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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: carmineabbatiello on November 16, 2017, 01:53:44 AM

Title: Cornhuskers prediction thead
Post by: carmineabbatiello on November 16, 2017, 01:53:44 AM
Mutual of Omaha - 78
AIG                          - 75

Size matters.  Nebraska players too large.  Alumni Hall crowd too small.
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Post by: talkbigeast on November 16, 2017, 05:44:21 AM
John's 77
Cornhuskers 68
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Post by: zimzimma16 on November 16, 2017, 07:42:15 AM
Home:  56
Away:  52
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Post by: Poison on November 16, 2017, 07:53:40 AM
New York - 81
The Common Clay of the New World - 70
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Post by: cjfish on November 16, 2017, 09:29:41 AM
73-60 Louie
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Post by: capmaker on November 16, 2017, 10:04:28 AM
https://nypost.com/2017/11/16/st-johns-must-answer-nebraskas-physicality-test/
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Post by: Towerofshred on November 16, 2017, 10:23:27 AM
Slick's team 75
Cornballs 73
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Post by: Celtics11 on November 16, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
Slick's team 75
Cornballs 73

So you've got us winning by a safety. Sounds about right.
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Post by: MCNPA on November 16, 2017, 11:59:56 AM
Nebraska barely shoots 30% from the outside so far.   They have some size which could give us some problems,  but this is one of those teams our shotblocking could help.   I've also read that two of their players, Allen and Gill are unlikely or questionable to play.  They have a very talented backcourt but have been inconsistent.  A game at home, against a solid team like this is one we have to win if we have sights on the tourney.  We need to be beating middling major conference teams like this one. 

SJU 84
Neb 76
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Post by: we are sju on November 16, 2017, 12:24:24 PM
We lose by 7. Get out rebounded by 20. Panic ensues

Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.
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Post by: Marillac on November 16, 2017, 12:55:16 PM
75-63 good guys.
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Post by: QuanMan on November 16, 2017, 02:28:42 PM
82 Johnnies
77 Cornhuskers
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Post by: Poison on November 16, 2017, 02:33:12 PM
We lose by 7. Get out rebounded by 20. Panic ensues

Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

Owens hasn’t deserved to start. He needs to dominate the weak teams we’ve played so far. He could barely keep his balance. I hope he just needs to get into a groove, but so far, in this small sample size, he isn’t looking at all like one of the conference’s best centers.

Title: Re: Cornhuskers prediction thead
Post by: Poison on November 16, 2017, 02:41:29 PM
Nebraska barely shoots 30% from the outside so far.   They have some size which could give us some problems,  but this is one of those teams our shotblocking could help.   I've also read that two of their players, Allen and Gill are unlikely or questionable to play.  They have a very talented backcourt but have been inconsistent.  A game at home, against a solid team like this is one we have to win if we have sights on the tourney.  We need to be beating middling major conference teams like this one. 

SJU 84
Neb 76

If they really are a poor three point shooting team, and that 30% isn’t too small of a sample, we should have a zone ready for them. It will help us to match up with bigger teams, and it will Yakwe something to do that he actually knows how to do. Kid cannot play man.
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Post by: Redy2Rumble on November 16, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Marvin Clark has to play smarter. Too many fouls early on.   Looking for Owen's to make an impact tonight. I think St. John's wins and covers.
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Post by: Poison on November 16, 2017, 02:46:05 PM
Marvin Clark has to play smarter. Too many fouls early on.   Looking for Owen's to make an impact tonight. I think St. John's wins and covers.

He's the key to this season. We need him to not just be good, but to be one of the best big men in Big East.
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Post by: carmineabbatiello on November 16, 2017, 02:57:46 PM
Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

How much of a difference do you think starting TO over Bash would make? 

Coach has the best players identified and all will play a lot.  As of this printing, Owens is averaging 22.5 min. a game and Ahmed 21.5.
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Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on November 16, 2017, 03:21:24 PM
Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

How much of a difference do you think starting TO over Bash would make? 

Coach has the best players identified and all will play a lot.  As of this printing, Owens is averaging 22.5 min. a game and Ahmed 21.5.

If its a small difference isn't it worth it? Rather play the bigger lineup and help clark stay away from early fouls.
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Post by: mjdinkins on November 16, 2017, 03:45:32 PM
Marvin Clark has to play smarter. Too many fouls early on. 

^^^^
This!     
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Post by: we are sju on November 16, 2017, 03:47:26 PM
Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

How much of a difference do you think starting TO over Bash would make? 

Coach has the best players identified and all will play a lot.  As of this printing, Owens is averaging 22.5 min. a game and Ahmed 21.5.

If its a small difference isn't it worth it? Rather play the bigger lineup and help clark stay away from early fouls.

Exactly. Plus it just sucks to start a game getting killed down low. Why look overmatched to start a game? And honestly I think Ahmed is really suited to 6th man role.
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Post by: Foad on November 16, 2017, 05:32:11 PM
Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

How much of a difference do you think starting TO over Bash would make? 

Coach has the best players identified and all will play a lot.  As of this printing, Owens is averaging 22.5 min. a game and Ahmed 21.5.

If its a small difference isn't it worth it? Rather play the bigger lineup and help clark stay away from early fouls.

Exactly. Plus it just sucks to start a game getting killed down low. Why look overmatched to start a game? And honestly I think Ahmed is really suited to 6th man role.

Owens is the only player off the bench who changes the dynamics of the game.
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Post by: Billthetruth on November 16, 2017, 09:28:01 PM
We lose by 7. Get out rebounded by 20. Panic ensues

Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

Don’t quit your day job looking to become a Las Vegas odds maker. Couldn’t have been more wrong on 2 accounts.
Title: Re: Cornhuskers prediction thead
Post by: carmineabbatiello on November 17, 2017, 12:30:57 AM
Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

How much of a difference do you think starting TO over Bash would make? 

Coach has the best players identified and all will play a lot.  As of this printing, Owens is averaging 22.5 min. a game and Ahmed 21.5.

If its a small difference isn't it worth it? Rather play the bigger lineup and help clark stay away from early fouls.

Exactly. Plus it just sucks to start a game getting killed down low. Why look overmatched to start a game? And honestly I think Ahmed is really suited to 6th man role.

I just don't think it makes much of a difference. Might as well start the senior.  It's a good precedent.
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Post by: we are sju on November 17, 2017, 09:29:17 AM
We lose by 7. Get out rebounded by 20. Panic ensues

Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

Don’t quit your day job looking to become a Las Vegas odds maker. Couldn’t have been more wrong on 2 accounts.

Yeah not wrong often but happily take it this time. Simon keeps plays anywhere like this on boards would obviously make us much better. Clark still finding his way needs to grab more rebounds but is in tough spot.   
Title: Re: Cornhuskers prediction thead
Post by: we are sju on November 17, 2017, 09:30:31 AM
Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

How much of a difference do you think starting TO over Bash would make? 

Coach has the best players identified and all will play a lot.  As of this printing, Owens is averaging 22.5 min. a game and Ahmed 21.5.

If its a small difference isn't it worth it? Rather play the bigger lineup and help clark stay away from early fouls.

Exactly. Plus it just sucks to start a game getting killed down low. Why look overmatched to start a game? And honestly I think Ahmed is really suited to 6th man role.

Owens is the only player off the bench who changes the dynamics of the game.

3-0 so don't have to do anything but don't think if you just switched Ahmed for Owens would have same dynamic? Plus would keep Clark from fouling out of every game.
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Post by: Foad on November 17, 2017, 10:55:43 AM
Couple of these early and Mullin will change things up and start Owens with Clark and we will take off from there.

How much of a difference do you think starting TO over Bash would make? 

Coach has the best players identified and all will play a lot.  As of this printing, Owens is averaging 22.5 min. a game and Ahmed 21.5.

If its a small difference isn't it worth it? Rather play the bigger lineup and help clark stay away from early fouls.

Exactly. Plus it just sucks to start a game getting killed down low. Why look overmatched to start a game? And honestly I think Ahmed is really suited to 6th man role.

Owens is the only player off the bench who changes the dynamics of the game.

3-0 so don't have to do anything but don't think if you just switched Ahmed for Owens would have same dynamic? Plus would keep Clark from fouling out of every game.

Owens brings energy off the bench and a defensive presence. Bringing BA off the bench would emphasize his tendency to force things, because he'd think he was supposed to be Vinnie Johnson.