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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: ForeverYoung on April 15, 2014, 08:23:13 PM

Title: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on April 15, 2014, 08:23:13 PM
Obekpa is 100% staying and we are very close to have Thomas on board.
I am wondering if Obekpa's decision will impact Thomas.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: mjmaherjr on April 15, 2014, 08:24:39 PM
what about the top 50 recruits
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on April 15, 2014, 08:30:46 PM
what about the top 50 recruits
  Briscoe and big D will be dunking over visitor teams in 2015
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: lihoop on April 15, 2014, 08:46:31 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 15, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
I dont know about you guys but I never want posters to stop giving scoops. If you dont believe them then just dont believe them.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on April 15, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
  What pot am I stirring?  Sharing something beneficial is bothering you? 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: prjohnnies on April 15, 2014, 09:12:24 PM
Obekpa shouldn't impact Thomas or even another front court recruit one iota.  Plenty of minutes at the 4 and 5.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on April 15, 2014, 09:13:22 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
  What pot am I stirring?  Sharing something beneficial is bothering you? 

So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Celtics11 on April 15, 2014, 09:21:03 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
  What pot am I stirring?  Sharing something beneficial is bothering you? 

So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"
No as a sh*t stirrer! How is it clear he has contacts to the program. Hope he is right but he could be the same poster as the one on the other site with a different name who has claimed Briscoe and Diallo are locks for a long time and everyone questions his veracity on the other site.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: MullinJaxBerry on April 15, 2014, 09:21:44 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
  What pot am I stirring?  Sharing something beneficial is bothering you? 

So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"

Fordham, you`ll always have someone that has to have a comment. 
I say if you have a scoop then post it, and when someone has a comment (because there will be that one, or two people that will), I say just laugh.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marillac on April 15, 2014, 09:25:46 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?

Bizarro Baldi.  His scoups are only positive. 

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: mjmaherjr on April 15, 2014, 09:29:39 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?

Bizarro Baldi.  His scoups are only positive. 


if this guy won mega instead of power ball its definitely bizarro baldi

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on April 15, 2014, 09:31:36 PM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
  What pot am I stirring?  Sharing something beneficial is bothering you? 

So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"
No as a sh*t stirrer! How is it clear he has contacts to the program. Hope he is right but he could be the same poster as the one on the other site with a different name who has claimed Briscoe and Diallo are locks for a long time and everyone questions his veracity on the other site.

Obviously you can never be 100% sure but he doesn't just make assertions.  He explains them in detail in many cases. 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 15, 2014, 09:31:42 PM
Old red in the house?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on April 15, 2014, 09:53:09 PM
I joined this forum last year to discuss, share, and most importantly enjoy SJUBB.  Didn't expect to have my attorney on stand by :)
Some of you here are more silly than my kids.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on April 15, 2014, 10:02:07 PM
Lavin to meet with Obekpa this week:

http://zagsblog.com/st-johns/lavin-to-meet-with-obekpa-this-week/ (http://zagsblog.com/st-johns/lavin-to-meet-with-obekpa-this-week/)

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 16, 2014, 02:50:22 AM
Briscoe and Diallo are very high priority for the staff. Staff has very good relationships with both and personally they are two of my favorites kids. I've known Isaiah since grammar school and I've gotten to know Cheick pretty well since Elite 24. Two high character individuals and would be great Johnnies.

Oh yea love both their games too. I won't count my chickens before they're hatched but it is promising.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: PIB on April 16, 2014, 07:09:49 AM
How sweet would that be. Add Govan and we are scrait.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: paultzman on April 16, 2014, 07:31:09 AM
Briscoe and Diallo are very high priority for the staff. Staff has very good relationships with both and personally they are two of my favorites kids. I've known Isaiah since grammar school and I've gotten to know Cheick pretty well since Elite 24. Two high character individuals and would be great Johnnies.

Oh yea love both their games too. I won't count my chickens before they're hatched but it is promising.

Agree on "promising".
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: MCNPA on April 16, 2014, 08:22:24 AM
Great stuff to hear. MIT seemed that things were spiraling for a while.  Glad to see a turnaround rather quickly. 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Red2395 on April 16, 2014, 08:34:09 AM
It is so nice to check in and read positive post.

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2014, 08:45:55 AM
It is so nice to check in and read positive post.



Where?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: we are sju on April 16, 2014, 09:11:52 AM
Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?

Bizarro Baldi.  His scoups are only positive. 



How soon you forget. That was Baldi's gimmick during Norm years. "Kid is coming". Lance, Syl, Kevin Durant, they were all coming. Difference with this is no matter how bad a game coach Lavin is I would never be surprised if anyone came here.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: derk on April 16, 2014, 09:40:06 AM
I joined this forum last year to discuss, share, and most importantly enjoy SJUBB.  Didn't expect to have my attorney on stand by :)
Some of you here are more silly than my kids.

Any speculation that there could be any "punishment" involved to prevent the nonsense that occurred last year. Might be something benign like having his teammates vote on allowing him back. Considering he hasn't yet met with Coach, what caused his leaving, and what has happened to change his mind. Sounds very strange to me.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Foad on April 16, 2014, 09:51:38 AM
Any speculation that there could be any "punishment" involved to prevent the nonsense that occurred last year. Might be something benign like having his teammates vote on allowing him back.

He should first be made to watch videos of himself shooting free throws while wearing a hair shirt and then afterwards to write "I will not grin like an imbecile every time I am called for a foul" 100 times on Lavin's white board, lord knows Lavin has no use for it.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: prjohnnies on April 16, 2014, 10:02:13 AM
Haha great post
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2014, 10:41:56 AM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on April 16, 2014, 10:43:03 AM
 the drama of ST. John's hoops never ends.. we should all know and accept that by now.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: paultzman on April 16, 2014, 10:50:16 AM
It appears Lavin will probably have a solid nucleus to work with. Let's see what he achieves with that. Go Johnnies!
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on April 16, 2014, 11:22:45 AM
Lavin is still the coach, so the drama will continue.   That is an unfortunate fact we will have to deal with for as long as he's here.

With that said, Paultz is right on the money.  There are some quality pieces in place, and it sounds like we are on the verge of adding other players to fill key roles.   All in all things could be worse from a personnel standpoint.   
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: we are sju on April 16, 2014, 11:49:20 AM
It appears Lavin will probably have a solid nucleus to work with. Let's see what he achieves with that. Go Johnnies!

Honestly for Lavin's sake was hoping for a 8 man rotation. Does anyone really want to go through revolving rotations, "Just wait until February" nonsense again?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: paultzman on April 16, 2014, 11:51:54 AM
It appears Lavin will probably have a solid nucleus to work with. Let's see what he achieves with that. Go Johnnies!

Honestly for Lavin's sake was hoping for a 8 man rotation. Does anyone really want to go through revolving rotations, "Just wait until February" nonsense again?

Nope
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marillac on April 16, 2014, 11:52:38 AM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: we are sju on April 16, 2014, 11:54:54 AM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

If you are going to "punish" Bluto please make sure you agree on a safe word beforehand
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Foad on April 16, 2014, 11:59:25 AM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

If you are going to "punish" Bluto please make sure you agree on a safe word beforehand

If Marillac = Gimp does that make Baldi butch? #PulpFriction #ResortingToHashtagsForCheapLaughs
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: we are sju on April 16, 2014, 12:02:18 PM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

If you are going to "punish" Bluto please make sure you agree on a safe word beforehand

If Marillac = Gimp does that make Baldi butch? #PulpFriction #ResortingToHashtagsForCheapLaughs
Marillac would be Zed and Bluto the Gimp as he is being punished, at least that is how I would interpret it 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2014, 05:25:11 PM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

I get fired if I don't show up

But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bball purist on April 16, 2014, 05:31:23 PM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

I get fired if I don't show up

But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game?  I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2014, 05:55:44 PM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

I get fired if I don't show up

But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game?  I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...

Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: simplyred on April 16, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Come on guys.  This is really getting out of hand.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bball purist on April 16, 2014, 06:53:07 PM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

I get fired if I don't show up

But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game?  I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...

Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
Baldi, you out of all people should know I was joking...the refs do arrive a few hours b4 game time - that is accurate.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2014, 06:54:38 PM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

I get fired if I don't show up

But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game?  I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...

Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
Baldi, you out of all people should know I was joking...the refs do arrive a few hours b4 game time - that is accurate.

The refs for sure
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: redslope on April 16, 2014, 07:40:54 PM
It is so nice to check in and read positive post.



Where?
Just skip any post by Baldi;)
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on April 16, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
Come on guys.  This is really getting out of hand.

I know.  Our coach should have enough respect for his job and the university to at least put in a full day of work.   
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Ron Artesticles on April 17, 2014, 03:34:11 AM
Come on guys.  This is really getting out of hand.

I know.  Our coach should have enough respect for his job and the university to at least put in a full day of work.

i've tried to wade through the last few pages of this thread and understand what you guys are saying. Still struggling.

Would love to get a breakdown of what people are hearing about Lavin and the Prov/NIT games
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: hnk on April 17, 2014, 08:21:35 AM
Baldi  (I think it was him) started a rumor that he supposedly overheard in a Mineola restaurant from a guy who supposedly looked like one of our assistant coaches that Coach Lavin did not show up at halftime of the Providence game and kids were just told to do what they do.

Other posters supposedly believe Baldi's story.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 08:25:17 AM
What's so hard to believe?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Foad on April 17, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
What's so hard to believe?

It's hard to believe that Steve Lavin skipped the opportunity to give the sort of rousing halftime speech that Steve Lavin credits Steve Lavin with having given to turn the season around at halftime of the Georgetown game.

It's hard to believe that no one saw Steve Lavin wandering around Madison Square Garden at halftime, if as you suggest he was not in the locker room.

It's hard to believe that Steve Lavin's assistant coaches were discussing his alleged absence from the locker room in loud voices in a public bar. It's hard to believe a poster purportedly as connected as you cannot identify Tony Chiles by sight. If Tony Chiles were in a bar discussing the alleged absence it's hard to believe that you just happened to be there to hear them.

Other than that it's entirely plausible.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 10:02:09 AM
Another thing I find hard to believe is that Lavin actually gave some direction pre Rob Morris game.

Maybe he's a worse coach than originally thought. I would rather hope he went to beauty salon at half
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: hnk on April 17, 2014, 10:08:55 AM
Baldi, find another sucker, i don't choose to play your games, but I am going to hate traipsing down to Phillie next year to watch Jordan

Coach Lavin missed halftime because he had a meeting w me to discuss his contract extension.  No one can possibly blame him for that.  It was my only free time.....free in the sense that I was available.  Sorry, gotta go negotiate.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: we are sju on April 17, 2014, 10:09:47 AM
West Canan won their District tile w/o a coach as Bud Kilmer left at halftime and Injured QB Paul Walker led them to a title.

Norman Dale got throwm out of a game and Drunken Dennis Hopper ran the picket fence for someone other than Hickory's best player and they still won.

Clearly Lavin's assistants suck as they could not do what a Gimpy Paul Walker and drunken Dennis Hopper could.

Time to fire the assistants!!!!!
 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: nudginator59 on April 17, 2014, 10:19:14 AM
West Canan won their District tile w/o a coach as Bud Kilmer left at halftime and Injured QB Paul Walker led them to a title.

Norman Dale got throwm out of a game and Drunken Dennis Hopper ran the picket fence for someone other than Hickory's best player and they still won.

Clearly Lavin's assistants suck as they could not do what a Gimpy Paul Walker and drunken Dennis Hopper could.

Time to fire the assistants!!!!!
 

It only took Walker ONE take to win District, what's up the SJU staff...Geez!
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: yankcranker on April 17, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
What's so hard to believe?
\

The source obviously.  ;)
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marillac on April 17, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?

It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.

How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence? 

I get fired if I don't show up

But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game?  I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...

Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
Baldi, you out of all people should know I was joking...the refs do arrive a few hours b4 game time - that is accurate.

Too late...Baldi has already spread the rumor to four guys.  Ironically, the same rumor will get back to Baldi in a week and then be set as fact in his mind forever.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: J Van on April 17, 2014, 04:49:39 PM
There is a fine line between Rumour and Truth.  There sure is a lot of drama.  I thought it was over.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: MullinJaxBerry on April 17, 2014, 05:00:24 PM
lol 
I love how this thread goes from the original poster stating that CO is 100% back, to back to Lavin.
This couldn`t stay on the "Thanks coach Lavin, good luck" thread?

2 questions I have is:
Someone (not Baldi) stated Lavin was gonna be fired this week, guess he didn`t know what he was talking about either.
And didn`t Lavin and CO  have a meeting this week? I know Forever said he`s 100% back but why no official word from Lavin himself or atleast SJU?  These guys just crack me up.

After this week I`m done being concerned about sju, I come on hoping to see news and it`s the same ole thing.
Going to enjoy the spring and summer, and if Lavin is fired (which I believe if to be the case, that it would have happened by now.) CO stays or goes, and we get any of these transfers then I`ll find out after the summer.
Just getting sick of bs rumors.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on April 17, 2014, 05:02:10 PM
What's so hard to believe?

Damn Son, you just got taken to the cleaners on this page.  You are slipping pal. 

Time to track down Wormer again, he was more reliable.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on April 17, 2014, 05:12:58 PM
 Not sure you keep harping on the Robert Morris game?  No one... Players, coaches, or fans gave a shit.   I think you are the only one that did. 

Providence game.. Came out flat in 2nd half and then had a ferocious comeback... Something happened positive there.  Then, the Obekpa situation, where he acted like a child and didn't go in.   

 End of story, end of season, lets move along.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bk8664 on April 17, 2014, 05:14:30 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

Dude, there is a reason no one believes what you post.  If you can get about three juicy things correct in a row and you'll get your street cred back.  Unfortunately until then, your posts will be passes.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on April 17, 2014, 05:17:05 PM
 And I guess since none of us were actually there, one could make the argument that the TGAPL brilliant motivational tactics and strategy spurred that Providence rally.   

See, game can be played both ways, when we are all just speculating. 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 05:17:18 PM
Not sure you keep harping on the Robert Morris game?  No one... Players, coaches, or fans gave a shit.   I think you are the only one that did. 

Providence game.. Came out flat in 2nd half and then had a ferocious comeback... Something happened positive there.  Then, the Obekpa situation, where he acted like a child and didn't go in.   

 End of story, end of season, lets move along.

Exactly right. No coach, player or fan gave a sht about that  NIT game.  I was watching. But hey I'm not a fan right?  Where was Lavin a half hour before that game? The coach is paid to give a sht!
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: mkras99 on April 17, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
This thread has quickly become the suck (par for the course, I guess).
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on April 17, 2014, 05:23:29 PM
You want a cookie for watching?

I have no idea where he was and have no reason, besides a story from you ( which are mostly misses), to believe he want exactly where he was supposed to be. 

Amazing that none of these unhappy players dropped the dime on a coach not showing up, or beat writers, or assistants, JayOn1, or, well, anyone except for you.   

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: hnk on April 17, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
Baldi , in negotiations regarding contract extension.  Examining Jordan's tonsils.  Begging CO to play.  Where should he have been? Watching the guys stretch!
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 05:29:37 PM
You want a cookie for watching?

I have no idea where he was and have no reason, besides a story from you ( which are mostly misses), to believe he want exactly where he was supposed to be. 

Amazing that none of these unhappy players dropped the dime on a coach not showing up, or beat writers, or assistants, JayOn1, or, well, anyone except for you.   



Wtf . Half the team was about transfer. Or was that a Baldi rumor too? Hopper, who would get time,  has left. He's the smartest.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 05:39:33 PM
What's so hard to believe?

Damn Son, you just got taken to the cleaners on this page.  You are slipping pal. 

Time to track down Wormer again, he was more reliable.

Can I still vote for this for Post of the year? This is the best yet
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: action jackson on April 17, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

Marco- go ahead and post it.  What do you have to lose?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: redstorm212 on April 17, 2014, 08:56:58 PM
You want a cookie for watching?

I have no idea where he was and have no reason, besides a story from you ( which are mostly misses), to believe he want exactly where he was supposed to be. 

Amazing that none of these unhappy players dropped the dime on a coach not showing up, or beat writers, or assistants, JayOn1, or, well, anyone except for you.   



Wtf . Half the team was about transfer. Or was that a Baldi rumor too? Hopper, who would get time,  has left. He's the smartest.

If things were as bad as you say they actually would have transferred.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Mike on April 17, 2014, 09:01:09 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

Marco- go ahead and post it.  What do you have to lose?

He keeps saying it, can't be any worst that what he has been saying for the past month.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: redslope on April 17, 2014, 09:54:48 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

Marco- go ahead and post it.  What do you have to lose?
any residual creditability
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: prjohnnies on April 17, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
I'd be interested in hearing whatever Baldi heard....
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 10:34:51 PM
I'd be interested in hearing whatever Baldi heard....

Pm
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2014, 10:35:26 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

Marco- go ahead and post it.  What do you have to lose?

He keeps saying it, can't be any worst that what he has been saying for the past month.

It can
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: TONYD3 on April 17, 2014, 11:09:12 PM
dont know why i care, but I read 4 pages of this shit and those crappy pages on obekpa. SAY IT
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: simplyred on April 17, 2014, 11:22:38 PM
Post it or move on.  The incessant insinuations are rather weak.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Mike on April 17, 2014, 11:27:26 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

Marco- go ahead and post it.  What do you have to lose?

He keeps saying it, can't be any worst that what he has been saying for the past month.

It can

Then post it what are you afraid of? If you won't then stop mentioning it.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: erickthered on April 17, 2014, 11:42:41 PM
He has nothing and the fact is he'll look like an even bigger clown next year when SJU wins 23 plus and is better rounded then this year. Jordan, D'lo in backcourt and CO, Thomas and jones upfront. Phil,Jamal and Dom off bench and possibly Horford as well as a young 6'11 guy who can be brought along.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on April 17, 2014, 11:51:37 PM
Leave Baldi alone.  If it bothers you, just ignore him.

I go back and forth with him because it amuses me.  It's quite obvious he gets off on STJ turmoil.  Fan or not, it's bizarre behavior. 

He will never admit he's wrong. 

Also, you guys are really annoying Mkras...threads being " the suck" are not cool.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: J Van on April 18, 2014, 12:09:36 PM
Mate, I've never seen such shite!  This is worse than the EastEnders here.

He met him in a pub...
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: sju89tr on April 18, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter  ::)
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bigmaxnosauce on April 18, 2014, 12:22:46 PM
Nah son.  Dis place mad funny.   Hail to the Throne
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 18, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter  ::)
Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter  ::)

Never understood why  some are afraid to post what really goes on.  If the person who told you the info wanted it a secret, why would they even mention it. Some sort of sick enabling, while the program rots
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: lihoop on April 18, 2014, 01:28:50 PM
Baldi,

Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 18, 2014, 01:35:00 PM
Baldi,

Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?

Like what? Jordan taking a few weeks off to visit mom? Please
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: paultzman on April 18, 2014, 01:38:50 PM
Can this thread be retired and shipped to Hall of Shame?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: sju89tr on April 18, 2014, 01:39:04 PM
Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter  ::)
Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter  ::)

Never understood why  some are afraid to post what really goes on.  If the person who told you the info wanted it a secret, why would they even mention it. Some sort of sick enabling, while the program rots

I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 18, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
Of course they are. Guess we will never know
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: LoganK on April 18, 2014, 02:34:19 PM
Baldi,

Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?

Like what? Jordan taking a few weeks off to visit mom? Please

Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

So what really happened?
(Note: there have been other posts where you talk about not posting all the info you were given, but I didn't feel like digging, so I picked the most recent)
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: hnk on April 18, 2014, 02:36:37 PM
Baldi will tell us when the Easter Bunny comes.   The EB is coming this Subday.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 18, 2014, 03:41:34 PM
Baldi,

Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?

Like what? Jordan taking a few weeks off to visit mom? Please

Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

So what really happened?
(Note: there have been other posts where you talk about not posting all the info you were given, but I didn't feel like digging, so I picked the most recent)

Maybe we can hear from the posters who sources are always right
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: simplyred on April 18, 2014, 03:48:51 PM
If someone hears something from a reliable source,  I  would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge.  I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source.  I just don't like  when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is.  If  you're not willing to say what the  information is, then stop making the veiled references.  It isn't fair  to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging.  Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bball purist on April 18, 2014, 04:28:48 PM
If someone hears something from a reliable source,  I  would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge.  I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source.  I just don't like  when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is.  If  you're not willing to say what the  information is, then stop making the veiled references.  It isn't fair  to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging.  Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
Yes.  I also was thinking about this - unless we know the full context of the story, the person sharing it, while sharing a fact that is true, may not have the full context of what transpired leading up to that moment.



Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: LoganK on April 18, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
Too bad you  guys won't know the truth  as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop

So what really happened?
(Note: there have been other posts where you talk about not posting all the info you were given, but I didn't feel like digging, so I picked the most recent)

Maybe we can hear from the posters who sources are always right

Never understood why  some are afraid to post what really goes on.  If the person who told you the info wanted it a secret, why would they even mention it. Some sort of sick enabling, while the program rots

We can hear from you.  You said you have knowledge of what really happened those last two games.  That it was worse than what you posted.  If you know it was worse, then you know what happened.  So rather than be afraid to post it, or try and get someone else to do so, why not post it?  I can only think of two reasons, neither of which are flattering.  So which is it?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on April 18, 2014, 09:25:57 PM
 You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional. 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on April 18, 2014, 10:07:47 PM
You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional. 

He was never going anywhere, period.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: redstorm212 on April 18, 2014, 10:08:21 PM
If someone hears something from a reliable source,  I  would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge.  I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source.  I just don't like  when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is.  If  you're not willing to say what the  information is, then stop making the veiled references.  It isn't fair  to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging.  Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.

+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 18, 2014, 10:24:06 PM
If someone hears something from a reliable source,  I  would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge.  I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source.  I just don't like  when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is.  If  you're not willing to say what the  information is, then stop making the veiled references.  It isn't fair  to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging.  Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.

+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.

And you are still reacting....
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: redstorm212 on April 18, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
If someone hears something from a reliable source,  I  would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge.  I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source.  I just don't like  when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is.  If  you're not willing to say what the  information is, then stop making the veiled references.  It isn't fair  to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging.  Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.

+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.

And you are still reacting....

Just a little Public service announcement. I'm replying to you but it doesn't mean I take anything you say anymore seriously. It pains me to see posters still taking you seriously.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: LJSA on April 18, 2014, 10:55:35 PM

I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.

The key as I see it is to get mjmaher drunk and pump him for info, because him and tr are buddies. ;D
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on April 18, 2014, 11:08:42 PM
You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.

Let's talk at this time next year.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 18, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
If someone hears something from a reliable source,  I  would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge.  I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source.  I just don't like  when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is.  If  you're not willing to say what the  information is, then stop making the veiled references.  It isn't fair  to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging.  Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.

+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.

And you are still reacting....

Just a little Public service announcement. I'm replying to you but it doesn't mean I take anything you say anymore seriously. It pains me to see posters still taking you seriously.

And it continues...
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: mjmaherjr on April 18, 2014, 11:19:08 PM

I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.

The key as I see it is to get mjmaher drunk and pump him for info, because him and tr are buddies. ;D
  LOL !!!
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Mike on April 19, 2014, 12:06:01 AM
You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.

Let's talk at this time next year.

I'm sure that's what you are hoping for.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: MullinJaxBerry on April 19, 2014, 12:41:57 AM
You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.

Maybe that`s true.
But if no NCAA appearance next year, and no Briscoe and Diallo, then I would say that he`s gone after next year.
After next year they have to either extend him or fire him, or would anyone here think that he coaches his final year without an extension? SJU wouldn`t do that would they?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: redstorm212 on April 19, 2014, 12:57:40 AM
If someone hears something from a reliable source,  I  would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge.  I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source.  I just don't like  when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is.  If  you're not willing to say what the  information is, then stop making the veiled references.  It isn't fair  to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging.  Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.

+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.

And you are still reacting....

Just a little Public service announcement. I'm replying to you but it doesn't mean I take anything you say anymore seriously. It pains me to see posters still taking you seriously.

And it continues...

 :)
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: LoganK on April 19, 2014, 08:29:18 AM
Still waiting on your response Marco Baldi...

Are you afraid to post your information, or were you lying when you said you had more of it?

Or are you just going to avoid answering the question because you don't want to admit either....
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: 96 Schermerhorn Street on April 19, 2014, 10:55:05 AM
As the expression goes he is full of it or is that $hit
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: sju89tr on April 19, 2014, 06:43:35 PM

I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.

The key as I see it is to get mjmaher drunk and pump him for info, because him and tr are buddies. ;D

Too funny

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: sju89tr on April 19, 2014, 06:46:11 PM
Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.

As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.   
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 19, 2014, 10:13:04 PM
Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.

As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.   

I post what I hear. I may expand on it and put in my own 2 cents, but  I don't make this crap up to stir the pot.  And you're right, not having a president has set the basketball program back yet again.

What's your take on Lavins actions those last 2 games? Especially leading up to the NIT?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: SJUFAN on April 20, 2014, 01:54:42 AM
Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.

As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.   

I post what I hear. I may expand on it and put in my own 2 cents, but  I don't make this crap up to stir the pot.  And you're right, not having a president has set the basketball program back yet again.

What's your take on Lavins actions those last 2 games? Especially leading up to the NIT?

What actions?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: redmen4life on April 21, 2014, 11:11:44 AM
d'angelo reading our boards:

Dangelo Harrison @DangeloHarrison
Nothing but motivation!! #UnfinishedBusiness pic.twitter.com/IiQPRsMhz5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BluQFogCQAEKs2j.jpg:large

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Tiznow on April 21, 2014, 09:14:14 PM
Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.

As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.   

I post what I hear. I may expand on it and put in my own 2 cents, but  I don't make this crap up to stir the pot.  And you're right, not having a president has set the basketball program back yet again.

What's your take on Lavins actions those last 2 games? Especially leading up to the NIT?

Hey Baldi, you post what you hear?  Does this include talking to yourself? 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on April 21, 2014, 10:07:44 PM
d'angelo reading our boards:

Dangelo Harrison @DangeloHarrison
Nothing but motivation!! #UnfinishedBusiness pic.twitter.com/IiQPRsMhz5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BluQFogCQAEKs2j.jpg:large

The funny part is that that was a sarcastic comment, Mainman is a huge Dee supporter.   
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on May 02, 2014, 12:49:02 AM
I would say Thomas to SJU is 90% done deal.  There is 1 school that's making a serious push to change his mind.  Stay positive boys
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: DFF6 on May 02, 2014, 09:08:14 AM
I would say Thomas to SJU is 90% done deal.  There is 1 school that's making a serious push to change his mind.  Stay positive boys

Funny, because I only came up with 88.64% on Thomas committing to SJU. I guess my algorithm for calculating bullsh!t percentages for what's inside a recruit's head isn't the same as yours.   
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on May 05, 2014, 10:04:33 PM
Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class.  You guys will be pleasantly surprised!
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: MCNPA on May 05, 2014, 10:11:43 PM
Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class.  You guys will be pleasantly surprised!

Let's hope...
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on May 05, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class.  You guys will be pleasantly surprised!

Let's hope...

Most will, some will pretend...
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Poison on May 05, 2014, 10:17:07 PM
Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class.  You guys will be pleasantly surprised!

We get recruits. We just need someone to coach them.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on May 05, 2014, 10:31:53 PM
Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class.  You guys will be pleasantly surprised!

Hope you're right FY.  That would be a nice jolt of enthusiasm. 

I also know you don't want to hear this, but I'm hoping one of coach's next steps is a shakeup of the staff.   They might be great guys, but the results haven't been there.   And if adjustments are going to be made, that's a place to start.   

Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: ForeverYoung on May 05, 2014, 11:14:18 PM
Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class.  You guys will be pleasantly surprised!

Hope you're right FY.  That would be a nice jolt of enthusiasm. 

I also know you don't want to hear this, but I'm hoping one of coach's next steps is a shakeup of the staff.   They might be great guys, but the results haven't been there.   And if adjustments are going to be made, that's a place to start.   



I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Foad on May 06, 2014, 08:39:38 AM
I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

As opposed to other coaches, who use a lottery system.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: nudginator59 on May 06, 2014, 08:52:36 AM
The staff as itself has changed almost by itself almost every year. This year will the first time since Lavin's 1st year that SJU will have a head coach and asst coach for a whole year.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: pmg911 on May 06, 2014, 04:11:59 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: MCNPA on May 06, 2014, 04:33:00 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

First choice or not, I hear Chiles is an excellent recruiter and very well received by recruits.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: JohnnyJungle on May 06, 2014, 08:26:51 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: paultzman on May 06, 2014, 08:50:46 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

Perhaps he is referring to "Slice" being Lav's first choice as main recruiting guy prior to Chiles assuming role.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 06, 2014, 09:01:26 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

Perhaps he is referring to "Slice" being Lav's first choice as main recruiting guy prior to Chiles assuming role.


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

Perhaps he is referring to "Slice" being Lav's first choice as main recruiting guy prior to Chiles assuming role.

Were either even interviewed?
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on May 06, 2014, 09:24:00 PM
I don't know enough to form an opinion, but what is the perception of Whitesell around the program?   
Is he being given a big enough role?   
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on May 06, 2014, 09:27:08 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

Yes he was.  The entire staff was CHOSEN by Lavin.  Let's be clear even if you were not the first choice that does not mean Lavin did not want you or CHOOSE you.

Let's differentiate:
1) There are schools that insist on staff changes and also veto candidates.  In those cases you can argue certain assistants were FORCED on a coach.
2) Then there are coaches who have free reign to make staff changes even if your first choice says no. 

Slice and Book Richardson were widely considered as well but both said no.  It happens.  BTW-In 2008 Slice, while still at Manhattan, was offered a spot on Memphis' staff by Calipari.  He said no and stayed at Manhattan.  His spot went to Josh Pastner.  So what?  Does that mean because Pastner was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked by Calipari?  That doesn't make any sense.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of not being handpicked.

The SJU staff is fine.  We have good recruiters, a well seasoned top assistant in Jim Whitesell and throw in Keady.  Nothing wrong with the staff.

This is on Lavin.  He knows it. 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on May 06, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
I'm not trying to stir the pot by saying this, but seriously, what the hell does Keady do?
It's not my money, but it really does seem like he's pulling a paycheck simply so Lavin can pull out the Buddha quote two or three times per season. 
And I know I'm not the only person on here who has been questioning this.

Fordham, Is Whitesell a big contributor to game prep and in practices? 
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: stjohnnie75 on May 06, 2014, 11:01:04 PM
I'm not trying to stir the pot by saying this, but seriously, what the hell does Keady do?
It's not my money, but it really does seem like he's pulling a paycheck simply so Lavin can pull out the Buddha quote two or three times per season. 
And I know I'm not the only person on here who has been questioning this.

Fordham, Is Whitesell a big contributor to game prep and in practices?

I hope it was Whitesell's idea to scrape the match up zone defense. The defense where they never matched up and left open shooters.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: TONYD3 on May 06, 2014, 11:17:06 PM
I think it was Whitsell's idea to scrap the matchup zone. Huge problem in my opinion is the head coach thought it was a good idea.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on May 07, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
I'm not trying to stir the pot by saying this, but seriously, what the hell does Keady do?
It's not my money, but it really does seem like he's pulling a paycheck simply so Lavin can pull out the Buddha quote two or three times per season. 
And I know I'm not the only person on here who has been questioning this.

Fordham, Is Whitesell a big contributor to game prep and in practices?

I hope it was Whitesell's idea to scrape the match up zone defense. The defense where they never matched up and left open shooters.

If true, then that alone means he earned his keep.   That matchup zone was the worst of both worlds.   Gave up penetration, and left shooters open.   
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: pmg911 on May 07, 2014, 11:41:49 AM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on May 07, 2014, 11:58:23 AM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: pmg911 on May 07, 2014, 12:47:36 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Fordham - as always you are correct.  Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him

Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?

Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bball purist on May 07, 2014, 02:03:46 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Fordham - as always you are correct.  Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him

Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?

Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order.  As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part.  ;D
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: pmg911 on May 07, 2014, 02:20:29 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Fordham - as always you are correct.  Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him

Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?

Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order.  As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part.  ;D

Honestly - that is great response
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bball purist on May 07, 2014, 02:29:31 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Fordham - as always you are correct.  Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him

Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?

Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order.  As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part.  ;D

Honestly - that is great response
Your analogy truly parallels the decision making process.  None of us ever stop at the first choice for many items/people in our lives.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: nudginator59 on May 07, 2014, 02:47:29 PM
Speaking of decisions (Millitary Decision Making Process) that's for you BBall), is time that we change the name of this thread since after eight pages the drama is still not over? Change it to future BB decisions, or what other future changes need to be made moving ahead.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: QuanMan on May 07, 2014, 03:10:49 PM
Thanks for the segue Nudginator. With the staff no longer in pursuit f Ryan Martin is our roster set? Is Jay Henderson definitely prepping? Do we look for another big via transfer/JUCO or do we hold off the remaining ship for 2015-16? Most importantly, are we comfortable to go to war next year with this roster?

I think that we're explosive and very deep at this point. I'd like more depth at the F/C, but I'm not uneasy. Then again, adding an instant scorer or added rebounding wouldn't hurt before the Spring Signing period ends.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: MCNPA on May 07, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
Thanks for the segue Nudginator. With the staff no longer in pursuit f Ryan Martin is our roster set? Is Jay Henderson definitely prepping? Do we look for another big via transfer/JUCO or do we hold off the remaining ship for 2015-16? Most importantly, are we comfortable to go to war next year with this roster?

I think that we're explosive and very deep at this point. I'd like more depth at the F/C, but I'm not uneasy. Then again, adding an instant scorer or added rebounding wouldn't hurt before the Spring Signing period ends.

I'd like to add a wing that can score but I'm doubtful there are any in the cards for us.  Not many left on the board.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: mjmaherjr on May 07, 2014, 08:25:46 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Fordham - as always you are correct.  Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him

Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?

Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order.  As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part.  ;D
I have 4 brand new tailored suits sitting on my suit rack that have been unused since I bought them 5 months ago. I don't even know why I haven't worn them yet. And they probably fit better than my others that I wear..

What the hell does that say other than I wasted a bunch of money. lol
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: JohnnyJungle on May 08, 2014, 09:01:51 AM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Just an FYI, all the CAPS just make people think you're yelling and generally that isn't a great way to get your point across. You make some fair points but you'd get further without all the CAPS.

This goes for everyone writing in CAPS does not stress your point, it just stresses everyone reading it.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: fordham96 on May 08, 2014, 09:55:42 AM
I didn't put the whole post in caps just a certain phrase or word for emphasis.

I would agree with your point if the entire post was capitalized.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: wpc77 on May 08, 2014, 10:43:50 AM
I agree with Dave; I generally ignore posts with multiple "all CAPs" phrases.  At a quick glance it denotes an emotional post which therefore is likely to be too subjective to be worthwhile
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on May 08, 2014, 10:55:08 AM
To be fair, that wasn't Fordham's post.  Using caps to occasionally highlight something is fine.  But I have never been a member of the Internet blog police.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Foad on May 08, 2014, 12:04:37 PM
Using caps to occasionally highlight something is fine. 

No, caps and exclamation points are relied upon by hack writers to disguise their inability to persuade readers by logic and rhetoric.

Quote
But I have never been a member of the Internet blog police.

Good one.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bball purist on May 08, 2014, 12:11:54 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Fordham - as always you are correct.  Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him

Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?

Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order.  As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part.  ;D
I have 4 brand new tailored suits sitting on my suit rack that have been unused since I bought them 5 months ago. I don't even know why I haven't worn them yet. And they probably fit better than my others that I wear..

What the hell does that say other than I wasted a bunch of money. lol
MJ- good stuff.  I think your vetting process was a little weak, and you took on more suits than allowed by NC2A, I mean business, needs. lol
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: bball purist on May 08, 2014, 12:14:27 PM
Thanks for the segue Nudginator. With the staff no longer in pursuit f Ryan Martin is our roster set? Is Jay Henderson definitely prepping? Do we look for another big via transfer/JUCO or do we hold off the remaining ship for 2015-16? Most importantly, are we comfortable to go to war next year with this roster?

I think that we're explosive and very deep at this point. I'd like more depth at the F/C, but I'm not uneasy. Then again, adding an instant scorer or added rebounding wouldn't hurt before the Spring Signing period ends.

I'd like to add a wing that can score but I'm doubtful there are any in the cards for us.  Not many left on the board.
Nick Faust is there for 2015 if we're willing to wait for a guy who needs to be the center of the offense.  He's been secretly whining about it for three years.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on May 08, 2014, 12:24:35 PM
 "No, caps and exclamation points are relied upon by hack writers"  -  foad


^ ha
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Tha Kid on May 08, 2014, 12:58:56 PM


I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so.  He hand picked them. 

He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice

Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.

You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.

and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.

That was never the question or the point.  Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.

The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff?  Is this the staff HE WANTS?  The answer is Yes.

Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted.  Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.

Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him.  That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember.  So what?  Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.


Just an FYI, all the CAPS just make people think you're yelling and generally that isn't a great way to get your point across. You make some fair points but you'd get further without all the CAPS.

This goes for everyone writing in CAPS does not stress your point, it just stresses everyone reading it.

I disagree, a word or two here or there capitalized is used as a way to emphasize the word.  Alternatively one could bold it.  While reading a post where caps are used on one or two words , I don't think the poster has some disorder where he interchanges between talking normally and yelling haphazardly; I realize he is using caps for emphasis.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: pmg911 on May 08, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
ALL of you CLOWNS need to RELAX -

LAVS has everything on LOCK DOWN.

My cousin's SISTER boyfriends AUNT saw LAVS at 31 FLAVORS last night and he said Thomas was a BEAST.

BALDI & PMGo F yourself - I forgot more about the RED STORM then either of you NOBODYS ever knew.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: newsman13 on May 08, 2014, 01:18:03 PM
Did SCOTCH steal PMG's login??
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Tha Kid on May 08, 2014, 01:35:29 PM
ALL of you CLOWNS need to RELAX -

LAVS has everything on LOCK DOWN.

My cousin's SISTER boyfriends AUNT saw LAVS at 31 FLAVORS last night and he said Thomas was a BEAST.

BALDI & PMGo F yourself - I forgot more about the RED STORM then either of you NOBODYS ever knew.

LOL.  Every now and then I need one of those "posts".

(http://www.inismagazine.ie/files/reviews/9781406330823.jpg)
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Mike on May 08, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
I can't believe we are discussing the proper way to use caps. I mean really do people really get upset with caps?? If that's the case I feel sorry for them.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: boo3 on May 08, 2014, 09:47:09 PM
Jordan is confident...


blackjesus ‏@____whynot  3m
9 more month my family will be set #ipromise
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Celtics11 on May 08, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
Suits, suits, I don't care about any stinking SUITS!
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: desco80 on May 09, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
So let me get this straight ....we start the season expecting to be an NCAA team: lose our first 5 conference games consecutively, lay an egg with our season on the line against Xavier, look terrible in our conference tournament game against PC, and get embarrassed in the NIT. 
 Now, Lavin signs his worst class since he's been here, and people want to change the title of this thread? 

Don't get me wrong, I hope our backcourt is elite, and can carry us while Jones, Thomas, Dom, and Obekpa collectively play meaningful roles.  I want that to happen.   

But why would you guys think we're out of the woods?   Because he signed Delarosa and a JUCO ?    Did you miss the collapse? 
Do you not  Jordan, Obekpa, and Harrison?

The drama is far from over.   When/if we sign Briscoe and Diallo, and have a solid season.  Then the program will be on more solid footing.   But I think there is a less than 10% chance that we sign both of them and make the NCAAs this coming season. 





Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: steveyl15 on May 09, 2014, 07:08:07 AM
For me, and I think most of us, watching Rysheed play last year was the highlight of the season. The guy showed flashes of outright brilliance. My excitement for next year lies in seeing what he does as a sophomore. In my opinion, the drama is "finally over" if Rysheed plays a full year and proves that he's one of the best point guards in the NCAA. If that's the case, I don't see why NCAA will be out of the question.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: nudginator59 on May 09, 2014, 11:41:12 AM
So let me get this straight ....we start the season expecting to be an NCAA team: lose our first 5 conference games consecutively, lay an egg with our season on the line against Xavier, look terrible in our conference tournament game against PC, and get embarrassed in the NIT. 
 Now, Lavin signs his worst class since he's been here, and people want to change the title of this thread? 

Don't get me wrong, I hope our backcourt is elite, and can carry us while Jones, Thomas, Dom, and Obekpa collectively play meaningful roles.  I want that to happen.   

But why would you guys think we're out of the woods?   Because he signed Delarosa and a JUCO ?    Did you miss the collapse? 
Do you not  Jordan, Obekpa, and Harrison?

The drama is far from over.   When/if we sign Briscoe and Diallo, and have a solid season.  Then the program will be on more solid footing.   But I think there is a less than 10% chance that we sign both of them and make the NCAAs this coming season. 



The title said the drama is finally over, which clearly it isn't after 9 pages.

-The hope is that Jordan will get better quicker and and start off better then last year. Hopefully there is no more personal drama and any attitude or issues with Lavin are over with.

-The same goes with CO, by coming back to SJU his attitude should be different and if he wants to jump to the NBA he will need a no drama season. If he can continue to improve on his offense he can be a threat down low which will free up Jordan and Harrison. This also may help absorb the missed points with Sampsons departure.

Thomas and Diallo can be better team additions. Hopefully Thomas' rebounding skills carry over to D-1, and he continues willing to do the dirty work. Diallo is a big body and by just being in the middle should help the team...Hopefully he is also willing to do the dirty work.

-Whitesell will have a full year to implement a system and this should help tremendously.
-Who is that walk on that is supposedly a great 3pt shooter? We do not burn any scholarships and he is probably more athletic then hooper. If he does slightly better that is a bonus.

-Losing God'sgift and Sanchez hurt, but Sanchez was not the player we thought he was an he never really banged bodies. Besides losing big bodies how big of a loss are they...I am honestly asking?

-Can SirDominic play any worse...He has to play better right?
-I think Harrison will do everything in his power to make the tournament.


Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: Celtics11 on May 09, 2014, 03:40:10 PM
The walk on Myles Steward is described as a streaky shooter and will be a frosh. Hooper was in his third year and was a steady shooter. maybe Steward can develop but let's not rely on a walk on frosh.
Title: Re: drama is finally over
Post by: nudginator59 on May 09, 2014, 06:05:41 PM
The walk on Myles Steward is described as a streaky shooter and will be a frosh. Hooper was in his third year and was a steady shooter. maybe Steward can develop but let's not rely on a walk on frosh.

Is Myles Steward more atheltic and will he be able to keep up with D-1 players.
He defiantly can be a diamond in the rough. Couldn't Hooper be considered a streaky shooter or was it he didn't play enough to get comfortable in game situations?