6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: JohnnyJungle on March 27, 2015, 06:08:48 PM
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
Whoa....
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
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The program and fanbase have been accused of being stuck in the 80s. This move would confirm it.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
On the sidelines or on the floor?
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Dave, talented with players or coaching staff or both....could you explain a little ...thanks
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Good. That sounds promising. Stauskas and cousins coming with mullin?
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Mullin + Slice , Cal to NBA = Brisce ,Diallo & Sampon to #sjubb is my guess .
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Please elaborate.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Good. That sounds promising. Stauskas and cousins coming with mullin?
No, gonna be Run TMC all over again. Spike Lee's going to be slumming at Carnesecca Arena ;D
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Guys if Mullin comes here, we have to think he is smart enough to play the game and do what he has to do to win. He has instant credibility in the tri-state area, especially with the NY High School community. And he also has credibility nationally, because everyone knows who he is. His connections and time in the NBA is a major plus to sell kids. And he will bring in at least one, if not more, really good recruiter, because he is smart enough to do that. Chris Mullin loves NY and loves this school too much to not give 1000000%. Will there be a learning curve? Of course! Is there a risk as between him and say Danny Hurley (who I also think deserves serious consideration), of course! But Chris is not taking this job to go about it half-arsed.
I have no inside information whatsoever on this. But based on what I've read about Mullin, and knowing how fond he is of SJU and New York City, logic dictates that he would only accept this job if he was supremely confident that he would succeed, and that he would fight like hell and do everything possible to ensure that happens.
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Mullin + Slice , Cal to NBA = Brisce ,Diallo & Sampon to #sjubb is my guess .
I'm clinging to this as well. Briscoe is flat-out program changer. He's a popular kid too...maybe he made a friend to bring with him and Slice.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Marillac enjoys himself a good Dave-bashing (in fun, of course, he's good guy off boards) as much as anyone, but a lot of new info has come out in the last few hours. I suspect this will be the case the next few weeks as well. Dave and many others will be doing plenty of 180's and 360's I'm sure. Totally understandable IMHO.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Marillac enjoys himself a good Dave-bashing (in fun, of course, he's good guy off boards) as much as anyone, but a lot of new info has come out in the last few hours. I suspect this will be the case the next few weeks as well. Dave and many others will be doing plenty of 180's and 360's I'm sure. Totally understandable IMHO.
Im not really bashing him, just pointing it out
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Mullin + Slice , Cal to NBA = Brisce ,Diallo & Sampon to #sjubb is my guess .
I'm clinging to this as well. Briscoe is flat-out program changer. He's a popular kid too...maybe he made a friend to bring with him and Slice.
I knew he shouldn't have signed the NLI. Hopefully, Cal really does bolt this time after going 40-0.
We all should be pulling for UK, and have some luck roll back the NYC way.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/25/report-john-calipari-desperately-wants-to-coach-in-the-nba-again/ (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/25/report-john-calipari-desperately-wants-to-coach-in-the-nba-again/)
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/john-calipari-nba-kentucky-sweet-16 (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/john-calipari-nba-kentucky-sweet-16)
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
are you surprised? so many vague posts that can mean almost anything
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I'm doing an about face too, to some extent, because I'm hearing that Mullin is likely to take the job if offered. I was dreading a Bobby Hurley or Massielo type of hire. I am skeptical, but would be at least a bit hopeful, if it was Danny Hurley---who has actually won on a consistent basis---instead of his brother, who hasn't proven anything yet.
Btw, if Mullin comes, Terrence might be on the bench with him.
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I'm doing an about face too, to some extent, because I'm hearing that Mullin is likely to take the job if offered. I was dreading a Bobby Hurley or Massielo type of hire. I am skeptical, but would be at least a bit hopeful, if it was Danny Hurley---who has actually won on a consistent basis---instead of his brother, who hasn't proven anything yet.
Btw, if Mullin comes, Terrence might be on the bench with him.
And within two years unless he has the team in the final four he'll start receiving advice as how to win from the posters
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Would they ever spend the money to bring in Jim Calhoun and what would he cost? He wants back in, multiple national championships, great national recruiter, northeast/ Big East guy. Perfect fit in my book, and much better than any names mentioned, even if he is from UConn.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If coach M can recruit a point guard and a couple of bigs who can play he will be fine. I think he knows the right kind of people to surround himself with. That's major.
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I'm doing an about face too, to some extent, because I'm hearing that Mullin is likely to take the job if offered. I was dreading a Bobby Hurley or Massielo type of hire. I am skeptical, but would be at least a bit hopeful, if it was Danny Hurley---who has actually won on a consistent basis---instead of his brother, who hasn't proven anything yet.
Btw, if Mullin comes, Terrence might be on the bench with him.
I have no inside info or anything, but I'd bet that Terrence is one of Chris' assistants if Chris comes on board.
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Is Terrence a plus or minus?
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Is Terrence a plus or minus?
Big plus from what I'm being told.
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Is Terrence a plus or minus?
Big plus from what I'm being told.
In what sense?
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What is Terrence doing now? I googled him and nothing came up. Just curious.
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What is Terrence doing now? I googled him and nothing came up. Just curious.
Job in the city
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Guys if Mullin comes here, we have to think he is smart enough to play the game and do what he has to do to win. He has instant credibility in the tri-state area, especially with the NY High School community. And he also has credibility nationally, because everyone knows who he is. His connections and time in the NBA is a major plus to sell kids. And he will bring in at least one, if not more, really good recruiter, because he is smart enough to do that. Chris Mullin loves NY and loves this school too much to not give 1000000%. Will there be a learning curve? Of course! Is there a risk as between him and say Danny Hurley (who I also think deserves serious consideration), of course! But Chris is not taking this job to go about it half-arsed.
I have no inside information whatsoever on this. But based on what I've read about Mullin, and knowing how fond he is of SJU and New York City, logic dictates that he would only accept this job if he was supremely confident that he would succeed, and that he would fight like hell and do everything possible to ensure that happens
Echoing my sentiments......Mullin will succeed.....He will need recruiters but any major recruit is certain to be impressed by a Hall of Famer who played on the greatest team ever assembled. Mullin's hiring would be a media event and dramatically increase media exposure in the future.... which will impress recruits as well.
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Guys if Mullin comes here, we have to think he is smart enough to play the game and do what he has to do to win. He has instant credibility in the tri-state area, especially with the NY High School community. And he also has credibility nationally, because everyone knows who he is. His connections and time in the NBA is a major plus to sell kids. And he will bring in at least one, if not more, really good recruiter, because he is smart enough to do that. Chris Mullin loves NY and loves this school too much to not give 1000000%. Will there be a learning curve? Of course! Is there a risk as between him and say Danny Hurley (who I also think deserves serious consideration), of course! But Chris is not taking this job to go about it half-arsed.
I have no inside information whatsoever on this. But based on what I've read about Mullin, and knowing how fond he is of SJU and New York City, logic dictates that he would only accept this job if he was supremely confident that he would succeed, and that he would fight like hell and do everything possible to ensure that happens
Echoing my sentiments......Mullin will succeed.....He will need recruiters but any major recruit is certain to be impressed by a Hall of Famer who played on the greatest team ever assembled. Mullin's hiring would be a media event and dramatically increase media exposure in the future.... which will impress recruits as well.
Mrs. Lavin was the Queen of Queens, it's hard to beat that in terms of media darlings. :-)
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Is Terrence a plus or minus?
Big plus from what I'm being told.
In what sense?
why?
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Guys if Mullin comes here, we have to think he is smart enough to play the game and do what he has to do to win. He has instant credibility in the tri-state area, especially with the NY High School community. And he also has credibility nationally, because everyone knows who he is. His connections and time in the NBA is a major plus to sell kids. And he will bring in at least one, if not more, really good recruiter, because he is smart enough to do that. Chris Mullin loves NY and loves this school too much to not give 1000000%. Will there be a learning curve? Of course! Is there a risk as between him and say Danny Hurley (who I also think deserves serious consideration), of course! But Chris is not taking this job to go about it half-arsed.
I have no inside information whatsoever on this. But based on what I've read about Mullin, and knowing how fond he is of SJU and New York City, logic dictates that he would only accept this job if he was supremely confident that he would succeed, and that he would fight like hell and do everything possible to ensure that happens.
We have no idea what he'll do here. Could be great. Could be an utter disaster.
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Is Terrence a plus or minus?
Big plus from what I'm being told.
In what sense?
why?
Why what? just trying to understand what you mean by big plus, nothing malicious about it.
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What coach in his right mind wants this job. Anyone who accepts the job is crazy. Look at the last 6 coaches we have had since Louie--every one of them has left in disgrace. This is all due to the Curse of the Redmen because the name change occurred in Mahoney's tenure after his successful 1992-93 season. Seriously the job has been a coach's graveyard, even for one who was to 2 NIT's and 2 NCAA's after years of abject failure.
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What coach in his right mind wants this job. Anyone who accepts the job is crazy. Look at the last 6 coaches we have had since Louie--every one of them has left in disgrace. This is all due to the Curse of the Redmen because the name change occurred in Mahoney's tenure after his successful 1992-93 season. Seriously the job has been a coach's graveyard, even for one who was to 2 NIT's and 2 NCAA's after years of abject failure.
For this coaching search, they should watch the Seinfeld episode where George does the opposite of everything he is normally inclined to do.
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What coach in his right mind wants this job. Anyone who accepts the job is crazy. Look at the last 6 coaches we have had since Louie--every one of them has left in disgrace. This is all due to the Curse of the Redmen because the name change occurred in Mahoney's tenure after his successful 1992-93 season. Seriously the job has been a coach's graveyard, even for one who was to 2 NIT's and 2 NCAA's after years of abject failure.
For this coaching search, they should watch the Seinfeld episode where George does the opposite of everything he is normally inclined to do.
Works every time :)
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What coach in his right mind wants this job. Anyone who accepts the job is crazy. Look at the last 6 coaches we have had since Louie--every one of them has left in disgrace. This is all due to the Curse of the Redmen because the name change occurred in Mahoney's tenure after his successful 1992-93 season. Seriously the job has been a coach's graveyard, even for one who was to 2 NIT's and 2 NCAA's after years of abject failure.
For this coaching search, they should watch the Seinfeld episode where George does the opposite of everything he is normally inclined to do.
Works every time :)
The Summer of George
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Is Terrence a plus or minus?
Big plus from what I'm being told.
In what sense?
Just passing on what I was told by someone who would know. I don't know anything about his coaching acumen.
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I'm doing an about face too, to some extent, because I'm hearing that Mullin is likely to take the job if offered. I was dreading a Bobby Hurley or Massielo type of hire. I am skeptical, but would be at least a bit hopeful, if it was Danny Hurley---who has actually won on a consistent basis---instead of his brother, who hasn't proven anything yet.
Btw, if Mullin comes, Terrence might be on the bench with him.
I have no inside info or anything, but I'd bet that Terrence is one of Chris' assistants if Chris comes on board.
Maybe Chris Mullin Jr. transfers in to be a walkon too. I obviously wouldn't expect any contribution during meaningful games, but it would still be kind of cool to continue the legacy. Last I heard he wen tot Loyala Marymount, but I don't know if he played this year.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
are you surprised? so many vague posts that can mean almost anything
It definitely means what it says. I don't think I've been vague.
I've laid out possible scenarios for everything regarding coaching situation and scooped the news of announcement. It's no coincidence that at some point mainstream media has started to say same things about coaching candidates today than what was posted here days ago. Additionally being right today could mean you're wrong tomorrow. That is the business of sports.
I can care less about reporting news anymore. Not the business I'm in and I'm simply just trying to share information with community here.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
are you surprised? so many vague posts that can mean almost anything
It definitely means what it says. I don't think I've been vague.
I've laid out possible scenarios for everything regarding coaching situation and scooped the news of announcement. It's no coincidence that at some point mainstream media has started to say same things about coaching candidates today than what was posted here days ago. Additionally being right today could mean you're wrong tomorrow. That is the business of sports.
I can care less about reporting news anymore. Not the business I'm in and I'm simply just trying to share information with community here.
We appreciate any info, Dave, but you are certainly being vague. Not a single person has a clue what you are trying to say. Can you break it down better? I am interested in why you think we'll be good next year. I'm looking for reasons to be optimistic.
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5-star center Stone just popped for Maryland, so maybe the Greek kid is ours to lose depending on HC?
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5-star center Stone just popped for Maryland, so maybe the Greek kid is ours to lose depending on HC?
maryland doing damage recruiting
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
are you surprised? so many vague posts that can mean almost anything
It definitely means what it says. I don't think I've been vague.
I've laid out possible scenarios for everything regarding coaching situation and scooped the news of announcement. It's no coincidence that at some point mainstream media has started to say same things about coaching candidates today than what was posted here days ago. Additionally being right today could mean you're wrong tomorrow. That is the business of sports.
I can care less about reporting news anymore. Not the business I'm in and I'm simply just trying to share information with community here.
Appreciate the info Dave keep it coming. I think you were pretty clear in that you think it will be Mullin here.
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5-star center Stone just popped for Maryland, so maybe the Greek kid is ours to lose depending on HC?
maryland doing damage recruiting
Just remember a year ago Maryland fans wanted to run Turgeon out of town. 3 straight non-NCAA years, best player Len declares for the NBA and I think they had 5 players TRANSFER out including key contributors. Remember his key DMV recruiter Dalonte Hill resigned after a DUI in 2013. From a certain perspective you could argue that he had created a mess at Maryland. A year later he finishes 2nd in the Big 10 and away they go.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
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why are you speaking in such generalities...what does "if things go down how I think they will" mean...
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Bleacher Report @BleacherReport
.@MettaWorldPeace expresses interest in St. John’s head coaching vacancy ble.ac/196Cfz1 pic.twitter.com/fBUR8u2xld
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Bleacher Report @BleacherReport
.@MettaWorldPeace expresses interest in St. John’s head coaching vacancy ble.ac/196Cfz1 pic.twitter.com/fBUR8u2xld
He have his degree?
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
are you surprised? so many vague posts that can mean almost anything
It definitely means what it says. I don't think I've been vague.
I've laid out possible scenarios for everything regarding coaching situation and scooped the news of announcement. It's no coincidence that at some point mainstream media has started to say same things about coaching candidates today than what was posted here days ago. Additionally being right today could mean you're wrong tomorrow. That is the business of sports.
I can care less about reporting news anymore. Not the business I'm in and I'm simply just trying to share information with community here.
Appreciate the info Dave keep it coming. I think you were pretty clear in that you think it will be Mullin here.
What gave it away? The fact that I said it? lol
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Bleacher Report @BleacherReport
.@MettaWorldPeace expresses interest in St. John’s head coaching vacancy ble.ac/196Cfz1 pic.twitter.com/fBUR8u2xld
He have his degree?
boxing degree
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
why are you speaking in such generalities...what does "if things go down how I think they will" mean...
If you read my previous posts it makes more sense. I don't need to keep repeating myself.
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To clarify what Dave described is possible but I think all the domino would literally have to fall in order for that entire scenario to play out.
But even part of that scenario would be good and not unreasonable.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
are you surprised? so many vague posts that can mean almost anything
It definitely means what it says. I don't think I've been vague.
I've laid out possible scenarios for everything regarding coaching situation and scooped the news of announcement. It's no coincidence that at some point mainstream media has started to say same things about coaching candidates today than what was posted here days ago. Additionally being right today could mean you're wrong tomorrow. That is the business of sports.
I can care less about reporting news anymore. Not the business I'm in and I'm simply just trying to share information with community here.
Appreciate the info Dave keep it coming. I think you were pretty clear in that you think it will be Mullin here.
What gave it away? The fact that I said it? lol
I think we all got the part where you think Mullin will be coach. It was the other part--us being really good next year--that was cryptic. Really good on the court? On the sidelines? Both?
I think I've pieced it together with the help of others.
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Daves got the piece to the puzzle (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvtCHbgjRjODAizn21HqKS2LYLT6dlxCmqk-6iWnj4jr1peSDk)
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
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To clarify what Dave described is possible but I think all the domino would literally have to fall in order for that entire scenario to play out.
But even part of that scenario would be good and not unreasonable.
Dominos usually fall in order, so we're in good shape.
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
That would be like hitting a $25 7 team parlay for $4K
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Now Patrick Ewing wants the job too
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
LOL exactly what I was thinking...but in my version Briscoe and Slice bring another UK commit--you know they will all be up for grabs when Cal leaves.
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I'm sorry but if mullin and ewing are up for same job, how could you even interview ewing
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I'm sorry but if mullin and ewing are up for same job, how could you even interview ewing
I think Danny Hurley to be named head coach shortly
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that would make me very happy, and get down to work rebuilding this roster
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I'm sorry but if mullin and ewing are up for same job, how could you even interview ewing
I think Danny Hurley to be named head coach shortly
Boring. I thought you were going to ride the Cluess train for some good kicks.
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
LOL exactly what I was thinking...but in my version Briscoe and Slice bring another UK commit--you know they will all be up for grabs when Cal leaves.
Cal is not leaving.
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I'm sorry but if mullin and ewing are up for same job, how could you even interview ewing
I think Danny Hurley to be named head coach shortly
Boring. I thought you were going to ride the Cluess train for some good kicks.
Haha nah i don't even think he gets looked out
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Im confused. You were in the extend Lavin camp for stability reasons this whole time but you seem awfully optimistic about the direction of the program just hours after it was announced Lavin is out. Hmm....
Dave is just reporting what he is hearing. Doesn't mean he' has changed his tune. But I too would like some clarity on what the heck Dave is talking about.
For him to now say that St. John's will be very talented next year and to tweet "St. John’s will be in a very good situation next season. Will reload in a NY minute. #sjubb" sure sounds like he changed his tune to me. I don't expect him to elaborate though
are you surprised? so many vague posts that can mean almost anything
It definitely means what it says. I don't think I've been vague.
I've laid out possible scenarios for everything regarding coaching situation and scooped the news of announcement. It's no coincidence that at some point mainstream media has started to say same things about coaching candidates today than what was posted here days ago. Additionally being right today could mean you're wrong tomorrow. That is the business of sports.
I can care less about reporting news anymore. Not the business I'm in and I'm simply just trying to share information with community here.
Appreciate the info Dave keep it coming. I think you were pretty clear in that you think it will be Mullin here.
What gave it away? The fact that I said it? lol
I think we all got the part where you think Mullin will be coach. It was the other part--us being really good next year--that was cryptic. Really good on the court? On the sidelines? Both?
I think I've pieced it together with the help of others.
I kinda think that he means results on the court??? hmmm
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Well, another domino just got pushed down - Diamond Stone just committed to Terps. Awesome news. Anyone up for some Papa Gianni's today to go with their beer?
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I can't see Mullin being a disaster because he knows waaay too much about the finer points of the game. He's still a guy that spends hours in the gym, so I can't envision him not instilling amazing practice habits to his players. Not all great players end up being great coaches, but I think Mullin has the skills necessary by far.
The key for him is obtaining good staff members to go out and recruit. It also helps that he stayed in the game and has experience in NBA front offices. He's high profile, and bleeds SJU red. It's pretty much a no lose from all perspectives because we still haven't gotten past mediocrity since he has been here.
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I can't see Mullin being a disaster because he knows waaay too much about the finer points of the game. He's still a guy that spends hours in the gym, so I can't envision him not instilling amazing practice habits to his players. Not all great players end up being great coaches, but I think Mullin has the skills necessary by far.
The key for him is obtaining good staff members to go out and recruit. It also helps that he stayed in the game and has experience in NBA front offices. He's high profile, and bleeds SJU red. It's pretty much a no lose from all perspectives because we still haven't gotten past mediocrity since he has been here.
I do like Dan Hurley a lot, but I agree with you MCNPA. Yes, the fact that he's never coached before does really concern me. But this is a St. John's guy who has been successful at every level in his career. Fantastic player, hired as a GM, been asked multiple times to become a head coach in the NBA. Plus, he genuinely loves this school which goes a long way.
Add that to the fact that fans young and old would be behind him and I think it makes total sense from their perspective.
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I can't see Mullin being a disaster because he knows waaay too much about the finer points of the game. He's still a guy that spends hours in the gym, so I can't envision him not instilling amazing practice habits to his players. Not all great players end up being great coaches, but I think Mullin has the skills necessary by far.
The key for him is obtaining good staff members to go out and recruit. It also helps that he stayed in the game and has experience in NBA front offices. He's high profile, and bleeds SJU red. It's pretty much a no lose from all perspectives because we still haven't gotten past mediocrity since he has been here.
Clyde Drexler and Danny Manning know quite a bit, too.
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Even från fraschilla said last night it should be mullin, he said being back a person who bleeds red and white
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As competitive and accomplished as Mullin is, I can only think that he'd take this job if he really believed he could be successful here.
Yes, the lack of coaching is a knock against him. This is where Danny Hurley gets the nod. However, if Mullin's smart, he surrounds himself with a top recruiter and X's & O's asst on his staff.
Also, I'm sure that Mullin wants to get a feel for the administration at SJU and make sure they're fully committed to fielding a top 25 level hoops program, financially as well as making sure kids can qualify.
I don't believe that the admin that Lavin was working under for most of his tenure was truly committed to supporting a big time, national level college hoops team. The past admin. seemed like they were fine with a competitive team who was still considered major in the NY area, but not nationally.
Under Mullin, the admin's vision and support must be much more wide reaching and they have to think way bigger in terms of financial backing if they want this program to be a legit top 25 team annually.
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
LOL exactly what I was thinking...but in my version Briscoe and Slice bring another UK commit--you know they will all be up for grabs when Cal leaves.
Cal is not leaving.
We'll see. Things change. The Lakers haven't made an offer yet. Maybe he's had of redneckville, and he'd like to live in a real city again?
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Surrounding yourself with a good coaching staff does not equate always to having a successful Program. I thought we all believed that Coach Lavin had a pretty good group of assistants. How did that work out?
I think Coach Lavin became complacent the past few years.
Both Mullin and Hurley would bring different pluses and minuses to our Program. However, I would rather go with Coach Hurley, who has the experience and spirit to continue to be a successful coach.
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
LOL exactly what I was thinking...but in my version Briscoe and Slice bring another UK commit--you know they will all be up for grabs when Cal leaves.
Cal is not leaving.
Heard calhoun on the radio Friday, he said John C definately goes back the NBA at some point, it's just a matter of the right situation coming up.
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I can't see Mullin being a disaster because he knows waaay too much about the finer points of the game. He's still a guy that spends hours in the gym, so I can't envision him not instilling amazing practice habits to his players. Not all great players end up being great coaches, but I think Mullin has the skills necessary by far.
The key for him is obtaining good staff members to go out and recruit. It also helps that he stayed in the game and has experience in NBA front offices. He's high profile, and bleeds SJU red. It's pretty much a no lose from all perspectives because we still haven't gotten past mediocrity since he has been here.
Clyde Drexler and Danny Manning know quite a bit, too.
Your starting already..
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
LOL exactly what I was thinking...but in my version Briscoe and Slice bring another UK commit--you know they will all be up for grabs when Cal leaves.
Cal is not leaving.
Heard calhoun on the radio Friday, he said John C definately goes back the NBA at some point, it's just a matter of the right situation coming up.
If they go undefeated this year then he really has nothing left to accomplish at the college level and might jump to the NBA immediately. Then Shaka gets the UK job and dominos fall across the country
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
LOL exactly what I was thinking...but in my version Briscoe and Slice bring another UK commit--you know they will all be up for grabs when Cal leaves.
Cal is not leaving.
Heard calhoun on the radio Friday, he said John C definately goes back the NBA at some point, it's just a matter of the right situation coming up.
If they go undefeated this year then he really has nothing left to accomplish at the college level and might jump to the NBA immediately. Then Shaka gets the UK job and dominos fall across the country
If Shaka gets the UK job won't be too many dominos as then you replace VCU and then prob a lower mid major (unless an assistant takes the job - Capel again perhaps? And then no more dominos)
Now if jay wright or another coach from a big conference goes to Kentucky, could be tons of dominos.
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ultimate situation, where chips fall perfectly
1) mullin coach
2) slice comes to recruit
3) Cal to NBA, ---> Briscoe here
4) diamond stone popped for UoM , Papa here
5) Diallo here
6)rerecruit sampson
7) CO stays with jordan
some of those even make us competitive next season
LOL exactly what I was thinking...but in my version Briscoe and Slice bring another UK commit--you know they will all be up for grabs when Cal leaves.
Cal is not leaving.
Heard calhoun on the radio Friday, he said John C definately goes back the NBA at some point, it's just a matter of the right situation coming up.
If they go undefeated this year then he really has nothing left to accomplish at the college level and might jump to the NBA immediately. Then Shaka gets the UK job and dominos fall across the country
If Shaka gets the UK job won't be too many dominos as then you replace VCU and then prob a lower mid major (unless an assistant takes the job - Capel again perhaps? And then no more dominos)
Now if jay wright or another coach from a big conference goes to Kentucky, could be tons of dominos.
Yeah good point. If Cal goes to the NBA the biggest dominos will be in recruiting rather than the coaching carousel
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Hearing that there maybe some "snags" in the Mullin to SJU scenario.
Not sure if serious or not.
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Hearing that there maybe some "snags" in the Mullin to SJU scenario.
Not sure if serious or not.
Makes sense, a lot if transition in a very short period of time. Plus going from an being an administrator in the pros to a college coach, while getting ready for the draft can add some complexity.
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Bleacher Report @BleacherReport
.@MettaWorldPeace expresses interest in St. John’s head coaching vacancy ble.ac/196Cfz1 pic.twitter.com/fBUR8u2xld
Ron Ron and CO sucker punching each other at practice, in the lockers, and during the huddle up. What could be more fun? Ron did get a lot out of his own talent.
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Zags tweet.
@AdamZagoria: St. John's G Rysheed Jordan is in a holding pattern, waiting on new coach & what Chris Obekpa does before making next move, per source
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Don't understand the holdup with Mullin. Either he wants it or he doesn't. If he is interested I am sure he has spent plenty of time thinking about it. If he is not interested I am sure he knows that also.
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Lol. It's been 24 hours. You ever decide to change jobs, move family across the country , and embark on something you've never done , all withinh 24 hours?
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Lol. It's been 24 hours. You ever decide to change jobs, move family across the country , and embark on something you've never done , all withinh 24 hours?
He had to be considering this possibility for a long time now. Come on now, as one poster is want to say.
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This will play out within 48 hours. Mullin's job if he wants it. He's deciding. If not its D Hurley. He will take it. Negations will be easy for both. There is no 3rd option
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Coaching Changes
@CoachingChanges
Look for Chris Mullin to be named coach of St John's early this week
#StJohns
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I want Danny Hurley, but I can get behind Mullin. Other than that Bobby Hurley is okay and then it's a bunch of ewww.
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This will play out within 48 hours. Mullin's job if he wants it. He's deciding. If not its D Hurley. He will take it. Negations will be easy for both. There is no 3rd option
3rd option- I'd go with Bobby. Bobby would be my second choice, but that's neither here nor there right now. While more green, I think Bobby will be just as successful, if not more, than Danny.
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Every coach is a risk. The more I think of it, Mullin would be pretty cool. I was just reading Redmen. Many of the posters have Mullin in their Avatars. It would be nice to read the message boards without non stop talk of how the coach sucks every day. Also why hire a Duke hero when we could get our own.
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Every coach is a risk. The more I think of it, Mullin would be pretty cool. I was just reading Redmen. Many of the posters have Mullin in their Avatars. It would be nice to read the message boards without non stop talk of how the coach sucks every day. Also why hire a Duke hero when we could get our own.
But he has no coaching experience anywhere.
Sean Miller started at Pitt. He's coaching Xavier tonight. Why do we care where Bobby or Danny went to college? Why is that relevant? If you're worried that Bobby Hurley would leave for Duke, we should be so lucky.
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I'm all in for Danny Hurley. Seems passionate, hard working, smart, good coach, with a good name and a track record. He's the type of coach we need right now.
I'd be okay with Mullin and a good staff, but would much prefer D Hurley.
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Every coach is a risk. The more I think of it, Mullin would be pretty cool. I was just reading Redmen. Many of the posters have Mullin in their Avatars. It would be nice to read the message boards without non stop talk of how the coach sucks every day. Also why hire a Duke hero when we could get our own.
But he has no coaching experience anywhere.
Sean Miller started at Pitt. He's coaching Xavier tonight. Why do we care where Bobby or Danny went to college? Why is that relevant? If you're worried that Bobby Hurley would leave for Duke, we should be so lucky.
Bobby Hurley has 2 good years at Buffalo, He only got that job because he starred at Duke. The Kid made good points earlier in the week about Hurley's positives. He does have plenty. But he is still inexperienced and would not be considered if he wasn't the player he was at Duke and st. Anthonys
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Every coach is a risk. The more I think of it, Mullin would be pretty cool. I was just reading Redmen. Many of the posters have Mullin in their Avatars. It would be nice to read the message boards without non stop talk of how the coach sucks every day. Also why hire a Duke hero when we could get our own.
This might be the best thing about a St. John's legend being coach. Bashing him the way Lavin was bashed on these boards would be a ban-able offense.
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I don't think it will be Mas, but as time goes on I'm beginning to hope it is.
I think he has the acumen to succeed and the fire to do so as well.
I'll be perfectly happy with Mullin or Danny H, but after a couple of conversations I'm beginning to think Masiello is the best option.
Let me qualify that, if what dave is saying about recruits is true then Mullin will be off to a great start. So I won't be complaining.
But long term. Mas is the best of several good options.
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Mas may be the best long term. But I think he would be the worst short term and that includes Lavin.
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Every coach is a risk. The more I think of it, Mullin would be pretty cool. I was just reading Redmen. Many of the posters have Mullin in their Avatars. It would be nice to read the message boards without non stop talk of how the coach sucks every day. Also why hire a Duke hero when we could get our own.
But he has no coaching experience anywhere.
Sean Miller started at Pitt. He's coaching Xavier tonight. Why do we care where Bobby or Danny went to college? Why is that relevant? If you're worried that Bobby Hurley would leave for Duke, we should be so lucky.
Bobby Hurley has 2 good years at Buffalo, He only got that job because he starred at Duke. The Kid made good points earlier in the week about Hurley's positives. He does have plenty. But he is still inexperienced and would not be considered if he wasn't the player he was at Duke and st. Anthonys
That all may be true. I'm sure his name helped him land the job, but he's always been a very savvy player. In many ways, he's like Mullin as a player. They didn't have all world athleticism, but they had a tremendous feel and bball IQ. He comes trained first by his father, second by Coach K, and last by his brother, who's done well at two schools.
Lou never landed him, and he tried. I'd be thrilled with him as the next coach.
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Mas may be the best long term. But I think he would be the worst short term and that includes Lavin.
I know Mas can coach, he will work as hard or harder than any other coach, and if he came to SJU the faucet would be turned on again and he would be able to recruit very well.
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2 horse race
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2 horse race
Yep
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2 horse race
Absolutely. I want Mas but it's all about Mullin and Hurley.
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2 horse race
Absolutely. I want Mas but it's all about Mullin and Hurley.
I'm cool with either. I have cautious optimism about the future.
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I don't think it will be Mas, but as time goes on I'm beginning to hope it is.
I think he has the acumen to succeed and the fire to do so as well.
I'll be perfectly happy with Mullin or Danny H, but after a couple of conversations I'm beginning to think Masiello is the best option.
Let me qualify that, if what dave is saying about recruits is true then Mullin will be off to a great start. So I won't be complaining.
But long term. Mas is the best of several good options.
Are there any Manhattan insiders on here that know if he's getting an interview? I assume he'll get a chance.
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Mas may be the best long term. But I think he would be the worst short term and that includes Lavin.
SJU his dream job--just the same thing FF said and he was shopping himself by the end of year 2. Mas is not the answer; his non conference and reg season records should be looked at. Danny, while not my choice, is heads above him in coaching experience.
Bottom line is get a HC ASAP as we need to get into the recruiting arena NOW or next year will be a disaster.
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Mas may be the best long term. But I think he would be the worst short term and that includes Lavin.
SJU his dream job--just the same thing FF said and he was shopping himself by the end of year 2. Mas is not the answer; his non conference and reg season records should be looked at. Danny, while not my choice, is heads above him in coaching experience. Buy cheap and we will get what we pay for.
Bottom line is get a HC ASAP as we need to get into the recruiting arena NOW or next year will be a disaster.
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Since when is it a knock on a guy that he is looking for his best oppertunity?
Should Jay Wright have stayed at Hofstra? Bill Self at Tulsa?
It would be insane if a coach at Manhattan knew that his predecessors got oppertunities to double their salaries and move to a bigger league, and he didn't look for those same oppertunities for himself.
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Since when is it a knock on a guy that he is looking for his best oppertunity?
Should Jay Wright have stayed at Hofstra? Bill Self at Tulsa?
It would be insane if a coach at Manhattan knew that his predecessors got oppertunities to double their salaries and move to a bigger league, and he didn't look for those same oppertunities for himself.
Jay didn't leave Nova after 2 years--Mas is looking for a revolving door==got to NCAA's last year and then walked on MC. But if he is hired he is the cheapest available coach and that is not what I want.
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Since when is it a knock on a guy that he is looking for his best oppertunity?
Should Jay Wright have stayed at Hofstra? Bill Self at Tulsa?
It would be insane if a coach at Manhattan knew that his predecessors got oppertunities to double their salaries and move to a bigger league, and he didn't look for those same oppertunities for himself.
Jay didn't leave Nova after 2 years--Mas is looking for a revolving door==got to NCAA's last year and then walked on MC. But if he is hired he is the cheapest available coach and that is not what I want.
I don't know if Mass is looking for a revolving door, but he is looking for a new job. Nothing wrong with that. Unless he does it to us. In that case, he can go F himself.
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Since when is it a knock on a guy that he is looking for his best oppertunity?
Should Jay Wright have stayed at Hofstra? Bill Self at Tulsa?
It would be insane if a coach at Manhattan knew that his predecessors got oppertunities to double their salaries and move to a bigger league, and he didn't look for those same oppertunities for himself.
Jay didn't leave Nova after 2 years--Mas is looking for a revolving door==got to NCAA's last year and then walked on MC. But if he is hired he is the cheapest available coach and that is not what I want.
They're not going to hire him, so it's a mute point.
But why does it matter if he's the cheapest option?
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I don't think it will be Mas, but as time goes on I'm beginning to hope it is.
I think he has the acumen to succeed and the fire to do so as well.
I'll be perfectly happy with Mullin or Danny H, but after a couple of conversations I'm beginning to think Masiello is the best option.
Let me qualify that, if what dave is saying about recruits is true then Mullin will be off to a great start. So I won't be complaining.
But long term. Mas is the best of several good options.
Are there any Manhattan insiders on here that know if he's getting an interview? I assume he'll get a chance.
Manhattan College has insiders?
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Mas may be the best long term. But I think he would be the worst short term and that includes Lavin.
SJU his dream job--just the same thing FF said and he was shopping himself by the end of year 2. Mas is not the answer; his non conference and reg season records should be looked at. Danny, while not my choice, is heads above him in coaching experience.
Bottom line is get a HC ASAP as we need to get into the recruiting arena NOW or next year will be a disaster.
We never really got a straight story on why Fran was fired. I've always believed that Harrington saw the success he was having, and didn't want the program to get too much attention, so he leaked some ridiculous BS complaint about Fran pulling his pants down to show Felipe and Zendon what ball looked like because apparently they didn't know what they were.
Actually, I think both Felipe and Z knew what balls were because they knew who Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, Kerry Kittles and John Wallace were.
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I don't think it will be Mas, but as time goes on I'm beginning to hope it is.
I think he has the acumen to succeed and the fire to do so as well.
I'll be perfectly happy with Mullin or Danny H, but after a couple of conversations I'm beginning to think Masiello is the best option.
Let me qualify that, if what dave is saying about recruits is true then Mullin will be off to a great start. So I won't be complaining.
But long term. Mas is the best of several good options.
Are there any Manhattan insiders on here that know if he's getting an interview? I assume he'll get a chance.
Manhattan College has insiders?
it's what happens when you beat Iona over and over -ha ha ha
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2 horse race
Absolutely. I want Mas but it's all about Mullin and Hurley.
I'm cool with either. I have cautious optimism about the future.
You should. Worst case scenario we end up with Mas or Cluess--both of whom could be very, very good.
How the hell did the committee go with Norm after that record? They almost killed this program.
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
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Dan Hurley and he will bring top local assistant with him
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
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Dan Hurley and he will bring top local assistant with him
I hope you're right again
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Mas may be the best long term. But I think he would be the worst short term and that includes Lavin.
SJU his dream job--just the same thing FF said and he was shopping himself by the end of year 2. Mas is not the answer; his non conference and reg season records should be looked at. Danny, while not my choice, is heads above him in coaching experience.
Bottom line is get a HC ASAP as we need to get into the recruiting arena NOW or next year will be a disaster.
We never really got a straight story on why Fran was fired. I've always believed that Harrington saw the success he was having, and didn't want the program to get too much attention, so he leaked some ridiculous BS complaint about Fran pulling his pants down to show Felipe and Zendon what ball looked like because apparently they didn't know what they were.
Actually, I think both Felipe and Z knew what balls were because they knew who Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, Kerry Kittles and John Wallace were.
Fran was let go because he showed no loyalty, that was from the horses's mouth
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Rick Pitino is a repulsive disgusting abomination of a human being and a tortured little dwarf. But he's also too smart to take this job.
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
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The guy left the knicks right before they were going to get good to go to kentucky. Now he is going to leave Louisville which is also a great college town to come to Union Turnpike. He either really likes bagels or some of you are crazy.
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The guy left the knicks right before they were going to get good to go to kentucky. Now he is going to leave Louisville which is also a great college town to come to Union Turnpike. He either really likes bagels or some of you are crazy.
Hey never discredit the allure of a New York bagel when you aren't in NY anymore
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
To get his horse loving buddy, I'd say pretty deep pockets
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
To get his horse loving buddy, I'd say pretty deep pockets
In total he hasn't contributed even 500k over the past 6 years. Even if he doubled that what is getting done with that?
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
To get his horse loving buddy, I'd say pretty deep pockets
In total he hasn't contributed even 500k over the past 6 years. Even if he doubled that what is getting done with that?
Maybe he wasn't a big Lavin fan
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
To get his horse loving buddy, I'd say pretty deep pockets
In total he hasn't contributed even 500k over the past 6 years. Even if he doubled that what is getting done with that?
Maybe he wasn't a big Lavin fan
So I guess he was really not a big Norm Roberts fan because it was even less before Lavin.
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
To get his horse loving buddy, I'd say pretty deep pockets
In total he hasn't contributed even 500k over the past 6 years. Even if he doubled that what is getting done with that?
Maybe he wasn't a big Lavin fan
So I guess he was really not a big Norm Roberts fan because it was even less before Lavin.
Wouldn't think so
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Question for Dave, if it is hurley and a top area assistant as some are saying, do you still see at John's being very talented next year as you stated earlier?
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
To get his horse loving buddy, I'd say pretty deep pockets
In total he hasn't contributed even 500k over the past 6 years. Even if he doubled that what is getting done with that?
I thought your connections were to the basketball community?
With information like that you would need connections within SJU.
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The guy left the knicks right before they were going to get good to go to kentucky. Now he is going to leave Louisville which is also a great college town to come to Union Turnpike. He either really likes bagels or some of you are crazy.
Hey never discredit the allure of a New York bagel when you aren't in NY anymore
Don't forget pizza...Very true...Especially when you can easily afford the NYC lifestyle and love it...
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The guy left the knicks right before they were going to get good to go to kentucky. Now he is going to leave Louisville which is also a great college town to come to Union Turnpike. He either really likes bagels or some of you are crazy.
Hey never discredit the allure of a New York bagel when you aren't in NY anymore
Don't forget pizza...Very true...Especially when you can easily afford the NYC lifestyle and love it...
Or maybe he doesn't want to play 2nd fiddle in the state of Kentucky
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The pizza around campus is not very good.
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Anything to the pitino angle? Feels like someone making a story to grab some headlines
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-st-john-eye-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-article-1.2165956
No one would accuse Roger Rubin of that right?
I think Pitino is trying to talk up someone from his coaching tree
I disagree there…
Never underestimate Coach P's love of all things NYC. Including his wife's desire to be back in New York area.
Could be the "last challenge" of his distinguished career and his monster ego would love every second of making SJU truly great again. I think its unlikely but not impossible, especially when you have a billionaire backer of the program pushing you to do it.
The one thing with Coach Pitino at this point, it would not be how much SJU could pay him. He is an extremely wealthy and successful person away from basketball. Taking this job would be to show everyone he thinks he is the best in the business.
Good post PMG. Repole will dig deep for this
What is digging deep? I'm not sure he's as big of a donator as people make him out to be. Not to say he isn't a fan or a donator but his contributions may not be as legendary as the internet claims.
To get his horse loving buddy, I'd say pretty deep pockets
In total he hasn't contributed even 500k over the past 6 years. Even if he doubled that what is getting done with that?
Maybe he wasn't a big Lavin fan
So I guess he was really not a big Norm Roberts fan because it was even less before Lavin.
Wouldn't think so
Or he wasn't a AD or prior President fan...It would be dangerous for SJU to have only one donor that totally invested in the program. That is a whole hell of a lot of influence. More donors need to become involved in the program as well. SJU needs to show that they are committed as well.
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The pizza around campus is not very good.
Better then Kentucky's...
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The pizza around campus is not very good.
Better then Kentucky's...
Does Pitino even know where our campus is? When was the last time his team played at CA?
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The guy left the knicks right before they were going to get good to go to kentucky. Now he is going to leave Louisville which is also a great college town to come to Union Turnpike. He either really likes bagels or some of you are crazy.
Knicks hired Pitino before hiring a GM and the new GM Al Bianchi didn't like Pitino and basically forced him out.
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The guy left the knicks right before they were going to get good to go to kentucky. Now he is going to leave Louisville which is also a great college town to come to Union Turnpike. He either really likes bagels or some of you are crazy.
Knicks hired Pitino before hiring a GM and the new GM Al Bianchi didn't like Pitino and basically forced him out.
Didn't know that. I was only 10. Not the way i remember.
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The pizza around campus is not very good.
Better then Kentucky's...
Does Pitino even know where our campus is? When was the last time his team played at CA?
Take a 10 min drive down Union Tpke and hit up Pizza Classica
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The guy left the knicks right before they were going to get good to go to kentucky. Now he is going to leave Louisville which is also a great college town to come to Union Turnpike. He either really likes bagels or some of you are crazy.
Knicks hired Pitino before hiring a GM and the new GM Al Bianchi didn't like Pitino and basically forced him out.
Didn't know that. I was only 10. Not the way i remember.
I followed the approximately 76 day oddessy of the Knicks not naming a coach and everyone saying why aren't they hiring a GM first. Exactly the way it happened sunny boy. ;) :)
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Wasn't debating. Thanks for the info
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Wasn't debating. Thanks for the info
Know you weren't debating I was just funning you that I am somewhat older. LOL
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The pizza around campus is not very good.
Better then Kentucky's...
Does Pitino even know where our campus is? When was the last time his team played at CA?
Take a 10 min drive down Union Tpke and hit up Pizza Classica
Or take a 30 second walk to Acquista Trattoria.
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I'm more of a Romeo's guy myself.
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The pizza around campus is not very good.
Better then Kentucky's...
Does Pitino even know where our campus is? When was the last time his team played at CA?
Take a 10 min drive down Union Tpke and hit up Pizza Classica
Or take a 30 second walk to Acquista Trattoria.
Have you been there recently? They redid the whole place. It's more of a restaurant now. Not even sure if you can order slices to go (haven't tried). It looks really nice now.
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I'm more of a Romeo's guy myself.
Chicken Ceasar slice all day
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
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Fwiw, our next steps as far as coaching goes a person who I trust and is well connected to the college landscape told me pitino wanted the sju job badly. He wanted to come for 3.5 million and if sju would of agreed, he was ours... Sju wanted mullin from the start. Lavin knew this and discussions with mullin started a while ago. Lavin was a dead man walking as soon as sju knew mullin would accept.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
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The players are coming...
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The players are coming...
Yet he thinks Sampson is headed elsewhere.
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The players are coming...
you hearing anything about mitch richmond coming ?
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Yet he thinks Sampson is headed elsewhere.
I was just indicating what I am hearing too. As for Mr. Sampson well you can't be right about everything I meant if he was that would make him like..well me..LOL!!!
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The players are coming...
you hearing anything about mitch richmond coming ?
Very astute Mike. I answered that in a different thread.
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Interesting post by rdstr .....
Not sure I believe it, but interesting.
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Interesting post by rdstr .....
Not sure I believe it, but interesting.
I also heard that they reached out to gauge Mullins interest in the job a while back before the season ended. Not sure if Lavin knew about it or not. The Pitino part I have a tough time believing but the Mullin thing it isn't the first j have heard of it. Worked out really well for us obviously. Onto the task at hand, get me Sampson and Diallo.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
I don't need praise to know I'm good.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
I don't need praise to know I'm good.
Who is seeking praise? I just saw you tossing some shade.
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
I don't need praise to know I'm good.
Who is seeking praise? I just saw you tossing some shade.
I'm driving the conversation
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
I don't need praise to know I'm good.
Who is seeking praise? I just saw you tossing some shade.
Guys guys...should wThis should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
I don't need praise to know I'm good.
Who is seeking praise? I just saw you tossing some shade.
I'm driving the conversation
Guys guys...Foad is available with his centimeter ruler on BEB if you need someone to measure.
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No need
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
I don't need praise to know I'm good.
Who is seeking praise? I just saw you tossing some shade.
I'm driving the conversation
my sources are bigger than your sources...
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This should move along pretty quickly. Could have a new coach announced sometime early next week. I expect it to be the all time leading scorer.
In my humble opinion, that would be a major fail.
If things go down how I think they will then St. John's will be very talented next season.
Just remember what Dave wrote a few weeks ago...
I remember what he wrote.
I also remember him talking about Lavin getting extended.
Regardless back to his statement above. Its vague.
Don't be such a killjoy. I remember him more giving his opinion on what he thought SJU should do. Once it was clear what SJU was going to do regardless of whether it was what Dave thought they should do he was pretty spot on.
Let him pat himself on the back :)
He worded his post perfectly. And also laid out every possible scenario in the process.
Haters gonna hate.
I don't need praise to know I'm good.
Who is seeking praise? I just saw you tossing some shade.
I'm driving the conversation
Just not sure where the animosity is coming from. I don't care but just a little odd.
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They do not think you were sufficiently critical of Coach Lavin. That was unacceptable to them.
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Fwiw, our next steps as far as coaching goes a person who I trust and is well connected to the college landscape told me pitino wanted the sju job badly. He wanted to come for 3.5 million and if sju would of agreed, he was ours... Sju wanted mullin from the start. Lavin knew this and discussions with mullin started a while ago. Lavin was a dead man walking as soon as sju knew mullin would accept.
It's important to remember how Lavin acted after the February 21st game at CA versus Seton Hall. Mullin was honored at the half and sat with Louie during the game, which we won. After the game, when addressed the press, Lavin (unprompted) defended his tenure and his development of the program. That raised a few eyebrows, and, in retrospect, might have been an indiciation that he knew the univeristy was already talking with Mullin.
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Fwiw, our next steps as far as coaching goes a person who I trust and is well connected to the college landscape told me pitino wanted the sju job badly. He wanted to come for 3.5 million and if sju would of agreed, he was ours... Sju wanted mullin from the start. Lavin knew this and discussions with mullin started a while ago. Lavin was a dead man walking as soon as sju knew mullin would accept.
I heard that as well, people I spoke to thought however how Pitino would have gotten through the hiring process with his past indiscretions. His past is his past and it may not go over well at this Catholic institution.
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Fwiw, our next steps as far as coaching goes a person who I trust and is well connected to the college landscape told me pitino wanted the sju job badly. He wanted to come for 3.5 million and if sju would of agreed, he was ours... Sju wanted mullin from the start. Lavin knew this and discussions with mullin started a while ago. Lavin was a dead man walking as soon as sju knew mullin would accept.
I heard that as well, people I spoke to thought however how Pitino would have gotten through the hiring process with his past indiscretions. His past is his past and it may not go over well at this Catholic institution.
Heard the same from people at the university. SJu wanted to start fresh. I know Mulliin has had his issues in the past but it has been swept under the rug. The university just did not want pitino's off the court stuff to be the focal point of the media if they hired him.
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Fwiw, our next steps as far as coaching goes a person who I trust and is well connected to the college landscape told me pitino wanted the sju job badly. He wanted to come for 3.5 million and if sju would of agreed, he was ours... Sju wanted mullin from the start. Lavin knew this and discussions with mullin started a while ago. Lavin was a dead man walking as soon as sju knew mullin would accept.
I heard that as well, people I spoke to thought however how Pitino would have gotten through the hiring process with his past indiscretions. His past is his past and it may not go over well at this Catholic institution.
Heard the same from people at the university. SJu wanted to start fresh. I know Mulliin has had his issues in the past but it has been swept under the rug. The university just did not want pitino's off the court stuff to be the focal point of the media if they hired him.
Chris' issues have not been swept under the table--at his introduction he referred to them with his "One day at a time" comment which is the AA matra. Chris has also been open about his drinking in virtually all interviews. There is nothing hidden here.
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Fwiw, our next steps as far as coaching goes a person who I trust and is well connected to the college landscape told me pitino wanted the sju job badly. He wanted to come for 3.5 million and if sju would of agreed, he was ours... Sju wanted mullin from the start. Lavin knew this and discussions with mullin started a while ago. Lavin was a dead man walking as soon as sju knew mullin would accept.
I heard that as well, people I spoke to thought however how Pitino would have gotten through the hiring process with his past indiscretions. His past is his past and it may not go over well at this Catholic institution.
Heard the same from people at the university. SJu wanted to start fresh. I know Mulliin has had his issues in the past but it has been swept under the rug. The university just did not want pitino's off the court stuff to be the focal point of the media if they hired him.
Chris' issues have not been swept under the table--at his introduction he referred to them with his "One day at a time" comment which is the AA matra. Chris has also been open about his drinking in virtually all interviews. There is nothing hidden here.
I should rephrase what i meant as far as sweeping under the rug. What i meant was, it is something that people have looked past as a deterrent to be hired as coach of SJU, something the university would not do in Pitino's case. Pitino could of come out and talked about what he did to the public, but SJU would not of hired him anyway.
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I still doubt that Pitino wanted to come here for $3.5mil. I have no doubt that it's true that the school was in discussions with Mullin for awhile, or had been leaning that way.
This obviously didn't happen over night. And the fact SL didn't get an extension in Oct-Dec pretty much confirmed that it was the end of his time here.
But I just don't see the side of this that Pitino wanted to come here. He makes $5.7 at Louisville according to reports. Why take that much less money to go somewhere where you have less of a possibility of adding to your Final Fours or a championship.
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I still doubt that Pitino wanted to come here for $3.5mil. I have no doubt that it's true that the school was in discussions with Mullin for awhile, or had been leaning that way.
This obviously didn't happen over night. And the fact SL didn't get an extension in Oct-Dec pretty much confirmed that it was the end of his time here.
Per the UK guys, Pitino wanted to come back to NY. He has always had a heavy heart for SJU and from what I was told, he had grown tired of the UL vs UK rivalry. It was never about the money. It was to get a fresh start at a place he felt he could have sucess at.
But I just don't see the side of this that Pitino wanted to come here. He makes $5.7 at Louisville according to reports. Why take that much less money to go somewhere where you have less of a possibility of adding to your Final Fours or a championship.
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Fwiw, our next steps as far as coaching goes a person who I trust and is well connected to the college landscape told me pitino wanted the sju job badly. He wanted to come for 3.5 million and if sju would of agreed, he was ours... Sju wanted mullin from the start. Lavin knew this and discussions with mullin started a while ago. Lavin was a dead man walking as soon as sju knew mullin would accept.
It's important to remember how Lavin acted after the February 21st game at CA versus Seton Hall. Mullin was honored at the half and sat with Louie during the game, which we won. After the game, when addressed the press, Lavin (unprompted) defended his tenure and his development of the program. That raised a few eyebrows, and, in retrospect, might have been an indiciation that he knew the univeristy was already talking with Mullin.
These posts above are very good. I always tried to watch Lavin's press conferences -- any coach of a team I root for in fact. It's important to see how the coach handles himself and to see his demeanor. I thought Lavin did a lot of deflecting, usually. But he was on high alert with Mullin there.
At halftime, I believe, Mullin was interviewed. Maybe it was pre-game. Mullin was classy but he indicted the program. He said there is a way to do it at St. John's & you have to use local kids, that the city wants to root for their own, etc. At that time, I was not thinking about Mullin coming in here, but I had a feeling if the higher ups asked him about Lavin, he would not have endorsed him.
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Very happy we have mullin. Don't know why Lavin has to take a shot every 15 or so posts. The team played very well vs seton hall. I don't think for a second Lavin was thinking about Chris mullin taking his job. Just becuse one person thinks that, posts it on a message board, then gets repeated, doesn't make it a fact.
Lavin had his chance . If we are competitive the last few games he would still be here. That's what I believe . I think he would agree. I don't think he was looking over his shoulder at Chris mullin. Also I am sure he was not happy that he was fired. Still he is making more next year to stay home then I will make in the next 15 years.
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Very happy we have mullin. Don't know why Lavin has to take a shot every 15 or so posts. The team played very well vs seton hall. I don't think for a second Lavin was thinking about Chris mullin taking his job. Just becuse one person thinks that, posts it on a message board, then gets repeated, doesn't make it a fact.
Lavin had his chance . If we are competitive the last few games he would still be here. That's what I believe . I think he would agree. I don't think he was looking over his shoulder at Chris mullin. Also I am sure he was not happy that he was fired. Still he is making more next year to stay home then I will make in the next 15 years.
Lavin knew he was fighting for an extension, regardless of Mullin was involved or not. When the new President came on board he had players ruled ineligable...Not a great way to start....I do agree that if Lavin went on the end of the season it would have been difficult not to extend him.
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Very happy we have mullin. Don't know why Lavin has to take a shot every 15 or so posts. The team played very well vs seton hall. I don't think for a second Lavin was thinking about Chris mullin taking his job. Just becuse one person thinks that, posts it on a message board, then gets repeated, doesn't make it a fact.
Lavin had his chance . If we are competitive the last few games he would still be here. That's what I believe . I think he would agree. I don't think he was looking over his shoulder at Chris mullin. Also I am sure he was not happy that he was fired. Still he is making more next year to stay home then I will make in the next 15 years.
Hello TONYD3. I've taken a lot of shots at Lavin, mostly on Twitter. I think people take shots where they are deserved sometimes. If Lavin woulda done a better job over the last 15 games, could he have parlayed that into a roster for next season? BC after year 5, not having won a thing, you shouldn't get another 5-6 years to re rebuild. He would've needed to win AND recruit better and he didn't do either.
Since there was a disconnect between the alumni & Lavin, then Lavin would definitely be worried about his fat pay check & his car & driver, IMO, when Chris Mullin comes to be honored and ppl go crazy for him, considering that Lavin was used to a lot of positive attention all the time. Did you hear what Mullin said about the program that night?
At no point did we see Lavin "coach for his life." He admitted he felt no pressure to win.
Now I would not disrespect Mullin by suggesting he wanted another man's job. Mullin is not the type to go lobby for somebody's job. Moreso, the higher ups were interested in Mullin, not vice versa. But Chris, not about to lie, told the truth about needing to build out around local kids when asked.
The outcome of the Seton Hall game is irrelevant.
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They do not think you were sufficiently critical of Coach Lavin. That was unacceptable to them.
Does Lavin know his agent is still posting here?
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U miss my point. If he did better he would be here. Plenty of reasonable shots to take at him. He did a good job vs seton hall. Team played very well.
Coach did good. That is the what happened that game. Did he fxck up other times,YES! Complain then. He is gone.
The no pressure to win is bull shit. Lavin was very into every game. Was he coaching for his life? Probably not. He is rich. To say he didnt care is also not true. U and many hate him, he is gone.
Honestly don't remember Mullin's speech.
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U miss my point. If he did better he would be here. Plenty of reasonable shots to take at him. He did a good job vs seton hall. Team played very well.
Coach did good. That is the what happened that game. Did he fxck up other times,YES! Complain then. He is gone.
The no pressure to win is bull shit. Lavin was very into every game. Was he coaching for his life? Probably not. He is rich. To say he didnt care is also not true. U and many hate him, he is gone.
Honestly don't remember Mullin's speech.
The no pressure to win is a direct quote from Lavin so in your words it is Lavin BS.
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U miss my point. If he did better he would be here. Plenty of reasonable shots to take at him. He did a good job vs seton hall. Team played very well.
Coach did good. That is the what happened that game. Did he fxck up other times,YES! Complain then. He is gone.
The no pressure to win is bull shit. Lavin was very into every game. Was he coaching for his life? Probably not. He is rich. To say he didnt care is also not true. U and many hate him, he is gone.
Honestly don't remember Mullin's speech.
Tony, we're not criticizing, perse. We are talking about what happened that night, and down the road.
If SJU played well that night, then Lavin should go out & say that to the media. Instead, the focus was on his tenure.
Why is he talking about his tenure on the night they honored Chris Mullin, after a nice win?
BC 2+2=4, probably.
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I don't care what he said to the media. I sat next behind the Seton Hall bench and had a great time. Team played great and were well coached. If he brought up his tenure, maybe it could have been because it was senior day. The team played great in the second half. To remember anything from that game that was not postive is amazing. What I remember now that I am thinking about it was thanking the seniors and saying how much he enjoyed coaching them. That was not Chris Mullin Day. I was happy to see Mullin and cheered for him, then went to the bathroom and got ready for the second half.
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U miss my point. If he did better he would be here. Plenty of reasonable shots to take at him. He did a good job vs seton hall. Team played very well.
Coach did good. That is the what happened that game. Did he fxck up other times,YES! Complain then. He is gone.
The no pressure to win is bull shit. Lavin was very into every game. Was he coaching for his life? Probably not. He is rich. To say he didnt care is also not true. U and many hate him, he is gone.
Honestly don't remember Mullin's speech.
Tony, we're not criticizing, perse. We are talking about what happened that night, and down the road.
If SJU played well that night, then Lavin should go out & say that to the media. Instead, the focus was on his tenure.
Why is he talking about his tenure on the night they honored Chris Mullin, after a nice win?
BC 2+2=4, probably.
When they honor Chris Mullin at half time next season, who's going to be in the locker room with the team?
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U miss my point. If he did better he would be here. Plenty of reasonable shots to take at him. He did a good job vs seton hall. Team played very well.
Coach did good. That is the what happened that game. Did he fxck up other times,YES! Complain then. He is gone.
The no pressure to win is bull shit. Lavin was very into every game. Was he coaching for his life? Probably not. He is rich. To say he didnt care is also not true. U and many hate him, he is gone.
Honestly don't remember Mullin's speech.
Tony, we're not criticizing, perse. We are talking about what happened that night, and down the road.
If SJU played well that night, then Lavin should go out & say that to the media. Instead, the focus was on his tenure.
Why is he talking about his tenure on the night they honored Chris Mullin, after a nice win?
BC 2+2=4, probably.
When they honor Chris Mullin at half time next season, who's going to be in the locker room with the team?
@NYPost_Brazille: St John's entire staff expected to not only meet with Cheick Diallo this weekend, but also Brandon Sampson, source says. #sjubb
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I don't care what he said to the media. I sat next behind the Seton Hall bench and had a great time. Team played great and were well coached. If he brought up his tenure, maybe it could have been because it was senior day. The team played great in the second half. To remember anything from that game that was not postive is amazing. What I remember now that I am thinking about it was thanking the seniors and saying how much he enjoyed coaching them. That was not Chris Mullin Day. I was happy to see Mullin and cheered for him, then went to the bathroom and got ready for the second half.
Well, we are all happy you had fun, bro. & you relieved yourself, to boot!
Maybe Lavin did bring up his tenure bc it was senior night. But either way, he felt he had to.
Lavin was a very interesting guy to follow, in terms of his media interactions. & people are wondering about some of his more curious takes, like after Seton Hall. Esp w/Mullin in the house, having suggested St. John's had a skewed recruiting focus away from NYC.
So, are you one of those guys that's happy and easy to please? They won, and you went, so how dare anyone say anything other than that?
It's a message board, bro. I'm a Jets fan. Should I be happy they beat Tenn? Should we be happy if we are Knicks fans that they decided to win these last couple of games? Are there not tons of other issues that we can comment on besides what happened on the floor?
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I don't care what he said to the media. I sat next behind the Seton Hall bench and had a great time. Team played great and were well coached. If he brought up his tenure, maybe it could have been because it was senior day. The team played great in the second half. To remember anything from that game that was not postive is amazing. What I remember now that I am thinking about it was thanking the seniors and saying how much he enjoyed coaching them. That was not Chris Mullin Day. I was happy to see Mullin and cheered for him, then went to the bathroom and got ready for the second half.
Well, we are all happy you had fun, bro. & you relieved yourself, to boot!
Maybe Lavin did bring up his tenure bc it was senior night. But either way, he felt he had to.
Lavin was a very interesting guy to follow, in terms of his media interactions. & people are wondering about some of his more curious takes, like after Seton Hall. Esp w/Mullin in the house, having suggested St. John's had a skewed recruiting focus away from NYC.
So, are you one of those guys that's happy and easy to please? They won, and you went, so how dare anyone say anything other than that?
It's a message board, bro. I'm a Jets fan. Should I be happy they beat Tenn? Should we be happy if we are Knicks fans that they decided to win these last couple of games? Are there not tons of other issues that we can comment on besides what happened on the floor?
The Jets made the playoffs?
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Who cares about Lavin. This thread is called next steps and people are brining up all stuff from the past. Let's move forward hear, amazing that with all the positive stuff going on with the program people want to talk about the past constantly.
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Seriously, stop posting about Lavin. It's over move on.
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I don't care what he said to the media. I sat next behind the Seton Hall bench and had a great time. Team played great and were well coached. If he brought up his tenure, maybe it could have been because it was senior day. The team played great in the second half. To remember anything from that game that was not postive is amazing. What I remember now that I am thinking about it was thanking the seniors and saying how much he enjoyed coaching them. That was not Chris Mullin Day. I was happy to see Mullin and cheered for him, then went to the bathroom and got ready for the second half.
Well, we are all happy you had fun, bro. & you relieved yourself, to boot!
Maybe Lavin did bring up his tenure bc it was senior night. But either way, he felt he had to.
Lavin was a very interesting guy to follow, in terms of his media interactions. & people are wondering about some of his more curious takes, like after Seton Hall. Esp w/Mullin in the house, having suggested St. John's had a skewed recruiting focus away from NYC.
So, are you one of those guys that's happy and easy to please? They won, and you went, so how dare anyone say anything other than that?
It's a message board, bro. I'm a Jets fan. Should I be happy they beat Tenn? Should we be happy if we are Knicks fans that they decided to win these last couple of games? Are there not tons of other issues that we can comment on besides what happened on the floor?
He wasn't that interesting. Time to move on as the thread title suggests. Good things ahead, bro.
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Here, here! No more Lavin talk. Let's all focus on the amazing developments that are happpening under Mullin.
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I tend to look at things through rose colored glasses too. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. True, he hired two great recruiters, but they haven't, as of yet, yielded any blue chip talent that would elevate the team to last year's heights. When you look at what we lost from last year's team, it is almost all of the production. Sima is an imprtant piece, and I'm glad we got him, but he is not going to put up many points. Who is going to fill the production of Harrison, Greene, Pointer and Branch? As of right now, nobody. Williams is the only recruit that seems capable of scoring on a regular basis. I will be waiting and watching the recruitment of Sampson, Diallo, and a point guard (hopefully Ricky Tarrant). They still need two or three blue chippers to be competitive in conference next year. One has to realize all the things that Pointer did on the court inccluding guarding people taller then him or shorter, quicker guards. The rebounding, the shot blocking, and the point production, especially down the stretch.
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With our size and depth, we will need fewer points....we should give up way fewer points inside and off of offensive rebounds....I guess whether we can generate the same number of turnovers is a question.
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I tend to look at things through rose colored glasses too. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. True, he hired two great recruiters, but they haven't, as of yet, yielded any blue chip talent that would elevate the team to last year's heights. When you look at what we lost from last year's team, it is almost all of the production. Sima is an imprtant piece, and I'm glad we got him, but he is not going to put up many points. Who is going to fill the production of Harrison, Greene, Pointer and Branch? As of right now, nobody. Williams is the only recruit that seems capable of scoring on a regular basis. I will be waiting and watching the recruitment of Sampson, Diallo, and a point guard (hopefully Ricky Tarrant). They still need two or three blue chippers to be competitive in conference next year. One has to realize all the things that Pointer did on the court inccluding guarding people taller then him or shorter, quicker guards. The rebounding, the shot blocking, and the point production, especially down the stretch.
Sensible post. Mullin & staff are building the foundation year one. I'm not allowing my excitement to distort the big picture.
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I tend to look at things through rose colored glasses too. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. True, he hired two great recruiters, but they haven't, as of yet, yielded any blue chip talent that would elevate the team to last year's heights. When you look at what we lost from last year's team, it is almost all of the production. Sima is an imprtant piece, and I'm glad we got him, but he is not going to put up many points. Who is going to fill the production of Harrison, Greene, Pointer and Branch? As of right now, nobody. Williams is the only recruit that seems capable of scoring on a regular basis. I will be waiting and watching the recruitment of Sampson, Diallo, and a point guard (hopefully Ricky Tarrant). They still need two or three blue chippers to be competitive in conference next year. One has to realize all the things that Pointer did on the court inccluding guarding people taller then him or shorter, quicker guards. The rebounding, the shot blocking, and the point production, especially down the stretch.
Sensible post. Mullin & staff are building the foundation year one. I'm not allowing my excitement to distort the big picture.
People are excited for next year and years to come but I don't think anyone thinks with the team we hve right now that we will be very good next year. If we do land some of the big recruits then yes we can get excited but the staff inherited besides Obepka and Jordan a depleted roster. Anything these do in this spring period I consider a bonus. Can't expect them to work miracles but they are working there asses off to make us good starting next year.
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I tend to look at things through rose colored glasses too. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. True, he hired two great recruiters, but they haven't, as of yet, yielded any blue chip talent that would elevate the team to last year's heights. When you look at what we lost from last year's team, it is almost all of the production. Sima is an imprtant piece, and I'm glad we got him, but he is not going to put up many points. Who is going to fill the production of Harrison, Greene, Pointer and Branch? As of right now, nobody. Williams is the only recruit that seems capable of scoring on a regular basis. I will be waiting and watching the recruitment of Sampson, Diallo, and a point guard (hopefully Ricky Tarrant). They still need two or three blue chippers to be competitive in conference next year. One has to realize all the things that Pointer did on the court inccluding guarding people taller then him or shorter, quicker guards. The rebounding, the shot blocking, and the point production, especially down the stretch.
Sensible post. Mullin & staff are building the foundation year one. I'm not allowing my excitement to distort the big picture.
People are excited for next year and years to come but I don't think anyone thinks with the team we hve right now that we will be very good next year. If we do land some of the big recruits then yes we can get excited but the staff inherited besides Obepka and Jordan a depleted roster. Anything these do in this spring period I consider a bonus. Can't expect them to work miracles but they are working there asses off to make us good starting next year.
Hello again.
I'm very optimistic. I know ppl are like ugh when you mention Lavin but the team seems in much better shape for next year since Mullin came on.
Obekpa & Jordan might be used better, available more w/a wiser staff. It was bad basketball last year, for the most part. 5-7 minute stretches w/o scoring & I know that's CBB to an extent, but I'm confident that whatever guys we get will be smarter & will have a better plan.
We had talented guards but no real point guard. That will be addressed. We had no bigs, no real post presence, & Mullin seems to be addressing that also.
And I don't know if we'll be great, but we were considered good last year, and without doing projections on who will do what, it doesn't seem like being better than last year is unreachable.
OPTIMISM!!!!!!
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If Lavin, Jordan and obekpa were back I thought we would be ok. I am hoping for good. Let's get Sampson.
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If Lavin, Jordan and obekpa were back I thought we would be ok. I am hoping for good. Let's get Sampson.
A lot of good players are available. We can be good, I agree. Sampson would be nice but there's other guys too.
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
We had a ton of depth in 2014.
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
How could anyone be sold on a player that hasn't played yet?
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
We had a ton of depth in 2014.
6 man rotations and the casual Balamou/AA sightings is not depth.
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
How could anyone be sold on a player that hasn't played yet?
Sold on who? If you're speaking in regards to Diallo/Sampson, then yes, I'm sold they can contribute and that's without them stepping foot in a College game yet. I don't need to see them play a College game to know that quite honestly.
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
We had a ton of depth in 2014.
6 man rotations and the casual Balamou/AA sightings is not depth.
Might be talking about 2013-14 when we had Jakarr, Orlando (Two NBA Players) Gods'Gift. That team was rather deep in the frontcourt, Dom played 20? mins a game....
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
We had a ton of depth in 2014.
6 man rotations and the casual Balamou/AA sightings is not depth.
Might be talking about 2013-14 when we had Jakarr, Orlando (Two NBA Players) Gods'Gift. That team was rather deep in the frontcourt, Dom played 20? mins a game....
Yes, thank you. That's what I was referring to.
Much more depth in the front court. Same guard rotations.
Plus the two shooters.
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
We had a ton of depth in 2014.
6 man rotations and the casual Balamou/AA sightings is not depth.
Might be talking about 2013-14 when we had Jakarr, Orlando (Two NBA Players) Gods'Gift. That team was rather deep in the frontcourt, Dom played 20? mins a game....
Yes, thank you. That's what I was referring to.
Much more depth in the front court. Same guard rotations.
Plus the two shooters.
That squad underachieved big time, it was Lav's best team
Lavin never settled on a rotation but really should have gone with Branch-Dee-Greene-Sampson-Sanchez as his starters and Jordan-Obekpa-Gift off the bench and used Hooper Marco Felix when he needed them Jones was a redshirt
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It's somewhat mind-boggling to me that some people believe this team won't be any good if we land our prime targets. Was I the only one who continuously saw players go over 34 minutes with about a rotation of 6 players? It seems like this is the first time in some time that we actually have depth...front court depth especially.
Land Sampson/Diallo and the chances of an NCAA bid seems very reasonable.
My only concern is lack of PG depth. After Jordan, what do you have? Not sold on Doughty taking that role right away if he arrives on campus. Sampson has mentioned that he has PG ability, but that remains to be seen at the College level.
We had a ton of depth in 2014.
6 man rotations and the casual Balamou/AA sightings is not depth.
Might be talking about 2013-14 when we had Jakarr, Orlando (Two NBA Players) Gods'Gift. That team was rather deep in the frontcourt, Dom played 20? mins a game....
Yes, thank you. That's what I was referring to.
Much more depth in the front court. Same guard rotations.
Plus the two shooters.
That squad underachieved big time, it was Lav's best team
Lavin never settled on a rotation but really should have gone with Branch-Dee-Greene-Sampson-Sanchez as his starters and Jordan-Obekpa-Gift off the bench and used Hooper Marco Felix when he needed them Jones was a redshirt
Pointer?
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Yes off the bench LOL
Gift would have been the 9th guy
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Yes off the bench LOL
Gift would have been the 9th guy
Don't worry. Lavin forgot about Pointer for 3 years
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That was the best talent Lavin had. He should have had that team win a game or two in the NCAA tourney.
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Yes off the bench LOL
Gift would have been the 9th guy
Don't worry. Lavin forgot about Pointer for 3 years
That is embarrassing for me LOL
I was focusing on the starting lineup and felt that Jordan and Obekpa messed things up for that group
As we saw last year the ball needed to b in Branch's hands more and I give Jamal a lot of credit for our making the NCAA last year. When he played our offense was at it's best
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Sanchez year was among the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen. Sampson is in the NBA, Sanchez a decent D league player and Achiewa a more than adequate reserve. Pointer not used properly as this year showed, no one gets that good in a year. With the guard corps the team should have been top 20. Front court depth with CO as well and a great group of guards. TO me that year was the highlight of Lavin's negative legacy.
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Sanchez year was among the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen. Sampson is in the NBA, Sanchez a decent D league player and Achiewa a more than adequate reserve. Pointer not used properly as this year showed, no one gets that good in a year. With the guard corps the team should have been top 20. Front court depth with CO as well and a great group of guards. TO me that year was the highlight of Lavin's negative legacy.
We will look back and always wonder how that squad didn't make the NCAA's
Flip flopped the starting lineup all year
Didn't use Sanchez to expose his size and quickness
Branch needed to run the point
Jordan CO and Pointer should have been the main reserves along with Gift
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Sanchez year was among the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen. Sampson is in the NBA, Sanchez a decent D league player and Achiewa a more than adequate reserve. Pointer not used properly as this year showed, no one gets that good in a year. With the guard corps the team should have been top 20. Front court depth with CO as well and a great group of guards. TO me that year was the highlight of Lavin's negative legacy.
The weak games that were scheduled as well...Very few games to make a statement. The schedule should have been stronger ....Maybe this is Monday morning quarterbacking but I think it was a mistake for not recognizing that he BEC would be perceived as weaker and that just doing well in the conference would not guarantee a bid.
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For a next steps thread we certainly are discussing Lavin a lot. Start a new thread if needed but this is a thread about the future of the program so let's keep it like that. Next step is Diallo and Sampson and it's happening today, huge day.
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Sanchez year was among the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen. Sampson is in the NBA, Sanchez a decent D league player and Achiewa a more than adequate reserve. Pointer not used properly as this year showed, no one gets that good in a year. With the guard corps the team should have been top 20. Front court depth with CO as well and a great group of guards. TO me that year was the highlight of Lavin's negative legacy.
The weak games that were scheduled as well...Very few games to make a statement. The schedule should have been stronger ....Maybe this is Monday morning quarterbacking but I think it was a mistake for not recognizing that he BEC would be perceived as weaker and that just doing well in the conference would not guarantee a bid.
Very true
That brings me to think about the schedule going forward
I think we need to get UCONN back for home and home as well as keep the SYR home and home
I am kind of tired of the Duke series. I wouldn't mind doing something with UNC, Kansas, Arizona, or UK instead
I would like to do something with Florida
I think Mullin may do a home and home with a Bay Area school like Cal or Stanford as he has roots there. I don't think he will worry about So Cal schools like Lavin did.
If you are going to do some cupcakes then just keep it local - Wagner, Hofstra, Manhattan (not a cupcake), Fordham, St Francis, or some Jersey or CT schools. We don't need to be playing cupcakes from the midwest for example.
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Agree with you on playing mid majors from the tri-state area. I would like UCONN, Cuse and Duke annually, plus whatever conference tourneys we get in.
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If the marketing plan is to acquire student national and even international don't you need to recruit and schedule nationally?
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If the marketing plan is to acquire student national and even international don't you need to recruit and schedule nationally?
Yes schedule nationally but do it against good competition
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I want Kentucky,
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UConn and Syracuse should definitely be every year games. Then they should look at getting a Kentucky, Arizona, Gonzaga on the schedule. There should also be a marquee Big 10 matchup in there against OSU, Wisky, Michigan or MSU.
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Sanchez year was among the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen. Sampson is in the NBA, Sanchez a decent D league player and Achiewa a more than adequate reserve. Pointer not used properly as this year showed, no one gets that good in a year. With the guard corps the team should have been top 20. Front court depth with CO as well and a great group of guards. TO me that year was the highlight of Lavin's negative legacy.
The weak games that were scheduled as well...Very few games to make a statement. The schedule should have been stronger ....Maybe this is Monday morning quarterbacking but I think it was a mistake for not recognizing that he BEC would be perceived as weaker and that just doing well in the conference would not guarantee a bid.
Very true
That brings me to think about the schedule going forward
I think we need to get UCONN back for home and home as well as keep the SYR home and home
I am kind of tired of the Duke series. I wouldn't mind doing something with UNC, Kansas, Arizona, or UK instead
I would like to do something with Florida
I think Mullin may do a home and home with a Bay Area school like Cal or Stanford as he has roots there. I don't think he will worry about So Cal schools like Lavin did.
If you are going to do some cupcakes then just keep it local - Wagner, Hofstra, Manhattan (not a cupcake), Fordham, St Francis, or some Jersey or CT schools. We don't need to be playing cupcakes from the midwest for example.
I wonder if MD would be a good home and home too.
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I wouldn't mind maryland home and home. Cuse I wanted originally but now I don't care if we don't play them anymore. Uconn I'd rather see rot in that crappy basketball conference of theirs unless we were going to play them on campus instead of throwing a bone to their fans at msg
Kentucky,Florida,Arizona,Duke,North Caroina etc I'd be very much in favor of
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I wouldn't mind maryland home and home. Cuse I wanted originally but now I don't care if we don't play them anymore. Uconn I'd rather see rot in that crappy basketball conference of theirs unless we were going to play them on campus instead of throwing a bone to their fans at msg
Kentucky,Florida,Arizona etc I'd be very much in favor of
True- I'd like on campus for UConn as well.
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Duke, SYR, Big 10 team ( mich?) , fla ( Sec)
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We can spite ourselves. Playing Big time games at the garden is great for us. UCONN is big time. Our out of conference games have to draw fans .
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OOC games that draw fans to the Garden is imperative. That means we definitely need Cuse, Duke, UK, KU types. Those fans travel well. I'd add maybe a Michigan, Louisville, Ohio state. I'm on the fence about uconn because I hate that conference, but they do draw fans. Drawing fans is what pays the bills and we win ultimately when we draw well.
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We have to schedule and play every game possible that opens the second level at the garden.
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UCONN is a rival they need to be on the schedule as does Syracuse
An opponent every year from all of the big % conferences is must
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UConn and Syracuse should definitely be every year games. Then they should look at getting a Kentucky, Arizona, Gonzaga on the schedule. There should also be a marquee Big 10 matchup in there against OSU, Wisky, Michigan or MSU.
I thought i heard that there is a BE/B10 challenge next year, though i could be wrong
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Screw Pukon, Syracuse,Sh.and Rutgers. Who needs them.Why give them any more exposure in the ny area. There are plenty of schools we can replace them with.
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Screw Pukon, Syracuse,Sh.and Rutgers. Who needs them.Why give them any more exposure in the ny area. There are plenty of schools we can replace them with.
I think it's good for St John's to play those teams and to let the local kids we are all fighting for see us beat the crap out of those teams. I would definitely get Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn, et c on the schedule. Probably Pitt. Let the recruits from NJ/NY especially see us succeed against Syracuse, UConn, & Rutgers.
It's also good for basketball traditions we have going. But like, Syracuse, leasing out the cabs in Manhattan to fly orange banners & the whole, "NYC's team" thing...we now have the ability to prevent that shit from happening and to take back our turf & we should not shy away from tough head to heads.
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UConn and Syracuse should definitely be every year games. Then they should look at getting a Kentucky, Arizona, Gonzaga on the schedule. There should also be a marquee Big 10 matchup in there against OSU, Wisky, Michigan or MSU.
I thought i heard that there is a BE/B10 challenge next year, though i could be wrong
I think you're right. I remember seeing a tweet or something about a Villanova/Nebraska matchup as part of the BE/B1G challenge
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OOC games that draw fans to the Garden is imperative. That means we definitely need Cuse, Duke, UK, KU types. Those fans travel well. I'd add maybe a Michigan, Louisville, Ohio state. I'm on the fence about uconn because I hate that conference, but they do draw fans. Drawing fans is what pays the bills and we win ultimately when we draw well.
Louisville turnout for the tournament in Syracuse was a joke. NC State had more fans, Michigan ST fans dominated the tournament.
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Screw Pukon, Syracuse,Sh.and Rutgers. Who needs them.Why give them any more exposure in the ny area. There are plenty of schools we can replace them with.
I think it's good for St John's to play those teams and to let the local kids we are all fighting for see us beat the crap out of those teams. I would definitely get Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn, et c on the schedule. Probably Pitt. Let the recruits from NJ/NY especially see us succeed against Syracuse, UConn, & Rutgers.
It's also good for basketball traditions we have going. But like, Syracuse, leasing out the cabs in Manhattan to fly orange banners & the whole, "NYC's team" thing...we now have the ability to prevent that shit from happening and to take back our turf & we should not shy away from tough head to heads.
we dont need them now. They are replaceable. Let them try and replace us at another "Garden" somewhere.
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uconn to me is on the decline and only offers ticket sales to a bunch of drunk nice persons. give me a big time program like the dukes etc that people nationally want to watch
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uconn to me is on the decline and only offers ticket sales to a bunch of drunk nice persons. give me a big time program like the dukes etc that people nationally want to watch
Um, you're a tough critic. They just won the title 12 months ago. LOL.
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Where did the Sampson thread go?
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More people were at the Syracuse game 2 years ago. Then both games at the garden combined vs Xavier. Or close to it.
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uconn to me is on the decline and only offers ticket sales to a bunch of drunk nice persons. give me a big time program like the dukes etc that people nationally want to watch
and what happened the following year.
Their conference flat out sucks and not sure they could get a tv deal on fios 1 soon
Um, you're a tough critic. They just won the title 12 months ago. LOL.