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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: JohnnyJungle on November 17, 2017, 10:34:38 PM

Title: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: JohnnyJungle on November 17, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
- We look like the better team and played like it from start to finish.
- Transfers are just what we needed. Simon is the goods and Clark is efficient. I know some people have been quick to complain about Clark no rebounds or fouls but the guy can catch a ball, dribble a ball, pass a ball, and hasn't missed a FT or 3. Big upgrade!!
- The team is already finding their roles. Owens off the bench comes in seamlessly. Trimble looks very comfy  and has thrived. Yakwe and Amar will have their moments. Even Bash has seemingly adapted.
- Anytime Ponds or Lovett have the ball in their hands I look forward to what they will do next.
- We're undefeated.

Feel free to share your own thoughts
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on November 17, 2017, 11:06:19 PM
-The first 6 fit so well together.
-Simon and Clark have obvious team first attitudes and their leadership seems to be contagious.
-Lovett off the ball is a back breaker for other teams. Him being able to focus more on just scoring is kind of refreshing.
-Ponds trying his best to grab boards and distribute the basketball and flourishing doing so.
-Size/strength off the bench
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Moon Mullen on November 17, 2017, 11:25:06 PM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: TONYD3 on November 18, 2017, 06:59:53 AM
1. We have 3 really good players
2. Secondary players playing a competent role in wnning basketball- Trimble- plays defense can hot open shot- not a gunner>>> Mussini
3. Less 3's
4. It has been 1 game- but we played defense- the bench brought some intensity
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: JayJay on November 18, 2017, 08:01:48 AM
After watching a bevy of TV games last night, we'd better tighten our chin straps
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: JohnnyJungle on November 18, 2017, 09:02:47 AM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.

I'm not sure what's out about him. Skillful versatile big man who can take care of the basketball.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: braintrust on November 18, 2017, 09:56:45 AM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.

I'm not sure what's out about him. Skillful versatile big man who can take care of the basketball.
He gets himself into foul trouble. Hasn't been on the court enough to demonstrate the skills and versatility.

Providence has been on TV a few times now, and they are NBA sized. We beat Nebraska because they were bad and we took advantage of that. But Providence, Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall? That's almost half the Big East schedule where we are waking up sore the next morning.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: SJUhoopNUT on November 18, 2017, 11:12:31 AM
Simon has impressed me the most for a variety of reasons. He's going to be very fun to watch. His jumper will come into question at some point, so he has to continue to improve it. However, every other part of his game is strong.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: redslope on November 18, 2017, 11:17:24 AM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.

I'm not sure what's out about him. Skillful versatile big man who can take care of the basketball.
He gets himself into foul trouble. Hasn't been on the court enough to demonstrate the skills and versatility.

Providence has been on TV a few times now, and they are NBA sized. We beat Nebraska because they were bad and we took advantage of that. But Providence, Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall? That's almost half the Big East schedule where we are waking up sore the next morning.
To use a sports cliché--Clark is this team's "glue guy".  He does not focus on scoring only the little things so that the team wins.  He is not about self but about team.  What we have not had in a while.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: cjfish on November 18, 2017, 11:21:41 AM
Quickness will be the key, others may be bigger but no one will approach our quickness and that will led to some upsets.  Would like to see some pressing in order to make the best use of the team quickness.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: mjdinkins on November 18, 2017, 11:28:24 AM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.

I'm not sure what's out about him. Skillful versatile big man who can take care of the basketball.
He gets himself into foul trouble. Hasn't been on the court enough to demonstrate the skills and versatility.

Providence has been on TV a few times now, and they are NBA sized. We beat Nebraska because they were bad and we took advantage of that. But Providence, Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall? That's almost half the Big East schedule where we are waking up sore the next morning.

If our frontcourt can stay outta foul trouble, and hit the boards and play decently on the defensive end, then we'll be fine.  I doubt Ponds, LoVett, Simon, Ahmed, and Clark all have off games at once, so our bigs need to do the "grunt work" or blue-collar play at a high level, and we'll likely be good to go.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: nudginator59 on November 18, 2017, 11:56:29 AM
-The fact of wait until next year, might finally be the year that real progress can happen...
-The Nebraska gam was fun to watch, their style of play can attract more attention to the team and the Big East
-If CA can make that much noise at 80% full, the experience will be that much better %100 full (from what I could tell watching on TV)
-For the first time in a long time the Administration, AD, coaching staff, all seem to be fully engaged and on the  same page, which bolds well for the future.
-Trust the process looks like more then a motto.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: SJUFAN on November 18, 2017, 12:07:36 PM
I like that i saw progress, not just over the first 3 games, but Mullin's first 3 years. I was concerned with our defense, but i like the activity i saw in the last game. We are showing improvement in both talent level and execution. We still lack depth and size on the inside and it may come back to haunt us later in the year but i like the direction the program appears to be heading in. Plus the AD has improving facilities on his agenda which is a good thing. 
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Lycidas on November 18, 2017, 12:11:51 PM
Couldn't have done much better for our first 3 games. The Rutgers game taught us some valuable lessons about playing real defense, focusing on team rebounding, and playing a full 40 minutes. There will still be bumps along the way, but we have an elite backcourt, team speed, and athleticism that will make us a tough matchup for many teams. Our offense is balanced and team centered, and we did fine on a night when we didn't shoot well from deep. We will have nights where we run people out of the gym. A definite improvement from last year in overall talent and approach to the game. It's early,, but there are good signs. Should be a fun year.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: carmineabbatiello on November 18, 2017, 03:27:32 PM
The W's.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Tha Kid on November 18, 2017, 03:54:38 PM
If we can stay healthy we will at least be a bubble team. 
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Poison on November 18, 2017, 03:55:05 PM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.

I'm not sure what's out about him. Skillful versatile big man who can take care of the basketball.
He gets himself into foul trouble. Hasn't been on the court enough to demonstrate the skills and versatility.

Providence has been on TV a few times now, and they are NBA sized. We beat Nebraska because they were bad and we took advantage of that. But Providence, Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall? That's almost half the Big East schedule where we are waking up sore the next morning.
To use a sports cliché--Clark is this team's "glue guy".  He does not focus on scoring only the little things so that the team wins.  He is not about self but about team.  What we have not had in a while.

Simon is the glue guy. Not Clark. Clark hasn’t played enough to be a glue guy.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: ras on November 18, 2017, 04:44:50 PM
The defense against Nebraska looked liked night and day compared to last year. Rebounding also improved. Looks like kids are buying into Mullins system and Mullin maybe a better coach than many think. But, can’t get too excited over 1 game. Nexts weeks tourney will tell a lot. I have said previously Simon is the glue guy. Does a lot of things well and is unselfish.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: JohnnyJungle on November 18, 2017, 04:51:28 PM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.

I'm not sure what's out about him. Skillful versatile big man who can take care of the basketball.
He gets himself into foul trouble. Hasn't been on the court enough to demonstrate the skills and versatility.

Providence has been on TV a few times now, and they are NBA sized. We beat Nebraska because they were bad and we took advantage of that. But Providence, Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall? That's almost half the Big East schedule where we are waking up sore the next morning.

His first 3 games in over a year of action I'd expect some fouls. I'm not sweating it as I can see the skill and composure beyond the fouls.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on November 18, 2017, 05:48:48 PM
I  think your spot on except for Clark. jury's still out.

I'm not sure what's out about him. Skillful versatile big man who can take care of the basketball.
He gets himself into foul trouble. Hasn't been on the court enough to demonstrate the skills and versatility.

Providence has been on TV a few times now, and they are NBA sized. We beat Nebraska because they were bad and we took advantage of that. But Providence, Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall? That's almost half the Big East schedule where we are waking up sore the next morning.

His first 3 games in over a year of action I'd expect some fouls. I'm not sweating it as I can see the skill and composure beyond the fouls.

We'd be lost without him.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Marillac on November 18, 2017, 05:52:11 PM
Let's table the celebration for a week.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Poison on November 18, 2017, 06:01:09 PM
In the last game in particular there were a lot of positives.

- Simon's energy on defense and rebounding were impressive.
- Ponds finds ways to score when his three isn't falling - he's a great scorer
- Yakwe may have found his mojo. Let's hope he has, because we're not dancing without 15/16 Kassoum Yakwe.
- Owens is rebounding and blocking shots
- Could have beaten Nebraska by 45 points if we fouled less and blew fewer lay ups.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Poison on November 18, 2017, 06:01:52 PM
Let'a table the celebration for a week.

Why you hatin' Marillac?
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: TONYD3 on November 18, 2017, 06:14:11 PM
Let'a table the celebration for a week.
Agree. I am very happy. Coach had the boys playing well. 3 big games and a ridiculous scimmage coming .
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Celtics11 on November 18, 2017, 07:46:32 PM
Glad to have Marvin Clark on the team, like him as a player.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: JohnnyJungle on November 18, 2017, 11:14:02 PM
Let's table the celebration for a week.

Not really a celebration simply just discussion.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: JayJay on November 19, 2017, 09:41:20 AM
Saturday result: OR St. 89, LB St. 81.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Poison on November 19, 2017, 11:07:59 AM
Let's table the celebration for a week.

Not really a celebration simply just discussion.

Exactly, we all know that Nebraska isnt Michigan State, but that doesn’t mean we can’t be happy with a performance that exceeded our expectations. There have been so few reasons to be happy as a fan, I will enjoy this until we play Oregon State, and we’re gonna beat the snot outa them, too.

To quote our HOF coach, “I can only coach one team”
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Marillac on November 19, 2017, 04:06:53 PM
Let's table the celebration for a week.

Not really a celebration simply just discussion.
This is just weird timing. We don't know what this team is yet and we have four games in seven days, so it's not like we have to wait long to find out.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: survivedc on November 19, 2017, 10:05:41 PM
Let's table the celebration for a week.

Not really a celebration simply just discussion.
This is just weird timing. We don't know what this team is yet and we have four games in seven days, so it's not like we have to wait long to find out.

Some people like to get excited about their team after a seven month layoff knowing there are plenty of areas that need work.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on November 19, 2017, 10:31:21 PM
It's impossible for some people to ever be happy
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Marillac on November 19, 2017, 11:08:35 PM
It's impossible for some people to ever be happy

Deal in extremes much?
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: Marillac on November 19, 2017, 11:13:00 PM
Let's table the celebration for a week.

Not really a celebration simply just discussion.
This is just weird timing. We don't know what this team is yet and we have four games in seven days, so it's not like we have to wait long to find out.

Some people like to get excited about their team after a seven month layoff knowing there are plenty of areas that need work.

I get that. I hope there will be a time or two this season I post about possibly being ranked if we beat the next opponent, but I just don't understand this thread. We don't even have an identity yet. We've seen three very different games already. I don't even know what we are yet, so I find it very hard to even offer an opinion on what we might become let alone what we are already.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: carmineabbatiello on November 19, 2017, 11:46:20 PM
I went to all three. 

Personally,  my support has been off the charts thus far.  Please, come join me.  This entertaining group and young coach deserve it.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: erickthered on November 20, 2017, 08:55:56 AM
I would consider us a fast paced guard oriented team, that needs to hit its threes. That’s obvious.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: cjfish on November 20, 2017, 11:04:32 AM
Let's table the celebration for a week.

Not really a celebration simply just discussion.
This is just weird timing. We don't know what this team is yet and we have four games in seven days, so it's not like we have to wait long to find out.

Some people like to get excited about their team after a seven month layoff knowing there are plenty of areas that need work.

I get that. I hope there will be a time or two this season I post about possibly being ranked if we beat the next opponent, but I just don't understand this thread. We don't even have an identity yet. We've seen three very different games already. I don't even know what we are yet, so I find it very hard to even offer an opinion on what we might become let alone what we are already.








I think it is obvious what we are......a team that will live or die with great guard play and who can potentially be very good if the questionable front line delivers at even an average level.     Defense has improved dramatically so this is  hopefully no longer a major issue.
Title: Re: What I like about the first 3 games
Post by: ras on November 20, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
Let's table the celebration for a week.

Not really a celebration simply just discussion.
This is just weird timing. We don't know what this team is yet and we have four games in seven days, so it's not like we have to wait long to find out.

Some people like to get excited about their team after a seven month layoff knowing there are plenty of areas that need work.

I get that. I hope there will be a time or two this season I post about possibly being ranked if we beat the next opponent, but I just don't understand this thread. We don't even have an identity yet. We've seen three very different games already. I don't even know what we are yet, so I find it very hard to even offer an opinion on what we might become let alone what we are already.
Like Dave said we discuss every game, and posters give opinions. Its still early. But, IMO against a high major opponent, we looked more cohesive, played much better D, rebounded better and looked to find the open man, playing more unselfish bb. No poster has a crystal ball, so we will have to let the season play out see what happens.