Bubble Watch

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #120 on: March 08, 2015, 01:04:27 AM »
Illinois State looking to steal a bid in the MVC

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2015, 09:43:29 AM »
Yesterday, SMU defeated Tulsa and Northern Iowa fought off Illinois St.  Tulsa will need a run in the American Tournament, Northern Iowa saved a bubble team from elimination.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #122 on: March 09, 2015, 09:47:34 AM »
3/9/15

Championship games:

CAA - Northeastern (22-11) @ William & Mary (20-11)

SoCon - Furman (11-21) @ Wofford (27-6)

MAAC - Manhattan (18-13) @ Iona (26-7)

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #123 on: March 09, 2015, 09:56:49 AM »
How many bids normally get stolen?  Any stolen so far this year?  Are we 100% in?

Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #124 on: March 09, 2015, 10:18:09 AM »
We are a lock.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #125 on: March 09, 2015, 10:18:48 AM »
3/9/15

Championship games:

CAA - Northeastern (22-11) @ William & Mary (20-11)

SoCon - Furman (11-21) @ Wofford (27-6)

MAAC - Manhattan (18-13) @ Iona (26-7)

Does Iona have any shot at a bid if they lose?
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #126 on: March 09, 2015, 10:19:58 AM »
3/9/15

Championship games:

CAA - Northeastern (22-11) @ William & Mary (20-11)

SoCon - Furman (11-21) @ Wofford (27-6)

MAAC - Manhattan (18-13) @ Iona (26-7)

Its a shame at 27 and 26 wins, teams have to win the conference tourney to get in

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #127 on: March 09, 2015, 10:39:14 AM »
3/9/15

Championship games:

CAA - Northeastern (22-11) @ William & Mary (20-11)

SoCon - Furman (11-21) @ Wofford (27-6)

MAAC - Manhattan (18-13) @ Iona (26-7)

Does Iona have any shot at a bid if they lose?
Its a shame at 27 and 26 wins, teams have to win the conference tourney to get in
No shot.  Wofford would be much closer though (NC State, Iona, 1-2 top 50, 3-4 top 100, not as many bad losses).  Iona is nowhere near the at-large field with 4 sub 150 losses and no top 100 wins.
If we played 25 sub 150 opponents like Iona did we'd have 30+ wins.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #128 on: March 09, 2015, 10:41:02 AM »
How many bids normally get stolen?  Any stolen so far this year?  Are we 100% in?
I think there was an ESPN article on this recently, and if I remember correctly it's roughly 1-3 bids stolen each year.

Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #129 on: March 09, 2015, 10:50:53 AM »
3/9/15

Championship games:

CAA - Northeastern (22-11) @ William & Mary (20-11)

SoCon - Furman (11-21) @ Wofford (27-6)

MAAC - Manhattan (18-13) @ Iona (26-7)

Does Iona have any shot at a bid if they lose?
Its a shame at 27 and 26 wins, teams have to win the conference tourney to get in
No shot.  Wofford would be much closer though (NC State, Iona, 1-2 top 50, 3-4 top 100, not as many bad losses).  Iona is nowhere near the at-large field with 4 sub 150 losses and no top 100 wins.
If we played 25 sub 150 opponents like Iona did we'd have 30+ wins.

Regular season means nothing. Shame.

MAAC sucked this year, more than usual.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #130 on: March 09, 2015, 12:27:27 PM »
Baldi I'd love to see Iona do well, but their best win was @ Wake Forest.  They had two chances for a top 50 win and lost by a combined 30 points.  26 wins is something...except that, like I said, 21 of them were against sub 150 teams (Error in my previous post.  They had 21 sub 150 wins, not 25).  You can make the argument all you want that no big time schools will play them, but there are plenty of mid-majors for them to schedule that they chose not to.  Cluess made the mistake of a bad non-con schedule, and even worse, they didn't take advantage of any of their limited opportunities.  They also lost to 4 shite teams.  I will reiterate, Iona is not even close to an at-large.

Wofford at least beat a couple of good teams, and scheduled tough (18 non-con SOS).  They did lose to Citadel, one of the worst teams in D1.  They will be in my final bracketology, somewhere around the next four out (unless they beat Furman to win their tourney). Had they beaten Citadel, they might have ended up as an at-large, depending on who you asked.

Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #131 on: March 09, 2015, 12:38:06 PM »
So like I said regular season doesn't matter

Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #132 on: March 09, 2015, 12:48:03 PM »
So like I said regular season doesn't matter

For bad conferences it doesn't...part of the magic of march madness though...anyone can make it
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #133 on: March 09, 2015, 12:52:50 PM »
Take care of business and they're in...if they don't they don't deserve to be in.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #134 on: March 09, 2015, 12:59:40 PM »
So like I said regular season doesn't matter
It does if your coach schedules well.  Obviously it's easier for major conference teams, but it's certainly possible for low-mid majors.  Only one to blame for Iona's lack of a profile is Cluess and his players.  He should take a page out of Long Beach St.'s book and play a bunch of high majors in the non-con.  Win some of them, and run through your league, and you'll have no problems getting in.  The players should've won the opportunities they had (or at least a couple of them) and should not have lost to so many bad teams.  Bottom line is, Iona just isn't good enough.

Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #135 on: March 09, 2015, 12:59:50 PM »
So like I said regular season doesn't matter

For bad conferences it doesn't...part of the magic of march madness though...anyone can make it

I think regular season winners should get a bid. Not Just NIT.  Instead a team who finishes 6th in their league gets a bid?

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #136 on: March 09, 2015, 01:01:38 PM »
So like I said regular season doesn't matter

For bad conferences it doesn't...part of the magic of march madness though...anyone can make it

I think regular season winners should get a bid. Not Just NIT.  Instead a team who finishes 6th in their league gets a bid?
I think the idea had been tossed around.  One of the reasons the conference tournaments are so important is that they are the closest comparison to the NCAA tournament.  If a team can't beat the likes of Sienna, Manhattan, et al in a tournament setting, why should the committee think they can beat Duke, Kentucky, Iowa, Oklahoma, Northern Iowa, etc?

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #137 on: March 09, 2015, 01:02:56 PM »
 This is why they will eventually ruin the Tourney by expanding it to 100+ teams..    A matter of time, IMO.. 

Someone is always going to feel left off no matter what.   Don't have a conference tourney if regular season champ gets a bid.  Can't have 2 automatic bids for shit conferences.. 

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #138 on: March 09, 2015, 01:07:40 PM »
God I hope not....
I think Boeheim was a proponent of adding teams.  I hope his say won't carry as much weight any more...

Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #139 on: March 09, 2015, 01:11:57 PM »
But like it was said earlier, this is a good chance for smaller schools to beat the big schools who normally don't play. What good is it putting teams like Xavier, Indiana, NC state etc in when they don't even finish top 5 in their conference.?