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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 23, 2018, 12:47:13 AM

Title: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 23, 2018, 12:47:13 AM
+4 in Vegas

Gave my tickets to a guy who is actually really excited to go to the game. Hope he is a good luck charm. Let's go Johnnies.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Poison on January 23, 2018, 01:04:39 AM
+4 in Vegas

Gave my tickets to a guy who is actually really excited to go to the game. Hope he is a good luck charm. Let's go Johnnies.

Doug McDermott?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Courts603 on January 23, 2018, 02:14:11 PM
2 star recruit Krampelj + 3 years with McDermot average a double double                                   4 star recruit Yakwe + 3 years with Mullin looks like he never played ball.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: QuanMan on January 23, 2018, 02:20:44 PM
Bash's late three against GTown aside, he has to step up and return to where he was around the holidays. Ever since his flu he's been out of sorts. I'll be in the building and don't know what to expect to be honest. Morale has to be at the ultimate low, that bus ride back on 95 Saturday night had to be brutal, only two practice days since.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: ras on January 23, 2018, 02:28:49 PM
I don’t think Bash was 100 percent. The flu lingers. Despite what posters say about him , he is not our problem . Although I think Trimble has potential , he has been playing a lot of minutes lately.Hoping Bash gets to old form , we need him.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: we are sju on January 23, 2018, 03:15:19 PM
I don’t think Bash was 100 percent. The flu lingers. Despite what posters say about him , he is not our problem . Although I think Trimble has potential , he has been playing a lot of minutes lately.Hoping Bash gets to old form , we need him.
Hope he has a very successful postliminary ST John's life.  I am however looking forward to the conclusion of his playing career here.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 07:00:18 PM
Press with Owens up top
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 07:04:03 PM
74-71 St. John's.

Wonder if Lovett can commute to CA
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: stjohnnie75 on January 23, 2018, 07:15:22 PM
Press with Owens up top

You want him to foul out in 5 mins?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 07:21:05 PM
Press with Owens up top

You want him to foul out in 5 mins?

He does that under the basket
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 07:22:48 PM
Press with Owens up top

So you want to take a guy whose only real skill is blocking shots and move him as far away from the basket as possible? Bold strategy Cotton
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 07:29:10 PM
Press with Owens up top

So you want to take a guy whose only real skill is blocking shots and move him as far away from the basket as possible? Bold strategy Cotton
Putting a tall kid who is really athletic would work really well in a HS game. Not sure it would work in division 1. Not sure it would work against Greg McDermott. When we do press, I think it’s a good idea.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 07:34:10 PM
Press with Owens up top

So you want to take a guy whose only real skill is blocking shots and move him as far away from the basket as possible? Bold strategy Cotton
Putting a tall kid who is really athletic would work really well in a HS game. Not sure it would work in division 1. Not sure it would work against Greg McDermott. When we do press, I think it’s a good idea.

So when they inevitably break the press your only rim protector as at half court and Marvin Clark who has a 3 inch vertical has to try and block or alter a layup attempt. If Owens doesn't get in foul trouble putting him at the top of the press is a good way to make sure he still doesn't play big minutes since he'll be exhausted before halftime
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 07:41:10 PM
Press with Owens up top

So you want to take a guy whose only real skill is blocking shots and move him as far away from the basket as possible? Bold strategy Cotton
Putting a tall kid who is really athletic would work really well in a HS game. Not sure it would work in division 1. Not sure it would work against Greg McDermott. When we do press, I think it’s a good idea.

So when they inevitably break the press your only rim protector as at half court and Marvin Clark who has a 3 inch vertical has to try and block or alter a layup attempt. If Owens doesn't get in foul trouble putting him at the top of the press is a good way to make sure he still doesn't play big minutes since he'll be exhausted before halftime
You could sub him. Call time outs. Go zone. Plenty of ways to rest him. We need to do something different. Yakwe can play some more minutes early.
The rim protection is kind of over rated in my opinion.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 07:43:15 PM
Press with Owens up top

So you want to take a guy whose only real skill is blocking shots and move him as far away from the basket as possible? Bold strategy Cotton
Putting a tall kid who is really athletic would work really well in a HS game. Not sure it would work in division 1. Not sure it would work against Greg McDermott. When we do press, I think it’s a good idea.

So when they inevitably break the press your only rim protector as at half court and Marvin Clark who has a 3 inch vertical has to try and block or alter a layup attempt. If Owens doesn't get in foul trouble putting him at the top of the press is a good way to make sure he still doesn't play big minutes since he'll be exhausted before halftime

Blocked shots are great when you actually recover the ball. I think it's an overrated stat. Georgetown's 3 bigs all had 16+ points last game. Kanter ate his lunch the game before. Time for something different. Start Yakwe and put him at the top for the first few minutes
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 08:14:18 PM
Double digit win
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 08:22:09 PM
St. John’s is giving up 83.9 points per big east game
Gre mcdermot is 99-9 when his team scores 80 plus
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 08:39:25 PM
Have to look to get Thomas in foul trouble. Him hounding ponds all game will be tough.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 08:40:36 PM
Have to look to get Thomas in foul trouble. Him hounding ponds all game will be tough.

Yup. Ponds needs to take it to the rack. Don't rely on the 3
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: fordham96 on January 23, 2018, 08:41:09 PM
Just get off the schneid tonight....
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 08:44:42 PM
Play defense , slow the game down, take better shots . Then maybe a chance
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 08:47:04 PM
When was the last time they buffed the court?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 08:49:25 PM
When was the last time they buffed the court?
Court looks good when you are there. Looks worse on tv
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 08:50:33 PM
No one is wearing a tie. They must be mailing it in
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: johnnies11 on January 23, 2018, 08:52:39 PM
Clark with 2 of the dumbest fouls you'll ever see...
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 08:53:47 PM
Clark with 2 of the dumbest fouls you'll ever see...

Not if you saw his 5th vs gtown.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 08:54:09 PM
Damn coach make some shots!
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Poison on January 23, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
I wonder if the staff has considered having someone set a pick to get Shamorie open? He’s already trying to do too much with the ball. Just dribbled around three guys. There isn’t anyone else open? My math says there probably is.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: redstorm212 on January 23, 2018, 08:57:03 PM
Wow we suck.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 08:58:31 PM
Wow we suck.

Make or miss game.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
A decent crowd there . Very surprised. 8:30 start
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 08:59:39 PM
Wow we suck.

Make or miss game.

Some teams actually move the ball around a little to get their players good shots. This team doesn't do that
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:00:16 PM
Ponds mailed it in. Get him out
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 09:02:28 PM
Wow we suck.

Make or miss game.

Some teams actually move the ball around a little to get their players good shots. This team doesn't do that

Yea man and some teams have more than 3 threats out there. Plenty of good looks in first 8 minutes.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:02:56 PM
Ponds mailed it in. Get him out
I don’t believe that. What should he do?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 09:03:25 PM
Ponds mailed it in. Get him out

So have our coaches, because they are not calling any offensive sets.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:03:38 PM
Ponds mailed it in. Get him out
I don’t believe that. What should he do?

Play some defense. Maybe look interested
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 09:03:44 PM
Owens has too many blocks at the rim already. Let's move him away from the basket to help our defense. Ok
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:04:04 PM
Wow we suck.

Make or miss game.

Some teams actually move the ball around a little to get their players good shots. This team doesn't do that

Yea man and some teams have more than 3 threats out there. Plenty of good looks in first 8 minutes.
Defending this shit is ridiculous. Simon took 3 ‘s already. Owens bricked atleast 2 Long 2’s
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 09:04:35 PM
Ponds mailed it in. Get him out

God awful shot. Also gotta be awful to see your passes lead to bricks.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:06:23 PM
Amar time, great play
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Pete88 on January 23, 2018, 09:06:36 PM
Ponds mailed it in. Get him out

God awful shot. Also gotta be awful to see your passes lead to bricks.
Wow we suck.

Make or miss game.

Some teams actually move the ball around a little to get their players good shots. This team doesn't do that

Yea man and some teams have more than 3 threats out there. Plenty of good looks in first 8 minutes.
Defending this shit is ridiculous. Simon took 3 ‘s already. Owens bricked atleast 2 Long 2’s

Creighton has taken 14 shots - 7 are from 3
SJU has taken 15 shots - 7 are from 3

They both suck
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:06:49 PM
Thatta boy Amar
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:08:29 PM
Amar took 3 steps
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Pete88 on January 23, 2018, 09:08:41 PM
AliB getting ready to take this game over
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:10:24 PM
I have never seen any team foul 3 pointers like this
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:10:27 PM
Keep getting those blocks Tariq
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
Ponds mailed it in. Get him out

God awful shot. Also gotta be awful to see your passes lead to bricks.
Wow we suck.

Make or miss game.

Some teams actually move the ball around a little to get their players good shots. This team doesn't do that

Yea man and some teams have more than 3 threats out there. Plenty of good looks in first 8 minutes.
Defending this shit is ridiculous. Simon took 3 ‘s already. Owens bricked atleast 2 Long 2’s

Creighton has taken 14 shots - 7 are from 3
SJU has taken 15 shots - 7 are from 3

They both suck

And McDermott is an offensive genius. Seriously he is.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:12:39 PM
Zero hustle
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Pete88 on January 23, 2018, 09:13:35 PM
no worse team at defending the 3
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: redstorm212 on January 23, 2018, 09:14:46 PM
idk what to say anymore. We lose this one I'm convinced we go 0-18.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 09:14:56 PM
Keep getting those blocks Tariq

Yep. 4 point difference already. But by all means let's allow more uncontested layups
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 09:15:31 PM
Sju got their gut check article in the media today.   Wonder what else Zach can write to keep pressure on university to make sure this staff is desolved besides Mullin at years end.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:15:51 PM
no worse team at defending the 3
Bad shots, which aren’t considered turnovers lead to wide open shots. As does terrible transition defense.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:15:54 PM
Keep getting those blocks Tariq

Yep. 4 point difference already. But by all means let's allow more uncontested layups

5 but who is counting
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:16:46 PM
Sju got their gut check article in the media today.   Wonder what else Zach can write to keep pressure on university to make sure this staff is desolved besides Mullin at years end.

His source is sitting on the bench
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
Keep getting those blocks Tariq

Yep. 4 point difference already. But by all means let's allow more uncontested layups

5 but who is counting

Not sure what you are referring to but I seem to recall 2 blocks by him in which we took possession. But I'm sure Trimble makes those blocks too
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Sju got their gut check article in the media today.   Wonder what else Zach can write to keep pressure on university to make sure this staff is desolved besides Mullin at years end.

His source is sitting on the bench

Good! Then the articles will continue
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:21:00 PM
Sju got their gut check article in the media today.   Wonder what else Zach can write to keep pressure on university to make sure this staff is desolved besides Mullin at years end.

His source is sitting on the bench

Good! Then the articles will continue

Yup. See who else will get thrown under the bus
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: johnnies11 on January 23, 2018, 09:22:01 PM
No Lovett on the bench again. Can't use rehabbing on campus as an excuse lol. (For the record, I don't want to see him on the bench anyway).
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:22:50 PM
No Lovett on the bench again. Can't use rehabbing on campus as an excuse lol. (For the record, I don't want to see him on the bench anyway).

Thought I saw him in the red shirt?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:24:02 PM
I don’t love out of bounds plays. But how do you not Call something with seconds on the shot clock?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 09:25:33 PM
Zone
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:26:02 PM
Clark 0 rebounds. Rinse, repeat
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 09:26:25 PM
Is this the game, the team finally quits on season?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: johnnies11 on January 23, 2018, 09:26:36 PM
No Lovett on the bench again. Can't use rehabbing on campus as an excuse lol. (For the record, I don't want to see him on the bench anyway).

Thought I saw him in the red shirt?

That's Boubacar I believe.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:30:17 PM
Toby lighting it up. Again
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: RedStormNC on January 23, 2018, 09:31:42 PM
What an awful basketball team we are
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:33:36 PM
Don’t worry. We will make. Few adjustments. We will be fine
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 09:33:38 PM
If Mullin is calling anything, ponds could care less.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: redstorm212 on January 23, 2018, 09:33:53 PM
Does anyone see this getting any better next year?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
If Mullin is calling anything, ponds could care less.

I would bench him after that lost shot.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:35:10 PM
Does anyone see this getting any better next year?

Can't get any worse. So ya
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Poison on January 23, 2018, 09:35:47 PM
When the teams stops playing hard, it’s over for the coach. Mullin isn’t cut out for this. Creighton is taking wide open threes. Effort was the last shred of dignity this program had. That’s gone now, too.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:36:01 PM
Does anyone see this getting any better next year?
I do not. This creighton is ok. They just lost their center. If we played them 50 Times with same staffs. I think they win 47 Times.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
Does anyone see this getting any better next year?

No one can look at some of the shots and say they are smart shots. Problem is mullin can’t look at anyone on the bench and say they will do better. Plenty of question marks. Full roster gives him a chance to show what he wants to do.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: RedStormNC on January 23, 2018, 09:42:23 PM
We must be saving all our fancy plays & cohesive defense for Duke game.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:44:20 PM
We must be saving all our fancy plays & cohesive defense for Duke game.
Hey, have you been to a game at duke? How hard is it to get tickets? Was planning on going next year. Not going if we are going to get killed
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: cjfish on January 23, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
"the ship be sinking"
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 09:49:38 PM
We must be saving all our fancy plays & cohesive defense for Duke game.
Hey, have you been to a game at duke? How hard is it to get tickets? Was planning on going next year. Not going if we are going to get killed

I guess you're not going then
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:50:31 PM
We must be saving all our fancy plays & cohesive defense for Duke game.
Hey, have you been to a game at duke? How hard is it to get tickets? Was planning on going next year. Not going if we are going to get killed

I guess you're not going then
Probably not. Was going to go at nova and providence this year. Cancelled
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: RedStormNC on January 23, 2018, 09:50:59 PM
We must be saving all our fancy plays & cohesive defense for Duke game.
Hey, have you been to a game at duke? How hard is it to get tickets? Was planning on going next year. Not going if we are going to get killed

I'm pretty sure we'll get killed this year and next.  Haven't been to Cameron but heard you only real chance is on StubHub etc
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:51:27 PM
Who is guarding Toby? The shot blocker?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 09:52:42 PM
We must be saving all our fancy plays & cohesive defense for Duke game.
Hey, have you been to a game at duke? How hard is it to get tickets? Was planning on going next year. Not going if we are going to get killed

I'm pretty sure we'll get killed this year and next.  Haven't been to Cameron but heard you only real chance is on StubHub etc
Thanks
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
Who is guarding Toby? The shot blocker?

It was your idea to have him guard away from the rim wasn't it?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:55:02 PM
Who is guarding Toby? The shot blocker?

It was your idea to have him guard away from the rim wasn't it?

Yes on the press
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: RedStormNC on January 23, 2018, 09:57:39 PM
What's that famous saying about definition of insanity?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 09:57:53 PM
Who is guarding Toby? The shot blocker?

It was your idea to have him guard away from the rim wasn't it?

Yes on the press

I guess you haven't noticed his lack of lateral quickness in this game which is what the top man on the press needs to have a ton of. But hey, why don't we have Kassoum Yakwe run the point? Need to change it up a little bit
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 09:59:42 PM
Like the ball movement there
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 10:00:09 PM
Trimble all over the court
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
Making a nice run without the 2 black holes touching the ball
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 10:01:08 PM
What's that famous saying about definition of insanity?
+10000000000000
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 10:05:10 PM
Ownes is working hard
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 10:10:18 PM
Clark still 0 rebounds. Kinda hard to do that every game. Yet he succeeds
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Poison on January 23, 2018, 10:13:01 PM
Does anyone see this getting any better next year?

No one can look at some of the shots and say they are smart shots. Problem is mullin can’t look at anyone on the bench and say they will do better. Plenty of question marks. Full roster gives him a chance to show what he wants to do.

Do they need a full roster for Ahmed to dish it off to Owens for a wide open dunk? Or for Ponds to not forget to close out on a shooter? Some of this is depth and a poorly assembled roster.
But a lot of this is upperclassmen playing like gym class ball hogs.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Poison on January 23, 2018, 10:14:45 PM
How is Ahmed a senior?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Poison on January 23, 2018, 10:16:06 PM
We are just not paying attention
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 10:19:44 PM
Ponds in the doghouse
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 10:22:33 PM
Ponds in the doghouse

No looking good for next year
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 10:23:16 PM
Ponds in the doghouse

No looking good for next year

Save your nonsense for off days at least. Geez
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 10:24:37 PM
Ponds in the doghouse

No looking good for next year

Save your nonsense for off days at least. Geez

I'd say this is a very off day
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 10:25:25 PM
According to Zach Ponds has ice on his knee on the bench
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 10:25:57 PM
Does anyone see this getting any better next year?

No one can look at some of the shots and say they are smart shots. Problem is mullin can’t look at anyone on the bench and say they will do better. Plenty of question marks. Full roster gives him a chance to show what he wants to do.

Do they need a full roster for Ahmed to dish it off to Owens for a wide open dunk? Or for Ponds to not forget to close out on a shooter? Some of this is depth and a poorly assembled roster.
But a lot of this is upperclassmen playing like gym class ball hogs.

No, but to take out the guys who didnt see the open guy or forgot to box out they do.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Pete88 on January 23, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
Ponds in the doghouse

No looking good for next year

Xavier
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
Justin Simon is a far better PG than Ponds is
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 10:35:48 PM
Players have limitations. But They don’t quit. Offense looks a lot better with ponds on bench. I don’t know why no one moves when he is in the game.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: fordham96 on January 23, 2018, 10:36:09 PM
Ponds in the doghouse

No looking good for next year

Xavier

Abdelmassih
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Poison on January 23, 2018, 10:37:31 PM
I don’t want to hear any BS about having too short a roster. We pay Norm Roberts dumb.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on January 23, 2018, 10:37:48 PM
Poor management there
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: goredmen on January 23, 2018, 10:38:22 PM
If you know you are fouling right away why don't throw in Amar and a walkon in place of your guys with 3 or 4 fouls
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 10:39:02 PM
I don’t want to hear any BS about having too short a roster. We pay Norm Roberts dumb.
You are going to hear it. Trust the process. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Simon is really good
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 10:43:44 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 10:45:25 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.
The fan base refuses to see rock bottom. Still 9 more games to go plus duke.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Ray Morgan on January 23, 2018, 10:47:05 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.

Which guys? This way, we can check your work when next season begins.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 23, 2018, 10:49:26 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.

Which guys? This way, we can check your work when next season begins.

Owens and Ponds
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: isham on January 23, 2018, 10:49:42 PM
This is just bad basketball. Anyone who defends Mullin and the product out on the court just doesn't understand the game of basketball.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 10:51:12 PM
Couldn’t say who, cause it’s not something someone told me.  I’m saying that with the way this season has gone and Mullins track record, it’s a good bet that guys do not buy into the miraculous turnaround next season like we all would like to think.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Pete88 on January 23, 2018, 10:51:12 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.

Which guys? This way, we can check your work when next season begins.

Owens and Ponds

Xavier
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Foryoureyesonly88 on January 23, 2018, 10:52:06 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.

Which guys? This way, we can check your work when next season begins.

Owens and Ponds

Owens isn’t leaving, I’ve talked to his father already. About Ponds? I don’t know, but Owens isn’t leaving.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: stjohnnie75 on January 23, 2018, 10:54:20 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.

Which guys? This way, we can check your work when next season begins.

Owens and Ponds

Owens isn’t leaving, I’ve talked to his father already. About Ponds? I don’t know, but Owens isn’t leaving.

I don't think Owens will leave, but even if he already decided his father wouldn't tell anyone.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: SJUhoopNUT on January 23, 2018, 10:54:58 PM
Team and staff at least salvaged some pride tonight when Ponds went to the bench. That's about all I got.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 10:55:18 PM
Always have to be weary of guys who will graduate with eligibility remaining.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: fordham96 on January 23, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
Really nothing else to say.  Close losses are not cause of depth for the most part. Just poorly coached and shot selection.   There is no doubt in my mind, a bunch of guys will leave end of year.

Which guys? This way, we can check your work when next season begins.

Owens and Ponds

Xavier

Abdelmassih
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: mjdinkins on January 23, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
 
Couldn’t say who, cause it’s not something someone told me.  I’m saying that with the way this season has gone and Mullins track record, it’s a good bet that guys do not buy into the miraculous turnaround next season like we all would like to think.

I occasionally talk to kids, coaches, and parents (particularly, from the local high schools here in the area), and most aren't exactly easily fooled.  If we finish up at 0-18, then there will be a departure or two. 

I've stated it earlier, and will say it again....  negative recruiting is very real.
 
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: stjohnnie75 on January 23, 2018, 11:03:29 PM
The team does do a good job not turning the ball over. Really the only reason they are able to keep most games close.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: mjdinkins on January 23, 2018, 11:05:03 PM
The team does do a good job not turning the ball over. Really the only reason they are able to keep most games close.

They do a solid job turning over the opposition.  But, they run the poorest fast breaks (ie, poor spacing, sloppy dribbling and passing, can't consistently hit layups), so too many times they come up empty.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 11:11:17 PM
Couldn’t say who, cause it’s not something someone told me.  I’m saying that with the way this season has gone and Mullins track record, it’s a good bet that guys do not buy into the miraculous turnaround next season like we all would like to think.

I occasionally talk to kids, coaches, and parents (particularly, from the local high schools here in the area), and most aren't exactly easily fooled.  If we finish up at 0-18, then there will be a departure or two. 

I've stated it earlier, and will say it again....  negative recruiting is very real.
 

Whatever Mullin has to do, along with Matty A, to keep these kids from transfering is first priority.   The day after the season ends, Mullin needs to fire the staff and go out and get 3 solid replacements, who know x and o’s and can recruit. There has to be no time lapse in between firings and hirings or the 19 class will be non existent-at least with kids who are impact players.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 23, 2018, 11:12:19 PM
Couldn’t say who, cause it’s not something someone told me.  I’m saying that with the way this season has gone and Mullins track record, it’s a good bet that guys do not buy into the miraculous turnaround next season like we all would like to think.

I occasionally talk to kids, coaches, and parents (particularly, from the local high schools here in the area), and most aren't exactly easily fooled.  If we finish up at 0-18, then there will be a departure or two. 

I've stated it earlier, and will say it again....  negative recruiting is very real.
 

Whatever Mullin has to do, along with Matty A, to keep these kids from transfering is first priority.   The day after the season ends, Mullin needs to fire the staff and go out and get 3 solid replacements, who know x and o’s and can recruit. There has to be no time lapse in between firings and hirings or the 19 class will be non existent-at least with kids who are impact players.
That isn’t happening
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: mjdinkins on January 23, 2018, 11:13:14 PM
Couldn’t say who, cause it’s not something someone told me.  I’m saying that with the way this season has gone and Mullins track record, it’s a good bet that guys do not buy into the miraculous turnaround next season like we all would like to think.

I occasionally talk to kids, coaches, and parents (particularly, from the local high schools here in the area), and most aren't exactly easily fooled.  If we finish up at 0-18, then there will be a departure or two. 

I've stated it earlier, and will say it again....  negative recruiting is very real.
 

Whatever Mullin has to do, along with Matty A, to keep these kids from transfering is first priority.   The day after the season ends, Mullin needs to fire the staff and go out and get 3 solid replacements, who know x and o’s and can recruit. There has to be no time lapse in between firings and hirings or the 19 class will be non existent-at least with kids who are impact players.

I have no qualms about what you think should happen.  But, do you expect or trust him to make the right hires?
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 23, 2018, 11:19:53 PM
Couldn’t say who, cause it’s not something someone told me.  I’m saying that with the way this season has gone and Mullins track record, it’s a good bet that guys do not buy into the miraculous turnaround next season like we all would like to think.

I occasionally talk to kids, coaches, and parents (particularly, from the local high schools here in the area), and most aren't exactly easily fooled.  If we finish up at 0-18, then there will be a departure or two. 

I've stated it earlier, and will say it again....  negative recruiting is very real.
 

Whatever Mullin has to do, along with Matty A, to keep these kids from transfering is first priority.   The day after the season ends, Mullin needs to fire the staff and go out and get 3 solid replacements, who know x and o’s and can recruit. There has to be no time lapse in between firings and hirings or the 19 class will be non existent-at least with kids who are impact players.

I have no qualms about what you think should happen.  But, do you expect or trust him to make the right hires?

I don’t, unfortunately because he will not go to the right people for advice, if any.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: we are sju on January 23, 2018, 11:47:28 PM
Simon is a really good basketball player. If he had a jumper...........
Dating myself but reminds me of Paul Pressey sr
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: mjdinkins on January 23, 2018, 11:49:16 PM
Simon is a really good basketball player. If he had a jumper...........

AND, could consistently finish a layup.  Otherwise, I agree with you.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: we are sju on January 23, 2018, 11:52:55 PM
Simon is a really good basketball player. If he had a jumper...........

AND, could consistently finish a layup.  Otherwise, I agree with you.
Cmon both he and Ponds are not taking regular layups. Those are contested and Simon made really tough ones down the stretch. For a guy who can't shoot, and he has an awful looking jumper, he shot 7-14 and came in shooting 47%. I'd say he might be the most efficient bad shooter I can remember us having.
Team stinks, you don't like Mullin, I get it. Honestly Simon best thing about this year. And hopefully will have him 2 more years.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: mjdinkins on January 23, 2018, 11:57:23 PM
Simon is a really good basketball player. If he had a jumper...........

AND, could consistently finish a layup.  Otherwise, I agree with you.
Cmon both he and Ponds are not taking regular layups. Those are contested and Simon made really tough ones down the stretch. For a guy who can't shoot, and he has an awful looking jumper, he shot 7-14 and came in shooting 47%. I'd say he might be the most efficient bad shooter I can remember us having.
Team stinks, you don't like Mullin, I get it. Honestly Simon best thing about this year. And hopefully will have him 2 more years.

C'mon, hell!  He can't shoot nor finish layups.  I've seen him miss routine layups or even being slightly bump and miss 'em.  I've been saying all season that he's a very mediocre finisher.  WTH does Ponds have to do with anything?  I've told you about these fallacies you use.

Dude....  For one, I don't hate anyone.  I also don't use my dislike or lack of trust in the coach to gauge a player or players on the team.  Simon is a good player, though.  I like Simon.  I've said as much since early in the season. 
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: we are sju on January 24, 2018, 12:04:29 AM
Simon is a really good basketball player. If he had a jumper...........

AND, could consistently finish a layup.  Otherwise, I agree with you.
Cmon both he and Ponds are not taking regular layups. Those are contested and Simon made really tough ones down the stretch. For a guy who can't shoot, and he has an awful looking jumper, he shot 7-14 and came in shooting 47%. I'd say he might be the most efficient bad shooter I can remember us having.
Team stinks, you don't like Mullin, I get it. Honestly Simon best thing about this year. And hopefully will have him 2 more years.

C'mon, hell!  He can't shoot nor finish layups.  I've seen him miss routine layups or even being slightly bump and miss 'em.  I've been saying all season that he's a very mediocre finisher.

Dude....  For one, I don't hate anyone.  I also don't use my dislike or lack of trust in the coach to gauge a player or players on the team.  Simon is a good player, though.  I like Simon.  I've said as much since early in the season. 

Don't feel like arguing but...
Can't make layups not a good shooter but somehow shooting a touch under 48% . That is pretty amazing. What shot is he making then?
This board hates stats. I got Marillac telling me a guy shoots 19% from three and 39% overall is Steph Curry and you telling me a guy mostly shoots mid range, floaters and drives to the basket  can't make layups despite shooting 48%.
This has been a bad year all around. Team stinks and posters are struggling.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: mjdinkins on January 24, 2018, 12:09:11 AM
Simon is a really good basketball player. If he had a jumper...........

AND, could consistently finish a layup.  Otherwise, I agree with you.
Cmon both he and Ponds are not taking regular layups. Those are contested and Simon made really tough ones down the stretch. For a guy who can't shoot, and he has an awful looking jumper, he shot 7-14 and came in shooting 47%. I'd say he might be the most efficient bad shooter I can remember us having.
Team stinks, you don't like Mullin, I get it. Honestly Simon best thing about this year. And hopefully will have him 2 more years.

C'mon, hell!  He can't shoot nor finish layups.  I've seen him miss routine layups or even being slightly bump and miss 'em.  I've been saying all season that he's a very mediocre finisher.

Dude....  For one, I don't hate anyone.  I also don't use my dislike or lack of trust in the coach to gauge a player or players on the team.  Simon is a good player, though.  I like Simon.  I've said as much since early in the season. 

Don't feel like arguing but...
Can't make layups not a good shooter but somehow shooting a touch under 48% . That is pretty amazing. What shot is he making then?
This board hates stats. I got Marillac telling me a guy shoots 19% from three and 39% overall is Steph Curry and you telling me a guy mostly shoots mid range, floaters and drives to the basket  can't make layups despite shooting 48%.
This has been a bad year all around. Team stinks and posters are struggling.

So, what if he's shooting 48% while not being a good shooter and missing layups?  Just because he's shooting 48% doesn't mean he's not missing layups (fallacy).  Maybe, if he was consistently hitting layups, then he'd be shooting 50%.

Go argue with Marillac, as it seems your argument to this stems from your sparring with him.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Celtics11 on January 24, 2018, 12:22:26 AM
If you know you are fouling right away why don't throw in Amar and a walkon in place of your guys with 3 or 4 fouls
Said exact same thing while at the game. We only had 4 team fouls and needed to commit 3 fouls to put them at the line for 1 and 1. We come out of a TO and no substitution is made and the first intentional foul was either Amed or Owens for their fourth foul. Trimble then commits the next two. So neither Mullin or his crack staff has a freaking clue about a move an fing idiot would know to make. But if you listen to the Mullin apologists coaching doesn't matter. At that point in the game you would sign up for overtime so why get your prime players in more foul trouble. Same thing at end of G'town game and Clark fouled out. So you know what F$CK Foad!
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: dalydoseofhoops on January 24, 2018, 01:14:18 AM
http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/01/st-johns-still-not-waving-white-flag.html
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: redstorm212 on January 24, 2018, 08:05:38 AM
While I do think 0-9 is an anomaly, it doesn't make it hurt any less. Realistically I think we've played well enough to be 3-6 currently. However, you are what your record says.
I see three glaring issues with this team that unfortunately I don't see getting much better.

1.) Coaching. Mullin, Richmond, Etc look lost. They struggle throughout games, but during crunch time they fold just as bad as the players. The talent of our players keeps the games close, but most of these games, while the scores look competitive, the result was never in doubt. I get that they are all novice coaches, but I would have hoped to see more improvement 3 years in than what I've seen.

2.) None of our players have killer instinct. I hate to say it but Ponds is not cut out to be the leader of a winning team. Examples: behind the back passes for turnovers when the team is 0-7, and launching halfcourt 3s early in the shot clock when you're 0-8 out of frustration. He's far too nonchalant, and he hasnt shown me he really even cares about winning. Its almost like hes treating his time here as an audition for the NBA, nothing more. Talented, but give me Dwight Hardy or D'Angelo Harrison any day.

3.) Depth. It really kills us every game when Amar has to play. He would struggle for minutes at Siena but he's unfortunately a role player for us. This is one problem that potentially could improve with Keita, Roberts, Diakite coming on board, but I'm not banking on it.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: Foad on January 24, 2018, 08:36:49 AM
F$CK Foad!

Usually I enjoy it when people scream out my name in the dark but that didn't really do it for me. Maybe lay on your stomach, bite your pillow and try again.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: LowBallJ on January 24, 2018, 10:38:33 AM
While I do think 0-9 is an anomaly, it doesn't make it hurt any less. Realistically I think we've played well enough to be 3-6 currently. However, you are what your record says.
I see three glaring issues with this team that unfortunately I don't see getting much better.

1.) Coaching. Mullin, Richmond, Etc look lost. They struggle throughout games, but during crunch time they fold just as bad as the players. The talent of our players keeps the games close, but most of these games, while the scores look competitive, the result was never in doubt. I get that they are all novice coaches, but I would have hoped to see more improvement 3 years in than what I've seen.

2.) None of our players have killer instinct. I hate to say it but Ponds is not cut out to be the leader of a winning team. Examples: behind the back passes for turnovers when the team is 0-7, and launching halfcourt 3s early in the shot clock when you're 0-8 out of frustration. He's far too nonchalant, and he hasnt shown me he really even cares about winning. Its almost like hes treating his time here as an audition for the NBA, nothing more. Talented, but give me Dwight Hardy or D'Angelo Harrison any day.

3.) Depth. It really kills us every game when Amar has to play. He would struggle for minutes at Siena but he's unfortunately a role player for us. This is one problem that potentially could improve with Keita, Roberts, Diakite coming on board, but I'm not banking on it.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
1) Coaching. Bad Xs and Os. Simple fundamentals are lacking; most of the team cant guard a big east ball handler 1 on 1, there's overhelp, poor rotation, mad scrambles, despiration blocks attempts and finally a wide open lane for teams to feast on offensive rebounds. This season is the movie groundhog day.  We're ranked 328th out of 351 in D1 rebounding margin. We're dead last in big east 3 point shooting.  We're being coached for a different era of basketball. Ponds isn't Iverson, Simon isn't Dwayne Washington, Owens isn't Mutombo. 

2) Killer Instinct. This board loves to draw comparisons to Villanova and it's laugh out loud funny. Other than Ponds, SJU's regulars would be limited to mop-up duty for Jay Wright.  Ponds would be the 2nd guy off the bench. And it's not due to lack of skill but rather effort, intensity, and overall basketball IQ.  The team looked better with Ponds on the bench and Simon running things with some urgency last night.  I miss Harrison, Pointer, Horne and Greene. Ahmed and Clark should be forced to watch tape of those guys.

3) Depth aka recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. The revolving door of transfers and jucos and foreigners to fill voids is embarrassing. We can barely get 3* talent to commit here, and when they do, it's a 50/50 chance they develop into big east starter talent. 

The 2 teams that have made the NCAA tournament recently had more than one player that could run the offense with success. 14/15 - Jordan, Branch, Greene; 10/11 - Hardy, Boothe, Horne.  Those were team players for the most part. Ponds, Ahmed, Lovett are me first 1-on-1 wannabe mixtape ballers. The closest player we have to a floor general is Simon. 

We should look to replicate teams that have success nationally and within the big east. That means ball handlers who can shoot, but also take quality shots. Guards that can actually defend 1-on-1 and hit the glass hard on every shot, and bigs that know how to contribute offensively within 10 feet of the basket when asked to do so.    Tough to win a single game when you have 2 players on your team that fit the above criteria (Ponds & Simon)
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: QuanMan on January 24, 2018, 02:35:42 PM
The amount of times Hegner was open last night was appalling. How there weren't in game adjustments is beyond me. Someone has to be the fall guy on the staff and I think Matic and GSTJ are goners.

Khyri Thomas owns Shamorie. It was like watching a man against a boy for the second time in a month. He ate him for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and Shamorie hid his way behind another in game injury for the rest of the night. This kid is CODDLED, and the lack of in game discipline for his ill advised shooting is disrespectful to his teammates and every fan watching.

To the contrary, the character that Justin Simon displays on a nightly basis has to be acknowledged. His effort, energy, enthusiasm and refusal to give into the overall record is commendable. He's proven what type of person he is through his play and represents the program in the finest fashion.

The effort is there from  the team, however they just don't have enough. Marcus ruined everything. Sitting in CA last night was pretty depressing, but I'm not going anywhere. On to Butler.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: carmineabbatiello on January 24, 2018, 02:36:36 PM
My new Mfp Simon was player of the game again.  That's 2 of last 3 for those counting at home.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: we are sju on January 24, 2018, 02:44:23 PM
My new Mfp Simon was player of the game again.  That's 2 of last 3 for those counting at home.

Get lost he is my favorite player. Your favorite player usually stinks. Ahmed is free.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: ras on January 24, 2018, 02:51:57 PM
Simon is also my favorite. Knows his limitations.  Obviously I like Ponds. But, watching him hoist the 3 pointers beyond the NBA 3 pt. line is disconcerting. He does get double teamed, but that means someone is open, has to find him.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: carmineabbatiello on January 24, 2018, 02:55:25 PM
My new Mfp Simon was player of the game again.  That's 2 of last 3 for those counting at home.

Get lost he is my favorite player. Your favorite player usually stinks. Ahmed is free.

Not always. 

Okay - even though he well fits my profile for Mfp, you can have him.  I'll switch to Tariq.

Although, I do admire Bash's courage to bull rush to the basket in traffic and the fact that in his own mind he's got the offensive game of Bernard King - I generally prefer a player more adept at sharing the sugar and with a name more conducive to nicknames.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: TONYD3 on January 24, 2018, 03:11:07 PM
The amount of times Hegner was open last night was appalling. How there weren't in game adjustments is beyond me. Someone has to be the fall guy on the staff and I think Matic and GSTJ are goners.

Khyri Thomas owns Shamorie. It was like watching a man against a boy for the second time in a month. He ate him for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and Shamorie hid his way behind another in game injury for the rest of the night. This kid is CODDLED, and the lack of in game discipline for his ill advised shooting is disrespectful to his teammates and every fan watching.

To the contrary, the character that Justin Simon displays on a nightly basis has to be acknowledged. His effort, energy, enthusiasm and refusal to give into the overall record is commendable. He's proven what type of person he is through his play and represents the program in the finest fashion.

The effort is there from  the team, however they just don't have enough. Marcus ruined everything. Sitting in CA last night was pretty depressing, but I'm not going anywhere. On to Butler.
You are always positive. However, now support staff is being blamed. Matic? Not even sure what his job title is? Probably his fault if their are no pencils in the office.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: QuanMan on January 24, 2018, 03:37:56 PM
The amount of times Hegner was open last night was appalling. How there weren't in game adjustments is beyond me. Someone has to be the fall guy on the staff and I think Matic and GSTJ are goners.

Khyri Thomas owns Shamorie. It was like watching a man against a boy for the second time in a month. He ate him for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and Shamorie hid his way behind another in game injury for the rest of the night. This kid is CODDLED, and the lack of in game discipline for his ill advised shooting is disrespectful to his teammates and every fan watching.

To the contrary, the character that Justin Simon displays on a nightly basis has to be acknowledged. His effort, energy, enthusiasm and refusal to give into the overall record is commendable. He's proven what type of person he is through his play and represents the program in the finest fashion.

The effort is there from  the team, however they just don't have enough. Marcus ruined everything. Sitting in CA last night was pretty depressing, but I'm not going anywhere. On to Butler.
You are always positive. However, now support staff is being blamed. Matic? Not even sure what his job title is? Probably his fault if their are no pencils in the office.

There just has to be a culture shift, the staff is too young and inexperienced. If I were to guess there will be turnover and I don't see Mitch getting the axe so it leaves me to guess that there will be movement at DOBO and Assistant HC. They all seem to be great guys and I hate bringing this up, but when you're amidst a 9 game losing streak accountability comes into play, its an unfortunate topic of discussion.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: austour on January 24, 2018, 04:23:23 PM
Always have to be weary of guys who will graduate with eligibility remaining.

Yeah, I'm tired of it two.
Title: Re: Game 21: Creighton
Post by: rdstr25 on January 24, 2018, 04:29:01 PM
hahaha.  good catch.