6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2018 Class => Topic started by: wpc77 on April 10, 2015, 07:42:22 PM
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Committed to Pitt when Slice was there. Dad very close friends with Slice. Kentucky hasn't offered, but I assume we would. IF we get Slice........
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Committed to Pitt when Slice was there. Dad very close friends with Slice. Kentucky hasn't offered, but I assume we would. IF we get Slice........
Stud. His dad played for Southern Ct State & is indeed very close to Slice. Heron, btw, has worked out at SJU several times I believe. The same thought crossed my mind. Guess we better get Slice first. :)
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From Evan Daniels
Rawle Alkins & Mustapba Heron on the same team is scary. Both of these dudes are tough & physical. Relentless attackers. Heron has made 3's.
8:50pm - 10 Apr 15
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@Nateblueis4real: Mustapha Heron (Pitt Commit) Mixtape @ Dallas Adidas Gauntlet: https://t.co/jn6UrSQe0p via @YouTube
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@AdamZagoria
Mustapha Heron is opening up his recruitment but will still list Pitt among his schools, source tells @SNYtv
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Go get him Slice!!
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@AdamZagoria
Hearing St. John's is among the schools making a run at former Pitt commit @Mheron_1
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@AdamFinkelstein: No word yet where Heron will consider but St. John's will be the buzz with Barry Rohrrsen, who first recruited Heron at Pitt, now on staff.
@GoodmanESPN: @AdamFinkelstein is there even a question on this one?
Stud!!!!
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Evan Daniels @EvanDaniels 1h1 hour ago
I think it'd be safe to classify St. John's as the new team to beat for Mustapha Heron. Slice Rohrssen has a strong connection to his father
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@AdamZagoria: I'd expect to see Chris Mullin and Slice watching a lot of NY Rens games this summer.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Mustapha-Heron-144972
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Lefty
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@EvanDaniels: Mustapha Heron played very well last weekend at the Adidas Gauntlet. Showed off a much improved jump shot. Took next step as a player.
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@AdamFinkelstein: Mustapha Heron & Rawle Alkins are AAU teammate with NY Rens. Expect St. John's to be front and center in Indy next weekend.
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http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Mustapha-Heron-at-Sacred-Heart-63639/CurrentExpertPredictions
All changed to SJU/UK
Can we just stop competing with Kentucky for guys?
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http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Mustapha-Heron-at-Sacred-Heart-63639/CurrentExpertPredictions
All changed to SJU/UK
Can we just stop competing with Kentucky for guys?
Beats competing with Lehigh.
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Is this guy better than Sampson or pretty close? Does this mean Sampson ship likely has sailed?
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http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Mustapha-Heron-at-Sacred-Heart-63639/CurrentExpertPredictions
All changed to SJU/UK
Can we just stop competing with Kentucky for guys?
When we re competing w Kentucky, it means we are going after the best.
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Is this guy better than Sampson or pretty close? Does this mean Sampson ship likely has sailed?
Don't think it has anything to do with Sampson but a nice option in case we don't get Sampson.
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http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Mustapha-Heron-at-Sacred-Heart-63639/CurrentExpertPredictions
All changed to SJU/UK
Can we just stop competing with Kentucky for guys?
Beats competing with Lehigh.
Exactly, want the same players that Duke UK KU etc want or even Nova
Better to lose out to them some of the time but get our's now and then
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Is this guy better than Sampson or pretty close? Does this mean Sampson ship likely has sailed?
Don't think it has anything to do with Sampson but a nice option in case we don't get Sampson.
Also Heron is 2016, so no reason they cant both co-exist, and protects if Jordan leaves after next year (or Sampson does)
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Is this guy better than Sampson or pretty close? Does this mean Sampson ship likely has sailed?
Not at all
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Is this guy better than Sampson or pretty close? Does this mean Sampson ship likely has sailed?
Don't think it has anything to do with Sampson but a nice option in case we don't get Sampson.
Also Heron is 2016, so no reason they cant both co-exist, and protects if Jordan leaves after next year (or Sampson does)
And a 6'4" kid could play some small forward
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Alkins v Heron last January:
http://highschoolsports.masslive.com/news/article/-3865222959670474087/pittsburgh-bound-mustapha-heron-guides-sacred-heart-past-christ-the-king-at-hoophall-classic/
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Didn't realize he was a 16 kid. Thanks
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In a perfect world you should be recruiting multiple kids for multiple years so there is a backup plan and relationship.
The days of having limited recruiting and a short roster are over.
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Wow, Slice and st johns are about to send a ripple through the whole college bball world.
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Imagine in 2016 having a backcourt of Sampson, Alkins, Heron, Mussini and Doughty?
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Sick. Or replace one with Temple Gibbs
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Imagine in 2016 having a backcourt of Sampson, Alkins, Heron, Mussini and Doughty?
Only one basketball.
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Imagine in 2016 having a backcourt of Sampson, Alkins, Heron, Mussini and Doughty?
If we have 4 ships I would like Alkins, Yawke, Heron, and Gibbs LOL
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I'd like to mix in some more size....height and muscle. I guess Yawke would help some there.
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Imagine in 2016 having a backcourt of Sampson, Alkins, Heron, Mussini and Doughty?
Only one basketball.
Kentucky figured it out
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Let's get one of them to commit first.
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Let's get one of them to commit first.
Thank you!
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Let's get one of them to commit first.
Thank you!
That's why I said IMAGINE
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@NYCHoopsnball: 2016 Mustapha Heron will decide before the high school season per Bryan Heron
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@NYCHoopsnball: 2016 Mustapha Heron will decide before the high school season per Bryan Heron
wow.
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@NYCHoopsnball: 2016 Mustapha Heron will decide before the high school season per Bryan Heron
wow.
That still gives him over 6 months to decide. Wouldnt read too much into that one other than he wants his HS season free from this decision.
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Mustapha Heron is back on the market after being committed for nearly a year.
Heron Opens Up
When Mustapha Heron committed to Pittsburgh as a sophomore it was simply due to a connection between his father and newly hired Panthers assistant coach Barry "Slice" Rohrssen. The fit didn't necessarily make sense, but it was tough to argue with Pittsburgh bringing in a top-25 recruit. Heron - a 2016 wing prospect from Sacred Heart (CT) - is now ranked No. 23 in the nation and no longer committed to the program.
After Slice left to take the Kentucky job it seemed less likely that he would remain a Panther. Nearly a year later, Slice is on the move to St. John's as Chris Mullin's associate head coach. Heron re-opened his commitment on Friday and the Red Storm are considered to be in very good shape.
Going forward, he will play with the New York Rens (NY) and teammate Rawle Alkins. Both are highly prioritized by the new St. John's staff and this could make for an interesting scenario if one or both end up in Queens.
https://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1758212
The decision to decommit Heron said was less to do with Rohrssen going to St. John's and more to do with the fact that he felt he made his decision to commit to Pittsburgh too early, and he wants to see what else is out there for him, wanting to explore his options.
In just the past 24 hours Heron admitted that he has heard from Duke and UNLV among others, though one team he says he has not heard from is St. John's, and while that may be considered a shock to some, Heron understands and says he believes that is going to change pretty soon."I haven't heard from them yet but I am sure I will hear from them soon," Heron stated.
Another interesting note is that Heron is a teammate of another St. John's target, Christ the King guard Rawle Alkins '16, on the Rens AAU program on the Adidas circuit, and that while they haven't discussed specific schools with each other, the conversation of playing together on the next level has been discussed."
Oh yeah, we talk about the possibilities of going to college together, but we both still have to do what's best for ourselves. We will just have to see what happens in the future." -
https://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1758465#sthash.ArXBTsCc.dpuf
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Imagine in 2016 having a backcourt of Sampson, Alkins, Heron, Mussini and Doughty?
If we have 4 ships I would like Alkins, Yawke, Heron, and Gibbs LOL
How bout Ponds, Alkins, Heron for 1-3 spots, then add frontcourt.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Expect a slew of coaches from Indiana, St. John's, N.C. State, Villanova, Cincy & more to watch 2016s @Iam_RawleAlkins & @Mheron_1 this wknd
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http://scouthoops.scout.com/story/1541130
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Looking good!
http://zagsblog.com/articles/mustapha-heron-hearing-from-four-schools-the-most/
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Looking good!
http://zagsblog.com/articles/mustapha-heron-hearing-from-four-schools-the-most/
Every thing he wants we are a perfect fit for. And love that the lefty connection is a huge added bonus to him!
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He's been a lock as soon as slice came...
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He's been a lock as soon as slice came...
Wow, this kid is a stud!
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He's been a lock as soon as slice came...
That's excellent news. Everything I read, he looks like a stud.
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He's been a lock as soon as slice came...
no doubt
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
I don't feel as strongly as you do, but I agree that they seem to have duplicative skill sets. Still, I think you take 2 top 50 talents who want to be here and figure it out
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Would be nice to get an early commitment from a stud.
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
I don't feel as strongly as you do, but I agree that they seem to have duplicative skill sets. Still, I think you take 2 top 50 talents who want to be here and figure it out
I do not want to hijack this Heron thread but he clearly wants to be here. I don't think Rawle wants to be here regardless of how much he talks about being excited he got that SJU offer etc. If thats the case then why mention waiting it out till Spring and not mentioning SJU at times?
Anyway Heron is the goods and looking fwd to his commitment.
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
So there's a legit recruit 10 minutes away from campus that is showing interest in us and you want to move on from him already? Come on
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
I think staff has secured A suitable front court for the next few years. After this year we will have Sima and Owens at the 5 for three seasons. As well as Williams and Amar at the 4 for two seasons. Seems obvious they are gonna go guard heavy for this '16 class. Heron would better than a great start, we get him and we can afford to be somewhat patient.
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
I think staff has secured A suitable front court for the next few years. After this year we will have Sima and Owens at the 5 for three seasons. As well as Williams and Amar at the 4 for two seasons. Seems obvious they are gonna go guard heavy for this '16 class. Heron would better than a great start, we get him and we can afford to be somewhat patient.
Agree
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
So there's a legit recruit 10 minutes away from campus that is showing interest in us and you want to move on from him already? Come on
Yeah. But tell Arbs I said hi :)
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush,
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
So there's a legit recruit 10 minutes away from campus that is showing interest in us and you want to move on from him already? Come on
Yeah. But tell Arbs I said hi :)
Arbs' issues came with the last staff, not this one. Get over it already
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
So there's a legit recruit 10 minutes away from campus that is showing interest in us and you want to move on from him already? Come on
Yeah. But tell Arbs I said hi :)
Arbs' issues came with the last staff, not this one. Get over it already
No issues here but you always come to CTK defense. I expressed an opinion that I would move after getting one commitment. Will gladly discuss over PMs as not to digress from Heron thread.
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
So there's a legit recruit 10 minutes away from campus that is showing interest in us and you want to move on from him already? Come on
Yeah. But tell Arbs I said hi :)
Arbs' issues came with the last staff, not this one. Get over it already
No issues here but you always come to CTK defense. I expressed an opinion that I would move after getting one commitment. Will gladly discuss over PMs as not to digress from Heron thread.
Stop trolling Moose
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
So there's a legit recruit 10 minutes away from campus that is showing interest in us and you want to move on from him already? Come on
Yeah. But tell Arbs I said hi :)
Arbs' issues came with the last staff, not this one. Get over it already
No issues here but you always come to CTK defense. I expressed an opinion that I would move after getting one commitment. Will gladly discuss over PMs as not to digress from Heron thread.
Stop trolling Moose
We're tag team partners.
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I don't disagree with Moose on this. Very similar to Rawle. Need to continue recruiting Rawle, but I'd be just as happy if we landed Heron and move on to other positions. Heron is a beast of a player and would be a big prize for us.
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Let's get both
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Let's get both
ding ding ding
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Honestly this won't be popular but I'd gladly take this commitment and move on from Rawle. Looks like Rawle wants to drag things out and him and Heron are pretty much the same player to me just lefty and righty versions.
As of right now we will lose Chris, Sheed (likely), Ron, and maybe more depending on other additions so 3 focuses on 16 IMO should be a PG and big man in addition to Heron.
I am back in the Rawle camp. I didn't realize how smart the kid was until I heard him give an interview. I just assumed he was like Paul Harris based on his build and game. Not at all.
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I don't disagree with Moose on this. Very similar to Rawle. Need to continue recruiting Rawle, but I'd be just as happy if we landed Heron and move on to other positions. Heron is a beast of a player and would be a big prize for us.
I'm somewhat in the same boat. Don't get me wrong, as I'd certainly take both Alkins and Heron, if he ended up working out in that manner. But if we were to receive a commitment from Heron, then I don't know if I'd go full throttle after Alkins. Continue to recruit him, as MCN mentioned, but particular focus on other positions. Alkins also is openly pining for a UNC offer. UNC is still a solid program, but I can't recall the last time I've known someone to openly mention UNC to recruit 'em.
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Matt Jessen-Howard
@mjessenhoward
Mustapha Heron listed Cincinnati, Pitt, St. John's, UCLA, and UConn as the schools recruiting him the hardest.
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Since backing away from his commitment to Pitt in April, Heron's phone has been burning up. He's heard from the likes of Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Cincinnati, Texas, Connecticut, Maryland and St. John's among others.
"Sometime in the next few weeks I think we'll look to cut things down and maybe set some visits," said Heron. "As far as a decision goes, it will probably be before my senior season."
Heron says that Pitt is very much under consideration. Also, he has heard the rumblings that many consider St. John's the team to beat because of the relationship between his father and Red Storm assistant Barry Rohrssen. Heron's father played professionally overseas with Rohrssen and Rohrssen was on staff at Pitt when Heron made his initial commitment.
"As of right now it is people making assumptions," said Heron. "Of course the relationship plays a big role in it. But I have to go somewhere that is best for me. It might be the best fit, it might not be the best fit for me I just have to weigh things out."
https://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1763877
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I'll take it.
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I'll take it.
Agree. He's basically saying that slice is and will play a huge role, but he still has to check OT out first. Thats all good. I'm sure by the end of the say that having Slice here as well as a starting spot, A dream teamer shooting guard as head coach and all the other things we have to offer will win out.
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I'll take it.
Agree. He's basically saying that slice is and will play a huge role, but he still has to check OT out first. Thats all good. I'm sure by the end of the say that having Slice here as well as a starting spot, A dream teamer shooting guard as head coach and all the other things we have to offer will win out.
Agree
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UCONN Rivals site has a follow up interview with Heron and Heron's father on his recruitment:
"UConn is on my list being a local kid," said Heron, who has received an offer from the Huskies and is good friends with future Husky Steve Enoch from the Class of 2015. Enoch and Heron's relationship dates back to their youth basketball days.
Heron, who took his first visit to Storrs in eighth grade, said he has spoken with UConn coach Kevin Ollie several times.
"I've talked to him, he's a good guy," he said.
Also in the hunt for Heron's services are Cincinnati, Kentucky, Texas, St. John's, Michigan State, Duke and North Carolina - the latter having upped its pursuit in recent weeks. Pittsburgh has also been rumored to remain in the mix.
Even though dad was not a major recruit coming out of high school, he does have plenty of college connections, among them Mick Cronin and assists Larry Davis at Cincinnati and St. John's assistant Barry Rohrssen, who played with Bryan Heron overseas.
"I've talked to some friends, see what they are saying," he said. "UConn is definitely on his list."
Before making a decision, Heron plans to take all five official visits, which have not been finalized, and perhaps a few unofficial as well.
"I'll make a decision before next season," he said.
https://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1764278
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Everybody seem to think this was a slam dunk a few weeks ago. Still the case or more up in the air now?
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Everybody seem to think this was a slam dunk a few weeks ago. Still the case or more up in the air now?
He's gonna make a decision in the next few months. I still think that Slice is all over this and we have all the goods to offer including playing time and a hall of fame coach who played his position. Just a gut feeling but I think we are in good shape.
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Let this stuff play out before anyone jumps to conclusions. The staff has time now to work on these 16 and beyond kids diligently.
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I fully expect this to be drawn out circus
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Let this stuff play out before anyone jumps to conclusions. The staff has time now to work on these 16 and beyond kids diligently.
Jump to conclusions? 79 and Fordham both said he was ours so not getting from out of nowhere. Seems like he's very open and we are just one of a few options.
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I fully expect this to be drawn out circus
ruh-oh. At least it's only for 4 months- lol
https://youtu.be/S4fiueMzLeE (https://youtu.be/S4fiueMzLeE)
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I fully expect this to be drawn out circus
That's what, 90% of the recruits?
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@CBTonNBC: Pangos All-American Camp Day 1: Mustapha Heron dominates; Terrance Ferguson shows glimpses of greatness http://t.co/fDbXWu7jRE
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@CBTonNBC: Pangos All-American Camp Day 1: Mustapha Heron dominates; Terrance Ferguson shows glimpses of greatness http://t.co/fDbXWu7jRE
" Heron told NBCSports.com that Kentucky, Mississippi State, Texas and UCLA are coming at him hard and he recently went on an unofficial visit to St. John’s to check out the Red Storm under new head coach Chris Mullin. "
Nice to hear!
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"Heron is open in his recruitment with the St. John’s new coaching staff looking like they’ll be major factors in the race. He wants to make his decision by the start of his senior season."
@Ballislife: Friday Pangos Camp Breakdown by @ronmflores: Mustapha Heron, Mario Keggler Shine! http://t.co/oGUsB6Maag http://t.co/h7FRxYFr1w
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Would love to gain commitments from Heron and Ahmed before season starts. The two and three would be locked down for a long time with them and Ellison.
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@trigonis30: @PangosAACamp Sat nitecap top efforts: Rawle Alkins 26 pts (11/17 FG); Mustapha Heron 25 pts (12/17 FG): Xavier Tillman 18 pts (8/9 FG)
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Pangos
per Rivals.com:
Heron was also busy playing the game the right way.
Known since early in his high school career for his ability to overpower opponents, Heron is still a power player. The southpaw takes and delivers bumps while finishing plays and is always going full speed. Now, he's added a strong skill package to go along with his power and athleticism.
Heron says that he loves James Harden's game and you can see some similarities in style. He loves to pull-up for jumpers, is a crisp passer off the bounce and he hits the glass like a bigger player. Most notably, Heron has improved his game when heading to his off, right, hand and he seems to have much more trust in his jumper.
The way he played in April and the way he played on Saturday at Pangos, Heron is going to be under serious consideration for elevation to five-star status and his spot in the top 25 of 2016 will be safe when rankings get updated in the latter part of June.
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@jeffborzello: From start to finish, hard to argue that Mustapha Heron has been the best performer this weekend. #PangosAA
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@trigonis30: 2015 @PangosAACamp co-MOPs Mustapha Heron & Rawle Alkins. Top 30 Game co-MVPs: Trae Young, Tauren Thompson & Mohammad Bamba
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Can we have both please?
Thanks.
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We will be extremely fortunate if we can get 1
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1. Mustapha Heron and Rawle Alkins position themselves for a big summer
In the Class of 2016, shooting guards Mustapha Heron and Rawle Alkins have already positioned themselves as national recruits with a chance to become future All-Americans. Both bruising East coast guards had outstanding showings at the Pangos All-American Camp and they were the two best players during the weekend.
The 6-foot-5 Heron showed an ability to score going to the hoop almost any possession he wanted and he also showed that he can create for others with the pass. While his jumper and going right (using his off-hand) are both still a work-in-progress, Heron showed that he’s more confident going to those moves than he was last summer. He’s put himself in prime position to potentially be a five-star recruit with All-American honors this spring if he continues to play like this.
As for Alkins, he was a bit more inconsistent than Heron, but the New York native had peaks that were as good as anyone at the camp. With a deceptive first step and a lot of power going to the rim, the 6-foot-4 Alkins is very difficult to stop going to the basket and he had his way at Pangos in the camp’s up-and-down style of play. Much like Heron, the jumper is still a work in progress, but Alkins is crafty scoring the ball inside of 15 feet and he isn’t afraid to finish with either hand.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/02/five-observations-from-the-pangos-all-american-camp/
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Would like to see both guys refine their jump shots. IMO, that's what's keeping them from being truly elite prospects.
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Would like to see both guys refine their jump shots. IMO, that's what's keeping them from being truly elite prospects.
And who do you think might be able to help out that situation?
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Like his passing in addition to being born scorer. When he refines his jumper, watch out!
@Ballislife: Mustapha Heron Has That D-Wade Type of Game! Pangos All American Mixtape http://t.co/JC3QEdE7j2 http://t.co/LckSl6AwC9
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Scorer who can pass very well. Improve that jumper & watch out!
@Ballislife: Mustapha Heron Has That D-Wade Type of Game! Pangos All American Mixtape http://t.co/JC3QEdE7j2 http://t.co/LckSl6AwC9
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@nbadraftnet: USA wins over U20 France 76-71. Adebayo, Simmons, Alkins, Heron all impressive. 1st win in Treviso! #adidasEurocamp
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@NYPost_Brazille: Andy Borman, AAU coach for Rawle Alkins and Mustapha Heron, on #sjubb recruiting efforts fur duo: "They're doing everything right."
@NYPost_Brazille: Andy Borman said #sjubb has formed relationships with everyone involved with Akins and Heron -- the kids, their families, AAU and HS coaches
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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2015-adidas-Eurocamp-Day-Three-5066
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@NYPost_Brazille: Andy Borman, AAU coach for Rawle Alkins and Mustapha Heron, on #sjubb recruiting efforts fur duo: "They're doing everything right."
@NYPost_Brazille: Andy Borman said #sjubb has formed relationships with everyone involved with Akins and Heron -- the kids, their families, AAU and HS coaches
pumped
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Alkins commentary too;
http://zagsblog.com/articles/rawle-alkins-mustapha-heron-impress-nba-personnel-adidas-eurocamp/
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@NERRHoops: John Kibbe has a New England recap from the Rumble in the Bronx http://t.co/pY4tyMYTjJ
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Heron on his visit to SJU a month ago:
After one of his games when we got to catch up with Heron he said that he hasn't been on any visits as of late, though he did take an unofficial to St. John's a month ago and he said that they visit went very well."
I enjoyed it," Heron said about the trip to Queens, NY campus. "It was great to get to talk to head coach Chris Mullin and get to talk basketball with him. It really gave me an idea of what they are looking to do with the program and I was excited about everything when I left.
"St. John's he said is definitely in his mix of schools, but Heron added that he has recently received offers from UCLA, Mississippi State, Kansas, and Miami (FL) and that each of them are schools he is also considering along with many others at this point.
There is no Top 5 or Top 10 for Heron as of yet either with the guard saying that he won't cut down a list until after the AAU season, but that when he does cut down a list he will take his 5 official visits in the fall and make a decision sometime before his senior season on the court with Sacred Heart.
https://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1775526
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A little late to the party fordham. Believe I read this about a month ago. :) But thanks for your efforts.
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Thanks fordham
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Heard last night he is a HEAVY, i mean HEAVY SJU lean......HEAVY!
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Heard last night he is a HEAVY, i mean HEAVY SJU lean......HEAVY!
any idea when he's looking to make a decision?
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Heard last night he is a HEAVY, i mean HEAVY SJU lean......HEAVY!
Yes, hearing same recently. We'll see.
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Heard last night he is a HEAVY, i mean HEAVY SJU lean......HEAVY!
any idea when he's looking to make a decision?
Heard last night he is a HEAVY, i mean HEAVY SJU lean......HEAVY!
any idea when he's looking to make a decision?
This summer last I heard
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Heard last night he is a HEAVY, i mean HEAVY SJU lean......HEAVY!
any idea when he's looking to make a decision?
Heard last night he is a HEAVY, i mean HEAVY SJU lean......HEAVY!
any idea when he's looking to make a decision?
This summer last I heard
Cool. Would be great to get a big 2016 commit before the season started.
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Overshadowed by Mussini announcement today but obviously this would be huge especially if he commits this summer.
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Likely to commit after the July Live period ends.
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@JonRothstein: 2016 wing Mustapha Heron is currently on an unofficial visit at Marquette, source told @CBSSports. Also unofficially visited Alabama Sunday.
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@JonRothstein: 2016 wing Mustapha Heron (NY Rens) will take an unofficial visit on St. John's on Thursday, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Any chance he commits?
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@JonRothstein: 2016 wing Mustapha Heron (NY Rens) will take an unofficial visit on St. John's on Thursday, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Any chance he commits?
Heard he might.
Then again, same person told me Richmond to SJU was a done deal.
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@JonRothstein: 2016 wing Mustapha Heron (NY Rens) will take an unofficial visit on St. John's on Thursday, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Any chance he commits?
Heard he might.
Then again, same person told me Richmond to SJU was a done deal.
He's right on second point I believe.
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@JonRothstein: 2016 wing Mustapha Heron (NY Rens) will take an unofficial visit on St. John's on Thursday, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Any chance he commits?
Heard he might.
Then again, same person told me Richmond to SJU was a done deal.
It was very close to a done deal as recently as three weeks ago but hit a snag. Hopefully it works out
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A second visit this week is very good sign. Heron to sju would be amazing way to start the 2016 class..
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A second visit this week is very good sign. Heron to sju would be amazing way to start the 2016 class..
Will get the ball rolling for sure.
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A second visit this week is very good sign. Heron to sju would be amazing way to start the 2016 class..
Will get the ball rolling for sure.
Can envision Heron next to Rowan in 16'... Would be hard to beat those two wings, by even the blue bloods. Both big timers.
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A second visit this week is very good sign. Heron to sju would be amazing way to start the 2016 class..
Will get the ball rolling for sure.
Can envision Heron next to Rowan in 16'... Would be hard to beat those two wings, by even the blue bloods. Both big timers.
Couldn't find a photo with both of them. :)
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Big day with Heron visiting the second time in a month. Keeping fingers crossed for a commitment. He wants to commit this summer... No better time than today...😉
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Some surprised for him today...he will be at SJU.....Rawlie enjoying attention so who knows. Hearing Rowan 75%/80%....greek kid was at around 5% but now hearing his dad is moving with him so SJU gaining momentum but my bet would still be Oregon or NC ST
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Thanks SJU79 for the info. You think Heron will announce soon?
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Thanks sju79. What do you think about this eligibility stuff? Do you think lovett and sima will be here? Thanx again
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Told there is no Heron visit today. Apparently a NCAA contact issue, not to worry. I am not an expert in that regard, just sharing what I heard just now from local scribe.
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Interesting...HAdnt heard that yet....TY
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Can't visit UNOFFICIALLY in July per NCAA rules. So you can visit up until 7/6 but they need to be official visits.
Then starting 7/6 is a Dead Period (No visits) EXCEPT of course for the 3 designated Evaluation Periods first being 7/8 thru 7/12 where coaches will be on the road.
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@AdamZagoria: Mustapha Heron was going to visit St. John's today but can't b/c no unofficials are allowed, source tells @SNYtv. May visit in August.
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@AdamZagoria: Mustapha Heron was going to visit St. John's today but can't b/c no unofficials are allowed, source tells @SNYtv. May visit in August.
Then his team will compete in a series of best of seven series that will all go 7 games and he will decide sometime after that. No wait then school will start...his senior year of hoops will start... etc. etc. etc. ;) :) Best we all have some patience.
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Some surprised for him today...he will be at SJU.....Rawlie enjoying attention so who knows. Hearing Rowan 75%/80%....greek kid was at around 5% but now hearing his dad is moving with him so SJU gaining momentum but my bet would still be Oregon or NC ST
Kid would feel more at home in Queens than Oregon or North Carolina, no?
I hope he has some relatives in Astoria...
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Not sure how old this is:
Chris Fisher@ChrisFisher247 35m35 minutes ago
Mustapha Heron said Kentucky reached out after his strong showing at the Pangos AA Camp. Being open, patient since decommitting from Pitt.
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@NYCHoops: http://t.co/7PyBUZZ9sH - Mustapha Heron Cuts List https://t.co/9aoJgCOC1J #Rivalsa
Fordham, anyone?
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When asked if he had an idea of where his son might be going he responded enthusiastically, "[My son's] loving SMU, Mississippi State, Auburn, Alabama, St. John's, and Maryland."
His father then outlined a loose schedule of upcoming visits saying, "We will visit all of the schools between August and September. Mississippi State will be on August 27th."
The shooting guard already took an unofficial visit a month ago with St Johns. The Johnnies must have left a lingering taste on his palate because they remained on his school list. Heron spoke to NYCHoops.net back then saying he enjoy his visit at the Queens, NY campus.
https://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1781444
Assuming those are his final 6 and he wants to visit all of them he probably takes his 5 officials to the non-area schools.
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When asked if he had an idea of where his son might be going he responded enthusiastically, "[My son's] loving SMU, Mississippi State, Auburn, Alabama, St. John's, and Maryland."
His father then outlined a loose schedule of upcoming visits saying, "We will visit all of the schools between August and September. Mississippi State will be on August 27th."
The shooting guard already took an unofficial visit a month ago with St Johns. The Johnnies must have left a lingering taste on his palate because they remained on his school list. Heron spoke to NYCHoops.net back then saying he enjoy his visit at the Queens, NY campus.
https://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1781444
Assuming those are his final 6 and he wants to visit all of them he probably takes his 5 officials to the non-area schools.
Appreciate it Fordham
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Braziller noted SJU & Bama are "strong" from what he hears.
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@AdamFinkelstein: Mustapha Heron: "I haven't completely cut my list but those are the ones I'm favoring." St. J's, Maryland, Bama, Auburn, Miss. St, SMU, Marq
Can't blame him for enjoying the attention
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@AdamFinkelstein: Mustapha Heron: "I haven't completely cut my list but those are the ones I'm favoring." St. J's, Maryland, Bama, Auburn, Miss. St, SMU, Marq
Can't blame him for enjoying the attention
As long as he ends up here I am fine with it. It doesn't sound like he has made up his mind like a lot of people here seem to think. We will see what happens.
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@CourtsideFilms: New Video: Mustapha Heron (2016) Mixtape @ The Adidas Gauntlet Finale http://t.co/qjaYIlkdum http://t.co/c8CVmbYEkG
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@AdamZagoria: Mustapha Heron says he's known Slice since he was a kid through his dad and has a good relationship, but lists 7 schools.
@AdamZagoria: Heron says he will likely commit in the fall and then support Alkins/talk to him about where he's going. Rawle committing in spring.
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@AdamZagoria: Meriden, Conn., native Mustapha Heron on St. John's: "That's somewhere that I feel close, it would be nice to be at home."
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@NYPost_Brazille: Mustapha Heron also says Slice being at #sjubb has "impact" in recruitment.
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/mustapha-heron-plans-fall-commitment-says-its-very-realistic-he-and-rawle-alkins-play-together-in-college/
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Not exactly a news bulletin, but looking very good with Heron.
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http://nypost.com/2015/07/17/familiar-face-could-be-what-lands-st-johns-a-key-recruit/
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@AdamZagoria: Chris Mullin & Slice watching @Mheron_1 & the Rens right now in Vegas. Working hard as they can for Heron & @Iam_RawleAlkins
Last night
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Mustapha Heron - The five-star shooting guard and the New York Rens were bounced in the round of 16 at the Adidas Summer Championships by Kansas Pray 'N Play but not before Heron made his mark. The five-star rising senior shooting guard finished off a spectacular showing in Vegas going for 30 points, four rebounds and four assists. He hit deep shots, scored through contact and did everything in his power to keep his team alive. - See more at: https://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1786112#sthash.bCOQi3FB.sWV5Zd0c.dpuf
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One man's opinion but;
@AdamFinkelstein: I believe Mississippi St is leader. SMU, Marq, St. John's, Maryland, Auburn, Bama involved 2 @johntuozzo24 Any update on Mustapha Heron?
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One man's opinion but;
@AdamFinkelstein: I believe Mississippi St is leader. SMU, Marq, St. John's, Maryland, Auburn, Bama involved 2 @johntuozzo24 Any update on Mustapha Heron?
Not good.
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One man's opinion but;
@AdamFinkelstein: I believe Mississippi St is leader. SMU, Marq, St. John's, Maryland, Auburn, Bama involved 2 @johntuozzo24 Any update on Mustapha Heron?
Not good.
Doomed
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Adida$?
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Can someone explain why a school's affiliation with a shoe company impacts a recruits college decision? I have never understood this, but it is mentioned quite frequently.
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Eric BossiVerified account
@ebosshoops
2016 5-star Mustapha Heron's first official visit is set for Mississippi State 8/27. SMU will get one too, no date yet #Adidasnations
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@AdamZagoria: 2016 G @Mheron_1 only has the 1 visit to Miss State set for Aug. 27, his dad confirms. Nothing set for St. John's or others yet.
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Paultzman, are you still feeling as strongly about heron to sju?
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Paultzman, are you still feeling as strongly about heron to sju?
Not really, but hopeful.
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Paultzman, are you still feeling as strongly about heron to sju?
Not really, but hopeful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpUWrl3-mc8
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I would not give up on getting Heron yet. Still in the game, we'll see.
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Can someone explain why a school's affiliation with a shoe company impacts a recruits college decision? I have never understood this, but it is mentioned quite frequently.
Has under armour helped get us anybody?
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Geez, go away for a week and we go from lock to doomed w/ Heron.
Dream team needs one of these kids to pop.
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Can someone explain why a school's affiliation with a shoe company impacts a recruits college decision? I have never understood this, but it is mentioned quite frequently.
Has under armour helped get us anybody?
Yeah
Rysheeeee
Oh forget it.
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Can someone explain why a school's affiliation with a shoe company impacts a recruits college decision? I have never understood this, but it is mentioned quite frequently.
Has under armour helped get us anybody?
Rut Roh
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http://www.rep-am.com/sports/hoopzone/899088.txt
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Dont like the quote that says he wants to go away.
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Dont like the quote that says he wants to go away.
It was referenced in response to UConn interest. He lives relatively close to Storrs. Granted SJU is only about 40 miles further than that,
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@Joshua_Newman: Mustapha Heron said his top 5, which includes St. John's, could change. Dad is quoted as saying UK, Duke, UNC are recruiting his son.
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http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/mustapha-heron-acknowledges-his-top-five-could-change/
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That doesnt sound promising. Hopefully we get good news with Ponds and Yakwe
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Visiting Auburn unofficially this weekend.
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Visiting Auburn unofficially this weekend.
Another UA school
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http://www.myrecordjournal.com/sports/latestsports/7598519-129/meridens-mustapha-heron-after-whirlwind-summer-three-peat-and-college-choice.html
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I still hold out hope for Herron. Everyone has these kids pegged where they want to go but no one actually knows. We are in the running and have as good a shot as anyone. A commitment from another top recruit like Ponds or Yakwe would certainly help us a lot with him.
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Visiting Auburn unofficially this weekend.
Another UA school
Really think they are just creating fake interest to use as leverage against Miss St.
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Please explain, Dave. What kind of leverage would be needed?
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Please explain, Dave. What kind of leverage would be needed?
Whitehead part 2
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Somebody needs a job. Cue coach Pete Bell!
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http://www.myrecordjournal.com/sports/latestsports/7598519-129/meridens-mustapha-heron-after-whirlwind-summer-three-peat-and-college-choice.html
"Heron said the Hearts should be even stronger this year. His younger brother, Raheem Solomon, an incoming sophomore, is taking on a bigger role this winter.
Solomon is already getting collegiate attention of his own. The two brothers live with their father in Meriden."
Maybe someone to keep an eye on;
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Please explain, Dave. What kind of leverage would be needed?
Surmise he means $$ just like the Scam Newton battle when rumors had Miss St offering Scam's father $185,000 and yet he ended up at Auburn who must have offered more.
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Pretty sure Dave is referring to Pretlow getting a job as a college assistant; hence my comment about someone needing a job
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https://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1790867#sthash.4NG3NyFU.uxfs&st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/ddSALoECiG
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Pretty sure Dave is referring to Pretlow getting a job as a college assistant; hence my comment about someone needing a job
Tiny not Pretlow.
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An SEC school involved in illegal recruiting practices? Nnoooo. Couldn't possibly be the case. (They always come in at the end and scoop kids up out of thin air.) And Pearl does things like purposely mispronouncing Carnesecca's name. And saying SJU is in lovely Jamaica, Queens. Which it isn't. It's just where the Fedaral Government sorts their mail. It's in Hillcrest and Jamaica Estates. One of the nicest areas in all of Queens. He did this while he was at Tennessee when recruiting Tobias Harris.
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Ouch..
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Auburn tho?? Guess we can't compete with these boosters
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I'm baffled, honestly didn't see this coming.
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Auburn tho?? Guess we can't compete with these boosters
Yep....
NYCHoops.net
@NYCHoops
@NYCHoopsnball: Rivals 5 star Mustapha Heron commits to #AuburnTigers per Bryan Heron
I, like yourself, didn't see him committing to Auburn, but can't say I'm truly surprised, if you know what I mean.
By the way, you can edit your posts, as to place it all in one place. Otherwise, it looks like you're responding to yourself.
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Jeez man, this stings, atleast we were feeling the momentum sway elsewhere for a month. Lock up Shamorie, Ahmed, Yakwe and crank it up even more with Rawle.
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Auburn tho?? Guess we can't compete with these boosters
Yep....
NYCHoops.net
@NYCHoops
@NYCHoopsnball: Rivals 5 star Mustapha Heron commits to #AuburnTigers per Bryan Heron
I, like yourself, didn't see him committing to Auburn, but can't say I'm truly surprised, if you know what I mean.
By the way, you can edit your posts, as to place it all in one place. Otherwise, it looks like you're responding to yourself.
Lol I know how to work this forum. I think it shows the level of shock I was experiencing that I commented in such a way. Miss st. Wouldn't have shocked me as much. But auburn? Without even taking all of his visits? Did they just back the truck up to the athletic center?
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If he went to Auburn and fell in love with the school and the staff, then good for him. But never even making it to Miss st or sju for visits?
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If he went to Auburn and fell in love with the school and the staff, then good for him. But never even making it to Miss stor sju for visits?
Bruce pearl back to his old tricks...
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Honestly, I think some would agree even Auburn fans are kind of shocked right now.
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Auburn tho?? Guess we can't compete with these boosters
Yep....
NYCHoops.net
@NYCHoops
@NYCHoopsnball: Rivals 5 star Mustapha Heron commits to #AuburnTigers per Bryan Heron
I, like yourself, didn't see him committing to Auburn, but can't say I'm truly surprised, if you know what I mean.
By the way, you can edit your posts, as to place it all in one place. Otherwise, it looks like you're responding to yourself.
Lol I know how to work this forum. I think it shows the level of shock I was experiencing that I commented in such a way. Miss st. Wouldn't have shocked me as much. But auburn? Without even taking all of his visits? Did they just back the truck up to the athletic center?
There was intel that "something" was up, and in many ways, Dave said as much.
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Honestly, I think some would agree even Auburn fans are kind of shocked right now.
There are Auburn basketball fans?
Whole thing is a surprise, but better now than later.
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Well done. This sucks. Auburn plays basketball?
So much for the lock , huh?
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I blame Lavin...lol
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Well done. This sucks. Auburn plays basketball?
So much for the lock , huh?
This is Tuuurrrible
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Auburn is lovely this time of year.
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Def Lavin's fault.
Lots of other fish out there for STJ , recruiting wise.
Need the dream team to close on some of these '16 kids now. Why they were brought here, no?
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I blame Lavin...lol
#mullinmagic lol. Must be lavin. So it wasn't the "sneaker connection" as he commits to a UA school (stings even worse!) goes to show, as I've said, no one is a lock anywhere until the official visits are done. Kids get infatuated on the visit and commit on the spot, doesn't mean it can't change but I would hold our horses on yakwe, ponds and really anybody until they're at least finished visiting. We can recover from this but make no mistake about it between the slice connection and the "inside info" being that it was 100% to be sju not too long ago! this one hurts big time
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@NYPost_Brazille: And for the #sjubb bridge-jumpers, they remain in great shape with Kassoum Yakwe, Shamorie Ponds and Bashir Ahmed. Relax.
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@NYPost_Brazille: And for the #sjubb bridge-jumpers, they remain in great shape with Kassoum Yakwe, Shamorie Ponds and Bashir Ahmed. Relax.
We don't have to get them all. We never had that expectation anyway. A kid wants to go to Auburn for basketball, good luck to him. To go from Connecticut to Alabama is alarming. And to do it for a garbage school in the Deep South for a coach with a history of cheating is alarming.
Still, he's not a kid from NY who jumped town to a dump like Lance did. As far as I know, Heron wasn't our local to lose. The local star came home to save his program, and I think that means he's here to keep local stars home. Ponds is the key to this class. He's the beginning. F this stupid shit. We don't need a player this stupid.
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Auburn hired Bruce Pearl precisely because he wins. Your logic is twisted. There is a reason Miss St and Auburn hired two proven coaches because Mike Slive and the SEC made it clear they are not simply content at being a great football conference they want to be a great basketball conference as well. Your denigrating of everything outside of the tri-state area not only pathetic but ignorant. The fact is Pearl already won at UT a SEC football school in Knoxville but yet he shouldn't be able to get players to Auburn....
If that is the case why did Auburn fire Barbee and hire Pearl? Because Pearl brings baggage yes but he is a great coach who wins.
SJU will be fine. Get the 3 kids they are lined up for and then make a play in the spring for Alkins.
Even without Rawle that would be a good class but getting the others will allow them to play with house money.
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@NYPost_Brazille: And for the #sjubb bridge-jumpers, they remain in great shape with Kassoum Yakwe, Shamorie Ponds and Bashir Ahmed. Relax.
We don't have to get them all. We never had that expectation anyway. A kid wants to go to Auburn for basketball, good luck to him. To go from Connecticut to Alabama is alarming. And to do it for a garbage school in the Deep South for a coach with a history of cheating is alarming.
Still, he's not a kid from NY who jumped town to a dump like Lance did. As far as I know, Heron wasn't our local to lose. The local star came home to save his program, and I think that means he's here to keep local stars home. Ponds is the key to this class. He's the beginning. F this stupid shit. We don't need a player this stupid.
Honestly, if you weren't so ignorant and senile I might be insulted by you calling a kid stupid, but alas there is a reason so all is forgiven.
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Auburn hired Bruce Pearl precisely because he wins. Your logic is twisted. There is a reason Miss St and Auburn hired two proven coaches because Mike Slive and the SEC made it clear they are not simply content at being a great football conference they want to be a great basketball conference as well. Your denigrating of everything outside of the tri-state area not only pathetic but ignorant. The fact is Pearl already won at UT a SEC football school in Knoxville but yet he shouldn't be able to get players to Auburn....
If that is the case why did Auburn fire Barbee and hire Pearl? Because Pearl brings baggage yes but he is a great coach who wins.
SJU will be fine. Get the 3 kids they are lined up for and then make a play in the spring for Alkins.
Even without Rawle that would be a good class but getting the others will allow them to play with house money.
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"SJU will be fine. Get the 3 kids they are lined up for and then make a play in the spring for Alkins"
Precisely
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We were "lined up" for Heron at one point too. Though its a bit early to be overly concerned about 16 after a solid 15 class.
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We were confident about rowan, and heron was for sure coming. Go back as far as Sampson who we were lined up for when the staff was flying out to visit him at his home. Everybody went crazy when we put out all these offers and nobody is questioning the work ethic and all of that is terrific........ But sooner or later you're gonna have to land some of the big fish that we are favorites for. Guess I'm just not as optimistic as you guys but with visits left on tap for yakwe and ponds, and our recent trend of being frontrunners turned bridesmaids, I'm not putting any horse before the cart. Let's get firm commitments out of these kids and make sure lovett, sima and incoming guys are qualified. Getting the rest of the staff announced soon wouldn't hurt either. Until then consider me cautiously optimistic.
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Just wondering. This kid has a tendency of flipping.
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Auburn tho?? Guess we can't compete with these boosters
I did say we were toast when the SEC got involved, or any southern school. And no we can't compete with southern boosters. I knew it as soon as i saw it. Sampson and Jarelle Martin and everyone else that we lost out on. These places have been known to hire strippers (and even worse) to pose as undergrads to get the kids infatuated with the school. But Pearl has this all figured out. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. They come in suddenly sweep people right off their feet. These places cheat like crazy. Even more so in football.
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@NYPost_Brazille: And for the #sjubb bridge-jumpers, they remain in great shape with Kassoum Yakwe, Shamorie Ponds and Bashir Ahmed. Relax.
We don't have to get them all. We never had that expectation anyway. A kid wants to go to Auburn for basketball, good luck to him. To go from Connecticut to Alabama is alarming. And to do it for a garbage school in the Deep South for a coach with a history of cheating is alarming.
Still, he's not a kid from NY who jumped town to a dump like Lance did. As far as I know, Heron wasn't our local to lose. The local star came home to save his program, and I think that means he's here to keep local stars home. Ponds is the key to this class. He's the beginning. F this stupid shit. We don't need a player this stupid.
Honestly, if you weren't so ignorant and senile I might be insulted by you calling a kid stupid, but alas there is a reason so all is forgiven.
He went to Auburn for basketball. If you don't think that's stupid, then you obviously are pretty stupid yourself. Nothing new here. Carry on, local nice person.
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Just wondering. This kid has a tendency of flipping.
He picked Auburn for basketball. He's being paid.
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@NYPost_Brazille: And for the #sjubb bridge-jumpers, they remain in great shape with Kassoum Yakwe, Shamorie Ponds and Bashir Ahmed. Relax.
We don't have to get them all. We never had that expectation anyway. A kid wants to go to Auburn for basketball, good luck to him. To go from Connecticut to Alabama is alarming. And to do it for a garbage school in the Deep South for a coach with a history of cheating is alarming.
Still, he's not a kid from NY who jumped town to a dump like Lance did. As far as I know, Heron wasn't our local to lose. The local star came home to save his program, and I think that means he's here to keep local stars home. Ponds is the key to this class. He's the beginning. F this stupid shit. We don't need a player this stupid.
Honestly, if you weren't so ignorant and senile I might be insulted by you calling a kid stupid, but alas there is a reason so all is forgiven.
He went to Auburn for basketball. If you don't think that's stupid, then you obviously are pretty stupid yourself. Nothing new here. Carry on, local nice person.
You do realize that St. John's and Auburn have the same exact number of NCAA Tournament wins in the last decade right? Auburn also has a head coach that has proved he can win anywhere, our head coach is a question mark. If we beat out Kentucky or Kansas or Duke their fans would call the kid stupid for picking St. John's over their school, and they'd be just as right as you are here
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Last week I was out with two former D1 head coaches and we were talking hoops. They said Slice is the best D 1 recruiter with a brief case full of cash. They doubted he would be successful at SJU referencing his failure at Mann College.
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Auburn tho?? Guess we can't compete with these boosters
I did say we were toast when the SEC got involved, or any southern school. And no we can't compete with southern boosters. I knew it as soon as i saw it. Sampson and Jarelle Martin and everyone else that we lost out on. These places have been known to hire strippers (and even worse) to pose as undergrads to get the kids infatuated with the school. But Pearl has this all figured out. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. They come in suddenly sweep people right off their feet. These places cheat like crazy. Even more so in football.
Pearl and Auburn just started recruiting Heron (a top 20 kid) around June or July, and swooped in and got him within a month or month and a half. That is something Calipari, Coach K, or anyone who recruits at UNC or Kansas are capable of doing.
As, I stated before.... I'm extremely aware of the SEC boosters shenanigans when it comes to football recruiting, so I wouldn't be surprised in the least, if those same SEC schools are up to those same unethical practices when it comes to hoops.
I also stated earlier there was a some quotes from Dave that seemed to be indirectly mentioning a muddled recruitment.
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Wasn't worth the hassle guys. He's a great player but this is a new era at St. John's. There is a strong chance there will be two commits within two weeks. One for sure.
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Guess we can forget Heron playing with Rawle in college as I doubt he will follow him to Auburn.
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@NYPost_Brazille: And for the #sjubb bridge-jumpers, they remain in great shape with Kassoum Yakwe, Shamorie Ponds and Bashir Ahmed. Relax.
We don't have to get them all. We never had that expectation anyway. A kid wants to go to Auburn for basketball, good luck to him. To go from Connecticut to Alabama is alarming. And to do it for a garbage school in the Deep South for a coach with a history of cheating is alarming.
Still, he's not a kid from NY who jumped town to a dump like Lance did. As far as I know, Heron wasn't our local to lose. The local star came home to save his program, and I think that means he's here to keep local stars home. Ponds is the key to this class. He's the beginning. F this stupid shit. We don't need a player this stupid.
Honestly, if you weren't so ignorant and senile I might be insulted by you calling a kid stupid, but alas there is a reason so all is forgiven.
He went to Auburn for basketball. If you don't think that's stupid, then you obviously are pretty stupid yourself. Nothing new here. Carry on, local nice person.
You do realize that St. John's and Auburn have the same exact number of NCAA Tournament wins in the last decade right? Auburn also has a head coach that has proved he can win anywhere, our head coach is a question mark. If we beat out Kentucky or Kansas or Duke their fans would call the kid stupid for picking St. John's over their school, and they'd be just as right as you are here
He went to Auburn. No one questions the kid's judgement or honesty when they pick UNC, Duke, GTown, Cal, Stanford, UF etc, but Auburn. Come on! Here, you're in NY. You have MSG.
Mullin may be a new coach, but Pearl is proven to be dirty.
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@NYPost_Brazille: And for the #sjubb bridge-jumpers, they remain in great shape with Kassoum Yakwe, Shamorie Ponds and Bashir Ahmed. Relax.
We don't have to get them all. We never had that expectation anyway. A kid wants to go to Auburn for basketball, good luck to him. To go from Connecticut to Alabama is alarming. And to do it for a garbage school in the Deep South for a coach with a history of cheating is alarming.
Still, he's not a kid from NY who jumped town to a dump like Lance did. As far as I know, Heron wasn't our local to lose. The local star came home to save his program, and I think that means he's here to keep local stars home. Ponds is the key to this class. He's the beginning. F this stupid shit. We don't need a player this stupid.
Honestly, if you weren't so ignorant and senile I might be insulted by you calling a kid stupid, but alas there is a reason so all is forgiven.
He went to Auburn for basketball. If you don't think that's stupid, then you obviously are pretty stupid yourself. Nothing new here. Carry on, local nice person.
You do realize that St. John's and Auburn have the same exact number of NCAA Tournament wins in the last decade right? Auburn also has a head coach that has proved he can win anywhere, our head coach is a question mark. If we beat out Kentucky or Kansas or Duke their fans would call the kid stupid for picking St. John's over their school, and they'd be just as right as you are here
He went to Auburn. No one questions the kid's judgement or honesty when they pick UNC, Duke, GTown, Cal, Stanford, UF etc, but Auburn. Come on! Here, you're in NY. You have MSG.
Mullin may be a new coach, but Pearl is proven to be dirty.
Auburn also has A++++ facilities. Looking at that and then Taffner it doesn't matter what sport you're playing. That's why fans of big conference programs would think a top recruit is stupid for choosing SJU the way you are calling this kid stupid for picking Auburn
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Fellas, just be honest w yourselves and put things in true perspective for crying out loud. Think about the succession of events over the course of the past four months. We have Chris Mullin and his team of elite national recruiters that all have proven, tangible NYC roots on our side. I'm going to ride w these guys from year one to year four, and this is month four. I have enough faith in this proven staff to the point where a Heron commit to a shady SEC school w a proven crooked coach can't sway my confidence in what's truly going on on and off campus. #SJUBB
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The bottom line...and we all know it...is if we don't sign blue chippers we'll be our usual irrelevant selves. I love the crew we have right now. They better get back to the drawing board. And how about some assistants to put them over the top?
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A day later:
@jeffborzello
Five-star guard Terrance Ferguson has committed to Alabama.
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Wasn't worth the hassle guys. He's a great player but this is a new era at St. John's. There is a strong chance there will be two commits within two weeks. One for sure.
Is there one for sure? Great. Who would that be. Sorry for that, but you sort of begged the question.
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Wasn't worth the hassle guys. He's a great player but this is a new era at St. John's. There is a strong chance there will be two commits within two weeks. One for sure.
Would have to think Ponds and Yakwe, would be great to get them this early.
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Would like to thank Dave and several other who follow recruiting. I'm 3200 mile away from Jamaica and closing in on 60 years since I started at SJU. About 3 weeks ago I posted we would get Pound & Ahmed and would lose the other 3.
My guess at a minimum it will at least 2 years before we can compete for the elite high school players.
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Congratulations to Heron...and thanks for not jerking the staffs around for a year as some others have done. Class act!!
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Congratulations to Heron...and thanks for not jerking the staffs around for a year as some others have done. Class act!!
well at least he jumped before the season no need for free tickets
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Can't say I'm happy about loosing Heron. Really wanted him. That said, maybe since Ponds doesn't have to worry about competing w him for PT, we are more enticing.
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Why Auburn?
I thought Heron would be a one and done or a two and done college player. So why Auburn?
While I was disappointed with him not going to St. John's with Slice and Coach Mullin, I still do not see Auburn as his destination.
I would have thought playing under one of the best SG in college history would have only enhanced Heron's chances in the Pro's.
I could see him going to Kentucky where everyone, including the towel guy and ball guy, were drafted. But Auburn?
Does he think that Pearl will let him score 25 points each night, to help his pro contract?
His college choice just does not make sense.
But hey, we are talking about kids making, what amounts to, adult decisions.
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It doesn't sound like Heron made a rash decision without input from his parents. He did what he felt was best for him. Disappointing but we shouldn't knock the kid.
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Heron to St. John's was never really close to happening. It had some potential but it never really gained any momentum. Move on SJU has a lot of good things going on right now.
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Heron to St. John's was never really close to happening. It had some potential but it never really gained any momentum. Move on SJU has a lot of good things going on right now.
Then the staff shouldnt have been saying so...............
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Heron to St. John's was never really close to happening. It had some potential but it never really gained any momentum. Move on SJU has a lot of good things going on right now.
Then the staff shouldnt have been saying so...............
The staff never said anything about Heron. They are not allowed to say anything about potential recruits until they sign. Anything you heard was coming form elsewhere.
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Heron to St. John's was never really close to happening. It had some potential but it never really gained any momentum. Move on SJU has a lot of good things going on right now.
Then the staff shouldnt have been saying so...............
The staff never said anything about Heron. They are not allowed to say anything about potential recruits until they sign. Anything you heard was coming form elsewhere.
Timely response, not! Was hoping to read that Heron decommitted from Auburn. :(
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Heron to St. John's was never really close to happening. It had some potential but it never really gained any momentum. Move on SJU has a lot of good things going on right now.
Then the staff shouldnt have been saying so...............
The staff never said anything about Heron. They are not allowed to say anything about potential recruits until they sign. Anything you heard was coming form elsewhere.
If you want to believe that sure thing.
If you think staff doesn't talk to scribes off the record that's your prerogative.
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Who cares about heron. We lost one option, we work on another. Ponds and Ahmed are equally important for us. Time to just move on IMO.
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Who cares about heron. We lost one option, we work on another. Ponds and Ahmed are equally important for us. Time to just move on IMO.
Exactly. I don't care about this kid. I'm looking forward to never hearing his name again, as he chose a school that no one cares about
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Who cares about heron. We lost one option, we work on another. Ponds and Ahmed are equally important for us. Time to just move on IMO.
Exactly. I don't care about this kid. I'm looking forward to never hearing his name again, as he chose a school that no one cares about
Basketball is behind
Auburn Football
High School football
Auburn Spring practice
Auburn Football recruiting
then they will look at Auburn Basketball
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As appealing as this is we only have one ship left and need a big badly for next season's success.
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Auburn’s Mustapha Heron will withdraw from the NBA Draft and transfer, source says. Story coming later.
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https://twitter.com/chrisgrenham/status/1001822159109611520
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Mustapha Heron is expected to take an official to @StJohnsBBall once he gets his release, per source.
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Heron’s visit could happen as soon as today, per source.
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seems like this will be a good fit for us - yes we need a big badly but at this point it seems like slim pickins
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Looks like Ponds and Heron worked out for the Nuggets together. Did Ponds get in his ear?
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Let’s get this done today! Would be best and deepest backcourt in the country...
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Zags
Mustapha Heron begins his official visit to @StJohnsBBall at 9 a.m. At this point it's his only visit and I expect him to commit there during his visit.
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@NYCHoopsnball
Mustapha Heron begins first visit today, “He’s visiting StJohns at 10am.” Will he commit on the spot? “No” “Tomorrow he is meeting with Tyson Wheeler #Fairfield University and he is hoping to go to #BostonCollege on Saturday” per father Bryan Heron
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Wouldn’t worry about that tweet.
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What are chances he can play right away?
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What are chances he can play right away?
Longshot. The NCAA cracked down on the hardship waiver big-time in the last few years. I keep reading quotes from him, his dad and their camp saying his Mom is "really sick". That's very subjective. I'm thinking it would have to be a near term, fatal disease for them to grant it and not sure that's the case here.
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What are chances he can play right away?
From my understanding he has a strong case for a waiver. It would be a PR nightmare for NCAA if they didn't grant it.
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What are chances he can play right away?
Longshot. The NCAA cracked down on the hardship waiver big-time in the last few years. I keep reading quotes from him, his dad and their camp saying his Mom is "really sick". That's very subjective. I'm thinking it would have to be a near term, fatal disease for them to grant it and not sure that's the case here.
Assuming everything I'm gathering is factual there is legitimacy to this hardship.
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What are chances he can play right away?
Longshot. The NCAA cracked down on the hardship waiver big-time in the last few years. I keep reading quotes from him, his dad and their camp saying his Mom is "really sick". That's very subjective. I'm thinking it would have to be a near term, fatal disease for them to grant it and not sure that's the case here.
Assuming everything I'm gathering is factual there is legitimacy to this hardship.
That would be huge.
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What are chances he can play right away?
Longshot. The NCAA cracked down on the hardship waiver big-time in the last few years. I keep reading quotes from him, his dad and their camp saying his Mom is "really sick". That's very subjective. I'm thinking it would have to be a near term, fatal disease for them to grant it and not sure that's the case here.
Assuming everything I'm gathering is factual there is legitimacy to this hardship.
That would be huge.
So if his mother has a "near term, fatal disease," that would be huge? I know that's not what you meant but it came out a little, I don't know, icky.
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I read the zags writeup. 30+ doctors visits this year and 5+ ER visits. Sounds like he has plenty of paper trail there.
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What are chances he can play right away?
Longshot. The NCAA cracked down on the hardship waiver big-time in the last few years. I keep reading quotes from him, his dad and their camp saying his Mom is "really sick". That's very subjective. I'm thinking it would have to be a near term, fatal disease for them to grant it and not sure that's the case here.
Assuming everything I'm gathering is factual there is legitimacy to this hardship.
That would be huge.
So if his mother has a "near term, fatal disease," that would be huge? I know that's not what you meant but it came out a little, I don't know, icky.
It's very unfortunate but you're right I don't believe that was intent at all. Simply excited for basketball.
Obviously it's not the best of circumstances.
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What are chances he can play right away?
Longshot. The NCAA cracked down on the hardship waiver big-time in the last few years. I keep reading quotes from him, his dad and their camp saying his Mom is "really sick". That's very subjective. I'm thinking it would have to be a near term, fatal disease for them to grant it and not sure that's the case here.
Assuming everything I'm gathering is factual there is legitimacy to this hardship.
That would be huge.
So if his mother has a "near term, fatal disease," that would be huge? I know that's not what you meant but it came out a little, I don't know, icky.
If you knew that wasn't what I meant, then why bother with a snarky comment? Petty.
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So did we land him? I really hope we get this kid. It would take a huge scoring load off of ponds, and give us someone else who can create his own shot.
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If you knew that wasn't what I meant, then why bother with a snarky comment?
Almost the only pleasure I find in life anymore comes from other people's misfortunes. That might be because I'm an unpleasant miserable misanthrope - or it might be why I'm an unpleasant miserable misanthrope. Probably it's all wrapped up together. Anyway, I commented not to be petty, although certainly I am that and worse. I commented - ever so gently and giving you the benefit of the doubt - lest you follow down the same dark path, however unwittingly. I commented because I found what you said unseemly - even if, as I noted - you didn't mean to say what you said in the way that you said it. Because what you said was as callous as things I say when I'm trying to be callous, as I often am, because I'm an unpleasant miserable misanthrope. Huh. It turns out that I was trying to help you see the bigger picture: to save you from yourself. Turns out I'm not such a bad guy after all. Thanks for helping me realize that. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
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Are there little Foads in your house? would love to meet them!
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@NYPost_Brazille
Auburn transfer Mustapha Heron is headed to St. John's, he tells me. Will begin summer classes Monday. Believes he will get hardship waiver to play right away. “With the pieces we have, we definitely can be special." #sjubb
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Signed
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Zach B
Plan is to get the waiver material in ASAP. Confidence Mustapha Heron will be eligible. School may hire a lawyer as well if there is resistance. #subb
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Put him up on the board. Officially a 2018 commit, list him there.
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Great job by staff
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very excited to have Mustapha. Hopefully being close to home gives him peace of mind with his mother. Hopefully SJU and their ties to NewYork-Presbyterian Queens Hospital can be of assistance if need be
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Great job by staff
Matt.
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Big-time addition. Now let's get him eligible for next season. Great job by Matt and staff.
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A landmark day for the program. One of the highest rated players that we've had on campus in the era of online player rankings. Hardship granted we form one of the best front court tandems assembled in the history of our program, potentially 3 NBA prospects in Justin, Shamorie and MH.
Our depth chart just got that much more versatile and the pressure to dance in March is now through the roof. March or bust. Big East Saturday Night or bust. Get your season tickets now while you can. Props to Matt and the entire staff, WE ARE.
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Watched him a bunch this year. He played the 4 for Auburn regularly. He’ll be great next to Simon/Clark/Figueroa in “small ball” lineup.
Get him eligible and we are cookin
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Might as well watch some highlights... vs UConn...😂😂
https://youtu.be/QuwZnmGtFIc
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Watched him a bunch this year. He played the 4 for Auburn regularly. He’ll be great next to Simon/Clark/Figueroa in “small ball” lineup.
Get him eligible and we are cookin
Honestly can’t even call it “small ball”. All those guys are 6’5” or above and strong, athletic players. We are built a bit more like a Nova team actually now, without maybe one more good big guy up front. Our depth at spots 1-4 is fantastic... and it’s skilled depth.
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Zach B posted waiver guidelines;
https://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm
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Biggest week for the program in quite some time. I'm kind of expecting something terrible to happen because multiple good things like this happening in such a short amount of time aren't the norm around these parts
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Zach B posted waiver guidelines;
https://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm
As a medical practitioner, the NCAA wanting to sort through his mom’s “hefty” medical record seems entirely wrong to me. Maybe they need a diagnosis, a letter and history of visits to the doctor, but having to look through her charts as laypeople? Absurd imho.. it’s for a waiver to play a sport.
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Watched him a bunch this year. He played the 4 for Auburn regularly. He’ll be great next to Simon/Clark/Figueroa in “small ball” lineup.
Get him eligible and we are cookin
Shorter arrest?
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Watched him a bunch this year. He played the 4 for Auburn regularly. He’ll be great next to Simon/Clark/Figueroa in “small ball” lineup.
Get him eligible and we are cookin
Shorter arrest?
He’s nothing like Artest. He’s a huge SG that can handle with both hands. He’s not your average “good” recruit. His physical size, strength at SG is blue-chip stuff. More like Rashad McCants from UNC a few years back, and Heron is bigger.
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Great job by staff
Matt.
Amen!!! Next up Mike Rice!
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This is awesome! If Heron gets the waiver and is eligible NOW I agree this may be one of the most talented rosters we've had in the last 20 years
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Don't want to get ahead of myself here but with Heron's quotes that he would be ok sitting out a year and wants to get his degree make me think that he won't necessarily bolt to the NBA next year
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Don't want to get ahead of myself here but with Heron's quotes that he would be ok sitting out a year and wants to get his degree make me think that he won't necessarily bolt to the NBA next year
He said he’s in it for the long run and seems really straight-up. He said sit out or not he’s here. Could always change, but I like him addressing it right off the bat..
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wow! great news! Good luck to Mustapha and prayers for his Mother. Hopefully she sees better health in the future.
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Welcome Gil Scott!
If eligible my favorite basketball player of all-time and one of my personal heroes would appear to have a legitimate shot at coaching success.
Nothing would please me more.
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Watched him a bunch this year. He played the 4 for Auburn regularly. He’ll be great next to Simon/Clark/Figueroa in “small ball” lineup.
Get him eligible and we are cookin
Shorter arrest?
He’s nothing like Artest. He’s a huge SG that can handle with both hands. He’s not your average “good” recruit. His physical size, strength at SG is blue-chip stuff. More like Rashad McCants from UNC a few years back, and Heron is bigger.
Ok thanks.
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Zach B posted waiver guidelines;
https://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm
Sounds tricky. By no means does it sound like a lock
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Watched him a bunch this year. He played the 4 for Auburn regularly. He’ll be great next to Simon/Clark/Figueroa in “small ball” lineup.
Get him eligible and we are cookin
Shorter arrest?
He’s nothing like Artest. He’s a huge SG that can handle with both hands. He’s not your average “good” recruit. His physical size, strength at SG is blue-chip stuff. More like Rashad McCants from UNC a few years back, and Heron is bigger.
Sounds very much like Artest. A little shorter but can handle, shoot, and board.
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Zach B posted waiver guidelines;
https://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm
Sounds tricky. By no means does it sound like a lock
Make a call to Grasso and ask for some advice
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Zach B posted waiver guidelines;
https://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm
Sounds tricky. By no means does it sound like a lock
Looks like we're getting into Orlando Sanchez territory again.
We'd be luck to get Heron playing by the time Big East schedule starts.
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First let me say i wish the best for his mother. This kid picking St. Johns benefits us ten fold. Having a kid of this caliber looks great for next years recruits, and if he's eligible we might have the best backcourt in NYC! I think Simon will log a decent amount of minutes at the 4 this year with our personnel.
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Official SJU release:
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/060418aaa.html
Picture, 1st day of class.
https://twitter.com/mabde33/status/1003641336757653504
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JayBilas/status/1013531412182511617
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They granted this kid from Georgia a hardship waiver in about only 3 weeks...https://twitter.com/SethWEmerson/status/1028028282149777411?s=19
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They granted this kid from Georgia a hardship waiver in about only 3 weeks...https://twitter.com/SethWEmerson/status/1028028282149777411?s=19
Big dogs gotta eat!
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Take this fwiw but 3! players were granted waivers today:
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NC State's Blake Harris has received a waiver from the NCAA and will be eligible for the entire 18-19 season, per release.
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Miami's Anthony Mack has received a waiver from the NCAA and is eligible to play during the 2018-19 season, per release.
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HUGE, HUGE, HUGE NEWS for @FGCU_MBB: @hcheatham_22, who averaged 10 pts and was the #Marquette defensive MVP, 2-yr starter and All-Big East FR, will be eligible from this season's tip. Eagles were able to get hardship waiver. Story soon. #DunkCity #WingsUp #FGCU @FGCUDirtyBirds