6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: JohnnyJungle on March 22, 2017, 05:57:23 PM
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So I have no factual or even hearsay evidence that these guys would be leaving but just trying to guess maybe some names who might transfer and also have some fun on the board besides coach talk.
Charlie Moore- Cal - Played with LoVett, new coach which is always a possible exit card. Did get a lot of min + shots.
Curtis Jones - Indiana - Long time love for this kid. Have known him since 6th grade and he's always been silky smooth guard. Would really benefit from a sit out bulk up year
Mark Vital - Baylor - Not really sure if he redshirted, wasn't cleared, or what but this kid is a freak.
Kobe Simmons - Arizona - Fell out of favor there at the end of the year. He's a ridiculous talent.
Dejon Jarreau - UMass - Was a massive coupe for the minutemen but maybe he wants to play on bigger stage?
Deandre Hunter - UVA - Redshirted there. Maybe he's getting homesick.
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With Gottfried being out at NC State is Maverick Rowan a possibility or has that ship sailed?
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With Gottfried being out at NC State is Maverick Rowan a possibility or has that ship sailed?
Add him to the list. These are all hypotheticals so why not.
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UVA has lost a few guys already, so your UVA guy might be looking at decent PT there next season
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Austin Nichols
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Austin Nichols
Signed with agent and going into the draft.
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Austin Nichols
Signed with agent and going into the draft.
Damn
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I'm hoping for some guy who is immediately eligible rather than a guy who has to sit a year. If a guy can't help us next year, then there will be less improvement in the SJU Basketball profile, making SJU a less inviting landing spot for 2018 kids. If the program profile still has a few warts, the 4* kids will sign elsewhere and SJU will end up filling roster spots with 3* kids or more transfers, making 2019 the big recruiting year. Then the critics will start dissing the coach's skills, leading to speculation that the coach will leave, leading SJU towards a DePaul death spiral.
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I'm hoping for some guy who is immediately eligible rather than a guy who has to sit a year. If a guy can't help us next year, then there will be less improvement in the SJU Basketball profile, making SJU a less inviting landing spot for 2018 kids. If the program profile still has a few warts, the 4* kids will sign elsewhere and SJU will end up filling roster spots with 3* kids or more transfers, making 2019 the big recruiting year. Then the critics will start dissing the coach's skills, leading to speculation that the coach will leave, leading SJU towards a DePaul death spiral.
I sense you could see both.
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Are any of these guys 8 or 9 a game rebounders ,who can catch a Lovett pass and dunk or make a put back and play decent defense?
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I'm hoping for some guy who is immediately eligible rather than a guy who has to sit a year. If a guy can't help us next year, then there will be less improvement in the SJU Basketball profile, making SJU a less inviting landing spot for 2018 kids. If the program profile still has a few warts, the 4* kids will sign elsewhere and SJU will end up filling roster spots with 3* kids or more transfers, making 2019 the big recruiting year. Then the critics will start dissing the coach's skills, leading to speculation that the coach will leave, leading SJU towards a DePaul death spiral.
I sense you could see both.
Would be great and help us prepare for any departures following next season.
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
Doughty definitely, but could Brandon Sampson even play here?
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
Doughty definitely, but could Brandon Sampson even play here?
He already sat out. Why would he transfer?
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
Doughty definitely, but could Brandon Sampson even play here?
Stats last year were solid for a sophmore. 12 ppg, 47% FG pct, 34% from 3, 78% from the line. I would take him for sure.
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
Doughty definitely, but could Brandon Sampson even play here?
Why?
Doughty signed an NLI, so not sure he could transfer back to a BE school although if he was academically ineligible the NLI becomes Null and Void.
Sampson never signed so there are no issues with him.
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I think the Sampson ship has sailed regardless. I'm really surprised LSU was that bad. Mays, Blakeney, Sampson is a pretty dynamic backcourt.
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I think the Sampson ship has sailed regardless. I'm really surprised LSU was that bad. Mays, Blakeney, Sampson is a pretty dynamic backcourt.
They had the best player in college basketball in 15-16 and a decent roster around him and didn't sniff the tournament. Them being terrible again with Johnny Jones this season shouldn't have surprised you
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I think we should add two grad transfer big men and a freshman or transfer big, if possible. If a guard leaves, that changes things, but I expect a couple of players to hit the road after realizing that they in over their heads in this conference.
Perhaps someone like Amar Alibegovic will transfer down to a less conference? You know, the ACC. In all seriousness, he's a D2 player, and would be wise to play at his own level so he can get on the floor. Ellison is another that I wonder about. He could be great one day, but now he's a mess.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
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Chase Jeter
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
Doughty definitely, but could Brandon Sampson even play here?
Why?
Doughty signed an NLI, so not sure he could transfer back to a BE school although if he was academically ineligible the NLI becomes Null and Void.
Sampson never signed so there are no issues with him.
Doighty signed an NLI with us not another Big East school so of course he can transfer back here without a problem. I don't see why he would want to, though, since this staff didn't want him the first time around.
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
Doughty definitely, but could Brandon Sampson even play here?
Why?
Doughty signed an NLI, so not sure he could transfer back to a BE school although if he was academically ineligible the NLI becomes Null and Void.
Sampson never signed so there are no issues with him.
Doighty signed an NLI with us not another Big East school so of course he can transfer back here without a problem. I don't see why he would want to, though, since this staff didn't want him the first time around.
No he can't if it was valid. I don't believe it is currently valid anyway.
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Chase Jeter
Think he goes closer to home back west. I'd love him though. Loves to rebound.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
Actually, I'm assuming Yakwe stays about the same. Owens Clark Yakwe + tbd grad transfer space eater is plenty of depth up front. I'd rather make sure we have ample playmakers on the perimeter on both sides of the ball than take a second big man transfer.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
Don't need 2.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
Actually, I'm assuming Yakwe stays about the same. Owens Clark Yakwe + tbd grad transfer space eater is plenty of depth up front. I'd rather make sure we have ample playmakers on the perimeter on both sides of the ball than take a second big man transfer.
^^^ This.
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I'm a huge fan of Charlie Moore, so he'd always be a welcome addition. I'd like to add three transfers: two grad transfers and a sign and sit. Give me Geno Thorpe to play some D give some versatility on the perimeter as a grad transfer. Then a big man grad transfer like Marin Maric (hasn't said he'll transfer yet but is rumored). Alternatively, George King of Colorado would be a great get as a big SG/SF grad transfer who can score (also hasn't announced)...although the coach at Colorado somehow has been able to convince a ton of similar players at the same position to stay and play smaller roles than they deserve.
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Charlie Moore, Brandon Sampson & Antonio Blakeney, Samir Doughty, C.J Bryce (UNCW)
Doughty definitely, but could Brandon Sampson even play here?
Why?
Doughty signed an NLI, so not sure he could transfer back to a BE school although if he was academically ineligible the NLI becomes Null and Void.
Sampson never signed so there are no issues with him.
Doighty signed an NLI with us not another Big East school so of course he can transfer back here without a problem. I don't see why he would want to, though, since this staff didn't want him the first time around.
No he can't if it was valid. I don't believe it is currently valid anyway.
You think a kid can't come back to the SAME Big East school he signed his NLI with? That's absurd. The purpose of the rule is to prevent intraconference transfers.
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I'm a huge fan of Charlie Moore, so he'd always be a welcome addition. I'd like to add three transfers: two grad transfers and a sign and sit. Give me Geno Thorpe to play some D give some versatility on the perimeter as a grad transfer. Then a big man grad transfer like Marin Maric (hasn't said he'll transfer yet but is rumored). Alternatively, George King of Colorado would be a great get as a big SG/SF grad transfer who can score (also hasn't announced)...although the coach at Colorado somehow has been able to convince a ton of similar players at the same position to stay and play smaller roles than they deserve.
Don't think 2 immediate transfers is going to happen. Think if a grad transfer happens it will be in front court.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
It's fair to expect Owens to come back better with more weight since weight/strength was his only limitation. Clarke is also a monster at 6'7 235 and he Ahmed could easily handle 20 mpg at
the four. Williams proved he can be a decent 10-12 mpg guy and projects to be even better next year if he can be healthy. Than there is Yakwe. If he stays the same, he can be another 10-12 mpg guy...more on those nights he brings it or there is foul trouble. Amar, if he stays, would be a safety valve who can play 5 mpg around the TV timeouts when teams out in the bottom of their depth.
I think we could get through the season with what we have if certain guys come back stronger and in shape. One grad transfer that can score down low and rebound would be enough.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
Actually, I'm assuming Yakwe stays about the same. Owens Clark Yakwe + tbd grad transfer space eater is plenty of depth up front. I'd rather make sure we have ample playmakers on the perimeter on both sides of the ball than take a second big man transfer.
Fair enough. I keep forgetting that Williams should be back next year. We definitely need another big and another playmaker never hurts.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
It's fair to expect Owens to come back better with more weight since weight/strength was his only limitation. Clarke is also a monster at 6'7 235 and he Ahmed could easily handle 20 mpg at
the four. Williams proved he can be a decent 10-12 mpg guy and projects to be even better next year if he can be healthy. Than there is Yakwe. If he stays the same, he can be another 10-12 mpg guy...more on those nights he brings it or there is foul trouble. Amar, if he stays, would be a safety valve who can play 5 mpg around the TV timeouts when teams out in the bottom of their depth.
I think we could get through the season with what we have if certain guys come back stronger and in shape. One grad transfer that can score down low and rebound would be enough.
Bash at the 4? He'll get killed by bigger teams. Clarke is the big wildcard for our frontcourt to me. If he performs than I agree one big is enough. Williams should play a bigger role next year too I agree on that.
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Need bigs and more bigs. Guys who can rebound and bang. Guards are a luxury for this team right now.
We really only need 1 big fitting that description assuming Yakwe stays. Higher on my wish list is a dynamic SF who can slash and defend, and I love the sound of a Charlie Moore type playmaker on layaway for 18-19.
I'd rather have 2. You're assuming that Yakwe makes some grand improvement next year and becomes a rebounder/offensive post presence which he currently is not. That's quite a leap of faith in him and I'm not buying it until I see it.
It's fair to expect Owens to come back better with more weight since weight/strength was his only limitation. Clarke is also a monster at 6'7 235 and he Ahmed could easily handle 20 mpg at
the four. Williams proved he can be a decent 10-12 mpg guy and projects to be even better next year if he can be healthy. Than there is Yakwe. If he stays the same, he can be another 10-12 mpg guy...more on those nights he brings it or there is foul trouble. Amar, if he stays, would be a safety valve who can play 5 mpg around the TV timeouts when teams out in the bottom of their depth.
I think we could get through the season with what we have if certain guys come back stronger and in shape. One grad transfer that can score down low and rebound would be enough.
Bash at the 4? He'll get killed by bigger teams. Clarke is the big wildcard for our frontcourt to me. If he performs than I agree one big is enough. Williams should play a bigger role next year too I agree on that.
Did he get killed this year playing the four? I dont want him playing exclusively there but he can handle minutes upfront.
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Ahmed is a really bad defender. At the 3 he constantly loses his guy on the permiter resulting in way to many open 3's. When he plays the 4 we get absolutely killed on the boards.
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Ahmed is a really bad defender. At the 3 he constantly loses his guy on the permiter resulting in way to many open 3's. When he plays the 4 we get absolutely killed on the boards.
Would venture that our getting killed on the boards had much more to do with our starting center averaging 3 rbs a game. Just me.
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Ahmed is a really bad defender. At the 3 he constantly loses his guy on the permiter resulting in way to many open 3's. When he plays the 4 we get absolutely killed on the boards.
Would venture that our getting killed on the boards had much more to do with our starting center averaging 3 rbs a game. Just me.
Agree. He didn't rebound and couldn't guard anyone either.
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Ahmed is a really bad defender. At the 3 he constantly loses his guy on the permiter resulting in way to many open 3's. When he plays the 4 we get absolutely killed on the boards.
Been saying it for awhile, he needs to come off the bench. The guy is uncoachable
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one true big guy, 6-8+ and 230+ who can catch the ball
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Ahmed is a really bad defender. At the 3 he constantly loses his guy on the permiter resulting in way to many open 3's. When he plays the 4 we get absolutely killed on the boards.
Been saying it for awhile, he needs to come off the bench. The guy is uncoachable
Bull in a China shop
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Lets keep in mind that grad transfers save ships for what SJUBB expects to be a monster class
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Throwing darts on this one.
Lindy Waters III
Coaches seem to be bolting from there left and right maybe he would too?
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Not the rebounding machine I dream of, immediately eligible. but here's one guy to consider: http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/nick-king
Started at Memphis, transferred to Alabama and now transferring again?
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Not the rebounding machine I dream of, immediately eligible. but here's one guy to consider: http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/nick-king
Started at Memphis, transferred to Alabama and now transferring again?
Doesn't seem like much of an upgrade with those terrible #s at Alabama. It would be very disappointing if both Clark and Ahmed weren't better than that next year. It looks like he was caught playing behind two freshmen and got out of Dodge.
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has the kid from LIU Frink announced he was transferring yet? I think he should be the Staff's first priority on grad transfer market 17 and 10 last year.
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has the kid from LIU Frink announced he was transferring yet? I think he should be the Staff's first priority on grad transfer market 17 and 10 last year.
He has eligibility left?
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hmm i am not sure now...i thought i saw on this board..maybe redmen as a potential option but looking at his career stats i think you are right and he has finished up. Oh well on to the next one.
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hmm i am not sure now...i thought i saw on this board..maybe redmen as a potential option but looking at his career stats i think you are right and he has finished up. Oh well on to the next one.
Would have been a nice addition. Horse rebounder we need
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Agreed and at this age/development I think he can play in bigger conferences.
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Saw these two names on the transfer list look good. Jack Whitman from William & Mary and Kerem Kanter from Wisc Green Bay
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Saw these two names on the transfer list look good. Jack Whitman from William & Mary and Kerem Kanter from Wisc Green Bay
Kanter is the best fit for us available thus far. It can't hurt having his brother around either.
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Mark Donnal from Michigan transferring. 6'9" 240 a four star recruit once apron a time. Immediately eligible.
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A little small, but immediately eligible :
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/nick-king
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Zags re Peter Kiss transfer from Quinnipiac
So far, he's received interest from St. John's, Cal, seton hall, auburn, & Fordham.
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Per Julius Kim
Miami (OH) freshman PG transfer Michael Weathers has heard from: Miami (FL), St. John's, GW, Creighton, Tulsa, & Valpo, he tells me.
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Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 3 hours ago
Rice transfer Marcus Evans has heard from VCU, NC State, Kansas, St Johns, Cincinnati, A&M, VT, Creighton, Texas Tech, Baylor, FSU & Miami
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Saw these two names on the transfer list look good. Jack Whitman from William & Mary and Kerem Kanter from Wisc Green Bay
Kanter is the best fit for us available thus far. It can't hurt having his brother around either.
He looks mainly like an outside chucker. We need a big to play ,more inside. I like the Donnal kid too. Big kid, can score inside and step out a little. That Michigan team was so loaded he lost minutes. I do think the staff already knows who they want and will likely land, but I doubt it's one we've heard of yet.
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When can transfers choose their new schools?
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Per Julius Kim
Miami (OH) freshman PG transfer Michael Weathers has heard from: Miami (FL), St. John's, GW, Creighton, Tulsa, & Valpo, he tells me.
Paultz,
Any ideas (guesses ) who will be our first signee and when. Are we closer with anyone above the others ?
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Per Julius Kim
Miami (OH) freshman PG transfer Michael Weathers has heard from: Miami (FL), St. John's, GW, Creighton, Tulsa, & Valpo, he tells me.
Paultz,
Any ideas (guesses ) who will be our first signee and when. Are we closer with anyone above the others ?
Just hearing a solid player, but no specific guy. We should hear something on visits soon.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
I don't see how that is a problem since a kid from Colorado St and a kid from Nebraska (two schools who did nothing last year) made Syracuse (a Final Four team last year) better this year than they would have been otherwise.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
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I do believe there players from smaller schools who can certainly help a high-major, as been proven. I'm gonna surmise Baldi is saying, they must not feel comfortable with many of their 2018 targets. I could wrong, but that's my assumption.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
I don't want Quinnipiac's bench players playing for St. John's either. But their two best players that were both Freshmen this past season who will sit a year and then have 3 more years left will probably be solid players here.
By your logic Florida shouldn't have taken in Canyon Barry. Xavier shouldn't have taken Malcolm Bernard and Rashid Gaston. Villanova shouldn't have taken Paschall. Creighton shouldn't have taken Mo Watson. I could keep going, but you get the point. Are the two Quinnipiac players as good as any of these guys mentioned? Maybe not, but you don't pass on them just because they were under-recruited and had to play a year at Quinnipiac before people noticed they were any good
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Which 2018 package deal would you rather have?
A.) Weathers twins
B.) Kiss and Dixon
C.) Empty 2018 cupboard and shoot for tri-state stars Moses/Luther/Naz etc.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
I don't want Quinnipiac's bench players playing for St. John's either. But their two best players that were both Freshmen this past season who will sit a year and then have 3 more years left will probably be solid players here.
By your logic Florida shouldn't have taken in Canyon Barry. Xavier shouldn't have taken Malcolm Bernard and Rashid Gaston. Villanova shouldn't have taken Paschall. Creighton shouldn't have taken Mo Watson. I could keep going, but you get the point. Are the two Quinnipiac players as good as any of these guys mentioned? Maybe not, but you don't pass on them just because they were under-recruited and had to play a year at Quinnipiac before people noticed they were any good
All I am saying is until proven otherwise I am not too excited about two guys from Quinnipiac.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
I don't want Quinnipiac's bench players playing for St. John's either. But their two best players that were both Freshmen this past season who will sit a year and then have 3 more years left will probably be solid players here.
By your logic Florida shouldn't have taken in Canyon Barry. Xavier shouldn't have taken Malcolm Bernard and Rashid Gaston. Villanova shouldn't have taken Paschall. Creighton shouldn't have taken Mo Watson. I could keep going, but you get the point. Are the two Quinnipiac players as good as any of these guys mentioned? Maybe not, but you don't pass on them just because they were under-recruited and had to play a year at Quinnipiac before people noticed they were any good
All I am saying is until proven otherwise I am not too excited about two guys from Quinnipiac.
I'm not excited about them like I would be a Marcus Evans for example, but good players are good players no matter where they come from.
That said, Dixon has far better numbers pretty much across the board in the advanced metrics than Kiss but Kiss seems to be slightly more sought after probably because he's 3 inches taller. We'll see how it shakes out
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
I don't want Quinnipiac's bench players playing for St. John's either. But their two best players that were both Freshmen this past season who will sit a year and then have 3 more years left will probably be solid players here.
By your logic Florida shouldn't have taken in Canyon Barry. Xavier shouldn't have taken Malcolm Bernard and Rashid Gaston. Villanova shouldn't have taken Paschall. Creighton shouldn't have taken Mo Watson. I could keep going, but you get the point. Are the two Quinnipiac players as good as any of these guys mentioned? Maybe not, but you don't pass on them just because they were under-recruited and had to play a year at Quinnipiac before people noticed they were any good
All I am saying is until proven otherwise I am not too excited about two guys from Quinnipiac.
I'm not excited about them like I would be a Marcus Evans for example, but good players are good players no matter where they come from.
That said, Dixon has far better numbers pretty much across the board in the advanced metrics than Kiss but Kiss seems to be slightly higher sought after probably because he's 3 inches taller. We'll see how it shakes out
Ive seen both a few times and they had a huge green light. Coach trying to save job and just a bad team. Not saying that's a bad thing, but numbers may be a little warped
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I would be more excited for a transfer from a good school that did not p[lay much then a transfer from a small school that had inflated stats. I am pretty excited for Simon / Clark. I would have zero excitement if say Jordan Washington had a year of eligibility left and was coming here to play. ;)
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Ive seen both a few times and they had a huge green light. Coach trying to save job and just a bad team. Not saying that's a bad thing, but numbers may be a little warped
Sounds about right. Their shooting %s should go up if they go to a place where they can be more selective with their shots, although Dixon's %s were decent. I wonder if this is a package deal or not
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I would be more excited for a transfer from a good school that did not p[lay much then a transfer from a small school that had inflated stats. I am pretty excited for Simon / Clark. I would have zero excitement if say Jordan Washington had a year of eligibility left and was coming here to play. ;)
Ha. Washington would have ate Yakwe's lunch and then used Owens as his toothpick
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
I guess the 19 points he dropped on them this season convinced them.
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
I guess the 19 points he dropped on them this season convinced them.
Poor Matt has some competition
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
I'm with baldi and wasju. Two recruits from quinnipiac would be extremely disappointing.
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
I guess the 19 points he dropped on them this season convinced them.
Poor Matt has some competition
Still beating this drum, I see.
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
I'm with baldi and wasju. Two recruits from quinnipiac would be extremely disappointing.
Until they go to Seton Hall and are key players in beating us 2x a year
12 & 6 and 17 & 5...numbers off the bench that a player put up this year against us who transferred from a shitty team whos coach got fired.
Any guesses whom?
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
I guess the 19 points he dropped on them this season convinced them.
Poor Matt has some competition
Still beating this drum, I see.
Lets.get some recruits
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Looks like we are targeting both Kiss and Dixon from Quinnipiac
Both Freshman and both leading scorers for a 10 win team last season.
I'm guessing the allure of playing together again will be strong
Guess we aren't comfortable in that 18 class
I thought we weren't supposed to save scholarships, we were supposed to recruit over guys like big boy programs do. No more?
So you consider "recruiting over" from a team that finished 8th in the MAAC?
Last week in the Matt A thread you were asked where scholarships were going to come from. You said "You recruit over players, like big boy programs do". Now you are worried that we won't have any scholarships left for 2018. Ok.
Matt is going out and trying to get all the talent that he can and the scholarship stuff will work itself out when the time comes. We are going to have at least 3 players transfer from the team this offseason. That is not an anomaly. That is now the norm in college basketball. If these kids from Quinnipiac will help, make room and bring them in, which is what the staff is doing. The same will happen with 2018 recruits.
The problem is, is that the kids from Quinnipiac will make the team better.
Yeah, picking up solid transfers from low majors is a terrible idea. It's not like the only elite 8 team from our conference had a transfer from Florida A&M and a transfer from Norfolk St contribute this year. Oh wait...
I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I have no problem "trimming the fat" but not if you are just going to bring in more fat.
I'm with baldi and wasju. Two recruits from quinnipiac would be extremely disappointing.
Until they go to Seton Hall and are key players in beating us 2x a year
12 & 6 and 17 & 5...numbers off the bench that a player put up this year against us who transferred from a shitty team whos coach got fired.
Any guesses whom?
I wouldn't put much stock on what players did against our defense.
Divincenzo is going to be really good but he looked like Jerry West against us.
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I wouldn't put much stock on what players did against our defense.
Divincenzo is going to be really good but he looked like Jerry West against us.
Fair. Put up 19 and 6 against Creighton though. 12 and 6 at Providence.
I'm just saying I think taking kids from low majors who can score and have them coming off your bench can make a team better.
I dont know what the issue is for players who are young and put up 15+ PPG backing up our two studs (Lovett and Ponds) I dont think any transfers from Kentucky, Arizona, Duke, etc. that some of you would prefer would leave those teams because of lack of playing time just to come to Queens and be backups.
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I wouldn't put much stock on what players did against our defense.
Divincenzo is going to be really good but he looked like Jerry West against us.
Fair. Put up 19 and 6 against Creighton though. 12 and 6 at Providence.
I'm just saying I think taking kids from low majors who can score and have them coming off your bench can make a team better.
I dont know what the issue is for players who are young and put up 15+ PPG backing up our two studs (Lovett and Ponds) I dont think any transfers from Kentucky, Arizona, Duke, etc. that some of you would prefer would leave those teams because of lack of playing time just to come to Queens and be backups.
Again just saying would not throw Matt a ticker tape for getting two fifths of the Quinnipiac basketball starting 5.
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I wouldn't put much stock on what players did against our defense.
Divincenzo is going to be really good but he looked like Jerry West against us.
Fair. Put up 19 and 6 against Creighton though. 12 and 6 at Providence.
I'm just saying I think taking kids from low majors who can score and have them coming off your bench can make a team better.
I dont know what the issue is for players who are young and put up 15+ PPG backing up our two studs (Lovett and Ponds) I dont think any transfers from Kentucky, Arizona, Duke, etc. that some of you would prefer would leave those teams because of lack of playing time just to come to Queens and be backups.
So you think both Lovett and Ponds back for 2018?
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I wouldn't put much stock on what players did against our defense.
Divincenzo is going to be really good but he looked like Jerry West against us.
Fair. Put up 19 and 6 against Creighton though. 12 and 6 at Providence.
I'm just saying I think taking kids from low majors who can score and have them coming off your bench can make a team better.
I dont know what the issue is for players who are young and put up 15+ PPG backing up our two studs (Lovett and Ponds) I dont think any transfers from Kentucky, Arizona, Duke, etc. that some of you would prefer would leave those teams because of lack of playing time just to come to Queens and be backups.
So you think both Lovett and Ponds back for 2018?
i do actually. Think Ponds hangs around until his Junior year at the least. Think we'll play this will he stay/will he go game with Lovett a few more times as well but I think he'll also stick around.
DeAngelo Harrison was supposed to leave every single offseason but he came back year after year, became one of the best scorers in school history and has the St Johns logo tattooed on his body.
But we are consistently targeting guards so maybe the staff has more knowledge about the future of those two that I dont.
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
Can everyone tell who their mentor was growing up?
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I wouldn't put much stock on what players did against our defense.
Divincenzo is going to be really good but he looked like Jerry West against us.
Fair. Put up 19 and 6 against Creighton though. 12 and 6 at Providence.
I'm just saying I think taking kids from low majors who can score and have them coming off your bench can make a team better.
I dont know what the issue is for players who are young and put up 15+ PPG backing up our two studs (Lovett and Ponds) I dont think any transfers from Kentucky, Arizona, Duke, etc. that some of you would prefer would leave those teams because of lack of playing time just to come to Queens and be backups.
So you think both Lovett and Ponds back for 2018?
i do actually. Think Ponds hangs around until his Junior year at the least. Think we'll play this will he stay/will he go game with Lovett a few more times as well but I think he'll also stick around.
DeAngelo Harrison was supposed to leave every single offseason but he came back year after year, became one of the best scorers in school history and has the St Johns logo tattooed on his body.
But we are consistently targeting guards so maybe the staff has more knowledge about the future of those two that I dont.
Would be shocked if LoVett returns in 18.
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
Can everyone tell who their mentor was growing up?
Hugh Hefner
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
Can everyone tell who their mentor was growing up?
Hugh Hefner
Ron Jeremy
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
You know what. You're absolutely right, we should strive higher than players from shitty conferences like the MAAC
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
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Looking forward to hearing names that will visit which should be a good sign of who the top targets are
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Just a notice for people who think this may mean something.
Dixon and Abdellmassih are now "mutuals" on Twitter. Meaning they both have followed each other in the last day or so
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
Good thing e SJU recruiting guru realized that
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
Good thing e SJU recruiting guru realized that
Too bad Grasso hasn't.
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
Good thing e SJU recruiting guru realized that
Too bad Grasso hasn't.
Like you said. Different situation
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
Good thing e SJU recruiting guru realized that
Too bad Grasso hasn't.
Like you said. Different situation
Happy to hear you say that. Hopefully your admission about the lack of quality basketball in the MAAC will be reflected moving forward when you talk about the hard road SJU faces in its quest for national relevance, something Iona will never achieve.
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
Good thing e SJU recruiting guru realized that
Too bad Grasso hasn't.
Like you said. Different situation
Happy to hear you say that. Hopefully your admission about the lack of quality basketball in the MAAC will be reflected moving forward when you talk about the hard road SJU faces in its quest for national relevance, something Iona will never achieve.
Maybe someday St Johns will make a tournament, there are 4 of them
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
Can everyone tell who their mentor was growing up?
Mentor is Caucasian for handler.
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
Good thing e SJU recruiting guru realized that
Too bad Grasso hasn't.
Like you said. Different situation
Happy to hear you say that. Hopefully your admission about the lack of quality basketball in the MAAC will be reflected moving forward when you talk about the hard road SJU faces in its quest for national relevance, something Iona will never achieve.
Maybe someday St Johns will make a tournament, there are 4 of them
How much would you like to wager that SJU makes one of those four tournaments before Iona is a vaguely relevant college basketball program? Pick a number, I'll give you your choice of odds.
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Per Zags
Seton Hall offered Quinnipiac transfer Peter Kiss and he plans to visit within the next coming weeks, per his mentor.
I guess the 19 points he dropped on them this season convinced them.
Poor Matt has some competition
We get it. You don't like Matt. Point is very clear: don't need to beat this incredibly dead horse.
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From zagoria
St. John's just offered transferring Quinnipiac G Peter Kiss, he tells me.
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From zagoria
St. John's just offered transferring Quinnipiac G Peter Kiss, he tells me.
Apparently the offer was to replace Baldi as the MAAC forum expert. The higher ups are not happy with Baldi's new allegiance to Marquette and think it is adversely affecting his trolling.
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Generally speaking if you hear a recruit being linked to a school on transfer wire that means they aren't coming. If you don't hear a name at all that's a good thing.
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I am siding with Bluto on this one. My friend sat the bench for Quinnipiac and I would not have wanted him to play for ST John's. I have to think that Williams, Amar and especially Ellison would be Quinnipiac's best players.
I also agree with Baldi. As he says, the MAAC is a low level league and it's likely few MAAC players would thrive in a high D1 league like the BE. Hopefully we don't recruit too many players from mid majors like Quinnipiac and Iona.
No need to recruit too many players from mid majors when you can get them straight out of high school
Again we agree. Most MAAC players are no better than high school seniors.
Good thing e SJU recruiting guru realized that
Too bad Grasso hasn't.
Like you said. Different situation
Happy to hear you say that. Hopefully your admission about the lack of quality basketball in the MAAC will be reflected moving forward when you talk about the hard road SJU faces in its quest for national relevance, something Iona will never achieve.
Maybe someday St Johns will make a tournament, there are 4 of them
How much would you like to wager that SJU makes one of those four tournaments before Iona is a vaguely relevant college basketball program? Pick a number, I'll give you your choice of odds.
Relevant and St Johns in the same sentence? Someone stop feeding this guy the Zima
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Generally speaking if you hear a recruit being linked to a school on transfer wire that means they aren't coming. If you don't hear a name at all that's a good thing.
We were linked to Simon and Clark Jr last year before they eventually popped for us
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Generally speaking if you hear a recruit being linked to a school on transfer wire that means they aren't coming. If you don't hear a name at all that's a good thing.
so Matt is following people randomly on twitter to throw us off ? that's diabolical. I love it
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Generally speaking if you hear a recruit being linked to a school on transfer wire that means they aren't coming. If you don't hear a name at all that's a good thing.
Does that also apply when being linked to other coaching jobs?
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Generally speaking if you hear a recruit being linked to a school on transfer wire that means they aren't coming. If you don't hear a name at all that's a good thing.
We were linked to Simon and Clark Jr last year before they eventually popped for us
+1. I don't find that to be the case
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I was curious to see what seton hall fans thought about Kiss and I stumbled on a thread that listed grad transfers we are pursuing according to one of their posters. Obviously have no idea what this guys knows and doesn't know but list as follows.
Nura Zanna F. 6'7" LIU
Ahmed Hamdy F. 6'9" VCU
Sean Obi F. 6'9" F Duke
Kerem Kanter C. 6'10" Wisconsin/ Green Bay
Kameron Rooks C. 7'0" Cal.
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I was curious to see what seton hall fans thought about Kiss and I stumbled on a thread that listed grad transfers we are pursuing according to one of their posters. Obviously have no idea what this guys knows and doesn't know but list as follows.
Nura Zanna F. 6'7" LIU
Ahmed Hamdy F. 6'9" VCU
Sean Obi F. 6'9" F Duke
Kerem Kanter C. 6'10" Wisconsin/ Green Bay
Kameron Rooks C. 7'0" Cal.
At this point we'll take any of them. I've seen Hamdy play several times and he's active down in the post.
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Generally speaking if you hear a recruit being linked to a school on transfer wire that means they aren't coming. If you don't hear a name at all that's a good thing.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria:
Auburn's Mustapha Heron is considering transferring. Will make a decision in the next two weeks, per source.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria:
Auburn's Mustapha Heron is considering transferring. Will make a decision in the next two weeks, per source.
Maybe he wants a raise
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Per Zach B
Hearing visits to St. John's in works for transfers Mikey Dixon, Peter Kiss, Steven Enoch and Michael Weathers. #sjubb
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Michael Weathers, Miami of Ohio transfer guard, tells me his visit to St. John's will be April 14th and 15th. #sjubb
Braziller
Mickey Dixon of Quinniapiac visits next weekend per Jeff Borzello
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria:
Auburn's Mustapha Heron is considering transferring. Will make a decision in the next two weeks, per source.
👍🏽
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria:
Auburn's Mustapha Heron is considering transferring. Will make a decision in the next two weeks, per source.
Maybe he wants a raise
Who would leave a place as wonderful as Alabama?
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Michael Weathers, Miami of Ohio transfer guard, tells me his visit to St. John's will be April 14th and 15th. #sjubb
Braziller
Mickey Dixon of Quinniapiac visits next weekend per Jeff Borzello
Evidently the Weathers' twins are NOT a package deal BTW.
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Michael Weathers, Miami of Ohio transfer guard, tells me his visit to St. John's will be April 14th and 15th. #sjubb
Braziller
Mickey Dixon of Quinniapiac visits next weekend per Jeff Borzello
Very interesting avatar there
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria:
Auburn's Mustapha Heron is considering transferring. Will make a decision in the next two weeks, per source.
Maybe he wants a raise
Where is Slice
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Michael Weathers, Miami of Ohio transfer guard, tells me his visit to St. John's will be April 14th and 15th. #sjubb
Braziller
Mickey Dixon of Quinniapiac visits next weekend per Jeff Borzello
Very interesting avatar there
Promising
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If Heron is legitimately available and there is mutual interest he should go to the top of the transfer target list for guards.
Then Dixon, Weathers erc...
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Mustapaha is homesick?
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If Heron is legitimately available and there is mutual interest he should go to the top of the transfer target list for guards.
Then Dixon, Weathers erc...
+1
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If Heron is legitimately available and there is mutual interest he should go to the top of the transfer target list for guards.
Then Dixon, Weathers erc...
Agree. Should be the top option by a wide margin too
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We just landed the best transfer available, LoVett.
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If Heron is legitimately available and there is mutual interest he should go to the top of the transfer target list for guards.
Then Dixon, Weathers erc...
There is no question he's light years above anyone available. With the right mindset, he's a kid that can do serious damage in the late stages of the NCAA tournament. He's a championship level wing.
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If Heron is legitimately available and there is mutual interest he should go to the top of the transfer target list for guards.
Then Dixon, Weathers erc...
There is no question he's light years above anyone available. With the right mindset, he's a kid that can do serious damage in the late stages of the NCAA tournament. He's a championship level wing.
And how about him and Ponds together
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If Heron is legitimately available and there is mutual interest he should go to the top of the transfer target list for guards.
Then Dixon, Weathers erc...
There is no question he's light years above anyone available. With the right mindset, he's a kid that can do serious damage in the late stages of the NCAA tournament. He's a championship level wing.
And how about him and Ponds together
And Owens, Simon, and Clark.
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If Heron is legitimately available and there is mutual interest he should go to the top of the transfer target list for guards.
Then Dixon, Weathers erc...
There is no question he's light years above anyone available. With the right mindset, he's a kid that can do serious damage in the late stages of the NCAA tournament. He's a championship level wing.
Marillac steps up to the plate and knocks one out of the park
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Evan Daniels @EvanDaniels
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers will visit St. John's on April 14th, he says. Also working on visits to Xavier, Miami & Boise State.
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Seen Weathers quite a few time and really like him. He's a good rebounder for his size and a willing passer and defender. His shot selection needs some work but hopefully that is a combo of youth and needing to carry scoring load. He can def play and more than contribute at this level.
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Seen Weathers quite a few time and really like him. He's a good rebounder for his size and a willing passer and defender. His shot selection needs some work but hopefully that is a combo of youth and needing to carry scoring load. He can def play and more than contribute at this level.
Appreciate your insights. He does seem like a turnover machine, though. 4.56 per game, good for 3rd highest in the NCAAs, in only 28.6 minutes per game.
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https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/report-mississippi-state-basketball-signee-garrison-brooks-requests-release-loi
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https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/report-mississippi-state-basketball-signee-garrison-brooks-requests-release-loi
I just saw that and his father is an assistant there. Strange, something must be going on either with his father at MSU or between him and his father.
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Jon Rothstein
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers tells me he will visit Boise State on 4/14, Miami on 4/18, and Xavier on 4/20.
I guess he's not visiting us on 4/14 anymore
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Jon Rothstein
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers tells me he will visit Boise State on 4/14, Miami on 4/18, and Xavier on 4/20.
I guess he's not visiting us on 4/14 anymore
Read he cancelled
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Jon Rothstein
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers tells me he will visit Boise State on 4/14, Miami on 4/18, and Xavier on 4/20.
I guess he's not visiting us on 4/14 anymore
Read he cancelled
Zach Braziller
Michael Weathers, Miami of Ohio transfer, won't be visiting St. John's, per source. Doesn't seem like a fit. #sjubb
Just thinking out loud, but hopefully means a solid guard transfer (Heron) is looking better and better, but could be reaching
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Jon Rothstein
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers tells me he will visit Boise State on 4/14, Miami on 4/18, and Xavier on 4/20.
I guess he's not visiting us on 4/14 anymore
Read he cancelled
Matt stopped following him
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Jon Rothstein
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers tells me he will visit Boise State on 4/14, Miami on 4/18, and Xavier on 4/20.
I guess he's not visiting us on 4/14 anymore
Read he cancelled
Matt stopped following him
You're getting good!
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Jon Rothstein
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers tells me he will visit Boise State on 4/14, Miami on 4/18, and Xavier on 4/20.
I guess he's not visiting us on 4/14 anymore
Read he cancelled
Zach Braziller
Michael Weathers, Miami of Ohio transfer, won't be visiting St. John's, per source. Doesn't seem like a fit. #sjubb
Just thinking out loud, but hopefully means a solid guard transfer (Heron) is looking better and better, but could be reaching
...for the stars
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Jon Rothstein
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers tells me he will visit Boise State on 4/14, Miami on 4/18, and Xavier on 4/20.
I guess he's not visiting us on 4/14 anymore
Read he cancelled
Matt stopped following him
You're getting good!
I'm waiting for him to follow me...
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When is the Amar news dropping? It's been waiting a week since reputable posters had him out.
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When is the Amar news dropping? It's been waiting a week since reputable posters had him out.
Nice backhand
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According to SJU Twitter it was his birthday last week. He is probably still celebrating. I hope he stays. Can be the 12-13 man next year.
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When is the Amar news dropping? It's been waiting a week since reputable posters had him out.
Not until new transfers come in. If all fails he's still on board. Heck maybe even Ellison comes back.
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Just dropping a random name, but is that dude Freeman from Rutgers a grad transfer? He averaged 7.8 boards in the Big 10. Guy can play.
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Just dropping a random name, but is that dude Freeman from Rutgers a grad transfer? He averaged 7.8 boards in the Big 10. Guy can play.
Our former recruit for a while anyway
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Just dropping a random name, but is that dude Freeman from Rutgers a grad transfer? He averaged 7.8 boards in the Big 10. Guy can play.
Our former recruit for a while anyway
Perfect. Give me Freeman, Owens, Ahmed, Ponds and LoVett. Simon and Clark first subs.
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When is the Amar news dropping? It's been waiting a week since reputable posters had him out.
Not until new transfers come in. If all fails he's still on board. Heck maybe even Ellison comes back.
He doesn't have a landing spot at Ruptures? I recall that their fans were wetting themseleves in anticipation of signing him in 2015
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When is the Amar news dropping? It's been waiting a week since reputable posters had him out.
Not until new transfers come in. If all fails he's still on board. Heck maybe even Ellison comes back.
Thanks for the doomsday scenario David.
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6'10" and 240 out of Arizona. Even has the small drug hiccup on his resume. Perfect for us.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/04/06/carlton-bragg-transferring-kansas/
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6'10" and 240 out of Arizona. Even has the small drug hiccup on his resume. Perfect for us.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/04/06/carlton-bragg-transferring-kansas/
Arizona? Think you mean Kansas.
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Yes. All the blue bloods kind of mesh into one program for me.
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My guess, 2 big men (1 new recruit, 1 grad transfer) and 2 guards (more than likely 2 transfers-Mikey Dixon perhaps being 1 of the two).
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https://twitter.com/scekic1995/status/851092703727276032
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Paultz , what your sense of timing on some good news on the recruitment from ? Some transfers are popping already .
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Paultz , what your sense of timing on some good news on the recruitment from ? Some transfers are popping already .
Not sure
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https://twitter.com/mabde33/status/851191135242514432
Cryptic tweet...
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Hopefully something good cooking...
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If we're aggressive and we've got a chance with some solid recruits/transfers, I'll take it, even if it was Will Wade/VCU coaching philosophy first
http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/c2/9d/vcu-court-031017-ftr-snjpg_4epz0xd17z361oic46nqdhgna.jpg?t=-1174921054
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The critical need is an immediately eligible big man. One of the guys I wish would commit to SJU is Kaneron Rooks (Cal). 3* out of high school, Immediately eligible. 7'1" during the 2016-17 season, Kameron averaged 4.9 pts and 4.5 Reb. Not sure why he only averaged 17.1 minutes per game. He did miss 10 +/- games. Perhaps the presence of Ivan Rabb? Mark Donnal 6'9" and 240 lbs, also immediately eligible . Mark averaged 3.9 ppg and 2.0 rpg in 12.2 min.
Unfortunately, I think SJU is more likely to get a commitment from an immediately eligible player like Ahmed Hamdy Mohamed (VCU) or Sean Obi (Duke).
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The critical need is an immediately eligible big man. One of the guys I wish would commit to SJU is Kaneron Rooks (Cal). 3* out of high school, Immediately eligible. 7'1" during the 2016-17 season, Kameron averaged 4.9 pts and 4.5 Reb. Not sure why he only averaged 17.1 minutes per game. He did miss 10 +/- games. Perhaps the presence of Ivan Rabb? Mark Donnal 6'9" and 240 lbs, also immediately eligible . Mark averaged 3.9 ppg and 2.0 rpg in 12.2 min.
Unfortunately, I think SJU is more likely to get a commitment from an immediately eligible player like Ahmed Hamdy Mohamed (VCU) or Sean Obi (Duke).
A healthy Sean Obi is head and shoulders above the rest of the guys you listed. He averaged nearly a double-double as a frosh at Rice. I think he'd be a good complement to Owens and could play some four as well.
A major problem last year was getting abused inside by [much] stronger players. Williams was the one guy that could body up, and he transferred.
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LIU grad transfer Nura Zanna has committed to Houston, per a source. Immediately eligible for next season. Averaged 9.2 PPG and 8.2 RPG.
Have to hope we have our bigs lined up. This kid ate us up at Barclays, would've been a solid pickup imo.
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LIU grad transfer Nura Zanna has committed to Houston, per a source. Immediately eligible for next season. Averaged 9.2 PPG and 8.2 RPG.
Have to hope we have our bigs lined up. This kid ate us up at Barclays, would've been a solid pickup imo.
I thought Zanna would be a good pickup, but maybe they have a better idea? We were never linked to him as far as I know. And in fairness to his performance against us, Deleware State and ODU did it as well. At that time in the season, our front court was Swiss cheese in every game.
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LIU grad transfer Nura Zanna has committed to Houston, per a source. Immediately eligible for next season. Averaged 9.2 PPG and 8.2 RPG.
Have to hope we have our bigs lined up. This kid ate us up at Barclays, would've been a solid pickup imo.
I don't think he was the complete answer up front, but he could definitely have been a part
of it. I'll be very unhappy if we don't get a grad transfer at least as good, because you'd have to imagine he would have signed with us in a heartbeat over Houston.
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https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/report-mississippi-state-basketball-signee-garrison-brooks-requests-release-loi
I just saw that and his father is an assistant there. Strange, something must be going on either with his father at MSU or between him and his father.
Request denied. Again strange, his father is an assistant for Howland.
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/851786781594984449
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Illinois confirms that releases have been granted to ESPN 100 center Jeremiah Tilmon and four-star guard Javon Pickett.
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https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/report-mississippi-state-basketball-signee-garrison-brooks-requests-release-loi
I just saw that and his father is an assistant there. Strange, something must be going on either with his father at MSU or between him and his father.
Request denied. Again strange, his father is an assistant for Howland.
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/851786781594984449
Reversal, Brooks gets his release.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/mississippi-state/2017/04/11/garrison-brooks-release-denied-msu-ncaa/100321758/
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https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/report-mississippi-state-basketball-signee-garrison-brooks-requests-release-loi
I just saw that and his father is an assistant there. Strange, something must be going on either with his father at MSU or between him and his father.
Request denied. Again strange, his father is an assistant for Howland.
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/851786781594984449
Reversal, Brooks gets his release.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/mississippi-state/2017/04/11/garrison-brooks-release-denied-msu-ncaa/100321758/
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/852242852138688512
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It's not an epidemic
http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/04/12/stop-calling-college-basketball-transfers-an-epidemic/
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Evan Daniels @EvanDaniels
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers will visit St. John's on April 14th, he says. Also working on visits to Xavier, Miami & Boise State.
Just popped for Oklahoma St.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/853633736327532544
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Evan Daniels @EvanDaniels
Miami (Ohio) transfer Michael Weathers will visit St. John's on April 14th, he says. Also working on visits to Xavier, Miami & Boise State.
Just popped for Oklahoma St.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/853633736327532544
Another struggling program wasting ships on midmajor program players.
smh.
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Per Goodman
UConn transfer Steven Enoch told ESPN he is at Louisville today for a visit.
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Macintosh from Illinois State 12.5 points and 5.6 boards 6'7 230....sign me up
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Nebraska transfer Edwin Morrow
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Nebraska transfer Edwin Morrow
235 lbs, didn't attempt a single trey, and averaged 3.2 offensive boards per game! Be still my beating heart.
FYI: he played AAU with Marcus Lovett and he has a 7'2 wingspan. This kid will be a prize for someone.
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Nebraska transfer Edwin Morrow
235 lbs, didn't attempt a single trey, and averaged 3.2 offensive boards per game! Be still my beating heart.
FYI: he played AAU with Marcus Lovett and he has a 7'2 wingspan. This kid will be a prize for someone.
Matt is following him so there's interest. This kid seems great for us. Hopefully we can get a visit. He is sit 1 play 2?
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Nebraska transfer Edwin Morrow
235 lbs, didn't attempt a single trey, and averaged 3.2 offensive boards per game! Be still my beating heart.
FYI: he played AAU with Marcus Lovett and he has a 7'2 wingspan. This kid will be a prize for someone.
Matt is following him so there's interest. This kid seems great for us. Hopefully we can get a visit. He is sit 1 play 2?
Yeah. There is a very outside chance he can play right away if his coach is fired--which the fan base wants badly. He was the #52 recruit in 2015 by ESPN. This would be a fantastic pickup.
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Nebraska transfer Edwin Morrow
235 lbs, didn't attempt a single trey, and averaged 3.2 offensive boards per game! Be still my beating heart.
FYI: he played AAU with Marcus Lovett and he has a 7'2 wingspan. This kid will be a prize for someone.
Matt is following him so there's interest. This kid seems great for us. Hopefully we can get a visit. He is sit 1 play 2?
Yeah. There is a very outside chance he can play right away if his coach is fired--which the fan base wants badly. He was the #52 recruit in 2015 by ESPN. This would be a fantastic pickup.
It doesn't work like that anymore
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Nebraska transfer Edwin Morrow
235 lbs, didn't attempt a single trey, and averaged 3.2 offensive boards per game! Be still my beating heart.
FYI: he played AAU with Marcus Lovett and he has a 7'2 wingspan. This kid will be a prize for someone.
Matt is following him so there's interest. This kid seems great for us. Hopefully we can get a visit. He is sit 1 play 2?
Yeah. There is a very outside chance he can play right away if his coach is fired--which the fan base wants badly. He was the #52 recruit in 2015 by ESPN. This would be a fantastic pickup.
It doesn't work like that anymore
It never worked that way. Coach getting fired or not had nothing to do with getting a hardship waiver and hardship waivers don't exist anymore anyway.
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Mikyle McIntosh of Illinois St who was probably going to be pre-season MVC POY is going to declare but if he opts out will be a grad transfer. This guy is going to get serious looks.
Remember Illinois St shared regular season title with Wichita St and lost MVC final and with Wichita headed to AAC is the heavy favorite to win MVC next year.
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/mikyle-mcintosh-will-declare-nba-draft-not-sign-agent/
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Mikyle McIntosh of Illinois St who was probably going to be pre-season MVC POY is going to declare but if he opts out will be a grad transfer. This guy is going to get serious looks.
Remember Illinois St shared regular season title with Wichita St and lost MVC final and with Wichita headed to C-USA is the heavy favorite to win MVC next year.
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/mikyle-mcintosh-will-declare-nba-draft-not-sign-agent/
AAC not C-USA
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Mikyle McIntosh of Illinois St who was probably going to be pre-season MVC POY is going to declare but if he opts out will be a grad transfer. This guy is going to get serious looks.
Remember Illinois St shared regular season title with Wichita St and lost MVC final and with Wichita headed to C-USA is the heavy favorite to win MVC next year.
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/mikyle-mcintosh-will-declare-nba-draft-not-sign-agent/
AAC not C-USA
Correct, my bad.
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Mikyle McIntosh of Illinois St who was probably going to be pre-season MVC POY is going to declare but if he opts out will be a grad transfer. This guy is going to get serious looks.
Remember Illinois St shared regular season title with Wichita St and lost MVC final and with Wichita headed to AAC is the heavy favorite to win MVC next year.
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/mikyle-mcintosh-will-declare-nba-draft-not-sign-agent/
Why do you think he was going to be preseason conference player of the year? He was
third on his team in both scoring and rebounding. The kid from Mizzou St. averaged a double-double and has to be a near unanimous preseason poy pick with WSU gone.
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Mikyle McIntosh of Illinois St who was probably going to be pre-season MVC POY is going to declare but if he opts out will be a grad transfer. This guy is going to get serious looks.
Remember Illinois St shared regular season title with Wichita St and lost MVC final and with Wichita headed to AAC is the heavy favorite to win MVC next year.
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/mikyle-mcintosh-will-declare-nba-draft-not-sign-agent/
Why do you think he was going to be preseason conference player of the year? He was
third on his team in both scoring and rebounding. The kid from Mizzou St. averaged a double-double and has to be a near unanimous preseason poy pick with WSU gone.
Not me it was the estimate of 3 writers from the the MVC.
Furthermore he tore his meniscus late causing him to miss games. Ask his coach who he thinks is the best returning player.
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https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/854118063784042496
No surprise headed to VCU.
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https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/854118063784042496
No surprise headed to VCU.
Followed HC Mike Rhoades there. Hope that VCU and Dayton keep on trucking, both hired within the family this offseason. Basketball programs w rabid fan bases and their administrations get it.
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Article on Cheatham and his decision to transfer from SDSU:
http://fox5sandiego.com/2017/04/19/love-for-san-diego-state-not-enough-to-keep-cheatham-from-transferring/
Says a decision is coming "before the summer" and says he is comfortable leaving the west coast.
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Are we desperate yet?
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Never seen this Cheatham. You don't like him?
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Never seen this Cheatham. You don't like him?
Never heard of him.
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Are we desperate yet?
Heck yes!!!!
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Never seen this Cheatham. You don't like him?
Never heard of him.
The kid is a serious player. The only problems are that he will have to sit next year and he wants to play on the perimeter more--which he clearly is lot suited for at this time.
At least coming from being coached by Steve Fisher you know he can play D and rebound.
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Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.
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Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.
I would take him as well. The only issue is how many years of eligibility will he actually have left. Remember the general rule is you get 5 years to play 4. Cheatham redshirted his 1st year. Combined that with sitting out this coming year and that means after he plays in 2018-19 he will have used up his 5 years (3 at SDSU and 2 at SJU) having played only 3 years. In other words he will have to ask the NCAA for a 6th year waiver. Most 6th year waivers are granted based on injuries that prevented the player from playing. His application might be tricky since he did not redshirt his 1st year due to injury.
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
How common is that?
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
How common is that?
Not very so let's not speculate that far out especially for a guy who is not even committed yet.
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Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.
I would take him as well. The only issue is how many years of eligibility will he actually have left. Remember the general rule is you get 5 years to play 4. Cheatham redshirted his 1st year. Combined that with sitting out this coming year and that means after he plays in 2018-19 he will have used up his 5 years (3 at SDSU and 2 at SJU) having played only 3 years. In other words he will have to ask the NCAA for a 6th year waiver. Most 6th year waivers are granted based on injuries that prevented the player from playing. His application might be tricky since he did not redshirt his 1st year due to injury.
Believe he did redshirt due to injury. Had foot surgery and decided to redshirt on Jan 13 of his true frosh season.
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6 9 previous 4 star recruit. Id take him. People act as if recruits are banging at our door and we have the pick of the litter. I wouldn't count on Naz and Brown.
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.
He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.
He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.
Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.
He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.
Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.
Chris Obekpa
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.
He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.
Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.
Chris Obekpa
Yup but I was thinking more of someone who transferred to play somewhere else.
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Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.
I would take him as well. The only issue is how many years of eligibility will he actually have left. Remember the general rule is you get 5 years to play 4. Cheatham redshirted his 1st year. Combined that with sitting out this coming year and that means after he plays in 2018-19 he will have used up his 5 years (3 at SDSU and 2 at SJU) having played only 3 years. In other words he will have to ask the NCAA for a 6th year waiver. Most 6th year waivers are granted based on injuries that prevented the player from playing. His application might be tricky since he did not redshirt his 1st year due to injury.
Believe he did redshirt due to injury. Had foot surgery and decided to redshirt on Jan 13 of his true frosh season.
Stand corrected you are right sir. Should make his application for a 6th year easier.
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I hear his late great grandfather was the ageless wonder Doc Cheatham.
Doc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWcVkdvHb4c)
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.
He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.
Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.
You have to earn at least 60 credits after matriculating into St. John's to receive a diploma from them regardless of how many credits you earned elsewhere. E.g., you can't do 3 1/2 years at Hofstra and a semester at St. John's and get a diploma from St. John's. As a former transfer to SJU, I know this very well.
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Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.
It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.
He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.
Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.
You have to earn at least 60 credits after matriculating into St. John's to receive a diploma from them regardless of how many credits you earned elsewhere. E.g., you can't do 3 1/2 years at Hofstra and a semester at St. John's and get a diploma from St. John's. As a former transfer to SJU, I know this very well.
Where did you transfer in from?
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I hear his late great grandfather was the ageless wonder Doc Cheatham.
Doc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWcVkdvHb4c)
Big plus 1 for that reference.
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I hear his late great grandfather was the ageless wonder Doc Cheatham.
Doc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWcVkdvHb4c)
Big plus 1 for that reference.
Thanks. I like Doc Cheatham. I've seen him a few times.
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https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/report-mississippi-state-basketball-signee-garrison-brooks-requests-release-loi
I just saw that and his father is an assistant there. Strange, something must be going on either with his father at MSU or between him and his father.
Request denied. Again strange, his father is an assistant for Howland.
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/851786781594984449
Reversal, Brooks gets his release.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/mississippi-state/2017/04/11/garrison-brooks-release-denied-msu-ncaa/100321758/
Just popped for UNC.
https://twitter.com/GTuckerHoops/status/855618561032814593
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Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 5 minutes ago
Duquesne transfer Isiaha Mike has committed to SMU, per source
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Enoch to Louisville.
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/856204357838274560
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Peter Kiss, Quinnipiac transfer, to Rutgers
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Cheatham to Arizona St. Scratch that one off the list
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Forget Cheatham. Per Evan Daniels he has commited to Arizona State
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Yup saw that, he's from Phoenix and it sounds like playing home was a huge selling point
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Jeez
I dont think today was a very good day for Matt.
Skecic, Kiss, Mike, Wooten, Cheatem.
So far he's shooting 1/6
And if we dont get Kante is 1/7
Don't think we know of any other targets this offseason that hasn't commited to another school.
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Skecic and Kiss do not seem to have been offered so you can't count that against him.
Add in Dixon & Kante and it's not doom & gloom
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Skecic and Kiss do not seem to have been offered so you can't count that against him.
Add in Dixon & Kante and it's not doom & gloom
Yup and add to that Wooten was an Oregon lean all along and the other two never showed real interest in sju. The 2018 class is what Matt is and should be focused on now.
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Jeez
I dont think today was a very good day for Matt.
Skecic, Kiss, Mike, Wooten, Cheatem.
So far he's shooting 1/6
And if we dont get Kante is 1/7
Don't think we know of any other targets this offseason that hasn't commited to another school.
Damn, Baldi is multi-accounting now
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
Oregon Ducks
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Jeez
I dont think today was a very good day for Matt.
Skecic, Kiss, Mike, Wooten, Cheatem.
So far he's shooting 1/6
And if we dont get Kante is 1/7
Don't think we know of any other targets this offseason that hasn't commited to another school.
Damn, Baldi is multi-accounting now
Nah. Just reality starting to set in
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Jeez
I dont think today was a very good day for Matt.
Skecic, Kiss, Mike, Wooten, Cheatem.
So far he's shooting 1/6
And if we dont get Kante is 1/7
Don't think we know of any other targets this offseason that hasn't commited to another school.
Curious, what's a good percentage for landing recruits for a non Top 25 team?
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Jeez
I dont think today was a very good day for Matt.
Skecic, Kiss, Mike, Wooten, Cheatem.
So far he's shooting 1/6
And if we dont get Kante is 1/7
Don't think we know of any other targets this offseason that hasn't commited to another school.
Curious, what's a good percentage for landing recruits for a non Top 25 team?
No clue. We've never really been on the Transfer game recently before Mullin/Matt got here. Lavin got us Branch... and I think that was it.
So don't know about your question, but common sense tells me if you have 8 or 9 targets and you come away with 1 of them...thats not very good. I still have tremendous faith in our staff but I would like to go into this season not fielding the same team that finished 8th in the Big East.
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
Oregon Ducks
And did I miss Skecic ? I'd like that 7 foot frame.
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
Oregon Ducks
And did I miss Skecic ? I'd like that 7 foot frame.
Committed to USF, apparently we never offered.
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
Oregon Ducks
And did I miss Skecic ? I'd like that 7 foot frame.
I find this type of post funny. If Skecic came here this board would destroy him.
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It is called kicking tires.
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Jeez
I dont think today was a very good day for Matt.
Skecic, Kiss, Mike, Wooten, Cheatem.
So far he's shooting 1/6
And if we dont get Kante is 1/7
Don't think we know of any other targets this offseason that hasn't commited to another school.
Curious, what's a good percentage for landing recruits for a non Top 25 team?
No clue. We've never really been on the Transfer game recently before Mullin/Matt got here. Lavin got us Branch... and I think that was it.
So don't know about your question, but common sense tells me if you have 8 or 9 targets and you come away with 1 of them...thats not very good. I still have tremendous faith in our staff but I would like to go into this season not fielding the same team that finished 8th in the Big East.
Clark, Simon and by all accounts Kante. Not the same team at all. I get that we missed on a couple of guys but they were all guys we were recruiting for a few days or weeks, not huge misses. Who knows if those kids ever had interest in SJU, Matt was just covering his bases.
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
Oregon Ducks
And did I miss Skecic ? I'd like that 7 foot frame.
Committed to USF, apparently we never offered.
Wow. Can't figure that one out.
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
Oregon Ducks
And did I miss Skecic ? I'd like that 7 foot frame.
Committed to USF, apparently we never offered.
Wow. Can't figure that one out.
Its pretty easy. We didnt offer him. We were leverage for him trying to drum up interest
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Did Wooten commit somewhere? Please, not Seton Hall...
Oregon Ducks
And did I miss Skecic ? I'd like that 7 foot frame.
Committed to USF, apparently we never offered.
Wow. Can't figure that one out.
Its pretty easy. We didnt offer him. We were leverage for him trying to drum up interest
I would have been okay with it if we took him but it is very easy to figure why we didn't. He barely played in JUCO last season. He may have size but if he had more talent he would have played more and had more then one offer.
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We may have to settle for Hamdy from VCU or McIntosh from Illinois State if that's all we can get, but we have to get a graduate transfer Big.
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We may have to settle for Hamdy from VCU or McIntosh from Illinois State if that's all we can get, but we have to get a graduate transfer Big.
McIntosh entered the draft, but he didn't hire an agent, so chances are he'll pull out at some point. If he does, then hopefully we'll pounce.
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We may have to settle for Hamdy from VCU or McIntosh from Illinois State if that's all we can get, but we have to get a graduate transfer Big.
I don't think we're in the mix for either. And we wouldn't be "settling" for McIntosh, that would be a steal but wouldn't make much sense for him or us since we are already crowded at that position
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I don't understand how the staff can lose Williams and not add anyone to the front court and think that is okay. What about Kameron Rooks? His dad played in the NBA with Mitch and Chris. Our only center played 18.8 mpg when we needed him to play 40. Pretty easy sell. Zanna from LIU? 6'8 240 and pushed our bigs around last season.
A grad transfer does nothing to impede a 2018 class. We need a guy that can play center and not get abused down low.
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When I first saw Kameron rooks on teh grad transfer list I thought this was a no brainer. I do not get the lack of interest in him. Wonder if he is still available
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I don't understand how the staff can lose Williams and not add anyone to the front court and think that is okay. What about Kameron Rooks? His dad played in the NBA with Mitch and Chris. Our only center played 18.8 mpg when we needed him to play 40. Pretty easy sell. Zanna from LIU? 6'8 240 and pushed our bigs around last season.
A grad transfer does nothing to impede a 2018 class. We need a guy that can play center and not get abused down low.
I agree with you and have been asking the same questions, but we might be undervaluing the Clark/Kante/Yakwe tandem at the 4. When understanding that Mullin wants to speed it up, press, shoot early into shot clocks and play small ball, grabbing a extra traditional big might not do much. But when the extra scholarship is there, why not utilize the additional insurance on a one year rental?
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I don't understand how the staff can lose Williams and not add anyone to the front court and think that is okay. What about Kameron Rooks? His dad played in the NBA with Mitch and Chris. Our only center played 18.8 mpg when we needed him to play 40. Pretty easy sell. Zanna from LIU? 6'8 240 and pushed our bigs around last season.
A grad transfer does nothing to impede a 2018 class. We need a guy that can play center and not get abused down low.
I agree with you and have been asking the same questions, but we might be undervaluing the Clark/Kante/Yakwe tandem at the 4. When understanding that Mullin wants to speed it up, press, shoot early into shot clocks and play small ball, grabbing a extra traditional big might not do much. But when the extra scholarship is there, why not utilize the additional insurance on a one year rental?
The problem isn't the 4 , its the 5. last year couldnt get 20 minutes a game from Owens. Yakwe doesn't give me confidence at the 5. And have to be prepared for injury.
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I don't understand how the staff can lose Williams and not add anyone to the front court and think that is okay. What about Kameron Rooks? His dad played in the NBA with Mitch and Chris. Our only center played 18.8 mpg when we needed him to play 40. Pretty easy sell. Zanna from LIU? 6'8 240 and pushed our bigs around last season.
A grad transfer does nothing to impede a 2018 class. We need a guy that can play center and not get abused down low.
I agree with you and have been asking the same questions, but we might be undervaluing the Clark/Kante/Yakwe tandem at the 4. When understanding that Mullin wants to speed it up, press, shoot early into shot clocks and play small ball, grabbing a extra traditional big might not do much. But when the extra scholarship is there, why not utilize the additional insurance on a one year rental?
The problem isn't the 4 , its the 5. last year couldnt get 20 minutes a game from Owens. Yakwe doesn't give me confidence at the 5. And have to be prepared for injury.
Agreed, and the scholarship is available to use, I don't get it.
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I don't understand how the staff can lose Williams and not add anyone to the front court and think that is okay. What about Kameron Rooks? His dad played in the NBA with Mitch and Chris. Our only center played 18.8 mpg when we needed him to play 40. Pretty easy sell. Zanna from LIU? 6'8 240 and pushed our bigs around last season.
A grad transfer does nothing to impede a 2018 class. We need a guy that can play center and not get abused down low.
I agree with you and have been asking the same questions, but we might be undervaluing the Clark/Kante/Yakwe tandem at the 4. When understanding that Mullin wants to speed it up, press, shoot early into shot clocks and play small ball, grabbing a extra traditional big might not do much. But when the extra scholarship is there, why not utilize the additional insurance on a one year rental?
The problem isn't the 4 , its the 5. last year couldnt get 20 minutes a game from Owens. Yakwe doesn't give me confidence at the 5. And have to be prepared for injury.
Agreed, and the scholarship is available to use, I don't get it.
I get it.
"Hey we want you to come to St Johns"
"No."
"Okay."
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
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Is it possible one of the fourth year juniors testing the draft could be brought in?
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The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
French is the bruiser we could certainly use and he's a legit four-year player. Personally, I think he would've given us good minutes this upcoming season.
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Is it possible one of the fourth year juniors testing the draft could be brought in?
Anything is possible but this notion that people equate not landing someone with NOT trying is just nonsense.
Let me give you an example. A baseball player is hitting .280. I say, "I can't understand why that player is not hitting .350." Must be that he is not trying right??? LOL!!!
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
Very good point on French/Brown
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
Yes, I'm not saying it's not a failure of sorts, but Matt is not going to come out and say that in a Twitter Q & A
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Where is the scoring pop off the bench besides Moose next year? Simon is known for his defense. We have a opportunity within these months to improve for Year 3 and are coming away w only Kante.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Basically put, it was your typical coachspeak.
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Again majority of the posts are assuming things largely based on the fact they have not landed someone and that is not only dangerous but also leaves false impressions. Because SJU has not landed a grad transfer that means they did not prioritize one as if one point proves another. Most if not all of you have no idea what the staff was doing and thus are making false assumptions
Furthermore what many fans unknowingly do is picture what amounts to a well balanced high level team and then proceed to ask why didn't team X do anything about these obvious flaws as if it is easy to find answers to EVERY FLAW. Most teams are very imperfect and will deal with the same flaws.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Backup to Bash? He's going pro.
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Backup to Bash? He's going pro.
I highly doubt Ahmed keeps his name in the hat.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Where is the scoring pop off the bench besides Moose next year? Simon is known for his defense. We have a opportunity within these months to improve for Year 3 and are coming away w only Kante.
Ahmed should be the backup
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Backup to Bash? He's going pro.
I highly doubt Ahmed keeps his name in the hat.
Tongue and cheek. Maybe he could go pro somewhere, but certainly not here.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Where is the scoring pop off the bench besides Moose next year? Simon is known for his defense. We have a opportunity within these months to improve for Year 3 and are coming away w only Kante.
Ahmed should be the backup
On a good team, yes.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Where is the scoring pop off the bench besides Moose next year? Simon is known for his defense. We have a opportunity within these months to improve for Year 3 and are coming away w only Kante.
Ahmed should be the backup
On a good team, yes.
I agree with this also. He would be a good scorer for the second unit because he can catch fire and light it up on some nights. He will probably start especially because Owens get into foul trouble otherwise I might go Lovett, Ponds, Simon, Clark, Owens with Bash, Mussini and Yakwe off the bench.
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The way our personal is. I think we will see multiple 3 guard line ups. Also lineups w Bash at the 3 and 4. He will get plenty of time on the court. I think he will up to the task.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Where is the scoring pop off the bench besides Moose next year? Simon is known for his defense. We have a opportunity within these months to improve for Year 3 and are coming away w only Kante.
Ahmed should be the backup
I think he will backup Simon at the three and also play some four. I also expect him to be a better player than last year and will be more focused on d and the glass in a smaller role. Clark and Simon should bring out the best in him.
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Don't be surprised if Lube starts again next season. Coach likes to for some reason.
Reminds me of when Hollywood started that skinny California kid that got good once he got to San Diego St.
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Mark Donnal to Clemson per jeff Goodman. Cross him off the list
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Mark Donnal to Clemson per jeff Goodman. Cross him off the list
We he ever even on "the list"
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Mark Donnal to Clemson per jeff Goodman. Cross him off the list
We he ever even on "the list"
Is there even a "list"?
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I still think Kameron Rooks is the perfect 1 year fit for this team
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I still think Kameron Rooks is the perfect 1 year fit for this team
His father, Sean, played in the league at the same time as Chris and Mitch. Have to think the connection is there, he fills the void to a tee.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Where is the scoring pop off the bench besides Moose next year? Simon is known for his defense. We have a opportunity within these months to improve for Year 3 and are coming away w only Kante.
Ahmed should be the backup
Ahmed should be a backup if he comes back for his senior season having not improved his game. Just by hearing what his plan is for entering his name in the draft and why sheds light on where he is. He's not leaving regardless like others have. He knows he needs to work on his game, and now he'll have an objective opinion to help him focus.
I think he's gonna return ready, and I think he'll be 2nd team All BE or honorable mention. Just about all jucos need time to adjust to the D1 high major game. Now he's had it. Senior year. This us it.
I think he puts up 14.5 and pulls down 6.5 boards to go with 40% from 3. That's a great season and it's not even such dramatic jump.
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I still think Kameron Rooks is the perfect 1 year fit for this team
If we aren't going to get a stud then he is an absolute must have. Good hands...skilled...huge. He plugs a lot of holes. We can run some offense through him down low too.
He's a really bad athlete and labors up and down the floor, but we've got plenty of athleticism to make that a nonissue.
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People are acting like the lack of a grad transfer is intentional by the staff. It isn't that easy. Most of the better grad transfers this year were guards and most of the big were either not worth going after or not interested in SJU or both.
The one thing you can hit the staff with is coming off of French and going after Zach Brown. French isn't a stud but was solid enough to get minutes freshman year. In retrospect Brown was simply not worth the risk, way too many red flags that came to pass.
It may not be intentional, but it clearly isn't a priority. Matt A said himself that he feels great about the front court and he is just looking to add one more player (presumably Kante).
There is no way Zanna chooses Houston over us if we wanted him. He abused our guys when he played us and knows where he'll fit in. Who cares what kind of top end add-ons a boat has if it can't float. Our font court was the equivalent of a huge hole in a hull last year.
I believe Matt said that because he knows that's all that is coming. He's not going to say "I feel terrible about our front court as it stands now and we need to add multiple solid pieces" when he knows those multiple solid pieces aren't coming. They aren't stupid. They know what they need and now know they aren't getting anybody else.
Well than that is quite simply a failure. Our backup center is a 6'7 200 lb junior PF coming off an extremely disappointing season? Our starting center is 200 lbs and got abused all year by stronger players and can't even played 19 mpg? We had one guy that could hold his position on the low block and he transferred.
Duke is huge. We have at least two games against O'Mara/Kanter/Jones and they are all 240+. We have at least two games against Delgado and co. and Spellman/Painter/Paschall. The list goes on. We've got one kid on the roster above 215 lbs and one of the worst strength and
Conditioning programs in the country.
In addition, who is the backup SF to Bash? It seems as if we're conceding to giving the two remaining scholarships to walkons, when the voids can be filled with Peter Kiss types.
Where is the scoring pop off the bench besides Moose next year? Simon is known for his defense. We have a opportunity within these months to improve for Year 3 and are coming away w only Kante.
Ahmed should be the backup
Ahmed should be a backup if he comes back for senior season having not improved his game. Just by hearing what his plan is for entering his name in the draft and why sheds light on where he is. He's not leaving regardless like others have. He knows he needs to work on his game, and now he'll have an objective opinion to help him focus.
I think he's gonna return ready, and I think he'll be 2nd team All BE or honorable mention. Just about all jucos need time to adjust to the D1 high major game. Now he's had it. Senior year. This us it.
I think he puts up 14.5 and pulls down 6.5 boards to go with 40% from 3. That's a great season and it's not even such dramatic jump.
I think he'll be a better player but his time will be pinched by Simon and Clark. Simon's handle is much better and he can guard 3-4 positions. Ahmed will really have to raise his game especially on D and the glass to compete for time. My guess is that he'll play around 20 MPG. I don't see his shooting %s going higher unless it is as a result of better shot selection and less attempts. I don't see how he has any chance at all league unless someone gets injured.
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I still think Kameron Rooks is the perfect 1 year fit for this team
Justin Simon may agree with you.
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I still think Kameron Rooks is the perfect 1 year fit for this team
Justin Simon may agree with you.
Would seem like a good fit for the year, no harm in adding him. I trust the staff though and they know better then me if he has any interest. You think he would given the lack of a big men on the roster but he is also a west coast kid.
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I still think Kameron Rooks is the perfect 1 year fit for this team
Justin Simon may agree with you.
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Is the feeling from Rooks mutual?
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I still think Kameron Rooks is the perfect 1 year fit for this team
His father, Sean, played in the league at the same time as Chris and Mitch. Have to think the connection is there, he fills the void to a tee.
Not a stud. But for a 1 year investment, I would take him in a heartbeat. As you said he fills the void. And to say we need depth at he 5 would be an understatement.
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Is the feeling from Rooks mutual?
What does that have to do with anything?
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Is the feeling from Rooks mutual?
What does that have to do with anything?
Right, the only way we get him is with a gun to his head. ???
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Is the feeling from Rooks mutual?
What does that have to do with anything?
Right, the only way we get him is with a gun to his head. ???
Rape culture 😮
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rooks was down to Cal/Az for his college as a freshman. Rooks dad played for AZ so i am sure he knew simon in some respect from the west coast AAU being so close in age.
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Don't be surprised if Lube starts again next season
Not sure about that. I think the starting line up will be Severed Horsehead, Chapped Lips, Donatella Versace, Chair and Blastoma. Then coach can bring Backscratcher, Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer and Bungee Cord off the bench. If he wants to go small he can use Mailbox Post and Cigarette Holder at the the three and four and if he wants to go big he can use Bottled Water at the point and that leaves Syringe, Johnson Rod and Duck Billed Platypus as the second unit.
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Ahmed should be a backup if he comes back for his senior season having not improved his game. Just by hearing what his plan is for entering his name in the draft and why sheds light on where he is. He's not leaving regardless like others have. He knows he needs to work on his game, and now he'll have an objective opinion to help him focus.
I think he's gonna return ready, and I think he'll be 2nd team All BE or honorable mention. Just about all jucos need time to adjust to the D1 high major game. Now he's had it. Senior year. This us it.
I think he puts up 14.5 and pulls down 6.5 boards to go with 40% from 3. That's a great season and it's not even such dramatic jump.
Agree with most of this. And only at St John's would a player seeking advice on how to take his game to the next level be subjected to mockery. Because we are ... the worst fan base in all of sports.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/858458901162872832
Here is your potential grad transfer.
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https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/858458901162872832
Here is your potential grad transfer.
Interesting. 6-6 250 kid that took the 9th highest % of his team's shots while on the floor in all of division 1. Numbers indicate he's a good but not great rebounder, gets to the line a ton but has terrible FG numbers
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Walk on who was about to earn a scholarship. Absolutely take him this late, worth a flyer for one season with Kante and then really push for 2018 and 19 kids.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/college_sports/utsa/article/Leading-UTSA-scorer-Jeff-Beverly-will-transfer-11089744.php
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Wants to be at iowa st, as per Beverley (article is 3 days old, though):
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/04/recruiting-utsa-grad-transfer-jeff-beverly-wants-to-be-a-cyclone/
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Ahmed should be a backup if he comes back for his senior season having not improved his game. Just by hearing what his plan is for entering his name in the draft and why sheds light on where he is. He's not leaving regardless like others have. He knows he needs to work on his game, and now he'll have an objective opinion to help him focus.
I think he's gonna return ready, and I think he'll be 2nd team All BE or honorable mention. Just about all jucos need time to adjust to the D1 high major game. Now he's had it. Senior year. This us it.
I think he puts up 14.5 and pulls down 6.5 boards to go with 40% from 3. That's a great season and it's not even such dramatic jump.
Agree with most of this. And only at St John's would a player seeking advice on how to take his game to the next level be subjected to mockery. Because we are ... the worst fan base in all of sports.
What don't you agree with?
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Was hoping for the 7 foot Cal. Kid, Rooks.
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Walk on who was about to earn a scholarship. Absolutely take him this late, worth a flyer for one season with Kante and then really push for 2018 and 19 kids.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/college_sports/utsa/article/Leading-UTSA-scorer-Jeff-Beverly-will-transfer-11089744.php
If this is all she wrote regarding our grad transfer big, so be it. But, I was hoping for someone better. That said, he won't get pushed around.
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Don't be surprised if Lube starts again next season
Not sure about that. I think the starting line up will be Severed Horsehead, Chapped Lips, Donatella Versace, Chair and Blastoma. Then coach can bring Backscratcher, Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer and Bungee Cord off the bench. If he wants to go small he can use Mailbox Post and Cigarette Holder at the the three and four and if he wants to go big he can use Bottled Water at the point and that leaves Syringe, Johnson Rod and Duck Billed Platypus as the second unit.
No way. Versace's going to red shirt; Syringe will transfer; and Chair will be academically ineligible.
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Iowa state has 3 available scholys. Beverly said he wants to go there, what would ISU have to loose using 1 on Beverly for a year.
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Sounds like St John's is out on Brooklyn forward Isaac Kante, who announces Tuesday. #sjubb
-Brazziller
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Not happy with this. Seems we hung our hat on Kante and added nothing thus far in off-season. Now lots of guys off the board. I think more importantly we need to add another recruiter/ assistant coach to the team. We are handicapping ourselves working without Slice, and Richmond is not a replacement for a recruiter like that.
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Sounds like St John's is out on Brooklyn forward Isaac Kante, who announces Tuesday. #sjubb
-Brazziller
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WHAT. Who sa6ys so . Paultz you want to get in on this .
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Sounds like St John's is out on Brooklyn forward Isaac Kante, who announces Tuesday. #sjubb
-Brazziller
WHAT. Who sa6ys so . Paultz you want to get in on this .
No offense to Paultz, but what can he say or do?
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Sounds like St John's is out on Brooklyn forward Isaac Kante, who announces Tuesday. #sjubb
-Brazziller
WHAT. Who sa6ys so . Paultz you want to get in on this .
No offense to Paultz, but what can he say or do?
Several people told me not to worry because he hadn't cancelled his other trips. I said it was not a good thing and that if he was so much a lock he would've committed.
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Sounds like St John's is out on Brooklyn forward Isaac Kante, who announces Tuesday. #sjubb
-Brazziller
WHAT. Who sa6ys so . Paultz you want to get in on this .
No offense to Paultz, but what can he say or do?
Several people told me not to worry because he hadn't cancelled his other trips. I said it was not a good thing and that if he was so much a lock he would've committed.
Okay. I gotcha! Nevertheless, it's still not much he can say or do, outside of saying things change or he was wrong.
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Not his fault. He has a really, really good source who is almost always too optimistic.
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Sounds like St John's is out on Brooklyn forward Isaac Kante, who announces Tuesday. #sjubb
-Brazziller
WHAT. Who sa6ys so . Paultz you want to get in on this .
No offense to Paultz, but what can he say or do?
Nothing on a good day Dink. :)
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This year is so critical for the the success of the program. Win and good players wil want to come here. Lose this year and it's going to be tough getting top players.
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This year is so critical for the the success of the program. Win and good players wil want to come here. Lose this year and it's going to be tough getting top players.
I'll take the latter for $200, Alex. At this rate, won't be surprised if next year's win total is only a few more than this past one.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
The staff is obviously aware we need a big but this late in the game it might be tough to get one of any quality who can step in and be effective next year. We will see soon if we add any bigs of significance.
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What exactly is Amar's deal
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
We needed a big man and they were everywhere in the grad transfer game. We have one guy over 215 lbs. Xavier and Nova always have like 7.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
This is true. He was excited when Lenny Cooke and Darius Miles opted out, because it freed up a couple of scholarships.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
This is true. He was excited when Lenny Cooke and Darius Miles opted out, because it freed up a couple of scholarships.
Forget Cooke and miles... I'd take an Aaron Spears for one season. Just one big man.. too much to ask?
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Saw this grad transfer status list (as of 4/26)
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/4/18/15293782/college-basketball-transfers-2017-18-the-best-grad-players-available
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
This is true. He was excited when Lenny Cooke and Darius Miles opted out, because it freed up a couple of scholarships.
Forget Cooke and miles... I'd take an Aaron Spears for one season. Just one big man.. too much to ask?
That depends on what you're asking for. There's not a basketball team in the history of basketball teams that was an Aaron Spears away from contending for anything.
This is how the minutes will be distributed next year
Ponds - 30 minutes
Lovett - 30 minutes
Simon - 25 minutes
Ahmed - 25 minutes
Clark - 25 minutes
Yawke - 20 minutes
Owens - 20 minutes
= 175 minutes
If Missini plays 15 that'd leave 10 minutes for Aaron Spears II.
If Simon and Clark don't stink and Yakwe and Owens take a step forward the team will be pretty good. If that doesn't happen the team will not be pretty good and no graduate transfer from LIU or Quinnipiac or wherever would make any difference. A big body would have been nice and personally I'd have been happy with the JUCO stiff and he probably stinks. But success next year is going to depend on the seven guys up there ^^^^ playing well and if they don't know one short of Walter Berry would make any difference.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
This is true. He was excited when Lenny Cooke and Darius Miles opted out, because it freed up a couple of scholarships.
Forget Cooke and miles... I'd take an Aaron Spears for one season. Just one big man.. too much to ask?
That depends on what you're asking for. There's not a basketball team in the history of basketball teams that was an Aaron Spears away from contending for anything.
This is how the minutes will be distributed next year
Ponds - 30 minutes
Lovett - 30 minutes
Simon - 25 minutes
Ahmed - 25 minutes
Clark - 25 minutes
Yawke - 20 minutes
Owens - 20 minutes
= 175 minutes
If Missini plays 15 that'd leave 10 minutes for Aaron Spears II.
If Simon and Clark don't stink and Yakwe and Owens take a step forward the team will be pretty good. If that doesn't happen the team will not be pretty good and no graduate transfer from LIU or Quinnipiac or wherever would make any difference. A big body would have been nice and personally I'd have been happy with the JUCO stiff and he probably stinks. But success next year is going to depend on the seven guys up there ^^^^ playing well and if they don't know one short of Walter Berry would make any difference.
If Owens can only stay on the court for 20 mpg, we are screwed unless the staff goes to a zone.
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We have a big that we're not discussing.
It's going to be Da Ali B show in 17/18. The senior stretch four/five everybody loves to hate
will have a large role on next year's model.
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Are we sure he's not waiting for grades to be sure he has grad status and then planning a move?
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We have a big that we're not discussing.
It's going to be Da Ali B show in 17/18. The senior stretch four/five everybody loves to hate
will have a large role on next year's model.
Amar might be the starting center
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
This is true. He was excited when Lenny Cooke and Darius Miles opted out, because it freed up a couple of scholarships.
Forget Cooke and miles... I'd take an Aaron Spears for one season. Just one big man.. too much to ask?
That depends on what you're asking for. There's not a basketball team in the history of basketball teams that was an Aaron Spears away from contending for anything.
This is how the minutes will be distributed next year
Ponds - 30 minutes
Lovett - 30 minutes
Simon - 25 minutes
Ahmed - 25 minutes
Clark - 25 minutes
Yawke - 20 minutes
Owens - 20 minutes
= 175 minutes
If Missini plays 15 that'd leave 10 minutes for Aaron Spears II.
If Simon and Clark don't stink and Yakwe and Owens take a step forward the team will be pretty good. If that doesn't happen the team will not be pretty good and no graduate transfer from LIU or Quinnipiac or wherever would make any difference. A big body would have been nice and personally I'd have been happy with the JUCO stiff and he probably stinks. But success next year is going to depend on the seven guys up there ^^^^ playing well and if they don't know one short of Walter Berry would make any difference.
If Owens can only stay on the court for 20 mpg, we are screwed unless the staff goes to a zone.
Gotta figure w more weight and exp, he should be able to give us more time on the court.
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We have a big that we're not discussing.
It's going to be Da Ali B show in 17/18. The senior stretch four/five everybody loves to hate
will have a large role on next year's model.
Amar might be the starting center
Now you are getting a little out of control. Remember Owens?
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We have a big that we're not discussing.
It's going to be Da Ali B show in 17/18. The senior stretch four/five everybody loves to hate
will have a large role on next year's model.
Amar might be the starting center
Now you are getting a little out of control. Remember Owens?
Ya but since our guards play no defense, he can't start. At this point, Amar might be a better option than Yakwe
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
This is true. He was excited when Lenny Cooke and Darius Miles opted out, because it freed up a couple of scholarships.
Forget Cooke and miles... I'd take an Aaron Spears for one season. Just one big man.. too much to ask?
I don't know about Aaron Spears, but I see where you're coming from. Hard to believe the staff could not find one serviceable player who is 6'8''+ and could contribute some minutes in the paint given the obvious need. You see them on most teams we play. If it's a 1 year transfer, I think a big body, 5 fouls and a couple rebounds for 10-15 min a game would make a difference.
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Surprised by the negativity on this board. Kante is at best a 3 star; he is not going to change the arc of this program. Would still like to add him if he wants to be here, but if not we will move forward with someone else.
This team, as presently constituted, is at least 5 wins better than last year's team. Freudenberg gave us nothing, Ellison made most of us crazy for all but a few games of his time here, and Williams surprised us because he made it onto the court when we considered him a medical write off. Simon and Clark will more than make up for the loss of Ellison and Williams -- they are the primary reasons why those two decided to seek opportunities elsewhere, and our freshmen backcourt will be sophomores and among the best in the Big East. Owens and Yakwe will both be a year older and improved. In addition, people will still be added for next season, including an eligible big or two to step in immediately. This roster is not finished yet. Our staff sees everything that we see and is more than aware of what it will take to win next year in the Big East.
As constituted, we are short two PF's and our frontcourt was rough last year. We lost interior players, and haven't replaced any. It's real poor imo that we can't land anybody. We desperately need PF/c's of some type to have this team do anything next year or we will be killed once again on the interior. I can't figure out how we couldn't grab a serviceable big body or two. I'm not even talking studs here. At this point, without having replaced him, losing Williams is a huge loss.
When even MCNPA is being negative you really know we's in trouble.
This is true. He was excited when Lenny Cooke and Darius Miles opted out, because it freed up a couple of scholarships.
Forget Cooke and miles... I'd take an Aaron Spears for one season. Just one big man.. too much to ask?
That depends on what you're asking for. There's not a basketball team in the history of basketball teams that was an Aaron Spears away from contending for anything.
This is how the minutes will be distributed next year
Ponds - 30 minutes
Lovett - 30 minutes
Simon - 25 minutes
Ahmed - 25 minutes
Clark - 25 minutes
Yawke - 20 minutes
Owens - 20 minutes
= 175 minutes
If Missini plays 15 that'd leave 10 minutes for Aaron Spears II.
If Simon and Clark don't stink and Yakwe and Owens take a step forward the team will be pretty good. If that doesn't happen the team will not be pretty good and no graduate transfer from LIU or Quinnipiac or wherever would make any difference. A big body would have been nice and personally I'd have been happy with the JUCO stiff and he probably stinks. But success next year is going to depend on the seven guys up there ^^^^ playing well and if they don't know one short of Walter Berry would make any difference.
If Owens can only stay on the court for 20 mpg, we are screwed unless the staff goes to a zone.
The point is that there aren't that many minutes available for Aaron Spears the second. They'd have to bring someone in who's going to be better than the junior version of Yakwe. Which a grad transfer might be but a freshman is unlikely to be.
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Per Jeff Goodman
Kansas has landed William & Mary grad transfer Jack Whitman, source told ESPN. Averaged 10 and 5 this past season.
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Per Jeff Goodman
Kansas has landed William & Mary grad transfer Jack Whitman, source told ESPN. Averaged 10 and 5 this past season.
Congratulations Norm.
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Per Jeff Goodman
Kansas has landed William & Mary grad transfer Jack Whitman, source told ESPN. Averaged 10 and 5 this past season.
Congratulations Norm.
Probably did it just to make sure we didn't get him.
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Majority of the 5th year transfers look for a chance to play in the tournament. I guess they don't see that happening at St. Johns
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Majority of the 5th year transfers look for a chance to play in the tournament. I guess they don't see that happening at St. Johns
Ya think?
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Majority of the 5th year transfers look for a chance to play in the tournament. I guess they don't see that happening at St. Johns
Ya think?
Lol. Just have to point it out to some of the delusional
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Kicking the tires on Rooks.
https://twitter.com/FullTimeHoops1/status/859449926714970113
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Majority of the 5th year transfers look for a chance to play in the tournament. I guess they don't see that happening at St. Johns
Ya think?
Lol. Just have to point it out to some of the delusional
Lol. Everybody gets your opinion at this point. It's repeated on every thread.
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Kicking the tires on Rooks.
https://twitter.com/FullTimeHoops1/status/859449926714970113
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We'd better dam well be doing more then kicking the tires
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Kicking the tires on Rooks.
https://twitter.com/FullTimeHoops1/status/859449926714970113
Until we're kicked to the curb with that list.
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Looks like the Jeff Beverly flirtation is over: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/randy-peterson/2017/05/02/peterson-cyclones-basketball-getting-player-tight-end-like-frame/308916001/
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Kicking the tires on Rooks.
https://twitter.com/FullTimeHoops1/status/859449926714970113
Until we're kicked to the curb with that list.
Yup. We're clamoring for one 6'8+ bull and meanwhile Gonzaga will just keep adding 7 footers to their roster.
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Kicking the tires on Rooks.
https://twitter.com/FullTimeHoops1/status/859449926714970113
Until we're kicked to the curb with that list.
Yup. We're clamoring for one 6'8+ bull and meanwhile Gonzaga will just keep adding 7 footers to their roster.
Maybe we can get a transfer golfer or fencer that played basketball in middle school. Preferably a tall one.
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We may have to settle for Hamdy from VCU or McIntosh from Illinois State if that's all we can get, but we have to get a graduate transfer Big.
I don't think we're in the mix for either. And we wouldn't be "settling" for McIntosh, that would be a steal but wouldn't make much sense for him or us since we are already crowded at that position
How bout Zavier Peart? Is that a "settle"?
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We may have to settle for Hamdy from VCU or McIntosh from Illinois State if that's all we can get, but we have to get a graduate transfer Big.
I don't think we're in the mix for either. And we wouldn't be "settling" for McIntosh, that would be a steal but wouldn't make much sense for him or us since we are already crowded at that position
How bout Zavier Peart? Is that a "settle"?
No, that's waiving the white flag
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Kicking the tires on Rooks.
https://twitter.com/FullTimeHoops1/status/859449926714970113
Until we're kicked to the curb with that list.
Yup. We're clamoring for one 6'8+ bull and meanwhile Gonzaga will just keep adding 7 footers to their roster.
Maybe we can get a transfer golfer or fencer that played basketball in middle school. Preferably a tall one.
Right ;D
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We may have to settle for Hamdy from VCU or McIntosh from Illinois State if that's all we can get, but we have to get a graduate transfer Big.
I don't think we're in the mix for either. And we wouldn't be "settling" for McIntosh, that would be a steal but wouldn't make much sense for him or us since we are already crowded at that position
How bout Zavier Peart? Is that a "settle"?
There is no reason not to add him if we can't get a quality big like Rooks. We need at least one guy that can come in and stop guys like Delgado and O'Mara from backing down and bullying our post defenders. We only have nine players next year.
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Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN 1h
Iowa state has landed UTSA grad transfer Jeff Beverly, source told ESPN.
Welp. Didn't get past the ISU visit.
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Knox to Kentucky. Confirmed
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Knox to Kentucky. Confirmed
That's one transfer I wish we got involved with.
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the fact he popped for kentucky means it wouldnt have mattered anyway.
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Knox to Kentucky. Confirmed
That's one transfer I wish we got involved with.
Not a transfer. HSer. Never had a chance.
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Knox to Kentucky. Confirmed
That's one transfer I wish we got involved with.
Not a transfer. HSer. Never had a chance.
Yup why it made no sense posting in the Transfer Wishlist thread.
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Get your hopes up as you choose to
Matt Abdelmassih
Verified account @mabde33 42m42 minutes ago
BIG things ahead...guys locked & loaded...a lil break coming and back at it in a few weeks. Nothing will hold them back #SJUBB
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Get your hopes up as you choose to
Matt Abdelmassih
Verified account @mabde33 42m42 minutes ago
BIG things ahead...guys locked & loaded...a lil break coming and back at it in a few weeks. Nothing will hold them back #SJUBB
Seems like he's referring to current squad of players but who knows SN
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Get your hopes up as you choose to
Matt Abdelmassih
Verified account @mabde33 42m42 minutes ago
BIG things ahead...guys locked & loaded...a lil break coming and back at it in a few weeks. Nothing will hold them back #SJUBB
Seems like he's referring to current squad of players but who knows SN
Agree. It sounds like he's talking about the current group of players, and it's almost time for him to get back out on the circuit to recruit. Never know.
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Get your hopes up as you choose to
Matt Abdelmassih
Verified account @mabde33 42m42 minutes ago
BIG things ahead...guys locked & loaded...a lil break coming and back at it in a few weeks. Nothing will hold them back #SJUBB
We may be locked but as far as loaded we still have an empty chamber or two.
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What worries me is we have 8 eligible players for next season if my math is right. 1 or 2 key injuries and the season could be sunk. NO reason in my mind not to add a grad transfer or two to fill out the roster
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What worries me is we have 8 eligible players for next season if my math is right. 1 or 2 key injuries and the season could be sunk. NO reason in my mind not to add a grad transfer or two to fill out the roster
Right. The staff has work to do. No STJ fan with a brain is going to accept that the staff's attention will be on the 2018 class. They need to get their shit together now.
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Get your hopes up as you choose to
Matt Abdelmassih
Verified account @mabde33 42m42 minutes ago
BIG things ahead...guys locked & loaded...a lil break coming and back at it in a few weeks. Nothing will hold them back #SJUBB
How far ahead ?
How big ?
A little break from what ? Certainly not signing someone since we haven't signed anyone.
Questians, questians. Seems like everyone else gets answers. How about us ?
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According to verbal commits there are 64 immediately eligble transfer still available. I can not believe 1 of them is not able to he lp us for one year
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According to verbal commits there are 64 immediately eligble transfer still available. I can not believe 1 of them is not able to he lp us for one year
Agreed. Even if it's not a big and just a forward if we don't land Sid. You don't wana be thin because injuries will happen and we don't wana be done to like 6 guys live we were with Lavin that one year. It's possible to do like SMU did but more the exception then the rule
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Roselle NIx just announced transfer from Pitt. Immediately eligible big body
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Roselle NIx just announced transfer from Pitt. Immediately eligible big body
He's better than nothing.
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Forget injuries. The current roster today is not equipped with enough bigs to be a force in the BE next year. We need more size regardless.
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At worst he is 5 fouls and can spell Tariq. Also his size he can defend against bigger teams
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Forget injuries. The current roster today is not equipped with enough bigs to be a force in the BE next year. We need more size regardless.
Villanova plays one guy over 6'8 and they won a national championship. We could use more size yea obviously but improvement of our own players and more depth I think is key. Would be nice to get a grad big but don't see it happening. We are obviously lacking size and I'm not disputing that.
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Forget injuries. The current roster today is not equipped with enough bigs to be a force in the BE next year. We need more size regardless.
Villanova plays one guy over 6'8 and they won a national championship. We could use more size yea obviously but improvement of our own players and more depth I think is key. Would be nice to get a grad big but don't see it happening. We are obviously lacking size and I'm not disputing that.
We are in agreement here for the most part. 'Nova's a different animal. Their coaching and talent level is way above ours. I think it will take more than just our current roster improving to make that big jump next year to a tourney bubble team but we shall see.
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Villanova had Ochefu in the middle the year they won. By senior year he was a very good - excellent college big.
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Villanova had Ochefu in the middle the year they won. By senior year he was a very good - excellent college big.
Im aware of all that. I'm not saying we are winning the NCAA tournament. Who did nova have last year upfront? Reynolds? He was decent but nothing special. Not all about height is my point.
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Villanova had Ochefu in the middle the year they won. By senior year he was a very good - excellent college big.
Im aware of all that. I'm not saying we are winning the NCAA tournament. Who did nova have last year upfront? Reynolds? He was decent but nothing special. Not all about height is my point.
That's why Nova lost early last season and why I predicted they would. BTW, Nova also had a 6'9 230 Reynolds alongside Uchefo when they won and Kris Jenkins was 6'7 230.
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Villanova had Ochefu in the middle the year they won. By senior year he was a very good - excellent college big.
Im aware of all that. I'm not saying we are winning the NCAA tournament. Who did nova have last year upfront? Reynolds? He was decent but nothing special. Not all about height is my point.
That's why Nova lost early last season and why I predicted they would. BTW, Nova also had a 6'9 230 Reynolds alongside Uchefo when they won and Kris Jenkins was 6'7 230.
And their guards are always tough with good size. As good as our two guards are they are neither tough or have good size.
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Forget injuries. The current roster today is not equipped with enough bigs to be a force in the BE next year. We need more size regardless.
Villanova plays one guy over 6'8 and they won a national championship. We could use more size yea obviously but improvement of our own players and more depth I think is key. Would be nice to get a grad big but don't see it happening. We are obviously lacking size and I'm not disputing that.
How was lunch?
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Forget injuries. The current roster today is not equipped with enough bigs to be a force in the BE next year. We need more size regardless.
Villanova plays one guy over 6'8 and they won a national championship. We could use more size yea obviously but improvement of our own players and more depth I think is key. Would be nice to get a grad big but don't see it happening. We are obviously lacking size and I'm not disputing that.
We really need to stop comparing ourselves to Villanova. we have absolutely no similarities to them as a program right now. We have had horrible luck recruiting as of late and really need to develop our players. Hoping for the best!
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Nakye Sanders to Towson.
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/duquesne-transfer-nakye-sanders-committed-towson/
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Think he would have been a nice pick up if he was an immediate eligible transfer
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JaQuan Lyle at Ohio State arrested and quits the team apparently.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2017/05/82271/ohio-state-point-guard-jaquan-lyle-cited-for-three-charges-saturday-morning?amp
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This kid evidently is willing to sit out consecutive years...
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/05/ray-kasongo-has-requested-and-been-granted-release-to-transfer-from-isu/
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This kid evidently is willing to sit out consecutive years...
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/05/ray-kasongo-has-requested-and-been-granted-release-to-transfer-from-isu/
This kid has serious problems. Anyone that touches him is insane.
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This kid evidently is willing to sit out consecutive years...
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/05/ray-kasongo-has-requested-and-been-granted-release-to-transfer-from-isu/
The kid is probably 29 at this point.
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This kid evidently is willing to sit out consecutive years...
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/05/ray-kasongo-has-requested-and-been-granted-release-to-transfer-from-isu/
The kid is probably 29 at this point.
On a more sober note evidently word is his father is very ill and he is looking to move closer to home.
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This kid evidently is willing to sit out consecutive years...
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/05/ray-kasongo-has-requested-and-been-granted-release-to-transfer-from-isu/
The kid is probably 29 at this point.
On a more sober note evidently word is his father is very ill and he is looking to move closer to home.
Where is home?
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This kid evidently is willing to sit out consecutive years...
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/05/ray-kasongo-has-requested-and-been-granted-release-to-transfer-from-isu/
The kid is probably 29 at this point.
On a more sober note evidently word is his father is very ill and he is looking to move closer to home.
Where is home?
Interesting, I guess Toronto but not sure if his father still lives there. Assuming his family still lives there and assuming he still wants to play American ball where would he transfer to be "closer to home?" Niagara? Buffalo?
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@AdamZagoria 2h BC commit Deontae Hawkins wants to visit a few more schools but BC is still at the top of his list, source says
If this kid does not re-commit to BC someone is going to get a nice late get for a year.
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@AdamZagoria 2h BC commit Deontae Hawkins wants to visit a few more schools but BC is still at the top of his list, source says
If this kid does not re-commit to BC someone is going to get a nice late get for a year.
It's too bad that our staff doesn't think they need more than 10 players.
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@AdamZagoria 2h BC commit Deontae Hawkins wants to visit a few more schools but BC is still at the top of his list, source says
If this kid does not re-commit to BC someone is going to get a nice late get for a year.
Why not us? Still a big away from having a complete well rounded roster.
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@AdamZagoria 2h BC commit Deontae Hawkins wants to visit a few more schools but BC is still at the top of his list, source says
If this kid does not re-commit to BC someone is going to get a nice late get for a year.
Why not us? Still a big away from having a complete well rounded roster.
We are not a desirable place for grad students or we are not interested in learning from the past. Pick one.
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I figured I'd post this here since the "transfer thread" has been locked for some reason.
Jeff GoodmanVerified account
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Western Kentucky freshman Mitchell Robinson has left campus, source told ESPN. Will be interesting to see if he is persuaded to return.
Jeff GoodmanVerified account
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The Mitchell Robinson situation is fluid, but source told ESPN he has serious questions about playing at Western Kentucky.
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assuming, he was registered for summer school, might not be immediately eligible if he'd want to play in college elsewhere
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assuming, he was registered for summer school, might not be immediately eligible if he'd want to play in college elsewhere
That is what I was thinking, as well.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/five-star-freshman-mitchell-robinson-bolts-western-kentucky-two-weeks-after-enrolling/
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assuming, he was registered for summer school, might not be immediately eligible if he'd want to play in college elsewhere
That is what I was thinking, as well.
That is exactly right, he enrolled officially. 1 year sit rule applies.
My guess is he goes overseas for a year and comes back for the draft or transfers to UK and tries to fight for immediate eligibility.
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
Likely didn't go there because he feel in love with the school or the head coach.....
from the article
"His godfather, Shammond Williams, was on WKU coach Rick Stansbury's staff when he committed in July 2016. But Williams left Stansbury's staff last month, which immediately brought into question whether Robinson would follow through on his commitment"
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
I'd have thought you'd applaud his decision to not live in Kentucky, which is an incestuous backwater. Maybe you should meet him for cocktails in Scarsdale and convince him not to be a vagina, in Queens. Oh wait, he can't drink. It's all so confusing. Thank goodness I'm not a teenager.
"Longitudinal neuroimaging studies demonstrate that the adolescent brain continues to mature well into the 20s ... The frontal lobes, home to key components of the neural circuitry underlying “executive functions” such as planning, working memory, and impulse control, are among the last areas of the brain to mature; they may not be fully developed until halfway through the third decade of life"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/
Wait what? I call BS. This kid is fully grown. Look how tall he is. No one should ever change their mind at 18, especially a seven foot tall five star athlete who has not been coddled every second of his life since second grade. What a homo sapiens.
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
Message boards are a funny place --- sometimes you have pussies talking about vaginas!!!
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
I'd have thought you'd applaud his decision to not live in Kentucky, which is an incestuous backwater. Maybe you should meet him for cocktails in Scarsdale and convince him not to be a vagina, in Queens. Oh wait, he can't drink. It's all so confusing. Thank goodness I'm not a teenager.
"Longitudinal neuroimaging studies demonstrate that the adolescent brain continues to mature well into the 20s ... The frontal lobes, home to key components of the neural circuitry underlying “executive functions” such as planning, working memory, and impulse control, are among the last areas of the brain to mature; they may not be fully developed until halfway through the third decade of life"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/
Wait what? I call BS. This kid is fully grown. Look how tall he is. No one should ever change their mind at 18, especially a seven foot tall five star athlete who has not been coddled every second of his life since second grade. What a homo sapiens.
Just more of your nonsense as per usual.
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
Message boards are a funny place --- sometimes you have pussies talking about vaginas!!!
Pete get back to work. The boss will see.
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
Message boards are a funny place --- sometimes you have pussies talking about vaginas!!!
Pete get back to work. The boss will see.
The boss is very understanding, lets me put the mop down for a few minutes so I can point out what a loser you are.
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He's just an 18 year old. So what if every other 18 year old has to be an adult? This 18 year old is clearly a child. He belongs in another thread. Do we have one for vaginas?
Message boards are a funny place --- sometimes you have pussies talking about vaginas!!!
Pete get back to work. The boss will see.
The boss is very understanding, lets me put the mop down for a few minutes so I can point out what a loser you are.
Enjoy your day off at Rockaway Beach.
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I'm suspecting he'll still need a waiver, but I hope our staff put out feelers.
Jeff BorzelloVerified account
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Western Kentucky freshman Mitchell Robinson has been granted his release to transfer. Top-10 incoming prospect.
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I'm suspecting he'll still need a waiver, but I hope our staff put out feelers.
Jeff BorzelloVerified account
@jeffborzello
Western Kentucky freshman Mitchell Robinson has been granted his release to transfer. Top-10 incoming prospect.
If he gets a waiver then he will probably end up at LSU or Kentucky. Otherwise would need to go overseas if he doesn't want to sit out a year.
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Wouldn't be surprised to see Ben Howland and/or Bruce Pearl get involved as well.
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Dwayne Morgan leaves UNLV. Team Melo, Tariq Owens connection may be something to keep your eye on.
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To note, comes with baggage, arrested after incident with Vegas cab driver no less than 4 months ago that is unresolved in court. He was excused from the UNLV program last week, but they were honoring his academic scholarship:
http://www.lvsportsnetwork.com/2017/05/10/unlv-forward-dwayne-morgan-suspended-indefinitely/
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/aug/29/dwayne-morgan-off-unlv-basketball-team/
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Dwayne Morgan leaves UNLV. Team Melo, Tariq Owens connection may be something to keep your eye on.
Hasn't really had good offensive numbers but a big body is a big body
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Visiting end of the month according to Rothstein
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He's had double-doubles against teams which is a good sign, and we need depth with loss of Wilson. An upperclassmen transfer would help a lot this season and next.
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To note, comes with baggage, arrested after incident with Vegas cab driver no less than 4 months ago that is unresolved in court. He was excused from the UNLV program last week, but they were honoring his academic scholarship:
http://www.lvsportsnetwork.com/2017/05/10/unlv-forward-dwayne-morgan-suspended-indefinitely/
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/aug/29/dwayne-morgan-off-unlv-basketball-team/
Luckily there are no cab drivers in NYC. Baggage aside he would seem to be the perfect replacement for SW as he would be eligible in December, have a one and a half years of eligibility giving us time to recruit another replacement for SW.
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Gotta take what we can get.