6th Man of St. John's Basketball

St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: QuanMan on January 16, 2018, 03:10:43 PM

Title: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: QuanMan on January 16, 2018, 03:10:43 PM
Expected matchups:

Bash/Bluiett
JSimon/Macura
Shamorie/Goodin
Tariq/Kanter
Marv/Marshall

Marshall has been playing very well lately, O'Mara is a tough matchup against Tariq once he comes off the bench, need Yakwe's tough defense to continue.

Students back on campus, 730 Central tip time agreeable for working fans, it'll be a packed house. Going to take a herculean effort to overcome this one. I expect the team to play their hearts out once again.
 
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Lycidas on January 16, 2018, 03:49:44 PM
I expect Owens, Clark, and Simon to each have 2 fouls before they take their sweats off.  Unlike MSG, other teams' home courts actually give them an edge in the calls.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 16, 2018, 09:57:32 PM
Chances O'mara hits ten points? Shade under a hundred.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: paultzman on January 17, 2018, 11:03:08 AM
12 point dogs. After being competitive v Nova, I think we are due to be blown out. Xavier is so tough on the interior & those guys are good at kicking ball out for open 3s when doubled.  Tough environment too.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 11:08:37 AM
Game did not even warrant a blurb in the printed edition of the NY Post today.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: rdstr25 on January 17, 2018, 11:09:00 AM
I agree...  This game will be over by the 10 minute mark of the first half.  I also think this will be the lowest point of the season because we will not be competitive for the first time.  However, with that being said, this game will be spring board for win against Gtown. 

Xavier 93
SJU 71
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: cjfish on January 17, 2018, 11:09:22 AM
This team seems incapable of two contradictory things, being blown out and winning.  Other than De Paul the games have been reasonably close.  The team is like a golfer who cant make the crucial 6 footer.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
SJU made Maric look like Sabonis. More of the same tonight as Kanter, OMeara and Jones will have their way. X men by a lot.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: paultzman on January 17, 2018, 11:18:17 AM
This team seems incapable of two contradictory things, being blown out and winning.  Other than De Paul the games have been reasonably close.  The team is like a golfer who cant make the crucial 6 footer.

And short several clubs in the bag
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 11:20:53 AM
This team seems incapable of two contradictory things, being blown out and winning.  Other than De Paul the games have been reasonably close.  The team is like a golfer who cant make the crucial 6 footer.
This is because their is talent on the roster. We have high division 1 athletes. This isn’t Johnny Flynn beating up weaker players.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 12:39:45 PM
12 point dogs. After being competitive v Nova, I think we are due to be blown out. Xavier is so tough on the interior & those guys are good at kicking ball out for open 3s when doubled.  Tough environment too.
What a program! We alternate between competitive losses and blow out losses! Praise the lord!
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redslope on January 17, 2018, 12:49:29 PM
Only chance of not losing tonight is if we got snowed in at LAG.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 12:51:12 PM
Game did not even warrant a blurb in the printed edition of the NY Post today.

Maybe the staff isn't talking to Zach...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 12:54:52 PM
Only chance of not losing tonight is if we got snowed in at LAG.
Too bad there are no ties in college basketball at least we could aspire to that.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: sjulaw1991 on January 17, 2018, 01:40:54 PM
macura baits someone (Tariq ?) into a near fight.  Pat Driscol refing  charges SJU with 3 fouls on the play - a personal, a tech and a tech on the bench.  This springboards X to a 20 point victory.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
macura baits someone (Tariq ?) into a near fight.  Pat Driscol refing  charges SJU with 3 fouls on the play - a personal, a tech and a tech on the bench.  This springboards X to a 20 point victory.
That's what always beats us even in the 40 point blow outs, that damn refereeing.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
Good luck guys. Hopefully we get a little enjoyment
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 17, 2018, 08:41:52 PM
#$%^ING REF SHOW 20 SECONDS INTO THE GAME LOLOLOL
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 08:43:30 PM
On what team would Owens be shooting 3’s?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Can’t compete taking shots like that.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 08:48:35 PM
Simon bonehead play of the game 5 seconds in
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 08:51:56 PM
This channel not high def?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 08:52:56 PM
Clark wtf was that
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 08:53:58 PM
This channel not high def?
It sucks on Verizon
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
Ahmed is a stupid man
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 08:55:10 PM
This channel not high def?
It sucks on Verizon

Ya same
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 08:55:25 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 08:56:18 PM
What is Ahmed doing grabbing Macura when SJU has the ball going the other way.

Why would you wrap your arm around him when you have the ball going the other way that is just so stupid....
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 08:57:04 PM
Lets just play basketball for fcks sake
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 08:57:38 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 08:58:14 PM
Another 3
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 17, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
This channel not high def?
It sucks on Verizon

Ya same

CBS is worth like billions of dollars and they have these cameras is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 08:59:04 PM
This season sucks. I like simon
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
What is Ahmed doing grabbing Macura when SJU has the ball going the other way.

Why would you wrap your arm around him when you have the ball going the other way that is just so stupid....

Wow they took it away...as Lappas said how can you call a foul, check the monitor for a flagrant, and take away the foul...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 09:00:54 PM
This channel not high def?
It sucks on Verizon

Ya same

CBS is worth like billions of dollars and they have these cameras is a disgrace.

Coming in fine here.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 09:01:34 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams
Thought this was suppossed to be one of our better shooting teams. Oh that's right they're tired. 20 year olds tired in first 5 minutes of game. Sometimes I think some of you think our players are as old as our fans in the AARP and older age range.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 09:01:46 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:05:13 PM
Trimble!
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:08:10 PM
Double post up at the foul line ?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: talkbigeast on January 17, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
One time just once can Yawke just handle a pass
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:09:36 PM
Our guys are playing stupid. But they are playing hard.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 09:09:51 PM
My favorite thing is the few times we do run an offensive set that kind of works, it's for Yakwe
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:10:19 PM
My favorite thing is the few times we do run an offensive set that kind of works, it's for Yakwe
That made me laugh
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:13:03 PM
I like Kanters game
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
Yakwe forcing Kanter to go left. Ummm
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 09:15:31 PM
Great hands by Yakwe on that rebound. Maybe he can play TE in the NFL after his college hoops career is over ala Antonio Gates.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:16:06 PM
Call timeout. And get Ponds back in
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:16:28 PM
Trimble my boy
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 09:17:00 PM
Trimble showing his value.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 09:17:32 PM
Xavier unconscious from 3 so far.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:17:54 PM
Call timeout. And get Ponds back in
Yeah . If he needs a break . Call a time out. Our coach should go to a middle school coaching clinic
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:17:58 PM
Trimble showing his value.

Improving every game. Give him more minutes
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 09:18:17 PM
AliB in. Look for lead to lengthen for X by about ten points by halftime.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 09:19:07 PM
Trimble showing his value.
You mean our D is unconscious?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:19:43 PM
Trimble showing his value.

Improving every game. Give him more minutes
I like him. Hope he stays.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 17, 2018, 09:20:46 PM
Alibegovic is a hole
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:21:40 PM
Clark last guy back on d every time. Needs to get in better shape
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 09:23:39 PM
Trimble showing his value.
You mean our D is unconscious?

Ha! that too.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:23:54 PM
"That's a tough one for a guy shooting 19%"
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:24:41 PM
"That's a tough one for a guy shooting 19%"
Coach don’t tell anybody NO
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:25:34 PM
Keep driving the ball Ponds, they can't stay in front
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:27:09 PM
Let's see what we run out of a timeout here
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 09:28:08 PM
Keep driving the ball Ponds, they can't stay in front

There it is. All game, every game he should do that.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
AYFKM!!??
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:29:46 PM
Why no timeout and set a play for that last possession. Instead a falling 3 pointer
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:31:18 PM
Why no timeout and set a play for that last possession. Instead a falling 3 pointer
I wouldn’t have wasted 2nd timeout. Mullin needs the timeouts to give rest. Which he won’t do.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Lycidas on January 17, 2018, 09:31:36 PM
Alibegovix cant get into any game you have an intention of winning. Don't care how thin our bench is.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 09:32:40 PM
This is the main place the staff loses my confidence. This team allows opponents to shoot 37% from 3. That is 266th out of 351 teams in the country. They allow opponents to shoot 43.6% from 2. That is 15th best in the country. Yet on defense they still overhelp off shooters and close out soft allowing them to shoot instead of making them put it on the floor and go past them. How many #$%^ing teams have to light us up from 3 for this to change?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:32:58 PM
Why no timeout and set a play for that last possession. Instead a falling 3 pointer
I wouldn’t have wasted 2nd timeout. Mullin needs the timeouts to give rest. Which he won’t do.

No need for rest after down 10+
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:33:42 PM
This is the main place the staff loses my confidence. This team allows opponents to shoot 37% from 3. That is 266th out of 351 teams in the country. They allow opponents to shoot 43.6% from 2. That is 15th best in the country. Yet on defense they still overhelp off shooters and close out soft allowing them to shoot instead of making them put it on the floor and go past them. How many #$%^ing teams have to light us up from 3 for this to change?

All of them
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:34:05 PM
Does anyone on the staff advise Mullin during the game?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 09:34:39 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 09:34:40 PM
At some point it's not just "oh pity us because teams shoot the lights out against us". It's not an accident or dumb luck. You give good shooters open shots they will make them
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:35:54 PM
Does anyone on the staff advise Mullin during the game?
Not even being a dxck, how can they ? None of them no what they are doing. We hit some shots. This game is about to get ugly.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 09:37:59 PM
What is Ponds doing letting the ball roll up the court with the clock running at the end of the half?

Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:38:00 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?

Simon might start on DePaul and Georgetown, other than that, I don't see it. He's our 2nd best player
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: rdstr25 on January 17, 2018, 09:38:09 PM
Our 3 point defense just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 09:41:13 PM
What is Ponds doing letting the ball roll up the court with the clock running at the end of the half?



Why does it matter? The inbounder rolled it and he let it go for two seconds at a pretty good speed.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 09:43:42 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?

Simon bang your wife or something?
Does anyone on the staff advise Mullin during the game?
Not even being a dxck, how can they ? None of them no what they are doing. We hit some shots. This game is about to get ugly.

Does anyone on the staff advise Mullin during the game?
Not even being a dxck,

Hmm, yes you are, pretty much every post actually.
team sucks
mullin sucks
asst coaches suck
university sucks
fans suck
etc, etc
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
What is Ponds doing letting the ball roll up the court with the clock running at the end of the half?



Why does it matter? The inbounder rolled it and he let it go for two seconds at a pretty good speed.

Is this a joke?  You cant be that stupid...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 09:48:50 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?

Simon might start on DePaul and Georgetown, other than that, I don't see it. He's our 2nd best player

"Our"....ok
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:50:13 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?

Simon might start on DePaul and Georgetown, other than that, I don't see it. He's our 2nd best player

"Our"....ok

Snore.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?

I guess you missed "just about." Also, you realize there are 5 starters on each team, right?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
What is Ponds doing letting the ball roll up the court with the clock running at the end of the half?



Why does it matter? The inbounder rolled it and he let it go for two seconds at a pretty good speed.

Is this a joke?  You cant be that stupid...
Never underestimate Marillac.  :)
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:52:12 PM
Ponds hit a 3
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 09:52:38 PM
The one time they miss an open 3 and you don't get the rebound....
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 09:53:09 PM
Can't trade baskets....
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: SJUhoopNUT on January 17, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Eventually they are going to have to get stops.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:54:00 PM
Simon has been good. If you like anything. It has to be him . Their are holes in his game. But he plays hard every game
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
What is Ponds doing letting the ball roll up the court with the clock running at the end of the half?



Why does it matter? The inbounder rolled it and he let it go for two seconds at a pretty good speed.

Is this a joke?  You cant be that stupid...

Likewise nerd. Good call like your foul on Ponds in the Nova game. Watch it again...it had literally no effect on the play. They inbounded at 11 seconds and Ponds was at the three point line with six on the clock.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Macura having an off night
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 09:57:23 PM
Maybe we have a game?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 09:58:47 PM
Maybe we have a game?

We always have a game.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 09:58:59 PM
What is Ponds doing letting the ball roll up the court with the clock running at the end of the half?



Why does it matter? The inbounder rolled it and he let it go for two seconds at a pretty good speed.

Is this a joke?  You cant be that stupid...

Likewise nerd. Good call like your foul on Ponds in the Nova game. Watch it again...it had literally no effect on the play. They inbounded at 11 seconds and Ponds was at the three point line with six on the clock.

You're a nice person, I will be nice again tomorrow, you will still be stupid...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 09:59:19 PM
They are playing hard....no doubt.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:00:37 PM
They can't get the key stop...everytime...3
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 10:00:38 PM
Why the hell did Ponds help off Macura to help on a guy that didnt even have the ball?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
Clark and Ahmed 1 rebound between them
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: RedStormNC on January 17, 2018, 10:02:27 PM
Game did not even warrant a blurb in the printed edition of the NY Post today.

Maybe the staff isn't talking to Zach...

No game tweets from him...wonder if something going on or just coincidence
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:02:52 PM
Nice midrange game from Marv tonight
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:03:04 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:03:11 PM
Wow they have not missed a shot in the 2nd half...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:03:27 PM
Great pass Ponds
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:03:56 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:04:35 PM
That's a walk wtf
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 10:04:43 PM
Clark and Ahmed 1 rebound between them
Bruise Brothers. Too bad they are the ones with the bruises.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:05:02 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Tell Ponds to play some defense
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:05:24 PM
Would someone please set a legit screen for Pinds
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:05:30 PM
Macura...killing SJU...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
Would someone please set a legit screen for Pinds

Whose Pinds???
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:06:36 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 10:07:00 PM
See what happens when you avoid taking bad shots early in the shot clock and look to attack the rim first. Best shot selection from this team in a while. Have to keep it up. But defend the 3 point line just once
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 10:07:21 PM
Would someone please set a legit screen for Pinds

Whose Pinds???
IDK but I hope he is a better 3 point shooter than Ponds.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:07:52 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.

Great observation, should be benched
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
Gotta hit these 2 Pinds
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 17, 2018, 10:09:07 PM
Ponds could take it to the rim every play and something good would happen. They should have realized that after Saturday
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:09:24 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.
You give our coach every benefit of the doubt. Seem very harsh on this kid. He has played well this season. He deserves better
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:09:26 PM
Would someone please set a legit screen for Pinds

Whose Pinds???

Whose is possessive. You should have written "who is" or "who's." This is less than 20 minutes after calling someone else stupid.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:10:29 PM
Ponds is getting to the lane at will. He's too good. Two man game with Clark.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:10:43 PM
That's where Simon is at his best in the pick n roll.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:12:22 PM
Ponds got to finish that.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
Ponds is getting to the lane at will. He's too good. Two man game with Clark.

Two missed layups by Ponds
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:12:32 PM
Unacceptable not getting back on D. Get in better shape
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:12:37 PM
How about a timeout
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:13:03 PM
Ponds short arming shots. Looks tired.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:13:47 PM
Their should be no doubt their is talent on this team.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:14:14 PM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TheVig on January 17, 2018, 10:14:17 PM
How about a timeout
One possession too late
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
Their should be no doubt their is talent on this team.

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/grammar/usage-and-style/frequently-confused-words/v/there-their-theyre-final
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: RedmenNYC on January 17, 2018, 10:14:45 PM
Unacceptable not getting back on D. Get in better shape

Yeah right; with virtually every player weighs less 200 lbs, they are really out of shape.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:14:47 PM
Ponds short arming shots. Looks tired.

Gassed...no doubt...needed that TO
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:15:24 PM
How about a timeout
One possession too late
He ha s 2 left. Better use them wisely
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:16:40 PM
Out of control
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:16:43 PM
Ponds is getting to the lane at will. He's too good. Two man game with Clark.

Two missed layups by Ponds

He'was fouled on the second. He's playing a near perfect second half. They can't keep him out of the lane.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:17:17 PM
The ref was looking right at the ball go off Kanter.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:18:27 PM
2nd chance points killing us. Difference in the game. Lack of rebounding.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:18:52 PM
Ballgame...man...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:19:12 PM
Unacceptable not getting back on D. Get in better shape

Yeah right; with virtually every player weighs less 200 lbs, they are really out of shape.

Who said anything about weight?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:19:12 PM
Ponds looks a little fatigued. Mullin should give him a quick breather here til the under 4 timeout
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:19:25 PM
The ref was looking right at the ball go off Kanter.

Teribble call.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:19:36 PM
The ref was looking right at the ball go off Kanter.

Unbelievable he missed that...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 10:20:10 PM
The ref was looking right at the ball go off Kanter.

Teribble call.
Spanish?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: tominsimsbury on January 17, 2018, 10:20:42 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?

Simon might start on DePaul and Georgetown, other than that, I don't see it. He's our 2nd best player

"Our"....ok

Snore.

http://www.dodge-dart.org/forum/attachments/off-topic-forum/57881d1451553231-holiday-thread-acosby.jpg
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:22:27 PM
Yeah it's over now...and how do lose Kanter so easily...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:22:37 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:23:38 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 
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Seems very negative
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
Exact same thing happened at Creighton...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2018, 10:23:56 PM
This team has too much talent to suck this bad. Coaching.

I disagree. 1 player that would start on most other Big East teams

Ponds, Simon, Owens with better coaching would start for just about every BE team. Depth, and complete lack of strategy/coaching/discipline is why they are so bad.

Who out of Bluiit, Kelan Martin, Mikal Bridges, Foster, Desi Rodriguez, and Alpha Diallo do you sit for Simon?

Simon might start on DePaul and Georgetown, other than that, I don't see it. He's our 2nd best player

"Our"....ok

Snore.

http://www.dodge-dart.org/forum/attachments/off-topic-forum/57881d1451553231-holiday-thread-acosby.jpg

Weird to be posting Cosby memes
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:24:26 PM
Ponds pushes off all the time on the offensive end, especially when he has the ball. Surprised it took them so long to call it
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: rdstr25 on January 17, 2018, 10:24:59 PM
Has ponds become a black hole?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:25:00 PM
Simon on the bus already?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:25:07 PM
It's over...again good effort haven't quit but 0-7.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:26:04 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 

Are you insane? Where are the rebounds? The whole defense goes with Ponds! Those are tailor made out backs.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 10:26:19 PM
If you have watched Simon play and think he'd only start on 3 BE teams, you're not a very educated basketball fan. SJU has a depth and coaching problem. And a lot of bad luck. That's why they are 0-7.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:26:30 PM
First Nova, now Xavier. Similar type of games. The team stays relatively close but never really has a shot to win. 
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: SJUhoopNUT on January 17, 2018, 10:26:57 PM
Nice effort. However one team makes winning plays, and one team doesn't. Need to convert layups and need to do little things.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:27:31 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 

Are you insane? Where are the rebounds? The whole defense goes with Ponds! Those are tailor made out backs.

Steakhouse...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:28:44 PM
If you have watched Simon play and think he'd only start on 3 BE teams, you're not a very educated basketball fan. SJU has a depth and coaching problem. And a lot of bad luck. That's why they are 0-7.
Agree
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:28:44 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 

Are you insane? Where are the rebounds? The whole defense goes with Ponds! Those are tailor made out backs.

Steakhouse...

Ok whose.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:28:56 PM
Where the fck is Owens on the boards? Always in the wrong place
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2018, 10:29:03 PM
Nice effort. However one team makes winning plays, and one team doesn't. Need to convert layups and need to do little things.

No one should be talking about effort.  They're 0-7.  Who cares.  Win even a single game, this is a joke.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:29:06 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 

Are you insane? Where are the rebounds? The whole defense goes with Ponds! Those are tailor made out backs.

LMAO, so can't blame Ponds for shooting less than 30% from field because he's creating offensive rebound opportunities.  You so crazy!!!
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:29:07 PM
Those offensive rebounds by Xavier and easy putbacks every time! Killers!
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:29:28 PM
First Nova, now Xavier. Similar type of games. The team stays relatively close but never really has a shot to win. 

Disagree.  They trailed the entire 2nd half against  Nova.

Here they actually had the lead and the ball couple of times in the 2nd half...

This was more Creighton...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Gray Chudney on January 17, 2018, 10:29:30 PM
Lovett doesn’t quit and we win this game.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
These refs pay no mind to Mullin
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Johnny23 on January 17, 2018, 10:31:28 PM
First Nova, now Xavier. Similar type of games. The team stays relatively close but never really has a shot to win. 

Disagree.  They trailed the entire 2nd half against  Nova.

Here they actually had the lead and the ball couple of times in the 2nd half...

This was more Creighton...

Fair enough. Creighton the best comparison. These offensive droughts in crunch time are painful.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:31:33 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 

Are you insane? Where are the rebounds? The whole defense goes with Ponds! Those are tailor made out backs.

LMAO, so can't blame Ponds for shooting less than 30% from field because he's creating offensive rebound opportunities.  You so crazy!!!

You don't understand once he makes a ridiculous assertion he has to go to great lengths to prove he was right all along...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:31:51 PM
Lovett doesn’t quit and we win this game.

Or WE have 1 of either Mussini or Ellison
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 10:32:16 PM
Lovett doesn’t quit and we win this game.

Oh, how the season might look right now if he didn't quit..
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 10:32:48 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 

Are you insane? Where are the rebounds? The whole defense goes with Ponds! Those are tailor made out backs.

LMAO, so can't blame Ponds for shooting less than 30% from field because he's creating offensive rebound opportunities.  You so crazy!!!

You don't understand once he makes a ridiculous assertion he has to go to great lengths to prove he was right all along...
That you are a pussy that has never played organized sports?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
If they give same effort on Saturday they will beat Georgetown...no doubt.

If they don't beat Georgetown then 1-17 is in play...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
Ahmed played tonight?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:35:17 PM
Ponds killing us.  Can't keep blowing layups 5-17 from the field. 

Are you insane? Where are the rebounds? The whole defense goes with Ponds! Those are tailor made out backs.

LMAO, so can't blame Ponds for shooting less than 30% from field because he's creating offensive rebound opportunities.  You so crazy!!!

You don't understand once he makes a ridiculous assertion he has to go to great lengths to prove he was right all along...
That you are a pussy that has never played organized sports?

Right...youre the man of this board...the best...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:35:47 PM
These refs pay no mind to Mullin
I sit behind the bench most games . Mullin is relentless with the refs. He gets crazy respect because of who he is. He doesn’t work them . He annoys them . They turn him off.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 10:36:12 PM
Lovett doesn’t quit and we win this game.

Or WE have 1 of either Mussini or Ellison

Both would've been huge this season.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: johnnies11 on January 17, 2018, 10:36:48 PM
Mullin really needs to do a better job when it comes to substitutions. Need to buy a few minutes for each kid. Use the media timeouts as your friend. Sit a guy like Shamorie right before it as it gives him an extended rest. Can't just leave the same 5 in for the whole game, no matter how well they're playing. When depth is in an issue, have to play the bench guys in 2-4 minute spurts. Team was gassed with 7 minutes left...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: redstorm212 on January 17, 2018, 10:37:31 PM
If they give same effort on Saturday they will beat Georgetown...no doubt.

If they don't beat Georgetown then 1-17 is in play...

No doubt? No. This team is cursed. I fully expect to lose to GTown regardless of the effort.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: rdstr25 on January 17, 2018, 10:37:50 PM
Good effort, unfortunately bad teams find ways to lose. They play well on offense but can’t stop the 3.   Team will get some wins, but gonna be tough.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:38:02 PM
Mullin really needs to do a better job when it comes to substitutions. Need to buy a few minutes for each kid. Use the media timeouts as your friend. Sit a guy like Shamorie right before it as it gives him an extended rest. Can't just leave the same 5 in for the whole game, no matter how well they're playing. When depth is in an issue, have to play the bench guys in 2-4 minute spurts. Team was gassed with 7 minutes left...

This is where the bench coaches need to help. They bring nothing to the table
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: goredmen on January 17, 2018, 10:38:33 PM
Well at least we covered
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:39:03 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

How did this work out?
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:39:54 PM
Well at least we covered
U bet us? U crazy
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 17, 2018, 10:39:59 PM
Clark and Ahmed combine for 3 rebounds
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:40:08 PM
Mullin really needs to do a better job when it comes to substitutions. Need to buy a few minutes for each kid. Use the media timeouts as your friend. Sit a guy like Shamorie right before it as it gives him an extended rest. Can't just leave the same 5 in for the whole game, no matter how well they're playing. When depth is in an issue, have to play the bench guys in 2-4 minute spurts. Team was gassed with 7 minutes left...

Disagree a little.  He gets killed everytime he puts in Ali and then when they are gassed we complain.  Can't have it both ways...

Killer is Ahmed is so up and down and he can't trust Yakwe...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: fordham96 on January 17, 2018, 10:40:56 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

How did this work out?

Worked out like a pu**y...
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:41:21 PM
Mullin really needs to do a better job when it comes to substitutions. Need to buy a few minutes for each kid. Use the media timeouts as your friend. Sit a guy like Shamorie right before it as it gives him an extended rest. Can't just leave the same 5 in for the whole game, no matter how well they're playing. When depth is in an issue, have to play the bench guys in 2-4 minute spurts. Team was gassed with 7 minutes left...

Disagree a little.  He gets killed everytime he puts in Ali and then when they are gassed we complain.  Can't have it both ways...

Killer is Ahmed is so up and down and he can't trust Yakwe...
Yakwe isn’t terrible. He could be hidden for a few minutes
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 10:43:12 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.
You have gone insane!!!!!!
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.

"Reckless" Simon - 28pts / 9reb /6ast / 3stl / 2to
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:45:10 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.
You have gone insane!!!!!!
We agree
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: johnnies11 on January 17, 2018, 10:48:46 PM
Mullin really needs to do a better job when it comes to substitutions. Need to buy a few minutes for each kid. Use the media timeouts as your friend. Sit a guy like Shamorie right before it as it gives him an extended rest. Can't just leave the same 5 in for the whole game, no matter how well they're playing. When depth is in an issue, have to play the bench guys in 2-4 minute spurts. Team was gassed with 7 minutes left...

Disagree a little.  He gets killed everytime he puts in Ali and then when they are gassed we complain.  Can't have it both ways...

Killer is Ahmed is so up and down and he can't trust Yakwe...
Yakwe isn’t terrible. He could be hidden for a few minutes

Exactly. I understand why he wouldn't want to put Amar out there. But a game like tonight (where no one was really in foul trouble), you could have bought a few minutes from Yakwe. Agree that Ahmed being inconsistent is a killer though.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 10:50:25 PM
Depth and another shooter hurt us here. Lovett would have been nice this game. Great effort against a good team.
I know he is on the perimeter on offense but you think Clark could get 3 or 4 rebounds on accident.
Ahmed when bad is a disaster.
Ponds bad night wasn't because of his shooting problems as he hit a better % than he normally does. Those are tough drives and at his frame sometimes going to struggle. Also thought he got hit a few times. He is going to have to knock down some shots because they are playing off him now.
I know he had a career game shooting and turnover prone but as I have said all year Simon is really fun to watch. What we all wanted Reggie Jessie and Ellison to be.

Keep hanging close and losing takes a toll, but I think we beat Gtown.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Poison on January 17, 2018, 10:53:18 PM
8-35
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Pete88 on January 17, 2018, 10:56:18 PM
Guess not much they can do with what they have but rebounding and 3 point defense killing this team.

Out rebounded 39-21
3-point shooting defense 54% (14 treys)

Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 17, 2018, 10:56:50 PM
8-35
Their were some positives. The guys played hard. Still we took bad shots. Gave up easy shots. And didn’t rebound. This looked like norms boys playing hard and losing, like always.
8-35, 9 in a row
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: section3 on January 17, 2018, 10:59:50 PM
Ponds could take it to the rim every play and something good would happen. They should have realized that after Saturday
It’s why we shouldn’t have these droughts that kill us. Mullin needs to recognize the drought and call for drives. All of our guys are capable of drawing fouls. Get to the line. Drought breaker
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: section3 on January 17, 2018, 11:01:46 PM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: section3 on January 17, 2018, 11:07:08 PM
These refs pay no mind to Mullin
He pretty much has chirped his way onto the pay no mind list.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: rdstr25 on January 17, 2018, 11:15:05 PM
Guess not much they can do with what they have but rebounding and 3 point defense killing this team.

Out rebounded 39-21
3-point shooting defense 54% (14 treys)

Lack of fundamentals on defense. Plain and simple. Team in 3 years under Mullin is still bad on defense. No other way to put it.  This is where numbers lie.  Team is number one in scoring defense in league,  but have given up under 70 once in league play and over last 3 games, teams have scored 10 more points in each game.  The 3 point shooting has killed sju under Mullin and until he figures out how to get his team better in that category, losses will mount and record will stink.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: QuanMan on January 17, 2018, 11:23:13 PM
-21:5 assist to turnover ratio, 15 caused turnovers, and a major breakthrough in press defense are all very promising.

-Being out rebounded by 16 and giving up 14 3's for a +50% yet again is more of the same.

-These kids resiliency and refusal to give into their record is inspiring and makes me as a STH proud & looking forward to Saturday.

-Within the past 5 days they've tied #1 Nova and beat #11 X by 2 in the 2nd half. Soon enough they'll play a full 40, I think it happens this wknd.

-Once Justin masters his shooting stroke he'll be the face of the program. Shamorie continues to mature with his shot selection yet his lapses tonight in the final 10 minutes of the second half cost them the game. Attrition playing a huge part again. Trimble night by night is coming along just fine, I want him to stay in the program and continue to grow.

-This Winter has been brutal. However this team is starting to find itself again sans Marcus. The 82 points tonight is the team's highest total since December 2nd (Sacred Heart) and ties it's 2nd highest output this season.

Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: carmineabbatiello on January 17, 2018, 11:29:07 PM
Ok it's official.  My new Mfp is Justin Simon!
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 17, 2018, 11:31:28 PM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.

"Reckless" Simon - 28pts / 9reb /6ast / 3stl / 2to


Simon had the game of his life. He made hideous shot after hideous shot. That's just not sustainable with his form. His floaters look horrendous and he hit about 8 jumpers. Dom Pointer had games he couldn't miss as well. That is not a formula for success

Ponds was unreal for the first 13-14 minutes of the second half, but I'll admit he was awful to end it.  Just really bad.

It's very discouraging how poorly our guys hit the offensive glass. Five offensive boards?! Everyone follows Ponds on his drives and leaves a clear lane for our guys to sneak in for easy putbacks, but nobody is ever there. How is that possible?


Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Lycidas on January 17, 2018, 11:33:47 PM
We are short an outside shooter and a big-bodied rebounder. Even so, with LoVett we would have run Xavier ragged tonight. Tough to play nearly 40 minutes against waves of fresh bodies off the bench. Nice stretch to get back in the game in the second half and take a lead, but that level of effort is unsustainable when playing a ranked team that is undefeated at home with a full bench and extra bigs to throw at us.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Poison on January 17, 2018, 11:40:02 PM
8-35
Their were some positives. The guys played hard. Still we took bad shots. Gave up easy shots. And didn’t rebound. This looked like norms boys playing hard and losing, like always.
8-35, 9 in a row

Actually, it’s 7 losses in a row, but we’ll get there.

Zero boxing out. We worked for every point we scored. We gave Xavier half their points for free. Never in my wildest imagination did I think it would be possible that we would have a coach worse than Norm Roberts. But St.John’s has done it.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 11:43:07 PM
These refs pay no mind to Mullin
These pretzels are making me thirsty.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 17, 2018, 11:46:31 PM
Depth and another shooter hurt us here. Lovett would have been nice this game. Great effort against a good team.
I know he is on the perimeter on offense but you think Clark could get 3 or 4 rebounds on accident.
Ahmed when bad is a disaster.
Ponds bad night wasn't because of his shooting problems as he hit a better % than he normally does. Those are tough drives and at his frame sometimes going to struggle. Also thought he got hit a few times. He is going to have to knock down some shots because they are playing off him now.
I know he had a career game shooting and turnover prone but as I have said all year Simon is really fun to watch. What we all wanted Reggie Jessie and Ellison to be.

Keep hanging close and losing takes a toll, but I think we beat Gtown.
Simon=Swiss Army Knife
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Poison on January 17, 2018, 11:49:08 PM
We are short an outside shooter and a big-bodied rebounder. Even so, with LoVett we would have run Xavier ragged tonight. Tough to play nearly 40 minutes against waves of fresh bodies off the bench. Nice stretch to get back in the game in the second half and take a lead, but that level of effort is unsustainable when playing a ranked team that is undefeated at home with a full bench and extra bigs to throw at us.

We played freshman defense. Fell for every ball fake, lost every shooter and again didn’t bother to box out. The last time we had a coach with upperclassmen this clueless we wanted him fired.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marillac on January 18, 2018, 12:05:41 AM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.

All year.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: RedStormNC on January 18, 2018, 12:06:47 AM
Post game quotes

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/011718aab.html

Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: TONYD3 on January 18, 2018, 06:13:55 AM
8-35
Their were some positives. The guys played hard. Still we took bad shots. Gave up easy shots. And didn’t rebound. This looked like norms boys playing hard and losing, like always.
8-35, 9 in a row

Actually, it’s 7 losses in a row, but we’ll get there.

Zero boxing out. We worked for every point we scored. We gave Xavier half their points for free. Never in my wildest imagination did I think it would be possible that we would have a coach worse than Norm Roberts. But St.John’s has done it.
Goes back to last season. 9 big east games in a row
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 18, 2018, 09:22:22 AM
It has to be all Ponds now.

Good call after Simon just made 3 plays in a row...

He's too reckless. His points aren't sustainable in the half court in close games.

"Reckless" Simon - 28pts / 9reb /6ast / 3stl / 2to


Simon had the game of his life. He made hideous shot after hideous shot. That's just not sustainable with his form. His floaters look horrendous and he hit about 8 jumpers. Dom Pointer had games he couldn't miss as well. That is not a formula for success

Ponds was unreal for the first 13-14 minutes of the second half, but I'll admit he was awful to end it.  Just really bad.

It's very discouraging how poorly our guys hit the offensive glass. Five offensive boards?! Everyone follows Ponds on his drives and leaves a clear lane for our guys to sneak in for easy putbacks, but nobody is ever there. How is that possible?




I think Brian Fantana should take this one:
"Take it easy, Champ. Why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while. "
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 18, 2018, 09:30:26 AM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.

All year.

I know you have recently gone cuckoo for coco puffs and all and really don't mean to add on but I feel my friend Stat Sheet needs to stop being ignored. Ponds shooting 39% overall compared to 47% for Clark. Now yes Ponds is better, takes tougher shots and Clark's rebounding is downright embarrassing, but you simply have to stop making things up to downgrade other guys to make Ponds look better.

Ponds is our best player and very good. He has not had the year he or us expected and that is part of the problem. He said as much a couple weeks ago. W/o Ponds we stink. We all get it but he also has to play better next year if we are to be decent and if he has any pro aspirations. He gets lazy on D and he is going to have to make an outside shot every once in awhile to keep defenses honest.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Celtics11 on January 18, 2018, 11:26:13 AM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.

All year.
Add this to his rebounding woes and it seems Mr. Clark has an aversion to the basket and the backboard or maybe he is just allergic to them.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: cjfish on January 18, 2018, 11:34:27 AM
-21:5 assist to turnover ratio, 15 caused turnovers, and a major breakthrough in press defense are all very promising.

-Being out rebounded by 16 and giving up 14 3's for a +50% yet again is more of the same.

-These kids resiliency and refusal to give into their record is inspiring and makes me as a STH proud & looking forward to Saturday.

-Within the past 5 days they've tied #1 Nova and beat #11 X by 2 in the 2nd half. Soon enough they'll play a full 40, I think it happens this wknd.

-Once Justin masters his shooting stroke he'll be the face of the program. Shamorie continues to mature with his shot selection yet his lapses tonight in the final 10 minutes of the second half cost them the game. Attrition playing a huge part again. Trimble night by night is coming along just fine, I want him to stay in the program and continue to grow.

-This Winter has been brutal. However this team is starting to find itself again sans Marcus. The 82 points tonight is the team's highest total since December 2nd (Sacred Heart) and ties it's 2nd highest output this season.






I agree that they are progressing and learning to play without Lovett.  I think exhaustion is a problem and think that CM should use timeouts to rest players, excepting of course when the opposition is on a serious run.  I see some wins coming up.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 18, 2018, 11:44:32 AM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.

All year.
Add this to his rebounding woes and it seems Mr. Clark has an aversion to the basket and the backboard or maybe he is just allergic to them.

I watched him play at Mich st. Really surprising about his rebounding.
IMO the reasons we are as bad as we are :
1. Lovett
2. Lack of depth / zombie Yakwe
3. Lack of toughness / rebounding from Clark
4. Ponds outside shooting
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Foad on January 18, 2018, 12:41:29 PM
Xavier - St John's recap http://www.bigeastboards.com/
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 18, 2018, 01:07:51 PM
Xavier - St John's recap http://www.bigeastboards.com/

Enjoyable as always.
Not sure how I missed the whole mailbox thing but don't remember that. That is pretty crazy.
See I met a bunch of posters at a BEB thing awhile back and it was nice and all but  I think I like it better not knowing everyone's real identity.

For instance I picture you looking like a cross between Joe Walsh, Elmore Leonard and Larry David.
Masejr I picture looking like the kid from the Goldberg's TV show
Paultz-Mike Vaccaro. In fact I think he might be Mike Vaccaro.
Tony-Steve Lavin. In fact I think he might be Steve Lavin
Fordham-Like the old guy in UP. The guy with the balloons.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Foad on January 18, 2018, 02:42:18 PM
I picture you looking like a cross between Joe Walsh, Elmore Leonard and Larry David.

Oh come on, I'm much better looking than that. A virile six feet - not too short not too tall - a manly beard, full head of short cropped salt and pepper hair, distinguished gray temples. Picture George Clooney, add 30 pound and put him in gray sweat pants and a stained white tee shirt.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 18, 2018, 02:52:15 PM
I picture you looking like a cross between Joe Walsh, Elmore Leonard and Larry David.

Oh come on, I'm much better looking than that. A virile six feet - not too short not too tall - a manly beard, full head of short cropped salt and pepper hair, distinguished gray temples. Picture George Clooney, add 30 pound and put him in gray sweat pants and a stained white tee shirt.

Figured you had that angry, eccentric genius look going. Kurt Vonnegut maybe. You know 1970's college professor thing. Tweed jacket , smoking a pipe and drinking a scotch. Don't ruin it for me. Was bad enough when I met Baldi and he didn't look like Sen John Blutarsky. Though in fairness was not that far off on that one.

I forgot Poison in earlier post. In my head he looks like Ming the Merciless from Flash Gordon for some reason.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 18, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
I picture you looking like a cross between Joe Walsh, Elmore Leonard and Larry David.

Oh come on, I'm much better looking than that. A virile six feet - not too short not too tall - a manly beard, full head of short cropped salt and pepper hair, distinguished gray temples. Picture George Clooney, add 30 pound and put him in gray sweat pants and a stained white tee shirt.

Figured you had that angry, eccentric genius look going. Kurt Vonnegut maybe. You know 1970's college professor thing. Tweed jacket , smoking a pipe and drinking a scotch. Don't ruin it for me. Was bad enough when I met Baldi and he didn't look like Sen John Blutarsky. Though in fairness was not that far off on that one.

I forgot Poison in earlier post. In my head he looks like Ming the Merciless from Flash Gordon for some reason.

Blutarski is a compliment. Guy was a champ
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: we are sju on January 18, 2018, 03:26:03 PM
I picture you looking like a cross between Joe Walsh, Elmore Leonard and Larry David.

Oh come on, I'm much better looking than that. A virile six feet - not too short not too tall - a manly beard, full head of short cropped salt and pepper hair, distinguished gray temples. Picture George Clooney, add 30 pound and put him in gray sweat pants and a stained white tee shirt.

Figured you had that angry, eccentric genius look going. Kurt Vonnegut maybe. You know 1970's college professor thing. Tweed jacket , smoking a pipe and drinking a scotch. Don't ruin it for me. Was bad enough when I met Baldi and he didn't look like Sen John Blutarsky. Though in fairness was not that far off on that one.

I forgot Poison in earlier post. In my head he looks like Ming the Merciless from Flash Gordon for some reason.

Blutarski is a compliment. Guy was a champ

Was meant as such
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 18, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
I picture you looking like a cross between Joe Walsh, Elmore Leonard and Larry David.

Oh come on, I'm much better looking than that. A virile six feet - not too short not too tall - a manly beard, full head of short cropped salt and pepper hair, distinguished gray temples. Picture George Clooney, add 30 pound and put him in gray sweat pants and a stained white tee shirt.

Figured you had that angry, eccentric genius look going. Kurt Vonnegut maybe. You know 1970's college professor thing. Tweed jacket , smoking a pipe and drinking a scotch. Don't ruin it for me. Was bad enough when I met Baldi and he didn't look like Sen John Blutarsky. Though in fairness was not that far off on that one.

I forgot Poison in earlier post. In my head he looks like Ming the Merciless from Flash Gordon for some reason.

Blutarski is a compliment. Guy was a champ

Was meant as such

My advice to you, is to start drinking heavily
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Poison on January 18, 2018, 04:22:26 PM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.

All year.
Add this to his rebounding woes and it seems Mr. Clark has an aversion to the basket and the backboard or maybe he is just allergic to them.

I watched him play at Mich st. Really surprising about his rebounding.
IMO the reasons we are as bad as we are :
1. Lovett
2. Lack of depth / zombie Yakwe
3. Lack of toughness / rebounding from Clark
4. Ponds outside shooting


Agreed. There was a lack of awareness on the defensive glass from everyone. Mullin isn't teaching his players fundamentals, or if he is, they aren't listening to him. Last night should have showed every fan of this program that the team just doesn't have a plan.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: Foad on January 18, 2018, 04:52:27 PM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.

All year.
Add this to his rebounding woes and it seems Mr. Clark has an aversion to the basket and the backboard or maybe he is just allergic to them.

I watched him play at Mich st. Really surprising about his rebounding.
IMO the reasons we are as bad as we are :
1. Lovett
2. Lack of depth / zombie Yakwe
3. Lack of toughness / rebounding from Clark
4. Ponds outside shooting


Agreed. There was a lack of awareness on the defensive glass from everyone. Mullin isn't teaching his players fundamentals, or if he is, they aren't listening to him. Last night should have showed every fan of this program that the team just doesn't have a plan.

Last night they played the #11 team in the country to a draw for 35 minutes. It didn't show anyone anything they didn't already know

You didn't like the Mullin hire two years ago, you still don't like it. Fine. Don't pretend that every game is an epiphany. Because it's not.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: anthony68 on January 18, 2018, 07:21:17 PM
A few things are absolutely clear:
- The team does not box out
- Few picks are set for Ponds or Simon and no pick and rolls
- There are few offensive plays set up to get someone open
- everyone always drops off their man to try to help out in the middle, regardless of how many threes their man is making. Maybe they should try not dropping off the hot man.
- They need to hire an assistant coach to address the above issues
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: cjfish on January 18, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
And few baseline and foulline extended off-the-ball screens, an excellent way to get some good looks inside and out.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: RedmenNYC on January 18, 2018, 09:02:58 PM
Man 3 LAY up opportunities first Clark then Ponds twice to get the lead to 5 and they can't convert...

They are owed some good luck...make some shots here last 7 minutes...
Clark misses just about every layup opportunity.

All year.
Add this to his rebounding woes and it seems Mr. Clark has an aversion to the basket and the backboard or maybe he is just allergic to them.

I watched him play at Mich st. Really surprising about his rebounding.
IMO the reasons we are as bad as we are :
1. Lovett
2. Lack of depth / zombie Yakwe
3. Lack of toughness / rebounding from Clark
4. Ponds outside shooting


Agreed. There was a lack of awareness on the defensive glass from everyone. Mullin isn't teaching his players fundamentals, or if he is, they aren't listening to him. Last night should have showed every fan of this program that the team just doesn't have a plan.

No.
Title: Re: Game 19: @#11 Xavier
Post by: carmineabbatiello on January 19, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
As great as Walden was against Nova - Garfunkel was just as great against Xavier.  If we could ever get our 1 and new 2 going at the same time we might win a game.