Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time

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Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« on: August 09, 2011, 11:09:03 AM »
.. No love for Bob Zowaluk here, but it's pretty tough to argue with this list.


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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 11:17:29 AM »
Lists is made to be debated.
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kob24

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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 04:08:56 PM »
no burrell?????????? couldnt help myself

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 04:56:50 PM »
no burrell?????????? couldnt help myself
Expect an immediate post from Bobre asking where the F is Sean Evans! :) :) :)

Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 05:20:18 PM »
Nothing happen from 1907 to 1961?

Poison

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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 05:26:15 PM »
Where's Felipe Lopez? He is 3rd all time in points at St.John's.

There must be some mistake.

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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 05:27:27 PM »
Seriously though, if you never saw the player actually play, how can you know how good he was?

Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 05:29:14 PM »
Seriously though, if you never saw the player actually play, how can you know how good he was?
Worked for Jarvis or I guess it didnt really work. lol

Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 05:40:35 PM »
I can't argue with first 4, (Mullin, Berry, Sealy and Jackson)

The 5th spot is where it gets hard if you include Pro Careers, and value to their team I would place Ron Artest and Dick McGuire is a Hall of Famer tied for 5th over Jackson and Dove


Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 05:57:34 PM »
Where's Felipe Lopez? He is 3rd all time in points at St.John's.

There must be some mistake.
playing in the LL World Series lol

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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 07:00:50 PM »
I would clearly go with Chris, Malik and Mark.

The list is for the top St. John's players, so the NBA should not be considered in making selections.  It seems to be based purely on college performances. 

Ron-Ron was a good player for us in his two years, but stat-wise not a top 6 player.

While Bob Z. was before my time, his numbers, particularly being the top career scorer,  stood for about 33 years.  And remember, he only played three years, so he could have had 400-500 more total points.  That should get him in the top 6.

So I have made the late Bob Z. my fourth choice.  I would close with Walter Berry (College Player of the Year) and Mel Davis ( I would have loved to see him play out his senior year.)  Both were here for only two varsity years, but beat out Felipe and Ron-Ron in the key categories. 

Tony Jackson also deserves to make the new Top Seven list.

Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 09:41:08 PM »
I can't argue with first 4, (Mullin, Berry, Sealy and Jackson)

The 5th spot is where it gets hard if you include Pro Careers, and value to their team I would place Ron Artest and Dick McGuire is a Hall of Famer tied for 5th over Jackson and Dove
And we can throw Harry Boykoff SJU first consensus all American under the bus?

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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 12:28:03 AM »
Let's not forget Ronald "The Rocket" Redding. He was a point guard who starred on the 1913-14 Johnnies.
Not many remember him. He played during the single basket era, and before they played with an actual ball.

Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 08:16:54 PM »
I think T J ranks ahead of Malik Sealy. Leroy Ellis desrves mention as does Dick McGuire.

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 08:28:04 PM »
I think T J ranks ahead of Malik Sealy.

That Tomas Jasiulionis was a hell of a player, wasn't he?

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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2011, 09:40:21 AM »
Ron Ron should be up there, if not top five than top ten.  He led us to an Elite Eight as a soph and made the tournament both years. 

If he stayed an extra year we might have a championship banner hanging.

Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2011, 10:43:33 AM »
Is there a list anywhere of St Johns 1st round NBA draft picks ?
Found my own answer.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/st-johns/nba_draft

The highest drafted since 1960:
1967  #4  Dove
1962  #6  Ellis
1981  #7 Mullin
1969  #11 Warren
1978 #12  Johnson
1992 #14  Sealy
1986 #14  Berry
1973  #14  Davis
1999 #16  Artest
1985 #16  Wennington
1987  #18 M Jackson

of note Tony Jackson was drafted 1961 3rd round #1 (less teams back then though)


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Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 04:25:36 PM »
Is there a list anywhere of St Johns 1st round NBA draft picks ?
Found my own answer.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/st-johns/nba_draft

The highest drafted since 1960:
1967  #4  Dove
1962  #6  Ellis
1981  #7 Mullin
1969  #11 Warren
1978 #12  Johnson
1992 #14  Sealy
1986 #14  Berry
1973  #14  Davis
1999 #16  Artest
1985 #16  Wennington
1987  #18 M Jackson

of note Tony Jackson was drafted 1961 3rd round #1 (less teams back then though)

Mullin and Wennington were drafted the same year ('85).

Re: Kiernan Darcy's 6 Top 5 St. John's players of all-time
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2011, 09:47:22 PM »
 >:(Tony J would have been a top 10 NBA pick except for a phone call he did not report to police during a time of BB scandals. Tony helped beat W Va at Garden by scoring 39 against Jerry West.