKS, Obekpa
either way lots of talent on the team!
King Leonidas 300! @Bam_I_am
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@philgreene31 yal got any NBA prospects on there
Phil Greene @philgreene31
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@Bam_I_am yea it's yea it's bout 5 of us
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so Phil thinks there are 5 potential pros on the team. i count 4: DLo, Orlando, JKS, Obekpa
either way lots of talent on the team!
King Leonidas 300! @Bam_I_am
19m
@philgreene31 yal got any NBA prospects on there
Phil Greene @philgreene31
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@Bam_I_am yea it's yea it's bout 5 of us
You're forgetting there's ALREADY one million dollar pro on the team. :)
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so Phil thinks there are 5 potential pros on the team. i count 4: DLo, Orlando, JKS, Obekpa
either way lots of talent on the team!
King Leonidas 300! @Bam_I_am
19m
@philgreene31 yal got any NBA prospects on there
Phil Greene @philgreene31
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@Bam_I_am yea it's yea it's bout 5 of us
He probably counts himself as well.
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Phil Greene @philgreene31
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I feel sorry for the competition this year 🏀. It's cracking
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Didn't realize Phil had such an awesome night. Any talk of Branch as the automatic starter should be tempered.
Lenn Robbins @LennRobbins
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Phil The Rock Green IV…24 points, seven assists, one turnover, five rebounds, 39 minutes…brilliant #stjbb
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huh?
Obekpa chris @obekpa12
Everyone keep @philgreene31 in prayers for a quick recovery..
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huh?
Obekpa chris @obekpa12
Everyone keep @philgreene31 in prayers for a quick recovery..
Gonna guess surgery
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huh?
Obekpa chris @obekpa12
Everyone keep @philgreene31 in prayers for a quick recovery..
Gonna guess surgery
Phil was saying the other day on twitter that his hip was in terrible pain. I think it was mentioned that he has a labrum tear. Better to get it fixed now, because recovery is pretty long. Labrum doesn't heal all that quickly nor well. Best wishes for quick recovery.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVrWJfVoKGU
Phil shining! Led all scorers tonight out in Vegas, seizing his moment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVrWJfVoKGU
Phil shining! Led all scorers tonight out in Vegas, seizing his moment.
Watching now. He looks good. Very confident. More athletic. Playing good defense also.