6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marillac on January 06, 2019, 01:30:00 PM
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Can we make this a sticky?
Bowling Green beat now 11-3 Kent State yesterday on the road by 22. Over its last 5 games, BG is 5-0 and has won by an average of 20 points!
VCU trounced now 9-5 Fordham by 25. They are now ranked #19 in the RPI and #55 in the NET--very close to quadrant 1 game for us.
Georgia Tech beat Wake Forest by 13 at home to improve to 9-5 on the year.
Rutgers lost to Maryland by 14 to fall to 7-6 on the year.
Cal can't beat anyone, but they do keep in respectable. They lost @ USC by 9 and @UCLA by 15. Hopefully they can pull out a win over Arizona St. or Arizona in the two home games they have coming up.
Princeton just beat now 10-5 Penn (who previously beat Nova) and have now won three in a row @ Lafayette, @ #16 Arizona St., and home over Penn. That's a damn nice run and very helpful for us.
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Can we make this a sticky?
Bowling Green beat now 11-3 Kent State yesterday on the road by 22. Over its last 5 games, BG is 5-0 and has won by an average of 20 points!
VCU trounced now 9-5 Fordham by 25. They are now ranked #19 in the RPI and #55 in the NET--very close to quadrant 1 game for us.
Georgia Tech beat Wake Forest by 13 at home to improve to 9-5 on the year.
Rutgers lost to Maryland by 14 to fall to 7-6 on the year.
Cal can't beat anyone, but they do keep in respectable. They lost @ USC by 9 and @UCLA by 15. Hopefully they can pull out a win over Arizona St. or Arizona in the two home games they have coming up.
Princeton just beat now 10-5 Penn (who previously beat Nova) and have now won three in a row @ Lafayette, @ #16 Arizona State, and home over Penn. That's a damn nice run and very helpful for us.
Good stuff. Arizona St. Things are definitely trending up for us.
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Good stuff. Arizona St. Things are definitely trending up for us.
Good catch.
We will be well served if VCU and Marquette can stay quad 1 wins. It'd be nice to see BG and/or Princeton work it's way up to a tournament team and a Quad 2 game.
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Some guy does this every year on the Iona board. Alot of work, but it's always the longest thread every year. Great come tournament time
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Rutgers beat #16 Ohio State.
VCU beat La Salle.
Ga Tech lost by 3 to #9 Va Tech.
Bowling Green won yet another big improving to 6-0 with an average margin of victory of 20 points per game in that stretch. Next up a road game at a very tough 13-2 Central Michigan Saturday.
Cal up 2 at the half home v. Arizona State.
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Also Temple just gave #17 Houston its first loss. That helps VCU and Nova which indirectly helps us.
Temple is 12-3.
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Bowling Green fresh off a 10 pt win @ 13-3 Central Michigan will face NET #88 Ball State at home tonight. They've won 7 in a row by double digits.
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Georgia Tech's blowout of Cuse looks better this morning.
Bowling Green was a tough out and their experience is showing. Best rebounding team in the country.
VCU/Wagner or STFrancis/BG/Princeton can all win their respective conferences.
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Bowling Green wins its 8th in a row beating #88 Net/#92 KenPom ranked Ball St. after beating #108 Central Michigan over the weekend.
They are now 12-5, 4-0. GoRedmen looking quite silly.
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Bowling Green wins its 8th in a row beating #88 Net/#92 KenPom ranked Ball St. after beating #108 Central Michigan over the weekend.
They are now 12-5, 4-0. GoRedmen looking quite silly.
Are you still trying to convince yourself the non conference schedule wasn’t weak? You still might be the only one that believes that
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Are you still trying to convince yourself the non conference schedule wasn’t weak? You still might be the only one that believes that
Caught him!
Your prognostications aren't aging well.
"Hey, remember when you said Bowling Green wasn't a cupcake? How's that looking after they just got their doors blown off by a bottom 75 team a day after needing a buzzer beater to beat another bottom 75 team?"
- They've won 8 in a row and have back to back wins against teams ranked 108 and 88 in the NET. So it's looking good!
"VCU is an average team in an average conference." - Bracketology has then ranked #40 and gives them a 72% chance to make the tournament (we are at 51%).
And you thought we'd be "getting zero Quad 1 wins in OOC and only a couple of Quad 2 wins." Temple and VCU are quad 1 games now--although on the border. Rutgers and Ga Tech are comfortable quad 2 games. Duke is a very comfortable Quad 1 game looming. BG is coming up on a quad 2 game as well.
"Georgia is not a top 100 team." -They are #71 in the NETand #80 on KenPom.
The two statements I made that sparked most of our debate were:
"I GUARANTEE this Bowling Green team wins at least 20 games."
-I'd say an 8-0 run to get 12-5 is well on the way to 20 wins and I'll double down on that now.
"Cal, Ga Tech and Temple/VCU are the teams you want to play on neutral courts. That is likely one tier one opponent (1-50 on neutral court) and a pair of tier two opponents (51-100 on neutral court). @Rutgers is almost certainly a tier 2 game (76-135 on the road). Duke is obvious a high tier 1."
-Well, that is spot on thus far. Temple is a quad 1 one. VCU and Ga Tech are quad 1 or 2, Rutgers is quad 2, and Duke is quad 1.
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Caught him!
Your prognostications aren't aging well.
"Hey, remember when you said Bowling Green wasn't a cupcake? How's that looking after they just got their doors blown off by a bottom 75 team a day after needing a buzzer beater to beat another bottom 75 team?"
- They've won 8 in a row and have back to back wins against teams ranked 108 and 88 in the NET. So it's looking good!
"VCU is an average team in an average conference." - Bracketology has then ranked #40 and gives them a 72% chance to make the tournament (we are at 51%).
And you thought we'd be "getting zero Quad 1 wins in OOC and only a couple of Quad 2 wins." Temple and VCU are quad 1 games now--although on the border. Rutgers and Ga Tech are comfortable quad 2 games. Duke is a very comfortable Quad 1 game looming. BG is coming up on a quad 2 game as well.
"Georgia is not a top 100 team." -They are #71 in the NETand #80 on KenPom.
The two statements I made that sparked most of our debate were:
"I GUARANTEE this Bowling Green team wins at least 20 games."
-I'd say an 8-0 run to get 12-5 is well on the way to 20 wins and I'll double down on that now.
"Cal, Ga Tech and Temple/VCU are the teams you want to play on neutral courts. That is likely one tier one opponent (1-50 on neutral court) and a pair of tier two opponents (51-100 on neutral court). @Rutgers is almost certainly a tier 2 game (76-135 on the road). Duke is obvious a high tier 1."
-Well, that is spot on thus far. Temple is a quad 1 one. VCU and Ga Tech are quad 1 or 2, Rutgers is quad 2, and Duke is quad 1.
Our non conference SOS is ranked 338 on KenPom. That means only 15 teams in all of division 1 basketball have played weaker schedules than this team has. I think the fact that you're talking up our non conference schedule because a team we played that was projected to finish 8th in the MAC might finish 3rd. Think about that.
Our non conference schedule was weak. There is no getting around that. The fact that a couple of the teams we have played have exceeded expectations thus far and we're still 338th just shows how weak the schedule was.
Ken Pomeroy actually talked about us on one of his most recent podcasts. He described our non conference schedule as "extremely weak". Exact quote. As has everybody else with 2 eyes that knows that a basketball is round and filled with air.
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And you thought we'd be "getting zero Quad 1 wins in OOC and only a couple of Quad 2 wins." Temple and VCU are quad 1 games now--although on the border. Rutgers and Ga Tech are comfortable quad 2 games. Duke is a very comfortable Quad 1 game looming. BG is coming up on a quad 2 game as well.
As of right now, our OOC has produced 0 Q1 wins and 3 Q2 wins. So I was off by 1 Q2 win. Maybe VCU finishes top 50 and flips that to 1 Q1 win and 2 Q2 wins. Maybe they don't.
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Our non conference SOS is ranked 338 on KenPom. That means only 15 teams in all of division 1 basketball have played weaker schedules than this team has. I think the fact that you're talking up our non conference schedule because a team we played that was projected to finish 8th in the MAC might finish 3rd. Think about that.
Our non conference schedule was weak. There is no getting around that. The fact that a couple of the teams we have played have exceeded expectations thus far and we're still 338th just shows how weak the schedule was.
Ken Pomeroy actually talked about us on one of his most recent podcasts. He described our non conference schedule as "extremely weak". Exact quote. As has everybody else with 2 eyes that knows that a basketball is round and filled with air.
lol Let's fall back to general statements after your narrow proclamations have all been proven false.
KenPom is one metric. They don't give us credit for two neutral court games at Barclays. The NCAA does and the staff banked on that when scheduling. We also have Duke remaining.
I think even you would agree that if we won @Duke (and they don't fall off too much without Jones) that nobody would question our OOC if VCU makes the tournament, BG wins 20+ games, Princeton stays in the top half of the Ivy, Ga Tech stays near the middle of the ACC, and Rutgers stats near .500.
Cal is awful. Worse than even I expected, but Ga Tech is tough.
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lol Let's fall back to general statements after your narrow proclamations have all been proven false.
KenPom is one metric. They don't give us credit for two neutral court games at Barclays. The NCAA does and the staff banked on that when scheduling. We also have Duke remaining.
I think even you would agree that if we won @Duke (and they don't fall off too much without Jones) that nobody would question our OOC if VCU makes the tournament, BG wins 20+ games, Princeton stays in the top half of the Ivy, Ga Tech stays near the middle of the ACC, and Rutgers stats near .500.
Cal is awful. Worse than even I expected, but Ga Tech is tough.
If Kenpom switched the Semi-Homes to neutrals maybe the SOS would go from 338th to 320th. Maybe not even that much.
Again, you're banking on the schedule being good based on winning @ Duke, something that will happen roughly 1 out of 10 times this year even if they are without Tre Jones. Without that win, we don't have enough good wins in OOC to give us any margin for error is conference play.
You just can't seem to comprehend the FACT that the OOC schedule was weak. It's not really an opinion. Your opinion that the schedule was good for us based on needing time to gel is a different argument altogether, and while I disagree with that at least it doesn't completely ignore facts like your "our schedule wasn't weak" take does.
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lol Let's fall back to general statements after your narrow proclamations have all been proven false.
You talked up Rutgers and Cal as good games just because they play in good conferences. Rutgers will be lucky to go 5-15 in the B10 and lost to Fordham. Yet, you are still talking them up as a solid game. The schedule is so bad that you are pointing to Rutgers as a good game.
Cal plays in the Pac 12! That's a good game! Well, the Pac 12 could very well end up a one bid conference this year, and Cal is the worst team in that conference with only Washington State close to them. If they go 3-15 in the P12, consider that an overachievement. At least you finally understand that Cal wasn't a good schedule game just because they play in a power conference.
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You talked up Rutgers and Cal as good games just because they play in good conferences. Rutgers will be lucky to go 5-15 in the B10 and lost to Fordham. Yet, you are still talking them up as a solid game. The schedule is so bad that you are pointing to Rutgers as a good game.
Cal plays in the Pac 12! That's a good game! Well, the Pac 12 could very well end up a one bid conference this year, and Cal is the worst team in that conference with only Washington State close to them. If they go 3-15 in the P12, consider that an overachievement. At least you finally understand that Cal wasn't a good schedule game just because they play in a power conference.
I never called Cal a good team. They are a good program though. This is where you employ your Ricky Bobby "if you ain't first, you're last" mentality. No high major is ever a walk in the park regardless of how down they are.
Cal has a core with the physical talent to dance in the next two years. 8 of 9 leading scorers are freshmen or sophs. That's a lot different than playing a team like St. Francis who only possesses the physical talent to beat St. John's once every 20 years.
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I never called Cal a good team. They are a good program though. This is where you employ your Ricky Bobby "if you ain't first, you're last" mentality. No high major is ever a walk in the park regardless of how down they are.
Cal has a core with the physical talent to dance in the next two years. 8 of 9 leading scorers are freshmen or sophs. That's a lot different than playing a team like St. Francis who only possesses the physical talent to beat St. John's once every 20 years.
Cal being a good program and the fact that might be good 2 years from now means absolutely zero to their value on our schedule this year. Zero.
It doesn't matter what conference you play in, if you stink, you stink. Cal is a walk in the park this year. The only high major thing about them this year is that they play 18 games against Pac 12 teams, which as mentioned earlier is a glorified mid-major this year. Similarly, we were a walk in the park for other teams 3 years ago. Didn't matter that we were a Big East team. We were awful and had 0 value to the schedule of other teams.
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Cal being a good program and the fact that might be good 2 years from now means absolutely zero to their value on our schedule this year. Zero.
It doesn't matter what conference you play in, if you stink, you stink. Cal is a walk in the park this year. The only high major thing about them this year is that they play 18 games against Pac 12 teams, which as mentioned earlier is a glorified mid-major this year. Similarly, we were a walk in the park for other teams 3 years ago. Didn't matter that we were a Big East team. We were awful and had 0 value to the schedule of other teams.
Cal has the size, depth, and physical talent to beat us this year and almost did. They have a few former top 100 caliber recruits. The Bradley kid was RSCI top 75 and Darius McNeil is probably even better than him.
There is MUCH more potential to lose to them than a scrub like Md Eastenr Shore. 9-10 times this season Cal will show the potential they have for the future. But I'm don't talking about Cal. I've already admitted they suck. Why don't you admit Georgia Tech, Temole, and Bowling Green are better than you thought? You've already admitted you were wrong about VCU.
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Cal has the size, depth, and physical talent to beat us this year and almost did. They have a few former top 100 caliber recruits. The Bradley kid was RSCI top 75 and Darius McNeil is probably even better than him.
There is MUCH more potential to lose to them than a scrub like Md Eastenr Shore. 9-10 times this season Cal will show the potential they have for the future. But I'm don't talking about Cal. I've already admitted they suck. Why don't you admit Georgia Tech, Temole, and Bowling Green are better than you thought? You've already admitted you were wrong about VCU.
When trying to convince yourself that the schedule wasn't weak earlier this year, you pointed to the fact that we played a Pac 12 team and that in and of itself makes it a good game to schedule. When the fact is beating Cal means about the same as beating Fordham. Zero.
Why do you keep bringing up Temple? We never played them.
VCU is better than anticipated. Georgia Tech is slightly better, but they will still be lucky to be .500 in the ACC. Bowling Green is still a middle of the pack MAC team where maybe they can finish 3rd in the MAC if they continue to play well. They can also finish 8th.
You're tracking VCU, Georgia Tech, Bowling Green and Rutgers. That's pathetic. Take a step out of the SJU bubble and take an overview of that and then compare it to other power conference teams with NCAA aspirations and who they would be tracking if they have a similar thread on their forum. It definitely wouldn't include a team from the MAC not named Buffalo as their 4th best game.
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When trying to convince yourself that the schedule wasn't weak earlier this year, you pointed to the fact that we played a Pac 12 team and that in and of itself makes it a good game to schedule. When the fact is beating Cal means about the same as beating Fordham. Zero.
Why do you keep bringing up Temple? We never played them.
VCU is better than anticipated. Georgia Tech is slightly better, but they will still be lucky to be .500 in the ACC. Bowling Green is still a middle of the pack MAC team where maybe they can finish 3rd in the MAC if they continue to play well. They can also finish 8th.
You're tracking VCU, Georgia Tech, Bowling Green and Rutgers. That's pathetic. Take a step out of the SJU bubble and take an overview of that and then compare it to other power conference teams with NCAA aspirations and who they would be tracking if they have a similar thread on their forum. It definitely wouldn't include a team from the MAC not named Buffalo as their 4th best game.
You two should just bang and get it over with, this is more frustrating than Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepherd on Moonlighting.
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You're tracking VCU, Georgia Tech, Bowling Green and Rutgers. That's pathetic. Take a step out of the SJU bubble and take an overview of that and then compare it to other power conference teams with NCAA aspirations and who they would be tracking if they have a similar thread on their forum. It definitely wouldn't include a team from the MAC not named Buffalo as their 4th best game.
Fine tonight I'm tracking top 100 Dayton. They won six in a row heading into the night. They lost to...VCU bitch!!!!
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You two should just bang and get it over with, this is more frustrating than Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepherd on Moonlighting.
This may be more of you projecting. Erection projection?
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Fine tonight I'm tracking top 100 Dayton. They won six in a row heading into the night. They lost to...VCU bitch!!!!
Good. I’m glad. Disappointed that Georgia Tech got their dicks kicked in tonight but oh well.
Our schedule was weak. It’s a fact supported by any and all data and metrics you can find. It’s sad you refuse to accept this.
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Good. I’m glad. Disappointed that Georgia Tech got their dicks kicked in tonight but oh well.
Our schedule was weak. It’s a fact supported by any and all data and metrics you can find. It’s sad you refuse to accept this.
We could end up having played 3 tournament teams in our OOC schedule. That’s not too bad.
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Good. I’m glad. Disappointed that Georgia Tech got their dicks kicked in tonight but oh well.
Our schedule was weak. It’s a fact supported by any and all data and metrics you can find. It’s sad you refuse to accept this.
How long are you guys going to beat this to death. Yes schedule was weak but everyone plays cupcakes early. Our tougher games turned out to be not so tough but you don't know that when you schedule a year or two in advance. If team takes care of business, as I think they will, it is a nonissue. The whole argument really comes down to a 1 game difference in wins come evaluation time. FINIS
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We could end up having played 3 tournament teams in our OOC schedule. That’s not too bad.
I count 2 at large caliber teams at the absolute most. Who is the 3rd? Please don’t give me an NEC team that is gonna end up as a 16 play-in game and count that towards schedule strength.
That’s weak.
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I count 2 at large caliber teams at the absolute most. Who is the 3rd? Please don’t give me an NEC team that is gonna end up as a 16 play-in game and count that towards schedule strength.
That’s weak.
Fair chance that 2 of VCU Princeton and Bowling Green make it, and Duke.
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Fair chance that 2 of VCU Princeton and Bowling Green make it, and Duke.
As of right now VCU is a bubble team if they don’t get the auto bid. There’s still 2 months left so they can play themselves safely in or get to a point where they have to win the A10 tourney to get in.
Harvard and Yale are the class of the Ivy. Princeton will probably make the 4 team playoff in the Ivy but would be tough to get through those 2 teams for them.
Bowling Green has to win the MAC tournament. Buffalo is in the MAC.
I wouldn’t call it a fair chance that 2 of those 3 get in. I think it’s far more likely that 0 of them get in than 2
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As of right now VCU is a bubble team if they don’t get the auto bid. There’s still 2 months left so they can play themselves safely in or get to a point where they have to win the A10 tourney to get in.
Harvard and Yale are the class of the Ivy. Princeton will probably make the 4 team playoff in the Ivy but would be tough to get through those 2 teams for them.
Bowling Green has to win the MAC tournament. Buffalo is in the MAC.
I wouldn’t call it a fair chance that 2 of those 3 get in. I think it’s far more likely that 0 of them get in than 2
I’ll be honest, I haven’t watched a single Ivy League game besides johnnies-Princeton, but Harvard is 6-7 and lost to Dartmouth by almost 20 on Saturday.
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Bowling Green won by 31 today over Western Michigan who just played Buffalo close.
9 wins in a row for BG.
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Bowling Green won by 31 today over Western Michigan who just played Buffalo close.
9 wins in a row for BG.
You should have named this thread "Past Opponents' Wins" if that's all you're gonna post. How did Georgia Tech do today? Rutgers yesterday? Cal Thursday and today?
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You should have named this thread "Past Opponents' Wins" if that's all you're gonna post. How did Georgia Tech do today? Rutgers yesterday? Cal Thursday and today?
VCU beat Umass by 18 today.
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VCU beat Umass by 18 today.
That would have moved our OOC strength of schedule from 337th to 335th if not for Georgia Tech's 30 point home loss to Louisville. Shucks
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That would have moved our OOC strength of schedule from 337th to 335th if not for Georgia Tech's 30 point home loss to Louisville. Shucks
I'd like to concentrate all my negative energy on Fordham96, so it'd be great if you stopped trying to be a villain.
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I'd like to concentrate all my negative energy on Fordham96, so it'd be great if you stopped trying to be a villain.
Posting facts is being the villain now, eh?
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Bowling Green won by 31 today over Western Michigan who just played Buffalo close.
9 wins in a row for BG.
If we don't take care of our own business SOS won't matter.
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If we don't take care of our own business SOS won't matter.
If BG keeps this up, Ga Tech finishes close to .500 in ACC and VCU is a tournament team all should be good.
I think we beat Duke if Jones is out, but who am I? Zion could go for 35 and 20.
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Bowling Green up 18 on the road in the second half. About to win tenth in a row.
Ga Tech with a narrow lead at home over Notre Dame.
Rutgers beat Nebraska at home yesterday.
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Bowling Green up 18 on the road in the second half. About to win tenth in a row.
Ga Tech with a narrow lead at home over Notre Dame.
Rutgers beat Nebraska at home yesterday.
Got to give you credit Marillac on your touting of BG after we played them. If I recall they were picked something like 6th in their conference and if they have won 10 in a row they are obviously much better than that. Don't get to cocky though cause I still think some of your opinions are wack (but not all of them). ;)
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Got to give you credit Marillac on your touting of BG after we played them. If I recall they were picked something like 6th in their conference and if they have won 10 in a row they are obviously much better than that. Don't get to cocky though cause I still think some of your opinions are wack (but not all of them). ;)
I can't take too much credit because I think it was obvious to anyone that knew the sport that were surprisingly good. Tough matchup in a second game for a team like us.
They have #14 Buffalo in a few games...let's hope they can steal it and bolster both of our NET rankings.
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I’m happy to keep making money of weak BG lines. They were -1 today I believe
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With Illinois St.'s upset win of Buffalo, Bowling Green now sits alone atop the MAC standings.
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VCU up 16-8 early @ Rhode Island 11 mins through the first half.
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VCU loses a close one at Rhode Island.
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VCU loses a close one at Rhode Island.
a quad injury for St. John's.
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a quad injury for St. John's.
Yessir. May not have been the worst for us since a win would have put VCU in a position to leap us shortly. We are in the unique position of wanting them to be a quad 1 but also not wanting them to have a better overall resume than us.
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Rutgers beat Indiana tonight.
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Rutgers beat Indiana tonight.
They are getting better
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Bowling Green and #18 Buffalo are in close one second half. 52-50 Buffalo.
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Bowling Green wins!!! Down goes #18 Buffalo.
Princeton also won again.
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Bowling Green wins!!! Down goes #18 Buffalo.
Princeton also won again.
Princeton is really surprising me. I didn’t think they would play this well after dismissing their top scorer.
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Bowling Green wins!!! Down goes #18 Buffalo.
Princeton also won again.
BG was a rock solid older team w a stud in Wiggins that should continue to help our resume.
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Rutgers beat Northwestern on the road last night. Ga Tech lost by 8 to #22 Va Tech on the road and VCU won again.
Time to cheer for VCU to lose since they’ve passed us in all the metrics. They were #43 in the NET before the win last night.
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Rutgers beat Northwestern on the road last night. Ga Tech lost by 8 to #22 Va Tech on the road and VCU won again.
Time to cheer for VCU to lose since they’ve passed us in all the metrics. They were #43 in the NET before the win last night.
If we finish 8-8 in league play, do you believe we will get a bid?
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If we finish 8-8 in league play, do you believe we will get a bid?
I think you mean 9-9, but I believe we are 100% in at .500.
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Rutgers beat Northwestern on the road last night. Ga Tech lost by 8 to #22 Va Tech on the road and VCU won again.
Time to cheer for VCU to lose since they’ve passed us in all the metrics. They were #43 in the NET before the win last night.
That's silly. We want every team we play to win every game that isn't against us. The better they are, the better the wins (and losses) look. For example, Creighton's recent slide just cost us a quad 1 win.
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We want every team we play to win every game that isn't against us.
What do we root for when two teams we played play each other? A plane crash?
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That's silly. We want every team we play to win every game that isn't against us. The better they are, the better the wins (and losses) look. For example, Creighton's recent slide just cost us a quad 1 win.
VCU is now direct competion. Its not as clear as hoping they win every game. Imagine we miss the tournament or get bounced to a bad region by then? Certainly possible.
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What do we root for when two teams we played play each other? A plane crash?
You're smart enough to figure this one out on your own.
VCU is now direct competion. Its not as clear as hoping they win every game. Imagine we miss the tournament or get bounced to a bad region by then? Certainly possible.
It's just as clear. We beat VCU. The better VCU is, the better our resume is. You know, that beastly non-conf resume you always refer to ;)
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Bowling Green wins again...this time over NET #121 Akron.
VCU bearing the brakes off Rhode Island 62-35.
Worst.Schedule.Ever.
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Bowling Green wins again...this time over NET #121 Akron.
VCU bearing the brakes off Rhode Island 62-35.
Worst.Schedule.Ever.
How are Loyola MD, Cal, UMES, MSM, Wagner, St Francis, and Sacred Heart doing?
Certainly not worst schedule ever. There's even 30 schools who had weaker schedules this year alone. So we're really only in the bottom 10% of weakest schedules. You keep pointing to VCU and BG (BG is what, a quad 3 win? Rutgers would be the better example) while ignoring everything else.
And again, as is required for all posts with Marillac, some disclaimers:
I am not, nor have i ever said that the OOC was a bad schedule, I have simply stated (and backed up with evidence - both annecdotal and factual) that it was very weak. I acknowledge that VCU and BG have been pleasant surprises, but they do not erase playing 7 schools that are sub 240 on KP. We will make the NCAA tourney (barring a total collapse), but we will not be seeded as highly as most other power conference teams would be with a 12-1 OOC record. I think that covers everything...
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How are Loyola MD, Cal, UMES, MSM, Wagner, St Francis, and Sacred Heart doing?
Certainly not worst schedule ever. There's even 30 schools who had weaker schedules this year alone. So we're really only in the bottom 10% of weakest schedules. You keep pointing to VCU and BG (BG is what, a quad 3 win? Rutgers would be the better example) while ignoring everything else.
And again, as is required for all posts with Marillac, some disclaimers:
I am not, nor have i ever said that the OOC was a bad schedule, I have simply stated (and backed up with evidence - both annecdotal and factual) that it was very weak. I acknowledge that VCU and BG have been pleasant surprises, but they do not erase playing 7 schools that are sub 240 on KP. We will make the NCAA tourney (barring a total collapse), but we will not be seeded as highly as most other power conference teams would be with a 12-1 OOC record. I think that covers everything...
There was 1-2 too many cupcakes but there was a thought that anything other than 12-0 would be a big disappointment. We have seen, beating teams like vcu, Rutgers, gtech all away from home are not gimmies. All of them have beaten good teams throughout the year. Bowling green was thought of as a joke and a terrible close win..turns out not so much.
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There was 1-2 too many cupcakes but there was a thought that anything other than 12-0 would be a big disappointment. We have seen, beating teams like vcu, Rutgers, gtech all away from home are not gimmies. All of them have beaten good teams throughout the year. Bowling green was thought of as a joke and a terrible close win..turns out not so much.
What really gets me upset each year are the posters that talk about us needing 23+ wins just to make the tournament. It ignores facts. The Big East is very hard. And the PAC-12 has been awful for a few years now.
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There was 1-2 too many cupcakes but there was a thought that anything other than 12-0 would be a big disappointment. We have seen, beating teams like vcu, Rutgers, gtech all away from home are not gimmies. All of them have beaten good teams throughout the year. Bowling green was thought of as a joke and a terrible close win..turns out not so much.
There are different levels of cupcakes. Teams like Princeton in that 150-200 range are more ideal than teams that are sub 250. It's a game you should still win, but it looks prettier on the team sheet.
Obviously it's easier for me to just say "schedule teams in 150-200 instead of 250-343!" than it is for the staff to actually make that happen, but even swapping two of those lower cupcakes for two middling cupcakes would give the appearance of a stronger schedule without putting the team through the grinder.
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There are different levels of cupcakes. Teams like Princeton in that 150-200 range are more ideal than teams that are sub 250. It's a game you should still win, but it looks prettier on the team sheet.
Obviously it's easier for me to just say "schedule teams in 150-200 instead of 250-343!" than it is for the staff to actually make that happen, but even swapping two of those lower cupcakes for two middling cupcakes would give the appearance of a stronger schedule without putting the team through the grinder.
Agree
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Cal ends the regular season winning its final three games in the PAC-12 including beating then top 25 Washington.
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Cal ends the regular season winning its final three games in the PAC-12 including beating then top 25 Washington.
WOW
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Bowling Green v Buffalo for the MAC championship tomorrow. If BG wins we are screwed.
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Bowling Green v Buffalo for the MAC championship tomorrow. If BG wins we are screwed.
But I thought you loved BG! LOL
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1122602170107486214
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1122602170107486214
The Dunking Dutchman redux.