6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: sju89tr on August 11, 2012, 09:51:22 AM
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Wondering what weekend this will take place?
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Wondering if it will ever be at Midnight?
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October 12th
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At 7:00 pm
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Wondering if it will ever be at Midnight?
Pretty sure no colleges have it at midnight anymore.
That novelty wore off
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The ruels changed to allow it to start earlier. Some of us have bedtimes.
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The ruels changed to allow it to start earlier. Some of us have bedtimes.
I think Midnight Madness should be for the students. This is college. An adult at something like that is kinda weird IMO.
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Only madness I care about is March Madness...
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The ruels changed to allow it to start earlier. Some of us have bedtimes.
I think Midnight Madness should be for the students. This is college. An adult at something like that is kinda weird IMO.
Because a Midnight Madness event barely fills up half the building. Students must really love it.
Without the non students the place would look event worse.
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The ruels changed to allow it to start earlier. Some of us have bedtimes.
I think Midnight Madness should be for the students. This is college. An adult at something like that is kinda weird IMO.
I really enjoyed it last year and plan to go as many times as I can. There were plenty of adults there. Check out UK's. You can't even get tickets for it--- and the building is full of old guys in blue sweatshirts. Our fanbase needs to stop being so apathetic about these things. It is intended, among other things, as an event to attract recruits. If potential recruits come, and the building is empty, it signals that the games will be empty also.
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You guys are right. Without the non student fan base it would be empty. Still, I stand by what I said. An event like this is for the students. I've stated many times before that I feel SJ students have no character. If they can't fill a tiny arena for a free basketball event, I will unfortunately continue to be right.
I hope I'm not.
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You guys are right. Without the non student fan base it would be empty. Still, I stand by what I said. An event like this is for the students. I've stated many times before that I feel SJ students have no character. If they can't fill a tiny arena for a free basketball event, I will unfortunately continue to be right.
I hope I'm not.
It has to do with years of being irrelevant and before that having a commuter school. I have no doubt in my mind that with a campus community and a top of Big East team as well as the new marketing being employed by the school that we will have more of a student influence over the next 3-5 years. It takes time.
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You guys are right. Without the non student fan base it would be empty. Still, I stand by what I said. An event like this is for the students. I've stated many times before that I feel SJ students have no character. If they can't fill a tiny arena for a free basketball event, I will unfortunately continue to be right.
I hope I'm not.
It has to do with years of being irrelevant and before that having a commuter school. I have no doubt in my mind that with a campus community and a top of Big East team as well as the new marketing being employed by the school that we will have more of a student influence over the next 3-5 years. It takes time.
st john's has been playing basketball for 100 years. how much more time do you need?
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The ruels changed to allow it to start earlier. Some of us have bedtimes.
I think Midnight Madness should be for the students. This is college. An adult at something like that is kinda weird IMO.
I really enjoyed it last year and plan to go as many times as I can. There were plenty of adults there. Check out UK's. You can't even get tickets for it--- and the building is full of old guys in blue sweatshirts. Our fanbase needs to stop being so apathetic about these things. It is intended, among other things, as an event to attract recruits. If potential recruits come, and the building is empty, it signals that the games will be empty also.
Not true.
A building full of old guys in blue sweatshirts - I'd want to play at THAT school. Add in a delusional, paranoid fan base, and it would seem like not such a great place to play. he he he
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You guys are right. Without the non student fan base it would be empty. Still, I stand by what I said. An event like this is for the students. I've stated many times before that I feel SJ students have no character. If they can't fill a tiny arena for a free basketball event, I will unfortunately continue to be right.
I hope I'm not.
It has to do with years of being irrelevant and before that having a commuter school. I have no doubt in my mind that with a campus community and a top of Big East team as well as the new marketing being employed by the school that we will have more of a student influence over the next 3-5 years. It takes time.
This is a free event. IMO there is no excuse, except for maybe actual schoolwork, for a student to not attend this. The thing is, they should want to attend this, and they should want to attend it right at this time. Lavin has a full team of talented players that are more talented and deeper than any group we've had since 2000. If this doesn't get students to go, nothing will.
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Lavin has a full team of talented players that are more talented and deeper than any group we've had since 2000. If this doesn't get students to go, nothing will.
I would never know that from reading these boards
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The curse SJU basketball,when things look good we start to worry. When things look bad we escape into fantasy.
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Shucks, I was all set to go until Poison said it is not for adults and I would be weird if I went. Oh well, another night homebound. :(
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Last year, I sat near a group of young female students. One Asian girl was incredibly hot. Unfortunately, may daughter was with me and she is older than they are. Oh well!
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I swear the day Poison is happy with our students over something is the day I win powerball
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You want students to come? Bring in the right acts. If I'm not mistaken st johns has a rule that if a music artist had been arrested then they will not perform at the school. St johns needs to get with the times. U want ur midnight madness better than Kentucky or nova then grow up and let the acts come in. Lav is doing his part it's time the school does theirs
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Take everybody's comments and put them together and I think that gives you a good picture of the issue:
1) It is about the students. Alumni who attend is great, but midnight madness is really about the student population. Poison was on the right track.
2) Better acts/entertainment surely wouldn't hurt. At some schools Midnight Madness is a pep rally combined with an on-campus concert, or "fest" (TigerFest, Husky-fest, etc).
3) And nothing motivates students and alumni alike, like on the court success. And potential doesn't always cut it. Outside of people on this board most "fans" don't know a thing about Chris Obekpa or Marco Bourgault. Make the tournament two years in a row, and all of a sudden going to a basketball game is the "in" thing. But just because us die-hards see reason for optimism (albeit cautious optimism for some) that still doesn't mean the students will be whipped into a frenzy. Consistent success builds that.
Whenever we do this debate over student participation or attendance, it always comes down to a confluence of factors. Like I said, combine all the comments on here, and collectively that's what makes a program great.
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You want students to come? Bring in the right acts. If I'm not mistaken st johns has a rule that if a music artist had been arrested then they will not perform at the school.
Really ? We're screwed when the best we can hope for is a Celine Dion midnight madness
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Shucks, I was all set to go until Poison said it is not for adults and I would be weird if I went. Oh well, another night homebound. :(
You should go. Maybe you'll win a fee year of college with a half court shot.
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Shucks, I was all set to go until Poison said it is not for adults and I would be weird if I went. Oh well, another night homebound. :(
You should go. Maybe you'll win a fee year of college with a half court shot.
Would have to be a year of post doctorate wiseacre! :)
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Hey KOB...did the performer have to be arrested or convicted? Sounds like the old line from Stripes...
"Have you boys ever beeb convicted of any felonies or misdermeanors?"
"Convicted?? Never convicted."
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I'm not sure but they can really use some help. I always hear nova and Kentucky mid night madness is just crazy. No reason why st.johns can't be the same. Maybe the alumni give more or maybe they have a bigger student union. But st.johns midnight madness could be waaaayyyyy better
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I don't really follow the midnight madness but tend to side with Kob. I mean, there is no lack of talent in the NYC area. Getting the right acts would fill the place in a heartbeat. Maybe the acts don't want to do it? Not enough $$. Maybe St. John's needs a higher national basketball profile? I believe we are on a our way, but a winning season or two would help.
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there's nothing wrong with the midnight madnesses the school has held recently...except the loud hip hop "music" sucks a big donkey dong. you may as well bring in strippers. they'll attract a crowd. who says there should be a concert, anyway? if yes, put real talent on the floor.
we have some exciting players coming in. get the frat boys away from their bongs by promoting them on campus. is there still a school newspaper???radio station? promote. promote. promote.
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there's nothing wrong with the midnight madnesses the school has held recently...except the loud hip hop "music" sucks a big donkey dong. you may as well bring in strippers. they'll attract a crowd. who says there should be a concert, anyway? if yes, put real talent on the floor.
we have some exciting players coming in. get the frat boys away from their bongs by promoting them on campus. is there still a school newspaper???radio station? promote. promote. promote.
Agree on all points. Gman will attest to this, but the fraternities and sororities at some schools mandate their presence at such events. No reason there shouldn't be tons of students. I think a better idea is to have indoor/ outdoor campus party. They have done this before by closing off in front of Carnesecca and having tents, music, games, food. Culminate that with the intro of men's and women's teams. Make it all first come and free for students, then first serve for a few bucks a piece for other alums and fans. Need to make it a big event where crux of the event is the students. The rap thing is old. The even needs to be a big party for the students on campus and a reason for students to come out of their dorms and attend.
Heck, when I was at SJU we had a "spring fling" in the lot with beer trucks, and roped off area wi bracelets for students that were of age. It was fun.
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You got the secret FREE BEER.
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I remember Oktoberfest my freshman year (1979). I was 17. We got a plastic mug with the St John's logo and free refills. No one asked for ID. Aaahhhh, the good old days!
Problem, Newsman, is that the hip-hop acts are what is gonna bring the students out. Last year's act ( I don't even remember his name) was lame. A bigger act would pack the place. Rick Ross was scheduled to perform at Memphis' MM last year but he got sick on the plane there and had to be rushed to the hospital.
(Oh yeah, Vado) :'(
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Guys ummmmmmm they don't listen to the beach boys or Barbra Streisand. It's young money and Rihanna
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Break out some tunes from the roaring 20's by the looks of some at Alumni Hall...
with Kob- you might not like the music but that is what the college kids listen to, and more importantly, our players and potential recruits. This should be the easiest part of marketing midnight madness. Some promotion, like Newsie mentioned, of a decent level talent and place will be packed.
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Beer would work too...
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Beer would work too...
Beer and Rihanna
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Beer would work too...
Beer and Rihanna
+1,000,000
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You want students to come? Bring in the right acts. If I'm not mistaken st johns has a rule that if a music artist had been arrested then they will not perform at the school. St johns needs to get with the times. U want ur midnight madness better than Kentucky or nova then grow up and let the acts come in. Lav is doing his part it's time the school does theirs
Jarvis tried the convict thing at St.John's. I don't care for how it turned out.
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there's nothing wrong with the midnight madnesses the school has held recently...except the loud hip hop "music" sucks a big donkey dong. you may as well bring in strippers. they'll attract a crowd. who says there should be a concert, anyway? if yes, put real talent on the floor.
we have some exciting players coming in. get the frat boys away from their bongs by promoting them on campus. is there still a school newspaper???radio station? promote. promote. promote.
Newsman, actually I heard this summer that the Torch has a new faculty adviser ... Newsday sports columnist (and SJU alum) Jim Baumbach.
So there's definitely potential for better sports coverage.
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You want students to come? Bring in the right acts. If I'm not mistaken st johns has a rule that if a music artist had been arrested then they will not perform at the school. St johns needs to get with the times. U want ur midnight madness better than Kentucky or nova then grow up and let the acts come in. Lav is doing his part it's time the school does theirs
Jarvis tried the convict thing at St.John's. I don't care for how it turned out.
Jarvis back then did kinda look like Suge Knight....
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so is anyone besides a bunch of toothless seniors attending this event?
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there's nothing wrong with the midnight madnesses the school has held recently...except the loud hip hop "music" sucks a big donkey dong. you may as well bring in strippers. they'll attract a crowd. who says there should be a concert, anyway? if yes, put real talent on the floor.
we have some exciting players coming in. get the frat boys away from their bongs by promoting them on campus. is there still a school newspaper???radio station? promote. promote. promote.
Agree on all points. Gman will attest to this, but the fraternities and sororities at some schools mandate their presence at such events. No reason there shouldn't be tons of students. I think a better idea is to have indoor/ outdoor campus party. They have done this before by closing off in front of Carnesecca and having tents, music, games, food. Culminate that with the intro of men's and women's teams. Make it all first come and free for students, then first serve for a few bucks a piece for other alums and fans. Need to make it a big event where crux of the event is the students. The rap thing is old. The even needs to be a big party for the students on campus and a reason for students to come out of their dorms and attend.
Heck, when I was at SJU we had a "spring fling" in the lot with beer trucks, and roped off area wi bracelets for students that were of age. It was fun.
A fall festival with mm being the night cap would be great. Do a soccer game. Have some junk food stakes and games. Then have Lavin and co rock Tue place at night. Make it a school spirit day and not just bball.
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so is anyone besides a bunch of toothless seniors attending this event?
It depends....will they have bingo at halftime?
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there's nothing wrong with the midnight madnesses the school has held recently...except the loud hip hop "music" sucks a big donkey dong. you may as well bring in strippers. they'll attract a crowd. who says there should be a concert, anyway? if yes, put real talent on the floor.
we have some exciting players coming in. get the frat boys away from their bongs by promoting them on campus. is there still a school newspaper???radio station? promote. promote. promote.
Agree on all points. Gman will attest to this, but the fraternities and sororities at some schools mandate their presence at such events. No reason there shouldn't be tons of students. I think a better idea is to have indoor/ outdoor campus party. They have done this before by closing off in front of Carnesecca and having tents, music, games, food. Culminate that with the intro of men's and women's teams. Make it all first come and free for students, then first serve for a few bucks a piece for other alums and fans. Need to make it a big event where crux of the event is the students. The rap thing is old. The even needs to be a big party for the students on campus and a reason for students to come out of their dorms and attend.
Heck, when I was at SJU we had a "spring fling" in the lot with beer trucks, and roped off area wi bracelets for students that were of age. It was fun.
A fall festival with mm being the night cap would be great. Do a soccer game. Have some junk food stakes and games. Then have Lavin and co rock Tue place at night. Make it a school spirit day and not just bball.
That's what it should be. Fall Fling type of event where the entire campus wants to be there. They don't even need to drag out the event indoors with tons of announcers etc. make it about the students, sports and school.
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so is anyone besides a bunch of toothless seniors attending this event?
It depends....will they have bingo at halftime?
if it's all students, they'll have chutes and ladders instead.
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I'll be there!!! Very excited for this.
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Any recruits known to be in attendance for this?
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If I'm not mistaken, I heard Wainright was coming? And to jump in the discussion here, there is no doubt that midnight madness is for current students and not the 45+ crowd. Obviously the more the merrier from all fans, alumni, and students, but let's be clear that the emphasis is on the students, not the party like it's 1975 crowd. By the way, what kind of music did you guys think would be played? Basketball and hip hop are attached at the hip and you are in Queens! Can you imagine Billy Joel music in the background :2funny:?
With that said, we should get as MANY people as possible to go! Whether you are 100 and on life support, middle aged alumni, or current students, go go go! By the way, does anyone know if there will be free giveaways and if you can come later than 7?
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If I'm not mistaken, I heard Wainright was coming? And to jump in the discussion here, there is no doubt that midnight madness is for current students and not the 45+ crowd. Obviously the more the merrier from all fans, alumni, and students, but let's be clear that the emphasis is on the students, not the party like it's 1975 crowd. By the way, what kind of music did you guys think would be played? Basketball and hip hop are attached at the hip and you are in Queens! Can you imagine Billy Joel music in the background :2funny:?
With that said, we should get as MANY people as possible to go! Whether you are 100 and on life support, middle aged alumni, or current students, go go go! By the way, does anyone know if there will be free giveaways and if you can come later than 7?
Wainright is coming after Midnight Madness.
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There are two rumors going around.
1) There will be a mystery visitor and
2) It won't be a mystery visitor but rather Baldi dressed up as Norvel Pelle.
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If I'm not mistaken, I heard Wainright was coming? And to jump in the discussion here, there is no doubt that midnight madness is for current students and not the 45+ crowd. Obviously the more the merrier from all fans, alumni, and students, but let's be clear that the emphasis is on the students, not the party like it's 1975 crowd. By the way, what kind of music did you guys think would be played? Basketball and hip hop are attached at the hip and you are in Queens! Can you imagine Billy Joel music in the background :2funny:?
With that said, we should get as MANY people as possible to go! Whether you are 100 and on life support, middle aged alumni, or current students, go go go! By the way, does anyone know if there will be free giveaways and if you can come later than 7?
Sounds great. Would like nothing more then to see 7500 students battling for the 5500 or so available seats so us old fogeys get turned away. Make it happen.
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If I'm not mistaken, I heard Wainright was coming? And to jump in the discussion here, there is no doubt that midnight madness is for current students and not the 45+ crowd. Obviously the more the merrier from all fans, alumni, and students, but let's be clear that the emphasis is on the students, not the party like it's 1975 crowd. By the way, what kind of music did you guys think would be played? Basketball and hip hop are attached at the hip and you are in Queens! Can you imagine Billy Joel music in the background :2funny:?
With that said, we should get as MANY people as possible to go! Whether you are 100 and on life support, middle aged alumni, or current students, go go go! By the way, does anyone know if there will be free giveaways and if you can come later than 7?
Gee, thanks for the tepid invitation. Hope there are no death panels for us over 45 crowd. :crazy2:
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St. John's student here. There is a good amount of student interest about they event, but it also comes down to the school. You have student groups that receive funding and should focus their efforts on this, but neglect it. As has been previously stated, there should a full day of events prior to Tip-Off. There is a "stormfest" during the first week of school that would be a lot more exciting if held on Oct. 12.
Others are doing what they can. For those attending, WSJU (the student radio station) will be doing a live broadcast from 5-7pm outside Carnesecca on the evening of Oct. 12. So, right there, there will be more going on than in the past. There will be giveaways and interviews as well.
Lastly, regarding the beer thing, I wish it were still how you all say it was regarding the bar on and events. Now, if you get caught with a beer on campus (21 or not), you may as well be a felon.
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St. John's student here. There is a good amount of student interest about they event, but it also comes down to the school. You have student groups that receive funding and should focus their efforts on this, but neglect it. As has been previously stated, there should a full day of events prior to Tip-Off. There is a "stormfest" during the first week of school that would be a lot more exciting if held on Oct. 12.
Others are doing what they can. For those attending, WSJU (the student radio station) will be doing a live broadcast from 5-7pm outside Carnesecca on the evening of Oct. 12. So, right there, there will be more going on than in the past. There will be giveaways and interviews as well.
Lastly, regarding the beer thing, I wish it were still how you all say it was regarding the bar on and events. Now, if you get caught with a beer on campus (21 or not), you may as well be a felon.
I know the beer isn't coming back. Definitely should move Storm Fest to coincide wi midnight madness. Make it a campus party. Maybe even in the future, schedule a soccer game that afternoon and make it a sort of homecoming. No better time. Early October is great in NY most of the time.
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Are there going to be free giveaways? This is crucial to attendance. If you really want to bring all the students out, give free custom "Midnight Madness 2012" sweatshirts to the first 5,000 or whatever. Make them look cool. Maybe in addition to that give out SJ banners and schedule magnets. We have to start getting bigger names for concerts as well. Bring in Nas (Long Island City, Queens native) and others of his stature...he has a ton of pride for his stomping grounds and I'm sure something could be worked out. The problem is that we are signing acts who are one hit wonders like Chiddy Bang and "hype men" like Vado. We need a legend. Or even J Cole...he is getting huge plus he is a SJ alumni.
Another idea for giveaways could be giving out a SJ tote bag filled with a rolled up free SJ tee shirt or replica jersey, a poster, a schedule, and maybe a mini basketball. The more products with your school's name out there, the more pride there is. When you wear it outside of campus people take notice of SJ.
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Think they should give 666 Park Ave Season 1 DVD to all them kids.
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Think they should give 666 Park Ave Season 1 DVD to all them kids.
my girlfriend can be seen in some of the episodes of that show this year. She's worked on it 5 or 6 times. Lobby scenes of the building. She plays one of the building staff
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Think they should give 666 Park Ave Season 1 DVD to all them kids.
my girlfriend can be seen in some of the episodes of that show this year. She's worked on it 5 or 6 times. Lobby scenes of the building. She plays one of the building staff
Like I say....
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Anybody commit on coming to our midnight madness ?
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Anybody commit on coming to our midnight madness ?
Hubbard only name I saw.
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Anybody commit on coming to our midnight madness ?
I should be there.. I unfortunately have no eligibility left otherwise i would commit on the spot.
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I heard Jermaine Lawrence may be there.
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I heard Jermaine Lawrence may be there.
Yup. Both Zach and Kline are reporting he is coming to SJU that night.
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Anybody commit on coming to our midnight madness ?
I should be there.. I unfortunately have no eligibility left otherwise i would commit on the spot.
you and mattera lost your eligibility during your dribble for the cure photo op on redstormsports.com :)
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LOL i gotta check that out.
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Is there any t.v. coverage for this event? Can't make the 8 hour round trip this week. But I'll be making as many as I can once the season starts.
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for those that've been wanting to make MM bigger than just the event, the school has planned week long activities:
I Heart STJ
October 9th: 12:00 PM
Taffner Fieldhouse
ALFSA Hosts F&S Night
October 9th: 07:00PM
Taffner Fieldhouse
Casino Night
October 10th
08:00 PM
Taffner Fieldhouse
San Gennaro Festival
October 11th 12:30 PM
DAC Plaza
DAC After Dark
October 11th
08:00 PM
D'Angelo Center
Residence Life Talent Show
October 11th 08:30 PM
Marillac Auditorium
Volleyball Game & Redzone BBQ
October 12th 03:00 PM
Carnesecca Arena
Red Storm Tip Off
October 12th 07:00 PM
Carnesecca Arena
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Zach is a real pro!
“@NYPost_Brazille: Covering St. John's Midnight Madness Friday. #pumped #stjbb”
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sounds like home coming week awesome!
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Really hope the Yanks/O's don't end up going 5 games. Would ruin me getting to see Chiddy Bang....and my good friend Amir.
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So, no free giveaways? No wonder no one shows up.
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So, no free giveaways? No wonder no one shows up.
Chiddy Bang mix-tapes
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So, no free giveaways? No wonder no one shows up.
Everyone in attendance will receive a SJ branded metal detector.
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Seriously if there are no free giveaways I will know 100% why the place isn't filled to capacity. The school makes certain things seem like rocket science...making cool t-shirts students will wear around, giving away free shirts or replica jersey shirts at midnight madness, changing up the jersey design to be more flashy, etc.
Why do you think Costco is so successful? Free food! Why do you think pro teams have giveaways almost every game? To put people in seats and get them there early! Again...not rocket science people...give away free shirts or shirts with "St. John's" and "11" under it with "11" and "Harrison" on the back. Simple, creative, and something kids would wear.
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Seriously if there are no free giveaways I will know 100% why the place isn't filled to capacity. The school makes certain things seem like rocket science...making cool t-shirts students will wear around, giving away free shirts or replica jersey shirts at midnight madness, changing up the jersey design to be more flashy, etc.
Why do you think Costco is so successful? Free food! Why do you think pro teams have giveaways almost every game? To put people in seats and get them there early! Again...not rocket science people...give away free shirts or shirts with "St. John's" and "11" under it with "11" and "Harrison" on the back. Simple, creative, and something kids would wear.
I'll be the first to admit my girlfriend and I specifically time our monthly costco runs on the weekends specifically so I can try all the free food samples :)
And it's actually turned us onto some pretty damn good food to buy. As crazy as it might sound they have some sort of garlic mashed potato instant thing that is actually awesome
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your getting to watch some of the best players in the country together for the first time...you need a gold watch?
just enjoy the event. show a little spirit.
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your getting to watch some of the best players in the country together for the first time...you need a gold watch?
just enjoy the event. show a little spirit.
+1
I personally have distaste for the free junk. I go to see the team. Free t-shirts is fun and all but should be an extra, not a selling point.
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your getting to watch some of the best players in the country together for the first time...you need a gold watch?
just enjoy the event. show a little spirit.
+1
I personally have distaste for the free junk. I go to see the team. Free t-shirts is fun and all but should be an extra, not a selling point.
Everyone wants things for free its amazing. To see fans (young and old) get the loudest for a cheap ass t shirt being thrown in the stands is pathetic on so many levels.
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your getting to watch some of the best players in the country together for the first time...you need a gold watch?
just enjoy the event. show a little spirit.
+1
I personally have distaste for the free junk. I go to see the team. Free t-shirts is fun and all but should be an extra, not a selling point.
Everyone wants things for free its amazing. To see fans (young and old) get the loudest for a cheap ass t shirt being thrown in the stands is pathetic on so many levels.
and watching those air cannons shoot shirts and knock people down is more fun anyway
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your getting to watch some of the best players in the country together for the first time...you need a gold watch?
just enjoy the event. show a little spirit.
For big fans like all of us, we would show up anyway. For the overwhelming majority of SJ students, spirit is not enough to get them up and out of their dorms. I would bet my life that they would have a much better turnout if they made say 5,000 Harrison jersey shirts to giveaway for free. Stop thinking of the principle for going, and start thinking pure numbers. Our site is the minority that actually wants to see the team. Others attend things like these just because their friends are going, the free concert, or to get free stuff.
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Anyone on here planning on holding court at the Sly Foxx before the event?? I'll likely be there. Very VERY excited for this.
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“@QSTJHoops: Red Storm Tip-Off marks season's beginning; recruiting notes #stjbb http://t.co/KNGZEGyk (http://t.co/KNGZEGyk)”
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but it's on the espn3 schedule for those who can't attend.
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“@AdamZagoria: Jermaine Lawrence confirmed for #stjbb Midnight Madness. Isaiah Whithead & Kadeem Carrington not confirmed.”
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“@AdamZagoria: Jermaine Lawrence confirmed for #stjbb Midnight Madness. Isaiah Whithead & Kadeem Carrington not confirmed.”
Bet they are going to love half of Carnesseca filled up. Talk about getting your juices flowing......
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“@AdamZagoria: Jermaine Lawrence confirmed for #stjbb Midnight Madness. Isaiah Whithead & Kadeem Carrington not confirmed.”
Bet they are going to love half of Carnesseca filled up. Talk about getting your juices flowing......
Doomed or just practicing for the 3k that will attend the Detroit game?
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“@AdamZagoria: Jermaine Lawrence confirmed for #stjbb Midnight Madness. Isaiah Whithead & Kadeem Carrington not confirmed.”
Bet they are going to love half of Carnesseca filled up. Talk about getting your juices flowing......
Didnt more than half fill up last year for only 7 guys?
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“@AdamZagoria: Jermaine Lawrence confirmed for #stjbb Midnight Madness. Isaiah Whithead & Kadeem Carrington not confirmed.”
Bet they are going to love half of Carnesseca filled up. Talk about getting your juices flowing......
Didnt more than half fill up last year for only 7 guys?
Pretty sure one side was blocked off. There might have been some stragglers to the other side but pretty sure it was a one side seating event.
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“@AdamZagoria: Jermaine Lawrence confirmed for #stjbb Midnight Madness. Isaiah Whithead & Kadeem Carrington not confirmed.”
Bet they are going to love half of Carnesseca filled up. Talk about getting your juices flowing......
Didnt more than half fill up last year for only 7 guys?
Pretty sure one side was blocked off. There might have been some stragglers to the other side but pretty sure it was a one side seating event.
Gotchya. Thats better than leaving it all open and only filling half of it :)
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half the arena is cutoff due to the stage facing in only one direction.
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half the arena is cutoff due to the stage facing in only one direction.
Also poor planning. Massive stage last year for a damn DJ. People are going to watch basketball and hear some music. FOR FREE might I add, so why bother with a big stage.
2 yrs ago they did it the right way. Hope its that way again.
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Are you guys saying this might be a negative for the recruits because other events are superior to ours?
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“@ECoastBias: #stjbb RT @LIlightning: Lightning players Dimenscio Vaughn and DaQuan Washington will be attending St. John's midnight madness”
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@NYPost_Brazille
A few other confirmed visitors for St. John's Friday: Ethan Hubbard, Chris Atkinson, Devonte Green and Tremont Waters. #stjbb
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@NYPost_Brazille
A few other confirmed visitors for St. John's Friday: Ethan Hubbard, Chris Atkinson, Devonte Green and Tremont Waters. #stjbb
Really like devonte not so much Hubbard , Chris is ok
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Are you guys saying this might be a negative for the recruits because other events are superior to ours?
Kentucky's is a tad more impressive.
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@NYPost_Brazille
A few other confirmed visitors for St. John's Friday: Ethan Hubbard, Chris Atkinson, Devonte Green and Tremont Waters. #stjbb
And tremont isin 8th grade
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
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Are you guys saying this might be a negative for the recruits because other events are superior to ours?
Its not a negative per se. We HAVE gotten recruits and things haven't really changed. But its funny when you think of Kentucky and Cuse packing out 20-30k and we barely draw 4-5k.
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@NYPost_Brazille
A few other confirmed visitors for St. John's Friday: Ethan Hubbard, Chris Atkinson, Devonte Green and Tremont Waters. #stjbb
Really like devonte not so much Hubbard , Chris is ok
Green and Gibbs families are quite productive! Could field their own teams!
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
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@NYPost_Brazille
A few other confirmed visitors for St. John's Friday: Ethan Hubbard, Chris Atkinson, Devonte Green and Tremont Waters. #stjbb
Really like devonte not so much Hubbard , Chris is ok
Chris loves St john's.. Kid is nice Chileb :)
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
Agreed, but wouldn't you think if that's the case we would have the upper echelon 15 recruits coming? Hubbard is far from elite, and Chris is ok
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"15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads."
I was looking at ESPN today and we were involved with 4 of the top 25 (Briscoe was one and I haven't heard much about him recently). Towns was ranked #1 and Govan was around #15. A couple of good seasons and players going to the league and we will have a monster recruiting coming in 2015.
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
Agreed, but wouldn't you think if that's the case we would have the upper echelon 15 recruits coming? Hubbard is far from elite, and Chris is ok
Midnight Madness has never been a real big tool for us in terms of recruiting. Pelle and Amir didn't come and committed. Most of that class I think was on board prior to MM. Last year we had guys come and verbal but never make it. I don't just get as hung up on who actually shows up. Its the chance for most of these kids to get a free trip in many cases if they are on officials. We can cater to the local kids and keep their coaches and handlers happy.
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
Agreed, but wouldn't you think if that's the case we would have the upper echelon 15 recruits coming? Hubbard is far from elite, and Chris is ok
Man Chilleb you are tough. LOL!!!
Lavin is killing it recruiting wise, is on the final list of 4 legit top 50/40 recruits for 2013 and we are complaining about who he has coming to MM.
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
Agreed, but wouldn't you think if that's the case we would have the upper echelon 15 recruits coming? Hubbard is far from elite, and Chris is ok
Man Chris Chilleb you are tough. LOL!!!
Lavin is killing it recruiting wise, is on the final list of 4 legit top 50/40 recruits for 2013 and we are complaining about who he has coming to MM.
It's all because Jon Severe isn't coming to our MM ;)
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“@Kieran_Lynch: Jermaine Lawrence, Evan Hubbard, Bryce Aiken, Chris Atkinson, Devonte Green Tremont Waters set to attend Tip-Off http://t.co/SPRmAZe8 (http://t.co/SPRmAZe8) #stjbb”
Aiken is a teammate of Lawrence I believe.
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
Agreed, but wouldn't you think if that's the case we would have the upper echelon 15 recruits coming? Hubbard is far from elite, and Chris is ok
Man Chris Chilleb you are tough. LOL!!!
Lavin is killing it recruiting wise, is on the final list of 4 legit top 50/40 recruits for 2013 and we are complaining about who he has coming to MM.
Lav is torching the recruiting trails just thought for so much anticipation / speculation for this year accompanied by the recruiting success I was expecting a bit more. And Chris is good I see him as more of a slasher than facilitator at this point though
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
Agreed, but wouldn't you think if that's the case we would have the upper echelon 15 recruits coming? Hubbard is far from elite, and Chris is ok
Man Chris Chilleb you are tough. LOL!!!
Lavin is killing it recruiting wise, is on the final list of 4 legit top 50/40 recruits for 2013 and we are complaining about who he has coming to MM.
It's all because Jon Severe isn't coming to our MM ;)
Possibly.... ;)
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Hey if we're going with a youthful trend what about ray salnave 2016 guard at cardoza. He's good
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Hey if we're going with a youthful trend what about ray salnave 2016 guard at cardoza. He's good
Invite him, plenty of room on that stage Moose is pissed about. Lol!
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I feel like we're reaching just to get recruits to attend our event , only guy so far coming who has to make a decision in the next 2 years is jermaine
Well we have 4 targets in 13.
Jordan already visited and had a great time.
Lawrence is visiting.
Martin I'm not sure where he's going.
And Ish has us scheduled as his last official later this month.
We don't have many ships in 13 to give and 14 is a bit of a mystery # as well. We know the 14 targets really. 15 is the next BIG class needed. Makes sense to make those inroads.
+1
Agreed, but wouldn't you think if that's the case we would have the upper echelon 15 recruits coming? Hubbard is far from elite, and Chris is ok
Man Chris Chilleb you are tough. LOL!!!
Lavin is killing it recruiting wise, is on the final list of 4 legit top 50/40 recruits for 2013 and we are complaining about who he has coming to MM.
Agreed Fordham. I don't think MM is a big recruiting tool for Lavin either, just a nice event. Some schools rely on it because in some of these schools, there is nothing more than a campus and no other draw. The only thing I take away from this is that Jermaine Lawrence is coming and is still interested. Other than that, our other 3 targets are all in the mix regardless of this event.
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Hey if we're going with a youthful trend what about ray salnave 2016 guard at cardoza. He's good
Invite him, plenty of room on that stage Moose is pissed about. Lol!
Actually having them on stage would be a violation ;)
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For Chilleb
“@NYPost_Brazille: Add Jessie Govan to list of recruits attending St. John's Midnight Madness. #stjbb #collegehoops”
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For Chilleb
“@NYPost_Brazille: Add Jessie Govan to list of recruits attending St. John's Midnight Madness. #stjbb #collegehoops”
Not doomed anymore
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For Chilleb
“@NYPost_Brazille: Add Jessie Govan to list of recruits attending St. John's Midnight Madness. #stjbb #collegehoops”
Not doomed anymore
Like Jessie a lot, not sure if he fits into our uptempo system but is phenomenal in the half court. Midnight madness is officially a success .. Lol
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For Chilleb
“@NYPost_Brazille: Add Jessie Govan to list of recruits attending St. John's Midnight Madness. #stjbb #collegehoops”
Not doomed anymore
Like Jessie a lot, not sure if he fits into our uptempo system but is phenomenal in the half court. Midnight madness is officially a success .. Lol
Lavin found a spot for some big guys at UCLA. I'm sure he'd love a talented one like Govan on board. Big kid.
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@syracusebball: Jermaine Lawrence has listed top 3: Florida, Rutgers, Syracuse in no specific order
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@syracusebball: Jermaine Lawrence has listed top 3: Florida, Rutgers, Syracuse in no specific order
Source????
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@syracusebball: Jermaine Lawrence has listed top 3: Florida, Rutgers, Syracuse in no specific order
Source????
That was about 4 months ago. He is no longer even considering Florida or Rutgers.
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That guy is regurgitating a tweet from NBE from June 15th and applying it to today. Since then Jermaine has listed his final 7 and even mentioned recently taking official visits and neither Florida or Rutgers is on the list.
Tweet from June 15th:
@MattWhitNBE: Jermaine Lawrence says Rutgers is in his top 3 along with Fla and Cuse.
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Thanks for the clarity. Saw the tweet pop up this morning. Mods feel free to delete.
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Thanks for the clarity. Saw the tweet pop up this morning. Mods feel free to delete.
That's OK, someone on twitter should tell that guy that list has long been revised.
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“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB #STJWBB Tip-Off has been selected to air on @ESPN3. One of only eight sites nationally! #STJTVSean #ItStartsNow http://t.co/TVLTzYbp (http://t.co/TVLTzYbp)”
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DLo is a bad ass dude. looks intimidating. has to be the baddest ass dude we've ever had.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564138_339161512847514_907589653_n.jpg)
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DLo is a bad ass dude. looks intimidating. has to be the baddest ass dude we've ever had.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564138_339161512847514_907589653_n.jpg)
Metta World Artest amongst others.
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@syracusebball: Jermaine Lawrence has listed top 3: Florida, Rutgers, Syracuse in no specific order
Um, what?
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In the Bad "A" category, DeLo has a ways to go to catch Kevin Williams (old timers will remember him; always feisty-I loved his style). Also if I remember Jayson went after Friar fans in the seats after a game--no backdown on the boards or off the court by him (which was probably part of the problem). Ronnie was always Ronnie and Ty Grant was no slouch either going amongst the trees.
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“@jeffborzello: Sweet, Chiddy Bang will be at St. John's Midnight Madness tomorrow night. And so will I, I believe.”
“@jeffborzello: Chiddy Bang, Jermaine Lawrence and myself. Quite the power trio (or quartet, I guess).”
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Wings Academy sophomore Mohamed Touray will attend tomorrow's Midnight Madness at St. John's, he said. #collegehoops”
http://d1nation.com/2012/05/17/2015-g-toure-murray-new-york-city-wings-academy-ny/ (http://d1nation.com/2012/05/17/2015-g-toure-murray-new-york-city-wings-academy-ny/)
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Wings Academy sophomore Mohamed Touray will attend tomorrow's Midnight Madness at St. John's, he said. #collegehoops”
http://d1nation.com/2012/05/17/2015-g-toure-murray-new-york-city-wings-academy-ny/ (http://d1nation.com/2012/05/17/2015-g-toure-murray-new-york-city-wings-academy-ny/)
Saw him once last year. Impressed me.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Wings Academy sophomore Mohamed Touray will attend tomorrow's Midnight Madness at St. John's, he said. #collegehoops”
http://d1nation.com/2012/05/17/2015-g-toure-murray-new-york-city-wings-academy-ny/ (http://d1nation.com/2012/05/17/2015-g-toure-murray-new-york-city-wings-academy-ny/)
Saw him once last year. Impressed me.
Wings academy might win the psal chip this year I've seen them twice and there relentless , beat up on st Mary's Jessie and devonte by 30 the other day.
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In the Bad "A" category, DeLo has a ways to go to catch Kevin Williams (old timers will remember him; always feisty-I loved his style). Also if I remember Jayson went after Friar fans in the seats after a game--no backdown on the boards or off the court by him (which was probably part of the problem). Ronnie was always Ronnie and Ty Grant was no slouch either going amongst the trees.
Charles Minland and Matty Brust would kick dlo's butt to the curb.
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for those who have gone in the past - what are the odds that i dont get tix if i show up right around 7? i cant get there much earlier than 630.
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for those who have gone in the past - what are the odds that i dont get tix if i show up right around 7? i cant get there much earlier than 630.
Should be fine.
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
That just proves that MM means nothing when a kid were not even after is coming to our MM haha
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I'm trying to adjust my schedule so I can make it tomorrow. Out of curiosity, is this event typically packed, or are we anticipating it being packed?
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
But in the B seats. ;)
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
That just proves that MM means nothing when a kid were not even after is coming to our MM haha
ok, but in retrospect do we feel that same way when recruits we have our eyes on attend other events over ours or do we feel a bit slighted?
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
But in the B seats. ;)
lav will make his way down there during intermission serenade him for 5 minutes, offer and we will see a commitment before the event is over.. HA! :coolsmiley:
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
That just proves that MM means nothing when a kid were not even after is coming to our MM haha
Exactly!!! fwiw i heard Govan loves us :)
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
That just proves that MM means nothing when a kid were not even after is coming to our MM haha
Exactly!!! fwiw i heard Govan loves us :)
Yup!
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
That just proves that MM means nothing when a kid were not even after is coming to our MM haha
ok, but in retrospect do we feel that same way when recruits we have our eyes on attend other events over ours or do we feel a bit slighted?
I personally don't. I think our buddy Isaiah Lewis attended the past 2 yrs. We know how worthless that is haha.
I'm not alarmed with anyone going elsewhere. Frankly if you live in the area you can come to games, practices, etc... Go away to Kentucky or wherever for the free trip. (If eligible for official visit of course)
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
That just proves that MM means nothing when a kid were not even after is coming to our MM haha
ok, but in retrospect do we feel that same way when recruits we have our eyes on attend other events over ours or do we feel a bit slighted?
I personally don't. I think our buddy Isaiah Lewis attended the past 2 yrs. We know how worthless that is haha.
I'm not alarmed with anyone going elsewhere. Frankly if you live in the area you can come to games, practices, etc... Go away to Kentucky or wherever for the free trip. (If eligible for official visit of course)
Agree! Big part of MM, as you noted before, is throwing a bone or two to local AAU programs. Lavin, IMO, is a pro at cultivating & sustaining relationships.
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no longer worried if a local kid wants to come, Lav will get an equal player or better from outside the metro area (see our current roster)
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Chileb should be happy Jon Severe is coming to midnight madness as well.
That just proves that MM means nothing when a kid were not even after is coming to our MM haha
ok, but in retrospect do we feel that same way when recruits we have our eyes on attend other events over ours or do we feel a bit slighted?
I personally don't. I think our buddy Isaiah Lewis attended the past 2 yrs. We know how worthless that is haha.
I'm not alarmed with anyone going elsewhere. Frankly if you live in the area you can come to games, practices, etc... Go away to Kentucky or wherever for the free trip. (If eligible for official visit of course)
Agree! Big part of MM, as you noted before, is throwing a bone or two to local AAU programs. Lavin, IMO, is a pro at cultivating & sustaining relationships.
Ok fair enough, def agree with building and sustaining relationships. Good call guys
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Moose's favorite guy and a former SJU recruit, two beauts!
“@AdamZagoria: PGs Jevon Thomas and Isaiah Lewis and SG Jerron Wilbut will also visit Seton Hall this weekend, they and their coaches tell @SNYtv”
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Christ the King's Jon Severe, Adonis Delarosa and Andre Walker will be at St. John's Midnight Madness, per their coach. #stjbb”
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Nice summary of attendees inclusive of class, position, height, etc. For Chileb, Severe listed first.
“@ECoastBias: Updated w/ Touray, Walker, Severe, DeLaRosa: Red Storm Tip-Off Guest List - recruiting the future of #stjbb http://t.co/gPspTnA0 (http://t.co/gPspTnA0)”
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Saw Centereach, Brookville, Deer Park, etc. represented...great to see NYC/LI players so interested! I think we are the first choice now for locals as the best of both worlds staying home but being in a great program.
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Tomorrow's WSJU Broadcast outside Carnesecca Arena:
Live show begins at 5pm and ends at 7pm (when doors open)
Hosts:
5:00-5:20 - John Sudolsky and Steve Inman
5:20-5:40 - Kyle Spinner and Anabelle Paul - Discussing the Women's team exclusively
5:40-6:00 - Kieran Lynch and Quinn Rochford
6:00-7:00 - Vince Ruffino and Jon Perez
During the 6:00 hour Gene Keady and DJ Kennedy will join WSJU as guests. There will also be ticket giveaways.
If you won't make it and want to listen in, head to WSJURadio.org to stream the broadcast online.
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Might be a big time recruit coming through tomorrow :)
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Hey happy have you seen the kid ray salnave yet? Freshman guard at Cardozo. If so what's your take?
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Hey happy have you seen the kid ray salnave yet? Freshman guard at Cardozo. If so what's your take?
I haven't yet. But if you say he is good then I'm gonna check him out. I better act fast before he transfers out of Dozo :)
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Hey happy have you seen the kid ray salnave yet? Freshman guard at Cardozo. If so what's your take?
I haven't yet. But if you say he is good then I'm gonna check him out. I better act fast before he transfers out of Dozo :)
Ha! Tell me about it. But the kid is the goods. Reminds me of Chris Hampton 2.0+
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Hey happy have you seen the kid ray salnave yet? Freshman guard at Cardozo. If so what's your take?
I haven't yet. But if you say he is good then I'm gonna check him out. I better act fast before he transfers out of Dozo :)
Ha! Tell me about it. But the kid is the goods. Reminds me of Chris Hampton 2.0+
I will def check him out. I'm really impressed with the talent coming out tomorrow night.
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Hey happy have you seen the kid ray salnave yet? Freshman guard at Cardozo. If so what's your take?
I haven't yet. But if you say he is good then I'm gonna check him out. I better act fast before he transfers out of Dozo :)
Ha! Tell me about it. But the kid is the goods. Reminds me of Chris Hampton 2.0+
I will def check him out. I'm really impressed with the talent coming out tomorrow night.
Really like Jessie and devonte, haven't really seen the other guys play. You?
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Hey happy have you seen the kid ray salnave yet? Freshman guard at Cardozo. If so what's your take?
I haven't yet. But if you say he is good then I'm gonna check him out. I better act fast before he transfers out of Dozo :)
Ha! Tell me about it. But the kid is the goods. Reminds me of Chris Hampton 2.0+
I will def check him out. I'm really impressed with the talent coming out tomorrow night.
Really like Jessie and devonte, haven't really seen the other guys play. You?
I take that back I've seen Chris Atkinson, jermaine, severe and Adonis but besides them
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Hey happy have you seen the kid ray salnave yet? Freshman guard at Cardozo. If so what's your take?
I haven't yet. But if you say he is good then I'm gonna check him out. I better act fast before he transfers out of Dozo :)
Ha! Tell me about it. But the kid is the goods. Reminds me of Chris Hampton 2.0+
I will def check him out. I'm really impressed with the talent coming out tomorrow night.
Really like Jessie and devonte, haven't really seen the other guys play. You?
I take that back I've seen Chris Atkinson, jermaine, severe and Adonis but besides them
I've never seen Dimenso Vaughn. But a friend of mine tonight is raving about him . Gotta check him out as well :)
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Too bad this is going up against the Yankees.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Lincoln's Isaiah Whitehead will be at St. John's Midnight Madness tonight. #stjbb
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@fordladyfalcons: @NYPost_Brazille so will Bishop Fords Mike Toro
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Most kids I can remember being announced in Lavin's tenure at MM.
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SO PSYCHED FOR TONIGHT!!! ST JOHN'S BASKETBALL IS BACK
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@NYPost_Brazille: Lincoln's Isaiah Whitehead will be at St. John's Midnight Madness tonight. #stjbb
I know someone had mentioned that there was NO WAY Whitehead comes here, unless something drastically changed. Is him coming to our MM a good sign or just a PR thing?
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@NYPost_Brazille: Lincoln's Isaiah Whitehead will be at St. John's Midnight Madness tonight. #stjbb
I know someone had mentioned that there was NO WAY Whitehead comes here, unless something drastically changed. Is him coming to our MM a good sign or just a PR thing?
We were and still are very much in it with Whitehead.
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nice recap:
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/where_local_recruits_will_be_for_F2tjsUm5LphNZHteogpiwN (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/where_local_recruits_will_be_for_F2tjsUm5LphNZHteogpiwN)
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nice recap:
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/where_local_recruits_will_be_for_F2tjsUm5LphNZHteogpiwN (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/where_local_recruits_will_be_for_F2tjsUm5LphNZHteogpiwN)
Manhattan coach working hard and successfully in metro area IMO.
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nice recap:
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/where_local_recruits_will_be_for_F2tjsUm5LphNZHteogpiwN (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/where_local_recruits_will_be_for_F2tjsUm5LphNZHteogpiwN)
Reports I've heard are that St. Benedicts Tyler Ennis is also at Syracuse for MM tonight ('Cuse commit). Hope so. Want Rysheed Jordan to be WELL aware there's a HIGHER rated COMMITTED point guard already in Boeheim's pocket for 2013. :)
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Apparently lines real long for tickets for midnight madness with lines over hour before box office opening. A good sign...
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5BiLQCCMAAAuPl.jpg:large (http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5BiLQCCMAAAuPl.jpg:large)
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Anywhere I can watch this online or on TV?
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Anywhere I can watch this online or on TV?
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com)
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based on this picture, looks like the school is expecting both sides to fill up. stage is usually facing one side.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5B7ig7CUAA5epp.jpg:large)
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Smart move
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Johnnies mentioned. Ish at Baylor. Drew backing up the Brinks truck.
“@jeffborzello: Midnight Madness is just hours away. Here's a recruiting preview, with a look at the biggest storylines and visitors: http://t.co/UkjZeJCg (http://t.co/UkjZeJCg)”
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@KieranDarcy: I know there's a little something brewing in the Bronx, but it's also Midnight Madness, and I'll be at St. John's: http://t.co/weIgOL3u (http://t.co/weIgOL3u)
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Getting A nice look at devonte and Jessie pre midnight madness. Putting on a clinic
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Anywhere I can watch this online or on TV?
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com)
i don't see a St. John's one. Unless you mean the general one on ESPNU.
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Getting A nice look at devonte and Jessie pre midnight madness. Putting on a clinic
Did you drive Severe? Lol
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http://nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/espn_digger_lavin_has_st_john_back_FG5xQ552JNYwOnqogYloQI (http://nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/espn_digger_lavin_has_st_john_back_FG5xQ552JNYwOnqogYloQI)
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Steve Lavin described St. John’s as a sleeping giant when he was hired three years ago.
In large part to Lavin’s work developing the Red Storm brand with his “Hammer to Rock” mantra, it isn’t sleeping anymore.
Lavin has made the program relevant on a national scale – from his ability to lure top recruits to getting the Red Storm back to the NCAA Tournament in his first season – and again immensely popular locally.
“Now that St. John’s has tasted it and New York has tasted it, they’re back,” said Digger Phelps, the former Notre Dame coach and current college basketball analyst for ESPN. “Look at where they were four years ago and where they are now. Why? Talent and recruiting and coaching that gets it done -- and big wins.”
“They’ve been waiting for something like this to happen. Lavin came in to the right place at the right time.”
He added: “When the challenge came to him to go to St. John’s, he jumped all over it.”
There is a significant buzz for Friday night's Red Storm Tip-Off, as the program was one of eight schools with its Midnight Madness event nationally broadcast on ESPN3. The event is expected to draw a swarm of top area coaches and players, from highly recruited Queens native Jermaine Lawrence of Pope John Paul XXIII (N.J.) to Lincoln phenom Isaiah Whitehead and many more.
Even after a down second year for Lavin, in which his undermanned and young team went just 13-19 and he was limited to four games on the bench because of prostate cancer surgery, the program is expected to take a major leap forward.
That’s a nod to the fine recruiting work done by Lavin and his staff, notably assistants Rico Hines and Tony Chiles. They brought in an eight-man recruiting class, ranked high nationally, to complement returning contributors Phil Greene, D’Angelo Harrison, Amir Garrett and God’sgift Achiuwa.
“I’ve always said you need to do three things to be successful: recruit, recruit, recruit, and everything falls into place,” Phelps joked. “It comes down to his ability to recruit.”
The newcomers are led by New England Preparatory School Athletic Council AAA Player of the Year and National Prep Championship Tournament MVP JaKarr Sampson of Brewster Academy, shot-blocking dynamo Chris Obekpa of Nigeria via Our Savior New American on Long Island and JUCO transfer Orlando Sanchez of Monroe College -- a trio of forwards who should turn last year’s weakness inside into a great strength.
“The personnel is at a place where we can be on equal footing with our competition,” Lavin said. “Depending on the day, it’s someone different that jumps out.”
Lavin’s health issues actually worked in St. John’s favor as he was on the recruiting trail while his competitors were coaching. The biggest fish was Sampson, a versatile 6-foot-8 forward from Akron, Ohio who was supposed to be in Queens last year but didn’t pass the NCAA Clearinghouse. Lavin beat out Baylor, Kansas, Florida and Providence for Sampson’s services.
This group, which Lavin has said is the deepest he’s ever coached, feels it is primed to open eyes around the country, to dispute the notion they are too young to win.
“Eventually, everyone will see how good we are when the season comes,” said Greene, a talented combo guard who averaged nearly eight points per game last year. “I think we’ve been overlooked. But our play will do the talking.”
zbraziller@nypost.com
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/espn_digger_lavin_has_st_john_back_FG5xQ552JNYwOnqogYloQI#ixzz297ovnmhj (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/espn_digger_lavin_has_st_john_back_FG5xQ552JNYwOnqogYloQI#ixzz297ovnmhj)
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Steve Lavin described St. John’s as a sleeping giant when he was hired three years ago.
In large part to Lavin’s work developing the Red Storm brand with his “Hammer to Rock” mantra, it isn’t sleeping anymore.
Lavin has made the program relevant on a national scale – from his ability to lure top recruits to getting the Red Storm back to the NCAA Tournament in his first season – and again immensely popular locally.
“Now that St. John’s has tasted it and New York has tasted it, they’re back,” said Digger Phelps, the former Notre Dame coach and current college basketball analyst for ESPN. “Look at where they were four years ago and where they are now. Why? Talent and recruiting and coaching that gets it done -- and big wins.”
“They’ve been waiting for something like this to happen. Lavin came in to the right place at the right time.”
He added: “When the challenge came to him to go to St. John’s, he jumped all over it.”
There is a significant buzz for Friday night's Red Storm Tip-Off, as the program was one of eight schools with its Midnight Madness event nationally broadcast on ESPN3. The event is expected to draw a swarm of top area coaches and players, from highly recruited Queens native Jermaine Lawrence of Pope John Paul XXIII (N.J.) to Lincoln phenom Isaiah Whitehead and many more.
Even after a down second year for Lavin, in which his undermanned and young team went just 13-19 and he was limited to four games on the bench because of prostate cancer surgery, the program is expected to take a major leap forward.
That’s a nod to the fine recruiting work done by Lavin and his staff, notably assistants Rico Hines and Tony Chiles. They brought in an eight-man recruiting class, ranked high nationally, to complement returning contributors Phil Greene, D’Angelo Harrison, Amir Garrett and God’sgift Achiuwa.
“I’ve always said you need to do three things to be successful: recruit, recruit, recruit, and everything falls into place,” Phelps joked. “It comes down to his ability to recruit.”
The newcomers are led by New England Preparatory School Athletic Council AAA Player of the Year and National Prep Championship Tournament MVP JaKarr Sampson of Brewster Academy, shot-blocking dynamo Chris Obekpa of Nigeria via Our Savior New American on Long Island and JUCO transfer Orlando Sanchez of Monroe College -- a trio of forwards who should turn last year’s weakness inside into a great strength.
“The personnel is at a place where we can be on equal footing with our competition,” Lavin said. “Depending on the day, it’s someone different that jumps out.”
Lavin’s health issues actually worked in St. John’s favor as he was on the recruiting trail while his competitors were coaching. The biggest fish was Sampson, a versatile 6-foot-8 forward from Akron, Ohio who was supposed to be in Queens last year but didn’t pass the NCAA Clearinghouse. Lavin beat out Baylor, Kansas, Florida and Providence for Sampson’s services.
This group, which Lavin has said is the deepest he’s ever coached, feels it is primed to open eyes around the country, to dispute the notion they are too young to win.
“Eventually, everyone will see how good we are when the season comes,” said Greene, a talented combo guard who averaged nearly eight points per game last year. “I think we’ve been overlooked. But our play will do the talking.”
zbraziller@nypost.com
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/espn_digger_lavin_has_st_john_back_FG5xQ552JNYwOnqogYloQI#ixzz297ovnmhj (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/espn_digger_lavin_has_st_john_back_FG5xQ552JNYwOnqogYloQI#ixzz297ovnmhj)
As if Sir Dom need MORE motivation! "...to complement returning contributors Phil Greene, D’Angelo Harrison, Amir Garrett and God’sgift Achiuwa."
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Anywhere I can watch this online or on TV?
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com)
i don't see a St. John's one. Unless you mean the general one on ESPNU.
When I click on that link I get the Red Storm Midnight Madness. There are other MM's listed as well. The watch ESPN site appears to be rotating through the different shows while you stay on the main page. Go to Basketball/ Upcoming ... it is listed at 7:30
This is on ESPN3..
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Getting A nice look at devonte and Jessie pre midnight madness. Putting on a clinic
Did you drive Severe? Lol
Nah paid for a cab
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Anywhere I can watch this online or on TV?
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com)
i don't see a St. John's one. Unless you mean the general one on ESPNU.
When I click on that link I get the Red Storm Midnight Madness. There are other MM's listed as well. The watch ESPN site appears to be rotating through the different shows while you stay on the main page. Go to Basketball/ Upcoming ... it is listed at 7:30
This is on ESPN3..
Thanks. I see it now, but I can't access it since Cablevision ins't a provider they accept, yet. Thanks anyway. Hope it hits youtube later.
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PACK THE PLACE
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Anywhere I can watch this online or on TV?
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/655658/midnight-madness-st-john-red-storm&addata=2012_watchespn_com)
i don't see a St. John's one. Unless you mean the general one on ESPNU.
When I click on that link I get the Red Storm Midnight Madness. There are other MM's listed as well. The watch ESPN site appears to be rotating through the different shows while you stay on the main page. Go to Basketball/ Upcoming ... it is listed at 7:30
This is on ESPN3..
Thanks. I see it now, but I can't access it since Cablevision ins't a provider they accept, yet. Thanks anyway. Hope it hits youtube later.
Personally I think it is one of those things where you need to be there. So far it's a lot of lame jokes and talking. ... and now bad dancing by the players ... lol.
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Jakarr looks excited to be here
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Crowd looks legit... Good to see
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Lavin looks confident about March 2012... 8)
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Lot of real talent here, even on this prelim look. Obekpa will be a force. He's already blocked 2 treys...lol Without a doubt starting center. Cant shoot over him.
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Lot of real talent here, even on this prelim look. Obekpa will be a force. He's already blocked 2 treys...lol Without a doubt starting center. Cant shoot over him.
It's amazing how we had Godsgift starting for us last year, and with the talent I just saw from the scrimmage alone, he shouldn't even be on the court with these guys.
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thanks for the updates.
remember all the doubters and doomsday theorists this time last year? Lol. dopes
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Christian Jones first dunk was craazzzy. As was sampsons off of sanchez kick/pass thingy!
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What's wrong with Phil Greene? Didn't participate other than intro?
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felt like i just dine at per se.
sent from ichoz phone
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Felix is nice. Going to be a very pleasant surprise.
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What's wrong with Phil Greene? Didn't participate other than intro?
They said he has a sore hip.
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You eat in the Bx. You dine in Manhattan.
But tonight in Queens, hells man you feasted.
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You eat in the Bx. You dine in Manhattan.
But tonight in Queens, hells man you feasted.
+1. How guys like Jones and Balamou were totally overlooked I have no idea. We had two teams out there, both full of talent. Didn't even have Phil Greene and I barely noticed because of our talent. All newcomers were impressive. Bourgault's stroke is money. Obekpa even smoother than i realized. How many PF's can handle Sanchez' athleticism and skill set? Going to be a heck of a year when we start to jell. Don't forget, these kids haven't even really practiced yet.
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In other news, Syracuse's midnight madness was not nearly as successful as a big fight broke out and there was a stabbing in the stands. True story.
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In other news, Syracuse's midnight madness was not nearly as successful as a big fight broke out and there was a stabbing in the stands. True story.
http://www.9wsyr.com/default.aspx (http://www.9wsyr.com/default.aspx)
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while i knew what to expect from guys like JKS, Sanchez, and to some extent Obekpa, which by the way, all surpassed my expectations with freakish athleticsm. Felix was always a huge question mark. I gotta tell you, this kid will push for minutes. He's a freak athlete, had good control with his dribbling, and showed a nice touch during the shooting contest.
i like him. A LOT!
Obekpa will be a defensive force. Kid can and will block shooters.
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in case you missed it, here's the dunk of the year!
http://socialcam.com/v/jKO96aRT?autostart=true&fs=twitter&fsk=k2f1Hs2W (http://socialcam.com/v/jKO96aRT?autostart=true&fs=twitter&fsk=k2f1Hs2W)
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Sir Dom Looked comfortable--didn't have to worry about rebounding; could cheat on D and then off to the races and WOW can he finish!!
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in case you missed it, here's the dunk of the year!
http://socialcam.com/v/jKO96aRT?autostart=true&fs=twitter&fsk=k2f1Hs2W (http://socialcam.com/v/jKO96aRT?autostart=true&fs=twitter&fsk=k2f1Hs2W)
The first of many for ESPN plays of the day. i enjoyed his windmill off a missed shot in the scrimmage
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Lavin looks confident about March 2012... 8)
Why does he have a time machine?
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Lavin looks confident about March 2012... 8)
Why does he have a time machine?
Lol... Typo as usual. 2013
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team is ultra athletic and deep. looks ten deep. bench and starters could play best of 7 and it would be 4-3
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Watched it online and agree with what most people are saying. Guys looked good, Jones and sanchez surprised me the most.
Im pumped for the season, but I continually had to remind myself how little you can put into a early season scrimage. Just for comparison I looked at the thread following the game against Post last year, tell me if any of this sounds familiar: " Gods Gift has tremendous hands", "Phil Greene is really impressiv" "Greene has nba talent" "Harrison shoots a line drive and isn't the shooter he was advertised as" " stith's leadership is a huge asset for this team, he'll be a big contributor".
So while it was very encouraging seeing so much talent on our floor tonight... Im going to remain cautious. Lavs gotta coach this talent up now...
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How was the attendance/turn out?
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Anybody know anything about jermaine being in a sling tonight?
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Anybody know anything about jermaine being in a sling tonight?
Attendance looked impressive on tv... but I wasn't there. Looked to be about what we get for an exhibition game, maybe more.
Chileb, I think its been out there that his wrist never really healed from over the summer. Forget exactly what was wrong but he hurt it back june or July.
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How was the attendance/turn out?
very, very good. at least 3.5k. and 95% students. wish we could get this type of support all yr
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Despite all of the top talent we had on the roster last year, I predicted 13 wins. I did so because I know the value of experience. I think we all need to slow down with the newbies a bit. I expect Polee-like contributions from Sampson (much better on the glass though) and a little less from Obekpa.
I am predicting 23 this year mostly because of the returnees (Branch, Harrison, Greene, Pointer, Garrett and even GG). Lavin also filled three of our biggest holes: shooting, depth, and size. Out of the new guys, I think Sanchez will be the one that really raises this team up the most. He's not a rockstar, but he is just what this team needed down low.
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Anybody know anything about jermaine being in a sling tonight?
Attendance looked impressive on tv... but I wasn't there. Looked to be about what we get for an exhibition game, maybe more.
Chileb, I think its been out there that his wrist never really healed from over the summer. Forget exactly what was wrong but he hurt it back june or July.
I know that but now I'm thinking the injury might have been a bit worse than has been reported. Only because I've saw him about 3 weeks ago and he had nothing on the hand. Possibly a minor procedure that hasn't been publicized? Hopefully if it is its nothing serious.
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Anybody know anything about jermaine being in a sling tonight?
Attendance looked impressive on tv... but I wasn't there. Looked to be about what we get for an exhibition game, maybe more.
Chileb, I think its been out there that his wrist never really healed from over the summer. Forget exactly what was wrong but he hurt it back june or July.
I know that but now I'm thinking the injury might have been a bit worse than has been reported. Only because I've saw him about 3 weeks ago and he had nothing on the hand. Possibly a minor procedure that hasn't been publicized? Hopefully if it is its nothing serious.
Paultzman said a few weeks ago that he was headed to see a hand specialist, so you could be right. Maybe he had a small procedure, like you say lets hope for his sake its nothing serious.
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Excellent crowd tonight. Believe it was the biggest of our Midnight Madness'. And thats WITH Yankees game 5 competing with it. Was really impressed at how hard the guys defended during the scrimmage. Very little came easy offensively which is rare to see in a midnight madness scrimmage. Obekpa's defensive presence looks like it'll carry over relatively seamlessly from HS to college, as he blocked two 3s and also caused a few alterations to other teams offense including a funny moment in which Jamal Branch drove the lane, as about to take a floater, looked up and saw Obekpa and kicked it out. Fans that hadn't ever watched the recruits play (95% of them) were really impressed with Felix's jumping ability and I think that took people by surprise. Really liked Jamal Branch's communication skills as he was talking A LOT as he was playing point. Guys look hyped and ready. So am I. Very excited for first game to get here.
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I was in the student section. It was about as packed as it could be. You really couldn't ask for a bigger crowd. The hype is definitely there...the St. John's posters were gone within minutes and there were a ton of them, students waited for hours outside in line, and you could sense that we know this is a special group. While I doubt they will actually make the tourney this year (still young), I definitely think we will improve our regular season record and knock off our share of big boys. Look for the Cuse upset considering they lost Waiters and Melo. It's possible with this group.
I truly hope this type of crowd carries over in ratio to MSG. The students sections were packed full...we need the public to be excited too once we get in MSG. Getting a huge crowd at MSG with this talented a team will absolutely lead to huge upsets.
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Excellent crowd tonight. Believe it was the biggest of our Midnight Madness'. And thats WITH Yankees game 5 competing with it. Was really impressed at how hard the guys defended during the scrimmage. Very little came easy offensively which is rare to see in a midnight madness scrimmage. Obekpa's defensive presence looks like it'll carry over relatively seamlessly from HS to college, as he blocked two 3s and also caused a few alterations to other teams offense including a funny moment in which Jamal Branch drove the lane, as about to take a floater, looked up and saw Obekpa and kicked it out. Fans that hadn't ever watched the recruits play (95% of them) were really impressed with Felix's jumping ability and I think that took people by surprise. Really liked Jamal Branch's communication skills as he was talking A LOT as he was playing point. Guys look hyped and ready. So am I. Very excited for first game to get here.
I know they said it was the largest crowd ever for the event, but I was wondering if it's another lie just like when colleges bring in new freshmen classes and tell them they are the most intelligent and gifted group in their history...every year lol. But it wouldn't shock me if it was.
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This is the 3rd year I've gone ( since they move it out of Taffner) and this was a much bigger crowd that the last two years. There was also a greater sense of excitement n the part of students. The school did a good job with having events preceding the Tip Off and getting students to turn out. Hopefully, they continue to attend the games.
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http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/red_storm_tip_off_draws_big_crowd_2GhvosxcnqX3sdX1xNJqUI (http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/red_storm_tip_off_draws_big_crowd_2GhvosxcnqX3sdX1xNJqUI)
Corrected link
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http://m.nypost.com/;s=hYVEWaJxCZnca4T1IBzzd06/f/mobile/news/local/choke_artist_defense_my9EOoIu4sl7Dghe3cHwzJ (http://m.nypost.com/;s=hYVEWaJxCZnca4T1IBzzd06/f/mobile/news/local/choke_artist_defense_my9EOoIu4sl7Dghe3cHwzJ)
What does this have to do with anything.?
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Excellent crowd tonight. Believe it was the biggest of our Midnight Madness'. And thats WITH Yankees game 5 competing with it. Was really impressed at how hard the guys defended during the scrimmage. Very little came easy offensively which is rare to see in a midnight madness scrimmage. Obekpa's defensive presence looks like it'll carry over relatively seamlessly from HS to college, as he blocked two 3s and also caused a few alterations to other teams offense including a
funny moment in which Jamal Branch drove the lane, as about to take a floater, looked up and saw Obekpa and kicked it out. Fans that hadn't ever watched the recruits play (95% of them) were really impressed with Felix's jumping ability and I think that took people by surprise. Really liked Jamal Branch's communication skills as he was talking A LOT as he was playing point. Guys look hyped and ready. So am I. Very excited for first game to get here.
I know they said it was the largest crowd ever for the event, but I was wondering if it's another lie just like when colleges bring in new freshmen classes and tell them they are the most intelligent and gifted group in their history...every year lol. But it wouldn't shock me if it was.
Sold out in 94, and it was done right.
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http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/red_storm_tip_off_draws_big_crowd_2GhvosxcnqX3sdX1xNJqUI (http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/red_storm_tip_off_draws_big_crowd_2GhvosxcnqX3sdX1xNJqUI)
I think he meant to post this link
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Sorry wrong link. Braziller has a write on out MM in the post. NYpost.com and go to sports.
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http://espn.go.com/new-york/ncb/story/_/id/8497124/steve-lavin-st-john-red-storm-coach-returns-red-storm-tip-event (http://espn.go.com/new-york/ncb/story/_/id/8497124/steve-lavin-st-john-red-storm-coach-returns-red-storm-tip-event)
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Just wanna say how emotional is got when Coach Lavs was introduce. Got choked up a bit specially rememberin where he was this time last year.
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Yo is there an archive of this online? Like a replay?
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repost from elsewhere...
a few quick observations:
nice crowd...the best i've seen at these events. and remember, the yankees were playing for their lives!
crowd noise? who can tell? the "music" was LOUD...and i still go to rock concerts.
i know it was a scrimmage, but i expected ole defense and what i saw was mid season big east quality hard nosed play.
some of you may not want to make a big deal about it...but obekpa's shot blocking was eye opening!!! he blocked two potential three pointers. remember last year when were were schooled out there? it's not happening this year. no way.
bourgout's three point range was all that was promised. he hit the two shots he took from the corner after obekpa threw the first back in his face.
sanchez can really run the floor and will be a big plus this year.
jakarr looked spectacular at times. when he's coached to play within the game and not to show up on the espn highlight reel he'll be an nba'er. at this point, he thinks highlight reel first.
i don't know how, but amir's game looks more solid than last year. the same with sir dominick. the guard play from d'lo and branch was ordinary.
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Sir Dom Looked comfortable--didn't have to worry about rebounding; could cheat on D and then off to the races and WOW can he finish!!
sanchez with a great soccer move to set up the dunk...what coordination!!
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FWIW, Whitehead a no show. No "doomed" comments Mr. Moose!
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Great pub!! Kieran and Zach cover us nicely.
“@KieranDarcy: My story from last night's Midnight Madness event at St. John's, and the return of Steve Lavin: http://t.co/g26IUKVR (http://t.co/g26IUKVR) #stjbb”
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Yo is there an archive of this online? Like a replay?
You need access to espn3 through your cable company Internet provider
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index?rb=true&watchsrc=true&device=ios&#type/replay/ (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index?rb=true&watchsrc=true&device=ios&#type/replay/)
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"There's one thing that I know for a fact. We're going to make the NCAA Tournament." D'Angelo Harrison
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2012/10/13/3497442/d-angelo-harrison-maturity-leader-expectations-steve-lavin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2012/10/13/3497442/d-angelo-harrison-maturity-leader-expectations-steve-lavin)
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Best thing learned from mm is that Chris O is truly a shot blocker deluxe. Nice crowd but unfortunately the school once again does not run things properly. Twice during the week I called ticket office with questions about mm and was advised to get there early because school did not want everyone getting there at the same time at the last minute. So what do they do: they have everyone line up outside and for an event advertised to start at 7pm they make us wait on line outside and don't open the doors to let us in until 7pm. At least they had the sense not to start the event until everyone was slowly let in.
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Finally able to see the ESPN3 replay.
Surprises (for me), in no particular order:
Sir Dom looking far more confident on the offensive end than last year, and Sir DOMINANT at the defensive nd...
How quickly Amir has gotten back into "hoops mode"...also, appeared more mature than last year...
Chrisian Jones. First score of the scrimage was a no hesitation midrange jumper swished by Jones - wasn't expecting taht. Obviously watched him closely, trying to see WHAT it was that allowed him to be totally ignored in recruiting, even playing at a prominant school like IMG, where recruiters were certainly watching his ranked teammates. STILL have no clue. I had assumed that his measurements were "fudged" - that the 6'7 230 lb listing would turn out to be like 6'4 or so. But the kid's size is legit. Then I thought, well he must be slow or clumsy - but watching him on the breaks, he seemed to keep up with proven thorobreds like Dom and Amir, and his footwork in the paint, both on O and D seemed more than solid. There certainly seems no doubt about his hops. His hands appeard strong on the boards, and didn't see him fumbling any passes or catches. Even watched him close during the intros - to see how he interacted with his teammates (looking for signs of an attitude issue) - but seemed smiling, personable and popular with tje other guys. So I have no clue - except that I think he will be a significant contributor off the bench for us this year, and maybe MUCH more in the following years.
Obekpa - HAS to play 20+ minutes a game . Just HAS to. Game changer even if he never scores a point - but was pleasantly surprised that he DIDN'T appear lost at all on the offensive end. Showed decent hands catching, passed out of the post a couple times very efficiently. But his defensive speed and quickness is just amazing. Had read last night he blocked 2 three pt attempts, but had assumed they were on defensive switches where he was out on the perimeter defending - didn't realize he came from the freaking post to the corner on "help D" to block Hooper's shot! He's going to be able to control the middle in zone, and be able to hedge out to the line and still get back to defend the post in man.
Sanchez - reminded me of (guess which schools fomrer player?) - UCLA's Tyler Honeycutt, only stonger. Honeycutt's nickname was "the toolbelt" - because he carried every tool you need - quickess, speed, hands, lenght, shooting, shotblocking, passing, dribbling, vision. Couldn't tell from such a short srimmage if he's GREAT at any one thing, but it's obvious he's GOOD at just about everything.
Sampson. Still need to see more of his outside game. But physically, VERY reminicent of the Pre-injury Ed O'Bannon - but with a much mor out-going personality than Ed.
Marco - Did they clone Matt Carroll?
Branch. Again, short scrimmage. But very impressed with his confidence at the point. And he IS a point guard who can score, not a scoring guard trying to play point. Made the right pass almost every atime, drove the ball when when the D gave him that. Got tot he rim pretty easily both times that occurred.
Felix - didn't see enuf to form a strong impression - other than he's obviusly fast and athletic.
Hooper - Pretty much what I remember for him from Mater Dei high school. Not fast, not overly athletic, but a zone breaker, smart player, and a guy want on the floor at the end of the game when the opponents are forced to start fouling......But I think Bourgalt is gonna be the first option for that. But with the transfer year, Marco is only in front of him for 1 season....
D'lo - looked like he was pressing a bit - trying to do too much. Seemed to loosen up and look like himself in the 2nd 6 minutes.
Last - wonder if there's anything to take from N'Diaye getting a couple of minutes run with the scholarship kids during the scrimmage? He's listed as a soph. A google search seems to indicate he was playing for D-2 Chestnut Hill College in Philly as a frosh last year...
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Wingate story on MM in Rivals. Good video also indicated Whitehead did not make it last night:
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1421686 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1421686)
Sitting behind the Red Storm bench, most notably, were top recruits Jermaine Lawrence (who was in an arm brace) and 6'9" sophomore Jessie Govan in addition to others. It was rumored that junior shooting guard Isaiah Whitehead might make an appearance but that would not be the case.
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Nate Blue
S/O to Christian Jones who's going to make alot of D1 coaches look like fools. IMG
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Good stuffin
http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=126831 (http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=126831)
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The picture of Felix dunking is incredible. I'm excited to see his progression over the next few years.
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very impressed with pointer. talk of him running the point. wow. didn't see that coming. i think we're in for a big year.
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very impressed with pointer. talk of him running the point. wow. didn't see that coming. i think we're in for a big year.
Dom was a top recruit and I see him emerging as a multi-faceted pro prospect in the coming years. He has great "tude" and athleticism and unlike T. Baily doesn't need the ball to DOMinate. I think Lavin knows what he's got with him and will encourage him to freewheel on both ends of the court.
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very impressed with pointer. talk of him running the point. wow. didn't see that coming. i think we're in for a big year.
Dom was a top recruit and I see him emerging as a multi-faceted pro prospect in the coming years. He has great "tude" and athleticism and unlike T. Baily doesn't need the ball to DOMinate. I think Lavin knows what he's got with him and will encourage him to freewheel on both ends of the court.
I'm a huge fan of Dom, but I can't even begin to understand why coach was hinting at him running the point, and definitely disagree that he's on a path towards being a pro-prospect. He does seem to have a great attitude, and is extremely athletic, you're right, but those attributes don't make you a pro-prospect from his position. Ball handling and shooting do. Dom didn't show any ability to create offense last year, his game was pretty much: defend well, and score on a breakaway or a defensive breakdown. I mean this as constructive criticism only, not to rag on the guy, but he needs to do more than that this year.
There's potential sure, but I don't see the signs that say he's about to break out. It's more of a hope on our part I think.
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If Dom's dream is the NBA at 6-5? it has got to be in the backcourt. Long, long ago in his senior year Tony Jackson play in the backcourt in a couple of games. Granted the games had been long decided. Only mention this because in not exactly new to tell a player he'll get a opportunity for some time in the backcourt.Particularly when they are in the 6-5 6-4 range.
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very impressed with pointer. talk of him running the point. wow. didn't see that coming. i think we're in for a big year.
Dom was a top recruit and I see him emerging as a multi-faceted pro prospect in the coming years. He has great "tude" and athleticism and unlike T. Baily doesn't need the ball to DOMinate. I think Lavin knows what he's got with him and will encourage him to freewheel on both ends of the court.
I'm a huge fan of Dom, but I can't even begin to understand why coach was hinting at him running the point, and definitely disagree that he's on a path towards being a pro-prospect. He does seem to have a great attitude, and is extremely athletic, you're right, but those attributes don't make you a pro-prospect from his position. Ball handling and shooting do. Dom didn't show any ability to create offense last year, his game was pretty much: defend well, and score on a breakaway or a defensive breakdown. I mean this as constructive criticism only, not to rag on the guy, but he needs to do more than that this year.
There's potential sure, but I don't see the signs that say he's about to break out. It's more of a hope on our part I think.
Honestly, I think his defense alone could land him a spot in the league. There are plenty of defensive specialists in the NBA. Obviously he's still developing, but if he can develop even a just a decent spot up jumper, I think he'll definitely get a shot at the NBA.
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/20569315/with-lavins-return-the-buzz-is-back-at-st-johns (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/20569315/with-lavins-return-the-buzz-is-back-at-st-johns)
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/20569315/with-lavins-return-the-buzz-is-back-at-st-johns (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/20569315/with-lavins-return-the-buzz-is-back-at-st-johns)
If Lavs hopefully stays in great health, he can continue to build up the program to where SJ's is an almost perennial top 5 seed or better in the tourney. The goal is to be a 3 seed or better many years to enhance the chances of breaking through to the FF.
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The story of Jermaine Maybank is all but forgotten?
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youtu.be/2MnjOULrpns?a (http://youtu.be/2MnjOULrpns?a)