6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2014 Class => Topic started by: paultzman on May 16, 2014, 03:03:08 PM
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@JonRothstein: Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter will visit St. John's on Sunday, source told @CBSSports. South Carolina and Maryland also in mix. #SJUBB
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/robert-carter-talks-about-why-he-left-georgia-tech/nfxpK/ (http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/robert-carter-talks-about-why-he-left-georgia-tech/nfxpK/)
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@JonRothstein: Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter will visit St. John's on Sunday, source told @CBSSports. South Carolina and Maryland also in mix. #SJUBB
espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/play...607/robert-carter-jr
Georgia connection of Chuck Mitchell and Trayvon Reed might help Turgeon snag Carter. Terps need serious help at the PF slot going into 2015 season.
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Marillac will not like this part of article;
"St. John's hopes the Red Storm program will have an appeal for a player like Carter. Stave Lavin's scheme allows big men to take deep shots (think of Orlando Sanchez' role or Jakarr Sampson's shot selection), and Lavin can sell a track record of getting players to the professional ranks."
Who knows, lol. His rebounding stats are good.
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/5/16/5724542/st-johns-recruiting-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/5/16/5724542/st-johns-recruiting-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter)
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Wow...kid looks like a tank... 11 and 7 in ACC competition is pretty damn good.. Love to grab this kid..
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he played decently against us back in november
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assuming he would have to sit a year?
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assuming he would have to sit a year?
Why wouldn’t he?
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Wow...kid looks like a tank... 11 and 7 in ACC competition is pretty damn good.. Love to grab this kid..
Carter finished the last six ACC games after his injury with 16/8 per... He has a really nice shot, and likes being physical down low.
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assuming he would have to sit a year?
Why wouldn’t he?
Maybe he has a sick great Aunt in woodside
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assuming he would have to sit a year?
Why wouldn’t he?
Maybe he has a sick great Aunt in woodside
Ha ha...
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@JonRothstein: Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter will visit St. John's on Sunday, source told @CBSSports. South Carolina and Maryland also in mix. #SJUBB
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/robert-carter-talks-about-why-he-left-georgia-tech/nfxpK/ (http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/robert-carter-talks-about-why-he-left-georgia-tech/nfxpK/)
Sunday is graduation day at SJU. Unlikely he visits that day but according to Zags he is set to visit soon:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-jr-visiting-st-johns-in-near-future/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-jr-visiting-st-johns-in-near-future/)
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@JonRothstein: Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter will visit St. John's on Sunday, source told @CBSSports. South Carolina and Maryland also in mix. #SJUBB
espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/play...607/robert-carter-jr
Georgia connection of Chuck Mitchell and Trayvon Reed might help Turgeon snag Carter. Terps need serious help at the PF slot going into 2015 season.
BTW-You want to know a connection between SJU, MD and South Carolina? They are all Under Armour schools...Interesting.
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This kid is a BEAST….he has so much potential its scary. Don't care what his stats were coaches think he has program changing ability and he is a high priority.
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This kid is a BEAST….he has so much potential its scary. Don't care what his stats were coaches think he has program changing ability and he is a high priority.
You like our chances?
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 3m
Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter visits St. John's beginning tonight, source confirms to @SNYtv
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How about that
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This kid is a BEAST….he has so much potential its scary. Don't care what his stats were coaches think he has program changing ability and he is a high priority.
You like our chances?
MD recruited him hard out of HS, wound up getting Chuck Mitchell. That being said, I'm guessing Lavin and Turge are selling him hard on NYC and DC, and all the good exposure he'll get. Or Carter gets to play for the maniac.
http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.barstoolu.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/03/deathstare.gif (http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.barstoolu.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/03/deathstare.gif)
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How close is UMD to DC?
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How close is UMD to DC?
Pretty close, the Metro actually goes to College Park.
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How close is UMD to DC?
Pretty close, the Metro actually goes to College Park.
Yep - a UMD shuttle takes one to campus within 3 min. There has been talk for a while to extend Metro right through campus, but not approved yet. Good and bad to that idea imo.
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Here's the word from a GT fan, LilBroey700, that posted on (UMD) Testudo Times board:
"A few are speculating about his size and ability to be a post player and all that. I’ll tell you they shouldn’t be concerns. He has the capabilities to be a versatile #4 type of player. Solid all-around game, both inside and out on both ACC in rebounding for a while this season. May need some work on his offense down near the basket, but again, solid all-around. He would’ve been the best player on our team next year, and at times this year he played like a guy deserving of an All-ACC nod. You’ll be very lucky to have him if Maryland is where he picks.
Also, word around the water cooler is that Maryland is the favorite. Apparently a lot of this is being driven by his AAU coach, and apparently there’s some draw to Under Armour there that puts Maryland out front. Will be interesting to see what happens."
My Conclusion - UA is the only reason Frank Martin was considered - lol. Two team race - if SJ's has Carter, he will be a force down low on O and D, the all around player desperately needed for years. Then again, MD hasn't had a top notch PF in years either.
http://www.testudotimes.com/2014/5/16/5724456/richaud-pack-robert-carter-transfer-rumors-maryland#234766011 (http://www.testudotimes.com/2014/5/16/5724456/richaud-pack-robert-carter-transfer-rumors-maryland#234766011)
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How about that
[/How about that
Who are you, Mel Allen?
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Marillac will not like this part of article;
"St. John's hopes the Red Storm program will have an appeal for a player like Carter. Stave Lavin's scheme allows big men to take deep shots (think of Orlando Sanchez' role or Jakarr Sampson's shot selection), and Lavin can sell a track record of getting players to the professional ranks."
Who knows, lol. His rebounding stats are good.
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/5/16/5724542/st-johns-recruiting-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/5/16/5724542/st-johns-recruiting-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter)
If he can get 8 boards a game, I could live with a handful of jumpers in the right situation. I didn't have a problem with Brownlee. What can't stand is when they live out there and don't move (I'm looking at you Pointer).
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"If all goes well, it’s possible he won’t take any more visits and could commit to the Johnnies tomorrow when he leaves the Queens school or later this week."
http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/)
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"If all goes well, it’s possible he won’t take any more visits and could commit to the Johnnies tomorrow when he leaves the Queens school or later this week."
http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/)
I know he is not eligible immediately but this would be a GIGANTIC get. He is an established high major big man who has been a stud since high school.
They can then go after Diallo with some room for error.
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Agreed fordham. This could be huge. He's a consensus top-50 big out of high school who, more importantly, proved he could get it done in the acc (I haven't watched him much, but his numbers look great for a soph). Great to balance the classes a bit too. How can we not be excited about this possibility, unless you want to perpetuate the "lavin is a bad recruiter" narrative?
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"If all goes well, it’s possible he won’t take any more visits and could commit to the Johnnies tomorrow when he leaves the Queens school or later this week."
http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/)
I know he is not eligible immediately but this would be a GIGANTIC get. He is an established high major big man who has been a stud since high school.
They can then go after Diallo with some room for error.
Agree. A proven athletic 4 man. Would be a fantastic pickup.
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would balance the classes a bit more also than taking all those 2015 recruits as true freshman
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Carter > Lawrence any day of the week. This would be a huge addition. Thomas and Carter together on the court would be something. 2015 would start looking a lot better.
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Carter and Lawrence don't belong in the same breath, No disrespect to anybody but Carter has lottery potential.
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Carter and Lawrence don't belong in the same breath, No disrespect to anybody but Carter has lottery potential.
Wow. Didn't realize he was that good.
Hopefully we can lock him up
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Carter and Lawrence don't belong in the same breath, No disrespect to anybody but Carter has lottery potential.
He's a stud and an established big time talent. Also a great attitude.
The reason people got excited about Lawrence was his "potential" but even more than that was the idea he could play next year because of a waiver. But yeah take away the waiver and it is not even close in terms of proven production right now. Carter by a mile.
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Well, to state the obvious, let's hope we get a different result with Carter than with Lawrence.
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Carter is a proven player and still has a ton to show out. He's big, strong, athletic and can be a force. He and Thomas can be beastly on the boards and getting the ball down low. I wish. We had him this year, but I'll take him going forward. He's a premier PF.
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Carter is a proven player and still has a ton to show out. He's big, strong, athletic and can be a force. He and Thomas can be beastly on the boards and getting the ball down low. I wish. We had him this year, but I'll take him going forward. He's a premier PF.
Carter can bring MCNPA back from the dark side!
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If you're comparing Lawrence to Carter Jr, is that even an appropriate comparison? Isn't one a 3 and the other a 4? One guy is a freshman who is coming off a season where he missed significant time with an injury, and the other, a soph, put up very good numbers. Not amazing numbers, but very good. Time will tell.
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This guy sounds better than Lawrence did a week ago
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This guy sounds better than Lawrence did a week ago
Based off his stats and the accolades he has received, it would seem he is. Never watched him play, so I wouldn't know. If he doesn't commit to SJU, I hope he's prepared to hear how horrible a basketball player and person he is :p
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If you're comparing Lawrence to Carter Jr, is that even an appropriate comparison? Isn't one a 3 and the other a 4? One guy is a freshman who is coming off a season where he missed significant time with an injury, and the other, a soph, put up very good numbers. Not amazing numbers, but very good. Time will tell.
Agreed. Sight unseen Carter seems like a steal. Lawrence is just a bunch of headaches.
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As great as Carter is he has the propensity to get out of shape and he can be a bit lazy at times. In this instance I think the year away from the game will help.
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As great as Carter is he has the propensity to get out of shape and he can be a bit lazy at times. In this instance I think the year away from the game will help.
You think he ends up here?
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As great as Carter is he has the propensity to get out of shape
He and Adonis can be weight watcher buddies.
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As great as Carter is he has the propensity to get out of shape
He and Adonis can be weight watcher buddies.
Throw in JDR and Christian Jones. Big boys...should be sponsored by Campbell's Chunky.
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Rarely "bad" except a Jarvis led visit;
@AdamZagoria: Robert Carter Jr. has finished his visit to #sjubb and his AAU coach Winfred Jordan said it was "good." Stay tuned for more.
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going into visit staff was confident, havent spoken to anybody since he's been here but my guess is St Johns
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going into visit staff was confident, havent spoken to anybody since he's been here but my guess is St Johns
Always appreciate your opinion SJU79!
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going into visit staff was confident, havent spoken to anybody since he's been here but my guess is St Johns
Always appreciate your opinion SJU79!
would be nice to get some good news for a change
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going into visit staff was confident, havent spoken to anybody since he's been here but my guess is St Johns
That would be fantastic. Instant impact in practice for the bigs.
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Some people on the GT site think he may not transfer, although I don't know we're they got their info from.
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Some people on the GT site think he may not transfer, although I don't know we're they got their info from.
Can someone even take a visit to another school then decide not to transfer? I would think the NCAA wouldn't allow that.
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My guess it would be fair game if he got his outright release but that would def cause lots of probs if kids started doing that. Atleast in co case, he never went to see another school.
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Get the feeling this ship has sailed.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Based on what?
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Thanks, Dave Very encouraging!
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Thanks, Dave Very encouraging!
But again Dave, based on what ? Should we be expecting a verbal as was talked about after his visit, ie. he possibly wouldn't be taking any other trips per his AAU coach.
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"If all goes well, it’s possible he won’t take any more visits and could commit to the Johnnies tomorrow when he leaves the Queens school or later this week."
http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/robert-carter-could-decide-after-st-johns-visit/)
I know he is not eligible immediately but this would be a GIGANTIC get. He is an established high major big man who has been a stud since high school.
They can then go after Diallo with some room for error.
Gigantic in the sense that I think Carter is the best transfer "fit" for SJ's. I really can't lose on him if he goes to MD or SJ's. I really want SJ's to land Carter because we need him worse for the upward mobility of the program. Carter can change a LOT in two years, maybe even helping sway some of the other big recruits towards the beautiful city campus of SJ's. Fingers crossed.
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Obedka visited with Donavan at Florida after he got his release. Then decided to stay here.
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Obedka visited with Donavan at Florida after he got his release. Then decided to stay here.
I remember the name Florida coming up, but don't recall him visiting the School.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Thanks, Dave Very encouraging!
But again Dave, based on what ? Should we be expecting a verbal as was talked about after his visit, ie. he possibly wouldn't be taking any other trips per his AAU coach.
I read Carter is still going to Texas and Baylor. Scott Drew needs to get in his "all the other coaches suck because" spiel.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Purist, has he visited Maryland yet? see they lost Mitchell today also.
Thanks, Dave Very encouraging!
But again Dave, based on what ? Should we be expecting a verbal as was talked about after his visit, ie. he possibly wouldn't be taking any other trips per his AAU coach.
I read Carter is still going to Texas and Baylor. Scott Drew needs to get in his "all the other coaches suck because" spiel.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Sorry about the duplication, Purist I thought he was to visit Maryland also, is that true? Mitchell left today, that's 5 transfer this year!
Purist, has he visited Maryland yet? see they lost Mitchell today also.
Thanks, Dave Very encouraging!
But again Dave, based on what ? Should we be expecting a verbal as was talked about after his visit, ie. he possibly wouldn't be taking any other trips per his AAU coach.
I read Carter is still going to Texas and Baylor. Scott Drew needs to get in his "all the other coaches suck because" spiel.
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Obedka visited with Donavan at Florida after he got his release. Then decided to stay here.
Coach Donovan probably told Obekpa he'd come off the bench. He doesn't take any bullshit, ask Mike Rosario or Eli Carter.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Based on what?
My knowledge. Lots of positive factors behind this.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Hearing Boston College and Providence have expressed interest in Niagara transfer Antoine Mason, along with several other high majors.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Based on what?
My knowledge. Lots of positive factors behind this.
That's great to hear. Although MD got even thinner up front with Mitchell transferring today.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Based on what?
My knowledge. Lots of positive factors behind this.
Good enough source for me.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Based on what?
My knowledge. Lots of positive factors behind this.
Good enough source for me.
I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Based on what?
My knowledge. Lots of positive factors behind this.
Good enough source for me.
Me too but Dave can you close the deal already. I'm getting nervous. :)
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Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter will visit Maryland on June 2, his former AAU coach, Winfred Jordan, told InsideMDSports.com.
Carter, a 6-foot-8, 247-pound power forward, is also considering St. John's, Kansas and South Carolina, Jordan said. The former McDonald's all-American, who averaged 11.4 points and 8.4 rebounds last season as a sophomore, recently visit St. John's.
maryland.247sports.com/Board/67/Contents...it-Maryland-28806378
Was not a McD AA btw.
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@AdamZagoria: Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter Jr. may visit Maryland June 2, but nothing set in stone, source tells @SNY.tv. Recently visited #sjubb.
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@AdamZagoria: Georgia Tech transfer Robert Carter Jr. may visit Maryland June 2, but nothing set in stone, source tells @SNY.tv. Recently visited #sjubb.
Jeff Ermann confirmed June 2nd yesterday.
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Georgia-Tech-Transfer-Robert-Carter-to-Visit-Maryland-28806378 (http://247sports.com/Bolt/Georgia-Tech-Transfer-Robert-Carter-to-Visit-Maryland-28806378)
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Zags' tweet was after Erman's.
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Dave, insiders, do you all remain confident in our chances?
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As I said on a different site. This is a kid from Georgia/South looking at his second college and potentially moving hundreds of miles away from home.
He wants to be sure. Throw in the fact that it has been a dead period from 5/22 thru Friday meaning no visits allowed there is nothing unusual about what he is doing. Need to let it play out.
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Sound familiar?
@insidemdsports: Prized transfer Robert Carter Jr. tells t.co/CL4vgvygmq he could commit to #Terps if visit goes well.
Inside Md. Sports blog.
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Very - exactly what he said before SJU visit.
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Does not look very promising for St Johns. After a mad rush with the Chicago kids, Lawrence, rumors of Carter and Faust, all we have is Thomas at this point.
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Carter would be a game-changer for 2015. I won't get my hopes up, but it'd sure be nice.
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Carter is confirmed for a visit next week at UMD. His coach is quoted as saying, "He thought the chance to play his home games at Madison Square Garden was unbelievable,” Jordan said. “It’s a big market, and Robert is a Southern kid [from Thomasville, Ga.], and those kind of things impress you.”[/size]
Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bal-former-georgia-tech-forward-robert-carter-to-visit-maryland-20140529,0,7284589.story#ixzz33Igu6yk8 (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bal-former-georgia-tech-forward-robert-carter-to-visit-maryland-20140529,0,7284589.story#ixzz33Igu6yk8)
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If he is has to visit MD which he has decided to do. A visit with few kids on campus post finals should play in our favor. Keep the faith. Lav will close!
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http://www.gogamecocks.com/2014/06/01/598475/house-to-another-sec-team-while.html# (http://www.gogamecocks.com/2014/06/01/598475/house-to-another-sec-team-while.html#)
Wrapped up visit with USC yesterday visiting Maryland tomorrow.
For the record both Maryland and SJU have summer sessions starting today 6/2.
SJU has Session 1 running from today thru July 7th. Session 2 runnning from July 9th thru August 12th.
Maryland has from today thru 7/11. Session 2 is 7/14 thru 8/22.
So obviously wherever he goes it will be Session 2.
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Stating the obvious, but each college in consideration is an UnderArmour school.
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Md. site, anyone?
@insidemdsports: Robert Carter Jr. #Terps official visit update, including an interesting quote from his coach. http://t.co/yRi8n6XHcD (http://t.co/yRi8n6XHcD) (VIP)
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"Carter visit is going very well. From what I hear, parents are blown away by the area and feel MD gives him every chance succeed. It is ironic how some kids that want to leave the area is the exact same reason why others want to come. Carter is from the middle of nowhere Georgia and wants to experience life in a big city. If we get him, the Big 10 move is a huge reason why."
http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Contents/Welcome-to-Maryland-Robert-Carter-Goodvibes-Thread-28911800?Page=2 (http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Contents/Welcome-to-Maryland-Robert-Carter-Goodvibes-Thread-28911800?Page=2)
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"Carter visit is going very well. From what I hear, parents are blown away by the area and feel MD gives him every chance succeed. It is ironic how some kids that want to leave the area is the exact same reason why others want to come. Carter is from the middle of nowhere Georgia and wants to experience life in a big city. If we get him, the Big 10 move is a huge reason why."
http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Contents/Welcome-to-Maryland-Robert-Carter-Goodvibes-Thread-28911800?Page=2 (http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/53/Contents/Welcome-to-Maryland-Robert-Carter-Goodvibes-Thread-28911800?Page=2)
Just got on site from all day HS alumni event. Will dig to see if i find other quotes/info.
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Probably usual nonsense, but anyone?
@insidemdsports: Robert Carter Jr. "Thought the world of Mark Turgeon" on visit:
http://t.co/D159q6llcT (http://t.co/D159q6llcT)
(VIP -- FREE all summer w/new annual #Terps subs)
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http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#story/bal-insidemdsports-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter-has-great-visit-to-maryland-former-coach-says-20140605/ (http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#story/bal-insidemdsports-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter-has-great-visit-to-maryland-former-coach-says-20140605/)
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http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#story/bal-insidemdsports-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter-has-great-visit-to-maryland-former-coach-says-20140605/ (http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#story/bal-insidemdsports-georgia-tech-transfer-robert-carter-has-great-visit-to-maryland-former-coach-says-20140605/)
Sounds Maryland bound.
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I'd be very surprised if he doesn't wind up at St. John's.
Maryland bound. What happened?
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swing and a miss
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Rothstein and ESPN - Carter to Terps.
Carter could have helped more here. It was a tough pull considering Carter almost committed to MD the first time. Plus, it's hard enough prying GA guys up north.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/474927807022530561
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sounds to me like Carter liked that there are already concrete plans (committed players) at Maryland for 2015. He knows who he'll be playing with. Versus us, where we lose the core of our team after this season. (and i don't want to hear that Jordan and Obekpa will be around in '15).
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Not dissing obekpa but why would he be such a loss . I think he is gone next year also . We have a year to replace him. I don't think he is bad but I don't think he is good. He is the most overrated player we have ever had.
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@insidemdsports: Despite rumors about Auburn, Robert Carter Jr. told me St. John's was actually the other finalist w/ Terps. #sjubb
http://t.co/9deU8KL8MX (http://t.co/9deU8KL8MX)
Nice effort by staff, but no cigar. Onward!
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Not dissing obekpa but why would he be such a loss . I think he is gone next year also . We have a year to replace him. I don't think he is bad but I don't think he is good. He is the most overrated player we have ever had.
I don't think he's overrated at all. We are a completely different team defensively with him on the court.
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Sick another guy we didn't get....... Can't wait to land a bunch of 3 stars and JUCOs for the class of 2015 and people try to spin that into a success....
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sounds to me like Carter liked that there are already concrete plans (committed players) at Maryland for 2015. He knows who he'll be playing with. Versus us, where we lose the core of our team after this season. (and i don't want to hear that Jordan and Obekpa will be around in '15).
MD lost 5 players this year, so what are the odds all their committed players stick? I happen to like Turgeon too.
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Sick another guy we didn't get....... Can't wait to land a bunch of 3 stars and JUCOs for the class of 2015 and people try to spin that into a success....
LOL and if we never got in the discussion with this guy at all you wouldn't have cared. There are still tons of big fish in 2015, which makes your above statement ridiculous.
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sounds to me like Carter liked that there are already concrete plans (committed players) at Maryland for 2015. He knows who he'll be playing with. Versus us, where we lose the core of our team after this season. (and i don't want to hear that Jordan and Obekpa will be around in '15).
But how about the 5 players leaving their program. How come that kind of negative doesn't affect other schools the way it would've hurt us.
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Sick another guy we didn't get....... Can't wait to land a bunch of 3 stars and JUCOs for the class of 2015 and people try to spin that into a success....
LOL and if we never got in the discussion with this guy at all you wouldn't have cared. There are still tons of big fish in 2015, which makes your above statement ridiculous.
Landing Carter could've anchored our 2015 recruiting. Eventually we're going to go head to head with Kentucky, or the like, for Briscoe. We need to have some bullets in our gun for that.
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Not dissing obekpa but why would he be such a loss . I think he is gone next year also . We have a year to replace him. I don't think he is bad but I don't think he is good. He is the most overrated player we have ever had.
I don't think he's overrated at all. We are a completely different team defensively with him on the court.
He is a great shot blocker. I dont think he is even a good post defender. Stronger guys kill him. Since everyone is stronger then him I think he he gets beat plenty. I like Charles Oakley types.
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Where do we go from here? Could be looking at 8 scholarships available in '15 and I can't even identify 8 targets who are being actively recruited at this stage.
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Not dissing obekpa but why would he be such a loss . I think he is gone next year also . We have a year to replace him. I don't think he is bad but I don't think he is good. He is the most overrated player we have ever had.
I don't think he's overrated at all. We are a completely different team defensively with him on the court.
He is a great shot blocker. I dont think he is even a good post defender. Stronger guys kill him. Since everyone is stronger then him I think he he gets beat plenty. I like Charles Oakley types.
He may get beat by bigger guys, but guards are afraid to take it to the home knowing he's there.
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sounds to me like Carter liked that there are already concrete plans (committed players) at Maryland for 2015. He knows who he'll be playing with. Versus us, where we lose the core of our team after this season. (and i don't want to hear that Jordan and Obekpa will be around in '15).
But how about the 5 players leaving their program. How come that kind of negative doesn't affect other schools the way it would've hurt us.
It is a negative, but taken in context, Carter looked at who he is playing with in '15-'16. He knows the '14 class is loaded (Trimble is going to be terrific) and will combine with him and Layman to be solid.
Of course, transfers are the soup du jour, and this can change by the time Carter suits up. Considering Carter already had the Terps in his final list the first time, the staff almost pulled it off. The need was greater here, but so be it.
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Not dissing obekpa but why would he be such a loss . I think he is gone next year also . We have a year to replace him. I don't think he is bad but I don't think he is good. He is the most overrated player we have ever had.
Obekpa would have been a huge loss...much bigger than Sampson IMO. First, he can play the five. The four in college is so much more easily replaced. Teams have been successful with SFs at the four and even guards in small lineups. Certain zones like the 2-3 or 1-3-1 can almost completely hide a smaller guy at the four.
Too much was made about Obekpa his freshman year. I was not a big fan despite the block totals. I felt he should have been a 10-15 mpg guy max on a team with the proper depth. This past season he really improved. His post defnse was better,he put on a lot of size and strength (pretty much the only player to do so), he showed some offense for the first time, he screened well (most of the time) and his rebounding and positioning were much improved. Did that improvement make him an all-conference player last year? No, but if he's not this season, he'll be close. We would have been screwed withou thim. I expect him to add about 10 more pounds of muscle, develop his offense a little more, and just play smarter overall. The way the season ended should be a big learning experience for him to take into the off-season.
Carter would have been huge for 2015. He would have been a great fit next to CO and/or Diallo, and he would have been a solid veteran to lead the way. Oh well.
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@insidemdsports: Despite rumors about Auburn, Robert Carter Jr. told me St. John's was actually the other finalist w/ Terps. #sjubb
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Nice effort by staff, but no cigar. Onward!
Sweet, second place!
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Oh well, would've been nice, but I don't fault the staff for this. No one knew we were after Carter two months ago, and bringing him up north would've been a difficult sell.
This year's recruiting will be all about Briscoe and diallo. No surprise there