6th Man of St. John's Basketball

St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Rocky Mtn Hoo on March 20, 2013, 06:02:18 PM

Title: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Rocky Mtn Hoo on March 20, 2013, 06:02:18 PM
Wahoo fan checking in...looking forward to the 2nd round game.

Obviously we had hoped to be in the NCAA's...especially after the Duke win, but a weak finish and some bad early season OOC losses hurt us and cost us a bid.  We're a relatively young team, but our 2 best players are JR's and we have a SR starter at PG.

PG - Jontel Evans is our SR starter.  Good assist man, and doesn't turn it over much, but no outside game whatsoever.  Whatever points he does score are on penetration, and one of the better on-the-ball defenders in the ACC.  His back-up is FR Teven Jones who has played well at times, and is a much better scorer/shooter than Jontel.  Not nearly as good defensively though, which will cost you minutes when you play for Tony Bennett.

SG - Joe Harris is our All-ACC, all around best player.  Good size (6'6), strong, can get into the lane, and deadly on the perimeter.  He lit up Duke for 36, but has struggled a bit down the stretch.  His backup is FR Taylor Barnette.  Don't give him on inch on the perimeter because he's an excellent 3 point shooter, but much like Jones, limited defense keeps him from getting more minutes.

C - Akil Mitchell is a converted wing, but excellent rebounder, can finish in the lane, and made 3rd team All-ACC.  His improvement between his SO & JR seasons have been off-the-charts.  Didn't play great against Norfolk State despite decent numbers, and is a double-double machine.  FR Mike Tobey comes off the bench, but is a star in the making with an NBA future.  He's only 18 and needs to bulk up, but very advanced offensive game, can hit on the perimeter from 18 feet, and finish with either hand near the basket.  More strength is the only thing keeping him from starting.

SF - Paul Jesperson starts, and is a good shooter, but doesn't score much.  Gets the majority of his PT because of defense.  FR Evan Nolte comes off the bench, and is also a good shooter, but lately has had a tendency to pick up quick/silly fouls.  Neither are super athletic, but Nolte has a much higher ceiling.

PF - We actually go with a small line-up...Justin Anderson isn't a true 4.  By far our best athlete, and was our best player against Norfolk State.  High energy guy who is my personal favorite player...he fills up the stat sheet in a variety of ways.  Not a great perimeter shooter, but good enough to keep the defense honest.  Coming off the bench is SO Darion Atkins...he started and played well the first half of the year, but has struggled with shin injuries the second half of the season.  A great athlete, but only playing spot minutes right now while healing.

That's our personnel overview.  We play great defense (top 5 nationally) but struggle at times on offense.  When the outside shots are dropping, Evans is getting into the lane, and Mitchell/Tobey finishing near the basket, we're very very tough.  When those things don't happen our offense struggles, and the game gets pretty ugly.  We're very tough at home, and most of the games haven't been close, but honestly we're not playing our best basketball right now.

Haven't followed St. John's super close this year...how do you think we'll match up?
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 20, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
We are really athletic, but we have poor basketball instincts. We are great shot blockers, but if you'd like to shoot threes all game have at it. It will feel like a shoot around.

I think you'll win 75-62.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: crgreen on March 20, 2013, 06:11:35 PM
Those looking for "connections" - player Tony Bennett was as starter for Head Coach Gene Keady on the 1991 US National Team.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: MCNPA on March 20, 2013, 06:25:23 PM
SJU is one of the most athletic teams you will play.  We are also a bit raw and don't shoot we'll from the outside.  SJU is the #1 shotblocking team in the nation.  Earning jumpshots inside can be difficult against us at times.  We have athletic wings that can guard lots of player's.  SJU suspended our best offensive player and a 19ppg scorer D'Angelo Harrison for the rest of the season for "attitude" issues, so it takes a very, very potent player out of the mix in this game. 

We will make it ugly and force UVA outside if we can.  I don't know exactly what to expect.  UVA was a solid team from what I have seen, but I don't think much of the ACC schedule, especially this season so I'm not sure how it will go.  When we are pplaying good man defense, we are very tough.  UVA with the edge I think due to location and the fact that UVA should have been an NCAA team and SJU is without our SG who lead the Big East in scoring.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: boo3 on March 20, 2013, 06:29:20 PM
 We are the youngest team in the country.. ;)

 We start all Sophs and Freshman.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: DFF6 on March 20, 2013, 06:34:20 PM
You need to shut down Lipscomb to win.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: redstorm212 on March 20, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
You need to shut down Lipscomb to win.

We're undefeated in games Lipscomb starts.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: crgreen on March 20, 2013, 06:42:51 PM
You need to shut down Lipscomb to win.

We're undefeated in games Lipscomb starts.

David Lipscomb = Sean Farnham :)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Moose on March 20, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
You need to shut down Lipscomb to win.

We're undefeated in games Lipscomb starts.

David Lipscomb = Sean Farnham :)

Heard your boy Farnham last night announcing BYU game.  Said he has never been to MSG.  That's crazy.  Tell him to call Lavs up.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: braintrust on March 20, 2013, 07:45:20 PM
Lipscomb jerseys are now available in the bookstore.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: chronicbucks on March 20, 2013, 07:57:14 PM
best part of David Lipscomb's roster page.

"averaged 8.6 points per game with 5.1 assists in his final high school season"

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/lipscomb_david00.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/lipscomb_david00.html)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: crgreen on March 20, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
best part of David Lipscomb's roster page.

"averaged 8.6 points per game with 5.1 assists in his final high school season"

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/lipscomb_david00.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/lipscomb_david00.html)

Wow!  Averaged more assists than Jamal Branch as a high school senior.     Pretty sure that was your point! :)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 20, 2013, 09:02:53 PM
UVA is going to slow this game up and it's going to be ugly. If it stays in the 50's then they'll win. Also Joe Harris is the real deal from the perimeter and is probably the best shooter Red Storm will match up with this season.

If St. John's can win battle of the boards to get out and run they'll have a chance.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: MCNPA on March 20, 2013, 09:34:03 PM
UVA is going to slow this game up and it's going to be ugly. If it stays in the 50's then they'll win. Also Joe Harris is the real deal from the perimeter and is probably the best shooter Red Storm will match up with this season.

If St. John's can win battle of the boards to get out and run they'll have a chance.

If they try to slow us down, I think they'll lose.  Teams that try that against us usually lose.  Teams that beat us are the ones that push offensive tempo and score big points.  If it they try to keep it in the 50's I think we will be where we want.  Just an opinion.  Their defense is good though.  Key will be to draw plenty of fouls if we can. 
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: mjmaherjr on March 20, 2013, 09:47:11 PM
if we keep the game in the 40's no way we lose
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Moose on March 20, 2013, 09:50:15 PM
If we score more points, no way we lose
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: jr49 on March 20, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
Gatta get it into paint for that. Some day CO gonna score some inside for us, and next game would be nice. We just don't want him the guy getting fouled. Him, JaKarr and Dom can take turns in the paint. JaKarr can really help kicking out quick when the double comes. If we can fool around some in the paint, I really think we can get some put backs and one. Oh well, sounds good.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 20, 2013, 09:52:49 PM
Wahoo fan checking in...looking forward to the 2nd round game.

Haven't followed St. John's super close this year...how do you think we'll match up?

Welcome.

Dont much appreciate yo name up there since this is a family board, but whateva.

Heres the thing. We are St. John's. We aint no Monticello. We aint founded by some johnny-come-lately embodiment of the French Enlightenment complete wit his peeps in the field and by peeps I mean slaves.

We straight up gonna smoke all y'all folks sayin "Hey I'm in a school just as good as the Ivy League!" Except you aint.  You aint, son.

When you say Ralph Sampson, I say: C'mon now.

When you say Bryant Stith, I say: C'mon now!

And when you say Syl, I say: C'MON NOW!!

Peace out.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: MCNPA on March 20, 2013, 10:06:52 PM
Wahoo fan checking in...looking forward to the 2nd round game.

Haven't followed St. John's super close this year...how do you think we'll match up?

Welcome.

Dont much appreciate yo name up there since this is a family board, but whateva.

Heres the thing. We are St. John's. We aint no Monticello. We aint founded by some johnny-come-lately embodiment of the French Enlightenment complete wit his peeps in the field and by peeps I mean slaves.

We straight up gonna smoke all y'all folks sayin "Hey I'm in a school just as good as the Ivy League!" Except you aint.  You aint, son.

When you say Ralph Sampson, I say: C'mon now.

When you say Bryant Stith, I say: C'mon now!

And when you say Syl, I say: C'MON NOW!!

Peace out.

Pwned...
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 20, 2013, 10:13:17 PM
Knock, knock.

Who there?

Junior Burrough

Junior Burrough who?

Exactly.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 20, 2013, 10:16:46 PM
UVA is a very talented team and when they are hot from the perimeter they can beat anyone. If UVA really does play slow, they might be in trouble. SJ is a team that can run with anyone...we thrive on transition points and have one of the most athletic teams in the nation so UVA might get dizzy and have trouble getting set and finding their assignments if they can't run like SJ.

The problem is that we can't shoot if our lives depended on it. Jakarr was money from mid range for a while in the season, but he seems to have cooled off a bit. Our best shooter and all around scorer (Harrison) was suspended and we immediately went 0-4 without him including some ugly blowouts...we just won our 1st game without him against St. Joe's.

Bottom line, if UVA forces us into a shooting match we will get run out of the gym possibly even by 20+. If we get a lot of transition opportunities and UVA turns it over a lot we have a chance. The key will be whether or not UVA allows us in the paint. If we get in the paint and get transition opportunities I really like our chances. Since UVA plays great D though I'm not sure that will happen. Will be interesting to see a more slow-paced outside shooting team (UVA) paired up against a young, athletic, gritty team (SJ).

Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: simplyred on March 20, 2013, 10:23:48 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54

LOL!
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 20, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54

LOL!

Virginia can score. We can't. Their D is very good. We let teams rain 3's on us. They are #21 in the nation in 3PT%, #62 in the nation in FG%. We are #341 in the nation in 3PT%, #258 in FG%. Not sure why you think my prediction is so outlandish given those massive discrepancies.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 20, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
Hi, my name is Pete Gillen. I pretty much founded Xavier bball. I took the hardest job in the BE to within a hair of the Final Four.
And the ONLY place, I couldnt win... UVA.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: simplyred on March 20, 2013, 10:45:59 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54

LOL!

Virginia can score. We can't. Their D is very good. We let teams rain 3's on us. They are #21 in the nation in 3PT%, #62 in the nation in FG%. We are #341 in the nation in 3PT%, #258 in FG%. Not sure why you think my prediction is so outlandish given those massive discrepancies.

You're seriously predicting a 22 point loss?  C'mon!
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 20, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
What, no Willie Dersch?

Yes, this is a family board, and it's a family school minus several scandals over the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 20, 2013, 10:57:26 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54

LOL!

Virginia can score. We can't. Their D is very good. We let teams rain 3's on us. They are #21 in the nation in 3PT%, #62 in the nation in FG%. We are #341 in the nation in 3PT%, #258 in FG%. Not sure why you think my prediction is so outlandish given those massive discrepancies.

You're seriously predicting a 22 point loss?  C'mon!

If we had Harrison it would be much closer. What do you think the score will be? Virginia is a very dangerous team that arguably should have made the NCAA's. They are a #1 seed and have team stats that make us look like a bunch of guys in a YMCA league. The way teams shoot at ease against us is what concerns me...will we really be able to stop them on D? Inside maybe, outside probably not. All we can hope for is an ice cold day for UVA shooting, rejecting them in the paint, and getting lots of transition points.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Gray Chudney on March 20, 2013, 11:00:39 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54

LOL!

Virginia can score. We can't. Their D is very good. We let teams rain 3's on us. They are #21 in the nation in 3PT%, #62 in the nation in FG%. We are #341 in the nation in 3PT%, #258 in FG%. Not sure why you think my prediction is so outlandish given those massive discrepancies.

You're seriously predicting a 22 point loss?  C'mon!

If we had Harrison it would be much closer. What do you think the score will be? Virginia is a very dangerous team that arguably should have made the NCAA's. They are a #1 seed and have team stats that make us look like a bunch of guys in a YMCA league. The way teams shoot at ease against us is what concerns me...will we really be able to stop them on D? Inside maybe, outside probably not. All we can hope for is an ice cold day for UVA shooting, rejecting them in the paint, and getting lots of transition points.
Linda?
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: STJ11Redmen on March 20, 2013, 11:01:35 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54

LOL!

Virginia can score. We can't. Their D is very good. We let teams rain 3's on us. They are #21 in the nation in 3PT%, #62 in the nation in FG%. We are #341 in the nation in 3PT%, #258 in FG%. Not sure why you think my prediction is so outlandish given those massive discrepancies.

You're seriously predicting a 22 point loss?  C'mon!

If we had Harrison it would be much closer. What do you think the score will be? Virginia is a very dangerous team that arguably should have made the NCAA's. They are a #1 seed and have team stats that make us look like a bunch of guys in a YMCA league. The way teams shoot at ease against us is what concerns me...will we really be able to stop them on D? Inside maybe, outside probably not. All we can hope for is an ice cold day for UVA shooting, rejecting them in the paint, and getting lots of transition points.
Linda?
Joe
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Gray Chudney on March 20, 2013, 11:08:23 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but:

Virginia: 76
St. John's: 54

LOL!

Virginia can score. We can't. Their D is very good. We let teams rain 3's on us. They are #21 in the nation in 3PT%, #62 in the nation in FG%. We are #341 in the nation in 3PT%, #258 in FG%. Not sure why you think my prediction is so outlandish given those massive discrepancies.

You're seriously predicting a 22 point loss?  C'mon!

If we had Harrison it would be much closer. What do you think the score will be? Virginia is a very dangerous team that arguably should have made the NCAA's. They are a #1 seed and have team stats that make us look like a bunch of guys in a YMCA league. The way teams shoot at ease against us is what concerns me...will we really be able to stop them on D? Inside maybe, outside probably not. All we can hope for is an ice cold day for UVA shooting, rejecting them in the paint, and getting lots of transition points.
Linda?
Joe
If so, needs to be nipped in the bud before JJ is killed too
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 20, 2013, 11:11:59 PM
Name the ACC school Bobby Gonzalez actually collected a paycheck from:
A. UVA
B. UVA
C. UVA
D. Joe Momma

Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: 0404 on March 20, 2013, 11:19:13 PM
UVA beat:
Duke (1-0)
UNC (1-1)
NC State (1-1)
Maryland (2-0)
Wisconsin (1-0)
Tennessee (1-0)

Lost to Miami by 4 in late February.

Yikes.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 20, 2013, 11:20:35 PM
Name the ACC school Bobby Gonzalez actually collected a paycheck from:
A. UVA
B. UVA
C. UVA
D. Joe Momma



I still think we should have hired Bobby in 04.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 20, 2013, 11:22:04 PM
Name the ACC school Bobby Gonzalez actually collected a paycheck from:
A. UVA
B. UVA
C. UVA
D. Joe Momma



I still think we should have hired Bobby in 04.

Security not as tight at the Queens Center Mall.
Scandal averted.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Rocky Mtn Hoo on March 20, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 20, 2013, 11:23:08 PM
UVA beat:
Duke (1-0)
UNC (1-1)
NC State (1-1)
Maryland (2-0)
Wisconsin (1-0)
Tennessee (1-0)

Lost to Miami by 4 in late February.

Yikes.


Oh yea, well we almost beat Marquette, and we were only down by 5 in Syracuse for a short period of time in the second half.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 20, 2013, 11:27:30 PM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

This St.John's team is unlike our traditional teams. They don't press. That's why they are so hard to watch. Two years ago, an assistant coach (Dunlap) introduced the matchup zone to Steve Lavin. Lavin has fallen in love with it.

We probably don't even know how to press.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: shamsman2 on March 20, 2013, 11:29:15 PM
UVA beat:
Duke (1-0)
UNC (1-1)
NC State (1-1)
Maryland (2-0)
Wisconsin (1-0)
Tennessee (1-0)

Lost to Miami by 4 in late February.

Yikes.


Oh yea, well we almost beat Marquette, and we were only down by 5 in Syracuse for a short period of time in the second half.
you guys are brutal, but got a great laugh this time of night. I don't think Mr. Wahoo got the collegiality he was expecting, but got told the truth, not that he or anyone else would understand it.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Rocky Mtn Hoo on March 20, 2013, 11:31:55 PM
With your athletes, that's surprising.  If you don't press us, Tony will need to send Lavin a "thank you" note after the game...makes it even more likely we can dictate the pace.  We've also got shooters that can make you pay on the zone...4 guys (Harris, Nolte, Jesperson & Barnette) all shoot in the 40% neighborhood from 3.  You also don't want to give Anderson, Jones or Tobey space.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on March 20, 2013, 11:34:45 PM
Watch out for the Phil Greene floater. It's daaaangeerrrousssss.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 20, 2013, 11:35:34 PM
With your athletes, that's surprising.  If you don't press us, Tony will need to send Lavin a "thank you" note after the game...makes it even more likely we can dictate the pace.  We've also got shooters that can make you pay on the zone...4 guys (Harris, Nolte, Jesperson & Barnette) all shoot in the 40% neighborhood from 3.  You also don't want to give Anderson, Jones or Tobey space.

Yea, we play an awful match up zone. Thing w SJ now is that w out our best player, it's hard to know who to key on. Sampson is probably our best player, but some of the younger guys are getting a shot now, like Jones-who has surprised at times.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 20, 2013, 11:36:45 PM
Yo no disrespct to Majestic, but Scientific was better.

In other words, y'all got lost wit the wrong Mapp.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Moose on March 20, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
UVA beat:
Duke (1-0)
UNC (1-1)
NC State (1-1)
Maryland (2-0)
Wisconsin (1-0)
Tennessee (1-0)

Lost to Miami by 4 in late February.

Yikes.


Miami lost to FGCU and we beat them. Can't play connect the dots
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Moose on March 20, 2013, 11:38:17 PM
UVA has brought Choz to a legendary level ;)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on March 20, 2013, 11:39:23 PM
11am Sunday.

These kids are not morning people.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: 0404 on March 20, 2013, 11:41:44 PM
UVA beat:
Duke (1-0)
UNC (1-1)
NC State (1-1)
Maryland (2-0)
Wisconsin (1-0)
Tennessee (1-0)

Lost to Miami by 4 in late February.

Yikes.


Oh yea, well we almost beat Marquette, and we were only down by 5 in Syracuse for a short period of time in the second half.

This post and the Lipscomb one on the first page have me  :2funny:

This forum has been on a roll the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on March 20, 2013, 11:48:34 PM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

This St.John's team is unlike our traditional teams. They don't press. That's why they are so hard to watch. Two years ago, an assistant coach (Dunlap) introduced the matchup zone to Steve Lavin. Lavin has fallen in love with it.

We probably don't even know how to press.

Poison, we pressed for the majority of the game against St Joes.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 20, 2013, 11:55:27 PM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

This St.John's team is unlike our traditional teams. They don't press. That's why they are so hard to watch. Two years ago, an assistant coach (Dunlap) introduced the matchup zone to Steve Lavin. Lavin has fallen in love with it.

We probably don't even know how to press.

Poison, we pressed for the majority of the game against St Joes.

I'm talking full court. Watch what VCU does. They play like men.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on March 21, 2013, 12:00:32 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

This St.John's team is unlike our traditional teams. They don't press. That's why they are so hard to watch. Two years ago, an assistant coach (Dunlap) introduced the matchup zone to Steve Lavin. Lavin has fallen in love with it.

We probably don't even know how to press.

Poison, we pressed for the majority of the game against St Joes.

I'm talking full court. Watch what VCU does. They play like men.

Depaul too? :)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 21, 2013, 12:03:09 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

This St.John's team is unlike our traditional teams. They don't press. That's why they are so hard to watch. Two years ago, an assistant coach (Dunlap) introduced the matchup zone to Steve Lavin. Lavin has fallen in love with it.

We probably don't even know how to press.

Poison, we pressed for the majority of the game against St Joes.

I'm talking full court. Watch what VCU does. They play like men.

Depaul too? :)

I know there are teams that press poorly, but this used to be a program that was famous for its man to man. The match up zone has us in the NIT. I'm happy to be playing, as it's better than the alternative, but if we come back next season w that weak, feminine defense, I'll be pretty annoyed.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 21, 2013, 12:05:07 AM
Rocky, you said "if we can force turnovers"...one of the few things we are clearly good at this year is taking care of the ball. We can't shoot, but we can score in the paint if given some space, we can run in transition, we don't turn it over much, and we defend well generally.

I really, really, really hope our well overdue red hot shooting day comes against UVA. I can't remember the last time we shot 38% or better from behind the arc. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with 3PT stats and perhaps overly so, but we need points badly. 2's keep you in the game, 3's put the other team away.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: survivedc on March 21, 2013, 12:05:28 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

This St.John's team is unlike our traditional teams. They don't press. That's why they are so hard to watch. Two years ago, an assistant coach (Dunlap) introduced the matchup zone to Steve Lavin. Lavin has fallen in love with it.

We probably don't even know how to press.

Poison, we pressed for the majority of the game against St Joes.

I'm talking full court. Watch what VCU does. They play like men.

Depaul too? :)

I know there are teams that press poorly, but this used to be a program that was famous for its man to man. The match up zone has us in the NIT. I'm happy to be playing, as it's better than the alternative, but if we come back next season w that weak, feminine defense, I'll be pretty annoyed.

True dat, if we played Man we would at least be a 3 or 4 seed in the real Tourney
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 21, 2013, 12:06:28 AM
whats the diff between honey boo boo and curtis staples?

one couldn't touch the rim sitting on norman nolan's shoulders. and the other is a little girl.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 21, 2013, 12:09:26 AM
whats the diff between honey boo boo and curtis staples?

one couldn't touch the rim sitting on norman nolan's shoulders. and the other is a little girl.

We coulda used him on St.John's. Derek Brown stopped hitting threes after his Soph year.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on March 21, 2013, 12:35:22 AM
Rocky, you said "if we can force turnovers"...one of the few things we are clearly good at this year is taking care of the ball. We can't shoot, but we can score in the paint if given some space, we can run in transition, we don't turn it over much, and we defend well generally.

I really, really, really hope our well overdue red hot shooting day comes against UVA. I can't remember the last time we shot 38% or better from behind the arc. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with 3PT stats and perhaps overly so, but we need points badly. 2's keep you in the game, 3's put the other team away.

When is a team ever given 'some space' inside the paint?
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Redstormy80 on March 21, 2013, 12:42:14 AM
Rocky, you said "if we can force turnovers"...one of the few things we are clearly good at this year is taking care of the ball. We can't shoot, but we can score in the paint if given some space, we can run in transition, we don't turn it over much, and we defend well generally.

I really, really, really hope our well overdue red hot shooting day comes against UVA. I can't remember the last time we shot 38% or better from behind the arc. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with 3PT stats and perhaps overly so, but we need points badly. 2's keep you in the game, 3's put the other team away.

We shot 43% from 3 against St Joe's....
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 21, 2013, 12:42:33 AM
Rocky, you said "if we can force turnovers"...one of the few things we are clearly good at this year is taking care of the ball. We can't shoot, but we can score in the paint if given some space, we can run in transition, we don't turn it over much, and we defend well generally.

I really, really, really hope our well overdue red hot shooting day comes against UVA. I can't remember the last time we shot 38% or better from behind the arc. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with 3PT stats and perhaps overly so, but we need points badly. 2's keep you in the game, 3's put the other team away.

When is a team ever given 'some space' inside the paint?

Creighton and Wichita State had their fair share of games where their opponents gave them plenty of room for easy layups. Also against SC I believe we got almost everything we wanted in the paint. Doesn't happen much, but it does every once in a blue moon. Not every team can play like G'Town and really suffocate you on D. We also gave San Francisco plenty of breathing room in the paint. I'm not expecting that, I'm just thinking that's one of the ways we can compensate for our total lack of shooting. Sampson, Pointer, Obekpa, Garrett, Branch can all score in the paint. Just not from any range.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 21, 2013, 12:45:19 AM
Rocky, you said "if we can force turnovers"...one of the few things we are clearly good at this year is taking care of the ball. We can't shoot, but we can score in the paint if given some space, we can run in transition, we don't turn it over much, and we defend well generally.

I really, really, really hope our well overdue red hot shooting day comes against UVA. I can't remember the last time we shot 38% or better from behind the arc. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with 3PT stats and perhaps overly so, but we need points badly. 2's keep you in the game, 3's put the other team away.

We shot 43% from 3 against St Joe's....

Way too small a sample size...we went 3/7 as a team. Any team can make 3 in a game...I'm talking about a decent sample size. Some teams attempt 7 threes in 1 half.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: MCNPA on March 21, 2013, 03:04:13 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

Passing isn't our problem.  We rarely turn the ball over except in a few games.  Our big guy has no problem with the double team and neither do our guards.  We have only two problems. Outside shooting and rebounding consistently.  We only got our starting PG back recently which helps but he has been hobbled a bit.  He was also out half the season and just getting comfortable.

We do have the best Rookie forward in the Big East in Jakarr Sampson who can kill with his long jumper when he gets in a zone.  He's also an amazing athlete.  We have the best shotblocker in the country in Chris Obekpa who is improving rapidly on the boards as well.  We also have Sir'Dominic Pointer who is our 6'5" Versatile weapon.  Kid plays every position and is a stat stuffer.  Outside of that we have lots of different pieces who are still feeling their way through. 

If we had our starting SG and best player Harrison, I'd feel real good about the matchup.  Without him, I'm concerned about every matchup.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Choz4Life on March 21, 2013, 07:42:38 AM
Choz: Ill take Turrible Loses for $1000 Alex.

Alex: This school was on the wrong end of the greatest upset in NCAA regular season histry.

Choz: What is UVA?

Alex: Correct!

Choz: They lost to Chaminade!

Alex: correct!

Choz: DIII!

Alex: Correct!

Choz: Wit Ralph Sampson!

Alex: Correct!
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: simplyred on March 21, 2013, 08:19:03 AM
Rocky, you said "if we can force turnovers"...one of the few things we are clearly good at this year is taking care of the ball. We can't shoot, but we can score in the paint if given some space, we can run in transition, we don't turn it over much, and we defend well generally.

I really, really, really hope our well overdue red hot shooting day comes against UVA. I can't remember the last time we shot 38% or better from behind the arc. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with 3PT stats and perhaps overly so, but we need points badly. 2's keep you in the game, 3's put the other team away.

We shot 43% from 3 against St Joe's....

For a minute there, I thought someone was having a "Sybil" moment.  Then I realized it is two different Redstormy's   (Redstormies?)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 21, 2013, 09:12:14 AM
Yo no disrespct to Majestic, but Scientific was better.

In other words, y'all got lost wit the wrong Mapp.

The terrorist's nephew was also pretty good.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Foad on March 21, 2013, 09:27:54 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.


Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: redslope on March 21, 2013, 10:18:44 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.

A classic Foad; had me laughing.  this poor Yahoo is probably forwarding your intel to UVA coaching staff right now.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 21, 2013, 10:19:48 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.

Brilliant.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: simplyred on March 21, 2013, 10:48:44 AM
You guys are terrific.  This site is a shut-in's best friend.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Rocky Mtn Hoo on March 21, 2013, 11:47:57 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.

This is pretty freaking funny  ;D
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: simplyred on March 21, 2013, 01:47:13 PM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.

This is pretty freaking funny  ;D

You've met our resident sage/comedian.

You will also see that we are the most self-loathing fanbase in college basketball.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: qcredman on March 21, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.

This is pretty freaking funny  ;D

You've met our resident sage/comedian.

You will also see that we are the most self-loathing fanbase in college basketball.

Which explains why we loathe one another, the team, the coach, former coaches, the university, the country, the world ....

Lose to us and we'll loathe you as well.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Rocky Mtn Hoo on March 21, 2013, 03:25:41 PM
Which explains why we loathe one another, the team, the coach, former coaches, the university, the country, the world ....


Living in Florida (Rocky Mtn is an old handle from when I lived in Colorado) I've found New Yorkers become much less stressed when they move south.  It's harder to loathe much of anything when surrounded by beaches, palm trees, and 75 degree days in February...except of course the 80 year old New Yorkers going 30 in the passing lane on A1A  ;)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: yankcranker on March 21, 2013, 06:00:49 PM
Which explains why we loathe one another, the team, the coach, former coaches, the university, the country, the world ....


Living in Florida (Rocky Mtn is an old handle from when I lived in Colorado) I've found New Yorkers become much less stressed when they move south.  It's harder to loathe much of anything when surrounded by beaches, palm trees, and 75 degree days in February...except of course the 80 year old New Yorkers going 30 in the passing lane on A1A  ;)

F that.  You're still surrounded by Floridians, and that's worse than everything you mentioned!  Now I moved to SoCal, got it all and a pretty literate bunch of neighbors as well.  ;)
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: ras on March 21, 2013, 06:57:11 PM
When you live in SE FL, you are surrounded by transplanted NYers.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: yankcranker on March 21, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Well within the "Hell's Waiting Room" part of the region you're certainly right about that.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: jr49 on March 21, 2013, 07:39:49 PM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.
Glad ya didn't give away Phil playin his best ball yet. He's almost locked up the starting PG spot for next season.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: carmineabbatiello on March 22, 2013, 12:47:41 AM
Happy hour for Choz?
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: 0404 on March 22, 2013, 08:21:44 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.
Glad ya didn't give away Phil playin his best ball yet. He's almost locked up the starting PG spot for next season.

I'd hope Phil Greene would lock up the Phil Greene spot. As for starting, I don't know about that.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Poison on March 22, 2013, 08:29:07 AM
Have seen a few comments about SJU getting out in transition.  If you check our offensive rebounding numbers, they're near the bottom of the ACC.  Reason being, we send no one to crash the boards...we drop everyone back on defense to prevent transition baskets.  We're very difficult to run on because of this, which is why 19 times out of 20, we'll win the tempo game.  UNC in Chapel Hill has really been the only time this year someone dictated a faster pace on us.

We're vulnerable to the press, but in order to set it up, you have to execute on offense.  Can your big men pass out of the double team in the post?  You'll see alot of Justin Anderson double teaming with Akil when your big man gets the entry pass...if they can pass out of it, you can take advantage.  If they're shaky ball handlers, or passing's not a strength, we'll force them into turnovers.

If your staff thinks like you do SJ will win this game in a walk. For example, in your post you mention "big men," "entry passes," and "execute on offense." We dont really utilize those sorts of mundane strategies and if you guys prepare for them you will have fallen into Lavin's diabolical trap.

On offense we do two things. First, we run the weave. This is intended to make the opposing team fall asleep. Once we are able to induce a coma in the defense our shooting guards break free to launch off balance fall away jumpers that connect at a percentage upwards of 35 percent. Second, our point guard Phil Greene is immune to the effects of centrifical force. Being the superior tactician that he is Lavin plays to Greene's strength by having him dribble around in circles beyond the three point line, causing defenders to get severely dizzy. (This is an off shoot of Pete Newell's motion offense called Pin the Tail on the Donkey.) Once again the idea is to stupify the opposition to free our guards to make plays.

Being that our team is so young they are still learning the intricasies of the offense, such as which end of the donkey the tail is on and how tightly to tie the blindfold. Although our progress is being measured in baby steps we seem to have put it all together, defeating a gritty a10 team with the same sort of determination we showed against BE powerhouses DePaul and South Florida. The team lost its focus slightly while losing 8 out of its last 10, but dont let that fool you. That was D'Angelo Harrison's fault because he rolled his eyes one too many times. He is no longer with the team and we're better off for it, as is evident from the one game winning streak we are riding. Needless to say I fancy our chances Saturday morning. I only hope the game does not conflict with Tennessee Tuxedo, because I loves me some Mister Whoopee.
Glad ya didn't give away Phil playin his best ball yet. He's almost locked up the starting PG spot for next season.

I'd hope Phil Greene would lock up the Phil Greene spot. As for starting, I don't know about that.

How could Greene possibly not start?
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: 0404 on March 22, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
If Harrison and Jakarr come back, I'd start Branch over him.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: ras on March 22, 2013, 09:24:22 AM
If Harrison and Jakarr come back, I'd start Branch over him.
Most posters would. But considering Lavins love affair w Greene, I believe Lavin will start him over Branch. I also think Greene is going to be a good 4 yr player when all is said and done.. Not defending him but hes only a So. and playing injured.                         
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Foad on March 22, 2013, 09:25:27 AM
How could Greene possibly not start?

Maybe we can pay someone to put sugar in his gas tank. Bah dum bum.

Of course he'll start, but hopefully not at PG. 
 
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: ras on March 22, 2013, 09:30:40 AM
How could Greene possibly not start?

Maybe we can pay someone to put sugar in his gas tank. Bah dum bum.

Of course he'll start, but hopefully not at PG.
Are you saying that if DLO comes back Phil will start over him?
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: Foad on March 22, 2013, 09:46:03 AM
Are you saying that if DLO comes back Phil will start over him?

I'd be surprised if DH comes back. I'll be more surprised if PG doesn't start, regardless. He's played 35 minutes a year for two years come hell or 5 for 17 shooting. I don't see how that changes. I don't even have a problem with it, as I assume next year he'll be better next year than this. He's not a PG though and if he's ours next year that's bad.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: RedStormyNight on March 22, 2013, 02:50:26 PM
Are you saying that if DLO comes back Phil will start over him?

I'd be surprised if DH comes back. I'll be more surprised if PG doesn't start, regardless. He's played 35 minutes a year for two years come hell or 5 for 17 shooting. I don't see how that changes. I don't even have a problem with it, as I assume next year he'll be better next year than this. He's not a PG though and if he's ours next year that's bad.

Still don't get why so many people are just assuming DH won't be back. Every indication is that he WILL come back, and there is plenty of evidence for that. There is zero evidence that he may leave.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: boo3 on March 22, 2013, 04:06:02 PM
Are you saying that if DLO comes back Phil will start over him?

I'd be surprised if DH comes back. I'll be more surprised if PG doesn't start, regardless. He's played 35 minutes a year for two years come hell or 5 for 17 shooting. I don't see how that changes. I don't even have a problem with it, as I assume next year he'll be better next year than this. He's not a PG though and if he's ours next year that's bad.

Still don't get why so many people are just assuming DH won't be back. Every indication is that he WILL come back, and there is plenty of evidence for that. There is zero evidence that he may leave.

  There is zero evidence of anything really. Harrison is an emotional kid and no one knows how he will respond to being called out for behavior and being suspended .  The last indication we got from someone who actually speaks to him said that he had not made up his mind.

 There is certainly room for speculation on both sides.  He has to want to come back, buy into whatever Coach demands from him, and then Coach has to accept him back as well as his teammates... 
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: TONYD3 on March 22, 2013, 04:11:51 PM
If I were Harrison I would either go pro ( Europe) or come back. If he tries to play professionally he would probably do ok money wise but little chance of NBA. If he comes back he Walks into a perfect situation. No sitting out a year. We clearly need his scoring. He can take any shot he wants. As a basketball fan I hate seeing players take bad shots. However his bad shots are better then some other guys good shots.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: DFF6 on March 22, 2013, 05:04:20 PM
Are you saying that if DLO comes back Phil will start over him?

I'd be surprised if DH comes back. I'll be more surprised if PG doesn't start, regardless. He's played 35 minutes a year for two years come hell or 5 for 17 shooting. I don't see how that changes. I don't even have a problem with it, as I assume next year he'll be better next year than this. He's not a PG though and if he's ours next year that's bad.

Still don't get why so many people are just assuming DH won't be back. Every indication is that he WILL come back, and there is plenty of evidence for that. There is zero evidence that he may leave.

Lavin has said himself "if" Harrison comes back next year, so even Lavin doesn't know what Harrison will do.
Title: Re: Greetings from the UVa side
Post by: jr49 on March 22, 2013, 09:39:27 PM
If I were Harrison I would either go pro ( Europe) or come back. If he tries to play professionally he would probably do ok money wise but little chance of NBA. If he comes back he Walks into a perfect situation. No sitting out a year. We clearly need his scoring. He can take any shot he wants. As a basketball fan I hate seeing players take bad shots. However his bad shots are better then some other guys good shots.
Tony, team objective is for all our players to take good shots and be reasonably proficient. I don't believe having the go ahead to take bad shots is a reason for Harrison to come back. He will be much better served if Coach teaches him to play sound hoops and take good shots.The main issue on his return is for him to correct the things that precipitated his suspension. It's true that Coach gave Harrison a lot of freedom on what kind of shots he put up, but as team improves around him, he should be more selective, not less on what he throws up. I don't believe Coach ever gave him ok to just throw them up, and I don't think shot selection was the problem. All our guys have the ability to get good, and it would be nice to have Harrison along to help them.