6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: mjdinkins on June 17, 2010, 11:21:06 AM
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Another player excited to be at the camp was Jakarr Sampson. The 6′7 forward from “St. V†(St. Vincent-St. Mary in Akron) said the thing he wants to find out most from the players is their opinions and points of view on different topics, including the league. “It’s pretty cool to get an NBA players input and ask them what it’s like to be in the league,†said Sampson.
Sampson had a top four list of schools all ready for me and some might find it surprising.
“Right now it’s St. John’s, USC, Louisville and Baylor,†said the kid who’s stock has risen dramatically over the last year. Sampson added that new St. John’s coach Steve Lavin seems like a “cool dude, you know a nice dude to hang around with.†Interesting.
Sampson does fit the Lavin profile of a long, athletic greyhound slasher-type.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0617/mernagh-arrival-day-at-nbapa-top-100-camp/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0617/mernagh-arrival-day-at-nbapa-top-100-camp/)
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/19/jakarr-sampson-on-lebrons-future-recruiting/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/19/jakarr-sampson-on-lebrons-future-recruiting/)
He recently attended St. John’s skills and development camp, along with his mother, Dawnett Sampson, and said he’s seriously considering the Johnnies.
“I really like it out there,†he said. “I like the city. That could be a good thing and a bad thing. I like the coaches there. I feel real comfortable around there. It’s real important for me to be comfortable around the coaches. If I’m gonna spend four years with somebody, I gotta be comfortable with them.â€
Not sure why that would be a bad thing. Sounds like something a mother would say.
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Jakarr Sampson 2011 Forward - King James #14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqp1oOZ6cpo#)
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St. Vincent-St. Mary Boys Basketball 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHd5UFNchcg#ws)
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Jakarr Sampson: Overall Sampson had mixed results for the camp, but he was excellent on the final day. The long and athletic combo forward scored a camp high of 27 points and did it every way possible. He scored off the catch and shoot, hit off the dribble, and converted down low with his length and athleticism. He needs to improve his strength and get more consistent, but when the flashes all come together like they did on Saturday it can be quite impressive.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1095884 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1095884)
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Jakarr Sampson, SF � It's been a solid couple of months for Sampson as he continues to put together an emerging skill set to go with his tremendous athleticism. The improved handle and jumper was on full display as Jakarr took on all comers in the one-on-one and two-on-two sections of the day. Sampson scored at will on anybody that got in his way and played with a tremendous amount of confidence. He can take it to the rack, knock down floaters, finish above the rim with authority or knock down a jumper. His versatility on the offensive end is a huge plus.
Jakarr Sampson says his current favorites are St. John�s, Xavier, USC and Baylor while Louisville, Michigan State, Ohio State, Cincinnati, Dayton and Akron are also in the picture. The fast-rising wing is trying to visit USC, Baylor and Louisville in the near future.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/980815.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/980815.html)
I love that we still remain amongst Sampson's top four schools. Hopefully, we can eventually seal the deal. He seems to be having a very, solid AAU season.
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Northstar Basketball NBPA reports:
http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/06/27/nbpa-top-100-camp-cavs--celtics-scouting-reports.aspx (http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/06/27/nbpa-top-100-camp-cavs--celtics-scouting-reports.aspx)
JaKarr Sampson ’11, SF, St. Vincent-St. Mary (OH)
Height & Weight: 6’6.5, 193
Wingspan & Reach: 6’11, 8’8
PPG & High: 10.2, 27
While at NBPA Top 100 Camp, JaKarr Sampson showed why his stock has increased this spring. He has phenomenal length and versatility, and looks more like 6'8 in sneakers, whether or not that is the case. Sampson could use a few more pounds, but is active around the rim at both ends of the floor. He can handle the rock a bit, and is also an effective scorer. Sampson's 27 points in his final game tied for the high total in a game all week.
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http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1102321 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1102321)
Jakarr Sampson - Sampson has been great all summer to date, but he did have his struggles on Monday. Still the highly touted 2011 combo forward was good with a few buckets off of strong right hand drives and he hit the glass to boot. Also Sampson showed his range out to 18 feet, though his bread and butter is clearly 10 feet and in. He needs to be a bigger impact player on the defensive end where he could be special, but still he was more than solid for his squad.
Drawing a huge crowd of coaches was Jakarr Sampson. He had head coaches from Louisville and Washington in the gym with assistants from Cincinnati, Xavier, Dayton, UCLA, Kansas, St. John's, Miami-Florida, Notre Dame, and South Florida also watching.
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Jakarr Sampson - His matchup with Dawson is one to really remember. Like Dawson, Sampson also had 21 points, and several of them came on ridiculously athletic dunks. Outside of just dunking, Sampson is proving to be simply unguardable at times. His ball handling is very good, and now he is going left along with power drives to the right. He uses the bounce to get a little bit of space, and then with his long arms, high release, and leaping ability he simply rises above defenders and makes shots. When he is doing that in the mid-range, you can forget about it because it makes him impossible to stop.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103491 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103491)
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Jakarr Sampson - The small forward just keeps on getting better and better. He was great during June, and that has kept on going through July. While his team struggled against the CP3 All-Stars, Sampson did not. His pull up jump shot is becoming a major weapon, and of course the athleticism is simply tough to match. Sampson also showed an ability to drive some to his left, which he hasn't done in the past. He scored over 20 in a big loss, and really was the only bright spot for his team.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1105970 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1105970)
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JaKarr Sampson, 2011, SF, 6’7, St. Vincent-St. Mary (OH), King James Shooting Stars-
Sampson’s team was rocked by the CP3 All-Stars, but he was the best player on the floor and it really was not all that close. A versatile player who can play the one through the four, Sampson played a lot of point guard for King James, skillfully bringing the ball up the floor, surveying the floor, and usually attacking the basket off the bounce. With his height and handles, Sampson is tough for anyone to cover. Sampson projects as a three at the next level due to his length and versatility.
http://www.flagrantfouls.com/2010/07/aau-super-showcase-rundown-23rd-and-24th/ (http://www.flagrantfouls.com/2010/07/aau-super-showcase-rundown-23rd-and-24th/)
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After a long month on the AAU circuit, JaKarr Sampson has a list of his Top 3 schools going forward.
“Baylor, Kansas and St. John’s,†the 6-foot-8, 193-pound forward from Akron (Ohio) St. Vincent-St. Mary said Sunday night.
Sampson is still considering other schools, including Xavier, Dayton, Louisville, Cincinnati, Michigan State, Ohio State and Miami.
“I’m gonna try and cut that list down and take five official visits,†Sampson said.
But at this point it looks like Baylor, Kansas and St. John’s will likely get visits.
Of the Big East school, he said: “I would say St. John’s is in my top three. I really like St. John’s, actually. It will fit my playing style. They’re rebuilding their program.â€
Sampson attended St. John’s skills and development camp in June, along with his mother, Dawnett Sampson, and said he’s seriously considering the Johnnies.
Steve Lavin’s staff has 10 scholarships to give for 2011 and Sampson is one of several elite players they are targeting, along with 6-8 Norvel Pelle, the No. 4 center in the Class out of Compton (Calif.).
“I like his playing style,†Sampson said of Pelle. “If he [Lavin] can get him down there that would be a nice recruiting class.â€
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/02/jakarr-sampson-has-a-top-3/#more-37651 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/02/jakarr-sampson-has-a-top-3/#more-37651)
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Seems his AAU coach has refuted a top 3 list....
[tweet]http://twitter.com/EvanDanielscout/status/20147620782[/tweet]
[tweet]http://twitter.com/EvanDanielscout/status/20147658714[/tweet]
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More on Sampson:
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/02/sampson_remains_open_to_handful_of_schools,_preps_for_global_challenge (http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/02/sampson_remains_open_to_handful_of_schools,_preps_for_global_challenge)
Anyone seen him play?
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A response:
AdamZagoria: Don Anderson, JaKarr Sampson's AAU coach, just told me Sampson will "for sure" visit Baylor, St. John's, Louisville & Kansas with one TBD.
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More on Sampson:
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/02/sampson_remains_open_to_handful_of_schools,_preps_for_global_challenge (http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/02/sampson_remains_open_to_handful_of_schools,_preps_for_global_challenge)
Anyone seen him play?
I haven't seen him play, but I've read how well he's been playing throughout the summer. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the top 20 when Rivals and Scout comes out with their post-summer rankings.
Maybe, Sampson didn't exactly say he has a top 3 list. But, he probably mentioned those schools (St. John's, Baylor and Kansas), as the ones who stand out at the moment.
I guess Anderson hadn't conversed with Sampson and wanted the list ran by him before commenting on it.
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I think Sampson likes St. John's:
@jeffborzello Jakarr Sampson: "If I did have a top 3, St. John's would be number one."
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I think Sampson likes St. John's:
@jeffborzello Jakarr Sampson: "If I did have a top 3, St. John's would be number one."
I stumbled upon that supposed quote by reading this assumption.... [tweet]http://twitter.com/CHJournal/status/20141958922[/tweet]
I wonder how much truth there is to that supposed quote by Sampson. [tweet] http://twitter.com/ECoastBias/status/20158735130 (http://twitter.com/ECoastBias/status/20158735130)[/tweet]
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More on Sampson:
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/02/sampson_remains_open_to_handful_of_schools,_preps_for_global_challenge (http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/02/sampson_remains_open_to_handful_of_schools,_preps_for_global_challenge)
Anyone seen him play?
Yes, I've seen him at multiple events, beginning with the King James in April. He plays for LeBron's former high school and his current AAU team. A thin, but athletic hybrid forward, who will probably have to play the three at the next level. Played the 4 for St.V/St.M, but changed it up depending upon the setting and opponent
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Yes, I've seen him at multiple events, beginning with the King James in April. He plays for LeBron's former high school and his current AAU team. A thin, but athletic hybrid forward, who will probably have to play the three at the next level. Played the 4 for St.V/St.M, but changed it up depending upon the setting and opponent
And what are the academic problems (I think you mentioned this in another thread, but I don't see it right now)?
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Yes, I've seen him at multiple events, beginning with the King James in April. He plays for LeBron's former high school and his current AAU team. A thin, but athletic hybrid forward, who will probably have to play the three at the next level. Played the 4 for St.V/St.M, but changed it up depending upon the setting and opponent
And what are the academic problems (I think you mentioned this in another thread, but I don't see it right now)?
He needs to raise his core scores in order to meet the NCAA minimum, according to someone close to him. The person felt that, if he signed with someone early, that the program he committed to could frankly help him get qualified, so to speak.
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whoa...
[tweet]http://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/20157845269[/tweet]
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Per Jeff Borzello.... Pretty much more of what we heard from a couple of days ago. It also seems like (according, to Sampson's AAU coach) he's in good academic standing.
LeBron James was not the only the St. Vincent-St. Mary product with a big decision on his hands lately.
Rising senior Jakarr Sampson, from the same high school as James, has seen his recruitment expand as he shoots up the national rankings, but he could be closer to narrowing his school list.
Despite that, a report Monday morning claiming that Sampson had named three favorites is false, according to Sampson and his AAU coach with the King James Shooting Stars, Donald Anderson.
http://marchmadness.collegehoopsnet.com/2010/08/sampson-favoring-st-johns.html (http://marchmadness.collegehoopsnet.com/2010/08/sampson-favoring-st-johns.html)
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Forward Jakarr Sampson had a solid game scoring 10 points, grabbing seven rebounds and dishing out four assists to zero turnovers.
Jakarr Sampson is down to six schools- Tennessee, St. John's, Louisville, Baylor, Kansas and Michigan State.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1110494 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1110494)
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JaKarr Sampson of St. Vincent-St. Mary visited Brewster (N.H.) Academy on Sunday and is considering spending his senior year there, according to Don Anderson, his AAU coach. Anderson said Sampson’s current college list includes St. John’s, Tennessee, Kansas, Baylor and Louisville and added that “Marquette may be joining the party because Michigan State is out.â€â€¦
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/15/kadeem-jack-has-a-top-four/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/15/kadeem-jack-has-a-top-four/)
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http://web.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100817&content_id=13548176&oid=2&vkey=21 (http://web.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100817&content_id=13548176&oid=2&vkey=21)
St. John's is involved with numerous top prospects in the Class of 2011, including ..... No. 37 JaKarr Sampson of Akron, Ohio
Said Sampson: "I would say St. John's is in my top three. I really like St. John's, actually.
It will fit my playing style. They're rebuilding their program."
But not new. After reading back, realized its repeating a quote that Zags posted 2 weeks ago
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http://highschoolsports.cleveland.com/news/article/-7823762485261239516/basketball-standout-jakarr-sampson-leaves-st-vincent-st-mary/ (http://highschoolsports.cleveland.com/news/article/-7823762485261239516/basketball-standout-jakarr-sampson-leaves-st-vincent-st-mary/)
St. Vincent-St. Mary forward JaKarr Sampson, who is being recruited by several major collegiate basketball programs, has left the school.
SVSM Athletic Director Andy Jalwan confirmed the move by the 6-8 forward, who is expected to transfer to Brewster Academy, in Wolfeboro, R.I.
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http://highschoolsports.cleveland.com/news/article/-7823762485261239516/basketball-standout-jakarr-sampson-leaves-st-vincent-st-mary/ (http://highschoolsports.cleveland.com/news/article/-7823762485261239516/basketball-standout-jakarr-sampson-leaves-st-vincent-st-mary/)
St. Vincent-St. Mary forward JaKarr Sampson, who is being recruited by several major collegiate basketball programs, has left the school.
SVSM Athletic Director Andy Jalwan confirmed the move by the 6-8 forward, who is expected to transfer to Brewster Academy, in Wolfeboro, R.I.
He's going to be playing with fellow St. John's recruit Naadir Tharpe, Markus Kennedy (Nova), Kyrie Irving's friend Eli Carter, Durand Johnson (Pitt), and Ge-Lawn Guyn (Cincy) and they think it will help him academically get qualified...same school that narrowly got Will Barton eligible for Memphis this year.
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JaKarr Sampson is headed to Brewster (N.H.) Academy and his old coach isn’t too happy about it.
The 6-foot-8, 193-pound forward had spent the previous three years at Akron (Ohio) St. Vincent-St. Mary, LeBron James’ alma mater.
But after visiting national powerhouse Brewster Aug. 15, Sampson elected to spend his senior year there, joining a loaded team that will also include big man Markus Kennedy and guards Naadir Tharpe and Elijah Carter.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/27/sampson-to-brewster-coaches-charges-recruiting/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/27/sampson-to-brewster-coaches-charges-recruiting/)
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Really nice article with quotes from Sampson's mother about his grades and what the Xavier connection is: http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/27/sampson%E2%80%99s_mother_takes_sole_responsibility_for_move_to_brewster_academy (http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/27/sampson%E2%80%99s_mother_takes_sole_responsibility_for_move_to_brewster_academy)
Granted, I know the truth is probably slightly more shady than this, but his mom is working to get him eligible. Kudos on her trying to get her son more focused.
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Sampson's mother speaks....
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/27/sampson (http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/27/sampson)’s_mother_takes_sole_responsibility_for_move_to_brewster_academy
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Per Brian Snow of Rivals.... "Jakarr Sampson will take an unofficial to Tennessee tomorrow per AAU Coach Don Anderson"
[tweet]http://twitter.com/BSnowRivals/status/23270408187[/tweet]
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Would really like him to come to campus with Tharpe and maybe a little visit from Harkless.
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found by Moose on Redmen.com
from Brian snow Rivals twitter:
http://twitter.com/BSnowRivals/statuses/24021583891 (http://twitter.com/BSnowRivals/statuses/24021583891)
"A decision could be going down soon for Jakarr Sampson"
doesnt sound good, a day after he visited Tennessee
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Per Jeff Borzello.... "Both JaKarr Sampson and his AAU coach, Don Anderson, say that there will be no college decision made today."
[tweet]http://twitter.com/jeffborzello/statuses/24024146341[/tweet]
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Per Zagsblog....
JaKarr Sampson enjoyed his unofficial visit to Tennessee Wednesday and is now considering four schools.
“He’s considering Tennessee, Baylor, St. John’s and he’s still looking at Kansas,†Don Anderson, Sampson’s AAU coach, said Thursday by phone. “Four schools pretty much.â€
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/09/sampson-enjoys-ut-visit-mulling-4-schools/#more-39430 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/09/sampson-enjoys-ut-visit-mulling-4-schools/#more-39430)
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/09/sampson-enjoys-ut-visit-mulling-4-schools/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/09/sampson-enjoys-ut-visit-mulling-4-schools/)
Anderson said the 6-foot-8, 193-pound Sampson had hoped to take another swing through St. John’s Friday en route to Brewster but doubts it can happen.
Sampson said he still plans on taking an official to St. John’s after taking an unofficial earlier this summer.
“I know I’m going to visit St. John’s,†Sampson said by phone. “My mom and coach Don haven’t set a date yet. That would be official.â€
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Per Scout via Neal Nieves.... It seems, according to Sampson's AAU coach, he'll be making a decision in less than a month.
On a when he will make decision, His AAU coach Don Anderson said this.
“It’ll be less than a month,†Anderson told Scout.com. “I believe it’ll be less than a month.â€
http://coast2coastrecruiting.net/2010/09/sampson-likes-4/ (http://coast2coastrecruiting.net/2010/09/sampson-likes-4/)
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Hopefully Lavin can sell this kid on coming here. Can just imagine not the matchup problems we could cause with guys like Sampson, Harkless and Polee.
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Its a little scary that his camp is saying he will decide within the month after he just visited Tennessee but hopefully he does come here for an official before he makes up his mind. I think all Lavin needs is a few hours with this kid and we will be his favorite again if we aren't right now.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5552505 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5552505)
Don't worry about Tennessee ;)
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storm clouds over bruce pearl again........gosh what a surprise :knuppel2:
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from a thread on rivals recruiting board, a poster says he knows the Sampson family and Jakarr won't quailify. Just passing that along don't know if it is true. The thread started a few days ago and said Tenn. was the leader.
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from a thread on rivals recruiting board, a poster says he knows the Sampson family and Jakarr won't quailify. Just passing that along don't know if it is true. The thread started a few days ago and said Tenn. was the leader.
I'd take anything said on the Rivals boards with a grain of salt. It's chalk full of homerism. Yes Sampson has some academic question marks but thats a big factor in him going to prep school. To get that straightened out.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/11/sampson-still-considering-tennessee/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/11/sampson-still-considering-tennessee/)
Despite the NCAA investigation into Tennessee, star forward JaKarr Sampson is still considering the Volunteers.
“JaKarr and his mother say that people are human and subject to mess up from time to time,†said Don Anderson, Sampson’s AAU coach.
“Coach [Bruce] Pearl and his staff are good people.â€
He added: “To us, Coach Pearl is is a good guy regardless of what happened and Tennessee is still in good shape. It has no bearing on his decision.â€
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I understand what they are saying but theres no way that this doesn't hurt the Vols chances with Jakarr. He may very well still be considering them but it will definitely be a factor some way in his decision and this really helps because if he was 50-50 I think this would tilt him in our direction.
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http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1124675 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1124675)
Sampson's AAU coach Don Anderson, who spoke by telephone at LaGuardia Airport (Queens, N.Y.) en route to Brewster Academy (N.H.) with Sampson, said that Sampson chose the four squads because of "the coaching staff, the school side [and] the logistics of the school side . . ." Anderson added that Sampson was also looking for "the smaller environment, but a big experience."
"My mom and me really built a good relationship with the coaching staff and they seem like real cool guys," said Sampson. "It seemed like I could stay with them for four years. My mom really liked the coaching staff and we liked the small school, but big-time basketball."
"Lavin has put together unique recruitment to bring back St. John's basketball," noted Anderson.
"I've always liked St. John's back in the day - in the Walter Berry days," Anderson mentioned. "And, it's New York! What better place to revive a basketball program than New York."
"That's another reason why [St. John's was part of the four remaining schools on the list] - playing at Madison Square Garden," said Sampson. "That's one of the biggest arenas in the NBA. So, that's real big regarding the New York atmosphere and everything. So, I'm looking forward . . . you know."
"If I'd known we had this much time at the airport, I definitely would have went to St. John's," chuckled Anderson about the two-hour layover. "We would have went to St. John's today. We would have stopped off and reached out to Coach Lavin today."
As for Sampson making his final decision, Anderson admitted that he "has a feeling it's coming soon."
"I don't have a date," said Sampson. "I'm just going to take my time and make the right decision."
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This sounds VERY positive....crossing my fingers...
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Excellent news. He has a lot of work to do in the classroom, but I believe he is an NBA player and could play his way into the McDonalds game.
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He Will qualify and from a VERY good source he will be at SJU.
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He Will qualify and from a VERY good source he will be at SJU.
manbearpig lieks this
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He Will qualify and from a VERY good source he will be at SJU.
Peter likes this too!
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He Will qualify and from a VERY good source he will be at SJU.
Moose likes this too.
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Rickey Henderson likes everyone talking in the 3rd person and Dave loves this news.
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He Will qualify and from a VERY good source he will be at SJU.
KJD loves this news
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Great news!
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Terrific news!
Wonder if it makes it more likely for his future teammate Tharpe to be coming along to SJU also.
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Oh crap, going to announce his decision today at 5 pm on ESPNU
(According to Brewster Hoops Tweet ... not sure how to put that in here)
[tweet]BrewsterHoops Brewster's JaKarr Sampson will announce his college decision today at 5pm on ESPNU. Finalists: Baylor, Louisville, St. John's, and Tennessee[/tweet]
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Why is that bad news?
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Why is that bad news?
Not bad news at all ... I hope. Just more of a shock to see that pop up on my twitter, going to sit here a little nervous now until the news comes granted I'm very confident.
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This seems to be great news because SJU79 just said a few days ago he heard from a good source he'd be here and now he's announcing all of a sudden. I will also be really nervous until later because it seems he is ours to lose so that makes it even more nerve racking. Our only big threat seems to be the Vols but with all their recent problems I feel good about our situation. I wonder if SJU79 has heard anymore?
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Also, a St. John's coach was up at Brewster yesterday to watch open gym. None of the other 3 teams involved coaches were there.
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This news is Halle Berry hot - Jakarr aint going to Louisville. He aint going to Baylor. And dont matter what his moms says he aint going to Tenn. LIke I posted yesterday barring a last sec change Mr. Sampson welcome to the concrete jungle.
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Awesome. Hope you're right, I trust you though!
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Also keep in mind that Harkless had a lot of visits scheduled and then decided to announce out of no where. Lavin gets things done.
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I dont know the kid, never met the kid or ever spoken to him. All I can say is Tues am got a call from a guy VERY VERY close to him saying he had chosen SJU and would announce soon. Posted what I could Tues and now this. He's a kid and could change his mind, my guy could be wrong(although HIGHLY unlikely) and I could be wrong...but I doubt it
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Great news, SJU79. Thanks for the info and keep it coming. What a start to this class if we get Sampson to pair with Harkless.
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This would be a huge signing for Lavin and the University. I hope traffic is not too bad and I make it home by 5.
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This news is Halle Berry hot - Jakarr aint going to Louisville. He aint going to Baylor. And dont matter what his moms says he aint going to Tenn. LIke I posted yesterday barring a last sec change Mr. Sampson welcome to the concrete jungle.
haha manbearpig likes the confidence. hope ur rite
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This news is Halle Berry hot - Jakarr aint going to Louisville. He aint going to Baylor. And dont matter what his moms says he aint going to Tenn. LIke I posted yesterday barring a last sec change Mr. Sampson welcome to the concrete jungle.
Keep the good news coming !
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Since he is announcing on ESPNU and the show starts at 5 and is over at 6 they will probably drag the decision out until right before 6 it seems.
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Since he is announcing on ESPNU and the show starts at 5 and is over at 6 they will probably drag the decision out until right before 6 it seems.
"Um, In next fall, man this is very tough, um, in next fall, I'm going to take my talents to South Queens, and join the St. John's Red Storm."
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Since he is announcing on ESPNU and the show starts at 5 and is over at 6 they will probably drag the decision out until right before 6 it seems.
Guarantee someone leaks the info before 6.
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I just heard that Jakarr Sampson has blocked off a set of rooms at the Holiday Inn Express in Jamaica.
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I just heard that Jakarr Sampson has blocked off a set of rooms at the Holiday Inn Express in Jamaica.
Somewhere there's a set-up and a punchline about qualifying, SAT scores, and staying at a Holiday Inn Express.
Maybe a commercial with him leading a Kaplan class.
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I just heard that Jakarr Sampson has blocked off a set of rooms at the Holiday Inn Express in Jamaica.
I heard it was being catered exclusively by Double J on Union. (R.I.P. Fame)
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can anybody stream ESPNU on here so we can see the show?
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I just heard that Jakarr Sampson has blocked off a set of rooms at the Holiday Inn Express in Jamaica.
Nope, that's an old reservation. Norm made it for Jakarr's potential official visit.
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If we get him does that take us out of the running for any other wing prospects since we would have him and already have Mo Harkless?
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I just heard that Jakarr Sampson has blocked off a set of rooms at the Holiday Inn Express in Jamaica.
Nope, that's an old reservation. Norm made it for Jakarr's potential official visit.
:2funny:
Zinggggggg
Too bad Norm never heard of Jakarr Sampson 8)
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If we get him does that take us out of the running for any other wing prospects since we would have him and already have Mo Harkless?
This is purely just my opinion but I think we'd focus our attention on one more wing (Amir Garret), one PG (Tharpe), and use 2-3 scholarships on big men. I think there will be a few scholarships held over for 2012 guys Omar Calhoun (SG), Jevon Thomas (PG), Kyle Anderson (PG/SG/SF).
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I hope they show the announcement soon I can't take much more of this college football garbage.
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I agree this college football stuff is brutal. They keep mentioning Tennessee and Jakarr at the same time which is making me nervous for no good reason.
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I have ESPNU and yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we got him!!!!!!
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Saint John's
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YESSSS! Jakarr is a Johnny. Lavin is the man
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That was nerve racking but that made it all worth it. Seems like a good kid and I think he made an excellent decision. Man this is just unreal after what we have been through the last few years.
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I saw the broadcast but couldn't hear. Can anyone transcribe what was said?
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welcome to NY!!!!!!!
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F yea!!!
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Move on Kyra Sedgwick, Steve Lavin IS "The Closer."
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He just said he heard SJU was good back in the day and he wants to bring that back. He also said that he didn't want to go to a big school and that SJU was a good fit because it was smaller but had a big time basketball program.
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Espn already has an article up!
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5580112 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5580112)
As does Zags
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/16/jakarr-sampson-to-st-johns/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/16/jakarr-sampson-to-st-johns/)
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Great, Great Get...
Welcome Aboard Jakarr!
Well done Steve, keep the momentum going
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If I'm a true point guard, I'd be calling Steve Lavin right now to ask to play with Sampson and Harkless..
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Im not saying this in a negative way at all but does Sampsons commitment put us out of the running for Pointer and Harris because they are both SFs. Just asking because I don't know college recruiting well enough to know.
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Im not saying this in a negative way at all but does Sampsons commitment put us out of the running for Pointer and Harris because they are both SFs. Just asking because I don't know college recruiting well enough to know.
It's actually Harrison, but, no, he's a 6'3" scoring guard. Harkless is a 3 and Sampson has played both the 4 and the 3 in hs & AAU, but projects more as a traditional 3 or, if he adds a lot of strength, a face-up 4 in college.
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Im not saying this in a negative way at all but does Sampsons commitment put us out of the running for Pointer and Harris because they are both SFs. Just asking because I don't know college recruiting well enough to know.
It's actually Harrison, but, no, he's a 6'3" scoring guard. Harkless is a 3 and Sampson has played both the 4 and the 3 in hs & AAU, but projects more as a traditional 3 or, if he adds a lot of strength, a face-up 4 in college.
Harrison sees himself as a straightup point. I can't really argue with him because he reminds me of Scottie Reynolds. His recruitment will only be helped by the addition of Sampson.
I have to disagree with you on Sampson being a face up four, though. I definitely see where you could get that. I think he'll be a beast physically--probably 225 by his soph year. He attacks the rim so well from the perimeter and he'l be a great complement to Harkless' shooting. I think he could play four if we're running, but I think he will be an NBA SF.
With that written, I'd love to still add Pointer or Garrett. They both have awesome lateral quickness--and as much as I love Harkless and Sampson--they both appear to be a bit heavy in the feet defensively.
Harrison is #1 on my wish list.
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It's actually Harrison, but, no, he's a 6'3" scoring guard. Harkless is a 3 and Sampson has played both the 4 and the 3 in hs & AAU, but projects more as a traditional 3 or, if he adds a lot of strength, a face-up 4 in college.
I was talking about Tyler Harris and Dom Pointer because we are in the top 5 for Harris and top 3 for Pointer. I didn't even include Harrison because I figured he won't really be affected.
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Im not saying this in a negative way at all but does Sampsons commitment put us out of the running for Pointer and Harris because they are both SFs. Just asking because I don't know college recruiting well enough to know.
It's actually Harrison, but, no, he's a 6'3" scoring guard. Harkless is a 3 and Sampson has played both the 4 and the 3 in hs & AAU, but projects more as a traditional 3 or, if he adds a lot of strength, a face-up 4 in college.
Summed up perfectly, Sleaveless One. Quite frankly, this might put us in a better position to land Harrison. He may like the idea of playing with quality players, who have the potential to win and win big.
By the way.... Good source, SJU79. ;)
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Im not saying this in a negative way at all but does Sampsons commitment put us out of the running for Pointer and Harris because they are both SFs. Just asking because I don't know college recruiting well enough to know.
It's actually Harrison, but, no, he's a 6'3" scoring guard. Harkless is a 3 and Sampson has played both the 4 and the 3 in hs & AAU, but projects more as a traditional 3 or, if he adds a lot of strength, a face-up 4 in college.
Harrison sees himself as a straightup point. I can't really argue with him because he reminds me of Scottie Reynolds. His recruitment will only be helped by the addition of Sampson.
I have to disagree with you on Sampson being a face up four, though. I definitely see where you could get that. I think he'll be a beast physically--probably 225 by his soph year. He attacks the rim so well from the perimeter and he'l be a great complement to Harkless' shooting. I think he could play four if we're running, but I think he will be an NBA SF.
With that written, I'd love to still add Pointer or Garrett. They both have awesome lateral quickness--and as much as I love Harkless and Sampson--they both appear to be a bit heavy in the feet defensively.
Harrison is #1 on my wish list.
Sampson may be able to occasionally play some 4 in college. Here is what NBE had to say about Sampson....
24) JaKarr Sampson ¨C SF/6¡ä7/St. Vincent-St. Mary/OH (uncommitted): Versatile enough to play the one, three and four, he has a superb handle, rebounds the ball and attacks the basket well
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0916/nbe-post-summer-class-of-2011-top-50/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0916/nbe-post-summer-class-of-2011-top-50/)
Per ESPN Recruiting....
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/96497/jakarr-sampson (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/96497/jakarr-sampson)
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Im not saying this in a negative way at all but does Sampsons commitment put us out of the running for Pointer and Harris because they are both SFs. Just asking because I don't know college recruiting well enough to know.
It's actually Harrison, but, no, he's a 6'3" scoring guard. Harkless is a 3 and Sampson has played both the 4 and the 3 in hs & AAU, but projects more as a traditional 3 or, if he adds a lot of strength, a face-up 4 in college.
Harrison sees himself as a straightup point. I can't really argue with him because he reminds me of Scottie Reynolds. His recruitment will only be helped by the addition of Sampson.
I have to disagree with you on Sampson being a face up four, though. I definitely see where you could get that. I think he'll be a beast physically--probably 225 by his soph year. He attacks the rim so well from the perimeter and he'l be a great complement to Harkless' shooting. I think he could play four if we're running, but I think he will be an NBA SF.
With that written, I'd love to still add Pointer or Garrett. They both have awesome lateral quickness--and as much as I love Harkless and Sampson--they both appear to be a bit heavy in the feet defensively.
Harrison is #1 on my wish list.
If I was unclear, I view him as a 3. If he or Lavin wants him to be a long-term face-up four, he's going to have to add a lot of upper-body strength.
Sampson was a match-up problem for 4s on the AAU level with his athleticism and 3s with his size and inside/out game, but I think he's just scratched the surface of his potential.
As for Harrison, my only concern about him was his defensive effort. Offensively, he was able to stand out, both off the catch and the dribble, and be his own man on a team with a future pro in LeBryan Nash. Locally, these guys try to build up Mike Taylor, but, hands down, this kid was better.
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Im not saying this in a negative way at all but does Sampsons commitment put us out of the running for Pointer and Harris because they are both SFs. Just asking because I don't know college recruiting well enough to know.
It's actually Harrison, but, no, he's a 6'3" scoring guard. Harkless is a 3 and Sampson has played both the 4 and the 3 in hs & AAU, but projects more as a traditional 3 or, if he adds a lot of strength, a face-up 4 in college.
Harrison and Harris are 2 different players. D'Angelo Harrison is a SG from Texas and Tyler Harris is a SF from Dix Hills, NY just for clarification
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I haven't seen him play but those few videos but it sounds like he might be able to play the 4 at the college level and then move to the 3 at the next level once he improves his outside shot, tightens his handle.
I'd guess this takes us out of the running for Tyler Harris which I personally don't have a problem with.
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Looks like Jakarr is already helping recruit some more players for us.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/16/jakarr-sampson-to-st-johns/#more-39705 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/16/jakarr-sampson-to-st-johns/#more-39705)
Sampson said he’s working on having Brewster teammate Naadir Tharpe, a point guard, and Deuce Bello, a shooting guard from Westchester (N.C.) Country Day, join him.
“Deuce Bello texted me,†Sampson said by phone. “I’m gonna try and get him up there. My dude Naadir, I’m gonna try and get him to come.â€
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Wow!! Weclocme aboard.....man how things have changed!!! I am soooo excited for the season to start!
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There are 10 schollies available. One recruit doesn't take us out of the running for much pf anything; it just makes the sales pitch different. Some players want to know they'll get time, even if they don't start.
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My name is Dan Martin and I am a contributor to JohnnyJungle in the "Over the Airwaves" segment. I just wrote an article on Sampson. Check it out at On Air: The Official Blog of WSJU Sports ---> http://wp.me/pUOir-85 (http://wp.me/pUOir-85)
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As a younger fan, this is the first time I can really remember being excited about the team.
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My name is Dan Martin, I am a contributing columnist here on JohnnyJungle and a co-Sports Director at WSJU Radio, the official radio station of St. John's University. Check out my article on Sampson and what he means for St. John's
http://wsjusportsguys.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/jakarr-sampson-becomes-second-to-step-aboard-lavins-ark/ (http://wsjusportsguys.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/jakarr-sampson-becomes-second-to-step-aboard-lavins-ark/)
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he is a five star on scout, number 23 overall i believe
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Welcome Jakarr.
WOW Lavin is getting it done.
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Bienvenido, Jakarr.
Excellent job by Coach Lavin.
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Welcome Mr. Sampson.
Great start to recruiting...who's next?
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Great get...when I see Steve Lavin on campus I'm gonna walk to him shake his hand and say you're the man.
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HERE IT IS an Johnny Jungle EXCLUSIVE. The 1st interview with the newest member of the St. John's Red Storm family JaKarr Sampson >>> http://bit.ly/asMA1U (http://bit.ly/asMA1U)
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Nice interview. Keep it up!
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In NBA 2K11 they have downloadable draft classes, and in the 2013 Draft Jakarr Sampson was a consensus top 5 pick. I took him first overall and dominate with him on my Knicks franchise. :)
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^ that's really amazing
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A blurb on Sampson and the upcoming season at Brewster....
Jakarr Sampson headed east as well and will give Smith an NBA talent at the forward spot. Sampson should improve immensely and add to a physical package that screams NBA potential. “His upside is really unlimited,” says Smith, “he’s excellent in transition obviously and he’s been getting the daily reps on the shooting machine since he got here.” Sampson of course is one of the fantastic pieces in new St. John’s coach Steve Lavins already loaded 2011 class.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-1026/nepsac-power-brewster-academy-stacked-again/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-1026/nepsac-power-brewster-academy-stacked-again/)
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[tweet]http://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/1476795878608896[/tweet]
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2599/page/onthetrail/class/2011 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2599/page/onthetrail/class/2011)
St. John's recruit and ESPNU 100 prospect Jakarr Sampson scored 16 points on 7-of-11 shooting and added 11 rebounds and six blocked shots on Sunday in Brewster Academy's 89-67 win over Princeton Day Academy (Md.) at the National Prep Showcase
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TAKEN FROM TWITTER
Draft Express (http://twitter.com/DraftExpress):
Jakarr Sampson finished w/16 pts, 11 rbs, 6 blks. Kansas commit Naadir Tharpe was solid: 12 pts, 8 rbs, 10 ass, 5 TOs, 3 stls. #prepshowcase
10:31 AM Nov 21st via ÜberTwitter
Jakarr Sampson is a new-age 3/4 w/superb length & athleticism who can switch on everything & fills up the entire stat-sheet. #prepshowcase
9:49 AM Nov 21st via ÜberTwitter
Jakarr Sampson is not interested or really capable of being a big-time scorer, but he's an incredible asset to have on defense #prepshowcase
9:46 AM Nov 21st via ÜberTwitter
St. John's commit Jakarr Sampson on his way to a triple double in 1st half of last day of the National #PrepShowcase : 4 pts, 6 rbs, 5 blks
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Everyone I talked to who was at Prep Showcase said similar things. He's super long, lanky, and athletic. Everyone says he's going to be a defensive nightmare.
His offensive game isn't polished from the outside and he's more a hustle point player right now.
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On a certain level, this is a good thing - passing and defense will be badly needed on next year's squad.
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On a certain level, this is a good thing - passing and defense will be badly needed on next year's squad.
He's a very unselfish player. Almost to a fault.
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Per Dave Telep (ESPN Recruiting)....
Sampson was one of the top performers at the National Prep Showcase, according to Telep.
Jakarr Sampson (Akron, Ohio/Brewster)
2011, SF, 6-8, 200 pounds
He's heading home for the holiday break feeling good about his play. Sampson posted a double-double in his second game, a marked improvement both in production and energy from his first outing. The best way to describe his game begins with a discussion on his elite athleticism and closes with his propensity to stuff the stat sheet. The owner of an infectious smile, it won't take long for him to endear himself to the Red Storm fans.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5838184 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5838184)
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Jakarr Sampson, 6-8, SF/PF, 2011, Brewster Academy
Committed to St. John's
Jonathan Givony
The most highly touted player in Steve Lavin's 2011 recruiting class at a resurging St. John's program, Jakarr Sampson (#22 Scout, #44 Rivals, #33 ESPN) showed both the good and the bad of his game this weekend in New Haven.
An incredibly long and athletic forward with prototypical physical tools for an NBA small forward, Sampson isn't terribly skilled at this point, but would be a useful player to have on any team's roster.
Sampson's best attributes as a prospect mainly revolve around his work on the defensive end. He has the lateral quickness to guard pretty much any position, and will regularly step out onto the perimeter and create havoc with his ability to put pressure on the ball. Sampson is an active, pesky defender who plays with great intensity, and likes to get his hands in all kinds of places to come up with extra possessions for his team. He has excellent timing getting in the passing lanes and rotating for blocked shots from the weak side, and has a knack for coming up with rebounds, particularly on the offensive glass.
Offensively, Sampson is still a work in progress, and seems to have both the skill-set and mentality of a complimentary player, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. He can handle the ball in transition a bit and will get to the rim on occasion thanks to his quick first step, but isn't much of a shot-creator and lacks the strength and footwork to take advantage of his superior size in mismatch situations in the post. To reach his full potential as a prospect, he'll need to improve on his perimeter shooting ability, starting with his shooting mechanics, which aren't very good. Sampson's experience level and overall feel for the game isn't off charts, but he's more than willing to make the extra pass and appears to be an excellent teammate.
Despite Sampson's lofty recruiting rankings, St. John's fans shouldn't look at him as being any kind of savior, as he's more of a terrific role player than a true go-to guy and might need some time to get his feet wet in the college game. Nevertheless, Sampson has considerable upside thanks to his physical tools and versatility, and could emerge as a very interesting prospect down the road if he continues to improve his all-around polish.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2010-National-Prep-Showcase-Elite-2011-Prospects-3584/#ixzz16Pr4nKVc (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2010-National-Prep-Showcase-Elite-2011-Prospects-3584/#ixzz16Pr4nKVc)
http://www.draftexpress.com (http://www.draftexpress.com)
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A couple of videos on Sampson....
Brewster Academy Vs Robinson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNuqYwOoIUA&feature=player_embedded#ws)
Brewster Academy Vs. Holderness 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VJ0fb8LOiI&feature=player_embedded#ws)
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Sampson opens up the video by dancing and clowning around....
Brewster Academy vs Rise Academy 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOqoi7XwN7g#ws)
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brewster could beat us they look awesome their guards woud run around us and there bigger than we are. Jakar looks like he can get up quickly and i think he will be alright at the 4. he looks 2 inches taller than brownlee
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brewster could beat us they look awesome their guards woud run around us and there bigger than we are. Jakar looks like he can get up quickly and i think he will be alright at the 4. he looks 2 inches taller than brownlee
Brewster's guards don't pass ever in these videos. I see more assists from big to big than I do from the guards.
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Recently updated videos featuring Sampson....
Brewster Academy Vs. MCI 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_qMcegsAnQ#ws)
Brewster Academy Vs. Notre Dame Prep 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5hwbDMeD0A#ws)
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brewster could beat us they look awesome their guards woud run around us and there bigger than we are. Jakar looks like he can get up quickly and i think he will be alright at the 4. he looks 2 inches taller than brownlee
Brewster's guards don't pass ever in these videos. I see more assists from big to big than I do from the guards.
naadir tharpe had 10 assists in that game so they pass a bit
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brewster could beat us they look awesome their guards woud run around us and there bigger than we are. Jakar looks like he can get up quickly and i think he will be alright at the 4. he looks 2 inches taller than brownlee
Brewster's guards don't pass ever in these videos. I see more assists from big to big than I do from the guards.
naadir tharpe had 10 assists in that game so they pass a bit
I think that some posters give too much importance on the 1-2 minutes videos.
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brewster could beat us they look awesome their guards woud run around us and there bigger than we are. Jakar looks like he can get up quickly and i think he will be alright at the 4. he looks 2 inches taller than brownlee
Brewster's guards don't pass ever in these videos. I see more assists from big to big than I do from the guards.
naadir tharpe had 10 assists in that game so they pass a bit
I think that some posters give too much importance on the 1-2 minutes videos.
When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
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When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
Are you wondering, whether he's a pure point guard because you feel he looks for his shot often or missing guys open? I think Tharpe does a heckuva job knowing where and what to do with the ball when using a screen. Seems like he's been taught well.
By the way, some "pure point guards" are capable of scoring.
I like how quickly Sampson gets off the floor. Long, agile kid.
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When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
Are you wondering, whether he's a pure point guard because you feel he looks for his shot often or missing guys open? I think Tharpe does a heckuva job knowing where and what to do with the ball when using a screen. Seems like he's been taught well.
By the way, some "pure point guards" are capable of scoring.
I like how quickly Sampson gets off the floor. Long, agile kid.
It's a highlight film so almost all the shots go in, but he routinely passes up wide open teammates to take off-balance or contested shots. It's acceptable as a fifth year high school player, but it's not going to fly at Kansas.
I don't think just because a point guard has the ability to score that he is therefore not a point guard. You seem to specialize in putting words in my mouth. ;) All I'm saying is that there should be an absurd amount of alley-oops to that freak of an athlete in every video.
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When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
Are you wondering, whether he's a pure point guard because you feel he looks for his shot often or missing guys open? I think Tharpe does a heckuva job knowing where and what to do with the ball when using a screen. Seems like he's been taught well.
By the way, some "pure point guards" are capable of scoring.
I like how quickly Sampson gets off the floor. Long, agile kid.
It's a highlight film so almost all the shots go in, but he routinely passes up wide open teammates to take off-balance or contested shots. It's acceptable as a fifth year high school player, but it's not going to fly at Kansas.
I don't think just because a point guard has the ability to score that he is therefore not a point guard. You seem to specialize in putting words in my mouth. ;) All I'm saying is that there should be an absurd amount of alley-oops to that freak of an athlete in every video.
Maybe, he'll be able to play within the confines of what Kansas want. Whether, he does or not.... That is now Kansas issue.
Sometimes, it's not always easy to figure how where someone is going in their description via the internet. No offense, but you've also been known to romanticize, so maybe I have jumped the gun a time or two with you. No harm, no foul. It's all good.
The "freak of an athlete" should get his chance a few times to catch alley-oops and swat shots when he's in Queens a season from now. ;)
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When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
Are you wondering, whether he's a pure point guard because you feel he looks for his shot often or missing guys open? I think Tharpe does a heckuva job knowing where and what to do with the ball when using a screen. Seems like he's been taught well.
By the way, some "pure point guards" are capable of scoring.
I like how quickly Sampson gets off the floor. Long, agile kid.
It's a highlight film so almost all the shots go in, but he routinely passes up wide open teammates to take off-balance or contested shots. It's acceptable as a fifth year high school player, but it's not going to fly at Kansas.
I don't think just because a point guard has the ability to score that he is therefore not a point guard. You seem to specialize in putting words in my mouth. ;) All I'm saying is that there should be an absurd amount of alley-oops to that freak of an athlete in every video.
Maybe, he'll be able to play within the confines of what Kansas want. Whether, he does or not.... That is now Kansas issue.
Sometimes, it's not always easy to figure how where someone is going in their description via the internet. No offense, but you've also been known to romanticize, so maybe I have jumped the gun a time or two with you. No harm, no foul. It's all good.
The "freak of an athlete" should get his chance a few times to catch alley-oops and swat shots when he's in Queens a season from now. ;)
Look at how many looks Amir Garrett gets from Nick Johnson and Kabango. That's sort of what I'm talking about here. It's just weird that the guards pass up so many easy assists. But, hey, if it works for them....
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When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
Are you wondering, whether he's a pure point guard because you feel he looks for his shot often or missing guys open? I think Tharpe does a heckuva job knowing where and what to do with the ball when using a screen. Seems like he's been taught well.
By the way, some "pure point guards" are capable of scoring.
I like how quickly Sampson gets off the floor. Long, agile kid.
It's a highlight film so almost all the shots go in, but he routinely passes up wide open teammates to take off-balance or contested shots. It's acceptable as a fifth year high school player, but it's not going to fly at Kansas.
I don't think just because a point guard has the ability to score that he is therefore not a point guard. You seem to specialize in putting words in my mouth. ;) All I'm saying is that there should be an absurd amount of alley-oops to that freak of an athlete in every video.
Maybe, he'll be able to play within the confines of what Kansas want. Whether, he does or not.... That is now Kansas issue.
Sometimes, it's not always easy to figure how where someone is going in their description via the internet. No offense, but you've also been known to romanticize, so maybe I have jumped the gun a time or two with you. No harm, no foul. It's all good.
The "freak of an athlete" should get his chance a few times to catch alley-oops and swat shots when he's in Queens a season from now. ;)
Look at how many looks Amir Garrett gets from Nick Johnson and Kabango. That's sort of what I'm talking about here. It's just weird that the guards pass up so many easy assists. But, hey, if it works for them....
Of course Lavin is bringing in ridiculous talent, but the 1 guy I wanted was Nick Johnson. That kids game is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMpsttlXye8&feature=relateded
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When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
Are you wondering, whether he's a pure point guard because you feel he looks for his shot often or missing guys open? I think Tharpe does a heckuva job knowing where and what to do with the ball when using a screen. Seems like he's been taught well.
By the way, some "pure point guards" are capable of scoring.
I like how quickly Sampson gets off the floor. Long, agile kid.
It's a highlight film so almost all the shots go in, but he routinely passes up wide open teammates to take off-balance or contested shots. It's acceptable as a fifth year high school player, but it's not going to fly at Kansas.
I don't think just because a point guard has the ability to score that he is therefore not a point guard. You seem to specialize in putting words in my mouth. ;) All I'm saying is that there should be an absurd amount of alley-oops to that freak of an athlete in every video.
Maybe, he'll be able to play within the confines of what Kansas want. Whether, he does or not.... That is now Kansas issue.
Sometimes, it's not always easy to figure how where someone is going in their description via the internet. No offense, but you've also been known to romanticize, so maybe I have jumped the gun a time or two with you. No harm, no foul. It's all good.
The "freak of an athlete" should get his chance a few times to catch alley-oops and swat shots when he's in Queens a season from now. ;)
Marillac romanticize? Nooo.... ha ha
I think you are both probably somewhat right, but I have to agree with MJ that any amount of highlight reels cannot make up for seeing someone in a full game video. Everything is taken out of context.
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When you've seen literally twenty of the videos it paints a clearer picture. Tharpe looks for his shot in all the highlights when he has easy passes to wide open men under the basket. It seems that when Tharpe does pass he drops it off to his right. Tharpe looks really good, though. I just wonder if he's a pure point.
Are you wondering, whether he's a pure point guard because you feel he looks for his shot often or missing guys open? I think Tharpe does a heckuva job knowing where and what to do with the ball when using a screen. Seems like he's been taught well.
By the way, some "pure point guards" are capable of scoring.
I like how quickly Sampson gets off the floor. Long, agile kid.
It's a highlight film so almost all the shots go in, but he routinely passes up wide open teammates to take off-balance or contested shots. It's acceptable as a fifth year high school player, but it's not going to fly at Kansas.
I don't think just because a point guard has the ability to score that he is therefore not a point guard. You seem to specialize in putting words in my mouth. ;) All I'm saying is that there should be an absurd amount of alley-oops to that freak of an athlete in every video.
Maybe, he'll be able to play within the confines of what Kansas want. Whether, he does or not.... That is now Kansas issue.
Sometimes, it's not always easy to figure how where someone is going in their description via the internet. No offense, but you've also been known to romanticize, so maybe I have jumped the gun a time or two with you. No harm, no foul. It's all good.
The "freak of an athlete" should get his chance a few times to catch alley-oops and swat shots when he's in Queens a season from now. ;)
Marillac romanticize? Nooo.... ha ha
I think you are both probably somewhat right, but I have to agree with MJ that any amount of highlight reels cannot make up for seeing someone in a full game video. Everything is taken out of context.
Can't argue with that (or that fact that I am almost always guilty of some hyperbole), but I have seen both full game videos on Tharpe as well as highlights. I actually saw a full game video of Tharpe losing to our own Malik Stith.
I like Tharpe...he's really grown the last few years, but I don't think he's the most polished floor general. He can score his arse off, don't get me wrong, but a lot of the shots he takes will be heavily contested at the next level and I'd like to see him do more than just lay the ball off to his right at the last minute...I think Nick Johnson has more of a future at the point even though he's known as a combo, because he shows an ability to create for his teammates more than Tharpe at this point. Tharpe with a true point guard on the floor together could be a pretty potent tandem.
Marillac-fixed the quote for you-Baldi
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Brewster's most recent game (versus New Hampton)....
Brewster Academy Vs. New Hampton 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPQBQQj6OgA#ws)
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that tip in was ridiculous and the oop was even better. a couple nice quick moves in the post as well
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Sampson's (Brewster's) most recent games....
Brewster Academy vs Vermont Academy 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbh9qVweRII&feature=player_embedded#ws)
Brewster Academy vs MCI Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPaZAL1NmQ&feature=player_embedded#ws)
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Brewster improved to 17-0 with a road win at MCI, 78-71. JaKarr Sampson had 22 pts, while Eli Carter and Durand Johnson each had 15 pts.
http://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/29738242492342272 (http://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/29738242492342272)
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Brewster improved to 17-0 with a road win at MCI, 78-71. JaKarr Sampson had 22 pts, while Eli Carter and Durand Johnson each had 15 pts.
http://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/29738242492342272 (http://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/29738242492342272)
Appreciate it, gonzalo! That is probably Sampson's best output of the season, considering his team is so balanced.
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Highlights from Brewster's game versus MCI (1-24-2011)....
Brewster Academy vs MCI Game 3 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-6wz1m2CFo#ws)
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Brewster vs. Bridgton (1/26/2011)....
Brewster Academy vs. Bridgton Academy 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrxVmRy5IpM#ws)
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brewster is awesome lets keep that pipeline comming.
The more i see jakarr the more i think he could be similar to brownlee. Looks like his handle is pretty good and his athleticism is obviously hard to miss
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Brewster's last two outings....
Brewster Academy vs. Phillips Exeter Academy 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXtnG5gue1E#ws)
Brewster Academy vs. South Kent 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKif8_hT_E0#ws)
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St. John’s commitment Jakarr Sampson was named the tournament's Most Valuable Player, adding 20 points in the semifinal to carry his team into the finals.
“It is tough to beat a team three times in a year,” said Sampson. “Hopefully we build off these two wins and keep the momentum going into the playoffs.
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post?id=4990 (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post?id=4990)
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Brewster vs. Lee Academy....
Brewster Acedemy Vs. Lee Academy 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dYH-kv8aXc#ws)
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Sampson highlights....
Jakarr Sampson St. John's Bound 2010-2011 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgSarOjhKw#ws)
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Man we are getting some serious athletes next year
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He sure does dunk a lot...How's his J?
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Brewster vs. New Hampton....
Brewster Academy vs. New Hampton Game 2 2010-2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia3t4vTvI2A#ws)
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Brewster vs. Winchendon....
Brewster Academy Vs. Winchendon 2010-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA3Ks01dvYg#ws)
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He is playing with and against such a high level of competition...it's honestly much better than what Nuri is facing in COLLEGE. He seems to be getting better every month and getting involved with a higher % of his team's offense. He gets his stuff in the flow of the game and doesn't need to be the guy that demands the ball. He is just what this recruiting class needs and he's already playing with a ton of talent and with guards that dominate the ball. Our starting PF in 2011-2012, ladies and gentleman.
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you can really see how he became more and more comfortable playing the 4 as the seen progressed. I think he will contribute a great deal from the get go next year
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Jakarr Sampson St. John's signee from Ohio - Brewster Academy - King James (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNKuLy8Jv8k#)
he'll really step into Brownlees role I believe
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he looks more skilled than brownlee. i'll accept he's playing against boys while brownlee plays against men.
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he looks more skilled than brownlee. i'll accept he's playing against boys while brownlee plays against men.
NEPSAC is a pretty talented conference.
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he looks more skilled than brownlee. i'll accept he's playing against boys while brownlee plays against men.
NEPSAC is a pretty talented conference.
yea he plays against khem birch maurice harkless andre drummond probably some more too
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he looks more skilled than brownlee. i'll accept he's playing against boys while brownlee plays against men.
NEPSAC is a pretty talented conference.
I think Brewster would beat Nuri's juco by 30. The talent in the NEPSAC is just absurd right now.
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he looks more skilled than brownlee. i'll accept he's playing against boys while brownlee plays against men.
NEPSAC is a pretty talented conference.
I think Brewster would beat Nuri's juco by 30. The talent in the NEPSAC is just absurd right now.
Moose and Marillac are dead right on this. It is, by far, the toughest area to play in right now.
It beats the WCAC, Chicago Public, Southern California, North Jersey, CHSAA, Houston, etc.
Brewster alone goes 8 deep in D-I, 7 of them will be playing high-major.
By the end of the year, Angel Nunez, who went to ND Prep and is signed for Louisville, couldn't even get off the bench because of his defense.
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1885/NEPSAC-Announces-All-New-England-Selections.php (http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1885/NEPSAC-Announces-All-New-England-Selections.php)
JaKarr made first team All-New England Class AAA (the toughest class--guys on the honorable mention are headed to the Big 10 & Big East). Harkless was named second-team.
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Moose and Marillac are dead right on this. It is, by far, the toughest area to play in right now.
It beats the WCAC, Chicago Public, Southern California, North Jersey, CHSAA, Houston, etc.
Brewster alone goes 8 deep in D-I, 7 of them will be playing high-major.
By the end of the year, Angel Nunez, who went to ND Prep and is signed for Louisville, couldn't even get off the bench because of his defense.
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1885/NEPSAC-Announces-All-New-England-Selections.php (http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1885/NEPSAC-Announces-All-New-England-Selections.php)
JaKarr made first team All-New England Class AAA (the toughest class--guys on the honorable mention are headed to the Big 10 & Big East). Harkless was named second-team.
The talent in the NEPSAC was being mentioned in the game chat during the Big East Tournament. Pretty insane talent. Which is another reason why I'm high on Sampson and Harkless.
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Moose and Marillac are dead right on this. It is, by far, the toughest area to play in right now.
It beats the WCAC, Chicago Public, Southern California, North Jersey, CHSAA, Houston, etc.
Brewster alone goes 8 deep in D-I, 7 of them will be playing high-major.
By the end of the year, Angel Nunez, who went to ND Prep and is signed for Louisville, couldn't even get off the bench because of his defense.
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1885/NEPSAC-Announces-All-New-England-Selections.php (http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1885/NEPSAC-Announces-All-New-England-Selections.php)
JaKarr made first team All-New England Class AAA (the toughest class--guys on the honorable mention are headed to the Big 10 & Big East). Harkless was named second-team.
The talent in the NEPSAC was being mentioned in the game chat during the Big East Tournament. Pretty insane talent. Which is another reason why I'm high on Sampson and Harkless.
I'd love to see the top 8 teams in the NEPSAC play the 8 teams ESPN/Rise has put/concocted in their version of a "national title."
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Not promising.
http://bit.ly/fEXBuX (http://bit.ly/fEXBuX)
Sources say that St. John's recruit Jakarr Sampson will probably do another year of Prep
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Not promising.
http://bit.ly/fEXBuX (http://bit.ly/fEXBuX)
Sources say that St. John's recruit Jakarr Sampson will probably do another year of Prep
Might be a good thing because he seems to be one of the most raw out of the 2011 class.
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Not promising.
http://bit.ly/fEXBuX (http://bit.ly/fEXBuX)
Sources say that St. John's recruit Jakarr Sampson will probably do another year of Prep
I have a hunch this is eligibility related, if true. I guess this is the reason the Johnnies are pursuing Traylor AND God's Gift.
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Not promising.
http://bit.ly/fEXBuX (http://bit.ly/fEXBuX)
Sources say that St. John's recruit Jakarr Sampson will probably do another year of Prep
I have a hunch this is eligibility related, if true. I guess this is the reason the Johnnies are pursuing Traylor AND God's Gift.
It's the only thing it can be.
But a few weeks ago the article from the Ohio paper sounded like he was all qualified.
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I dont think this is worst thing in the world.
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Maybe he realized his pt would be minimal?
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Maybe he realized his pt would be minimal?
Yeah thats it Baldi ::)
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Maybe he realized his pt would be minimal?
Yeah thats it Baldi ::)
Well someone posted eligibility wasnt an issue, another saying he was the rawest of the recruits
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He does need to get stronger if he wants to be a PF. It may help us with some scholarship balance but I think it would benefit us if he came next year. I think he may need a year to adjust to college because of his strength.
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They ALL need to get stronger.
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They ALL need to get stronger.
Like a great deal of high school players. I continue to wonder why this is such a big topic when many high school players need to get stronger. That'll come in time. I'm more concerned about skill level. Quite frankly, many of our recruits have a sufficient level of skill.
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They ALL need to get stronger.
Like a great deal of high school players. I continue to wonder why this is such a big topic when many high school players need to get stronger. That'll come in time. I'm more concerned about skill level. Quite frankly, many of our recruits have a sufficient level of skill.
I think its a concern because Sampson is our second biggest recruit and he is a string bean. In every highlight he seems timid on the boards and allows himself to get pushed around and that's in prep school. He is about the size of Polee and Polee got pushed around plenty.
I agree that all high school recruits need to get stronger but not all teams have ten freshman that have to come in and play immediately. I think its more of a concern of not one player but the fact that we only have one true PF/C in Pelle. If God's Gift (or someone else with beef) comes aboard I will be less worried.
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I think its a concern because Sampson is our second biggest recruit and he is a string bean. In every highlight he seems timid on the boards and allows himself to get pushed around and that's in prep school. He is about the size of Polee and Polee got pushed around plenty.
I agree that all high school recruits need to get stronger but not all teams have ten freshman that have to come in and play immediately. I think its more of a concern of not one player but the fact that we only have one true PF/C in Pelle. If God's Gift (or someone else with beef) comes aboard I will be less worried.
I'm not sure how much high school hoops many of you watch, but there is a great deal of high school players who need to get stronger. Some form of strength will come in time. The biggest thing one needs to be concerned about is skill. It'll be easier for them to gain weight then it would be to gain skill.
I haven't really noticed him seeming to be timid on the boards in the highlights. IMO, he plays bigger than his size considering he can mix it up in the post. You can look at Sampson's shoulders and see he can put on more considerable weight than Polee. Not to mention, he has a more refined game than Polee. Some guys are able to beat players to the basket to garner rebounds due to craftiness and a will. I continue to say rebounding is more than about size. Size helps, but there is more to it than just size.
10 freshmen? The last I checked Nurideen Lindsey wasn't a freshmen. Nevertheless, look at the size of our frontline with of Burrell, Evans, Coker and Brownlee. They were built like trucks. How consistent were they when it came to rebounding? I think several of you were spooked by the Gonzaga game and all that has been echoed since that game has been size, size and size.
The size will come in time. First and foremost, the thought should be on skill level. Yes, I'd like to nab God's Gift, as he'll add some beef and be a banger. I also would be okay, if he didn't end up at St. John's.
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Per Adam Zagoria on twitter:
"Both JaKarr Sampson's AAU coach and St. John's sources say Sampson will qualify, despite a Tweet to the contrary."
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Not promising.
http://bit.ly/fEXBuX (http://bit.ly/fEXBuX)
Sources say that St. John's recruit Jakarr Sampson will probably do another year of Prep
Then, would he need to sign another National Letter of Intent?
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Per Adam Zagoria on twitter:
"Both JaKarr Sampson's AAU coach and St. John's sources say Sampson will qualify, despite a Tweet to the contrary."
I guess that nips yesterday's rumor in the bud.
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Per Adam Zagoria on twitter:
"Both JaKarr Sampson's AAU coach and St. John's sources say Sampson will qualify, despite a Tweet to the contrary."
I guess that nips yesterday's rumor in the bud.
Even more confirmation Wingate's tweet was without merit:
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/28444104 (http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/28444104)
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Even more confirmation Wingate's tweet was without merit:
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/28444104 (http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/28444104)
Thanks for the update Fordham and nice to see you over here on JJ
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That's good to hear. The kid has a skill set that not many players have at 6'8". I think we'll be good next year but a lot better the following year especially if all these guys have a year to adjust to college ball.
Moose stop spreading rumors! ;)
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That's good to hear. The kid has a skill set that not many players have at 6'8". I think we'll be good next year but a lot better the following year especially if all these guys have a year to adjust to college ball.
Moose stop spreading rumors! ;)
I wish the person who posted the tweet would admit their fault. But that's not the case with this new 'social networking journalism' world we live in.
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I think its a concern because Sampson is our second biggest recruit and he is a string bean. In every highlight he seems timid on the boards and allows himself to get pushed around and that's in prep school. He is about the size of Polee and Polee got pushed around plenty.
I agree that all high school recruits need to get stronger but not all teams have ten freshman that have to come in and play immediately. I think its more of a concern of not one player but the fact that we only have one true PF/C in Pelle. If God's Gift (or someone else with beef) comes aboard I will be less worried.
I'm not sure how much high school hoops many of you watch, but there is a great deal of high school players who need to get stronger. Some form of strength will come in time. The biggest thing one needs to be concerned about is skill. It'll be easier for them to gain weight then it would be to gain skill.
I haven't really noticed him seeming to be timid on the boards in the highlights. IMO, he plays bigger than his size considering he can mix it up in the post. You can look at Sampson's shoulders and see he can put on more considerable weight than Polee. Not to mention, he has a more refined game than Polee. Some guys are able to beat players to the basket to garner rebounds due to craftiness and a will. I continue to say rebounding is more than about size. Size helps, but there is more to it than just size.
10 freshmen? The last I checked Nurideen Lindsey wasn't a freshmen. Nevertheless, look at the size of our frontline with of Burrell, Evans, Coker and Brownlee. They were built like trucks. How consistent were they when it came to rebounding? I think several of you were spooked by the Gonzaga game and all that has been echoed since that game has been size, size and size.
The size will come in time. First and foremost, the thought should be on skill level. Yes, I'd like to nab God's Gift, as he'll add some beef and be a banger. I also would be okay, if he didn't end up at St. John's.
10 Freshman I think you're nitpicking a little. 8 on the way plus 1 with a year of JUCO experience.
Don't get me wrong I love Jakarr and this group coming in. But to say you're not concerned at all that our biggest player is listed at 200 is surprising. IMO its a legitimate concern. It's not the end all be all but it's definitely a factor. Pointer is physically ready so is Harkless and maybe even Garrett. But the bigs we will have next year are lucky to be 200 pounds soaking wet.
Jakarr Sampson 6-8/200
Dwight Meikle 6-9/185
Norvel Pelle 6-9/200
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10 Freshman I think you're nitpicking a little. 8 on the way plus 1 with a year of JUCO experience.
Don't get me wrong I love Jakarr and this group coming in. But to say you're not concerned at all that our biggest player is listed at 200 is surprising. IMO its a legitimate concern. It's not the end all be all but it's definitely a factor. Pointer is physically ready so is Harkless and maybe even Garrett. But the bigs we will have next year are lucky to be 200 pounds soaking wet.
Jakarr Sampson 6-8/200
Dwight Meikle 6-9/185
Norvel Pelle 6-9/200
Yes, I was somewhat nitpicking. Just was messing with you a bit. 8)
I'm concerned, but not to the point where it becomes a topic each and every time one of our recruits name pops up. I guess I'm more focused on their skill level than their weight. I'll continue to state the strength and weight will come along in time. Albeit, they are young these guys are more skillful than our previous frontcourt.
You think Garrett is physically ready? He's kinda slim, as well. Although, he's added some muscle this season. How many teams we're gonna have to seriously worry about when it comes to powerful frontcourts? Our truck-like frontcourt didn't stop CJ Fair from getting key offensive rebound after key offensive rebound. Yes, it would be good to add some size (God's Gift), but I'll take skill over size all day. If, you can get both all wrapped up into one then that's even better.
Gonzaga has done a number on some of y'all. LOL
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That's good to hear. The kid has a skill set that not many players have at 6'8". I think we'll be good next year but a lot better the following year especially if all these guys have a year to adjust to college ball.
Moose stop spreading rumors! ;)
I wish the person who posted the tweet would admit their fault. But that's not the case with this new 'social networking journalism' world we live in.
There would be way too much apologizing lol. I don't even read that site anymore.
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10 Freshman I think you're nitpicking a little. 8 on the way plus 1 with a year of JUCO experience.
Don't get me wrong I love Jakarr and this group coming in. But to say you're not concerned at all that our biggest player is listed at 200 is surprising. IMO its a legitimate concern. It's not the end all be all but it's definitely a factor. Pointer is physically ready so is Harkless and maybe even Garrett. But the bigs we will have next year are lucky to be 200 pounds soaking wet.
Jakarr Sampson 6-8/200
Dwight Meikle 6-9/185
Norvel Pelle 6-9/200
Yes, I was somewhat nitpicking. Just was messing with you a bit. 8)
I'm concerned, but not to the point where it becomes a topic each and every time one of our recruits name pops up. I guess I'm more focused on their skill level than their weight. I'll continue to state the strength and weight will come along in time. Albeit, they are young these guys are more skillful than our previous frontcourt.
You think Garrett is physically ready? He's kinda slim, as well. Although, he's added some muscle this season. How many teams we're gonna have to seriously worry about when it comes to powerful frontcourts? Our truck-like frontcourt didn't stop CJ Fair from getting key offensive rebound after key offensive rebound. Yes, it would be good to add some size (God's Gift), but I'll take skill over size all day. If, you can get both all wrapped up into one then that's even better.
Gonzaga has done a number on some of y'all. LOL
Why do you keep bringing up Gonzaga? I don't think I even remember seeing anyone post about how our "truck-like" front court fared against Gonzaga. I'm more worried about the Big East.
The reason why it keeps coming up is because it is the only weakness in the recruiting class...that and we may not have a "true" point guard (Personally I think we'll be fine at the point). And while I do think Garrett is physically ready to play the SF position...(how dare you say other wise :) )... I just don't think we have anyone ready to be PF or C day in and day out in the Big East. Polee specifically who has the same build as our incoming recruits got pushed around quite a bit...and I'm not talking about what these recruits will look like a few years from now (I'm sure they will be fine) I'm worried about competing next year. There were times Polee was pulled because he couldn't rebound despite his length and skill set and basketball IQ.
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Why do you keep bringing up Gonzaga? I don't think I even remember seeing anyone post about how our "truck-like" front court fared against Gonzaga. I'm more worried about the Big East.
The reason why it keeps coming up is because it is the only weakness in the recruiting class...that and we may not have a "true" point guard (Personally I think we'll be fine at the point). And while I do think Garrett is physically ready to play the SF position...(how dare you say other wise :) )... I just don't think we have anyone ready to be PF or C day in and day out in the Big East. Polee specifically who has the same build as our incoming recruits got pushed around quite a bit...and I'm not talking about what these recruits will look like a few years from now (I'm sure they will be fine) I'm worried about competing next year. There were times Polee was pulled because he couldn't rebound despite his length and skill set and basketball IQ.
Why do I continue to bring up Gonzaga? I guess you must've forgotten about some of the "spooked" posts after our game versus the 'Zags. I guess you also forgot I wondered who we're going to go up against on a consistent basis, in which we're going to have worry about a brute frontcourt.
Contrary to what you may believe, Sampson has a different build than Polee. Just take a look at Sampson's shoulders. They may have similiar strength, but they also may not have similiar strength because they are of similiar weight. I believe we will have the personnel to play on the Big East level day in and day out. Polee is lengthy, very athletic and has a good hoops IQ, but he was raw. More raw than Sampson. Sampson has better feet and some semblance of a post game, as well. I can't sit here and say, Sampson is gonna have trouble rebounding because Polee did due to them being of similiar size.
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I guess you also forgot I wondered who we're going to go up against on a consistent basis, in which we're going to have worry about a brute frontcourt.
Everyone will be bigger than us.
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I guess you also forgot I wondered who we're going to go up against on a consistent basis, in which we're going to have worry about a brute frontcourt.
Everyone will be bigger than us.
Will "everyone" be better? ;)
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I think its a concern because Sampson is our second biggest recruit and he is a string bean. In every highlight he seems timid on the boards and allows himself to get pushed around and that's in prep school. He is about the size of Polee and Polee got pushed around plenty.
I agree that all high school recruits need to get stronger but not all teams have ten freshman that have to come in and play immediately. I think its more of a concern of not one player but the fact that we only have one true PF/C in Pelle. If God's Gift (or someone else with beef) comes aboard I will be less worried.
I'm not sure how much high school hoops many of you watch, but there is a great deal of high school players who need to get stronger. Some form of strength will come in time. The biggest thing one needs to be concerned about is skill. It'll be easier for them to gain weight then it would be to gain skill.
I haven't really noticed him seeming to be timid on the boards in the highlights. IMO, he plays bigger than his size considering he can mix it up in the post. You can look at Sampson's shoulders and see he can put on more considerable weight than Polee. Not to mention, he has a more refined game than Polee. Some guys are able to beat players to the basket to garner rebounds due to craftiness and a will. I continue to say rebounding is more than about size. Size helps, but there is more to it than just size.
10 freshmen? The last I checked Nurideen Lindsey wasn't a freshmen. Nevertheless, look at the size of our frontline with of Burrell, Evans, Coker and Brownlee. They were built like trucks. How consistent were they when it came to rebounding? I think several of you were spooked by the Gonzaga game and all that has been echoed since that game has been size, size and size.
The size will come in time. First and foremost, the thought should be on skill level. Yes, I'd like to nab God's Gift, as he'll add some beef and be a banger. I also would be okay, if he didn't end up at St. John's.
10 Freshman I think you're nitpicking a little. 8 on the way plus 1 with a year of JUCO experience.
Don't get me wrong I love Jakarr and this group coming in. But to say you're not concerned at all that our biggest player is listed at 200 is surprising. IMO its a legitimate concern. It's not the end all be all but it's definitely a factor. Pointer is physically ready so is Harkless and maybe even Garrett. But the bigs we will have next year are lucky to be 200 pounds soaking wet.
Jakarr Sampson 6-8/200
Dwight Meikle 6-9/185
Norvel Pelle 6-9/200
Meikle is shorter than Burrell. more like 6'7
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The thing to remember about Gonzaga is they got rocked by a BYU squad that was the smallest team in the tournament. They started 6'6 and 6'8 up front and had no size off the bench. Their guys hit the offensive glass hard and we didn't do that all year with the roster we had. I expect thing to be different starting next year, but I still think there will be too many freshman mistakes and not enough beef/skill down low.
I have no problem with a .500 record with ten new players as long as the kids are learning and getting better. If we finish around .500 we are going to be a top 5 preseason Big East team the next season.
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Jakarr and Harkless are getting some time playing together at the Is8 Nike tournaments on the Real Scout team.
http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210335 (http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210335)
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FWIW, I spoke with his roommate and he said he's definitely going to St. John's next year.
He said he's really goofy, but has learned to become more serious on the court.
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FWIW, I spoke with his roommate and he said he's definitely going to St. John's next year.
He said he's really goofy, but has learned to become more serious on the court.
By roommate did you mean McGary?
Is he Big 10 or whatever its called now bound?
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Video of Jakarr's dunk last wknd at IS8: http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/5/25/2189913/jakarr-sampson-monster-dunk-is8 (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2011/5/25/2189913/jakarr-sampson-monster-dunk-is8)
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
Agree 100% with your assessment of Sampson, but I would love it if he hit the weight room religiously this summer and fall to get an extra 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He should probably car pool to the gym with GG and pick up a few pointers. ;)
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
Agree 100% with your assessment of Sampson, but I would love it if he hit the weight room religiously this summer and fall to get an extra 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He should probably car pool to the gym with GG and pick up a few pointers. ;)
speaking of pointers, Dom is one heck of a physical specimen. I think its pretty obvious he has NBA level athleticism and will have the strength. He will be an absolute bull on the college level.
If hes shot never comes to fruition than i could still see Dom being an elite level defensive player in the NBA. Ruben patterson esc.
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
Agree 100% with your assessment of Sampson, but I would love it if he hit the weight room religiously this summer and fall to get an extra 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He should probably car pool to the gym with GG and pick up a few pointers. ;)
speaking of pointers, Dom is one heck of a physical specimen. I think its pretty obvious he has NBA level athleticism and will have the strength. He will be an absolute bull on the college level.
If hes shot never comes to fruition than i could still see Dom being an elite level defensive player in the NBA. Ruben patterson esc.
Not to get off Sampson on his own thread, but Dom is a beast. Mo was really impressing me too the last few months until he injured his ankle. I just like how fluid Mo's game looks. He too could be a real special player for us.
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
Agree 100% with your assessment of Sampson, but I would love it if he hit the weight room religiously this summer and fall to get an extra 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He should probably car pool to the gym with GG and pick up a few pointers. ;)
speaking of pointers, Dom is one heck of a physical specimen. I think its pretty obvious he has NBA level athleticism and will have the strength. He will be an absolute bull on the college level.
If hes shot never comes to fruition than i could still see Dom being an elite level defensive player in the NBA. Ruben patterson esc.
Not to get off Sampson on his own thread, but Dom is a beast. Mo was really impressing me too the last few months until he injured his ankle. I just like how fluid Mo's game looks. He too could be a real special player for us.
Yup all three are extremely exciting. then theres garret whos a combintion of all three. At one point I would love to see a lineup of.
Harkless
Pointer
Garret
sampson
Pelle
That would be a ridiculusly long lineup that could cause havoc on the floor.
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
Agree 100% with your assessment of Sampson, but I would love it if he hit the weight room religiously this summer and fall to get an extra 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He should probably car pool to the gym with GG and pick up a few pointers. ;)
speaking of pointers, Dom is one heck of a physical specimen. I think its pretty obvious he has NBA level athleticism and will have the strength. He will be an absolute bull on the college level.
If hes shot never comes to fruition than i could still see Dom being an elite level defensive player in the NBA. Ruben patterson esc.
Not to get off Sampson on his own thread, but Dom is a beast. Mo was really impressing me too the last few months until he injured his ankle. I just like how fluid Mo's game looks. He too could be a real special player for us.
Yup all three are extremely exciting. then theres garret whos a combintion of all three. At one point I would love to see a lineup of.
Harkless
Pointer
Garret
sampson
Pelle
That would be a ridiculusly long lineup that could cause havoc on the floor.
That's the shut down defensive lineup Lavin puts in toward the end of the game to hold onto a lead in the waning seconds
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Yup all three are extremely exciting. then theres garret whos a combintion of all three. At one point I would love to see a lineup of.
Harkless
Pointer
Garret
sampson
Pelle
That would be a ridiculusly long lineup that could cause havoc on the floor.
That's the shut down defensive lineup Lavin puts in toward the end of the game to hold onto a lead in the waning seconds
You two are dreaming.... I wouldn't want those guys handling the ball against pressure defense or a press. More than likely, that would the scenario by the opposition late in the game.
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Our best guys to break the press last year was DJ and brownlee. I think these guys could handle getting the ball across the floor. I wouldnt suggest closing a close game with it however
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I guess we'll see..
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
Agree 100% with your assessment of Sampson, but I would love it if he hit the weight room religiously this summer and fall to get an extra 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He should probably car pool to the gym with GG and pick up a few pointers. ;)
speaking of pointers, Dom is one heck of a physical specimen. I think its pretty obvious he has NBA level athleticism and will have the strength. He will be an absolute bull on the college level.
If hes shot never comes to fruition than i could still see Dom being an elite level defensive player in the NBA. Ruben patterson esc.
Not to get off Sampson on his own thread, but Dom is a beast. Mo was really impressing me too the last few months until he injured his ankle. I just like how fluid Mo's game looks. He too could be a real special player for us.
Yup all three are extremely exciting. then theres garret whos a combintion of all three. At one point I would love to see a lineup of.
Harkless
Pointer
Garret
sampson
Pelle
That would be a ridiculusly long lineup that could cause havoc on the floor.
wth? who would play pg? lol
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I was really high on Sampson before the start of the season. Then sometime during the winter months i started to sour on him a bit. But his play the last couple months have me a huge believer of the kid. His play might be the most important of all the freshmen. If he can be a legitimate rebounder down low it would help our chances tremendously.
Agree 100% with your assessment of Sampson, but I would love it if he hit the weight room religiously this summer and fall to get an extra 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He should probably car pool to the gym with GG and pick up a few pointers. ;)
speaking of pointers, Dom is one heck of a physical specimen. I think its pretty obvious he has NBA level athleticism and will have the strength. He will be an absolute bull on the college level.
If hes shot never comes to fruition than i could still see Dom being an elite level defensive player in the NBA. Ruben patterson esc.
Not to get off Sampson on his own thread, but Dom is a beast. Mo was really impressing me too the last few months until he injured his ankle. I just like how fluid Mo's game looks. He too could be a real special player for us.
Yup all three are extremely exciting. then theres garret whos a combintion of all three. At one point I would love to see a lineup of.
Harkless
Pointer
Garret
sampson
Pelle
That would be a ridiculusly long lineup that could cause havoc on the floor.
wth? who would play pg? lol
some people have mentioned harkless bein able to hand the point in a pinch. Obviously this wouldnt be used for a large amount of time. I just think it would be ineresting to see
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Hasn't it been said amir could play point.
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New video:
Jakarr Sampson St. John's Commit Season Recap (#31 in the nation) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9w1l3zg6I#ws)
I'm sorry folks, but I just can't help but get the feeling that we're going to be a bit better than people think we are even being "young" next season. We just have sooo much more talent on the court. Look at Jakarr's ferocious crossover mid-video and someone tell me how many PF's or even SF's in this league can stop it coming off the wing?
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I'm sorry folks, but I just can't help but get the feeling that we're going to be a bit better than people think we are even being "young" next season. We just have sooo much more talent on the court. Look at Jakarr's ferocious crossover mid-video and someone tell me how many PF's or even SF's in this league can stop it coming off the wing?
I, concur.
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I'm sorry folks, but I just can't help but get the feeling that we're going to be a bit better than people think we are even being "young" next season. We just have sooo much more talent on the court. Look at Jakarr's ferocious crossover mid-video and someone tell me how many PF's or even SF's in this league can stop it coming off the wing?
I, concur.
A little OT, bit it's funny but reading what other teams fans and recruiting pundits have to say about our recruits or ranking heading into next year is one of two things. Great class, but it is more quantity over quality or that we have no "elite" guys in our class. Ive seen a lot of these guys play. I don't think Jakarr's game is all that far off from a kid like Michael Gilchrist. In fact, both have similar attributes, and neither is a real perimeter scorer. I don't think Dom Pointer would fare poorly against a guy like LeBryan Nash as both have eerily similar games. Nash is slightly bigger, but not by much. Compare a guy like Pelle to an "elite" guy like Birch or Christmas, and I actually like Pelle's upside. Is Harkless really that far inferior to a kid like DeAndre Daniels? Both have similar offensive games, with Daniels maybe having slightly better athleticism and more aggressiveness on D. Both have that silky offensive game.
I could go on, but I don't see the guys that SJU has coming in as being far inferior to many of these other kids. SJU's kids just aren't labelled "elite" in the same way. I frankly love how these other programs are voting us at the bottom of the league. Regardless, I see us being able to do some damage and crack the top 6-10 in the BE this season. These videos are just clips of what is to come.
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What MCNPA said....and then add in some guys who can score in bunches like Lindsey and Harrison in the backcourt, and then a defensive stopper like Garrett...
Team will really surprise people next year, but not without its ups and downs IMO.
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I'm sorry folks, but I just can't help but get the feeling that we're going to be a bit better than people think we are even being "young" next season. We just have sooo much more talent on the court. Look at Jakarr's ferocious crossover mid-video and someone tell me how many PF's or even SF's in this league can stop it coming off the wing?
I, concur.
A little OT, bit it's funny but reading what other teams fans and recruiting pundits have to say about our recruits or ranking heading into next year is one of two things. Great class, but it is more quantity over quality or that we have no "elite" guys in our class. Ive seen a lot of these guys play. I don't think Jakarr's game is all that far off from a kid like Michael Gilchrist. In fact, both have similar attributes, and neither is a real perimeter scorer. I don't think Dom Pointer would fare poorly against a guy like LeBryan Nash as both have eerily similar games. Nash is slightly bigger, but not by much. Compare a guy like Pelle to an "elite" guy like Birch or Christmas, and I actually like Pelle's upside. Is Harkless really that far inferior to a kid like DeAndre Daniels? Both have similar offensive games, with Daniels maybe having slightly better athleticism and more aggressiveness on D. Both have that silky offensive game.
I could go on, but I don't see the guys that SJU has coming in as being far inferior to many of these other kids. SJU's kids just aren't labelled "elite" in the same way. I frankly love how these other programs are voting us at the bottom of the league. Regardless, I see us being able to do some damage and crack the top 6-10 in the BE this season. These videos are just clips of what is to come.
I agree and disagree in parts. I think having quantity will help us next year at times when a certain player hits a wall. We will have a variety of options and not be pigeonholed with hopes on one particular freshman. However I do think that ratings are there for a reason and especially the Top 20-30 or so. They are less likely to miss in that area than once you venture out of there. Most of our guys are in the 30-50 I think and there could be misses there. But misses are usually a mix of bad character and bad coaching and we should not be worried about either in our case.
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New video:
Jakarr Sampson St. John's Commit Season Recap (#31 in the nation) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9w1l3zg6I#ws)
I'm sorry folks, but I just can't help but get the feeling that we're going to be a bit better than people think we are even being "young" next season. We just have sooo much more talent on the court. Look at Jakarr's ferocious crossover mid-video and someone tell me how many PF's or even SF's in this league can stop it coming off the wing?
Nice video, but does he know how to dunk?
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New video:
Jakarr Sampson St. John's Commit Season Recap (#31 in the nation) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9w1l3zg6I#ws)
I'm sorry folks, but I just can't help but get the feeling that we're going to be a bit better than people think we are even being "young" next season. We just have sooo much more talent on the court. Look at Jakarr's ferocious crossover mid-video and someone tell me how many PF's or even SF's in this league can stop it coming off the wing?
Nice video, but does he know how to dunk?
If your waiting for a compilation video of a recruit shooting FT's don't hold your breath :)
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New video:
Jakarr Sampson St. John's Commit Season Recap (#31 in the nation) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9w1l3zg6I#ws)
I'm sorry folks, but I just can't help but get the feeling that we're going to be a bit better than people think we are even being "young" next season. We just have sooo much more talent on the court. Look at Jakarr's ferocious crossover mid-video and someone tell me how many PF's or even SF's in this league can stop it coming off the wing?
Nice video, but does he know how to dunk?
If your waiting for a compilation video of a recruit shooting FT's don't hold your breath :)
As silly as it may sound, Jakarr dunking does reveal that he has huge hands, which will be an asset handling the ball, finishing as well as getting rebounds. As minimally important as it might seam, he has great one-handed control over the ball and it will help him moving forward. I agree it doesn't tell all, but still fun to watch and some traits revealed.
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as impressive as the dunks were. That crossover was nasty. If he develops a shot to go along with it his game would be scary.
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Jakarr Sampson St. John's Bound 2010-2011 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgSarOjhKw#ws)
I'm sure its been posted but its worth another look. Hes not just an athletic freak, jakarr shows some great quick moves in the post and it looks like he doesn't try to do to much with the ball. Seems very efficient to me.
The combination of Jakarr, Mo, Pointer, and Garrett is just ridiculous in terms of length and athleticism. Our press, zone, and open court game has the potential to be great.
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We were lucky to get one of these guys in a class...can't wait for the season!
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Amir Garrett just tweeted he just got done working out with JaKarr!!!
JaKarr retweeted it, so if you were worried that JaKarr was not on campus don't be, he is there.
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Amir Garrett just tweeted he just got done working out with JaKarr!!!
JaKarr retweeted it, so if you were worried that JaKarr was not on campus don't be, he is there.
Fantastic News. It looks like we are just waiting on Pelle to finish his class at Rise and Nuri. Nuri might not be there too early if he's not taking summer session classes so who knows. Doubt there will be much of an issue there.
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Jakarr Sampson St. John's Bound 2010-2011 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgSarOjhKw#ws)
I'm sure its been posted but its worth another look. Hes not just an athletic freak, jakarr shows some great quick moves in the post and it looks like he doesn't try to do to much with the ball. Seems very efficient to me.
The combination of Jakarr, Mo, Pointer, and Garrett is just ridiculous in terms of length and athleticism. Our press, zone, and open court game has the potential to be great.
How do you defend this kid one-on-one when he faces up on the baseline? Explosive quickness...if he can hit the short-corner jumper consistently, the only way to stop him there will be to double him or hope he gets out of control. Remember Hakim Warrick? Same size...impossibly fast first step.
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Jakarr Sampson St. John's Bound 2010-2011 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgSarOjhKw#ws)
I'm sure its been posted but its worth another look. Hes not just an athletic freak, jakarr shows some great quick moves in the post and it looks like he doesn't try to do to much with the ball. Seems very efficient to me.
The combination of Jakarr, Mo, Pointer, and Garrett is just ridiculous in terms of length and athleticism. Our press, zone, and open court game has the potential to be great.
How do you defend this kid one-on-one when he faces up on the baseline? Explosive quickness...if he can hit the short-corner jumper consistently, the only way to stop him there will be to double him or hope he gets out of control. Remember Hakim Warrick? Same size...impossibly fast first step.
Similar to the way you would defend Dwayne Polee. He doesn't hit consistent jumpers and if you play physical with him you might be able to out muscle him. How ever once he gets more comfortable with his outside game and gets stronger it will give other teams nightmares on how to stop him because he has gifts you cant teach
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Sampson looks MUCH stronger and more skilled than Polee. Polee was not a threat AT ALL inside like I expected. He was so frail that alley-oops weren't even an option in there in spite of his amazing length and leaping ability. A forearm to the side is all that it took to stop Polee inside.
Sampson looks like he will go after rebounds ferociously and will throw it down on defenders that want to sit back and pack it in close to the basket.
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Nice body control. Like how he uses his body to create space. Can't wait to see what the staff does with this group!
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Sampson looks MUCH stronger and more skilled than Polee. Polee was not a threat AT ALL inside like I expected. He was so frail that alley-oops weren't even an option in there in spite of his amazing length and leaping ability. A forearm to the side is all that it took to stop Polee inside.
Sampson looks like he will go after rebounds ferociously and will throw it down on defenders that want to sit back and pack it in close to the basket.
When I first saw Sampson at a Showcase in New Haven the first thing I thought of was this was Polee after a few years of seasoning. So he's already light years ahead of him.
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Not to pile on Polee because I really liked him and wish he was still here but Sampson is already head and shoulders above him. Along with the videos, I got to see him at IS8 and he was the recruit I was most impressed with that day (Garrett and Pointer were also there). He's taller and longer than Polee and unlike Dwayne he is already a threat off the dribble at his size. He was dunking everything and was the first man down the floor on both sides of the ball. He has an incredible skill set for a guy that big
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Sampson looks MUCH stronger and more skilled than Polee. Polee was not a threat AT ALL inside like I expected. He was so frail that alley-oops weren't even an option in there in spite of his amazing length and leaping ability. A forearm to the side is all that it took to stop Polee inside.
Sampson looks like he will go after rebounds ferociously and will throw it down on defenders that want to sit back and pack it in close to the basket.
When I first saw Sampson at a Showcase in New Haven the first thing I thought of was this was Polee after a few years of seasoning. So he's already light years ahead of him.
Sampson is the reason Polee transferred, so it looks like Polee knew it as well. Sampson surely looks more seasoned, but I am praying he is more aggressive. It was frustrating watching Polee get thrown off the block with ease, and I can't believe he wasn't in there throwing down tomahawk putbacks or catching a few alleyoops with is natural abilities.
I wish Dwayne stuck around, but he was really just an open court player as a freshman that could come up with a nifty drive or hanging midrange once in a while. Last season was one of the worst offensive rebounding displays I've ever witnessed at St. John's. I don't think Sampson and co. will continue that.
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I agree that he is further along then Polee but in this brutal conference he still needs to hit the weights hard and get a more consistent jumper. I love his potential and his game I just worry that he might have some problems in the half court this year
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According to Amir Garrett's Twitter account, he and Jakarr are playing in The Chosen League tonight in Philly.
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According to Amir Garrett's Twitter account, he and Jakarr are playing in The Chosen League tonight in Philly.
Wonder if Nuri is playing down there as well?
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Jakarr is the recruit im most excited to see. It looks like he just needs a little more muscle
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I agree that he is further along then Polee but in this brutal conference he still needs to hit the weights hard and get a more consistent jumper. I love his potential and his game I just worry that he might have some problems in the half court this year
I agree. I think we take our lumps in the halfcourt this year, but what I really like out of most of our guys are the angles they take and hustle they show hitting the offensive glass. All you see in the Brewster videos is Sampson finding a way to the rim after a shot is hoisted b his teammate...Harkless as well. Even Harrison is a stud rebounder for his position. When we were at our best in the Postell era, we hit the glass relentlessly and created opportunity after opportunity.
Sampson has the frame to be an absolute beast in two years if he puts in the time in the gym.
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According to Amir Garrett's Twitter account, he and Jakarr are playing in The Chosen League tonight in Philly.
Amir, Nuri and Jakarr from the Chosen League
http://yfrog.com/klr5wtjj (http://yfrog.com/klr5wtjj)
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According to Amir Garrett's Twitter account, he and Jakarr are playing in The Chosen League tonight in Philly.
Amir, Nuri and Jakarr from the Chosen League
http://yfrog.com/klr5wtjj (http://yfrog.com/klr5wtjj)
Norvel is not pictured but his name is tagged with the others...makes sense he'd play on that team too.
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According to Amir Garrett's Twitter account, he and Jakarr are playing in The Chosen League tonight in Philly.
Amir, Nuri and Jakarr from the Chosen League
http://yfrog.com/klr5wtjj (http://yfrog.com/klr5wtjj)
Norvel is not pictured but his name is tagged with the others...makes sense he'd play on that team too.
He did say he wasn't feeling well and went to hospital. Maybe the reason. Great to have them all playing together.
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Here are numbers from Jakarr and Amirs first game at the Chosen league in Philly.
http://runhouse.net/2011/07/13/chosen-league-updates/ (http://runhouse.net/2011/07/13/chosen-league-updates/)
The action continues as the Philadelphia Chosen League moves into week 3:
*Game #1
Point 3 Basketball 83
-Jakari Simpson 22 Pts & 7 Rebs
-Amir Garrett 18 Pts & 4 Rebs
Old School Cavs 62
-George Carter 27 Pts
Notes: Chosen League Alumni & St. Johns Recruit Nurideen Lindsey Came by to watch future St. John Teammates Jakari Simpson & Amir Garrett Play in there 1st Chosen League Game
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glad they got his name right..
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Does anyone know if Jakarr is taking classes in Philly too this summer? I am guessing he is unless he went for a little trip that day but haven't seen it stated anywhere.
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Does anyone know if Jakarr is taking classes in Philly too this summer? I am guessing he is unless he went for a little trip that day but haven't seen it stated anywhere.
I believe so.
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That's good I'm glad Norvel has some company out there. Mo isn't taking classes at st johns this summer. So to my knowledge theres stith, GG, Dom, and Phil on campus. I don't know if D'angelo is in NY or not does anyone have conformation?
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That's good I'm glad Norvel has some company out there. Mo isn't taking classes at st johns this summer. So to my knowledge theres stith, GG, Dom, and Phil on campus. I don't know if D'angelo is in NY or not does anyone have conformation?
Deangelo was supposed to be in NY and Moe was actually supposed to be as well. He might be living home and going to school. But honestly who knows. If you told me a month ago we would have Norvel, Amir and Jakarr in Philly I would say your nuts.
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That's good I'm glad Norvel has some company out there. Mo isn't taking classes at st johns this summer. So to my knowledge theres stith, GG, Dom, and Phil on campus. I don't know if D'angelo is in NY or not does anyone have conformation?
Deangelo was supposed to be in NY and Moe was actually supposed to be as well. He might be living home and going to school. But honestly who knows. If you told me a month ago we would have Norvel, Amir and Jakarr in Philly I would say your nuts.
Dont forget Nuri is in Phillly also. Its 1/3 of our team. but as far as Nuri and Jakarr are concerned, it doesnt sound like they are there for classes (although Nuri may be taking on line courses). I dont think its a bad thing to have 4 of our guys working out and playing together even though it's not on campus. I would feel more warm and fuzzy if they were on campus though.
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That's good I'm glad Norvel has some company out there. Mo isn't taking classes at st johns this summer. So to my knowledge theres stith, GG, Dom, and Phil on campus. I don't know if D'angelo is in NY or not does anyone have conformation?
Deangelo was supposed to be in NY and Moe was actually supposed to be as well. He might be living home and going to school. But honestly who knows. If you told me a month ago we would have Norvel, Amir and Jakarr in Philly I would say your nuts.
I know some people don't like some things they read on Twitter but I saw Phill Greene asking Moe "when are you coming?", which I assume he means to school, and Moe replied "whenever they let me bro." This is all speculation, but does this have anything to do with the Hicks situation and whether or not he is eligible to play for us? I figured he would be the first one on campus considering he lives so close.
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That's good I'm glad Norvel has some company out there. Mo isn't taking classes at st johns this summer. So to my knowledge theres stith, GG, Dom, and Phil on campus. I don't know if D'angelo is in NY or not does anyone have conformation?
Deangelo was supposed to be in NY and Moe was actually supposed to be as well. He might be living home and going to school. But honestly who knows. If you told me a month ago we would have Norvel, Amir and Jakarr in Philly I would say your nuts.
I know some people don't like some things they read on Twitter but I saw Phill Greene asking Moe "when are you coming?", which I assume he means to school, and Moe replied "whenever they let me bro." This is all speculation, but does this have anything to do with the Hicks situation and whether or not he is eligible to play for us? I figured he would be the first one on campus considering he lives so close.
I saw that aswell. Not sure what to think of it but people have said it wont be an issue. I also saw Mo say he was gonna be on campus when the regular students arrived in the fall
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That's good I'm glad Norvel has some company out there. Mo isn't taking classes at st johns this summer. So to my knowledge theres stith, GG, Dom, and Phil on campus. I don't know if D'angelo is in NY or not does anyone have conformation?
Deangelo was supposed to be in NY and Moe was actually supposed to be as well. He might be living home and going to school. But honestly who knows. If you told me a month ago we would have Norvel, Amir and Jakarr in Philly I would say your nuts.
I know some people don't like some things they read on Twitter but I saw Phill Greene asking Moe "when are you coming?", which I assume he means to school, and Moe replied "whenever they let me bro." This is all speculation, but does this have anything to do with the Hicks situation and whether or not he is eligible to play for us? I figured he would be the first one on campus considering he lives so close.
Probably so. Lavin probably doesn't want to risk it for Mo, and the NCAA is notorious for dragging their feet. THey could have ruled on this about a year ago, but the NCAA always drags things out. I don't think it will be an issue either, but waiting for the NCAA is like waiting for Godot.
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ugh. I hope this gets resolved. Mo is penciled in for me as a starter, we can't have any problems. Most schools have their freshmen on campus getting acclimated, ours are scattered. That is frustrating.
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ugh. I hope this gets resolved. Mo is penciled in for me as a starter, we can't have any problems. Most schools have their freshmen on campus getting acclimated, ours are scattered. That is frustrating.
I'm not happy either. This whole Philly thing seems so odd to me....almost orchestrated. I just can't wait for all of this to be resolved. The NCAA is an effing joke. Mo is a good student and if they can't get their ish together over this...wow. It's one thing to screen fishy players, but it's just downright wrong to mess with innocent kids.
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I'm almost tempted to say we volunteer he sit out the first 2 games. He played 2 tourneys for the 'Chos so offer up 2 games. We shouldnt need him those first two games and then he's back for the first CVC MSG game.
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ugh. I hope this gets resolved. Mo is penciled in for me as a starter, we can't have any problems. Most schools have their freshmen on campus getting acclimated, ours are scattered. That is frustrating.
I'm not happy either. This whole Philly thing seems so odd to me....almost orchestrated. I just can't wait for all of this to be resolved. The NCAA is an effing joke. Mo is a good student and if they can't get their ish together over this...wow. It's one thing to screen fishy players, but it's just downright wrong to mess with innocent kids.
You think the Philly thing is not somewhat orchestrated? Our staff knows what they need to do. As far as Mo goes though, I am positive we are just waiting for an NCAA that is dragging their feet as usual. I don't think there will be a problem. I can't believe there would be as there is sooo little association between Maurice and Hicks it isn't even funny. Nate Blue was his "corner man" if anything, not Hicks. It's absurd, but these are the hoops that need to be jumped through. Gotta wait it out. I think we'll be fine, as it seems none of these young men need to go the prep route, and are actively playing and finishing what they need to do.
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I sometimes get the feeling that the NCAA is still mad about Jarvis' rape comment way back when.
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I sometimes get the feeling that the NCAA is still mad about Jarvis' rape comment way back when.
Thats 2 regimes removed. I think they are just incompetent all around.
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I sometimes get the feeling that the NCAA is still mad about Jarvis' rape comment way back when.
Thats 2 regimes removed. I think they are just incompetent all around.
It's quite convenient for the NCAA that most of the kids they f with don't have the resources to challenge them.
I'm sure it's happened since, but it's pretty sad that Kenny thomas is the last guy I remember really standing up to them and winning.
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I sometimes get the feeling that the NCAA is still mad about Jarvis' rape comment way back when.
Thats 2 regimes removed. I think they are just incompetent all around.
It's quite convenient for the NCAA that most of the kids they f with don't have the resources to challenge them.
I'm sure it's happened since, but it's pretty sad that Kenny thomas is the last guy I remember really standing up to them and winning.
What happened with Kenny Thomas? I dont remember that
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I sometimes get the feeling that the NCAA is still mad about Jarvis' rape comment way back when.
Thats 2 regimes removed. I think they are just incompetent all around.
It's quite convenient for the NCAA that most of the kids they f with don't have the resources to challenge them.
I'm sure it's happened since, but it's pretty sad that Kenny thomas is the last guy I remember really standing up to them and winning.
One of Steve's first recruits also stood up to them - and won. But it took him almost 3 years and 2 years of his eligibility. McD AA Schea Cotton - the NCAA clearing house not only stopped him from playing for Steve at UCLA, but after he challenged them in court, they aslo stopped him from playing for UNC-Charlotte 2 seasons later. He won in court that third year, and they had to let him play for Alabama. He played one year of JC ball while being force to sit out (28 pts 8 rebs), then in his one year in the SEC, 15pts and 6 rebs...
4 years later they did it to Steve again, this time with McD AA Evan Burns. Declared him ineligible due to a questionable "core" class at his high school. The cirruculum had been set up by his school counselors, with that core class previously accepted by the NCAA for SEVERAL other athletes from that school. UCLA didnt' accept partial qualifiers, and so couldn't give Evan his scholie till the clearinghouse made their "decision". The kid couldn't afford college without the Scholie - so he enrolled instead at San Diego State (that was the final year they WOULD accpept partial-qualifiers). The clearinghouse almost immediately declared the class "valid" and the kid eligible. Burns was Mountain West Freshman of the year. A terrible knee injury at the end of that frosh season pretty much ended his career...
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What happened with Kenny Thomas? I dont remember that
I think the NCAA tried to keep him from playing, but Thomas got an injunction and played anyway. Then I think he sued them -- but my memory is hazy on details.
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Per his twitter he will be at St. Johns on August 30th.
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Coffey, thanks for the post. Nice to read. :)
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Good news. Probably when the others will be arriving as well.
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My son was at a Party with Jakaar last night. All good. He said he loves coach Lavin, looking forward to the season.
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where is jakarr partying with your son? last thing we need is this kid getting caught underage drinking at some house party....not that im assuming that is something your son does
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where is jakarr partying with your son? last thing we need is this kid getting caught underage drinking at some house party....not that im assuming that is something your son does
Here we go. Social media got NCAA sniffing around Harkless. Haven't we learned? ;D
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where is jakarr partying with your son? last thing we need is this kid getting caught underage drinking at some house party....not that im assuming that is something your son does
Here we go. Social media got NCAA sniffing around Harkless. Haven't we learned? ;D
Yup. Garrett and the rest of these guys represent St Johns now. Maybe someone should let them know? I would be sure to if I was on the twitter
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where is jakarr partying with your son? last thing we need is this kid getting caught underage drinking at some house party....not that im assuming that is something your son does
Here we go. Social media got NCAA sniffing around Harkless. Haven't we learned? ;D
Yup. Garrett and the rest of these guys represent St Johns now. Maybe someone should let them know? I would be sure to if I was on the twitter
I think Amir's tweet was removed.
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"Late night open gym with my St. Johons bros @NorvelPelle5 and @Amir_Garrett"
Good to hear they're getting ready, and don't sound like guys worried about whether they'll be here.
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where is jakarr partying with your son? last thing we need is this kid getting caught underage drinking at some house party....not that im assuming that is something your son does
Here we go. Social media got NCAA sniffing around Harkless. Haven't we learned? ;D
Yup. Garrett and the rest of these guys represent St Johns now. Maybe someone should let them know? I would be sure to if I was on the twitter
So they can't go to parties anymore?
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Jakarr, Norvel and Amir all played together at the Kingdome in Harlem yesterday before rain ended the game early. Pelle def has a couple inches on Jakarr, anything thrown near the rim is his. Can't wait to see them in St Johns Uni's. Time to break out sunglasses cause the future is bright
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Jakarr, Norvel and Amir all played together at the Kingdome in Harlem yesterday before rain ended the game early. Pelle def has a couple inches on Jakarr, anything thrown near the rim is his. Can't wait to see them in St Johns Uni's. Time to break out sunglasses cause the future is bright
Great to hear that Norvelle was a man out there. Any specifics?
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Norvel was least skilled offensively of the 3 but anything near the rim was thrown down on O or out of there on D. Jakarr has better handle than i thought and long arms. he dunked on someones head jumpin flat-footed, led the break a couple of times. Amir is a straight athlete. He played point alot yesterday did ok as pg(do not see him as pg in college) set shot lil flat but was the best of the 3. he scored on an array of short jumpers slashing to the hole and dunking on whoever stood in way.
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But to me best of all, they seemed like they have been best friends for years. They were having fun together and seem to be very supportive of each other. Cant wait to see them with the other 6 doing damage for the next few years!
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thanks for the updates ripdumaine! If you had to guess from seeing the three of them together what would you say their height is
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thanks for the updates ripdumaine! If you had to guess from seeing the three of them together what would you say their height is
Amir is 6'6
Jakarr is 6'8
Only time I saw Pelle was when he visited STJ with Amir and he had a couple inches on Amir.
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Great news. Big men take much longer to develop, so all I'm looking for Norvel to do is defend the post, rip boards and start the break, and throw it down on the offensive end.
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Jakarr is at least 6'10" from what I've seen, which is a good thing for us. He needs to work on some post moves, but he's got really good hands and finishes well around the hoop. The one thing he has which we haven't had for a long time is fantastic shot blocking ability. Can't wait to see how he develops. Jakarr is another kid with a high ceiling. He is a real good handler in the open court, and gets down with long strides. The point made that these kids really like each other. That was by Lavin having them call, text each other all the time as soon as coming on board. It's great for chemistry. Another tweet the other day was from Sir'Dom hanging out with buddies Stith and Phil Greene. These kids are going to have a great time and will get us to another level in a year or two. Thanks for the reports.
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Jakarr is at least 6'10" from what I've seen, which is a good thing for us. He needs to work on some post moves, but he's got really good hands and finishes well around the hoop. The one thing he has which we haven't had for a long time is fantastic shot blocking ability. Can't wait to see how he develops. Jakarr is another kid with a high ceiling. He is a real good handler in the open court, and gets down with long strides. The point made that these kids really like each other. That was by Lavin having them call, text each other all the time as soon as coming on board. It's great for chemistry. Another tweet the other day was from Sir'Dom hanging out with buddies Stith and Phil Greene. These kids are going to have a great time and will get us to another level in a year or two. Thanks for the reports.
I think you meant Pelle is 6'10 not Jakarr.
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Yes Moose, I did mean Pelle.
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Yea i agree Norvel is 6'10". Amir is every bit of 6'6" and Jakarr had a couple inches on him, while Pelle had a couple on Jakarr. Norvel's shot is not too bad and he has a lil crossover but Kingdome is a small court so help is 1 step away. That being said it made it more impressive that Jakarr and Amir got to the hole as often as they did. While they all had highlite dunks blocks and moves none of them showboated, hung on rim, just played ball and had fun together doing it
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
Different players. Jakarr is a bit bigger and has more ability to go both inside and out. Best thing about Jakarr is that he's freakishly quick for his size. His first step can be dangerous and he has a good arsenal of moves getting o the basket and finishing. He's got big hands and really gets around the court. If Jakarr can get to the point where he's a reliable shooter to range, he can be monster. Some compare him to a guy like Hakim Warrick, and that is spot on. I do think we'll be using him at PF a bit, so some of the outside shooting onus will go to others first.
We will likely struggle as a team shooting-wise because we are all freshmen, and there is no doubt that our players all have strides to make. Hopefully we can find enlighten outside shooting overall as a team to balance things out. Harrison, Harkless, Lindsey can all score and will need to.
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
I think Garrett will be solid in the half court. I see him as a more versatile Paris Horne. I think he'll spend a lot of time in the corners like Paris for set shots, but will be able to take the ball to the rim if ball movement and/or screens give him the space. That was the major weakness of Paris' game. He has shown fine passing ability as well as being able to be a menace on the boards.
To me, he looks like the most complete forward we have right now in that he doesn't have a glaring weakness. I expect him to be more under control and patient than Pointer. I think Pointer will be sensational, but I do expect him to make a ton of mistakes and play sloppy this coming year. I think Jakkar will be at both ends. His passing ability is pretty incredible for a kid his size and he has the ability to get the rebound and go. I think he learns quickly that he won't be able to take it the length of the court as a freshman and starts to give it u to a guard after a few dribbles.
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
I think Garrett will be solid in the half court. I see him as a more versatile Paris Horne. I think he'll spend a lot of time in the corners like Paris for set shots, but will be able to take the ball to the rim if ball movement and/or screens give him the space. That was the major weakness of Paris' game. He has shown fine passing ability as well as being able to be a menace on the boards.
To me, he looks like the most complete forward we have right now in that he doesn't have a glaring weakness. I expect him to be more under control and patient than Pointer. I think Pointer will be sensational, but I do expect him to make a ton of mistakes and play sloppy this coming year. I think Jakkar will be at both ends. His passing ability is pretty incredible for a kid his size and he has the ability to get the rebound and go. I think he learns quickly that he won't be able to take it the length of the court as a freshman and starts to give it u to a guard after a few dribbles.
I still think Amir's big weakness is his handle with his left hand. He also need to make his shooting more reliable. As far as Jakarr goes, I think his handle in the open court is a lot better than you realize. Pointer is being undersold. He's fantastic at slashing through traffic. Certainly can tighten up his handle, but he'll be a demon. What I love about all our players is their versatility. All are great athletes that can get on the break, shoot well enough, rebound, block shots etc. We don't lose much subbing in and out.
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
I think Garrett will be solid in the half court. I see him as a more versatile Paris Horne. I think he'll spend a lot of time in the corners like Paris for set shots, but will be able to take the ball to the rim if ball movement and/or screens give him the space. That was the major weakness of Paris' game. He has shown fine passing ability as well as being able to be a menace on the boards.
To me, he looks like the most complete forward we have right now in that he doesn't have a glaring weakness. I expect him to be more under control and patient than Pointer. I think Pointer will be sensational, but I do expect him to make a ton of mistakes and play sloppy this coming year. I think Jakkar will be at both ends. His passing ability is pretty incredible for a kid his size and he has the ability to get the rebound and go. I think he learns quickly that he won't be able to take it the length of the court as a freshman and starts to give it u to a guard after a few dribbles.
I still think Amir's big weakness is his handle with his left hand. He also need to make his shooting more reliable. As far as Jakarr goes, I think his handle in the open court is a lot better than you realize. Pointer is being undersold. He's fantastic at slashing through traffic. Certainly can tighten up his handle, but he'll be a demon. What I love about all our players is their versatility. All are great athletes that can get on the break, shoot well enough, rebound, block shots etc. We don't lose much subbing in and out.
Amir's trouble is his left hand dribble. He's a lefty.
Not to put words in your mouth but if his left dribble is a problem to you then he must be a really bad dribbler. Mostly peoples weakness is their off hand. So if your saying his left is bad I cringe to think what his right hand is like to you :)
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
I think Garrett will be solid in the half court. I see him as a more versatile Paris Horne. I think he'll spend a lot of time in the corners like Paris for set shots, but will be able to take the ball to the rim if ball movement and/or screens give him the space. That was the major weakness of Paris' game. He has shown fine passing ability as well as being able to be a menace on the boards.
To me, he looks like the most complete forward we have right now in that he doesn't have a glaring weakness. I expect him to be more under control and patient than Pointer. I think Pointer will be sensational, but I do expect him to make a ton of mistakes and play sloppy this coming year. I think Jakkar will be at both ends. His passing ability is pretty incredible for a kid his size and he has the ability to get the rebound and go. I think he learns quickly that he won't be able to take it the length of the court as a freshman and starts to give it u to a guard after a few dribbles.
I still think Amir's big weakness is his handle with his left hand. He also need to make his shooting more reliable. As far as Jakarr goes, I think his handle in the open court is a lot better than you realize. Pointer is being undersold. He's fantastic at slashing through traffic. Certainly can tighten up his handle, but he'll be a demon. What I love about all our players is their versatility. All are great athletes that can get on the break, shoot well enough, rebound, block shots etc. We don't lose much subbing in and out.
Amir's strong hand (left) is weak? Or did you mean right hand handle? Agree on Dom's slashing ability. It should not be neutralized as often as other players will encounter on the move up from HS ball.
As far as shooting, I like to look at the shooting mechanics of incoming players. If they're solid, it'll make the transition to finishing contested jumpers (that were not contested nearly as much in HS) a little bit faster. Another area I like to watch is how the 2-4 slots do with the catch and shoot. In HS, quite often a player can just get to the hole for a close in shot due to quick first step and explosion after catching a pass. I will look at how they develop at getting a shot off right after a pass, especially off a screen.
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
I think Garrett will be solid in the half court. I see him as a more versatile Paris Horne. I think he'll spend a lot of time in the corners like Paris for set shots, but will be able to take the ball to the rim if ball movement and/or screens give him the space. That was the major weakness of Paris' game. He has shown fine passing ability as well as being able to be a menace on the boards.
To me, he looks like the most complete forward we have right now in that he doesn't have a glaring weakness. I expect him to be more under control and patient than Pointer. I think Pointer will be sensational, but I do expect him to make a ton of mistakes and play sloppy this coming year. I think Jakkar will be at both ends. His passing ability is pretty incredible for a kid his size and he has the ability to get the rebound and go. I think he learns quickly that he won't be able to take it the length of the court as a freshman and starts to give it u to a guard after a few dribbles.
I still think Amir's big weakness is his handle with his left hand. He also need to make his shooting more reliable. As far as Jakarr goes, I think his handle in the open court is a lot better than you realize. Pointer is being undersold. He's fantastic at slashing through traffic. Certainly can tighten up his handle, but he'll be a demon. What I love about all our players is their versatility. All are great athletes that can get on the break, shoot well enough, rebound, block shots etc. We don't lose much subbing in and out.
Amir's trouble is his left hand dribble. He's a lefty.
Not to put words in your mouth but if his left dribble is a problem to you then he must be a really bad dribbler. Mostly peoples weakness is their off hand. So if your saying his left is bad I cringe to think what his right hand is like to you :)
was writing my post as you posted Moose - we both thought the same thing :)
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
I think Garrett will be solid in the half court. I see him as a more versatile Paris Horne. I think he'll spend a lot of time in the corners like Paris for set shots, but will be able to take the ball to the rim if ball movement and/or screens give him the space. That was the major weakness of Paris' game. He has shown fine passing ability as well as being able to be a menace on the boards.
To me, he looks like the most complete forward we have right now in that he doesn't have a glaring weakness. I expect him to be more under control and patient than Pointer. I think Pointer will be sensational, but I do expect him to make a ton of mistakes and play sloppy this coming year. I think Jakkar will be at both ends. His passing ability is pretty incredible for a kid his size and he has the ability to get the rebound and go. I think he learns quickly that he won't be able to take it the length of the court as a freshman and starts to give it u to a guard after a few dribbles.
I still think Amir's big weakness is his handle with his left hand. He also need to make his shooting more reliable. As far as Jakarr goes, I think his handle in the open court is a lot better than you realize. Pointer is being undersold. He's fantastic at slashing through traffic. Certainly can tighten up his handle, but he'll be a demon. What I love about all our players is their versatility. All are great athletes that can get on the break, shoot well enough, rebound, block shots etc. We don't lose much subbing in and out.
Amir's trouble is his left hand dribble. He's a lefty.
Not to put words in your mouth but if his left dribble is a problem to you then he must be a really bad dribbler. Mostly peoples weakness is their off hand. So if your saying his left is bad I cringe to think what his right hand is like to you :)
Yes Moose, it was his right I was speaking of or his "off" hand. I have to say though, you really are becoming a pain in the butt as the thought police though. :knuppel2: ;)
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I'm intrigued to see how Garrett and Sampson's games translate this year. I think both will be very good defenders and good in the open court but might struggle in half court sets. Hopefully they both work hard in their perimeter shot to open lanes for them because as of now neither seem consistent scorers outside of the paint
I think Garrett will be solid in the half court. I see him as a more versatile Paris Horne. I think he'll spend a lot of time in the corners like Paris for set shots, but will be able to take the ball to the rim if ball movement and/or screens give him the space. That was the major weakness of Paris' game. He has shown fine passing ability as well as being able to be a menace on the boards.
To me, he looks like the most complete forward we have right now in that he doesn't have a glaring weakness. I expect him to be more under control and patient than Pointer. I think Pointer will be sensational, but I do expect him to make a ton of mistakes and play sloppy this coming year. I think Jakkar will be at both ends. His passing ability is pretty incredible for a kid his size and he has the ability to get the rebound and go. I think he learns quickly that he won't be able to take it the length of the court as a freshman and starts to give it u to a guard after a few dribbles.
I still think Amir's big weakness is his handle with his left hand. He also need to make his shooting more reliable. As far as Jakarr goes, I think his handle in the open court is a lot better than you realize. Pointer is being undersold. He's fantastic at slashing through traffic. Certainly can tighten up his handle, but he'll be a demon. What I love about all our players is their versatility. All are great athletes that can get on the break, shoot well enough, rebound, block shots etc. We don't lose much subbing in and out.
Amir's trouble is his left hand dribble. He's a lefty.
Not to put words in your mouth but if his left dribble is a problem to you then he must be a really bad dribbler. Mostly peoples weakness is their off hand. So if your saying his left is bad I cringe to think what his right hand is like to you :)
Yes Moose, it was his right I was speaking of or his "off" hand. I have to say though, you really are becoming a pain in the butt as the thought police though. :knuppel2: ;)
I would chalk it up to your iPad but I don't think it corrects right to left :)
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I think Mo Hark is a lil more along than Jakarr in terms of competin at a high level right away.
But Im glad we got both cause they gonna tear it up. No doubt.
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I think Mo Hark is a lil more along than Jakarr in terms of competin at a high level right away.
But Im glad we got both cause they gonna tear it up. No doubt.
Absolutely.
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I think Mo Hark is a lil more along than Jakarr in terms of competin at a high level right away.
But Im glad we got both cause they gonna tear it up. No doubt.
Mo is far and away our best offensive forward. Defensively he looks like he's behind Pointer and Garret for sure and Sampson is a great shot blocker that'll likely see time at the four. I'd like to see Mo become a big creator and not settle for just being one of the guys. He needs to be a primary option.
Lavin has his work cutout for him. When you bring in this many elite players for 2-3 positions, it is going to be fierce. It's impossible to predict what will happen. What's the difference between a guy ranked 40 and a guy ranked 70?
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I think Mo Hark is a lil more along than Jakarr in terms of competin at a high level right away.
But Im glad we got both cause they gonna tear it up. No doubt.
Mo is far and away our best offensive forward. Defensively he looks like he's behind Pointer and Garret for sure and Sampson is a great shot blocker that'll likely see time at the four. I'd like to see Mo become a big creator and not settle for just being one of the guys. He needs to be a primary option.
Lavin has his work cutout for him. When you bring in this many elite players for 2-3 positions, it is going to be fierce. It's impossible to predict what will happen. What's the difference between a guy ranked 40 and a guy ranked 70?
30 slots. ;D I see all these kids being able to bring something to the table at some point. It's certainly gonna be interesting.
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Lavin already said this year would be the toughest job he's ever had to do. I don't doubt it. Great raw materials and rewards to be had if it can come together. In the Big East, there is a fine line between disappointing year and a good one. SJU could grab the 10th or 11th Big East bid into the tourney and be dancing. Or 11 or 12 could be sitting at home. I hope we can sneak into one of the bottom spots. Not out of the question.
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Lavin already said this year would be the toughest job he's ever had to do. I don't doubt it. Great raw materials and rewards to be had if it can come together. In the Big East, there is a fine line between disappointing year and a good one. SJU could grab the 10th or 11th Big East bid into the tourney and be dancing. Or 11 or 12 could be sitting at home. I hope we can sneak into one of the bottom spots. Not out of the question.
I think the Big East is a nine bid conference this year due to the perceived lackluster performance last year. Also, the conferences that were down last year likely will be better. I think we take some big lumps, but the SOS could be a savior once again.
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Lavin already said this year would be the toughest job he's ever had to do. I don't doubt it. Great raw materials and rewards to be had if it can come together. In the Big East, there is a fine line between disappointing year and a good one. SJU could grab the 10th or 11th Big East bid into the tourney and be dancing. Or 11 or 12 could be sitting at home. I hope we can sneak into one of the bottom spots. Not out of the question.
I think the Big East is a nine bid conference this year due to the perceived lackluster performance last year. Also, the conferences that were down last year likely will be better. I think we take some big lumps, but the SOS could be a savior once again.
If there is a borderline SJU team this season with a SOS ranked #1, which I'm pretty confident it will be, then it will make it tough for the NCAA committee to turn us down. Not just us. Teams like WVU, Notre Dame and maybe even Georgetown Nova I think we can creep ahead if we play well down the stretch. It will be a brutal Big East again, but lots of those schools lost top players. Not going to be easy for Georgetown without Wright and Freeman. Those guys were their bread and butter. Notre Dame without Hansbrough, Carleton Scott, Nash etc.. We will struggle for sure, but with our SOS and RPI I'm hoping we can sneak one of those lower spots into the NCAA's. We'll see. Our league just needs to do what we have been and win our OOC games...
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Lavin already said this year would be the toughest job he's ever had to do. I don't doubt it. Great raw materials and rewards to be had if it can come together. In the Big East, there is a fine line between disappointing year and a good one. SJU could grab the 10th or 11th Big East bid into the tourney and be dancing. Or 11 or 12 could be sitting at home. I hope we can sneak into one of the bottom spots. Not out of the question.
I think the Big East is a nine bid conference this year due to the perceived lackluster performance last year. Also, the conferences that were down last year likely will be better. I think we take some big lumps, but the SOS could be a savior once again.
If there is a borderline SJU team this season with a SOS ranked #1, which I'm pretty confident it will be, then it will make it tough for the NCAA committee to turn us down. Not just us. Teams like WVU, Notre Dame and maybe even Georgetown Nova I think we can creep ahead if we play well down the stretch. It will be a brutal Big East again, but lots of those schools lost top players. Not going to be easy for Georgetown without Wright and Freeman. Those guys were their bread and butter. Notre Dame without Hansbrough, Carleton Scott, Nash etc.. We will struggle for sure, but with our SOS and RPI I'm hoping we can sneak one of those lower spots into the NCAA's. We'll see. Our league just needs to do what we have been and win our OOC games...
Why not us? Why cant we be good? I dont think we will be a top Big East team but plenty of teams have had a loaded freshman class and have faced success. No doubt we take our lumps and growing pains but i'm more interested to see this team in late Feb and March rather then November. At the end of the year we can be very dangerous
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Lavin already said this year would be the toughest job he's ever had to do. I don't doubt it. Great raw materials and rewards to be had if it can come together. In the Big East, there is a fine line between disappointing year and a good one. SJU could grab the 10th or 11th Big East bid into the tourney and be dancing. Or 11 or 12 could be sitting at home. I hope we can sneak into one of the bottom spots. Not out of the question.
I think the Big East is a nine bid conference this year due to the perceived lackluster performance last year. Also, the conferences that were down last year likely will be better. I think we take some big lumps, but the SOS could be a savior once again.
If there is a borderline SJU team this season with a SOS ranked #1, which I'm pretty confident it will be, then it will make it tough for the NCAA committee to turn us down. Not just us. Teams like WVU, Notre Dame and maybe even Georgetown Nova I think we can creep ahead if we play well down the stretch. It will be a brutal Big East again, but lots of those schools lost top players. Not going to be easy for Georgetown without Wright and Freeman. Those guys were their bread and butter. Notre Dame without Hansbrough, Carleton Scott, Nash etc.. We will struggle for sure, but with our SOS and RPI I'm hoping we can sneak one of those lower spots into the NCAA's. We'll see. Our league just needs to do what we have been and win our OOC games...
Why not us? Why cant we be good? I dont think we will be a top Big East team but plenty of teams have had a loaded freshman class and have faced success. No doubt we take our lumps and growing pains but i'm more interested to see this team in late Feb and March rather then November. At the end of the year we can be very dangerous
I'm not saying we can't be good. Freshman usually play ugly and make a ton of mistakes. I expect to take some lumps. It's hard to say with a group this deep and talented. The country has never seen anything like this class. The thing is we don't have top 20 talent...surefire first rounders. I think Notre dame will be way better than what anyone on this board is predicting. There is just no way in my mind that we come close to their overall record next seson. Experience is huge in the NCAA.
I'll say this, though...if we can slide into the NCAA Tournament somehow, I think we are very dangerous team with nothing to lose.
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Lavin already said this year would be the toughest job he's ever had to do. I don't doubt it. Great raw materials and rewards to be had if it can come together. In the Big East, there is a fine line between disappointing year and a good one. SJU could grab the 10th or 11th Big East bid into the tourney and be dancing. Or 11 or 12 could be sitting at home. I hope we can sneak into one of the bottom spots. Not out of the question.
I think the Big East is a nine bid conference this year due to the perceived lackluster performance last year. Also, the conferences that were down last year likely will be better. I think we take some big lumps, but the SOS could be a savior once again.
If there is a borderline SJU team this season with a SOS ranked #1, which I'm pretty confident it will be, then it will make it tough for the NCAA committee to turn us down. Not just us. Teams like WVU, Notre Dame and maybe even Georgetown Nova I think we can creep ahead if we play well down the stretch. It will be a brutal Big East again, but lots of those schools lost top players. Not going to be easy for Georgetown without Wright and Freeman. Those guys were their bread and butter. Notre Dame without Hansbrough, Carleton Scott, Nash etc.. We will struggle for sure, but with our SOS and RPI I'm hoping we can sneak one of those lower spots into the NCAA's. We'll see. Our league just needs to do what we have been and win our OOC games...
Why not us? Why cant we be good? I dont think we will be a top Big East team but plenty of teams have had a loaded freshman class and have faced success. No doubt we take our lumps and growing pains but i'm more interested to see this team in late Feb and March rather then November. At the end of the year we can be very dangerous
I'm not saying we can't be good. Freshman usually play ugly and make a ton of mistakes. I expect to take some lumps. It's hard to say with a group this deep and talented. The country has never seen anything like this class. The thing is we don't have top 20 talent...surefire first rounders. I think Notre dame will be way better than what anyone on this board is predicting. There is just no way in my mind that we come close to their overall record next seson. Experience is huge in the NCAA.
I'll say this, though...if we can slide into the NCAA Tournament somehow, I think we are very dangerous team with nothing to lose.
I wasn't disagreeing with your post it was more of a general statement. I dont expect everyone to catch on right away but as of now I have faith in us having a successful year until i'm proven otherwise
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Lavin already said this year would be the toughest job he's ever had to do. I don't doubt it. Great raw materials and rewards to be had if it can come together. In the Big East, there is a fine line between disappointing year and a good one. SJU could grab the 10th or 11th Big East bid into the tourney and be dancing. Or 11 or 12 could be sitting at home. I hope we can sneak into one of the bottom spots. Not out of the question.
I think the Big East is a nine bid conference this year due to the perceived lackluster performance last year. Also, the conferences that were down last year likely will be better. I think we take some big lumps, but the SOS could be a savior once again.
If there is a borderline SJU team this season with a SOS ranked #1, which I'm pretty confident it will be, then it will make it tough for the NCAA committee to turn us down. Not just us. Teams like WVU, Notre Dame and maybe even Georgetown Nova I think we can creep ahead if we play well down the stretch. It will be a brutal Big East again, but lots of those schools lost top players. Not going to be easy for Georgetown without Wright and Freeman. Those guys were their bread and butter. Notre Dame without Hansbrough, Carleton Scott, Nash etc.. We will struggle for sure, but with our SOS and RPI I'm hoping we can sneak one of those lower spots into the NCAA's. We'll see. Our league just needs to do what we have been and win our OOC games...
Why not us? Why cant we be good? I dont think we will be a top Big East team but plenty of teams have had a loaded freshman class and have faced success. No doubt we take our lumps and growing pains but i'm more interested to see this team in late Feb and March rather then November. At the end of the year we can be very dangerous
I'm not saying we can't be good. Freshman usually play ugly and make a ton of mistakes. I expect to take some lumps. It's hard to say with a group this deep and talented. The country has never seen anything like this class. The thing is we don't have top 20 talent...surefire first rounders. I think Notre dame will be way better than what anyone on this board is predicting. There is just no way in my mind that we come close to their overall record next seson. Experience is huge in the NCAA.
I'll say this, though...if we can slide into the NCAA Tournament somehow, I think we are very dangerous team with nothing to lose.
I wasn't disagreeing with your post it was more of a general statement. I dont expect everyone to catch on right away but as of now I have faith in us having a successful year until i'm proven otherwise
I believe this kind of thinking undervalues our coaching staff. I think it's true the normal heavily frosh laden teams have serious issues and struggle. However, Coach Lavin has experience - his 2nd team had an all frosh backcourt - Baron Davis and Earl Watson. His second team had an all soph backcourt, and an all frosh frontcourt, with frosh as his 6th and 7th men, and sophs as his 8th-10th men. (Dan Gadzuric, JaRon Rush and Jerome Moiso were the starting frontcourt. Matt Barnes backed up the forward spots, Ray young the guard spots. Sophs Billy Knight, Rico Hines and Trevor Reed were the bench.
Each of those teams won 21 plus games, and made the dance.
And that's not including that these frosh are going to be subjected to Mike Dunlap from the get-go. And a Hall of Fame coach in Gene Keady will be advising on integrating these kids. And Rico Hines will be whipping them into shape.
I think this team will gel early, and truly be a force by midseason.
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Well, this sucks.
Jeff Borzello
JaKarr Sampson's former AAU coach, Don Anderson, confirmed that Sampson indeed decommitted from St. John's and reopened his recruitment.
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why decommit.....why not just take your 3 classes and get ready to play in dec. this kid is an idiot. those other 2 better qualify and be here on dec 19
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What a shitty week for #stjbb.
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why decommit.....why not just take your 3 classes and get ready to play in dec. this kid is an idiot. those other 2 better qualify and be here on dec 19
well, that confirms it. AAU coach slipped up the first day and spilled the beans, tried to take it back. But it was true. Usually this spells doom, although in a few cases guys stick with their commit school. I'd say close to only 5-10% of the time. I hope JaKarr comes here again, but I would not bet on it.
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why decommit.....why not just take your 3 classes and get ready to play in dec. this kid is an idiot. those other 2 better qualify and be here on dec 19
well, that confirms it. AAU coach slipped up the first day and spilled the beans, tried to take it back. But it was true. Usually this spells doom, although in a few cases guys stick with their commit school. I'd say close to only 5-10% of the time. I hope JaKarr comes here again, but I would not bet on it.
Didn't Ledo recommit to Providence after opening up his recruitment or was that situation different from this?
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why decommit.....why not just take your 3 classes and get ready to play in dec. this kid is an idiot. those other 2 better qualify and be here on dec 19
well, that confirms it. AAU coach slipped up the first day and spilled the beans, tried to take it back. But it was true. Usually this spells doom, although in a few cases guys stick with their commit school. I'd say close to only 5-10% of the time. I hope JaKarr comes here again, but I would not bet on it.
Didn't Ledo recommit to Providence after opening up his recruitment or was that situation different from this?
Well, nothing caused the decommit except allegedly telling mom about his Providence "good time." Even so, we could generously put him in that 5-10% case, as with Nick Faust, who went back with Turge.
But in most cases the guys who transfer at least once in HS, do so twice as much chance in college, as well as decommit one time, ala Luke Winn's SI piece.
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Just got the news on another site.......
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For what it's worth, it appears that Garrett is likely the only one of the three to be passionate about coming here. Don't shoot the messenger, simply sharing what a donor friend told me. IMHO Pelle has always been a bit mercurial and never gave me a sense of comfort re: his commitment.
Coach Lavin sure has his work cut out for him, with all that's going on, but he is a committed guy with a great staff, who will just need a little more time than we hoped to turn this program around. More importantly, I hope his treatment results are positive and none of these challenges complicate that. Things can only get better fellas.
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Lately, everyday brings bad news. Im afraid to check JJ tomorow. I still,however have faith in Lavin.
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For what it's worth, it appears that Garrett is likely the only one of the three to be passionate about coming here. Don't shoot the messenger, simply sharing what a donor friend told me. IMHO Pelle has always been a bit mercurial and never gave me a sense of comfort re: his commitment.
Coach Lavin sure has his work cut out for him, with all that's going on, but he is a committed guy with a great staff, who will just need a little more time than we hoped to turn this program around. More importantly, I hope his treatment results are positive and none of these challenges complicate that. Things can only get better fellas.
I wonder if Lavs and co. get involved with some guys who are still open, like Parker, Upshaw or J. James, now that they'd know C position is wide open for PT. It would be late in the game, but I would never count this staff out when they may have some time to make up ground. the timing isn't great, but it's still possible if they hurry.
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Way to hang in there jakar, lol what a joke. Might be better off if thats the way he handles adversity. Seems to me that Amir is a stand up kid
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I'm sorry because I know these guys are just kids but this is ridiculous. The kid doesn't get his work done and then leaves us high and dry when he could just commit himself to school for the fall and be back in December. This is a very selfish move on his part.
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I'm sorry because I know these guys are just kids but this is ridiculous. The kid doesn't get his work done and then leaves us high and dry when he could just commit himself to school for the fall and be back in December. This is a very selfish move on his part.
When do commitments "really" mean commitments in today's world? Sad but true, but it's a dwindling, fading notion in society in general.
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Sampson is well advised and this is what he should do. What if Lavin and St. John's went another route and recruited someone else for next year instead of him? He'd be left screwed.
It's a 2 way street. Maybe he ends up at St. John's in December, September, or maybe somewhere else. It happens don't get hung up on it.
I hope JaKarr gets his academics in order and continues to see success on the court. He's a really nice kid and deserves the best.
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Dave, decent point however if that was the case why come here with 4 other wings in the first place?
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Sampson is well advised and this is what he should do. What if Lavin and St. John's went another route and recruited someone else for next year instead of him? He'd be left screwed.
It's a 2 way street. Maybe he ends up at St. John's in December, September, or maybe somewhere else. It happens don't get hung up on it.
I hope JaKarr gets his academics in order and continues to see success on the court. He's a really nice kid and deserves the best.
That's the hard part. All of the guys are likeable with good personalities. I only wish for all players that their academic futures were more actively monitored and guided by the 2A in a more preemptive manner. This last minute stuff has been nonsense from the beginning of time, it just hurts to see 3 of the guys go through it at once.
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Bad news keeps rolling in. Hopefully he comes back it would really suck to lose him a great player and person. Also if he signed his letter of intent, how can he decommit is it because he failed to qualify?
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Bad news keeps rolling in. Hopefully he comes back it would really suck to lose him a great player and person. Also if he signed his letter of intent, how can he decommit is it because he failed to qualify?
Yes...I believe the letter of intent is now null and void.
Hopefully he makes it to campus...he is a unique talent.
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Also its ridiculous the lack of loyalty some people have towards these guys. I'm not happy about this situation either but every time someone decommits some posters just openly bash them. He has to do whats best for him, this decision could effect his whole life.
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Bad news keeps rolling in. Hopefully he comes back it would really suck to lose him a great player and person. Also if he signed his letter of intent, how can he decommit is it because he failed to qualify?
Yes...I believe the letter of intent is now null and void.
Hopefully he makes it to campus...he is a unique talent.
Thanks for clearing that up, I'm with you got my fingers crossed hopefully he is just weighing his options
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Sampson is well advised and this is what he should do. What if Lavin and St. John's went another route and recruited someone else for next year instead of him? He'd be left screwed.
It's a 2 way street. Maybe he ends up at St. John's in December, September, or maybe somewhere else. It happens don't get hung up on it.
I hope JaKarr gets his academics in order and continues to see success on the court. He's a really nice kid and deserves the best.
A little too PC for me there Dave. The way he did it (McGary twitter) and the back and forth quotes are troublesome. The question boils down to does STJ still want Jakarr. Do they only want him for December? Would they also be fine with him coming Fall of 2012? Right now all of these guys are free agents. No LOI is holding them in place. There comes a point when some loyalty has to be shown. Not just to the staff but to your future teammates. If the questions I broached above were answered and unfavorable then it makes sense for him to decommitt, even though technically hes not even committed right now.
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Each party is protecting themselves. This is the nature of college basketball. Making a bigger deal out of this than necessary.
I'd love to see JaKarr here probably more than anyone and 2013 class is loaded with bigs. Anything is possible.
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Each party is protecting themselves. This is the nature of college basketball. Making a bigger deal out of this than necessary.
I'd love to see JaKarr here probably more than anyone and 2013 class is loaded with bigs. Anything is possible.
I love how you never quote when responding :)
And thats great about 2013. But who is playing 4/5 the next 2 yrs. I have eligibilty left.
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Well its clear Amir is more driven by this setback it shows alot, especially for a kid who could walk away and play pro baseball. Nobody is bashing jakar
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question? If JaKarr was in prep school last year, can he go to a prep school for a second year or must he now go the Juco route?
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question? If JaKarr was in prep school last year, can he go to a prep school for a second year or must he now go the Juco route?
Last year was his Sr. year. He is doing post grad now.
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Can we move him out of the top section since he is no longer committed to St. John's
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Why does Jakkar deserve the best? Seems like he's getting exactly what he deserves.
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Dave, with all due respect, this is a big deal. This team has no size. If they played in the MAAC, they'd be undersized.
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Can we move him out of the top section since he is no longer committed to St. John's
Now how about we move him to Class of 2012. ; )
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Providence? Really?
BrewsterHoops Jason Smith
#Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 had a great meeting with #PROVIDENCE head coach Ed Cooley and assistant @CoachSimon10 this AM!
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Can someone explain why he would decommit from us to go to Providence?
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he should worry more about the books right now than meetings.
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Can someone explain why he would decommit from us to go to Providence?
Because Ed Cooley is awesome.
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Can someone explain why he would decommit from us to go to Providence?
Because he's a traitor?
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I lose more and more respect for this kid everyday. Its one thing to mess up with your studies but then to leave us high and dry and now to be looking at other BE schools. I hope the staff forgets about him and moves on this kids is showing to be pretty classless.
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If Sampson spends the entire year at Brewster again and then goes to PC, they will have a Top 10 Class.
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Lol just said in another thread I am not mad at them for looking at options but C'mon dude go out of conference. It is all good maurice Harkless will chewy him out and spit him out next year :knuppel2:
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If Sampson spends the entire year at Brewster again and then goes to PC, they will have a Top 10 Class.
Providence is already ranked at #5 with the latest rankings. Of course, this possible mess in the making has nothing to do with rankings. Secondly, if JaKarr hears Ed and staff out, it's his choice. But if he goes there of his own volition, then I will make judgments about his character and frame of mind when it comes to decision making. On that note, I generally wonder how many recruits sign the LOI in November of their senior year, and then later regret it when on campus thinking, "Shoot, I'm locked in, but this really isn't the place for me. I made a mistake." There have to be some who do not think through their choice. But they're stuck because of the LOI.
Most frosh go through growing pains missing home. I wonder what part that will play on Norvel. Months ago, when the rumors started, I was on the side of any frosh, athlete or not, goes through a process when they're finally away from home. I can only wonder with all the current stress if familiarity and longing for home is what gives Norvel doubts.
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Hopefully we get some kind of sign if we still have interest in him (or if he has interest in us) soon.
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If Sampson spends the entire year at Brewster again and then goes to PC, they will have a Top 10 Class.
They arguably have one now, no?
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If Sampson spends the entire year at Brewster again and then goes to PC, they will have a Top 10 Class.
They arguably have one now, no?
Moose - yes - they're at #5 already
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What is this kid thinking? He has good friends at STJ and 25-30 mpg waiting for him. Is he really that afraid of Gathers?
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What is this kid thinking? He has good friends at STJ and 25-30 mpg waiting for him. Is he really that afraid of Gathers?
If he really is looking elsewhere because of pt we don't want him. Only a princess would do that.
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What is this kid thinking? He has good friends at STJ and 25-30 mpg waiting for him. Is he really that afraid of Gathers?
I'm wondering the same thing because I know he loves St. Johns or at least did. I wouldn't think it would be Gathers coming in because they are very different players from each other. My only guess could be he doesn't trust the staff after the Philly debacle but even that doesn't seem fair. Hopefully he is just looking around to make sure he 100% wants to stay at St. Johns
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Providence and Baylor on Brewster campus today.
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I also saw something about Kansas being I at one point to look at him.
FWIW he is still in contact with Garrett and Pelle, so hopefully he still has loyalty to the guys he committed with. Garrett seems to be a leader and hopefully reminds him of what they can do at St. Johns.
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I must admit I vacillate between being hopeful our 3 wayward recruits intend to remain in the fold and upset with Jakarr and Norvel that they do not seem fully committed to ST J. However I now think the best course of action we can take right now is to take a chill pill and just remain hopeful they all end up at ST J. They are 18 years old and were thrown a curve ball and may just need time to sort things out. Besides if coach Lavin really still wants them back it is his job to rerecruit them and remember he did a very good job the first time.
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Providence and Baylor on Brewster campus today.
How much money was in the Baylor duffle bag?
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Why would anyone want to go to Baylor?
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and I think one particular poster here referred to BEB as a sewer...
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
I forget, how did Calhoun spurn Harkless?
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
I forget, how did Calhoun spurn Harkless?
He brought in a guy or two after his verbal last year. The German guy I think. And some other one.
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
I forget, how did Calhoun spurn Harkless?
He brought in a guy or two after his verbal last year. The German guy I think. And some other one.
Uconn fans say it was a bit more than that even from the pieces I remember.
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
I forget, how did Calhoun spurn Harkless?
He brought in a guy or two after his verbal last year. The German guy I think. And some other one.
Uconn fans say it was a bit more than that even from the pieces I remember.
Can you expand?
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
I forget, how did Calhoun spurn Harkless?
He brought in a guy or two after his verbal last year. The German guy I think. And some other one.
So Harkless decommiting after another guy or two commit too makes it Calhoun spurning Harkless (if thats the real or main reason he decommited). Yet people were ripping Sampson that maybe hes opening up his commitment again because of Gathers and competition. You cant have it both ways.
Moose im not talking about you, im just talking about people on this site in general.
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
I forget, how did Calhoun spurn Harkless?
He brought in a guy or two after his verbal last year. The German guy I think. And some other one.
So Harkless decommiting after another guy or two commit too makes it Calhoun spurning Harkless (if thats the real or main reason he decommited). Yet people were ripping Sampson that maybe hes opening up his commitment again because of Gathers and competition. You cant have it both ways.
Moose im not talking about you, im just talking about people on this site in general.
Thank you for clarifying your post was not directed at me.
Its a little different though. From what I recall Moe was committed and Calhoun brought in one or two other guys to arrive on campus before him. With Jakarr thats not the case as Gathers is coming either with him or after him. But it sounds like MCN has a different angle. I just recall the commitments and Giffey and someone else changing things for Moe.
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Didn't Harkless decommit after there was an investigation into Connecticut. I thought this played a big role into why he reopened his recruitment.
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and I think one particular poster here referred to BEB as a sewer...
War's over.
You lost.
Deal.
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Didn't Harkless decommit after there was an investigation into Connecticut. I thought this played a big role into why he reopened his recruitment.
Forgot about that. Primarily because it was a wrist slap which is why it went over my head.
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Choz - the international man of mystery - there never was a war with me.
Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
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Cincinnati, Kentucky, and NC State will check out Brewster trio including Jakarr Sampson today per The Recruit Scoop.
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New article on Scout. Im not a subscriber so not sure if there is anything new in it.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1111114&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1111114.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1111114&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1111114.html)
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New article on Scout. Im not a subscriber so not sure if there is anything new in it.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1111114&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1111114.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1111114&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1111114.html)
Just that if you believe his coach at Brewster he is much improved over last year with his recruitment wide open and ST J still an option although Dec is highly unlikely cause Brewster is on a trimester system.
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I am seeing some articles that have Sampson playing for Brewster this year. Does this mean that he is definitely not going to be able to be eligible in December wherever he decides to go?
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To get back on topic, I'd be pisses if Jakarr ends up picking another big east school like Providence. It's not like Lavin spurned Jakarr ala Jim Calhoun spurning Harkless. Lavi. Was committed to getting Jakarr in here and being part of the close-knit group we were trying to build.
I forget, how did Calhoun spurn Harkless?
I think many if the Uconn fans said that Calhoun fell off from contacting Harkless etc. Don't remember exactly though.
He brought in a guy or two after his verbal last year. The German guy I think. And some other one.
Uconn fans say it was a bit more than that even from the pieces I remember.
Can you expand?
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I am seeing some articles that have Sampson playing for Brewster this year. Does this mean that he is definitely not going to be able to be eligible in December wherever he decides to go?
Brewster coach says it will be difficult as they have a trimester system.
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Mike Dunlap will be visiting with Sampson tomorrow as will a Pitt assistant coach.
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Mike Dunlap will be visiting with Sampson tomorrow as will a Pitt assistant coach.
not very often that we hear of Dunlap on recruiting visits. this is interesting...
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Sampson official visit to Baylor this weekend per Brewster Hoops twitter.
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Mike Dunlap will be visiting with Sampson tomorrow as will a Pitt assistant coach.
not very often that we hear of Dunlap on recruiting visits. this is interesting...
If my memory serves me correctly, I recall (and I'm sure one of you will confirm) that coach Dunlap surprised some last year when it was posted on JJ and Redmen that he was impressing some recruits to the point where he had big influence in coach's "gang-tackling" approach. I'm not sure if JaKarr is one of the players who mentioned him back then.
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Jason Smith
#Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 will host #Baylor coach Scott Drew, #StJohn's coach Steve Lavin, and #Providence coach Ed Cooley this week.
The fact that Lavin closed once on this kid makes me confident that he'll do it again. And I know Jakarr hasn't seemed as committed as coming back to St. John's as Amir and Norvel, but if Lavin is still invested in this kid, I don't think we should turn our back on him on this board.
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Jason Smith
#Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 will host #Baylor coach Scott Drew, #StJohn's coach Steve Lavin, and #Providence coach Ed Cooley this week.
The fact that Lavin closed once on this kid makes me confident that he'll do it again. And I know Jakarr hasn't seemed as committed as coming back to St. John's as Amir and Norvel, but if Lavin is still invested in this kid, I don't think we should turn our back on him on this board.
If JaKarr was not serious about considering coming back, Coach would not be pulling the Ark into port ;D And if he gets the feeling he has no intention of coming back, he will quickly move on.
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Jason Smith
#Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 will host #Baylor coach Scott Drew, #StJohn's coach Steve Lavin, and #Providence coach Ed Cooley this week.
The fact that Lavin closed once on this kid makes me confident that he'll do it again. And I know Jakarr hasn't seemed as committed as coming back to St. John's as Amir and Norvel, but if Lavin is still invested in this kid, I don't think we should turn our back on him on this board.
If JaKarr was not serious about considering coming back, Coach would not be pulling the Ark into port ;D And if he gets the feeling he has no intention of coming back, he will quickly move on.
Agreed. It also goes to show that even if it is for 2012 rather then 2011 JaKarr is better then the other realistic options for SJU at this point.
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Jason Smith
#Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 will host #Baylor coach Scott Drew, #StJohn's coach Steve Lavin, and #Providence coach Ed Cooley this week.
The fact that Lavin closed once on this kid makes me confident that he'll do it again. And I know Jakarr hasn't seemed as committed as coming back to St. John's as Amir and Norvel, but if Lavin is still invested in this kid, I don't think we should turn our back on him on this board.
If JaKarr was not serious about considering coming back, Coach would not be pulling the Ark into port ;D And if he gets the feeling he has no intention of coming back, he will quickly move on.
Agreed. It also goes to show that even if it is for 2012 rather then 2011 JaKarr is better then the other realistic options for SJU at this point.
A terrific fit is a terrific fit, regardless of class year. I have no doubt JaKarr will thrive in the system, and it will enhance his chances to get 2 the pros. If he were not to choose SJ's, I hope he chooses wisely because the grass isn't always greener...
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More than willing to accept Jakarr back with open arms! The prodigal son returns? :)
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More than willing to accept Jakarr back with open arms! The prodigal son returns? :)
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Per Zags.... Mark Turgeon (Maryland) is supposedly going to Brewster today to watch Sampson, as well as Mitch McGary.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/04/baylor-going-big-on-brewsters-sampson/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/04/baylor-going-big-on-brewsters-sampson/)
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More than willing to accept Jakarr back with open arms! The prodigal son returns? :)
I do too but if another top 50-60 kid who plays the 3/4 becomes available, we got to cut it off with Sampson
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More than willing to accept Jakarr back with open arms! The prodigal son returns? :)
I do too but if another top 50-60 kid who plays the 3/4 becomes available, we got to cut it off with Sampson
Huh? Why in the world wouldn't you want TWO top 50-60 kids who play the 3/4????????
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More than willing to accept Jakarr back with open arms! The prodigal son returns? :)
I do too but if another top 50-60 kid who plays the 3/4 becomes available, we got to cut it off with Sampson
Huh? Why in the world wouldn't you want TWO top 50-60 kids who play the 3/4????????
Front court help is needed more and there are scholarship limits.
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More than willing to accept Jakarr back with open arms! The prodigal son returns? :)
Its just too bad that coach Lavin, with more important things on his mind (as in his health) has to spend time chasing after a "de-commit" who has exhibited no loyalty to the St. John's family at all. Personally, I say ... move on. If the person exhibits such behavior before the wedding, what can one expect later on.
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realfan is right. We shouldn't be chasing him. We already did our part as a University. When he grows up and does his, it could be revisited. We'll see if he gets it together.
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Its just too bad that coach Lavin, with more important things on his mind (as in his health) has to spend time chasing after a "de-commit" who has exhibited no loyalty to the St. John's family at all.
And that's why he's a master recruiter. I honestly expect all 17-year-olds to be dopey, but a parent or coach should point out to Sampson that Lavin was scheduled for surgery, and instead of taking it easy, trekked up there to see him before entering the hospital. Unfortunately, I suspect the coach is kind of a dick.
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Its just too bad that coach Lavin, with more important things on his mind (as in his health) has to spend time chasing after a "de-commit" who has exhibited no loyalty to the St. John's family at all.
And that's why he's a master recruiter. I honestly expect all 17-year-olds to be dopey, but a parent or coach should point out to Sampson that Lavin was scheduled for surgery, and instead of taking it easy, trekked up there to see him before entering the hospital. Unfortunately, I suspect the coach is kind of a dick.
His AAU coach?
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Its just too bad that coach Lavin, with more important things on his mind (as in his health) has to spend time chasing after a "de-commit" who has exhibited no loyalty to the St. John's family at all.
And that's why he's a master recruiter. I honestly expect all 17-year-olds to be dopey, but a parent or coach should point out to Sampson that Lavin was scheduled for surgery, and instead of taking it easy, trekked up there to see him before entering the hospital. Unfortunately, I suspect the coach is kind of a dick.
His AAU coach?
Don't want to speak for him but I think he means Brewster coach.
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Its just too bad that coach Lavin, with more important things on his mind (as in his health) has to spend time chasing after a "de-commit" who has exhibited no loyalty to the St. John's family at all.
And that's why he's a master recruiter. I honestly expect all 17-year-olds to be dopey, but a parent or coach should point out to Sampson that Lavin was scheduled for surgery, and instead of taking it easy, trekked up there to see him before entering the hospital. Unfortunately, I suspect the coach is kind of a dick.
His AAU coach?
Don't want to speak for him but I think he means Brewster coach.
I wonder his reasoning for that, Coach Smith seems to be a great coach and guy but I may be entirely wrong
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You are correct -- I was talking about Brewster's coach. Although after those initial statements when the news first broke, the AAU guy proved himself to be kind of a dick as well.
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I wonder his reasoning for that, Coach Smith seems to be a great coach and guy but I may be entirely wrong
I may be entirely wrong, too. It's just a vibe I'm getting from him.
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I wonder his reasoning for that, Coach Smith seems to be a great coach and guy but I may be entirely wrong
I may be entirely wrong, too. It's just a vibe I'm getting from him.
I've heard there is more smoke where that fire comes from.
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Not that I expected him to come, but Sampson is not attending any midnight madness events. I guess its good that he isn't going to any other schools, but being that Brewster is pretty close I was hoping he would come to St Johns.
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Is Jakarr gone for good? If he's still open does he rethink us (for next season) if Garrett and Pelle are onboard come Dec.? What was Jakarr's relationship with the other frosh (and Lavin) before the NCAA hammer came down? I didn't like his quick decommit but maybe he still wants to join up seeing everyone else oncourt? Or just wishful thinking...
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BrewsterHoops Jason Smith
#Baylor #Pitt #Providence all expected to attend Open Gym today at #Brewster to evaluate @KarrSampson14
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
At this point it would appear more likely to me to see Ralph Sampson hitting the floor for St Johns before Jakarr lol
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
At this point it would appear more likely to me to see Ralph Sampson hitting the floor for St Johns before Jakarr lol
Why? What do you know that our other well informed posters don't know? Haven't heard the experts say he is no longer a possibility.
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
At this point it would appear more likely to me to see Ralph Sampson hitting the floor for St Johns before Jakarr lol
Why? What do you know that our other well informed posters don't know? Haven't heard the experts say he is no longer a possibility.
Actually a lot have hinted its a big uphill fight.
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
At this point it would appear more likely to me to see Ralph Sampson hitting the floor for St Johns before Jakarr lol
Why? What do you know that our other well informed posters don't know? Haven't heard the experts say he is no longer a possibility.
Actually a lot have hinted its a big uphill fight.
Less likely than signing Ralph Sampson as was opined?
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
At this point it would appear more likely to me to see Ralph Sampson hitting the floor for St Johns before Jakarr lol
Why? What do you know that our other well informed posters don't know? Haven't heard the experts say he is no longer a possibility.
Actually a lot have hinted its a big uphill fight.
Less likely than signing Ralph Sampson as was opined?
Does Ralph have eligibility left?
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Don't think so but I once told Dickie V that the Knicks should trade their whole team for Ralphie boy. :idiot2: On the other hand I was right about not liking the Knicks trading Lonnie Shelton to Seattle for Marvin the Human Eraser Webster as Lonnie helped the Sonics to the NBA championship.
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Don't think so but I once told Dickie V that the Knicks should trade their whole team for Ralphie boy. :idiot2: On the other hand I was right about not liking the Knicks trading Lonnie Shelton to Seattle for Marvin the Human Eraser Webster as Lonnie helped the Sonics to the NBA championship.
Way before my time :)
But as for Jakarr its just a question of is there mutual interest and is the juice worth the squeeze. Both are 50/50 I think. There are some feelings lingering from not qualifying and you have to think that out of 3 kids, one might want a fresh start. Also coming in for this year is different than next year. So who knows but Ralph might be a safer bet :)
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I'm passed expecting Jakarr to be here at SJU. At least Garrett and Pelle have said they are on board. I know Garrett is committed to getting here this December. Pelle I think is also, but my guess is that he's tired of the situation he got himself into and our best bet at seeing him in a SJU uniform is having him get qualified this December. I'm ok with moving past Jakarr if he doesn't want to be here. I really dont want to lose Pelle who I think has a chance to be special with the right coaching at SJU.
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
At this point it would appear more likely to me to see Ralph Sampson hitting the floor for St Johns before Jakarr lol
Why? What do you know that our other well informed posters don't know? Haven't heard the experts say he is no longer a possibility
There's a poster that gives me very accurate inside info, and has for years. His initials are CS.
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There's a poster that gives me very accurate inside info, and has for years. His initials are CS.
Chuck Schumer?
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I just hope we land Obekpa before Jakarr signs elsewhere, so the staff can have the pleasure of calling him and saying that they will no longer be recruiting him.
At this point it would appear more likely to me to see Ralph Sampson hitting the floor for St Johns before Jakarr lol
Why? What do you know that our other well informed posters don't know? Haven't heard the experts say he is no longer a possibility.
Actually a lot have hinted its a big uphill fight.
Less likely than signing Ralph Sampson as was opined?
No inside info Celtic, but the writing is on the wall, I assume if the early signing period passes and he has not signed elsewhere there is a chance he comes back but I think the Dunlap and Lavin visits up to Brewster were to ask Sampson if he was 100% on board to return to St Johns, and if not we had to explore our options as well of replacing his ship.
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No news of Jakarr taking officials to anywhere but Baylor ?
Even if he cant get eligible in Dec,
Sounds like he'll be a late signer ?
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Still keeping in touch with SJU:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/11/02/jakarr-sampson-likely-to-reclassify/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/11/02/jakarr-sampson-likely-to-reclassify/)
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Still keeing in touch with SJU:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/11/02/jakarr-sampson-likely-to-reclassify/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/11/02/jakarr-sampson-likely-to-reclassify/)
They use the trimester reason and if thats the case it can't bode well for Pelle either.
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BigEastReport The Big East Report
Hearing a lot of mixed reports on JaKarr Sampson as of late. More in favor of St. John's then not though.
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wish he could elaborate more but its good news
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I really love his game. Hope Jakarr stays on board.
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BigEastReport The Big East Report
Hearing a lot of mixed reports on JaKarr Sampson as of late. More in favor of St. John's then not though.
Bigeastreport is a St Johns student who is "reporting" what he reads elsewhere for what it is worth
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BigEastReport The Big East Report
Hearing a lot of mixed reports on JaKarr Sampson as of late. More in favor of St. John's then not though.
Bigeastreport is a St Johns student who is "reporting" what he reads elsewhere for what it is worth
Do you think it is reliable then?
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BigEastReport The Big East Report
Hearing a lot of mixed reports on JaKarr Sampson as of late. More in favor of St. John's then not though.
Bigeastreport is a St Johns student who is "reporting" what he reads elsewhere for what it is worth
Do you think it is reliable then?
There is no news with Sampson
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Here are some clips from Brewsters first game. Jakarr is at the beginning. It sounds like a long shot, but it would really be great to get this guy next year.
http://hoopdreamsmag.com/?p=2016 (http://hoopdreamsmag.com/?p=2016)
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Here are some clips from Brewsters first game. Jakarr is at the beginning. It sounds like a long shot, but it would really be great to get this guy next year.
http://hoopdreamsmag.com/?p=2016 (http://hoopdreamsmag.com/?p=2016)
Next year isn't necessarily a long shot. We're still in it.
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Not a long shot at all
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This is purely an educated guess, but I believe that Sampson is a long shot now.
Pelle- Is resigned, but can he qualify this time?
Garrett- Is resigned, but can he qualify this time?
Gathers- St. John's still leads, but it has to be concerning that he didn't sign with SJU this past week and has de-committed.
That leaves (3) more available scholarships to give for the 2012 class and/or 2013 class. WHO ARE THE CURRENT POSSIBILITIES? I know we need at least (1) Center, (1) PF and one other Forward or Wing player.
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If they have 3 ships, we need 3 big men. They don't all have to centers, but there is no room for another guard/wing.
And it would show a real lack of planning of if we did add another player that we don't need.
We've been out rebounded by W&M, Lehigh and UMBC. We need big men.
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If they have 3 ships, we need 3 big men. They don't all have to centers, but there is no room for another guard/wing.
And it would show a real lack of planning of if we did add another player that we don't need.
We've been out rebounded by W&M, Lehigh and UMBC. We need big men.
We were outrebounded by a lot of teams last year. Still got so far.
What is the rebounding margin? I put more stock in that than if we were losing 31-29 on the boards.
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This is purely an educated guess, but I believe that Sampson is a long shot now.
Pelle- Is resigned, but can he qualify this time?
Garrett- Is resigned, but can he qualify this time?
Gathers- St. John's still leads, but it has to be concerning that he didn't sign with SJU this past week and has de-committed.
That leaves (3) more available scholarships to give for the 2012 class and/or 2013 class. WHO ARE THE CURRENT POSSIBILITIES? I know we need at least (1) Center, (1) PF and one other Forward or Wing player.
Just an fyi, but Pelle DE-committed. And many posters are saying we may not pursue him any further. Regardless of if his grades come through.
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I'd still take Jakarr in a heartbeat. He's a 6'9" combo forward who is a very good rebounder and could easily play several front court spots for us. I hope he's still on our radar and we on his. Big fan of his game. He'd be a great addition and I'm pretty sure the staff isn't just moving on from him totally unless he has totally ruled us out, which I doubt. I wasn't happy about him decommiting, but at least he did it right away and didn't play games like Norvel.
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It's great to be in a position to not have to sweat these kids no matter their behavior and maturity.
If he gets it together, then fine. If not, oh well.
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If Baylor is in the mix then kiss him good bye
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If Baylor is in the mix then kiss him good bye
Meaning?
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If Baylor is in the mix then kiss him good bye
They were in the mix last season, as well. Unless, you have a sneaky suspicion Baylor will not play by the rule$ this time around.
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If Baylor is in the mix then kiss him good bye
They were in the mix last season, as well. Unless, you have a sneaky suspicion Baylor will not play by the rule$ this time around.
Dink
Are you getting up to a game this year?
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If Baylor is in the mix then kiss him good bye
They were in the mix last season, as well. Unless, you have a sneaky suspicion Baylor will not play by the rule$ this time around.
Dink
Are you getting up to a game this year?
Actually, one of my best friends' has been away in Afghanistan for the past year (he's a big G'town fan). He'll be home in a couple of weeks and we're supposedly planning on coming up for the Johnnies game versus G'town.
I'll keep you informed.
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If Baylor is in the mix then kiss him good bye
They were in the mix last season, as well. Unless, you have a sneaky suspicion Baylor will not play by the rule$ this time around.
And Baylor was in the mix for D'Angelo Harrison and he was a Texas kid.
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Adam Zagoria
#stjbb coach Steve Lavin just walked in the gym to watch JaKarr Sampson and Brewster
Good to see Coach is still keeping in touch.
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Adam Zagoria
#stjbb coach Steve Lavin just walked in the gym to watch JaKarr Sampson and Brewster
Good to see Coach is still keeping in touch.
Would love a return of all of our prodigal sons! :)
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Article by Zags: JaKarr Sampson In A Holding Pattern
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/11/19/jakarr-sampson-in-a-holding-pattern/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/11/19/jakarr-sampson-in-a-holding-pattern/)
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We luv you JaKarr and will welcome you back with open arms. You were part of the St J's family and can be again. You and the Johnnies can accomplish great things together. Good luck this season and hope to see you in red at Carnessecca and the Garden. :) :) :)
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Jakarr, this team with you, Amir, Darrick and Ricardo next year would be a top 10 team. MSG would be rocking.
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Per scout from the NPS:
Jakarr Sampson, PF/SF, Brewster – From an athletic standpoint there aren’t many guys that can compare. The 6-foot-7, 195-pound combo forward runs the floor extremely well and was among the top leapers that stepped on to the court all day. He scored quite a few buckets in the paint and attacked from the high post every opportunity he had.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1130724.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1130724.html)
Jakarr did an interview as well with Evan Daniels. Says he is wide open but says Lavin has been showing him a lot of love:
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1130743.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1130743.html)
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Jakkar out there with Mo and/or Pelle at once would be so fun to watch.
Sampson, more than anyone other recruit, is made for the St. John's system. He'd be able to flash so much versatility on defense, guarding bigs and guards, as well as doing it all on offense.
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Brewster Academy (NH) 95, Massanutten Military Academy (VA) 65
St. John’s head coach Steve Lavin and Providence head coach Ed Cooley were both in the building for this one, as was and NBA scout to see Mitch McGary. Massanutten was able to keep it close against the loaded Brewster squad, staying in a 2-3 zone and forcing Brewster to slow down their tempo. Massanutten got a great first half out of point guard Bryan Harris, who nailed four threes. After leading 48-33 at halftime, Brewster began to pull away towards the middle of the second half, capped off by a thunderous dunk by TJ Warren with five minutes to go that seemed to have taken all the wind out of Massanutten’s sails. Xavier-commit Semaj Christon had 18 points and once again controlled the tempo of the game, TJ Warren showed off his deep offensive arsenal by scoring a game-high 22 points, and Jakarr Sampson dominated around the rim on his way to 20 points. Brewster shot 67% from the floor in this one.
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/2278/National-Prep-Showcase-Day-3-Recap.php (http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/2278/National-Prep-Showcase-Day-3-Recap.php)
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TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Former St. John's signee Jakarr Sampson, a 2012 SF from Brewster (NH), is taking an unofficial visit to Pitt today, per his coach.
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JAKARR SAMPSON RECRUITING UPDATE
November 22, 2011 by NBE Blogger · Leave a Comment
Fresh off a strong performance over the weekend at the National Prep Showcase, Brewster Academy forward JaKarr Sampson easily made the list of 2011 National Prep Showcase Top Performers compiled by NBE’s National Recruiting Analyst Brian Bosworth. The 6-foot-8, 205-pound forward is a long and skilled specimen who made countless plays in and around the paint as Brewster defeated Fishburn Military Academy (91-75 on Sat) and Massanutten Military Academy (95-65 on Sun).
Sampson scored 20 points in each contest showing that he loves to face up after catching in the post at which point his first step is too quick for helpless defenders. Brewster Academy coach Jason Smith said this is an area that Sampson has improved upon in the last year.
“JaKarr has gotten stronger and has really improved his ball-handling, specifically his first step,” said Smith. “He has a very explosive first step, which allows him to beat a lot of forwards off the dribble.”
Sampson is also able to defend the rim with his supreme athleticism. One high-major college coach compared Sampson over the weekend to former UNLV star Stacy Augman, and listening to coach Smith describe and project Sampson that comparison definitely holds water.
“JaKarr is a hybrid forward,” said Smith. “He’s a match-up problem for a lot of people due to his explosive athleticism and quickness. In a year or two, JaKarr can become an elite level defender in college.”
Formerly committed to St. John’s in the 2011 class before being ruled ineligible Sampson has re-opened his recruitment and is one of the elite members of the 2012 class still left on the board and high majors are going to be fighting for his services all year. He told NBE over the weekend he now has a list of Kansas, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Providence, Baylor, Miami, and St. John’s remains in the mix. Coach Smith also mentioned Florida as a school they are hearing from in the recruiting process.
After the Naitonal Prep Showcase Sampson flew home to Ohio and took the opportunity of some downtime to go check out one of the schools on his list for an unofficial visit according to his coach.
“JaKarr flew home on Sunday for the Thanksgiving break,” said Smith. “He’s scheduled to drive to Pittsburgh for an unofficial visit. Pitt is one of many schools showing interest in JaKarr.”
After opting not to sign a letter of intent in the early signing period it is certain JaKarr Sampson will be a hotly contested recruit for many programs in the spring signing period for the Class of 2012. It is expected Sampson will take his time in the process and in the meantime he will hone his skills under Coach Smith at Brewster. This is his second season in the Brewster program and will play for a team that will content for a NEPSAC and National Prep title this season. We will closely follow the recruitment of Sampson and the season of Brewster as it promises to be an interesting storyline throughout the season.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-1122/jakarr-sampson-recruiting-update/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-1122/jakarr-sampson-recruiting-update/)
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I truly believe the Brewster coach uses his players for his own benefit down the line.
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I truly believe the Brewster coach uses his players for his own benefit down the line.
It surely seems that way.
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I truly believe the Brewster coach uses his players for his own benefit down the line.
If it turns out to be the case, I would say Self calls in a favor to help him land an asst gig somewhere. KU is loaded with experience of course, down to its DoBO. It's definitely a business of relationships, so let's see how this plays out. JaKarr can now pick wherever he wants and get solid PT his frosh year, but I still believe coming back with the guys and playing the 3 with RG prolly still coming in at the 4 could make the squad top 15 solid for '12-'13..
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I truly believe the Brewster coach uses his players for his own benefit down the line.
If it turns out to be the case, I would say Self calls in a favor to help him land an asst gig somewhere. KU is loaded with experience of course, down to its DoBO. It's definitely a business of relationships, so let's see how this plays out. JaKarr can now pick wherever he wants and get solid PT his frosh year, but I still believe coming back with the guys and playing the 3 with RG prolly still coming in at the 4 could make the squad top 15 solid for '12-'13..
Well it appears to me that is where Brewster wants him to go from what I heard. Smith is just way too gung ho about the recruiting process.. He tweets about it 100 times a day. Jakarr based on his comments a few days ago seems like he is still emotionally invested in St Johns and his friends on the team.
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I truly believe the Brewster coach uses his players for his own benefit down the line.
If it turns out to be the case, I would say Self calls in a favor to help him land an asst gig somewhere. KU is loaded with experience of course, down to its DoBO. It's definitely a business of relationships, so let's see how this plays out. JaKarr can now pick wherever he wants and get solid PT his frosh year, but I still believe coming back with the guys and playing the 3 with RG prolly still coming in at the 4 could make the squad top 15 solid for '12-'13..
Well it appears to me that is where Brewster wants him to go from what I heard. Smith is just way too gung ho about the recruiting process.. He tweets about it 100 times a day. Jakarr based on his comments a few days ago seems like he is still emotionally invested in St Johns and his friends on the team.
Let's just hope Jakarr is his own man and follow through to the place he committed to originally. He's got everything he needs here at SJU including his buddies already on the team and a coaching staff he's comfortable with. I wouldn't read too much into him taking some recruiting visits. Still think we're probably pretty strong with him.
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The coach at Brewster played hard ball with JaKar and the entire coaching community knows it.
Hopefully the kids gets his grades in order this year and can easily make his own decisions about where to attend.
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The coach at Brewster played hard ball with JaKar and the entire coaching community knows it.
Hopefully the kids gets his grades in order this year and can easily make his own decisions about where to attend.
Yes - between Anderson and Smith, it's a 3 ring circus in the media. But we all know Self is pressing. He can coach his way out of a light class for 2012, but he's got some pie on his face right now. I predict he'll snag two top 100's for 2012 when all is said and done.
And to me, such a no brainer for JaKarr to still come to SJ's. MSG will always be THE place to play some ball. Just listening to Bob Knight tell his Indiana stories about coming in to play at MSG the other night was something every SJ's recruit should hear.
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I saw on Evan Daniels twitter that they have a new article about Jakarr Sampson on Scout. I'm on a crappy blackberry so I can't post the link. If anyone has access to see if there's anything new in there it would be much appreciated.
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I saw on Evan Daniels twitter that they have a new article about Jakarr Sampson on Scout. I'm on a crappy blackberry so I can't post the link. If anyone has access to see if there's anything new in there it would be much appreciated.
Don't have sub but title is that recruitment is taking off and he's adding offers.
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“It has been even crazier,” explained Sampson. “Texas is the latest school to get involved in my recruitment. It has just gotten a lot crazier.”
He continued, “Mostly it is the same school, but right now my list is Baylor, Texas, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Kansas, Providence, Florida, and St. John’s.”
At the National Prep Showcase, St. John’s boss Steve Lavin was there both days Brewster was playing in an effort to get Sampson back in the fold.
“I’m real close with everybody at St. John’s,” said Sampson. “I am real close with Coach Lavin and all of the players there. I thought I was going to be there, and formed a lot of relationships. The relationship is still real good with St. John’s.”
http://scouthoops.scout.com/ (http://scouthoops.scout.com/)
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Just can't imagine him coming to St. John's. Kid's list seems to be growing, rather than shrinking, which can't be good for us.
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If the relationship is still "real good" do you back out of your commitment?
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Just can't imagine him coming to St. John's. Kid's list seems to be growing, rather than shrinking, which can't be good for us.
Everyone used to be so optimistic about our recruiting under Lavin. Now with positive statements by Jakarr and coach being able to get a committment last year from him you state you can't imagine us getting him again. Why has optimism been replaced by pessimism?
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Just can't imagine him coming to St. John's. Kid's list seems to be growing, rather than shrinking, which can't be good for us.
Everyone used to be so optimistic about our recruiting under Lavin. Now with positive statements by Jakarr and coach being able to get a committment last year from him you state you can't imagine us getting him again. Why has optimism been replaced by pessimism?
Not pessimism, realism. Kid decommitted, his coach is pushing him elsewhere and his list is growing, not shrinking.
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He de-committed but still has us on his list and stated positives about our coach and players and his relationships with them. He would not be the first kid to RECOMMIT! shurinaCheese has not been heard from in awhile but I know he is probably even more pessimistic than you.
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I am not sure if pessimism or optimism are the key words involving whether Jakarr ever recommits to us.
I think Jakarr, Norvel, Ricardo, and all other potential recruits are all concerned about Coach Lavin's health. And they should be! We all are.
I think all potential St. John's recruits are in a "wait and see" holding pattern. When Coach regains his stamina and gets back to coaching full time, these recruits and others will then begin sizing us up again.
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I am not sure if pessimism or optimism are the key words involving whether Jakarr ever recommits to us.
I think Jakarr, Norvel, Ricardo, and all other potential recruits are all concerned about Coach Lavin's health. And they should be! We all are.
I think all potential St. John's recruits are in a "wait and see" holding pattern. When Coach regains his stamina and gets
back to coaching full time, these recruits and others will then begin sizing us up again.
If that is really the reason these players have dropped us, I find that to be a rather poor showing in the character department. At least Garrett is a man about his commitment.
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I am not sure what the reasons were for the three recruits dropping us. Only they know for sure. However, I do feel that Coach's present health issues are factors that these three players (and other recruits) are watching.
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I am not sure if pessimism or optimism are the key words involving whether Jakarr ever recommits to us.
I think Jakarr, Norvel, Ricardo, and all other potential recruits are all concerned about Coach Lavin's health. And they should be! We all are.
I think all potential St. John's recruits are in a "wait and see" holding pattern. When Coach regains his stamina and gets
back to coaching full time, these recruits and others will then begin sizing us up again.
If that is really the reason these players have dropped us, I find that to be a rather poor showing in the character department. At least Garrett is a man about his commitment.
Completely agree with that poison. Here the coach is going through a recoup period and he has to worry about these --------------- coming or not. Lets just say that character is not one of their strong points. If I were coach, i would recruit around them. What are they going to do when the going gets tough at times, jump ship?
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I am not sure what the reasons were for the three recruits dropping us. Only they know for sure. However, I do feel that Coach's present health issues are factors that these three players (and other recruits) are watching.
Do these kids no the difference between Prostate cancer and bone cancer? I wonder?
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Poison, is everyone who commits to a school and later decommits someone who has poor character? Would you include Harkless in that group, who verbally committed to UConn, and then decommitted and verbally committed to us?
It's rhetorical. Grow up for once.
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Poison, is everyone who commits to a school and later decommits someone who has poor character? Would you include Harkless in that group, who verbally committed to UConn, and then decommitted and verbally committed to us?
It's rhetorical. Grow up for once.
Grow up? LOL. So because I don't agree with you I need to grow up? Do I have to school you again? It's getting old. 3 players dropped us. Not one. It's a fair assumption to believe that Lavin's health is the reason why.
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Or it might be the mass exodus of Big East schools
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Or it might be the mass exodus of Big East schools
I don't think that's it. If anything, the BE needs another 4 schools to leave. I'd love it if a total of 7 left. Play everyone twice. The BE commissioner ruined the conference when he added all of those schools from the Midwest. It was a senseless decision.
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Or it might be the mass exodus of Big East schools
I don't think that's it. If anything, the BE needs another 4 schools to leave. I'd love it if a total of 7 left. Play everyone twice. The BE commissioner ruined the conference when he added all of those schools from the Midwest. It was a senseless decision.
It's all speculation as to what weight the recent developments at St. John's/Lavin's health and the mess that BE has recently become have had on recruits' preception of SJU's program. I think it's safe to say that all factors have been used by competing schools as a means of frustrating the recruiting efforts of Lavin & co., and it may mean that our collective expectations of recruiting success needs to be downwardly adjusted going forward.
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If Syracuse & Pitt were to blame for our recruits dropping us, then we should be able to point to other schoos who are experiencing the same thing. Have any?
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Poison, I don't dispute that Lavin's health might be why. I'm criticizing you judging 18 yr olds' character by them decommitting. You're criticizing Harkless too, in that case.
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If Syracuse & Pitt were to blame for our recruits dropping us, then we should be able to point to other schoos who are experiencing the same thing. Have any?
I don't think it a fair to compare the recruiting situation of SJU with other schools, mainly because SJU's recruiting situation this past year went from being a joke to the 3rd ranked class in the country. No other school of recent memory had such a meteoric rise in its recruiting class success. Accordingly, I think SJU is an easier target for our competition/detractors to fill our recruits' heads with uncertainty as to the direction of the program in light of things like Lavin's health and the crumbling BE. I do agree, however, that the character of the recruit is also a factor. Amir's character, for example, has demonstrated his loyalty to SJU despite his eligibility set back and the other developments. I just don't think you can point to Lavin's prostate cancer as the sole reason for our recent run of bad luck on the recruiting end.
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It's not black and white guys. Recruits don't make a decision based on any one factor alone. They may be kids; but choosing a college is a big decision for any 18 year old, and probably more so for athletes who want to go pro- they're going to weigh everything.
So to say the instability of the Big East is going to have no effect? I've gotta think that's not true. Just like coach's health is probably a concern to them too.
But it's the whole package; they're looking at those things, plus style of play, plus potential playing time, and a handful of other things.
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Poison, is everyone who commits to a school and later decommits someone who has poor character? Would you include Harkless in that group, who verbally committed to UConn, and then decommitted and verbally committed to us?
It's rhetorical. Grow up for once.
Grow up? LOL. So because I don't agree with you I need to grow up? Do I have to school you again? It's getting old. 3 players dropped us. Not one. It's a fair assumption to believe that Lavin's health is the reason why.
Understand one thing, these kids are coming here only because of Lavin, not because of the school. If there is a chance that Lavin's health condition prevents him from being our coach, however small it may be, then I have no problem with these kids taking a moment to make sure everything is alright. In fact I hope that is the reason why they took a step back cause it means we have a great chance bringing them back on once Lavin returns. We as fans need to stop taking things so personally, this is the biggest decision so far for these young men, lets respect their decision making process and not be so judgmental.
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Sampson's recruitment with St. John's has nothing to do with Lavin's health.
Gathers recruitment did to a certain degree
Garrett's firm commitment is because his father goes way back with Lavin.
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
Do you want Dave to imitate the Hall fan?
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
Do you want Dave to imitate the Hall fan?
Haha, I do think that Dave has more connections than that guy with Anderson.
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
Do you want Dave to imitate the Hall fan?
mj - then it would be 14.678%, 12.246%, etc. - LOL
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
It's foolish to give percentages. St. John's is in good with Gathers but Sampson shocked the staff in opening his recruitment. It's doubtful he'll wind up here.
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
It's foolish to give percentages. St. John's is in good with Gathers but Sampson shocked the staff in opening his recruitment. It's doubtful he'll wind up here.
J Smith - KU pusher
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
It's foolish to give percentages. St. John's is in good with Gathers but Sampson shocked the staff in opening his recruitment. It's doubtful he'll wind up here.
J Smith - KU pusher
How about Pelle??
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I addition to PF's Perry Ellis and Landen Lucas and Peters, Kansas just got a commit from top rated 6'7" wing Andrew White. Gotta think, considering KU's existing talent as well as additions, this should only help us with Jakarr.
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
It's foolish to give percentages. St. John's is in good with Gathers but Sampson shocked the staff in opening his recruitment. It's doubtful he'll wind up here.
J Smith - KU pusher
How about Pelle??
Jayson Smith doesn't coach Pelle.
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
It's foolish to give percentages. St. John's is in good with Gathers but Sampson shocked the staff in opening his recruitment. It's doubtful he'll wind up here.
J Smith - KU pusher
How about Pelle??
Jayson Smith doesn't coach Pelle.
He also is far from a Kansas pusher. Yes he has a good relationship with them but not all Brewster players go the Kansas, many Brewster alums are at many different schools. I like our chances getting Jakarr back
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Dave, percentage Sampson or Gathers end up at SJU?
It's foolish to give percentages. St. John's is in good with Gathers but Sampson shocked the staff in opening his recruitment. It's doubtful he'll wind up here.
J Smith - KU pusher
How about Pelle??
Jayson Smith doesn't coach Pelle.
He also is far from a Kansas pusher. Yes he has a good relationship with them but not all Brewster players go the Kansas, many Brewster alums are at many different schools. I like our chances getting Jakarr back
Of course, with a team producing many recruits, you are stating the obvious. When is a relationship good or unhealthy? When it comes to recruiting, it's when a coach attempts to persuade a player to go to a school that the player may not have the best vibe with, but the coach pushes their own agenda w/o it looking as such. and KU's obviously a great program, so it's hard to pinpoint.
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Pretty ironic. Brewster is playing Rise academy. I can see Jakarr taking a swing at somebody.
SalmonSportsGuy Joshua Spaulding
@BrewsterHoops hosts Rise Academy at 5 p.m. at the Smith Center.
4 hours ago
Retweeted by BrewsterHoops
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SalmonSportsGuy Joshua Spaulding
@BrewsterHoops beats Rise 102-57, six Bobcats in double figures, @KarrSampson14 leads the way with 19.
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Still gotta love what Jakarr brings to the table. Not too many combo forwards in the class better than this kid.
JaKarr Sampson at the NH Prep Classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAhKMi2LKU#ws)
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Jakarr would be an AWESOME get. Kid is a gazelle in the truest sense
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Let just hope he comes back to us
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Let just hope he comes back to us
He was the second to commit in 2011 and may be the second in 2012.
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Let just hope he comes back to us
He was the second to commit in 2011 and may be the second in 2012.
Works for me....
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Let just hope he comes back to us
He was the second to commit in 2011 and may be the second in 2012.
He took a year to get the schoolwork done. He has good friends already in the team. It's a natural fit. Would love the kid to re-commit and come back home where he belongs.
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Let just hope he comes back to us
He was the second to commit in 2011 and may be the second in 2012.
He took a year to get the schoolwork done. He has good friends already in the team. It's a natural fit. Would love the kid to re-commit and come back home where he belongs.
Anyone know if Jakarr has stayed in close contact with anyone on the team? I remember Amir saying that he was working on Jakarr to re-commit to SJU, but I am curious to learn whether anyone has been consistently communicating with Jakarr.
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Let just hope he comes back to us
He was the second to commit in 2011 and may be the second in 2012.
He took a year to get the schoolwork done. He has good friends already in the team. It's a natural fit. Would love the kid to re-commit and come back home where he belongs.
Anyone know if Jakarr has stayed in close contact with anyone on the team? I remember Amir saying that he was working on Jakarr to re-commit to SJU, but I am curious to learn whether anyone has been consistently communicating with Jakarr.
He doesn't tweet much so hard to say but I have heard that he is very close to the program.
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Let just hope he comes back to us
He was the second to commit in 2011 and may be the second in 2012.
He took a year to get the schoolwork done. He has good friends already in the team. It's a natural fit. Would love the kid to re-commit and come back home where he belongs.
Anyone know if Jakarr has stayed in close contact with anyone on the team? I remember Amir saying that he was working on Jakarr to re-commit to SJU, but I am curious to learn whether anyone has been consistently communicating with Jakarr.
He doesn't tweet much so hard to say but I have heard that he is very close to the program.
Thanks. The thought of Jakarr playing with this group next year makes me as excited as a kid on the night before Christmas.
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Jakarr is a ton like UK's Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in his game. Jakarr taller though and better in the open court. Really crossing my fingers we can add him.
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Jakarr is a ton like UK's Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in his game. Jakarr taller though and better in the open court. Really crossing my fingers we can add him.
Gilchrist great in open court and has already proven he can do it at highest level of college ball. That said love Jakarr's game and open court ability and would welcome him back into the St J's family with open arms.
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Gilchrist was the #3 recruit in the country last year, #1WF. Sampson was only #40 and #10. ; )
Sampson would be a great get as would any of the bigs we're discussing.
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Gilchrist was the #3 recruit in the country last year, #1WF. Sampson was only #40 and #10. ; )
Sampson would be a great get as would any of the bigs we're discussing.
MCNPA can make anything sound good ;)
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I said in style of play. Not comparing rankings.
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I said in style of play. Not comparing rankings.
Doesn't Jakarr have a little more inside game as well? From the highlights I've seen that's how I remember it.
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I said in style of play. Not comparing rankings.
Doesn't Jakarr have a little more inside game as well? From the highlights I've seen that's how I remember it.
I consider Kidd-Gilchrist to be an inside/outside guy but much more oriented to play around the basket. Both guys are athletic, hit the glass hard, but can still make occasional outside shots. Both hybrid forward types.
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Evan Daniels said it is doubtful that he would return to play for the Red Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/sports/ncaabasketball/at-st-johns-a-course-in-improvisation.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/sports/ncaabasketball/at-st-johns-a-course-in-improvisation.html?_r=1)
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Evan Daniels said it is doubtful that he would return to play for the Red Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/sports/ncaabasketball/at-st-johns-a-course-in-improvisation.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/sports/ncaabasketball/at-st-johns-a-course-in-improvisation.html?_r=1)
I've said this a few times, but still suspect J. Smith will recommend Kansas and push JaKarr there. They need a PF too.
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I think he meant Pelle
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From Lenn Robbins Twitter...Certainly nothing official but good to hear.
LennRobbins Lenn Robbins
Coach Lav in Massachusetts looking to close on JaKarr Sampson sources tell the Post...JaKarr leaning heavily to stj over Baylor #stjbb
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We're getting all 3, Sampson,gathers and op
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Marco: What happenerd to you? You have gone from one of our most neg posters to one of our more positive ones. A week ago you said we would be lucky to get 2 of the recruits we were going after, now you think were going to get all 3 bigs.
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Sampson's team (Brewster Academy) plays on ESPN today at 4pm.
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We're getting all 3, Sampson,gathers and op
What makes you say that?
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Coach Lav in Massachusetts looking to close on JaKarr Sampson sources tell the Post...JaKarr leaning heavily to stj over Baylor #stjbb
per len robbins
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I hope Lavin closes on him. Jakarr is part of this sju family already. No brainer. We need him in the arsenal for next year.
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Coach Lav in Massachusetts looking to close on JaKarr Sampson sources tell the Post...JaKarr leaning heavily to stj over Baylor #stjbb
per len robbins
Wohooo! In coach Lav we trust. A front line of Moe Jakaar and GG/Obekpa for stretches would have been great against Gtown today.
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Coach Lav in Massachusetts looking to close on JaKarr Sampson sources tell the Post...JaKarr leaning heavily to stj over Baylor #stjbb
per len robbins
A front line of Moe Jakaar and GG/Obekpa for stretches would have been great against Gtown today.
For several other games, as well.
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JKS on ESPN now.
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coach chiles and lavin spotted behind basket. ;-)
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lenn robbins is usually wrong. i hope he is right this time.
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Hope Robbins is right too. He forecasted GG's signing. Broke the news on Branch too I think.
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hopefully Jakarr can qualify
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lenn robbins is usually wrong. i hope he is right this time.
When was he last wrong on a recruit?
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lenn robbins is usually wrong. i hope he is right this time.
When was he last wrong on a recruit?
Agree... Lenn doesn't usually get these wrong. He usually reports when he has good info. He might have been wrong at one point in time about Kyle Anderson, but truths be told, nobody knew exactly what Kyle would do. Let's hope that is the case here. Adding Jakarr would be huge for us.
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Lenn has been pretty much spot on since the Lavin era began, it must be close if he wrote it
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Wasnt Lenny the one who said we were getting LOI's from Norvel and Darrick wood right before the fall signing period?
BTW I really hope we get jakarr. Kid plays with agression.
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Wasnt Lenny the one who said we were getting LOI's from Norvel and Darrick wood right before the fall signing period?
BTW I really hope we get jakarr. Kid plays with agression.
I know where he got that info from and I would have reported it too. Wasn't Lenn's fault. Just a bad tip.
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Wasnt Lenny the one who said we were getting LOI's from Norvel and Darrick wood right before the fall signing period?
BTW I really hope we get jakarr. Kid plays with agression.
I know where he got that info from and I would have reported it too. Wasn't Lenn's fault. Just a bad tip.
Fair enough Dave. Do you know where he got the jakarr info from?
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Wasnt Lenny the one who said we were getting LOI's from Norvel and Darrick wood right before the fall signing period?
BTW I really hope we get jakarr. Kid plays with agression.
I know where he got that info from and I would have reported it too. Wasn't Lenn's fault. Just a bad tip.
Dean wormer?
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http://video-embed.masslive.com/services/player/bcpid650412348001?bctid=1393347346001 (http://video-embed.masslive.com/services/player/bcpid650412348001?bctid=1393347346001)
latest video of JS interview following yesterday's game.
he forgets to mention us after initially being asked who's recruiting him
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Wasnt Lenny the one who said we were getting LOI's from Norvel and Darrick wood right before the fall signing period?
BTW I really hope we get jakarr. Kid plays with agression.
I know where he got that info from and I would have reported it too. Wasn't Lenn's fault. Just a bad tip.
Fair enough Dave. Do you know where he got the jakarr info from?
It's no secret. I've mentioned it a few times prior that Jakarr wants back in.
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How are Sampson's grades?
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How are Sampson's grades?
I have been told theat they weren't far off last year, after a 5th year he should be fine.
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How are Sampson's grades?
I have been told theat they weren't far off last year, after a 5th year he should be fine.
One would hope
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Only saw a little of second half of JS game against Nerlins Noels team and saw JS with 2 put back dunks while Noel was on bench with foul trouble. Announcer said that doesn't happen with Noel in the game. Could not help with being stuck by how thin JS still is even thou I had seen video on him before. An extra year of development for JS may have been the best thing for him before hopefully coming to St. J's.
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Only saw a little of second half of JS game against Nerlins Noels team and saw JS with 2 put back dunks while Noel was on bench with foul trouble. Announcer said that doesn't happen with Noel in the game. Could not help with being stuck by how thin JS still is even thou I had seen video on him before. An extra year of development for JS may have been the best thing for him before hopefully coming to St. J's.
Noel is an amazing shotblocker. Ill tell you though, Obekpa is only second or third in line after Noel. Obekpa is that good. Noel has some offense too though. Jakarr is an excellent finisher and in lastnyear's game vs tilton, Noel swatted Sampson at least 4 times, even on dunks. Noel certainly awesome. Jakarr is a player that I really want here. He can really drive to the hoop and rebound. Quick off the bounce. Best days are ahead.
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From what I ve read Sampson is a Mo Harkless level talent. Would love to see them play together as originally intended.
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Per NBE Basketball....
Jakarr Sampson (Brewster Academy 2012) – Sampson was one of the only players for Brewster able to have success in the paint against the imposing presence of Nerlens Noel. He is a superb 6’8” athlete who likes to catch from the mid post and use 1 dribble to the rim. Sampson also uses his athleticism to crash the offensive glass grabbing 5 rebounds on that end and finishing 2 of them off with spectacular tip dunks. His perimeter shot and ability to use more than a couple dribbles need more work but Sampson can impact the highest levels of college basketball already with his above the rim athleticism.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0116/hoophall-classic-2012-sunday-recap/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0116/hoophall-classic-2012-sunday-recap/)
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From what I ve read Sampson is a Mo Harkless level talent. Would love to see them play together as originally intended.
The plan was to have those two 6'8 forwards dominate next to each other. Like I've said before, Sampson was probably the most important recruit to Lavin's blue print IMO. It's almost like getting the volleyball team you want, but one of two finishers not being eligible.
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I know what the scouting reports say, but for those of you who have seen him play a lot, can Jakarr shoot? Seems easy to lump him in with Moe, but I get the impression that's not a completely accurate assessment.
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I know what the scouting reports say, but for those of you who have seen him play a lot, can Jakarr shoot? Seems easy to lump him in with Moe, but I get the impression that's not a completely accurate assessment.
Moe is a better shooter. But Jakarr knows his range. Ideally you'd love to stick Jakarr at the FT line where he can either shoot the J, drive or pass.
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Jakarr's jumper looks improved since last year. Still not all that good but improved. He has the ability to hit some jumpers from the elbow
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I know what the scouting reports say, but for those of you who have seen him play a lot, can Jakarr shoot? Seems easy to lump him in with Moe, but I get the impression that's not a completely accurate assessment.
Sampson has better form than Mo, but Mo has such an effortless release. There is a video on youtube of Mo working with Jevon Thomas and just draining effortless three after effortless three. I'm really shocked at his 24.5% shooting %.
Mo has a tighter handle and better skills overall, but Sampson is clearly the better athlete. These two were meant to play side-by-side.
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What are his strengths?
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I know what the scouting reports say, but for those of you who have seen him play a lot, can Jakarr shoot? Seems easy to lump him in with Moe, but I get the impression that's not a completely accurate assessment.
Sampson has better form than Mo, but Mo has such an effortless release. There is a video on youtube of Mo working with Jevon Thomas and just draining effortless three after effortless three. I'm really shocked at his 24.5% shooting %.
Mo has a tighter handle and better skills overall, but Sampson is clearly the better athlete. These two were meant to play side-by-side.
Dont agree that sampson has better form.
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Jakarr's jumper looks improved since last year. Still not all that good but improved. He has the ability to hit some jumpers from the elbow
Another bricklayer?
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What are his strengths?
His ability to hit the glass, and run the floor. Pretty good shot blocker and defender
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What are his strengths?
His ability to hit the glass, and run the floor. Pretty good shot blocker and defender
I thought Samspon had a decent jumpshot within 10-12 feet, which should be all he needs given his prospective role on the team, right?
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What are his strengths?
His ability to hit the glass, and run the floor. Pretty good shot blocker and defender
I thought Samspon had a decent jumpshot within 10-12 feet, which should be all he needs given his prospective role on the team, right?
Yes, he does seem to be able to hit the short jumper. He's also a decent ballhandler.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
Did he get ranked that high by accident? He obviously has a skill of getting the ball in the basket. Whether its shooting, driving, dunking on and over people.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
Did he get ranked that high by accident? He obviously has a skill of getting the ball in the basket. Whether its shooting, driving, dunking on and over people.
I'm not trying to make a slight against Jakarr or anyone else that we're recruiting or on the team currently. They are all talented in their own right but it'd be nice to have another shooter besides Harrison to go along with all the slashers that we have.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
Did he get ranked that high by accident? He obviously has a skill of getting the ball in the basket. Whether its shooting, driving, dunking on and over people.
I'm not trying to make a slight against Jakarr or anyone else that we're recruiting or on the team currently. They are all talented in their own right but it'd be nice to have another shooter besides Harrison to go along with all the slashers that we have.
IMO, that's a fair point. A sharpshooting SG coming out of high school doesn't need to physically mature as much to be effective as, let's say, a slashing, 6'6 SF/G freshman who needs to add 20 lbs of muscle to be effective in a physical CBB conference such as the BE.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
Did he get ranked that high by accident? He obviously has a skill of getting the ball in the basket. Whether its shooting, driving, dunking on and over people.
I'm not trying to make a slight against Jakarr or anyone else that we're recruiting or on the team currently. They are all talented in their own right but it'd be nice to have another shooter besides Harrison to go along with all the slashers that we have.
IMO, that's a fair point. A sharpshooting SG coming out of high school doesn't need to physically mature as much to be effective as, let's say, a slashing, 6'6 SF/G freshman who needs to add 20 lbs of muscle to be effective in a physical CBB conference such as the BE.
And as I mentioned before in another thread. It doesn't seem like for whatever reason, Lavin is going after 'shooters'
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I completely agree about us needing more shooters. I don't know about you, but I am never confident that the ball will go in the net when our guys take jump shots. That needs to change.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
Did he get ranked that high by accident? He obviously has a skill of getting the ball in the basket. Whether its shooting, driving, dunking on and over people.
I'm not trying to make a slight against Jakarr or anyone else that we're recruiting or on the team currently. They are all talented in their own right but it'd be nice to have another shooter besides Harrison to go along with all the slashers that we have.
IMO, that's a fair point. A sharpshooting SG coming out of high school doesn't need to physically mature as much to be effective as, let's say, a slashing, 6'6 SF/G freshman who needs to add 20 lbs of muscle to be effective in a physical CBB conference such as the BE.
And as I mentioned before in another thread. It doesn't seem like for whatever reason, Lavin is going after 'shooters'
As much as I dislike Cal, I think Lav's recruiting strategy is pretty similar to Kentucky's in recent years. If you look at Wall, Gilchrist, Knight, Terrence Jones, Teague etc they're all phenomenal athletes, but were considered inconsistent shooters from deep. Especially coming out of high school.
A good shooting team can go cold, or can be rattled when playing on the road. But if you're faster, quicker, and can out jump the other team.. loss balls, fast breaks, rebounds, blocks, steals etc.. make the game much easier. It frustrates me when we're throwing up bricks, but I can't deny coach's plan has it's merits.
The big difference obviously is Lavin was starting over from scratch basically, and there's only so many John Walls and Anthony Davises out there. But in the future I really would expect us to look a lot like some of these Kentucky teams.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
Did he get ranked that high by accident? He obviously has a skill of getting the ball in the basket. Whether its shooting, driving, dunking on and over people.
I'm not trying to make a slight against Jakarr or anyone else that we're recruiting or on the team currently. They are all talented in their own right but it'd be nice to have another shooter besides Harrison to go along with all the slashers that we have.
IMO, that's a fair point. A sharpshooting SG coming out of high school doesn't need to physically mature as much to be effective as, let's say, a slashing, 6'6 SF/G freshman who needs to add 20 lbs of muscle to be effective in a physical CBB conference such as the BE.
And as I mentioned before in another thread. It doesn't seem like for whatever reason, Lavin is going after 'shooters'
As much as I dislike Cal, I think Lav's recruiting strategy is pretty similar to Kentucky's in recent years. If you look at Wall, Gilchrist, Knight, Terrence Jones, Teague etc they're all phenomenal athletes, but were considered inconsistent shooters from deep. Especially coming out of high school.
A good shooting team can go cold, or can be rattled when playing on the road. But if you're faster, quicker, and can out jump the other team.. loss balls, fast breaks, rebounds, blocks, steals etc.. make the game much easier. It frustrates me when we're throwing up bricks, but I can't deny coach's plan has it's merits.
The big difference obviously is Lavin was starting over from scratch basically, and there's only so many John Walls and Anthony Davises out there. But in the future I really would expect us to look a lot like some of these Kentucky teams.
Cal has a gunner in Doron Lamb though. Ironically someone Lav tried to get.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
He is a power forward, not a shooting guard. I want him dunking, not shooting.
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When are we gonna start recruiting kids that can knock down some jump shots?
Did he get ranked that high by accident? He obviously has a skill of getting the ball in the basket. Whether its shooting, driving, dunking on and over people.
I'm not trying to make a slight against Jakarr or anyone else that we're recruiting or on the team currently. They are all talented in their own right but it'd be nice to have another shooter besides Harrison to go along with all the slashers that we have.
IMO, that's a fair point. A sharpshooting SG coming out of high school doesn't need to physically mature as much to be effective as, let's say, a slashing, 6'6 SF/G freshman who needs to add 20 lbs of muscle to be effective in a physical CBB conference such as the BE.
And as I mentioned before in another thread. It doesn't seem like for whatever reason, Lavin is going after 'shooters'
Thompson was famous for recruiting athletes rather than shooters. And big effective post players.
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Shooters are always on the board late, big time athletes are not.
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link to watch their game going on now http://sks-amg.org/?p=34 (http://sks-amg.org/?p=34)
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#33 for SKS looked amazing for the 2 minutes I saw him. Scored like 8 straight for them over McGarry.
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#33 for SKS looked amazing for the 2 minutes I saw him. Scored like 8 straight for them over McGarry.
Looks alot like Moose's boy from last year who's now at Georgia
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#33 for SKS looked amazing for the 2 minutes I saw him. Scored like 8 straight for them over McGarry.
Looks alot like Moose's boy from last year who's now at Georgia
He had moments of good and moments of bad. Much bigger than Djurisic from last year. I was at the game. Report coming soon.
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Drove up to South Kent last night to see Brewster. Wow South Kent is in the middle of nowhere ;D
Saw Lav and Chiles and sat behind them, talked to them after and Lav is in great spirits. Providence was also there. Place was packed to the gills with fans.
Brewster had 1 pt lead at half but blew it open and won by 24. Brewster is absolutely loaded. I mean Jakarr played fine. On that team everyone seems to have 'their day' where they explode and become the teams leading scorer. Otherwise everyone falls into their roles. Jakarr had 10-12 pts I think, 7-8 boards, 3-4 blocks but what most impressed me was how often he was used as their inbounds passer and how he was the top of their press and did a great job helping break the press against them. Jakarr is perfect at FT line just like Moe where he can shoot the little J, pass or use his speed to blow by defenders. In other Brewster news- TJ Warren (NC STATE) is unreal. Phenomenal player. He's not in phenomenal shape but man he can do everything and last night he was on fire from everywhere. Aaron Thomas (FSU) had a pretty quiet night but showed some tremendous hops. Along with the Xavier duo of Semaj Christon and Jalen Reynolds. Semaj is still learning to play PG and being taller means he has to be more careful. Reynolds showed some nice post moves but also some bonehead plays where he was trying too hard. Joe Bramanti (Undecided) was in Ricardo Ledo's face all game getting in his head at times. Kid is a bulldog. If I was running a MAAC school I'd be all over him.
Ricardo Ledo took 87 shots I think. I've seen him a number of times and the kid has THE worst demeanor I've ever seen on the court. Even in the 1st half when SK was playing well he was bitching and moaning whenever he wasn't passed the ball even if the team scored. No question kid is a player. He can score all over. He's no taller than 6'4 though to me. But someone is gonna get in his head in college many a night and throw him off. The big man Laimonas Chatkevicius started and is definitely more than servicable. He was winded a lot but had a nifty game down low. He will do well with Frank Martin at KState. Chris Ortiz and Tre Oliver also did some good things. Ortiz needs to learn to stop shooting from outside and do his work down low. Oliver has some pretty athletic upside and hes a real emotional player ala D-Lo.
Jakarr was making eye contact with Lavin and Tony all game as they sat front row center court. One other note about Brewster was Mitch McGary and head coach Jason Smith. No question Jakarr and McGary are seriously best buds. McGary's family was there and Jakarr came and hugged them all. They also have great chemistry on the court together. McGary had moments. The more I see him play the more I realize Duke would have been the perfect fit for his playing style. The SK students were riding McGary all game. And Mitch was jawing back at them. When he missed a shot or something they were chanting Michigan JV or something. In one of the most bizarre moments I've ever seen in my life at the end of the game McGary flushed one home with the game no longer in doubt and SK called timeout. Jason Smith then stormed from bench halfway across court to student section and starting yelling MICHIGAN THAT, MICHIGAN THAT at them. (This was after he was already t'ed up earlier in the game). He is one of the most obnoxious coaches on the sidelines I've ever seen in my life.
Hope Lav locks up Jakarr because he would be a great addition to what we are trying to do.
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Nice job Moose. do you see JS as a power forward or a three?
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Thanks for the update, I've seen Brewster this year and agree with pretty much all you said. I thought there was no way they would be as good as they were last year but imo they are better. Funny that you mentioned that Jakarr kept making eye contact with the coaches because I noticed the same exact thing when I saw them a few months ago. Hopefully he wasn't making eye contact with Providence though, they have been following him to every game and may be a legit threat to us. Hopefully he jumps back on board. I'll be at a tournament at the end of the week & Brewster will be there but not sure if I can make it to their game.
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Nice job Moose. do you see JS as a power forward or a three?
He is a 3/4. I always said last year he would play 4 and Moe 3 because of their strengths. Brewster plays a lot of big guys so he rotates between 3 and 4. He's legit 6'8 and LONG.
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Can he rebound?
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Can he rebound?
Very well.
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Thanks for the recap Moose. Adding Jakarr would IMO make us a lot bigger than what some might believe. It allows us to move Moe to the 3 and when Moe Harkless is your 3 man, you will have a pretty big front line. Jakarr also seems to have a mean streak. We could use someone that is a little nasty in the paint.
Any thing you can share from your conversation you had with Coach?
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Thanks for the recap Moose. Adding Jakarr would IMO make us a lot bigger than what some might believe. It allows us to move Moe to the 3 and when Moe Harkless is your 3 man, you will have a pretty big front line. Jakarr also seems to have a mean streak. We could use someone that is a little nasty in the paint.
Any thing you can share from your conversation you had with Coach?
Nothing ground breaking. I asked how he was feeling. Said we played good yesterday and next year we beat that team in the Garden. He said we just need to add a big man or two and we would be golden.
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Nice, thorough write-up, Moose. Let's hope Sampson decides to jump on board. He'll compliment Moe very well.
By the way, I was kinda lukewarm on Ledo when I saw him at the Peach Jam. I think I said as much, when I saw him last summer. Yes, he can shoot it, but he's a big-time volume shooter and chucker that kinda mopes like you've stated.
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Awesome write up Moose....thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for the break down Moose. Great read!
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Thanks for the informative & thorough write-up Moose.
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Jason Smith then stormed from bench halfway across court to student section and starting yelling MICHIGAN THAT, MICHIGAN THAT at them.
Tiny Jr.
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This cat makes Tiny look like Coach Wooden. Its shocking to me they allow this guy to coach young man...hes a nice person.
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I have never seen a coach on Twitter suck up to college programs like Smith does.
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Does he have any say into where his players go to school?
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I actually agree with Poison on this one.
Either pick St. John's or cross them off the list. You already committed once. Everyone , with the exception of Pelle, is here. Team shows promise, desperately need a power forward, and Lavin has come out and said he's back. Throw in the the fact that Lavin is still seeing this kid at every possible chance.
I know its a big decision and all that, but he already made his decision last year. Don't play us Jakarr!
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Tiny Jr.
Choz, see we don't always disagree.
Tiny is THE worst I have ever seen. He is not only a bad coach and teacher of the game, he is THE most selfish coach I have ever come across.
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I actually agree with Poison on this one.
Either pick St. John's or cross them off the list. You already committed once. Everyone , with the exception of Pelle, is here. Team shows promise, desperately need a power forward, and Lavin has come out and said he's back. Throw in the the fact that Lavin is still seeing this kid at every possible chance.
I know its a big decision and all that, but he already made his decision last year. Don't play us Jakarr!
I feel the same way. Compounding matters, if after all of the chasing and love that Lavin & co. have thrown at Jakarr post de-committing, Jakarr spurns us (again), and chooses another school, it makes our recruiting efforts look pretty weak.
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I actually agree with Poison on this one.
Either pick St. John's or cross them off the list. You already committed once. Everyone , with the exception of Pelle, is here. Team shows promise, desperately need a power forward, and Lavin has come out and said he's back. Throw in the the fact that Lavin is still seeing this kid at every possible chance.
I know its a big decision and all that, but he already made his decision last year. Don't play us Jakarr!
While I'm confident Coach will be back, I can't fault a kid who is not convinced, and feels that the coach is the major reason for his selection. And just like for Coach having one shot to come back before he loses credilbility, the kid who already decommitted does not want to have to decommit a second time.
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Thanks for sharing Moose. Hope we can nab Jakar..
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Going to visit Kansas soon for the Missouri game. Says SJU, Kansas, Providence, Baylor and Florida are the main one's recruiting him. Per scout.com:
“Coach (Bill) Self from Kansas, Coach (Steve) Lavin from St. John’s, Coach (Scott) Drew from Baylor, Coach (Ed) Cooley from Providence, and Coach (Billy) Donovan from Florida have been the main ones,” said Sampson of who is recruiting him the hardest.
To date his only trip has been to Baylor, but the Bears Big XII rival Kansas is now set to get a trip from Sampson.
“I have a visit set up with Kansas for an official visit for when they play Missouri,” said Sampson. “That should be a good game and a good atmosphere.”
Likewise the school he originally signed with, St. John’s, remains firmly in the picture.
“It has been hard to watch them, but I am proud of those guys,” said Sampson of the Red Storm. “All of those guys are playing well together and they are growing as players. I just have a great relationship with Coach Lavin. We talk probably twice a week and it is always good.”
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1155038.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1155038.html)
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Going to visit Kansas soon for the Missouri game. Says SJU, Kansas, Providence, Baylor and Florida are the main one's recruiting him. Per scout.com:
“Coach (Bill) Self from Kansas, Coach (Steve) Lavin from St. John’s, Coach (Scott) Drew from Baylor, Coach (Ed) Cooley from Providence, and Coach (Billy) Donovan from Florida have been the main ones,” said Sampson of who is recruiting him the hardest.
To date his only trip has been to Baylor, but the Bears Big XII rival Kansas is now set to get a trip from Sampson.
“I have a visit set up with Kansas for an official visit for when they play Missouri,” said Sampson. “That should be a good game and a good atmosphere.”
Likewise the school he originally signed with, St. John’s, remains firmly in the picture.
“It has been hard to watch them, but I am proud of those guys,” said Sampson of the Red Storm. “All of those guys are playing well together and they are growing as players. I just have a great relationship with Coach Lavin. We talk probably twice a week and it is always good.”
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1155038.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1155038.html)
Hope seeing a game at Fog Allen doesnt have too much of an effect on him.
In the end I think lavs relationship with him will win out
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Does he have any say into where his players go to school?
This clown has been my concern all along. I just think Smith is trying to get himself in good with Self. I still have no support for that speculation of mine.
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"It has been hard to watch them, but I am proud of those guys,” said Sampson of the Red Storm. “All of those guys are playing well together and they are growing as players. I just have a great relationship with Coach Lavin. We talk probably twice a week and it is always good.”
Whats the wait then? You were signed on & ready last year, jump back on now
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Does he have any say into where his players go to school?
This clown has been my concern all along. I just think Smith is trying to get himself in good with Self. I still have no support for that speculation of mine.
Smith doesn't push anyone to Kansas. That is straight from posters on this site.
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"It has been hard to watch them, but I am proud of those guys,” said Sampson of the Red Storm. “All of those guys are playing well together and they are growing as players. I just have a great relationship with Coach Lavin. We talk probably twice a week and it is always good.”
Whats the wait then? You were signed on & ready last year, jump back on now
He can make it easier to watch when he is going coast to coast and slashing down the middle for us,
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Does he have any say into where his players go to school?
This clown has been my concern all along. I just think Smith is trying to get himself in good with Self. I still have no support for that speculation of mine.
Smith doesn't push anyone to Kansas. That is straight from posters on this site.
I totally disagree, Brewster coach has an agenda......FOR HIMSELF
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Does he have any say into where his players go to school?
This clown has been my concern all along. I just think Smith is trying to get himself in good with Self. I still have no support for that speculation of mine.
Smith doesn't push anyone to Kansas. That is straight from posters on this site.
I totally disagree, Brewster coach has an agenda......FOR HIMSELF
Ya, Im sure he took note reading this thread
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I was just thinking. It would be hilarious if Lavin bought a ticket to go see the Kansas/Missouri game.
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I was just thinking. It would be hilarious if Lavin bought a ticket to go see the Kansas/Missouri game.
Violation, though right?
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http://coxsportsonline.com/archives/2898 (http://coxsportsonline.com/archives/2898)
Interview talking about his game today with some game clips along with a recruiting update
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Would have been nice if he had mentioned SJU first among his list of suitors. Looks like Providence is going after him hard. I wonder if he knows that we love him more?!
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Would have been nice if he had mentioned SJU first among his list of suitors. Looks like Providence is going after him hard. I wonder if he knows that we love him more?!
Gee, there are nearly 600 posts on this JS forum. I would say JS knows we care big time. We even cared when he decommitted.
We have something no other school, including PC has, his potential team mates at St. John's care big time about him.
I do not see JS going to Providence. Another big time program, possibly.
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Would have been nice if he had mentioned SJU first among his list of suitors. Looks like Providence is going after him hard. I wonder if he knows that we love him more?!
Gee, there are nearly 600 posts on this JS forum. I would say JS knows we care big time. We even cared when he decommitted.
We have something no other school, including PC has, his potential team mates at St. John's care big time about him.
I do not see JS going to Providence. Another big time program, possibly.
The length of the thread did wonders for Kyle eh?
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Would have been nice if he had mentioned SJU first among his list of suitors. Looks like Providence is going after him hard. I wonder if he knows that we love him more?!
Gee, there are nearly 600 posts on this JS forum. I would say JS knows we care big time. We even cared when he decommitted.
We have something no other school, including PC has, his potential team mates at St. John's care big time about him.
I do not see JS going to Providence. Another big time program, possibly.
The length of the thread did wonders for Kyle eh?
I never said JS was definitely coming here, rather the posters on JJ and others care for him. He will end up wherever he wants to. Coach's health, to me, seems a big issue, but hey, you never know with recruits now days. Regarding KA, I thought his "Vince Chase" necklace was a telling indicator of where he was going to end up. We need to know what type of necklace JS is wearing.
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Would have been nice if he had mentioned SJU first among his list of suitors. Looks like Providence is going after him hard. I wonder if he knows that we love him more?!
Gee, there are nearly 600 posts on this JS forum. I would say JS knows we care big time. We even cared when he decommitted.
We have something no other school, including PC has, his potential team mates at St. John's care big time about him.
I do not see JS going to Providence. Another big time program, possibly.
The length of the thread did wonders for Kyle eh?
I never said JS was definitely coming here, rather the posters on JJ and others care for him. He will end up wherever he wants to. Coach's health, to me, seems a big issue, but hey, you never know with recruits now days. Regarding KA, I thought his "Vince Chase" necklace was a telling indicator of where he was going to end up. We need to know what type of necklace JS is wearing.
But you still had your Kyle commitment party even with his Vinny Chase moniker. :)
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Jakarr Sampson (Brewster Academy 2012) – Sampson played as well as I’ve ever seen from him in Brewster’s victory this afternoon. He has always been potent using a couple dribbles to attack the rim and showcase his absurd athleticism. Today, Sampson punished defenders for playing off him by consistently knocking down mid range jumpers from 12-18 feet. When that shot is falling he becomes basically unguardable because combined with his driving ability leaves defenders to pick their poison. On top of all his impressive offense, Sampson was the catalyst for Brewster defensively playing the top of their full court press. His length and quickness caused turnover after turnover often leading to rim shaking dunks. Undefeated Brewster was frankly in a bit of trouble before going to the press and letting Sampson wreck havoc. He made it obvious why he is one of the most sought after uncommitted players remaining in the 2012 class.
Jakarr Sampson (Brewster Academy 2012) – After not qualifying at St. John’s this season Sampson is taking his time with his decision the 2nd time around. The Johnnies are still involved along with Providence, Kansas, Louisville, Baylor and Pittsburgh. Sampson has a visit to Kansas set on February 25th for their game with Missouri. No other visits are planned as of now but he hopes to visit Providence, Louisville and Baylor. He’s looking for an up-tempo, pressure style as well as somewhere where he’ll be able to play right away.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0203/2012-national-prep-school-invitational-day-one/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0203/2012-national-prep-school-invitational-day-one/)
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He’s looking for an up-tempo, pressure style as well as somewhere where he’ll be able to play right away.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0203/2012-national-prep-school-invitational-day-one/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0203/2012-national-prep-school-invitational-day-one/)
Hmmmm. Where in the world will Jakarr find that situation??? ::)
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http://coxsportsonline.com/archives/2898 (http://coxsportsonline.com/archives/2898)
Heres a video with some clips from his last game. Interview with Finklestein is more of the same.
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Would have been nice if he had mentioned SJU first among his list of suitors. Looks like Providence is going after him hard. I wonder if he knows that we love him more?!
Gee, there are nearly 600 posts on this JS forum. I would say JS knows we care big time. We even cared when he decommitted.
We have something no other school, including PC has, his potential team mates at St. John's care big time about him.
I do not see JS going to Providence. Another big time program, possibly.
The length of the thread did wonders for Kyle eh?
I never said JS was definitely coming here, rather the posters on JJ and others care for him. He will end up wherever he wants to. Coach's health, to me, seems a big issue, but hey, you never know with recruits now days. Regarding KA, I thought his "Vince Chase" necklace was a telling indicator of where he was going to end up. We need to know what type of necklace JS is wearing.
But you still had your Kyle commitment party even with his Vinny Chase moniker. :)
That was a good party, as we had 26 Alumni and family. As you probably guessed by now, it was one of our regular Alumni events. However, only two of us knew who KA was. Most of the Alumni only wanted to know if were going to have a good team this year. Our next Alumni party is 2/18 as we watch the UCLA game from a local watering hole. Would it be a NCAA violation if we send JS a necklace saying, "Lavin's Lads"?
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FWIW this is from a Providence broadcaster but.....
It’s down to the Friars, and Kansas Jayhawks, for 6-8 forward Jakarr Sampson. Think about that for a second…Alumni Hall/the Dunk vs. Phog Allen Fieldhouse…whoa…
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FWIW this is from a Providence broadcaster but.....
It’s down to the Friars, and Kansas Jayhawks, for 6-8 forward Jakarr Sampson. Think about that for a second…Alumni Hall/the Dunk vs. Phog Allen Fieldhouse…whoa…
Who's reporting this?
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http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/ (http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/)
Website says they lead for Nerlens Noel too
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http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/ (http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/)
Website says they lead for Nerlens Noel too
Lol...
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Don't forget Obekpa
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http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/ (http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/)
Website says they lead for Nerlens Noel too
Lol...
I am not sure what John Rooke (the writer) is smoking. He edited out the part that said Providence leads for Shabbaz too lol
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Yeah, and Seton Hall reportedly was in the lead for Kyle Anderson according to various Seton Hall news sources.
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http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/ (http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud11/)
Website says they lead for Nerlens Noel too
He's gonna lose all credibility amongst Friar fans, if those things doesn't come to fruition. Those fans really haven't had much to cheer about and will be up in arms, if they lose out on those recruits.
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Noel is going to Kentucky
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I removed some posts in this thread. Although not malicious intent the information could potentially be harmful. If you didn't see it, don't worry you didn't miss anything important.
Sampson is priority #1
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I removed some posts in this thread. Although not malicious intent the information could potentially be harmful. If you didn't see it, don't worry you didn't miss anything important.
Sampson is priority #1
Not sure which posts but sometimes people have to be protected from their own stupidity. Good job Dave.
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I removed some posts in this thread. Although not malicious intent the information could potentially be harmful. If you didn't see it, don't worry you didn't miss anything important.
Sampson is priority #1
I had a feeling he was priority #1. Want this kid, badly.
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He would make our press elite.
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remember this picture? knowing what we now know of Harrison, this group right here is nasty.
(http://johnnyjungle.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/allamericantogether41.jpg)
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Funny, Jakarr seemed to be the most vocal about his love for STJ last year. Lets hope that love comes back
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Jakarr, put your SJU hat back on and join your buddies, you wont regret it. Nice picture.
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Jakarr, put your SJU hat back on and join your buddies, you wont regret it. Nice picture.
I think it becomes more obvious he's holding out for coaches return
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Yeah, and Seton Hall reportedly was in the lead for Kyle Anderson according to various Seton Hall news sources.
FYI, per Kyle in a UCLA interview, that report was correct. It was Seton Hall, till he changed his mind during that last weekend family discussion before the announcement. SJU was #3, but all but SH and UCLA had been eliminated heading into the final 3 days.
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Yeah, and Seton Hall reportedly was in the lead for Kyle Anderson according to various Seton Hall news sources.
FYI, per Kyle in a UCLA interview, that report was correct. It was Seton Hall, till he changed his mind during that last weekend family discussion before the announcement. SJU was #3, but all but SH and UCLA had been eliminated heading into the final 3 days.
He would have went to Seton Hall if not for UCLA. St. John's was in the drivers seat early.
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Yeah, and Seton Hall reportedly was in the lead for Kyle Anderson according to various Seton Hall news sources.
FYI, per Kyle in a UCLA interview, that report was correct. It was Seton Hall, till he changed his mind during that last weekend family discussion before the announcement. SJU was #3, but all but SH and UCLA had been eliminated heading into the final 3 days.
He would have went to Seton Hall if not for UCLA. St. John's was in the drivers seat early.
Understood, but notwithstanding Kyle clearing the record after the fact re: Seton Hall, he still picked UCLA, hence making the Seton Hall sources reporting on the matter as valuable as that infamous Chicago Daily Tribune headine declaring that "Dewey defeats Truman".
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Jakarr, put your SJU hat back on and join your buddies, you wont regret it. Nice picture.
I think it becomes more obvious he's holding out for coaches return
I REALLY thought that's what Gathers was waiting on too, though. Gathers even said at one point he had second thoughts because of coach's health. Could have been BS, but I thought Rico was definitely coming back once coach showed him he would still be around for years to come.
Hope Jakarr isn't waiting for a Kansas offer. They have so many forwards, that would be such a perplexing decision.
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JaKarr is a very important recruit now.
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JaKarr is a very important recruit now.
Nah! LOL
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JaKarr is a very important recruit now.
Kinda scary, .... and nobody seems very confident about him going to StJ.
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Jakarr, put your SJU hat back on and join your buddies, you wont regret it. Nice picture.
I think it becomes more obvious he's holding out for coaches return
I REALLY thought that's what Gathers was waiting on too, though. Gathers even said at one point he had second thoughts because of coach's health. Could have been BS, but I thought Rico was definitely coming back once coach showed him he would still be around for years to come.
Hope Jakarr isn't waiting for a Kansas offer. They have so many forwards, that would be such a perplexing decision.
With Gathers off the board I think it only makes our program that more attractive to Jakarr. Plenty of minutes, Big East Conference, NYC, MSG, Great Staff.....all hinges on Lavin's health status though. I think Lavin comes back for the Big East Tourney.
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JaKarr is a very important recruit now.
Kinda scary, .... and nobody seems very confident about him going to StJ.
i think someone said it before, but it seems like Jackarr's future is out of his control. similar to Gathers, i think JS wants to come, but other forces are going to guide him elsewhere. Hope i'm wrong.
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I've always been of the mindset that Lavin should take his time and come back when he's ready, but if we lose out on Jakarr too, I think he needs to get on the sidelines ASAP.
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I've always been of the mindset that Lavin should take his time and come back when he's ready, but if we lose out on Jakarr too, I think he needs to get on the sidelines ASAP.
I totally emphasize with your anxiety kingofk1ngs, but if our recruiting takes a hit this year in order for Lavin to make a full recovery from his cancer surgery, then IMHO, so be it. After all, we are fans of a CATHOLIC university's BB program. Need to put the health of our coach ahead of our desire to be super competitive on the recruiting trail. ;)
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It would be great if lav lands Sampson, however, it is not the end of the world if it doesn't happen. Everyone needs to relax.
The foundation is here. We have two players in Harkless and Harrison, a guard and forward, who will likely be pre-season 1st and second team all big east players coming into their soph years. Gift will have a full year of experience and growth under this staff. Amir and Pointer can only get better.
We obviously need a big. Lavin will get someone to fill the need whether its Sampson, Obekpa, or some other player we never heard of.
Contrary to popular belief, the world won't come to an end if Jakarr doesn't come. Personally, I don't think he will ( I know nothing, just a feeling) come. So i won't be disappointed when he declares elsewhere.
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Sampson wasn't coming here if Gathers came. Like I've said all along, Sampson is the recruit that completes Lavin's blue print. He's by far the most valuable of our targets. Mo was never supposed to be alone up font like that. Two 6'8 jumping jacks would make all the difference with Garrett and Pointer at SF. When Lavin put this class together, Sampson was the best athlete of the group. Let's get him on board for our tournament run.
As is, I think we are a tournament team, but we all know that we won't be the same team next year. Why? Steve Lavin is filling the voids for us, and there are few better. The JUCO ranks are LOADED with PF's, shooters, and scoring combo gaurds. The second leading scorer for Baylor is a first year JUCO, Pierre Jackson...who happens to be shooting 47% from three and dishing out nearly 6 assists per contest.
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Sampson wasn't coming here if Gathers came. Like I've said all along, Sampson is the recruit that completes Lavin's blue print. He's by far the most valuable of our targets. Mo was never supposed to be alone up font like that. Two 6'8 jumping jacks would make all the difference with Garrett and Pointer at SF. When Lavin put this class together, Sampson was the best athlete of the group. Let's get him on board for our tournament run.
As is, I think we are a tournament team, but we all know that we won't be the same team next year. Why? Steve Lavin is filling the voids for us, and there are few better. The JUCO ranks are LOADED with PF's, shooters, and scoring combo gaurds. The second leading scorer for Baylor is a first year JUCO, Pierre Jackson...who happens to be shooting 47% from three and dishing out nearly 6 assists per contest.
Since JucoJuction looks like barren Waco, Texas who are some good JUCO's out there?
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Sampson wasn't coming here if Gathers came. Like I've said all along, Sampson is the recruit that completes Lavin's blue print. He's by far the most valuable of our targets. Mo was never supposed to be alone up font like that. Two 6'8 jumping jacks would make all the difference with Garrett and Pointer at SF. When Lavin put this class together, Sampson was the best athlete of the group. Let's get him on board for our tournament run.
As is, I think we are a tournament team, but we all know that we won't be the same team next year. Why? Steve Lavin is filling the voids for us, and there are few better. The JUCO ranks are LOADED with PF's, shooters, and scoring combo gaurds. The second leading scorer for Baylor is a first year JUCO, Pierre Jackson...who happens to be shooting 47% from three and dishing out nearly 6 assists per contest.
Since JucoJuction looks like barren Waco, Texas who are some good JUCO's out there?
My first reply just got timed out...so here is the summary:
There are two local gunners I'd take a shot at. A 6'5 SG from Globe and my favorite is a 5'11 three-point assassin that plays with Orlando Sanchez at Monroe CC, Devon Marshall. Marshall plays a staright up two guard, but that is because Monroe has a nice little point guard--headed somehwere small like Norfolk St. I actually would have lilked him as well, he's a PURE point. Marshall has Hatten-like athleticism. When I inquired about he a few months back, he was still avaliable.
There is also a 6'10 Aussie, Chris Patton. I spoke with a local region 15 coach who saw him play when he was at College of Southern Idaho last year. He transferred to some small JUCO d-1 school I've never heard of, but is averaging 15 and 10.6. He's a stud physically and athletically. He's a rugby guy, and would be right at home throwing bows in the Big East. He's a bit raw, but we need that size.
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As is, I think we are a tournament team, but we all know that we won't be the same team next year. Why? Steve Lavin is filling the voids for us, and there are few better. The JUCO ranks are LOADED with PF's, shooters, and scoring combo gaurds. The second leading scorer for Baylor is a first year JUCO, Pierre Jackson...who happens to be shooting 47% from three and dishing out nearly 6 assists per contest.
If this team comes back totally intact they will still be the smallest team with the least depth in the conference. With the possible exodus of some of the better programs, I think we would sneak into the tourney but barely. If history has taught us anything it is more likely we will lose someone. Happens every year even / especially under Lavin. If we lose anyone from Harrison / Harkless /GG/ Branch / Greene w/o adequate reinforcement we will have the same record as this season. I do not get involved in recruiting and there is no doubting Lavin's prowess in that department under normal circumstances. However a PERFECT STORM of Lavin's absence, BE disarray, losing record, previous year's ineligibles and decommitments has made it a highly abnormal circumstance. Hopefully Lavin has a plan B or C in case he can't land all the names we keep hearing about. Even if everyone comes back team still needs a couple of serviceable bigs that will play!
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More than anything, we need interior defense. Interior offense is right behind.
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Sampson wasn't coming here if Gathers came. Like I've said all along, Sampson is the recruit that completes Lavin's blue print. He's by far the most valuable of our targets. Mo was never supposed to be alone up font like that. Two 6'8 jumping jacks would make all the difference with Garrett and Pointer at SF. When Lavin put this class together, Sampson was the best athlete of the group. Let's get him on board for our tournament run.
As is, I think we are a tournament team, but we all know that we won't be the same team next year. Why? Steve Lavin is filling the voids for us, and there are few better. The JUCO ranks are LOADED with PF's, shooters, and scoring combo gaurds. The second leading scorer for Baylor is a first year JUCO, Pierre Jackson...who happens to be shooting 47% from three and dishing out nearly 6 assists per contest.
Agree Marillac. I thing Gathers heading to Baylor can only help us with Jakarr. Jakarr is taller and more athletic than Gathers and is also an excellent rebounder. He's not nearly as strong now, but his ceiling is higher IMO. Let's just hope we land him. He really does fit our mold perfectly.
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wayyy higher. from what I've seen, Jakaar has all the tools to be a SERIOUS pro if it all works out
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:(suddenly a negative becomes a positive....lost polee+kyle+gaithers+pelle+lindsey etc this program seems to be a bigger mess then ever again...
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:(suddenly a negative becomes a positive....lost polee+kyle+gaithers+pelle+lindsey etc this program seems to be a bigger mess then ever again...
Hey genius, check back in April.
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april 2015?
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april 2015?
Will your buddy Cooley still be employed by then?
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:2funny:probably as he seems to be doing a very good job recruiting
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Im dying for an update from sju79 on jakarr. He called him coming the fist time around. Hope its the same this time!
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:2funny:probably as he seems to be doing a very good job recruiting
Even funnier.
Recruiting is only half the battle.
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:2funny:probably as he seems to be doing a very good job recruiting
Yes he is.. That assistant he has on the staff.. you know.. Coach Money seems to be the hottest asst coach in the country.
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great college and great head coach...no coach MONEY$$$$.....thank good for old school big east....compete or whither
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april 2015?
Will your buddy Cooley still be employed by then?
No. Ledo is Lenny Cooke 2.0. He will be Cooley's downfall--that and Cooley's horrible coaching.
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april 2015?
Will your buddy Cooley still be employed by then?
No. Ledo is Lenny Cooke 2.0. He will be Cooley's downfall--that and Cooley's horrible coaching.
Totally agree. Now check your PM's :)
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I love Coach Cooley as a person and coach. I'm pretty confident in his ability to recruit and assemble talent at PC which is good for the conference. Cooley also has the support of the big time alumni which is definitely vital too.
If I had a gun to my head today I'm confident JaKarr will be at St. John's next season. Things can always change but everything is lined up in STJ's favor.
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I love Coach Cooley as a person and coach. I'm pretty confident in his ability to recruit and assemble talent at PC which is good for the conference. Cooley also has the support of the big time alumni which is definitely vital too.
If I had a gun to my head today I'm confident JaKarr will be at St. John's next season. Things can always change but everything is lined up in STJ's favor.
Even after Cooley's reaction to your post game question? :)
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I love Coach Cooley as a person and coach. I'm pretty confident in his ability to recruit and assemble talent at PC which is good for the conference. Cooley also has the support of the big time alumni which is definitely vital too.
If I had a gun to my head today I'm confident JaKarr will be at St. John's next season. Things can always change but everything is lined up in STJ's favor.
Even after Cooley's reaction to your post game question? :)
He keeps it real.
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Sampson will not end up back at St. John's (imho), and neither will Pelle.
Steve Lavin needs to get well ASAP, and start making himself visible again to prospective recruits otherwise we're in big trouble going forward which is nothing new now for this basketball program. Plus we're going to start dealing with underclassmen such as Mo Harkless going pro very early.
We need to start landing some commitments and making them STICK otherwise it's a fake-out paper-tiger like last years class was after we lost almost half of our signed recruits who never ended up playing a single play here at St. John's.
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I've always been of the mindset that Lavin should take his time and come back when he's ready, but if we lose out on Jakarr too, I think he needs to get on the sidelines ASAP.
I totally emphasize with your anxiety kingofk1ngs, but if our recruiting takes a hit this year in order for Lavin to make a full recovery from his cancer surgery, then IMHO, so be it. After all, we are fans of a CATHOLIC university's BB program. Need to put the health of our coach ahead of our desire to be super competitive on the recruiting trail. ;)
And if that lovely coach at that Baptist school was going for JaKarr like he did Rico, I'm sure he wouldn't dare bring up coach's health to gain an advantage - ;D
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Sampson will not end up back at St. John's (imho), and neither will Pelle.
Steve Lavin needs to get well ASAP, and start making himself visible again to prospective recruits otherwise we're in big trouble going forward which is nothing new now for this basketball program. Plus we're going to start dealing with underclassmen such as Mo Harkless going pro very early.
We need to start landing some commitments and making them STICK otherwise it's a fake-out paper-tiger like last years class was after we lost almost half of our signed recruits who never ended up playing a single play here at St. John's.
Yes, we get it. After the first 100 times you said it it started to sink in.
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Sampson will not end up back at St. John's (imho), and neither will Pelle.
Steve Lavin needs to get well ASAP, and start making himself visible again to prospective recruits otherwise we're in big trouble going forward which is nothing new now for this basketball program. Plus we're going to start dealing with underclassmen such as Mo Harkless going pro very early.
We need to start landing some commitments and making them STICK otherwise it's a fake-out paper-tiger like last years class was after we lost almost half of our signed recruits who never ended up playing a single play here at St. John's.
Yes, we get it. After the first 100 times you said it it started to sink in.
Does he mean Pelle is not coming next year? How about in 2013? ;)
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
Sampson will be a Johnnie as sure as you will post about Iona before its 1st round NCAA tournament matchup.
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
Sampson will be a Johnnie as sure as you will post about Iona before its 1st round NCAA tournament matchup.
Dont be 1 of those guys, youre better than that. Whats next, gonna tell me Im fat? lol
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
Sampson will be a Johnnie as sure as you will post about Iona before its 1st round NCAA tournament matchup.
Dont be 1 of those guys, youre better than that. Whats next, gonna tell me Im fat? lol
I thought Kansas and Baylor were the main competition
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
Sampson will be a Johnnie as sure as you will post about Iona before its 1st round NCAA tournament matchup.
Dont be 1 of those guys, youre better than that. Whats next, gonna tell me Im fat? lol
I thought Kansas and Baylor were the main competition
Thats what I didnt want to hear.
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At Baylor he would have to compete w Gathers for PT unless they have an opening @ SF. He will get the most PT w us.
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At Baylor he would have to compete w Gathers for PT unless they have an opening @ SF. He will get the most PT w us.
I wont post what I want to
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
Sampson will be a Johnnie as sure as you will post about Iona before its 1st round NCAA tournament matchup.
Dont be 1 of those guys, youre better than that. Whats next, gonna tell me Im fat? lol
I thought Kansas and Baylor were the main competition
Thats what I didnt want to hear.
Actually, coach Lavin's main competition in recruiting is J Smith, who's recruiting JS for Bill Self.
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
Sampson will be a Johnnie as sure as you will post about Iona before its 1st round NCAA tournament matchup.
Dont be 1 of those guys, youre better than that. Whats next, gonna tell me Im fat? lol
I thought Kansas and Baylor were the main competition
Thats what I didnt want to hear.
Actually, coach Lavin's main competition in recruiting is J Smith, who's recruiting JS for Bill Self.
Damn, I dont like going up against Self either. Cmon Sampson, show some sack. THe GArden is yours!
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Can someone tell me who is our main competition for Sampson?
The negative nancies on this board who will doom and gloom until he commits.
Cmon man, who else is recruiting him?
Hoe about Billy Donovan.
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Got to recruit against the big boys if you're going to compete with the big boys...
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Whom is j smith?
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Whom is j smith?
Coach of Brewster Academy.
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Whom is j smith?
Coach of Brewster Academy.
Happy, what happenned to your boy Fludd?
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Whom is j smith?
Coach of Brewster Academy.
Happy, what happenned to your boy Fludd?
He is playing well for B&G... Huge game today at 5 against Lincoln.. Although i believe Whitehead is out for tonight. I love Fludd and although i dont think he is a bonafied Big East recruit.. he would be a great option if we already had a roster filled out here. The kid has a non stop motor.. Funny thing is that the local mid majors ( Iona, Manhattan, Fordham) are going to be getting some great kids in the next couple of years.. Kids like Jaquan Lynch from Jefferson and Jalen Jenkins are missing things that would make them Big East kids ( height etc.) but they can really play.
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Whom is j smith?
Coach of Brewster Academy.
Happy, what happenned to your boy Fludd?
He is playing well for B&G... Huge game today at 5 against Lincoln.. Although i believe Whitehead is out for tonight. I love Fludd and although i dont think he is a bonafied Big East recruit.. he would be a great option if we already had a roster filled out here. The kid has a non stop motor.. Funny thing is that the local mid majors ( Iona, Manhattan, Fordham) are going to be getting some great kids in the next couple of years.. Kids like Jaquan Lynch from Jefferson and Jalen Jenkins are missing things that would make them Big East kids ( height etc.) but they can really play.
I know Iona is on Jenkins
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Whom is j smith?
Coach of Brewster Academy.
Happy, what happenned to your boy Fludd?
He is playing well for B&G... Huge game today at 5 against Lincoln.. Although i believe Whitehead is out for tonight. I love Fludd and although i dont think he is a bonafied Big East recruit.. he would be a great option if we already had a roster filled out here. The kid has a non stop motor.. Funny thing is that the local mid majors ( Iona, Manhattan, Fordham) are going to be getting some great kids in the next couple of years.. Kids like Jaquan Lynch from Jefferson and Jalen Jenkins are missing things that would make them Big East kids ( height etc.) but they can really play.
I know Iona is on Jenkins
Not as much as Fordham. He is priority number 1 for them and i would be shocked if he didnt wind up there.
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JonRothstein Hearing Providence is in excellent shape with 2012 F Jakarr Sampson. Would be another tremendous addition to Ed Cooley's monster class!
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JonRothstein Hearing Providence is in excellent shape with 2012 F Jakarr Sampson. Would be another tremendous addition to Ed Cooley's monster class!
Maybe so but fact remains Rothstein is a TOOL!
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So much TOOL in Jon Rothstein...
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I've gotten that vibe that PC is in really good shape with him but I still dont understand why in the world he would chose them over us
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Sometimes Jon's sources are as bad as his comparisons. He hustles and is out there but I wouldn't live and breathe on his recruiting juice. PC is trying to develop some buzz through the media which is smart but don't buy into it.
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To be fair, Providence has a super class coming in with Ledo and Dunn and some promising young players. Council is also no one to sneeze at. Jakaar would also get PT and I believe he likes Cooley. Thus, there are some factors in Prvidence's favor. We have the garden, exposure and a good staff, but Providence would not be an outlandish choice. Let's hope we prevail.
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I've gotten that vibe that PC is in really good shape with him but I still dont understand why in the world he would chose them over us
No coach.
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I've gotten that vibe that PC is in really good shape with him but I still dont understand why in the world he would chose them over us
No coach.
Lav will be back, if he is following you around for the second time around it should give you a good indication he's in it for the long haul
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So much TOOL in Jon Rothstein...
fantastic!
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We lose sampson to Providence, wow
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We lose sampson to Providence, wow
have we lost him yet?
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I hope this talk about Sampson to Providence is premature. I've heard the hype. I know Providence players have been attending his games. Cooley going after him hard. But I just can't believe he'd end up playing in our conference for another team after being tight with Harkless, Harrison, etc. Still can't get that photo with him in SJU gear out of my mind.
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Et Tu ? Jakaar? >:(
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PC is trying to develop some buzz through the media which is smart but don't buy into it.
Exactly. Plus I think it goes even deeper than that. Psychological games whereby if they repeat the same stuff over and over again Sampson himself will consider them more than he ordinarily would have.
We should start flooding every fan site and sports blog we see saying that Shabazz will be coming here.
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That last interview he had on TV he sounded pretty excited talking about Providence. That being said I can't really understand why anyone would get excited about playing at providence
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If we lose Karr to Providence, I will slit my wrists. Honestly though if he doesn't come our way, I doubt he goes to another Big East school.
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lavin and our program is a mess
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This guy is more annoying than illwill. At least illwill posted his crap all the time. Those cheese guy only comes around after something bad happens.
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I like the post suggesting that we start associating Shabazz with SJU (quoted below, I think, but I am not sure if I am doing this correctly). Maybe we should start a thread on Shabazz talking about why it is important for a potential 1-and-done to showcase his skills in the world's most famous arena and basketball's national stage.
We should start flooding every fan site and sports blog we see saying that Shabazz will be coming here.
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I like the post suggesting that we start associating Shabazz with SJU (quoted below, I think, but I am not sure if I am doing this correctly). Maybe we should start a thread on Shabazz talking about why it is important for a potential 1-and-done to showcase his skills in the world's most famous arena and basketball's national stage.
We should start flooding every fan site and sports blog we see saying that Shabazz will be coming here.
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its pretty obvious hes not considering us if we do that thats pretty desperate looking
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This guy is more annoying than illwill. At least illwill posted his crap all the time. Those cheese guy only comes around after something bad happens.
agreed. this guy is the definition of that word that dave doesn't want us to say around here. You know, little ugly dude that hangs out under bridges and stuff.
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
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No one player will make or break this program, and I still have faith in Lavin.
But I REALLY want(ed) Sampson. Like others have said I think he's the perfect compliment to Lavin's system, and was made to play along side Moe.
Hope this takes a turn in our favor.
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Not giving up, but smartly protecting his flank. Probably seeing Pangas as well.
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Not giving up, but smartly protecting his flank. Probably seeing Pangas as well.
If Parga is as good as Pangos sign him up right away!!! ; )
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We're not RE-signing Sampson again. You can forget about it, and watch how right I'm going to be and the same goes for Pelle.
This St. John's BB-program is in big trouble right now. We've been losing two players a month for the past 4 months either to transfer or academic non-qualifiers. WHAT A MESS! I have never seen anything quite this drastic in regard to losing players in such a short period time EVER by any school.
Plus Harkless could enter the NBA draft. Lavin is in trouble right now and this basketball program is floundering. Lavin needs to re-establish himself get himself back to where he's visible again otherwise he's not going to be long for this job either.
Right now I don't see a winning season at St. John's in basketball for at LEAST two more years.
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We're not RE-signing Sampson again. You can forget about it, and watch how right I'm going to be and the same goes for Pelle.
This St. John's BB-program is in big trouble right now. We've been losing two players a month for the past 4 months either to transfer or academic non-qualifiers. WHAT A MESS! I have never seen anything quite this drastic in regard to losing players in such a short period time EVER by any school.
Plus Harkless could enter the NFL draft. Lavin is in trouble right now and this basketball program is floundering. Lavin needs to re-establish himself get himself back to where he's visible again otherwise he's not going to be long for this job either.
Right now I don't see a winning season at St. John's in basketball for at two more years.
Harkless would make a mean wideout at the next level. How are his hands? Is he willing to go over the middle? Big question marks as he enters the combine next month.
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Pelle's not coming? Your kidding. I thought for sure he would change his mind. ::)
What would we do without your prognostications, Lapchick?
No winning seasons for 2 years. Wanna bet? Lavin not long for this job? If you are implying he gets fired for performance, you are out of your mind.
Seriously man, up the dosage...maybe triple it.
Wow...just wow
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We're not RE-signing Sampson again. You can forget about it, and watch how right I'm going to be and the same goes for Pelle.
This St. John's BB-program is in big trouble right now. We've been losing two players a month for the past 4 months either to transfer or academic non-qualifiers. WHAT A MESS! I have never seen anything quite this drastic in regard to losing players in such a short period time EVER by any school.
Plus Harkless could enter the NFL draft. Lavin is in trouble right now and this basketball program is floundering. Lavin needs to re-establish himself get himself back to where he's visible again otherwise he's not going to be long for this job either.
Right now I don't see a winning season at St. John's in basketball for at two more years.
A couple things here....
1) No one is talking about Pelle coming back
2) Harkless dont play football
3) Lavin & this program aint floundering
4) Lavin comes back when he is ready & hopefully that is soon. Either way he is fine and will get the job done and will be here on his terms for a while
5) You cant predict the future when we have 7 spots to fill & to think we wont have a winning season in the near future is absurd
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We're not RE-signing Sampson again. You can forget about it, and watch how right I'm going to be and the same goes for Pelle.
This St. John's BB-program is in big trouble right now. We've been losing two players a month for the past 4 months either to transfer or academic non-qualifiers. WHAT A MESS! I have never seen anything quite this drastic in regard to losing players in such a short period time EVER by any school.
Plus Harkless could enter the NFL draft. Lavin is in trouble right now and this basketball program is floundering. Lavin needs to re-establish himself get himself back to where he's visible again otherwise he's not going to be long for this job either.
Right now I don't see a winning season at St. John's in basketball for at two more years.
2) Harkless dont play football
LOL
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No one player will make or break this program, and I still have faith in Lavin.
But I REALLY want(ed) Sampson. Like others have said I think he's the perfect compliment to Lavin's system, and was made to play along side Moe.
Hope this takes a turn in our favor.
Well said... No one player will make or break this program. That's the way it will always be.
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We're not RE-signing Sampson again. You can forget about it, and watch how right I'm going to be and the same goes for Pelle.
This St. John's BB-program is in big trouble right now. We've been losing two players a month for the past 4 months either to transfer or academic non-qualifiers. WHAT A MESS! I have never seen anything quite this drastic in regard to losing players in such a short period time EVER by any school.
Plus Harkless could enter the NFL draft. Lavin is in trouble right now and this basketball program is floundering. Lavin needs to re-establish himself get himself back to where he's visible again otherwise he's not going to be long for this job either.
Right now I don't see a winning season at St. John's in basketball for at two more years.
2) Harkless dont play football
LOL
I was thinking my Cowboys might draft him. Half the guys on their roster aren't football players. :'(
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
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Marillac has pointed out what I've suspected for some time, that fans of other teams sneak in and drop negative stuff to make our fan base look bad. Disgraceful.
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
Could not agree more.
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U-C-L-A!!!
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
Don't be so sure. These are exactly the same kind of whackjobs who inhabited Bruin boards during Coach Lavins years there. You know the ones where getting the #1, #2 and #4 recruing classes in 6 years somehow meant a lazy, poor recruiting, uninformed coach. Where winning 22 games a season for 6 straight years = a loser bench coach. Where being one of only 2 coaches in D-1 during a 6 year span to reache the sweet 16 or better = pure luck, a monkey could do it - and the only other monkey was Krzyzewski. Where being voted to the AP or UPI top 25 for six straight years (during that period only done by K at Duke and Keady at Purdue), was a sign that he was destroying the program. Where leaving his successor a squad with 4 future NBA players, and two more 15+pt NBDL players - 2 of those six being 7 foot centers, with 2 of the 6 as starters in the NCAA Title game 3 years later...all translated to a program completely destroyed, and a cupboard left completely bare.
How insane can it get? The mods of the Scout Bruin board actually posted that his greatest sin was than he didn't have the team in a position to challenge for a National Title. When I tried to point out that thing about K and Lav being the only 2 to the S16 or better 5 times in 6 years, and that meant he was one of the top 2 coaches whose teams DID challege for a title, I was nearly run off the boards - Sweet 16s have nothing to do with winning a title. But I never could get an answer as to how you get to a National Title WITHOUT getting to the Sweet 16.
Yes, I'm paranoid on the subject, but being paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.
This is all very "deja vu"....
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
I've been thinking that for a few weeks also.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say right now I think Marco Baldi is an Iona fan. LOL
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
I'm one of the more positive posters here, but I agree with your last statement
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I propose a Salem like witch hunt and seek these posters out and burn them at the stake up in Providence
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
But weren't most of these 'fans' around for the previous regime(s)
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Most of the posters surely are SJU fans, but it seems obvious that there are a few anti-SJU posters posing as big time SJU fans- who not only bring up negative viewpoints but harp on them constantly.
There are half thimble full fans that are in fact SJU fans but their lot in life is to look on the pessimistic side of things, not just SJU things.
Then there are the low-lifes who relish in posting negatively about programs they hope will collapse and they will do their part in trying to bring it about-all the while protesting that they are the true SJU fans and have every right to bash the players, staff and whatever else they can about SJU. I try not to respond to those I deem to fit in the later category-reaction to their posts fuels them like a narcotic and keeps the negative posts alive longer.
JMHO
To all the true SJU fans-(Marco I believe you to be a true SJU fan even though you have a "slight" IONA lean :)have a great day!
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Most of the posters surely are SJU fans, but it seems obvious that there are a few anti-SJU posters posing as big time SJU fans- who not only bring up negative viewpoints but harp on them constantly.
There are half thimble full fans that are in fact SJU fans but their lot in life is to look on the pessimistic side of things, not just SJU things.
Then there are the low-lifes who relish in posting negatively about programs they hope will collapse and they will do their part in trying to bring it about-all the while protesting that they are the true SJU fans and have every right to bash the players, staff and whatever else they can about SJU. I try not to respond to those I deem to fit in the later category-reaction to their posts fuels them like a narcotic and keeps the negative posts alive longer.
JMHO
To all the true SJU fans-(Marco I believe you to be a true SJU fan even though you have a "slight" IONA lean :)have a great day!
Jayro, glad you posted this. It would be interesting to get everyone in a room and have at it.
Sounds like a job for Mike M.
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Overall. we have shown Sampson a lot of love. Our fan base is in a bit ot a rut right now. A couple of wins and commits and these threads will have a different tone.
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Thank you Tiznow-I did err in saying half thimble full as I should have said thimble half empty.
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Overall. we have shown Sampson a lot of love. Our fan base is in a bit ot a rut right now. A couple of wins and commits and these threads will have a different tone.
To spin it a different way, it could be said that Sampson and Gathers failure to commit is a bit of the cause of our fan base rut to begin with... Had we landed one or both by now, this place wild be rosy. So Jakarr, just commit already so our overy pessimistic fan base of late can recuperate...
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Jakarr has got plenty of love from this staff and fanbase. Ball is in his court. If he goes elsewhere its nobody's fault. Its just a decision. I don't want to hear how Lavin and Co. blew this one. They absolutely did not.
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Jakarr has got plenty of love from this staff and fanbase. Ball is in his court. If he goes elsewhere its nobody's fault. Its just a decision. I don't want to hear how Lavin and Co. blew this one. They absolutely did not.
Maybe if it wasn't for the rise fiasco jakar would be here. But that's clearly not on our infallible coach
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Do you guys think Lavin is blowing smoke when he talks about bringing in a top 10 class?
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Do you guys think Lavin is blowing smoke when he talks about bringing in a top 10 class?
I think lavin probably believed it when he said it. Wasn't one of norm's classes ranked high in one publication. Unfortunately volume sometimes skews the rankings
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Do you guys think Lavin is blowing smoke when he talks about bringing in a top 10 class?
I think lavin probably believed it when he said it. Wasn't one of norm's classes ranked high in one publication. Unfortunately volume sometimes skews the rankings
Didn't he say it this week on a radio interview?
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Jakarr has got plenty of love from this staff and fanbase. Ball is in his court. If he goes elsewhere its nobody's fault. Its just a decision. I don't want to hear how Lavin and Co. blew this one. They absolutely did not.
Maybe if it wasn't for the rise fiasco jakar would be here. But that's clearly not on our infallible coach
He could of buckled down and been here for second semester like Amir if he really wanted to.
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Do you guys think Lavin is blowing smoke when he talks about bringing in a top 10 class?
I think lavin probably believed it when he said it. Wasn't one of norm's classes ranked high in one publication. Unfortunately volume sometimes skews the rankings
He said it a few days ago. Lavin is going after guys he feels he can land...guys that both he and Dunlap fit into the blueprint of a long, athletic, defensive-minded and versatile roster. Whether or not that blue print works will be determined over the next three or four years. Lavin told us he was going to deliver a top ten class last year and he signed the #3 class overall. This year he says he will deliver a top five or top ten class. Why doubt him?
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Most of the posters surely are SJU fans, but it seems obvious that there are a few anti-SJU posters posing as big time SJU fans- who not only bring up negative viewpoints but harp on them constantly.
There are half thimble full fans that are in fact SJU fans but their lot in life is to look on the pessimistic side of things, not just SJU things.
Then there are the low-lifes who relish in posting negatively about programs they hope will collapse and they will do their part in trying to bring it about-all the while protesting that they are the true SJU fans and have every right to bash the players, staff and whatever else they can about SJU. I try not to respond to those I deem to fit in the later category-reaction to their posts fuels them like a narcotic and keeps the negative posts alive longer.
JMHO
To all the true SJU fans-(Marco I believe you to be a true SJU fan even though you have a "slight" IONA lean :)have a great day!
Put the St. John's Kool-Aid down jayro. It's dreamers like you on this board (AND THERE ARE TONS OF THEM/you dominate the board) that breed/mirror a losing environment here at St. John's, and you inadvertently become much more of a barrier to future success than offering constructive criticisim designed to help the situation. Everything is always "fine with your club, and don't worry about anything", but meanwhile the RESULTS/FACTS/SEASON RECORD support my opinion over & over again 9 times out of every 10 years. "Don't worry about this, and don't worry about that" and meanwhile we're losing this guy and that guy and this guy on & on & on...and losing more games than we're ever winning (last season excluded). It's time to wake up and start taking a long hard look at the facts and stop slurping your Kool-Aid. EX: Remember, they didn't like what Jesus was saying either so they nailed him to a cross. God forbid some of you ever recognized where some St. John's fans like myself are coming from. We might actually start consistently winning, God forbid.
With fans like you jayro we don't need enemies. Your a consistent positive happy dreamer that defends below mediocrity/losing, BUT AT LEAST YOUR POSITIVE RIGHT. Yeah, positive about a false sense of reality. I can be positive too when the situation TRULY calls for being that way, but does this situation or does the past 10 years TRULY call for being that way? (Of course it doesn't and all you have to do is look at the facts/the results to know that I'm right (unfortunately), that's if your honest enough with yourselves to do that). This board isn't ready for someone like me. I'm too brutally honest and most of you can't deal with that so I'll be eventually shown the door for being 100% SPOT-ON RIGHT. "Show me a hero and I'll write you a tragedy".
So lets continue going forward as one big positive happy losing family kidding ourselves. God forbid we ever STARTED discussing the facts or the unwanted results though and what is potentially needed to start helping the situation. "Help? We don't need help, we're just fine..." (lol)
The first thing a person has to do in order to start helping better themselves is to be able to recognize that a problem exists in the first place. Are we doing that on this board?
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Did you just compare yourself to Jesus?
Now I've seen it all.
Lapchick1- Don't you think we should wait until the spring signing period is over before we go crazy about our potential team for next year? This year has been a disappointment off the court, no doubt. Question for you- What were your on the court expectation for this season that has you so angry and upset. Did you think we would win twenty?
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No body is saying we dont have problems. If more players transfer and Lavin cant recruit good players ,we are going to be in deep sh.t. If this great core stays and Lavin recruits 2 quality bigs and a shooter, the future will look very bright. I think the latter is going to happen.
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Rojo = Jesus
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Rojo = Jesus
RedJesus = the devil ?
Kidding aside- that previous post by Rojo might make a top 5 all time head shaking moment for me reading these STJ boards.
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Brewster is playing ST.Johns Northwestern Military Academy @ Rhode island college right now on Cox Cable
Sorry no links
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Brewster is playing ST.Johns Northwestern Military Academy @ Rhode island college right now on Cox Cable
Sorry no links
Game was played last week Jakarr had a big game
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Most of the posters surely are SJU fans, but it seems obvious that there are a few anti-SJU posters posing as big time SJU fans- who not only bring up negative viewpoints but harp on them constantly.
There are half thimble full fans that are in fact SJU fans but their lot in life is to look on the pessimistic side of things, not just SJU things.
Then there are the low-lifes who relish in posting negatively about programs they hope will collapse and they will do their part in trying to bring it about-all the while protesting that they are the true SJU fans and have every right to bash the players, staff and whatever else they can about SJU. I try not to respond to those I deem to fit in the later category-reaction to their posts fuels them like a narcotic and keeps the negative posts alive longer.
JMHO
To all the true SJU fans-(Marco I believe you to be a true SJU fan even though you have a "slight" IONA lean :)have a great day!
This board isn't ready for someone like me.
Finally, we agree on one thing. Dave, ban this fool or at least suspend him until signing day.
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sorry if I sound naive, but when does the spring signing period begin?
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spring signing period begins April 11th thru May 16th for this year per http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli)
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Lapchick1 is seriously like a WWF character. When he used to post as Buki on redmen.com, he'd start a bunch of positive, pro-St. John's threads that no one EVER responded to. So then he turned into rojo, a heel poster, to get attention, and everyone is giving it to him.
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Lapchick1 is seriously like a WWF character. When he used to post as Buki on redmen.com, he'd start a bunch of positive, pro-St. John's threads that no one EVER responded to. So then he turned into rojo, a heel poster, to get attention, and everyone is giving it to him.
How do these clowns find their way back to these boards all the time and all at once? Really wish they'd pick another team and clog up their message boards with this stuff.
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Lapchick1 is seriously like a WWF character. When he used to post as Buki on redmen.com, he'd start a bunch of positive, pro-St. John's threads that no one EVER responded to. So then he turned into rojo, a heel poster, to get attention, and everyone is giving it to him.
LOL this is hysterical.
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
You sound like bashar asad.
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Cooley is watching Jakarr again today. I know Brewster is close .. but this Providence thing just might have legs.
Coach Lav back out west again. Maybe giving up on Jakarr and shifting his focus to Sheppard?
No. The only way Sampson doesn't end up here is if our fanbase continues to be disgraceful. If I'm a recruit all of these posts would scare me. I ask the mods on both boards to be extra strict the next few weeks. I'm convinced the barrage of insanely neagative postings are the work of fans from different programs.
You sound like bashar asad.
And you sound like a negative Scotch.
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And you sound like a negative Scotch.
Does anyone know what happened to him, he vanished like a fart in the wind.
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The next post on this thread should be if Sampson is coming or not. Every time I see a new post I click thinking this is it, and then it's like what is this stuff about.
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The next post on this thread should be if Sampson is coming or not. Every time I see a new post I click thinking this is it, and then it's like what is this stuff about.
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The next post on this thread should be if Sampson is coming or not. Every time I see a new post I click thinking this is it, and then it's like what is this stuff about.
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The next post on this thread should be if Sampson is coming or not. Every time I see a new post I click thinking this is it, and then it's like what is this stuff about.
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+3 -- Following this post, any poster who posts here should be banned or such post should be deleted immediately. How am I doing Marillac?
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The next post on this thread should be if Sampson is coming or not. Every time I see a new post I click thinking this is it, and then it's like what is this stuff about.
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+3 -- Following this post, any poster who posts here should be banned or such post should be deleted immediately. How am I doing Marillac?
Agreed!
btw Sampson to take an offiicial with Shabazz to Kansas per ZAGS!
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Are you aware of how many 3 and 4's Kansas has. PLUS hes visiting with another in Shabazz.
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Are you aware of how many 3 and 4's Kansas has. PLUS hes visiting with another in Shabazz.
Do you feel good about our chances with Sampson? Doesn't make sense it would take this long if he wanted to be here. I don't follow it like you and others do though, I may be missing something..
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Are you aware of how many 3 and 4's Kansas has. PLUS hes visiting with another in Shabazz.
Do you feel good about our chances with Sampson? Doesn't make sense it would take this long if he wanted to be here. I don't follow it like you and others do though, I may be missing something..
All I've heard is were in very good shape with him.
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I get the feeling Kansas as well. Bill self is one guy that really develops big men. Look at Thomas and that white kid this year.
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Are you aware of how many 3 and 4's Kansas has. PLUS hes visiting with another in Shabazz.
Do you feel good about our chances with Sampson? Doesn't make sense it would take this long if he wanted to be here. I don't follow it like you and others do though, I may be missing something..
All I've heard is were in very good shape with him.
We all thought we were in good shape with Gathers too
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Are you aware of how many 3 and 4's Kansas has. PLUS hes visiting with another in Shabazz.
Do you feel good about our chances with Sampson? Doesn't make sense it would take this long if he wanted to be here. I don't follow it like you and others do though, I may be missing something..
All I've heard is were in very good shape with him.
We all thought we were in good shape with Gathers too
We were.
Things happen.
These are 18 yr old kids with ppl pulling them in different directions, many times the wrong people.
Everyone needs to learn not to get too high or too low when it comes to recruiting. We had a couple of kids decommitt for a number of reasons. Fast forward a few years and some of the kids we will never hear from.
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Agree. Fans in general are so inpatient. I know Lavin being out concerns people, but you have to take the guy at his word, particularly when coupled with what everyone knows is an illness with side effects that, um, makes it obvious as to why he isn't on the court. Let's not jump shit already and go nuts over a bad season. Look no further than my NY Giants, who have a coach that would have been fired 100000 times over by NY fans, and a QB who sooo many fans doubted, both of whom are immortal now and will go down in NY history.
We had our most success in a decade last year on the court (and a surprise to boot), followed by an excellent recruiting class. Yes, we lost a few of those guys, and it has dramatically changed this season, along with our head coach being out. But plenty of programs would LOVE to have the five freshman we have right now. When in the past 10 years did we ever bring in recruits like Mo or D-Lo (plus Amir and Dom). The answer is that we didn't.
Stay the course and support the guys we have. I, for one, think the future is bright, and will continue to believe that until Lavin says he is not coming back.
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
Florida should scare us. Have you seen their cheerleaders?
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
First you say Sampson is ours and then you say you fear Florida. What's to fear if as you say he is ours? I don't understand your logic-please clarify. ???
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
First you say Sampson is ours and then you say you fear Florida. What's to fear if as you say he is ours? I don't understand your logic-please clarify. ???
I don't make the choices for these kids. I heard some very, very good stuff about him...but like we have some sort of black cloud around us...a ticket scandal comes up, Malik Stith leaves the team, and our fanbase posts like we are going the the MAAC next year. If I'm a teenage recruit, I would be scared. Also, Florida always scares me because the girls are so hot and a kid thinking with the wrong part of his body could be swayed. And of course while all of this is happening to us, Billy Donovan shows up at Sampson's game and recruits the kid personally.
It's like hearing that a girl will say yes to you if you ask her to the prom in high school and right after you ask her and before she finishes the reply she already took a breath to let out, Brad Pitt swoops in and asks her.
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
First you say Sampson is ours and then you say you fear Florida. What's to fear if as you say he is ours? I don't understand your logic-please clarify. ???
I don't make the choices for these kids. I heard some very, very good stuff about him...but like we have some sort of black cloud around us...a ticket scandal comes up, Malik Stith leaves the team, and our fanbase posts like we are going the the MAAC next year. If I'm a teenage recruit, I would be scared. Also, Florida always scares me because the girls are so hot and a kid thinking with the wrong part of his body could be swayed. And of course while all of this is happening to us, Billy Donovan shows up at Sampson's game and recruits the kid personally.
It's like hearing that a girl will say yes to you if you ask her to the prom in high school and right after you ask her and before she finishes the reply she already took a breathe to let out, Brad Pitt swoops in and asks her.
Sorry but I cannot relate to your analogy because I am the Brad Pitt in your scenario. :)
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
First you say Sampson is ours and then you say you fear Florida. What's to fear if as you say he is ours? I don't understand your logic-please clarify. ???
I don't make the choices for these kids. I heard some very, very good stuff about him...but like we have some sort of black cloud around us...a ticket scandal comes up, Malik Stith leaves the team, and our fanbase posts like we are going the the MAAC next year. If I'm a teenage recruit, I would be scared. Also, Florida always scares me because the girls are so hot and a kid thinking with the wrong part of his body could be swayed. And of course while all of this is happening to us, Billy Donovan shows up at Sampson's game and recruits the kid personally.
It's like hearing that a girl will say yes to you if you ask her to the prom in high school and right after you ask her and before she finishes the reply she already took a breath to let out, Brad Pitt swoops in and asks her.
We heard very very good things about Anderson and gathers. I believe nothing about recruits anymore unless they commit. In good shape means nothing
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
First you say Sampson is ours and then you say you fear Florida. What's to fear if as you say he is ours? I don't understand your logic-please clarify. ???
I don't make the choices for these kids. I heard some very, very good stuff about him...but like we have some sort of black cloud around us...a ticket scandal comes up, Malik Stith leaves the team, and our fanbase posts like we are going the the MAAC next year. If I'm a teenage recruit, I would be scared. Also, Florida always scares me because the girls are so hot and a kid thinking with the wrong part of his body could be swayed. And of course while all of this is happening to us, Billy Donovan shows up at Sampson's game and recruits the kid personally.
It's like hearing that a girl will say yes to you if you ask her to the prom in high school and right after you ask her and before she finishes the reply she already took a breathe to let out, Brad Pitt swoops in and asks her.
Sorry but I cannot relate to your analogy because I am the Brad Pitt in your scenario. :)
Sounds like a man crush on Billy D to me.
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Shouldn't Billy Donovan be focusing more on replacing that adorable Ervin Walker?
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Shouldn't Billy Donovan be focusing more on replacing that adorable Ervin Walker?
they already have a top 10 pg coming in
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Shouldn't Billy Donovan be focusing more on replacing that adorable Ervin Walker?
they already have a top 10 pg coming in
They actually need some bigs almst as badly as we do. They have commitments from top pg's this year and next, though.
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Shouldn't Billy Donovan be focusing more on replacing that adorable Ervin Walker?
they already have a top 10 pg coming in
They actually need some bigs almst as badly as we do. They have commitments from top pg's this year and next, though.
They have some backcourt. Rosario would be my 5th guard on that squad
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
First you say Sampson is ours and then you say you fear Florida. What's to fear if as you say he is ours? I don't understand your logic-please clarify. ???
I don't make the choices for these kids. I heard some very, very good stuff about him...but like we have some sort of black cloud around us...a ticket scandal comes up, Malik Stith leaves the team, and our fanbase posts like we are going the the MAAC next year. If I'm a teenage recruit, I would be scared. Also, Florida always scares me because the girls are so hot and a kid thinking with the wrong part of his body could be swayed. And of course while all of this is happening to us, Billy Donovan shows up at Sampson's game and recruits the kid personally.
It's like hearing that a girl will say yes to you if you ask her to the prom in high school and right after you ask her and before she finishes the reply she already took a breath to let out, Brad Pitt swoops in and asks her.
We heard very very good things about Anderson and gathers. I believe nothing about recruits anymore unless they commit. In good shape means nothing
To be honest, I won't feel good until the recruits actually step foot on campus and are declared eligible.
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I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a really hard time seeing Sampson sign with SJU. To echo some posters, it's very hard to lock them back up once they've decommitted.
I don't think he leaves the KU campus without signing a LOI.
Sampson is ours. The only school I fear is Florida which is more of a last minute wild card than anything. KU is a free trip to see his boy Naadir. I also heard he's going to Louisville.
First you say Sampson is ours and then you say you fear Florida. What's to fear if as you say he is ours? I don't understand your logic-please clarify. ???
I don't make the choices for these kids. I heard some very, very good stuff about him...but like we have some sort of black cloud around us...a ticket scandal comes up, Malik Stith leaves the team, and our fanbase posts like we are going the the MAAC next year. If I'm a teenage recruit, I would be scared. Also, Florida always scares me because the girls are so hot and a kid thinking with the wrong part of his body could be swayed. And of course while all of this is happening to us, Billy Donovan shows up at Sampson's game and recruits the kid personally.
It's like hearing that a girl will say yes to you if you ask her to the prom in high school and right after you ask her and before she finishes the reply she already took a breath to let out, Brad Pitt swoops in and asks her.
We heard very very good things about Anderson and gathers. I believe nothing about recruits anymore unless they commit. In good shape means nothing
To be honest, I won't feel good until the recruits actually step foot on campus and are declared eligible.
Smart man.
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don't know that i like this tweet from BrewsterHoops:
"#Providence coaching staff works very hard to develop relationships with the top players in Northeast. Cooley will win in #BigEast."
can this be an indirect jab at Lav's focus on the west coast?
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don't know that i like this tweet from BrewsterHoops:
"#Providence coaching staff works very hard to develop relationships with the top players in Northeast. Cooley will win in #BigEast."
can this be an indirect jab at Lav's focus on the west coast?
I'm really beginning to dislike Brewster.
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don't know that i like this tweet from BrewsterHoops:
"#Providence coaching staff works very hard to develop relationships with the top players in Northeast. Cooley will win in #BigEast."
can this be an indirect jab at Lav's focus on the west coast?
Nobody has recruited Sampson harder. Lav also recruited McGarry and Tharpe from Brewster, so that program and the NEPSAC are getting plenty of love.
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don't know that i like this tweet from BrewsterHoops:
"#Providence coaching staff works very hard to develop relationships with the top players in Northeast. Cooley will win in #BigEast."
can this be an indirect jab at Lav's focus on the west coast?
I'm really beginning to dislike Brewster.
twitter Brewster Hoops = J Smith = you dislike J Smith
Oh, even with talent, I bet PC does not ever break top quarter of Beast standings - ever - w/ EC. SJ's will.
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I saw a tweet that said none of the coaches except cooley were at the brewster vs. tilton game tonight to see noels. I think they were referring to fl, gtwn, and the other schools not being there to see Noels. I Don't think it is a reflection on sampsons recruitment.god knows Lavin has put in the time with Jakarr having to recruit him twice.
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don't know that i like this tweet from BrewsterHoops:
"#Providence coaching staff works very hard to develop relationships with the top players in Northeast. Cooley will win in #BigEast."
can this be an indirect jab at Lav's focus on the west coast?
Too bad Cooley can't coach a lick.
Have fun with Ledo next year. That guy will rip any team apart.
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don't know that i like this tweet from BrewsterHoops:
"#Providence coaching staff works very hard to develop relationships with the top players in Northeast. Cooley will win in #BigEast."
can this be an indirect jab at Lav's focus on the west coast?
Too bad Cooley can't coach a lick.
Have fun with Ledo next year. That guy will rip any team apart.
LOL
In regards to Ledo, Should we start a transfer pool? :2funny:
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don't know that i like this tweet from BrewsterHoops:
"#Providence coaching staff works very hard to develop relationships with the top players in Northeast. Cooley will win in #BigEast."
can this be an indirect jab at Lav's focus on the west coast?
Too bad Cooley can't coach a lick.
Have fun with Ledo next year. That guy will rip any team apart.
LOL
In regards to Ledo, Should we start a transfer pool? :2funny:
He's probably got his NBA Draft papers already filled out.
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I believe that by NCAA rules, there are only so many times a coach and/or his staff is allowed to see a recruit play in a given season/evaluation period.
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I believe that by NCAA rules, there are only so many times a coach and/or his staff is allowed to see a recruit play in a given season/evaluation period.
Not sure about that.
How could you monitor that?
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I believe that by NCAA rules, there are only so many times a coach and/or his staff is allowed to see a recruit play in a given season/evaluation period.
Not sure about that.
How could you monitor that?
That's easier to monitor than phone calls and pool parties at the coach's house.
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Marillac - when was Lavin recruiting McGarry, I had never heard we were remotely involved with him before.
Guys - the Brewster coach is one of the bigger dbags going, the guy is out for himself at all times. He is just a bad guy and only care about how the kids can help him, not how he can help the kids.
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Nice article on Sampson referenced in tweet. Big game against big competition.
“@UnionLeader: Brewster tips Tilton in star-studded, top-ranked prep school hoop affair: Brewster Academy head coach Jason Smit... http://t.co/Mh0ZUNv9 (http://t.co/Mh0ZUNv9)”
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Marillac - when was Lavin recruiting McGarry, I had never heard we were remotely involved with him before.
Guys - the Brewster coach is one of the bigger dbags going, the guy is out for himself at all times. He is just a bad guy and only care about how the kids can help him, not how he can help the kids.
Lav showed interest last year but McGarry wasn't interested...not because of a lack of Lavin's effort though. Lav recruits the NEPSAC hard from NY.
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McGarry was never a target
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McGarry was never a target
So Lavin. Ever asked about a top ten athletic big man that was roommates and good friends with one of his commitments? C'mon!!!! I guess Sampson's tweets about getting McGarry to Campis were jokes too?
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McGarry was never a target
So Lavin. Ever asked about a top ten athletic big man that was roommates and good friends with one of his commitments? C'mon!!!! I guess Sampson's tweets about getting McGarry to Campis were jokes too?
So in your eyes if a coach ever asks, "who's that?" he's a target?
One thing about Lav is he doesn't waste time. He knows who's realistic to land and goes after those guys. He's missed a few this year but still had legit shots at getting them all. If he doesn't think there is a shot then he doesn't go after them.
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McGarry was never a target
So Lavin. Ever asked about a top ten athletic big man that was roommates and good friends with one of his commitments? C'mon!!!! I guess Sampson's tweets about getting McGarry to Campis were jokes too?
So in your eyes if a coach ever asks, "who's that?" he's a target?
One thing about Lav is he doesn't waste time. He knows who's realistic to land and goes after those guys. He's missed a few this year but still had legit shots at getting them all. If he doesn't think there is a shot then he doesn't go after them.
I don't dispute that McGarry was never a prime target of Lavin's, but that was clearly the product of McGarry's lack of interest. Lavin doesn't waste time, like you noted. My point in response to the posed question of whether Smith's tweet was a jab to Lavin was to show that Lav expressed interest in three of Smith's guys, and nobody has recruited Sampson harder for two years. It would be very unlikely that Smith would be taking a jab at Lav.
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It should be noted that Lavin was recruiting Sampson, if my memory is correct, even before he went to Brewster. That may be the only reason his coach wasn't able to steer him away from us.
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It should be noted that Lavin was recruiting Sampson, if my memory is correct, even before he went to Brewster. That may be the only reason his coach wasn't able to steer him away from us.
There is no question the Ohio contingent in Sampson's corner loves STJ. The problem lies with the little brat up in Brewster
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
I for one, never have said steer away. I commented that I felt he would try to steer JS to take the place of T Robinson. And being that two had already gone to KU, they would be stiff competition. That being said, I maintain that SJ's is the best fit for him, and "his guys" are waiting for him too.
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
I'm not saying it is, but how do you know if that is true or not?
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Marillac - the stuff with Smith was not created here. Lavin was on Sampson when he was at St. Mary's and things changed when he landed at Brewster.
From what I have been told a lot of it has to do with Coach Smith thinking he was defintely going to have Jakkar for two years because a lot of people knew Jakkar had academic issues to deal with and that people didn't think he would get his grades in order for eligibilty. After Jakkar originally verballed to SJU, Coach Smith was not exactly pleased that Jakkar planned to leave Brewster after one year and made his unhappiness very clear to all involved.
The RISE debacle happened over the summer, Jakkar went back to Brewster and here we are....
**edited - I had schools confused and was thinking of Bridgton & SJU, not Brewster**
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Marillac you just make shit up. You have no idea (and neither do I but difference is I don't claim to). Dave proved you wrong in the other thread and you continue to post stuff like you are in the know when everyone who has been around here for awhile knows you have absolutely no first hand knowledge. I like you as a poster but stop pretending like you are some insider, scout, and all the other things you have pretended to be over the years. You're a great fan but that is it.
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KJD, I think you are wrong. Marillac might actually be a poor man's version of Forrest Gump. He's an expert on tax liens, he owned a horse farm, he hooked up with Taurasi, he is now in law school, he was an assistant bball coach for a juco or d2...and I believe that's just the tip of the iceberg. I'd be all for a Marillac mini autobiography post. If authored by Marillac OR we are sju. Actually, on second thought, only if authored by we are sju. It'd just be that much better.
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Kid - you forget expert on Orange County High School football, stock investing, baseball player development and his newest category - population studies and its effect on the average size of Americans
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
I'm not saying it is, but how do you know if that is true or not?
Smith has a loaded roster every year. How many of those kids does he steer to Kansas? Most never even consider Kansas. People try to interpret tweets to much and then start believing the analysis of other posters as fact.
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Don't change a thing Marillac. You are a top 3 poster on this site. You have a cartoon character quality about your persona.
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who are the other two..?
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Don't change a thing Marillac. You are a top 3 poster on this site. You have a cartoon character quality about your persona.
who are the other two..?
Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
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Don't change a thing Marillac. You are a top 3 poster on this site. You have a cartoon character quality about your persona.
who are the other two..?
Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
IllWill and Lapchick1, naturally....
In all seriousness, If nothing else Marillac is always an interesting read, whether he's talking out of his a$$ or not. It is definitely entertaining. Don't get all serious and grumpy about some stupid arbitrary number i threw up.
There are a lot of posters here that bring some real knowledge and info to the table. I was just trying to defend Marillac , not that he needs me to. Nice to have some positive folks still left.
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
I'm not saying it is, but how do you know if that is true or not?
Smith has a loaded roster every year. How many of those kids does he steer to Kansas? Most never even consider Kansas. People try to interpret tweets to much and then start believing the analysis of other posters as fact.
Marillac - JS jocks KU like no tomorrow. He even uses twitter to lobby good players to come to Brewster. It's not just my opinion that he walks a fine line with some comments.
Look what he wrote to Chris Walker - in many people's opinions, this is not appropriate:
Hey @cwalkertime23 (https://twitter.com/#!/cwalkertime23) why don't you do your senior year at #Brewster (https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Brewster) and commit to #Kansas (https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Kansas). Worked for @TRobinson0 (https://twitter.com/#!/TRobinson0)
https://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/166001174103855105 (https://twitter.com/#!/BrewsterHoops/status/166001174103855105)
I wonder what this guy is thinking...
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Ridiculously out of line.
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
I'm not saying it is, but how do you know if that is true or not?
Smith has a loaded roster every year. How many of those kids does he steer to Kansas? Most never even consider Kansas. People try to interpret tweets to much and then start believing the analysis of other posters as fact.
I don't believe anyone either way. I just wanted to know how you knew as a fact, that he wasn't steering Sampson away from St John's.
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I've heard from multiple people that he was giving Jakarr a hard time and making our recruitment more difficult. It was not from Twitter. Sure he's a KU shill there, but that's not the crux of it.
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Could Sampson be pissed about being sent to Rise?
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Could Sampson be pissed about being sent to Rise?
Not that. He loves Lavin. Rise was certainly a miscue that wasn't good for us but Jakarr was behind with classes to begin with. Even rise was a stretch but worth a try.
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
I'm not saying it is, but how do you know if that is true or not?
Smith has a loaded roster every year. How many of those kids does he steer to Kansas? Most never even consider Kansas. People try to interpret tweets to much and then start believing the analysis of other posters as fact.
Marillac - JS jocks KU like no tomorrow. He even uses twitter to lobby good players to come to Brewster. It's not just my opinion that he walks a fine line with some comments.
Look what he wrote to Chris Walker - in many people's opinions, this is not appropriate:
Hey @cwalkertime23 (https://twitter.com/#!/cwalkertime23) why don't you do your senior year at #Brewster (https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Brewster) and commit to #Kansas (https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Kansas). Worked for @TRobinson0 (https://twitter.com/#!/TRobinson0)
https://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/166001174103855105 (https://twitter.com/#!/BrewsterHoops/status/166001174103855105)
I wonder what this guy is thinking...
I thought it was a joke
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new tweets from our friend at Brewster regarding Jakarr
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First phone call post-game this evening was from #Providence head coach, Ed Cooley. He's recruiting @KarrSampson14 hard!
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#Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 will be on official visit to #KU this weekend for #Mizzou game. He will be... fb.me/150eTD7aK
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KJD, tell me how you really feel :) Thanks boo3 lol.
There were two tweets by Smith that I feel have created the thought he is pro-Kansas. The one above was the last. I don't like a lot of things about him like the way he recruits and the way he carries himself as a coach, but I think the KU thing is far off. Most of all I dont want to negative posts about the coach of our top recruit to be floating around.
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seems like we've gone cold the last couple of weeks when it comes to recruiting. is the buzz gone?
would love to get Dave or SJU79's perspective on what's going on. is there anything that we can look forward to soon?
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seems like we've gone cold the last couple of weeks when it comes to recruiting. is the buzz gone?
would love to get Dave or SJU79's perspective on what's going on. is there anything that we can look forward to soon?
Cold the last couple of weeks?
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Marillac - I had higher expectations for at least a funny response
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If Jakarr was at Bridgeton he would still be committed to St. John's. He went to Brewster and decommitted.
How do you think Kansas feels about JaKarr if they think they trail Providence in recruiting? What do you think they'd do?
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Quite a lot of talent at Sampson's last game for those with a twitter account. His jump shot seems to be getting better and better.
“@BrewsterHoops: #Brewster vs #Tilton highlights! Amazing crowd and support by #BobcatNation at Smith Center. 1500+ in attendance! http://t.co/PKvFeJ40 (http://t.co/PKvFeJ40)”
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Quite a lot of talent at Sampson's last game for those with a twitter account. His jump shot seems to be getting better and better.
“@BrewsterHoops: #Brewster vs #Tilton highlights! Amazing crowd and support by #BobcatNation at Smith Center. 1500+ in attendance! http://t.co/PKvFeJ40 (http://t.co/PKvFeJ40)”
I noticed that improvement as well when I saw them play STK this year compared to the few times I saw Karr last year.
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
It's a perfect fit but I cant say i'm optimistic that he will be back. I just dont like the vibes were getting but I trust our staff
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
It's a perfect fit but I cant say i'm optimistic that he will be back. I just dont like the vibes were getting but I trust our staff
One thing I will hang my hat on is that Coach has some of the best instincts on whether to keep pursuing a recruit or not. If Lavs and the staff are pushing this hard at this point, we're talking two years of pursuit.
Cooley has to push because he knows he cannot coach, so w/o the horses he's finished. Self - his staff's judgement isn't as good as SJ's. He was surprised Kaleb Tarczewski chose Zona. But I still say at the end of the day, JS is gonna push KU cuz of Thomas Robinson. In actuality, w/ Robinson gone next year and the light recruiting haul for Self, SJ's is positioned to have a better squad w/ JaKarr on board - yeah, I said it. Self is a great coach and will coach up what he has, but they're not close to top 15 next season. Get JaKarr and Obekpa, and I predict SJ's will be ranked higher than KU for 2013-2014.
SJ's is THE place for JaKarr to go - he needs to begin, and then finish, what he was about to start with his guys.
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
It's a perfect fit but I cant say i'm optimistic that he will be back. I just dont like the vibes were getting but I trust our staff
One thing I will hang my hat on is that Coach has some of the best instincts on whether to keep pursuing a recruit or not. If Lavs and the staff are pushing this hard at this point, we're talking two years of pursuit.
Cooley has to push because he knows he cannot coach, so w/o the horses he's finished. Self - his staff's judgement isn't as good as SJ's. He was surprised Kaleb Tarczewski chose Zona. But I still say at the end of the day, JS is gonna push KU cuz of Thomas Robinson. In actuality, w/ Robinson gone next year and the light recruiting haul for Self, SJ's is positioned to have a better squad w/ JaKarr on board - yeah, I said it. Self is a great coach and will coach up what he has, but they're not close to top 15 next season. Get JaKarr and Obekpa, and I predict SJ's will be ranked higher than KU for 2013-2014.
SJ's is THE place for JaKarr to go - he needs to begin, and then finish, what he was about to start with his guys.
That is the first time i ever heard anyone call Bill Self a " great coach"
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
It's a perfect fit but I cant say i'm optimistic that he will be back. I just dont like the vibes were getting but I trust our staff
One thing I will hang my hat on is that Coach has some of the best instincts on whether to keep pursuing a recruit or not. If Lavs and the staff are pushing this hard at this point, we're talking two years of pursuit.
Cooley has to push because he knows he cannot coach, so w/o the horses he's finished. Self - his staff's judgement isn't as good as SJ's. He was surprised Kaleb Tarczewski chose Zona. But I still say at the end of the day, JS is gonna push KU cuz of Thomas Robinson. In actuality, w/ Robinson gone next year and the light recruiting haul for Self, SJ's is positioned to have a better squad w/ JaKarr on board - yeah, I said it. Self is a great coach and will coach up what he has, but they're not close to top 15 next season. Get JaKarr and Obekpa, and I predict SJ's will be ranked higher than KU for 2013-2014.
SJ's is THE place for JaKarr to go - he needs to begin, and then finish, what he was about to start with his guys.
That is the first time i ever heard anyone call Bill Self a " great coach"
You dont think he is?
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
It's a perfect fit but I cant say i'm optimistic that he will be back. I just dont like the vibes were getting but I trust our staff
One thing I will hang my hat on is that Coach has some of the best instincts on whether to keep pursuing a recruit or not. If Lavs and the staff are pushing this hard at this point, we're talking two years of pursuit.
Cooley has to push because he knows he cannot coach, so w/o the horses he's finished. Self - his staff's judgement isn't as good as SJ's. He was surprised Kaleb Tarczewski chose Zona. But I still say at the end of the day, JS is gonna push KU cuz of Thomas Robinson. In actuality, w/ Robinson gone next year and the light recruiting haul for Self, SJ's is positioned to have a better squad w/ JaKarr on board - yeah, I said it. Self is a great coach and will coach up what he has, but they're not close to top 15 next season. Get JaKarr and Obekpa, and I predict SJ's will be ranked higher than KU for 2013-2014.
SJ's is THE place for JaKarr to go - he needs to begin, and then finish, what he was about to start with his guys.
That is the first time i ever heard anyone call Bill Self a " great coach"
You dont think he is?
It's hard to say he isn't a great coach, Success makes you a GREAT coach
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Great coach
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He gets great results because he is a world-class recruiter and closer, but a lot of people think he's a bit lacking in the X's and O's department. He might not have a championship if he didn't play another world-class recruiter who is even weaker in the coaching aspect of the game.
I think Self is a better tactician than both Barnes and Drew, though.
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You dont win a national championship without being a good coach
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From the Kansas Rivals.com site on his pending visit this weekend:
JaKarr Sampson, the 6-foot-8. 220-pound power forward from Brewster Academy in Wolfeboro, N.H., is no stranger to the recruiting process. A year ago, Sampson, a four-star prospect, was set to play for Steve Lavin at St. John's, but once he wasn't cleared academically by the NCAA, Sampson decided to return to Brewster Academy.
"Yea, I'm taking an official visit to Kansas this weekend," Sampson told Jayhawk Slant. "The visit is still on and I'm real excited about seeing what Kansas is all about. Really, I just want to see how crazy the fans are at Kansas. I've heard all about the fans and I can't wait to see what the atmosphere is like on Saturday.
"It's going to be a fun game," he added. "It (Kansas vs. Missouri) will be a big game to go to. I talked to the coaching staff yesterday (Tuesday), and they just wanted to make sure my flights and stuff was setup. The staff just wanted to make sure everything was good."
While his interest in Kansas is high, Sampson doesn't anticipate making a final decision regarding his future following his weekend visit. On Wednesday afternoon, he told Jayhawk Slant that visits to Providence and Florida will take place, but nothing has been scheduled at this time.
http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054 (http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054)
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
It's a perfect fit but I cant say i'm optimistic that he will be back. I just dont like the vibes were getting but I trust our staff
One thing I will hang my hat on is that Coach has some of the best instincts on whether to keep pursuing a recruit or not. If Lavs and the staff are pushing this hard at this point, we're talking two years of pursuit.
Cooley has to push because he knows he cannot coach, so w/o the horses he's finished. Self - his staff's judgement isn't as good as SJ's. He was surprised Kaleb Tarczewski chose Zona. But I still say at the end of the day, JS is gonna push KU cuz of Thomas Robinson. In actuality, w/ Robinson gone next year and the light recruiting haul for Self, SJ's is positioned to have a better squad w/ JaKarr on board - yeah, I said it. Self is a great coach and will coach up what he has, but they're not close to top 15 next season. Get JaKarr and Obekpa, and I predict SJ's will be ranked higher than KU for 2013-2014.
SJ's is THE place for JaKarr to go - he needs to begin, and then finish, what he was about to start with his guys.
That is the first time i ever heard anyone call Bill Self a " great coach"
You dont think he is?
I think he is a good coach and a very good recruiter. Didn't mean for my initial post to sound like I thought he was a terrible coach.. Great should be reserved for the best izzo, k. Etc.. Over the years Self has been knocked for his x's and o's more time then I can remember.
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From the Kansas Rivals.com site on his pending visit this weekend:
JaKarr Sampson, the 6-foot-8. 220-pound power forward from Brewster Academy in Wolfeboro, N.H., is no stranger to the recruiting process. A year ago, Sampson, a four-star prospect, was set to play for Steve Lavin at St. John's, but once he wasn't cleared academically by the NCAA, Sampson decided to return to Brewster Academy.
"Yea, I'm taking an official visit to Kansas this weekend," Sampson told Jayhawk Slant. "The visit is still on and I'm real excited about seeing what Kansas is all about. Really, I just want to see how crazy the fans are at Kansas. I've heard all about the fans and I can't wait to see what the atmosphere is like on Saturday.
"It's going to be a fun game," he added. "It (Kansas vs. Missouri) will be a big game to go to. I talked to the coaching staff yesterday (Tuesday), and they just wanted to make sure my flights and stuff was setup. The staff just wanted to make sure everything was good."
While his interest in Kansas is high, Sampson doesn't anticipate making a final decision regarding his future following his weekend visit. On Wednesday afternoon, he told Jayhawk Slant that visits to Providence and Florida will take place, but nothing has been scheduled at this time.
http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054 (http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054)
Lets hope he doesn't base his decision on fans of the program he wants to attend ... StJ would be in trouble.
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From the Kansas Rivals.com site on his pending visit this weekend:
JaKarr Sampson, the 6-foot-8. 220-pound power forward from Brewster Academy in Wolfeboro, N.H., is no stranger to the recruiting process. A year ago, Sampson, a four-star prospect, was set to play for Steve Lavin at St. John's, but once he wasn't cleared academically by the NCAA, Sampson decided to return to Brewster Academy.
"Yea, I'm taking an official visit to Kansas this weekend," Sampson told Jayhawk Slant. "The visit is still on and I'm real excited about seeing what Kansas is all about. Really, I just want to see how crazy the fans are at Kansas. I've heard all about the fans and I can't wait to see what the atmosphere is like on Saturday.
"It's going to be a fun game," he added. "It (Kansas vs. Missouri) will be a big game to go to. I talked to the coaching staff yesterday (Tuesday), and they just wanted to make sure my flights and stuff was setup. The staff just wanted to make sure everything was good."
While his interest in Kansas is high, Sampson doesn't anticipate making a final decision regarding his future following his weekend visit. On Wednesday afternoon, he told Jayhawk Slant that visits to Providence and Florida will take place, but nothing has been scheduled at this time.
http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054 (http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054)
Lets hope he doesn't base his decision on fans of the program he wants to attend ... StJ would be in trouble.
I normally don't take the negative side of these arguments, but I think our ship with Jakarr has already sailed. Metaphorically speaking, if SJU and Jakarr were in a relationship, Jakarr told us several months ago, "let's start seeing other people", and unfortunately, he has been. He has shown us very little love in his second tour of being recruited, while lavishing praise on the other schools competing for his attention. If he recommits with us at this point, I'll be shocked.
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
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From the Kansas Rivals.com site on his pending visit this weekend:
JaKarr Sampson, the 6-foot-8. 220-pound power forward from Brewster Academy in Wolfeboro, N.H., is no stranger to the recruiting process. A year ago, Sampson, a four-star prospect, was set to play for Steve Lavin at St. John's, but once he wasn't cleared academically by the NCAA, Sampson decided to return to Brewster Academy.
"Yea, I'm taking an official visit to Kansas this weekend," Sampson told Jayhawk Slant. "The visit is still on and I'm real excited about seeing what Kansas is all about. Really, I just want to see how crazy the fans are at Kansas. I've heard all about the fans and I can't wait to see what the atmosphere is like on Saturday.
"It's going to be a fun game," he added. "It (Kansas vs. Missouri) will be a big game to go to. I talked to the coaching staff yesterday (Tuesday), and they just wanted to make sure my flights and stuff was setup. The staff just wanted to make sure everything was good."
While his interest in Kansas is high, Sampson doesn't anticipate making a final decision regarding his future following his weekend visit. On Wednesday afternoon, he told Jayhawk Slant that visits to Providence and Florida will take place, but nothing has been scheduled at this time.
http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054 (http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1335054)
Lets hope he doesn't base his decision on fans of the program he wants to attend ... StJ would be in trouble.
I normally don't take the negative side of these arguments, but I think our ship with Jakarr has already sailed. Metaphorically speaking, if SJU and Jakarr were in a relationship, Jakarr told us several months ago, "let's start seeing other people", and unfortunately, he has been. He has shown us very little love in his second tour of being recruited, while lavishing praise on the other schools competing for his attention. If he recommits with us at this point, I'll be shocked.
You're taking this a bit further than is the case. There is no metaphorical relationship here. He has an issue with his coach where he has to see other people. I think he might still end up here. It's not quite as simplistic as many here are making it.
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If he goes to KU and their rich tradition, how can you argue with his decision.
But if he chooses Providence, Rhode Island and an arena called the Dunkin Donuts Center over the bright lights of NYC, MSG and St. John's than he is crazy.
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
Jakarr didn't use any official visits last year. So why not use all 5 now. He knows STJ campus. He was there enough.
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We really need Jakarr here. I really hope we land him. He's a perfect fit at PF next to Moe. Amazing athlete with fantastic upside. We could play "small" at times with Jakarr, Harkless and Garrett up front and we'd be really tough to handle. He's perfect for Lavin's system and I think we'll land him when all is said and done. Lavin has recruited him forever and never given up on him. Hope Jason Smith doesn't monkeywrench this thing. Jakarr will improve sooo much under our staff and IMO will be another pro.
He needs to realize the success Lavin has had with players similar to him such as Ariza, Matt Barnes & now Harkless. We'll also be a top big east team with him and a little help/development. The 2 best freshman in the Big East are on this team. Not saying Kansas or the others cant do the same, because some can, but with hard work he can reach his goal. The first decision you make is usually the right one, meaning STJ should be his home. He was 100% on board last year, why change your mind now? Bottom line we need him
Not only that, but Harkless and Harrison are two of the best freshmen in the country. It's a testament to the talent that Lavin as put together as well as an example of what good players can do here. Jakarr has carte Blanche on the PF spot. I'd be surprised if he didn't choose SJU. If he doesn't, there's something else going on.
It's a perfect fit but I cant say i'm optimistic that he will be back. I just dont like the vibes were getting but I trust our staff
One thing I will hang my hat on is that Coach has some of the best instincts on whether to keep pursuing a recruit or not. If Lavs and the staff are pushing this hard at this point, we're talking two years of pursuit.
Cooley has to push because he knows he cannot coach, so w/o the horses he's finished. Self - his staff's judgement isn't as good as SJ's. He was surprised Kaleb Tarczewski chose Zona. But I still say at the end of the day, JS is gonna push KU cuz of Thomas Robinson. In actuality, w/ Robinson gone next year and the light recruiting haul for Self, SJ's is positioned to have a better squad w/ JaKarr on board - yeah, I said it. Self is a great coach and will coach up what he has, but they're not close to top 15 next season. Get JaKarr and Obekpa, and I predict SJ's will be ranked higher than KU for 2013-2014.
SJ's is THE place for JaKarr to go - he needs to begin, and then finish, what he was about to start with his guys.
That is the first time i ever heard anyone call Bill Self a " great coach"
You dont think he is?
I think he is a good coach and a very good recruiter. Didn't mean for my initial post to sound like I thought he was a terrible coach.. Great should be reserved for the best izzo, k. Etc.. Over the years Self has been knocked for his x's and o's more time then I can remember.
He is a great developed of talent. Especially of big men. Robinson and the big white guy this year are prime examples, as are the Morris twins. Nobody thought they would be that good.
Hes a great recruiter as well. Id have him in my top five coaches of the game today.
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
Jakarr didn't use any official visits last year. So why not use all 5 now. He knows STJ campus. He was there enough.
I want to be on the side of the angels for this thread, but Jakarr obviously didn't use all 5 of his visits last year because he knew what he wanted...US. Now, I get the impression that he's put us in the rearview mirror and feels the need to explore other options. Again, I want to be wrong and I get the issue with his coach pushing him away from us, but I can't remember seeing a quote from Jakarr in the last few months where he spoke highly of SJU (or even mentioned us at all). If he comes, it will be AWESOME and I will worship at the alter of Lavin more fervently than ever, but I'm just not feeling this one.
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
Jakarr didn't use any official visits last year. So why not use all 5 now. He knows STJ campus. He was there enough.
I want to be on the side of the angels for this thread, but Jakarr obviously didn't use all 5 of his visits last year because he knew what he wanted...US. Now, I get the impression that he's put us in the rearview mirror and feels the need to explore other options. Again, I want to be wrong and I get the issue with his coach pushing him away from us, but I can't remember seeing a quote from Jakarr in the last few months where he spoke highly of SJU (or even mentioned us at all). If he comes, it will be AWESOME and I will worship at the alter of Lavin more fervently than ever, but I'm just not feeling this one.
Yup, much like the recruitment of Kyle Anderson, at one point I was confident he had his sights on us. Now, the lack of news regarding our recruiting of him and him visiting other schools is very telling. I too would like to be wrong, but my gut tells me he wants Kansas.
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
Jakarr didn't use any official visits last year. So why not use all 5 now. He knows STJ campus. He was there enough.
I want to be on the side of the angels for this thread, but Jakarr obviously didn't use all 5 of his visits last year because he knew what he wanted...US. Now, I get the impression that he's put us in the rearview mirror and feels the need to explore other options. Again, I want to be wrong and I get the issue with his coach pushing him away from us, but I can't remember seeing a quote from Jakarr in the last few months where he spoke highly of SJU (or even mentioned us at all). If he comes, it will be AWESOME and I will worship at the alter of Lavin more fervently than ever, but I'm just not feeling this one.
Use the visits or lose them. 5 free trips. Kyle visited Florida last and everyone was all worried remember?
Also you haven't heard quotes because there is a little brat calling his shots when it comes to quotes. Brewster's season can't end soon enough IMO.
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Guarded prognosis on Sampson, but still wonder why Lavin has been very public and confident about a solid class. Is he factoring in a surprise transfer who has completed academic requirements for immediate eligibility or a European? Just thinking!
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
Respect your opinion Moose, what is your sense of him coming?
Jakarr didn't use any official visits last year. So why not use all 5 now. He knows STJ campus. He was there enough.
I want to be on the side of the angels for this thread, but Jakarr obviously didn't use all 5 of his visits last year because he knew what he wanted...US. Now, I get the impression that he's put us in the rearview mirror and feels the need to explore other options. Again, I want to be wrong and I get the issue with his coach pushing him away from us, but I can't remember seeing a quote from Jakarr in the last few months where he spoke highly of SJU (or even mentioned us at all). If he comes, it will be AWESOME and I will worship at the alter of Lavin more fervently than ever, but I'm just not feeling this one.
Use the visits or lose them. 5 free trips. Kyle visited Florida last and everyone was all worried remember?
Also you haven't heard quotes because there is a little brat calling his shots when it comes to quotes. Brewster's season can't end soon enough IMO.
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Guarded prognosis on Sampson, but still wonder why Lavin has been very public and confident about a solid class. Is he factoring in a surprise transfer who has completed academic requirements for immediate eligibility or a European? Just thinking!
If he has a trick up his sleeve I'd hedge to bet its a decommitt.
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Respect your opinion Moose. You see us firmly in the Sampson recruitment?
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Respect your opinion Moose. You see us firmly in the Sampson recruitment?
Yes we are.
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Respect your opinion Moose. You see us firmly in the Sampson recruitment?
Yes we are.
Thanks, feeling fairly confident as well
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Respect your opinion Moose. You see us firmly in the Sampson recruitment?
Yes we are.
Alright Moose. If you say so, I too will say the glass is half full for Sampson. You're clearly more in tune with the process than me.
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Respect your opinion Moose. You see us firmly in the Sampson recruitment?
Yes we are.
Alright Moose. If you say so, I too will say the glass is half full for Sampson. You're clearly more in tune with the process than me.
We were in it with Kyle until the last week or so too. We were with Ricardo too but that took a very quick turn. Things happen. These are 18 yr old kids. Many with handlers and too many people in their ear. But right now there is a great deal of confidence with Jakarr. This staff has been right more than its been wrong in those 'confident, feeling good' situations. Still have to give them benefit of the doubt.
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
I may be wrong but I think Jakarr was at St. Johns for a week or so while he was waiting for the NCAA to clear him. It's not the no visits set up to St. John's that worry me but its him visiting all these other schools that do
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And why not an official visit here to reconnect with the other players he was recruited with last year, doesn't sound good to me.
I may be wrong but I think Jakarr was at St. Johns for a week or so while he was waiting for the NCAA to clear him. It's not the no visits set up to St. John's that worry me but its him visiting all these other schools that do
Even longer I think.
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I'm usually a pretty positive poster, but I think this ship has sailed. I give it 20%, max. He would be here already if he truly wanted to. Honestly, who cares what your coach wants? Screw that guy.
Of course i have no real info.
I hope that i am wrong and will gladly post an "i'm an idiot" post if proven wrong.
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I'm usually a pretty positive poster, but I think this ship has sailed. I give it 20%, max. He would be here already if he truly wanted to. Honestly, who cares what your coach wants? Screw that guy.
Of course i have no real info.
I hope that i am wrong and will gladly post an "i'm an idiot" post if proven wrong.
Because your coach can sit you. And Brewster has TONS of talent so it wouldn't have serious damage. Also I think someone mentioned he's a dean at the school or something.
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I'm usually a pretty positive poster, but I think this ship has sailed. I give it 20%, max. He would be here already if he truly wanted to. Honestly, who cares what your coach wants? Screw that guy.
Of course i have no real info.
I hope that i am wrong and will gladly post an "i'm an idiot" post if proven wrong.
Because your coach can sit you. And Brewster has TONS of talent so it wouldn't have serious damage. Also I think someone mentioned he's a dean at the school or something.
Let me try and understand this.
Sampson has a great season last year at a school that is not Brewster. He is highly ranked and commits to Lavin and St. John's.
Sampson does not qualify and then the Rise fiasco.
Sampson goes to Brewster and plays for this clown.
Sampson willingly plays for a coach who theoretically threatens his playing time and makes him open up his recruitment and drop St. Johns and Lavin. If he doesn't, he will sit and coach dope will bad mouth him?
What does Coach Dope have against St. John's and what does he get in return for a Kansas commit? I'm sure this has been covered so i apologize for the repetition.
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I'm usually a pretty positive poster, but I think this ship has sailed. I give it 20%, max. He would be here already if he truly wanted to. Honestly, who cares what your coach wants? Screw that guy.
Of course i have no real info.
I hope that i am wrong and will gladly post an "i'm an idiot" post if proven wrong.
Because your coach can sit you. And Brewster has TONS of talent so it wouldn't have serious damage. Also I think someone mentioned he's a dean at the school or something.
Let me try and understand this.
Sampson has a great season last year at a school that is not Brewster. He is highly ranked and commits to Lavin and St. John's.
Sampson does not qualify and then the Rise fiasco.
Sampson goes to Brewster and plays for this clown.
Sampson willingly plays for a coach who theoretically threatens his playing time and makes him open up his recruitment and drop St. Johns and Lavin. If he doesn't, he will sit and coach dope will bad mouth him?
What does Coach Dope have against St. John's and what does he get in return for a Kansas commit? I'm sure this has been covered so i apologize for the repetition.
To clarify I did not state that the brat threatened his playing time. Just thinking out loud based on what others have said and I've heard about him expecting 2 yrs of Jakarr and only getting 1 at first. Jakarr played at Brewster last year too remember. Just know the other ppl in his life are very very high on Lavin and STJ.
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I'm usually a pretty positive poster, but I think this ship has sailed. I give it 20%, max. He would be here already if he truly wanted to. Honestly, who cares what your coach wants? Screw that guy.
Of course i have no real info.
I hope that i am wrong and will gladly post an "i'm an idiot" post if proven wrong.
Because your coach can sit you. And Brewster has TONS of talent so it wouldn't have serious damage. Also I think someone mentioned he's a dean at the school or something.
Let me try and understand this.
Sampson has a great season last year at a school that is not Brewster. He is highly ranked and commits to Lavin and St. John's.
Sampson does not qualify and then the Rise fiasco.
Sampson goes to Brewster and plays for this clown.
Sampson willingly plays for a coach who theoretically threatens his playing time and makes him open up his recruitment and drop St. Johns and Lavin. If he doesn't, he will sit and coach dope will bad mouth him?
What does Coach Dope have against St. John's and what does he get in return for a Kansas commit? I'm sure this has been covered so i apologize for the repetition.
To clarify I did not state that the brat threatened his playing time. Just thinking out loud based on what others have said and I've heard about him expecting 2 yrs of Jakarr and only getting 1 at first. Jakarr played at Brewster last year too remember. Just know the other ppl in his life are very very high on Lavin and STJ.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. He did play for this clown last year. We need some good news from this kid. Hope he does the right thing.
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I'm usually a pretty positive poster, but I think this ship has sailed. I give it 20%, max. He would be here already if he truly wanted to. Honestly, who cares what your coach wants? Screw that guy.
Of course i have no real info.
I hope that i am wrong and will gladly post an "i'm an idiot" post if proven wrong.
Because your coach can sit you. And Brewster has TONS of talent so it wouldn't have serious damage. Also I think someone mentioned he's a dean at the school or something.
Let me try and understand this.
Sampson has a great season last year at a school that is not Brewster. He is highly ranked and commits to Lavin and St. John's.
Sampson does not qualify and then the Rise fiasco.
Sampson goes to Brewster and plays for this clown.
Sampson willingly plays for a coach who theoretically threatens his playing time and makes him open up his recruitment and drop St. Johns and Lavin. If he doesn't, he will sit and coach dope will bad mouth him?
What does Coach Dope have against St. John's and what does he get in return for a Kansas commit? I'm sure this has been covered so i apologize for the repetition.
To clarify I did not state that the brat threatened his playing time. Just thinking out loud based on what others have said and I've heard about him expecting 2 yrs of Jakarr and only getting 1 at first. Jakarr played at Brewster last year too remember. Just know the other ppl in his life are very very high on Lavin and STJ.
Hopefully those other people stay in his ear and not Brewster
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I'm usually a pretty positive poster, but I think this ship has sailed. I give it 20%, max. He would be here already if he truly wanted to. Honestly, who cares what your coach wants? Screw that guy.
Of course i have no real info.
I hope that i am wrong and will gladly post an "i'm an idiot" post if proven wrong.
Because your coach can sit you. And Brewster has TONS of talent so it wouldn't have serious damage. Also I think someone mentioned he's a dean at the school or something.
Here's smith's bio. He's associate dean of admissions. He holds a lot more power there than just bball coach.
http://www.brewsteracademy.org/RelId/620788/ISvars/default/Jason_Smith_-_Associate_Director_of_Admission%252c_Head_Boy's_Varsity_Basketball_Coach.htm (http://www.brewsteracademy.org/RelId/620788/ISvars/default/Jason_Smith_-_Associate_Director_of_Admission%252c_Head_Boy's_Varsity_Basketball_Coach.htm)
The purpose here is not to bad mouth Jason Smith. People should just realize that there are sub-plots that sometimes the fans of teams aren't aware of. It's not always about a kid losing their love for a school. I rely believe hwy Jakarr still wants to come here.
Bottom line is that coming to SJU would be fantastic for Jakarr's basketball career. one only has to look at Moe Harkless and D'Lo to see how much quality coaching and publicity our guys can get. We have two of the most high profile and best freshmen in the nation and neither was sniffed as a McD's AA. Lavin has never given up on Jakarr. Theres nothing that Kansas can offer him that we can't except for a season or two with his ass on the pine. We will have the pieces to win big too with some of these kids potentially committing. Even more than that, he has friends at SJU and has a long relationship with these coaches. Like I said, if we don't land Jakarr, then something is wrong, and it's not with Lavin. SJU's PF spot was built for Jakarr. Lavin has saved his seat for an entire season. Jakarr must realize it.
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According to Jerry Meyer on rivals:
St. John's is still an option for Sampson, a 6-foot-8 combo forward attending Wolfeboro (N.H.) Brewster Academy. I wouldn't, however, consider St. John's as the leader for Sampson.
Right now the team with the strongest momentum in recruiting Sampson is Kansas. The Jayhawks pursued Sampson before he committed to St. John's a year ago, and have vigorously pursued him since he went to prep school and reopened his recruitment.
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According to Jerry Meyer on rivals:
St. John's is still an option for Sampson, a 6-foot-8 combo forward attending Wolfeboro (N.H.) Brewster Academy. I wouldn't, however, consider St. John's as the leader for Sampson.
Right now the team with the strongest momentum in recruiting Sampson is Kansas. The Jayhawks pursued Sampson before he committed to St. John's a year ago, and have vigorously pursued him since he went to prep school and reopened his recruitment.
Jason Smith wants Jakarr to go to Kansas. Enuff said.
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I'm really looking forward to taking it to baylor next year and providence if he ends up there. Trust me, jakarr and ricardo are going to wish they stuck with us. Ricardo can join the fine line of great baylor players who go onto the nba. And same with jakarr wherever he winds up.
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I'm really looking forward to taking it to baylor next year and providence if he ends up there. Trust me, jakarr and ricardo are going to wish they stuck with us. Ricardo can join the fine line of great baylor players who go onto the nba. And same with jakarr wherever he winds up.
Baylor could be insane with a front court of Ike, Rico, and Q. They also have the juco junior Pierre Jackson, and second leading scorer coming back. We'll bea Providence by 20+ again, though.
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I'm really looking forward to taking it to baylor next year and providence if he ends up there. Trust me, jakarr and ricardo are going to wish they stuck with us. Ricardo can join the fine line of great baylor players who go onto the nba. And same with jakarr wherever he winds up.
Baylor could be insane with a front court of Ike, Rico, and Q. They also have the juco junior Pierre Jackson, and second leading scorer coming back. We'll bea Providence by 20+ again, though.
As long as they blow everyone out, they'll be fine. As soon as they get involved in a nip and tuck battle during the tournament, Drew will coach them to a loss.
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If he goes to KU and their rich tradition, how can you argue with his decision.
But if he chooses Providence, Rhode Island and an arena called the Dunkin Donuts Center over the bright lights of NYC, MSG and St. John's than he is crazy.
He committed once. There is no reason why should he should commit somewhere else.
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I was wrong on Kyle so please take this for what its worth but as of last night I heard Jakarr had eliminated SJU. Chiles also knows this and feels if he can get some of the kids onthe tea, to pressure him back they might get back in it but as of last night he is no longer considering SJU
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I was wrong on Kyle so please take this for what its worth but as of last night I heard Jakarr had eliminated SJU. Chiles also knows this and feels if he can get some of the kids onthe tea, to pressure him back they might get back in it but as of last night he is no longer considering SJU
Great. Not surprising at all. Thanks for the info.
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I have no inside info at all-but what's happening with these de-commits and misses on recruiting-anyone with inside information care to offer an opinion?
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We are getting owned on the recruiting circuit. And that's all our head coach/GM has been doing
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I was wrong on Kyle so please take this for what its worth but as of last night I heard Jakarr had eliminated SJU. Chiles also knows this and feels if he can get some of the kids onthe tea, to pressure him back they might get back in it but as of last night he is no longer considering SJU
Not good. Any good news for us SJU fans?
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I was wrong on Kyle so please take this for what its worth but as of last night I heard Jakarr had eliminated SJU. Chiles also knows this and feels if he can get some of the kids onthe tea, to pressure him back they might get back in it but as of last night he is no longer considering SJU
Not good. Any good news for us SJU fans?
I was wrong on Kyle so please take this for what its worth but as of last night I heard Jakarr had eliminated SJU. Chiles also knows this and feels if he can get some of the kids onthe tea, to pressure him back they might get back in it but as of last night he is no longer considering SJU
Not good. Any good news for us SJU fans?
Baldi makes a fair point, considering Coach Lavin has not only spent great time, but has asserted our class will be a solid one. IMO, he must deliver or lose some credibility. Hope he delivers.
Badi, congrats on IONA win, nice team!
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that's tough to hear that we are out of the picture
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Good News.....heard from a TOP AAU guy that Lavin is still selling, still hustling, still working and still convincing kids he;s ok and at SJU for the long run. He's also in with a few good players not yet mentioned here and some that have been. I can also tell you Chiles is the type that does not accept no.
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Good News.....heard from a TOP AAU guy that Lavin is still selling, still hustling, still working and still convincing kids he;s ok and at SJU for the long run. He's also in with a few good players not yet mentioned here and some that have been. I can also tell you Chiles is the type that does not accept no.
Good players for 2012? I know we're in great with a lot of 13',14' kids. We desperately need kids for next season though.
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If we don't get someone to help out Moe down low, he's going to bolt.
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Good News.....heard from a TOP AAU guy that Lavin is still selling, still hustling, still working and still convincing kids he;s ok and at SJU for the long run. He's also in with a few good players not yet mentioned here and some that have been. I can also tell you Chiles is the type that does not accept no.
That's all fine and dandy, but we need bodies
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This stuff is officially 'crazy'
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Can we please move on from jakarr, the kid did'nt get it done when he had a chance and is now playing the game. I'll take guys like Amir who worked his a@& off to get here, when he had a couple of million reasons to move on. We have two of the best returning sophs next year lets get some guys that want to be part of the program.
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Why not let him go then, i'd rather have young men who are committed to being at sju!
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Jakarr was not coming here the day he de-committed and opened up his recruitment again.
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Can we please move on from jakarr, the kid did'nt get it done when he had a chance and is now playing the game. I'll take guys like Amir who worked his a@& off to get here, when he had a couple of million reasons to move on. We have two of the best returning sophs next year lets get some guys that want to be part of the program.
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Can't say move on until he officially eliminates us .
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2013 and 2014 kids? norm roberts redux
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So lets keep wasting time and resources on a kid who does'nt want to be here.
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We MUST get Chris Obekpa. SJU 79, you have any info on him?
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When Gathers signed with Baylor, all the fans said we needed Shepard. When Shepard signed with SDSU, all the fans said we needed to sign Sampson again. When Sampson supposedly rules us out of the running, all the fans said we needed to sign Obekpa.
And if we fail to sign him, who are we going to need to sign next? Listen, I'm holding out hope that there is a grand scheme on the recruiting front, but as of right now it seems the 2012 class is a huge failure. Signing two or three under the radar JUCO's is kind of unacceptable when your sole responsibility has been recruiting.
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When Gathers signed with Baylor, all the fans said we needed Shepard. When Shepard signed with SDSU, all the fans said we needed to sign Sampson again. When Sampson supposedly rules us out of the running, all the fans said we needed to sign Obekpa.
And if we fail to sign him, who are we going to need to sign next? Listen, I'm holding out hope that there is a grand scheme on the recruiting front, but as of right now it seems the 2012 class is a huge failure. Signing two or three under the radar JUCO's is kind of unacceptable when your sole responsibility has been recruiting.
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I felt the same way, when JS decommitted from us, that he was probably going elsewhere. I also though there was an air of the KA site reoccurring within the JS site with the only "outside" news coming from and about other schools. This is never good news.
All the talk about him knowing and liking Coach, his staff, and the players, apparently does not really mean much.
We just beat a very powerful NCAA and Big East school with six guys, all new the the BE. JS, think about that!
PC as a choice, get real!
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I felt the same way, when JS decommitted from us, that he was probably going elsewhere. I also though there was an air of the KA site reoccurring within the JS site with the only "outside" news coming from and about other schools. This is never good news.
All the talk about him knowing and liking Coach, his staff, and the players, apparently does not really mean much.
We just beat a very powerful NCAA and Big East school with six guys, all new the the BE. JS, think about that!
PC as a choice, get real!
If he goes to Kansas and wants to ride the bench for two years before play, I think I can deal with that. But him going to PC would just be a complete shock.
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The team is going to be fine with or without Sampson. Besides all the issues this year, I feel like the program has a leader who will bring sju back to the top. Sampson can come if he wants to!
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He just needs to look at his boy Nadir Tharpe riding pine at Kansas. Kansas is a real good choice but he would have to deal with that possibility. PC has no advantages over STJ. Not sure whats going on with him but it is what it is.
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:'(fine loose yet another recruit
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It's not the end of the world, the program is in good hands in the long run with Lavin at the helm.
But crappy news like this just gets tiring after awhile. How many moments have we had like this this season?? Too many.
We've got a solid core, and they'll be very competitive next year, but in my opinion it's going to be another "what if" season. We'll be competitive in conference, maybe get an NCAA birth. But these recruiting losses add up. Sampson and Gathers talent isn't the same as JUCO talent or guys outside the top 100.
There are exceptions. But all these recruiting losses are going to cost us at some point.
Hope this news isn't true. Has anybody heard anything to suggest we might still be alive?
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:'(fine loose yet another recruit
It's more effective to spell correctly when trolling. FYI.
You are some nice person.
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there is no news no one is even saying he's going elsewhere yet but if he did we are really running out of recruits
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Jakarr picked a nice weekend to visit Kansas. What a crowd/scene at this game.
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Signing day is 2 months away. Let the situation run its course. Things are always changing. If he verbals somewhere then consider us out.
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
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he wont leave kansas without verbaling imo
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
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How many questionable calls in KU's favor though late?
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:'(fine loose yet another recruit
It's more effective to spell correctly when trolling. FYI.
You are some nice person.
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When Gathers signed with Baylor, all the fans said we needed Shepard. When Shepard signed with SDSU, all the fans said we needed to sign Sampson again. When Sampson supposedly rules us out of the running, all the fans said we needed to sign Obekpa.
And if we fail to sign him, who are we going to need to sign next? Listen, I'm holding out hope that there is a grand scheme on the recruiting front, but as of right now it seems the 2012 class is a huge failure. Signing two or three under the radar JUCO's is kind of unacceptable when your sole responsibility has been recruiting.
Not really. We have two stars and 1 emerging star returning next year. With that and an improving Greene and Pointer, we could do very well with a role playing, shot blocking moose or two, and another shooter. Is that the ideal ? No but we could make the dance, get coach back showing his health is not an issue, and really bring in a killer class for 2013. I don't know about you but after suffering through 6 years of Norm, I'm not worried.
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When Gathers signed with Baylor, all the fans said we needed Shepard. When Shepard signed with SDSU, all the fans said we needed to sign Sampson again. When Sampson supposedly rules us out of the running, all the fans said we needed to sign Obekpa.
And if we fail to sign him, who are we going to need to sign next? Listen, I'm holding out hope that there is a grand scheme on the recruiting front, but as of right now it seems the 2012 class is a huge failure. Signing two or three under the radar JUCO's is kind of unacceptable when your sole responsibility has been recruiting.
Not really. We have two stars and 1 emerging star returning next year. With that and an improving Greene and Pointer, we could do very well with a role playing, shot blocking moose or two, and another shooter. Is that the ideal ? No but we could make the show, get coach back showing his health is not an issue, and really bring in a killer class for 2013. I don't know about you but after suffering through 6 years of Norm, I'm not worried.
Nice post Derk. We need depth at this point. We don't need 4-5 top 75 recruits. We have our horses, lets build around them.
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When Gathers signed with Baylor, all the fans said we needed Shepard. When Shepard signed with SDSU, all the fans said we needed to sign Sampson again. When Sampson supposedly rules us out of the running, all the fans said we needed to sign Obekpa.
And if we fail to sign him, who are we going to need to sign next? Listen, I'm holding out hope that there is a grand scheme on the recruiting front, but as of right now it seems the 2012 class is a huge failure. Signing two or three under the radar JUCO's is kind of unacceptable when your sole responsibility has been recruiting.
Not really. We have two stars and 1 emerging star returning next year. With that and an improving Greene and Pointer, we could do very well with a role playing, shot blocking moose or two, and another shooter. Is that the ideal ? No but we could make the show, get coach back showing his health is not an issue, and really bring in a killer class for 2013. I don't know about you but after suffering through 6 years of Norm, I'm not worried.
Nice post Derk. We need depth at this point. We don't need 4-5 top 75 recruits. We have our horses, lets build around them.
And I forgot Branch. I'd be fine if it worked out that way.
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Ron Roberts looks great right now, he's owning Temple. He might be the 6th man of the year. But we don't have a spot for me, another great decision by the staff
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Ron Roberts looks great right now, he's owning Temple. He might be the 6th man of the year. But we don't have a spot for me, another great decision by the staff
who? water under the bridge.
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Ron Roberts looks great right now, he's owning Temple. He might be the 6th man of the year. But we don't have a spot for me, another great decision by the staff
You're starting to sound like Bobre. Will you be saying this same thing five years from now?
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It is nearly impossible to successfully drive forward while looking exclusively in the rear-view mirror.
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How does Kansas have room too give away scholarships with three signed and two verbals?
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When the staff gets some players,all this goes away
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He is going to be riding the pine at Kansas. All the other schools seem like better fits for Sampson
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Some conflicting reports tonight that we're still looking real strong with Jakarr. Let's just wait this out and see what happens before wire Jakarr off. I think we might be jumping the gun just because we're used to disappointment. Maybe Jakarr will come through for us SJU fans. He'd be making a fantastic decision for himself as well.
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It's amazing how spoiled some of our fan base has become in a short period of time. Just because Lavin got commits from every name we came across last year doesn't mean it happens every year. Let's wait until April before we have hissy fits
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One minute you got Jakarr the next you don't then you do! Spend to much time thinking about this type of situation. I hope this young man does well for himself and hope sju is the place! If not coach Lavin will bring young men who will learn and improve as humans and ballers!
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One minute you got Jakarr the next you don't then you do! Spend to much time thinking about this type of situation. I hope this young man does well for himself and hope sju is the place! If not coach Lavin will bring young men who will learn and improve as humans and ballers!
We have two of the biggest impact freshmen on the nation on one team. If hs prospects aren't drooling over that, then I don't know what does it for them. Arguably both D'Lo and Harkless could share Big East ROY and both IMO are first or second team freshman All Americans. Prospects need to realize that this doesn't happen often, and is not a coincidence considering neither was in considerations for McD's AA status.
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Question: do we not get an official from JS this time around? Would be nice to have him come out for the BE Tourney.
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Question: do we not get an official from JS this time around? Would be nice to have him come out for the BE Tourney.
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Gut still tells me Jakarr ends up at SJU. Seems like a good kid. SJU and Lavin never wronged him. Hope it's the case. Seems like a kid that would love playing with "the fam"
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Good points Macus. Back to back Saturday nationally televised wins can't hurt either. Vitale crowing about our future as well. As anxious as I have been recently about 2012 recruiting, I am now reaffirming my faith in Coach Lavin. Otherwise, I am going to shorten my life. :)
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We have two of the biggest impact freshmen on the nation on one team. If hs prospects aren't drooling over that, then I don't know what does it for them. Arguably both D'Lo and Harkless could share Big East ROY and both IMO are first or second team freshman All Americans. Prospects need to realize that this doesn't happen often, and is not a coincidence considering neither was in considerations for McD's AA status.
Agree with what you say about the freshman but that could scare off someone who does not have the self confidence of a D'Angelo. We need good players coming in but we need lads who have the confidence that they can play with the fresh five. Could we be losing out on those who want to take the easy way rather than compete with the fresh five for minutes and notoriety?
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We have two of the biggest impact freshmen on the nation on one team. If hs prospects aren't drooling over that, then I don't know what does it for them. Arguably both D'Lo and Harkless could share Big East ROY and both IMO are first or second team freshman All Americans. Prospects need to realize that this doesn't happen often, and is not a coincidence considering neither was in considerations for McD's AA status.
Agree with what you say about the freshman but that could scare off someone who does not have the self confidence of a D'Angelo. We need good players coming in but we need lads who have the confidence that they can play with the fresh five. Could we be losing out on those who want to take the easy way rather than compete with the fresh five for minutes and notoriety?
I'll take one D'Angelo over 4 primadonna's any day. D'Angelo doesn't destroy teams because of freakish athleticism. He works harder than anybody on the court and his sheer will coupled with some talent turns him into a monster out there. Love D'Angelo. I want competitors like D'Lo, Garrett, Pointer etc...
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Question: do we not get an official from JS this time around? Would be nice to have him come out for the BE Tourney.
I doubt he could visit during the BET. It's not an SJU home game.
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Is it too much to ask our fans not to act like psychotic Kentucky fans?
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One minute you got Jakarr the next you don't then you do! Spend to much time thinking about this type of situation. I hope this young man does well for himself and hope sju is the place! If not coach Lavin will bring young men who will learn and improve as humans and ballers!
I totally agree with this.
BUT I'm a glass half empty person and I think Jakarr has sailed. So be it. He'd be perfect in Lavins system and with the minutes he'd get he'd probably only be here 2 years like Moe.
So be it. Amir will develop to a killer like Harrison and we will get a couple of decent 2012 guys and make a tourney run and will kill it after that
We have two of the biggest impact freshmen on the nation on one team. If hs prospects aren't drooling over that, then I don't know what does it for them. Arguably both D'Lo and Harkless could share Big East ROY and both IMO are first or second team freshman All Americans. Prospects need to realize that this doesn't happen often, and is not a coincidence considering neither was in considerations for McD's AA status.
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
To any kid dumb enough to choose Kansas for ANYTHING over NY should get what they deserve.
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I am really not sure why Brewster shows us no love, if what I heard is correct we helped Jakarr get to Brewster. I just think Smith is not getting what he wants from us one way or the other. I do feel however when all is said and done and Jakarr visits his schools, he will come back into the fold for us.
The Smith nonsense was created by this board. It is fictional. Smith isn't trying to steer Sampson away from St. John's.
nah he really is marillac
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
To any kid dumb enough to choose Kansas for ANYTHING over NY should get what they deserve.
Cmon now, St Johns has stuff that Kansas can't provide but that statement is such nonsense. Kansas basketball is THE sport in that area/state and they play in one of the best environments in the country. Bill Self has also turned out NBA talent of his own and they're a high seed in the tournament every year. Even though we play at MSG our arena is usually either empty or filled with fans of opposing teams.
Again, there is a number of things SJU can provide that Kansas doesn't but to make it sound like SJU over Kansas is an obvious choice for anyone is ridiculous.
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
To any kid dumb enough to choose Kansas for ANYTHING over NY should get what they deserve.
Cmon now, St Johns has stuff that Kansas can't provide but that statement is such nonsense. Kansas basketball is THE sport in that area/state and they play in one of the best environments in the country. Bill Self has also turned out NBA
talent of his own and they're a high seed in the tournament every year. Even though we play at MSG our arena is usually either empty or filled with fans of opposing teams.
Again, there is a number of things SJU can provide that Kansas doesn't but to make it sound like SJU over Kansas is an obvious choice for anyone is ridiculous.
Have you ever been to Kansas?
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
To any kid dumb enough to choose Kansas for ANYTHING over NY should get what they deserve.
Cmon now, St Johns has stuff that Kansas can't provide but that statement is such nonsense. Kansas basketball is THE sport in that area/state and they play in one of the best environments in the country. Bill Self has also turned out NBA talent of his own and they're a high seed in the tournament every year. Even though we play at MSG our arena is usually either empty or filled with fans of opposing teams.
Again, there is a number of things SJU can provide that Kansas doesn't but to make it sound like SJU over Kansas is an obvious choice for anyone is ridiculous.
I totally agree. News flash: College kids don't come here for Broadway plays or shopping on 5th Avenue. If you are a college basketball fan, you owe it to yourself to check out a game at Allen Fieldhouse. It is night and day different than our place. For their game yesterday against Mizzou, students camped out for one week for tickets. Do you see that here? It is an experience beyond belief.
I attended a game there 5 or 6 years ago. It was a midweek game against a crappy Iowa State team. The place was packed, the crowd was incredibly loud (even in a blowout), and to hear the Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk, literally sends a chill up your spine.
That my friend, is a college basketball environment.
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NY is pretty much over rated......by New Yorkers.
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
To any kid dumb enough to choose Kansas for ANYTHING over NY should get what they deserve.
Well then, I guess New Yorker Russell Robinson got what he deserved -- a national champioship in 2008.
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Good points Macus. Back to back Saturday nationally televised wins can't hurt either. Vitale crowing about our future as well. As anxious as I have been recently about 2012 recruiting, I am now reaffirming my faith in Coach Lavin. Otherwise, I am going to shorten my life. :)
Yeah but Kansas' comeback win against #3 Missouri in front of a packed house of crazed students can't hurt either. My feeling is that we're JK's fall-back school, that he'll wait to see who's signing with whom in April and if he thinks he won't get the PT with, say, an overstocked KU, he'll sign with us.
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
To any kid dumb enough to choose Kansas for ANYTHING over NY should get what they deserve.
Well then, I guess New Yorker Russell Robinson got what he deserved -- a national champioship in 2008.
He's completely irrelevant now. That's the point.
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Can't imagine the kid wanting to be anything other than a Jayhawk after today. What a game/comeback/crowd.
To any kid dumb enough to choose Kansas for ANYTHING over NY should get what they deserve.
Well then, I guess New Yorker Russell Robinson got what he deserved -- a national champioship in 2008.
He's completely irrelevant now. That's the point.
And Kyle Cuffe isn't?
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
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Scout just posted a new article on his weekend in Kansas and his recruitment. Can someone please post highlights?
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
Honestly, this argument made sense 10 years ago, not anymore. UK, Texas, and Baylor are in the middle of nowhere. Those kids are getting plenty of exposure. Not to mention Syracuse. Talk about middle of nowhere.... that place is hell on earth.
Of course, there is an edge to being a stud in NY, but it isn't what it used to be. If it were, kids wouldn't be so anxious to get the hell out of here.
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
Actually the last part of this could easily be said about anyone who thinks the way you do!!
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
Only a nice person.................... or a college basketball player who wanted to play for an elite program would go there.
Kansas is like the Notre Dame of basketball. Elite athletes dont go there to settle down, they go there to play for distinguished programs.
They may want to live in NYC, but they want to play at Kansas, Kentucky, Notre Dame
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
Only a nice person.................... or a college basketball player who wanted to play for an elite program would go there.
Kansas is like the Notre Dame of basketball. Elite athletes dont go there to settle down, they go there to play for distinguished programs.
They may want to live in NYC, but they want to play at Kansas, Kentucky, Notre Dame
For basketball only, scratch ND from your list. Add Duke, NC and UCLA. There you have college bb royalty.
The whole exposure argument is silly in the ESPN age. Are Austin, Memphis or Milwaukee on par with NY as cities? Of course not. Did playing there hurt Durant, Rose or Wade? Rose signed a $250 million deal with Adidas today. Playing in Memphis was an awful move...
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
Only a nice person.................... or a college basketball player who wanted to play for an elite program would go there.
Kansas is like the Notre Dame of basketball. Elite athletes dont go there to settle down, they go there to play for distinguished programs.
They may want to live in NYC, but they want to play at Kansas, Kentucky, Notre Dame
For basketball only, scratch ND from your list. Add Duke, NC and UCLA. There you have college bb royalty.
The whole exposure argument is silly in the ESPN age. Are Austin, Memphis or Milwaukee on par with NY as cities? Of course not. Did playing there hurt Durant, Rose or Wade? Rose signed a $250 million deal with Adidas today. Playing in Memphis was an awful move...
Fwiw, Memphis isn't the middle of nowhere like Waco or Lawrence Kansas. Memphis is a large city with culture and massive basketball support. Memphis averages more fans to games than Kansas does.
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
You have a very one sided view, so probaly wasting breath arguing with you... but from 1998-2008 (I don't have time right now to search for more recent data) 22 players were drafted out of Kansas. I don't think exposure has hurt them. If Jakarr wants to play in Kansas, I could understand why. I just hope he wants to come play in the bright lights on NYC and with his former commits.
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Well then, I guess New Yorker Russell Robinson got what he deserved -- a national champioship in 2008.
Tru and that should never be forgot.
Not to be forgot too is the fact that KU wuz his 2nd choice. Just remindin.....
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Again, I asked the question: have you been to Kansas? I ask that because I have, and it's f'n revolting.
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Yes, I have been through Kansas, but much like other major Universities (Ohio State, Penn State, Syracuse, etc) you can't compare the university town to the surrounding area. The campus is a huge entity with an entirely different population and purpose than the boondocks surrounding it.
And put plainly - Posion you seem like a smart guy, but this debate is beyond ridiculous. Kansas hasn't missed the NCAA's in 20+ years. In the last 8 years they've been to the Elite 8 or beyond 4 times. And in the past 25+ seasons I can count on one hand the number of seasons they HAVEN'T had someone drafted.
It's debatable whether Jakarr is better off getting serious playing time right out of the gate. But Kansas is always a valid option for a ball player. Even if he sits for 2 years there, they have top notch coaches and facilities equal to anyone. You can't argue he's making a mistake by choosing Kansas.
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fwiw the Kansas fan board hasn't heard much on Sampson on yay or nay if he was gonna sign there. This is the last post after someone asked what recruits were thinking about their experience.
I just had breakfast at the Oread and Danny was sitting with some of the recruits. They were all having a good time.
"It was crazy, I got goosebumps from how loud it was," JaKarr Sampson on his visit to KU.
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I love new York, love st. Johns basketball, and liked going to st. Johns for college. A big regret I have is not going to a big time state university. My brother went to Florida, friends went to Ohio st. Their college experience was so much better on many levels then mine were.
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I love new York, love st. Johns basketball, and liked going to st. Johns for college. A big regret I have is not going to a big time state university. My brother went to Florida, friends went to Ohio st. Their college experience was so much better on many levels then mine were.
Different strokes for different folks
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Ron Roberts looks great right now, he's owning Temple. He might be the 6th man of the year. But we don't have a spot for me, another great decision by the staff
You're starting to sound like Bobre. Will you be saying this same thing five years from now?
It is water under the bridge, but Roberts was a beast against Temple yesterday. 18 and 7, and threw down a monster dunk that was a top 10 play on Sports Center this morning.
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
Only a nice person.................... or a college basketball player who wanted to play for an elite program would go there.
Kansas is like the Notre Dame of basketball. Elite athletes dont go there to settle down, they go there to play for distinguished programs.
They may want to live in NYC, but they want to play at Kansas, Kentucky, Notre Dame
For basketball only, scratch ND from your list. Add Duke, NC and UCLA. There you have college bb royalty.
The whole exposure argument is silly in the ESPN age. Are Austin, Memphis or Milwaukee on par with NY as cities? Of course not. Did playing there hurt Durant, Rose or Wade? Rose signed a $250 million deal with Adidas today. Playing in Memphis was an awful move...
Fwiw, Memphis isn't the middle of nowhere like Waco or Lawrence Kansas. Memphis is a large city with culture and massive basketball support. Memphis averages more fans to games than Kansas does.
Memphis averages more fans because they play in a larger building. If Kansas tripled the seating capacity of Phog Allen Fieldhouse, guess what? Every game would still sell out.
The argument advanced by Poison is that by not playing in NYC, a recruit is foolish because he is not getting the same exposure. My point was to simply refute that statement. Instead of Memphis, use Lexington Kentucky. It hasn't hurt anyone coming out of UK.
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Not sure if this means anythig but Robinson of Kansas just tweeted the following
@KarrSampson14 already done!
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Not sure if this means anythig but Robinson of Kansas just tweeted the following
@KarrSampson14 already done!
What it means is Karr said he was now following Robinson and that was Robinson's response.
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Starring in the media capital of the world is going to get you far more exposure than starring in the middle of nowhere. And Zkansas is the middle of nowhere. Only a f'n nice person would go there for anything.
Only a nice person.................... or a college basketball player who wanted to play for an elite program would go there.
Kansas is like the Notre Dame of basketball. Elite athletes dont go there to settle down, they go there to play for distinguished programs.
They may want to live in NYC, but they want to play at Kansas, Kentucky, Notre Dame
For basketball only, scratch ND from your list. Add Duke, NC and UCLA. There you have college bb royalty.
The whole exposure argument is silly in the ESPN age. Are Austin, Memphis or Milwaukee on par with NY as cities? Of course not. Did playing there hurt Durant, Rose or Wade? Rose signed a $250 million deal with Adidas today. Playing in Memphis was an awful move...
Fwiw, Memphis isn't the middle of nowhere like Waco or Lawrence Kansas. Memphis is a large city with culture and massive basketball support. Memphis averages more fans to games than Kansas does.
Memphis averages more fans because they play in a larger building. If Kansas tripled the seating capacity of Phog Allen Fieldhouse, guess what? Every game would still sell out.
The argument advanced by Poison is that by not playing in NYC, a recruit is foolish because he is not getting the same exposure. My point was to simply refute that statement. Instead of Memphis, use Lexington Kentucky. It hasn't hurt anyone coming out of UK.
Actually, Memphis has a ridiculous amount of season ticket holders. Their fans are just as fervent. Your point is understood though and I agree. I still feel that one can't beat the exposure of the Big East and the greatness of playing at MSG. For a guy like Jakarr, i have stated that I think there are too many advantages at SJU to turn down. He can step in and be an impact player with 30+mpg from day 1 on a team full of guys he's already buddies with. My real fear is that Jason smith could derail it somehow. Hope that's not the case.
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What does Smith get out of sending Jakarr to Kansas? What am i missing? An assistant coaching job, $$$?
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Jakarr has not chosen Kansas nor has St Johns been eliminated from his recruitment....Just saying
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As much as his PREP coach may be pushing him to Kansas or another school other that STJ....to me, bottom line is Steve Lavin is in constant contact with him and closing the deal.
No matter where Sampson goes he's going to get time and be a player. But to me...STJ offers the most PT and the best opportunity to showcase his talents. When I think about all the other programs recruiting him, I do understand why we worry about him. But he is a smart kid who already committed to us once....and to me....the bottom line is we offer the best opportunity for him personally! He knows that!! And Lavin will not miss on this one.
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As much as his PREP coach may be pushing him to Kansas or another school other that STJ....to me, bottom line is Steve Lavin is in constant contact with him and closing the deal.
No matter where Sampson goes he's going to get time and be a player. But to me...STJ offers the most PT and the best opportunity to showcase his talents. When I think about all the other programs recruiting him, I do understand why we worry about him. But he is a smart kid who already committed to us once....and to me....the bottom line is we offer the best opportunity for him personally! He knows that!! And Lavin will not miss on this one.
+10000
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As much as his PREP coach may be pushing him to Kansas or another school other that STJ....to me, bottom line is Steve Lavin is in constant contact with him and closing the deal.
No matter where Sampson goes he's going to get time and be a player. But to me...STJ offers the most PT and the best opportunity to showcase his talents. When I think about all the other programs recruiting him, I do understand why we worry about him. But he is a smart kid who already committed to us once....and to me....the bottom line is we offer the best opportunity for him personally! He knows that!! And Lavin will not miss on this one.
Agree... Lavin has put several years into Jakarr. He cares about this kid. I think Jakarr was really one of or even the first kid Lavin really got involved with at SJU. Even before Harkless. The easy thing to do for Lavin would have been to move on a long time ago. Lavin didn't do it. He's swimming upstream and walking through fire against people like j. smith to get Jakarr here. A lot of time and effort put in. The kid has a fantastic opportunity here, and this is the only place where the staff and players already truly care about him. Hope Jakarr realizes this. I don't care how many screaming douchebags were at KU yesterday. Doesn't change the fact that SJU has been waiting with open arms for Jakarr for a long time.
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this is starting to become Kyle Andersen all over again. Wish we knew either way.
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
We are letting things play out, and we currently stand at (0) commitments and numrous Transfers, numrous de-commitments, and numerous academic casulaties. Now how's that for a real fact?
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
We are letting things play out, and we currently stand at (0) commitments and numrous Transfers, numrous de-commitments, and numerous academic casulaties. Now how's that for a real fact?
Branch.
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
We are letting things play out, and we currently stand at (0) commitments and numrous Transfers, numrous de-commitments, and numerous academic casulaties. Now how's that for a real fact?
You should really do some fact checking before posting. St. John's has 1 player committed for 2012
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
We are letting things play out, and we currently stand at (0) commitments and numrous Transfers, numrous de-commitments, and numerous academic casulaties. Now how's that for a real fact?
You should really do some fact checking before posting. St. John's has 1 player committed for 2012
Yes, the Transfer Branch so now we only need about 4 more. We lost about 4 transfers and at least gained one back. Well it's better than zero.
What if Obekpa and Sampson go elsewhere, than what?
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
We are letting things play out, and we currently stand at (0) commitments and numrous Transfers, numrous de-commitments, and numerous academic casulaties. Now how's that for a real fact?
You should really do some fact checking before posting. St. John's has 1 player committed for 2012
Yes, the Transfer Branch so now we only need about 4 more. We lost about 4 transfers and at least gained one back. Well it's better than zero.
What if Obekpa and Sampson go elsewhere, than what?
Then we will probably drop our basketball program down to DIII, and stop handing out scholarships. Either that or we will recruit someone else...
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You don't win championships or run a successful program or business by constantly kidding yourself, spinning the results, over-rating your odds and ignoring reality.
4 months ago this program looked like it was in trememdous shape, but things unfortunately went south in a hurry. EX: The conference fell apart, Lavin had cancer (and I feel for him because he's apparently a gentleman a very decent man), Pelle & Sampson didn't qualify, Woods decommitted, Gathers decommitted, and a few players transferred.
Will the current young players that we do have stay for at least 3 years? Otherwise that becomes a problem too. I don't like what I foresee right now, but I hope I'm very mistaken because we've sure had enough years now in recent times of watching SJU get their you know what handed to them and very little enjoyment of success. Lets put it this way; SJU basketball fans are certainly not spolied at this point over what we have had to witness over the past 15 years.
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You don't win championships or run a successful program or business by constantly kidding yourself, spinning the results, over-rating your odds and ignoring reality.
4 months ago this program looked like it was in trememdous shape, but things unfortunately went south in a hurry. EX: The conference fell apart, Lavin had cancer (and I feel for him because he's a gentleman a a great man), Pelle & Sampson didn't qualify, Woods decommitted, Gathers decommitted, and a few players transferred.
Will the current young players that we do have stay for at least 3 years? Otherwise that becomes a problem too.
Even with the coach out with cancer and all freshmen a and only 6 guys, we just beat DePaul, UCLA and Notre Dame in the last 3. We will have our coach back next year, likely all of our players with the addition of Branch and 4 to be named signees. Things are going fine, and we'll have a better handle after April about our class in its entirety.
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You don't win championships or run a successful program or business by constantly kidding yourself, spinning the results, over-rating your odds and ignoring reality.
4 months ago this program looked like it was in trememdous shape, but things unfortunately went south in a hurry. EX: The conference fell apart, Lavin had cancer (and I feel for him because he's a gentleman a a great man), Pelle & Sampson didn't qualify, Woods decommitted, Gathers decommitted, and a few players transferred.
Will the current young players that we do have stay for at least 3 years? Otherwise that becomes a problem too.
Even with the coach out with cancer and all freshmen a and only 6 guys, we just beat DePaul, UCLA and Notre Dame in the last 3. We will have our coach back next year, likely all of our players with the addition of Branch and 4 to be named signees. Things are going fine, and we'll have a better handle after April about our class in its entirety.
Well that's certainly an optimistic more popular opinion, but is it realistic/practical?
I sure hope that your right and I'm wrong. We'll see come April.
This was once a proud BB program with Lapchick & Louie, and now it's become pretty much a perennial loser. I also root for the NYJ, Knicks, Mets and the Islanders so unfortunately I've grown use to perennial losers and boy oh boy I'm also sick and tired of them by now. After awhile you don't feel bad for them anymore, and you begin to realize that they don't do the necessary things to ever turn it around. Lose, lose & lose, that's what they're all #1/successful at but that's about it.
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You don't win championships or run a successful program or business by constantly kidding yourself, spinning the results, over-rating your odds and ignoring reality.
4 months ago this program looked like it was in trememdous shape, but things unfortunately went south in a hurry. EX: The conference fell apart, Lavin had cancer (and I feel for him because he's apparently a gentleman a very decent man), Pelle & Sampson didn't qualify, Woods decommitted, Gathers decommitted, and a few players transferred.
Will the current young players that we do have stay for at least 3 years? Otherwise that becomes a problem too. I don't like what I foresee right now, but I hope I'm very mistaken because we've sure had enough years now in recent times of watching SJU get their you know what handed to them and very little enjoyment of success. Lets put it this way; SJU basketball fans are certainly not spolied at this point over what we have had to witness over the past 15 years.
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you say "and I feel for him because he's APPARENTLY a gentlemen a very decent man"?
The man fought and beat cancer. All while landing a top 50 recruit from 2011. The state of the program is perfectly fine!!
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Going to DIII may be worth it. I won't have to read this crap about the program being in shambles.
Lavin has dismissed the BS rumors of the past two months.
And we just learned that Sampson is still considering playing for a staff that has turned five freshmen and a sixth first year kid into team that bumped off the third place team in the BE.
It was a great week for Johnny fans and the future is bright.
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You don't win championships or run a successful program or business by constantly kidding yourself, spinning the results, over-rating your odds and ignoring reality.
4 months ago this program looked like it was in trememdous shape, but things unfortunately went south in a hurry. EX: The conference fell apart, Lavin had cancer (and I feel for him because he's apparently a gentleman a very decent man), Pelle & Sampson didn't qualify, Woods decommitted, Gathers decommitted, and a few players transferred.
Will the current young players that we do have stay for at least 3 years? Otherwise that becomes a problem too. I don't like what I foresee right now, but I hope I'm very mistaken because we've sure had enough years now in recent times of watching SJU get their you know what handed to them and very little enjoyment of success. Lets put it this way; SJU basketball fans are certainly not spolied at this point over what we have had to witness over the past 15 years.
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you say "and I feel for him because he's APPARENTLY a gentlemen a very decent man"?
The man fought and beat cancer. All while landing a top 50 recruit from 2011. The state of the program is perfectly fine!!
Yes, he fought and beat cancer and I admire him for it, and I find him to be a very honorable and decent man beside that outstanding achievement. GOD bless him!
I like Steve Lavin, he was a good hire. He's usually an outstanding recruiter and a decent X's & O's guy who surrounds himself with a solid coaching staff. However, things have started to get away a little the past few months. Lets hope he can turn it around and the proof will be in the results. Nobody is pulling for him more than I am I know that.
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
+1
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So Sunday nights is when the hospital gives computer time? :2funny:
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
+1
Another popular post that always gets a lot of approval by the Kool-Aid Club, but that's what Knicks, Mets, Jets & Islanders fans say every year too. They're all unrealistic optimists. Every year they say "just let it all play out", and it's been playing out alright where you want to puke at the results. You know what plays out more than anything else? "Murphy's Law" unfortunately
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
+1
Another popular post that always gets a lot of approval by the Kool-Aid Club, but that's what Knicks, Mets, Jets & Islanders fans say every year too. They're all unrealistic optimists. Every year they say "just let it all play out", and it's been playing out alright where you want to puke at the results. You know what plays out more than anything else? "Murphy's Law" unfortunately
You seriously need a hug right about now man.
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
+1
Another popular post that always gets a lot of approval by the Kool-Aid Club, but that's what Knicks, Mets, Jets & Islanders fans say every year too. They're all unrealistic optimists. Every year they say "just let it all play out", and it's been playing out alright where you want to puke at the results. You know what plays out more than anything else? "Murphy's Law" unfortunately
You seriously need a hug right about now man.
Actually you know what I really need. I need an Owner, a GM or a head coach who's stops talking, stops dreaming AND STARTS WINNING. That's what I need. :)
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
+1
Another popular post that always gets a lot of approval by the Kool-Aid Club, but that's what Knicks, Mets, Jets & Islanders fans say every year too. They're all unrealistic optimists. Every year they say "just let it all play out", and it's been playing out alright where you want to puke at the results. You know what plays out more than anything else? "Murphy's Law" unfortunately
UNFORTUNATELY? Bronson at the top of his game, and Angel Tompkins dancing naked? :)
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You guys are going crazy. Just let things play out.
We are letting things play out, and we currently stand at (0) commitments and numrous Transfers, numrous de-commitments, and numerous academic casulaties. Now how's that for a real fact?
You should really do some fact checking before posting. St. John's has 1 player committed for 2012
Yes, the Transfer Branch so now we only need about 4 more. We lost about 4 transfers and at least gained one back. Well it's better than zero.
What if Obekpa and Sampson go elsewhere, than what?
What if we sign them both?
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It was mentioned not long ago of blocking certain people from contributing on this website until after the April Signing Day.
Any chance of Lapchick1, ShurinaCheese and a couple of other knuckleheads can get censored until after Signing Day?
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Lapchick, it is the blue pill, not the purple one.
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How hard is it to have a constructive conversation? I don't understand why it always comes down to "optimists" v "pessimists" ??
This is such a ridiculous oversimplification.
We've won 3 games in a row Lapchick, what did you want Lavin to win this year? the Big East? The NCAAs??
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How hard is it to have a constructive conversation? I don't understand why it always comes down to "optimists" v "pessimists" ??
This is such a ridiculous oversimplification.
We've won 3 games in a row Lapchick, what did you want Lavin to win this year? the Big East? The NCAAs??
He won't answer till next weekend. Only so many computer hrs your allowed each week where he is
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How hard is it to have a constructive conversation? I don't understand why it always comes down to "optimists" v "pessimists" ??
This is such a ridiculous oversimplification.
We've won 3 games in a row Lapchick, what did you want Lavin to win this year? the Big East? The NCAAs??
He won't answer till next weekend. Only so many computer hrs your allowed each week where he is
Technically, he won't answer at all. He'll just recycle the same garbage he's been posting.
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Dear Lapchick,
Billy Madison - Ultimate Insult (Academic Decathlon) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0#ws)
Everyone lets keep the focus of discussion on JaKarr Sampson please. I know things have been bit of a carousel lately with recruiting news but St. John's is in a good situation with Sampson. Coaching staff feels confidently about him. Let things happen. No matter what the sun will come up the next day.
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Dave, thanks for reminding us that this is in deed a JS forum. It is never productive to have personal infighting on a recruit's site. For Coach Lavin to express his belief that when all is said any done we will have a top 10 recruiting class, he must, I hope, know a great deal more than is out in the public domain. JS is clearly a major step in that direction. Having said that, all this KU talk reminds me of the later days of the hunt for KA.
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Please keep the focus on Jakarr Sampson. Now watch this Adam Sandler video.
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Please keep the focus on Jakarr Sampson. Now watch this Adam Sandler video.
I think you reversed the order of messages in the post you reference, but the suggested hypocrisy of the post was not lost in translation.
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Please keep the focus on Jakarr Sampson. Now watch this Adam Sandler video.
I think you reversed the order of messages in the post you reference, but the suggested hypocrisy of the post was not lost in translation.
Just having a little fun. I'm trying to at least. It's how we can all stomach a 13-16 season
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This was on a PC blog:
JaKarr Sampson Gets Goosebumps from Kansas Visit (http://friarblog.com/2012/02/26/jakarr-sampson-gets-goosebumps-from-kansas-visist/)
BY DAVE@FRIARBLOG (http://friarblog.com/author/admin/) – FEBRUARY 26TH, 2012 2:37 PM
Well good news is, JaKarr Sampson didn’t pop while he was out visiting Kansas this weekend. Bad news is, he couldn’t have gone to a better game in seeing Kansas come back from 19 points to beat Missouri in OT. In fact, Jeff Borzello from CBS Sportscalled it the best game so far this season (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/34989876). Oh crap.
"It was crazy, I got goosebumps from how loud it was," JaKarr Sampson on his visit to KU, story on the trip and what's next coming shortly.
@BSnowScout (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=BSnowScout)
Brian Snow
Providence is still thought to be in great shape with Sampson, and it doesn’t look like he’ll make a decision any time soon since he still plans to visit Florida and PC.
Good thing Ed Cooley’s relationship building > goosebumps.
Wow - PC blog feeling it! :o
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Perhaps Kansas will pull Bucknell again in the dance. A few years ago, that game gave me goosebumps. At least there was a lot going on in Kansas after that happened.
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JaKaar going through with Florida and Providence visits at least means he did not get totally intoxicated with KU visit. Just being positive, no Lapchick 1 cool aid references desired please!
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A trip to Gainesville? I'll take that. You'd have to be crazy not to take that.
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One SJU fan on twitter commented today that he wakes up every thing hoping Jakarr would come back to us and how he's penciled in an PF or something to that effect. Jakarr retweeted this. I still think we just let it play out. He's said good things about KU, Providence too. I think he is trying to be low key about SJU due Jason Smith. He certainly has plenty of love for SJU. Hopefully in the end, we overcome the obstacles.
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Last time around it came down to us, Baylor, and Kansas. Providence has basically stalked the kid for the last two months, and they reside close bye, so it doesn't surprise me they've entered the race.
But I agree with Poison, I think the visit to Florida is more of a curiosity/vacation visit than anything else.
And with Gathers going to Baylor, and Quincy Miller returning, I think they're less attractive than they were a year ago.
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One SJU fan on twitter commented today that he wakes up every thing hoping Jakarr would come back to us and how he's penciled in an PF or something to that effect. Jakarr retweeted this. I still think we just let it play out. He's said good things about KU, Providence too. I think he is trying to be low key about SJU due Jason Smith. He certainly has plenty of love for SJU. Hopefully in the end, we overcome the obstacles.
lol one person on his twitter said he would name his first child after him if he commits to St. John's
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lol one person on his twitter said he would name his first child after him if he commits to St. John's
Jakarr Goldstein has a nice ring to it. Maybe Jakarr O'Sullivan. Hopefully the guy's name was something along those lines.
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One SJU fan on twitter commented today that he wakes up every thing hoping Jakarr would come back to us and how he's penciled in an PF or something to that effect. Jakarr retweeted this. I still think we just let it play out. He's said good things about KU, Providence too. I think he is trying to be low key about SJU due Jason Smith. He certainly has plenty of love for SJU. Hopefully in the end, we overcome the obstacles.
lol one person on his twitter said he would name his first child after him if he commits to St. John's
My point on the twitter thing was only that he's paying attention to SJU still and I don't think we're out of the conversation just yet. I too thought it funny when I read it.
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One SJU fan on twitter commented today that he wakes up every thing hoping Jakarr would come back to us and how he's penciled in an PF or something to that effect. Jakarr retweeted this. I still think we just let it play out. He's said good things about KU, Providence too. I think he is trying to be low key about SJU due Jason Smith. He certainly has plenty of love for SJU. Hopefully in the end, we overcome the obstacles.
lol one person on his twitter said he would name his first child after him if he commits to St. John's
My point on the twitter thing was only that he's paying attention to SJU still and I don't think we're out of the conversation just yet. I too thought it funny when I read it.
Don't read into that stuff. I could tweet JaKarr can dunk cookies in milk and he'd retweet it. They retweet anything with their name in it.
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One SJU fan on twitter commented today that he wakes up every thing hoping Jakarr would come back to us and how he's penciled in an PF or something to that effect. Jakarr retweeted this. I still think we just let it play out. He's said good things about KU, Providence too. I think he is trying to be low key about SJU due Jason Smith. He certainly has plenty of love for SJU. Hopefully in the end, we overcome the obstacles.
lol one person on his twitter said he would name his first child after him if he commits to St. John's
My point on the twitter thing was only that he's paying attention to SJU still and I don't think we're out of the conversation just yet. I too thought it funny when I read it.
Don't read into that stuff. I could tweet JaKarr can dunk cookies in milk and he'd retweet it. They retweet anything with their name in it.
manbearpig says prove it dave
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FWIW Nate Blue tweets he feels we are still in JaKarr sweepstakes, noting a conversation w his folks last night.
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Jason Smith tweeted the finalists for Jakkar, listing ST Johns. I called him out for listing st johns last before realizing it was in alphabetical order. Doh! He tweeted me back letting me know it was nothing personal, just alphabetical. Then I got a bunch of Rock Chalk jay hawk tweets from Kansas fans. Good times.
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Jason Smith tweeted the finalists for Jakkar, listing ST Johns. I called him out for listing st johns last before realizing it was in alphabetical order. Doh! He tweeted me back letting me know it was nothing personal, just alphabetical. Then I got a bunch of Rock Chalk jay hawk tweets from Kansas fans. Good times.
Calling out his high school coach on twitter... Yea that's the ticket.
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Jason Smith tweeted the finalists for Jakkar, listing ST Johns. I called him out for listing st johns last before realizing it was in alphabetical order. Doh! He tweeted me back letting me know it was nothing personal, just alphabetical. Then I got a bunch of Rock Chalk jay hawk tweets from Kansas fans. Good times.
Calling out his high school coach on twitter... Yea that's the ticket.
Yeah, you can all blame me when he goes to Kansas.
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Jason Smith tweeted the finalists for Jakkar, listing ST Johns. I called him out for listing st johns last before realizing it was in alphabetical order. Doh! He tweeted me back letting me know it was nothing personal, just alphabetical. Then I got a bunch of Rock Chalk jay hawk tweets from Kansas fans. Good times.
Calling out his high school coach on twitter... Yea that's the ticket.
Yeah, you can all blame me when he goes to Kansas.
LOLZ.
Any recruit foolish enough to base his decision on some fan(atic)'s post on twitter or a message board is either:
1. Stupid
2. Severely misguided
3. Stupid and severely misguided
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Jason Smith tweeted the finalists for Jakkar, listing ST Johns. I called him out for listing st johns last before realizing it was in alphabetical order. Doh! He tweeted me back letting me know it was nothing personal, just alphabetical. Then I got a bunch of Rock Chalk jay hawk tweets from Kansas fans. Good times.
Calling out his high school coach on twitter... Yea that's the ticket.
Yeah, you can all blame me when he goes to Kansas.
LOLZ.
Any recruit foolish enough to base his decision on some fan(atic)'s post on twitter or a message board is either:
1. Stupid
2. Severely misguided
3. Stupid and severely misguided
BUT RICARDO TOLD ME HE LOVED ME BACK!
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Lol. It really wasn't a big deal. Once I realized his list was alphabetical, i apologized. Smith even re-tweeted me asking Jakarr to come here and there was plenty of playing time for him at St. John's.
I thought it was funny enough to share. Please don't blow this out of proportion.
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Saw Smith's tweet about the teams involved with Jakarr ... didn't know Lousiville was recruiting him. Haven't heard them mentioned with him in a long time.
Does anyone know if they're an actual player in this race, or was JS merely listing them for the sake of making a list?
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Saw Smith's tweet about the teams involved with Jakarr ... didn't know Lousiville was recruiting him. Haven't heard them mentioned with him in a long time.
Does anyone know if they're an actual player in this race, or was JS merely listing them for the sake of making a list?
Chad Millard played for Smith at Brewster, although not sure how happy he was with Louisville, since he left after a season.
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I know I am biased since I am a sju fan and follow these boards religiously but after reading the jay hawk site, no one on their has an idea about jakaar. They seem to be following the sites rivals and zags for any momentum which we know can be misleading. I would imagine that they have people on those boards who consider themselves on the in and if they are not coming out with hard info on him going there after last weekend we must have a good of a shot as any schools mentioned on list.
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The Basketball Diary @TheBBallDiary Close
St Johns is heading up to Endicott on Friday. Providence is heading up on Sunday. The competition for Jakarr Spongebob Sampson is fierce.
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Saw Smith's tweet about the teams involved with Jakarr ... didn't know Lousiville was recruiting him. Haven't heard them mentioned with him in a long time.
Does anyone know if they're an actual player in this race, or was JS merely listing them for the sake of making a list?
They will be getting a visit.
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Saw Smith's tweet about the teams involved with Jakarr ... didn't know Lousiville was recruiting him. Haven't heard them mentioned with him in a long time.
Does anyone know if they're an actual player in this race, or was JS merely listing them for the sake of making a list?
They will be getting a visit.
You still confident he ends up at St. John's?
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Saw Smith's tweet about the teams involved with Jakarr ... didn't know Lousiville was recruiting him. Haven't heard them mentioned with him in a long time.
Does anyone know if they're an actual player in this race, or was JS merely listing them for the sake of making a list?
They will be getting a visit.
You still confident he ends up at St. John's?
Yes.
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can Sampson play in any aa games since he is a post grad student still playing hs ball?
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I like Marillac's confidence.
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Go get him Coach!
“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @TheBBallDiary: St johns steve lavin and tony chiles are in the building. On time! Front and center in front of brewster bench.”
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Go get him Coach!
“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @TheBBallDiary: St johns steve lavin and tony chiles are in the building. On time! Front and center in front of brewster bench.”
wouldnt expect anything less out of Lav! Like Gene Hackmen said in behind enemy lines, "lets go get our boy back!"
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Just so everyone knows I moved all the Bill Self discussion to its own thread on the college sports board
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I would actually like to get updates on jakarr when i visit the thread.
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I would actually like to get updates on jakarr when i visit the thread.
Same here
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new video of JKS game:
http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/03/brewster-academy-new-hampshire-vs.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/03/brewster-academy-new-hampshire-vs.html)
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JaKarr reminds me of Darius Miles a bit. Hopefully a better outcome in store for us.
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Mike Rutherford @CardChronicle
Jakarr Sampson reportedly down to Kansas and Providence. Louisville had tried to come on late. Ed Cooley's doing something right.
Don't know how reliable this guy is but this would certainly suck.
https://twitter.com/#!/cardchronicle
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Mike Rutherford @CardChronicle
Jakarr Sampson reportedly down to Kansas and Providence. Louisville had tried to come on late. Ed Cooley's doing something right.
Don't know how reliable this guy is but this would certainly suck.
https://twitter.com/#!/cardchronicle
where there's smoke there's fire. i think SJU79 said we were out; jason smith keeps touting KS and Prov on twitter.
keeping my fingers crossed.
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Mike Rutherford @CardChronicle
Jakarr Sampson reportedly down to Kansas and Providence. Louisville had tried to come on late. Ed Cooley's doing something right.
Don't know how reliable this guy is but this would certainly suck.
https://twitter.com/#!/cardchronicle
where there's smoke there's fire. i think SJU79 said we were out; jason smith keeps touting KS and Prov on twitter.
keeping my fingers crossed.
I just hope that Jason Smith isn't effing it up for SJU. I don't think this is Jakarr speaking.
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Believe me, relax!!
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People need to just keep their cool until he signs elsewhere.
Ever consider he's blowing smoke up his dickhead coach's ass until the last minute?
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People need to just keep their cool until he signs elsewhere.
Ever consider he's blowing smoke up his dickhead coach's ass until the last minute?
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Still not getting the hate for the Brewster coach.. Because it appears that Jakarr might not come here? First thing is that we still are in it.. And if he doesn't come here .. It most certainly will not be because of his coach.
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Lavin tweeted another reference to "stellar 2012 class". He also made same comment in Katz interview. Could he be so out there in his predictions without some degree of confidence? A good friend of mine with sound insight into the program, just keeps telling me we will very surprised and pleased. I have no choice, but to have faith in a man with such recruiting success, Rise Academy debacle aside.
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People need to just keep their cool until he signs elsewhere.
Ever consider he's blowing smoke up his dickhead coach's ass until the last minute?
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Still not getting the hate for the Brewster coach.. Because it appears that Jakarr might not come here? First thing is that we still are in it.. And if he doesn't come here .. It most certainly will not be because of his coach.
No, not at all. I'm a longtime St. John's fan. If I got pissed every time we lost a big recruit my heart would have given out years ago. When a coach tries to steer a kid in a certain direction for their own personal reasons, that's what bugs me. And that's what I've heard about Smith from about 10 different people -- all very even-tempered as well when it comes to recruiting.
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People need to just keep their cool until he signs elsewhere.
Ever consider he's blowing smoke up his dickhead coach's ass until the last minute?
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Still not getting the hate for the Brewster coach.. Because it appears that Jakarr might not come here? First thing is that we still are in it.. And if he doesn't come here .. It most certainly will not be because of his coach.
No, not at all. I'm a longtime St. John's fan. If I got pissed every time we lost a big recruit my heart would have given out years ago. When a coach tries to steer a kid in a certain direction for their own personal reasons, that's what bugs me. And that's what I've heard about Smith from about 10 different people -- all very even-tempered as well when it comes to recruiting.
For those that think Smith is steering Jakarr, or at least trying to...
(I personally wouldn't know the answer) But are we assuming it's because he's angling for an assistant job at KU or is there something else he stands to get out of it?
Or is it possible he think he's doing the best thing for his kids by pushing them towards Kansas?
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Lavin tweeted another reference to "stellar 2012 class". He also made same comment in Katz interview. Could he be so out there in his predictions without some degree of confidence? A good friend of mine with sound insight into the program, just keeps telling me we will very surprised and pleased. I have no choice, but to have faith in a man with such recruiting success, Rise Academy debacle aside.
I know what you mean. To be honest you gotta have faith in Lavin. It will work out, he has the drive.
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Really man? You're the master of laying hints but you gotta give us more than that ;D
Are there good things in the works on this beautiful spring day? Or is that a sign we should move along, nothing to see here?
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Sampson is denying he is down to the 2 schools on twitter
James smith @JamesLilmack105
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@KarrSampson14 please respond if the reports that u are down to ku and pc NOT true
JaKarr Sampson JaKarr Sampson @KarrSampson14
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@JamesLilmack105 not true
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One more game for JS and then good news
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One more game for JS and then good news
That is a rather definitive pronouncement. I always assume that you know something that will make the rest of us very happy.
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One more game for JS and then good news
:up:
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One more game for JS and then good news
Good news for who? Providence, Kansas, or St. John's?
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Will sign on the dotted line?
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Well tonight is Sampson's last game.
Here's a link to the game streaming live...
Crusader22 (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/crusader-22-Productions#)
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“@KarrSampson14: National champion and tournament MVP... #tonice!!!”
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It appears that the all out social media blitz is on for Jakarr right now . Now that his season is over,, fans from Kansas, Providence, and of course us are tweeting him like crazy to come to each respective school. So who has the craziest fans?? You should see some of the stuff he is getting. :D
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You like corn? You like cow? Come to Kansas. We got both!
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It appears that the all out social media blitz is on for Jakarr right now . Now that his season is over,, fans from Kansas, Providence, and of course us are tweeting him like crazy to come to each respective school. So who has the craziest fans?? You should see some of the stuff he is getting. :D
Who do you think has the craziest fans?
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It appears that the all out social media blitz is on for Jakarr right now . Now that his season is over,, fans from Kansas, Providence, and of course us are tweeting him like crazy to come to each respective school. So who has the craziest fans?? You should see some of the stuff he is getting. :D
Who do you think has the craziest fans?
I would think it's Kansas.. But we got some pretty crazy fans :)
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You like corn? You like cow? Come to Kansas. We got both!
Nothing beats the Kansas tweet of " come to Kansas Jakarr and join the Family.. We are all related.. Literally "
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
No worries '79. Your not losing credibility. This stuff changes so frequently its impossible to keep up with. But your latest report jives with what I've been and some others in the know have been hearing as well.
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
Keep the reports coming. Like Moose said this stuff changes all the time so it is impossible to know for sure but I for one always appreciate your updates.
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
Thanks 79. I'm starting to like our chances with reports like this, as well as Lavin's comments like "best class ever."
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
No worries '79. Your not losing credibility. This stuff changes so frequently its impossible to keep up with. But your latest report jives with what I've been and some others in the know have been hearing as well.
MD just got a verbal from PF Charles Mitchell. now it's time for JaKarr to get back with his guys!
https://twitter.com/Terptek/status/177811191316484096 (https://twitter.com/#!/Terptek/status/177811191316484096)
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
Keep the reports coming. Like Moose said this stuff changes all the time so it is impossible to know for sure but I for one always appreciate your updates.
+1. Always appreciate what you have to say 79
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if the current roster is all over him to come, we need the fan base to show him the same love. Providence and KU fans are all over him on twitter. It's the same 2-3 St John's fans showing him love, over and over again. doesn't say much about our fans.
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Thanks 79'. If its between us and Providence then I feel real good about where we stand. Not a shot at them or to say they couldn't beat us for him because they could but we have much more to offer him then they do. Time will tell
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
we should probably take down or lock the Pelle thread. what do you think dave?
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if the current roster is all over him to come, we need the fan base to show him the same love. Providence and KU fans are all over him on twitter. It's the same 2-3 St John's fans showing him love, over and over again. doesn't say much about our fans.
You want more fans showing love on Twitter? I think a small number is manageable. When half the state of Kansas is doing it, that seems excessive to me.
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And I agree with you on Pelle, we need to lay off him and let him chose whats best for him. He's not a punk and seems to be a good dude, no need to insult him
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Thanks Sju79. Things change. We are dealing with teenagers.
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I'd like to echo everyone's comments and thank you as well, SJU79! We really appreciate the info, especially when it's good info like this!
Jakarr would be so sick on this team...MSG, NYC, the Big East, the exposure, this great coaching staff - come home to the Redmen, Jakarr!
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Jakarr needs to look no further than the 53 pages of posts here as well as another novella full of posts about Jakarr on Redmen.com. Jakarr is going to have a hard time turning down playing with all his friends and guys he already knows as well as carte Blanche PT next to two of the best SG/SF's in the country. Our style of play is another factor. I'm sorry, but for Jakarr, SJU has to be a no brainer. Cooley can go to as many games as he wants and throw as many of his players under the bus as he wants, he's no Steve Lavin/Dunlap. If Jakarr wants to be an NBA player, SJU the place to hone his game next to some of the best young talent in the game. I think we land this kid. The sooner the better.
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Bring us the B.E. Rookie of the Year two years in a row, Jakarr!
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
No worries '79. Your not losing credibility. This stuff changes so frequently its impossible to keep up with. But your latest report jives with what I've been and some others in the know have been hearing as well.
Ditto
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You like corn? You like cow? Come to Kansas. We got both!
Jakarr - fun and exitement - just two words. COW TIPPING!
signed, Rock Chalk Jayhawk
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huh?
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I understand that im losing all credability here but since I dont know this kid im only reporting what I hear from people I trust.. Just spoke with a guy at Brewster who SWEARS that Jakarr has not only not eliminated SJU but they are right near the top. The kids on the roster are all over him to come and join in and that is really working on him. He says Fla not really an option, the wow factor of KU is wearing off but Prov is literally ALL OVER him. His guess was a 2 way tie between SJU and Prov with KU close behind and all else out of the picture. Guy also mentioned Norvel is having Issues(not physical health) so as decent people perhaps we could lay off the insults on him and keep him in our prayers
we all know your info is as good as it gets. It;s always appreciated and keep the info flowing please. Thx
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huh?
What are you confused about?
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nothing now missed read it on my girls tablet at work, I thought crgreen said he sign with KU my heart skipped a beat.This is why I love sports for the anticipation but at times can be nerve racking . Does anyone know if Jakarr signing depends on if Harkless is leaving or staying. I guess both could be looked at as negatives and positives for him
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Highlights from JKS' Championship game
2012 National Prep Championship Game - Hargrave Military Academy vs Brewster Academy (3-7-12) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzAi_FjRzZE#ws)
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nothing now missed read it on my girls tablet at work, I thought crgreen said he sign with KU my heart skipped a beat.This is why I love sports for the anticipation but at times can be nerve racking . Does anyone know if Jakarr signing depends on if Harkless is leaving or staying. I guess both could be looked at as negatives and positives for him
I don't think Harkless leaving could be a positive for anyone. Even him.
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Agreed
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has Jakarr set a date or led on when he is going to announce?
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Would love to see Sampson out on that court with Harkless and Harrison on a nightly basis. Having three legitimate scoring threats on the floor would be dangerous for the rest of the Big East. And with continued improvement from Garrett, Pointer, and Greene, we would be a tough team to face.
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
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Karr. Rejoin your buddies and Lavs. A lineup of Branch,Harrison,Amir/Dom,Harkless,and Sampson would be very formidable. You will be a king and get to go to school in the greatest city in the world, a great experience.
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
I agree when he first commited , he was more of a slasher / defender.. He looks like he has really developed a mid range jumper this year.. The last 2 games he was knocking them down with ease. Maybe he can be that main scoring option in college ??
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
I agree when he first commited , he was more of a slasher / defender.. He looks like he has really developed a mid range jumper this year.. The last 2 games he was knocking them down with ease. Maybe he can be that main scoring option in college ??
I agree. You guys have probably seen him a lot more, I've only seen him on tv this year, but he looked better than I expected with the ball in his hands. I had heard that slasher label used for him, and I thought he was more than that.
Don't know if he can be a main scoring option, but we certainly could use the help. I think we overlook how much this team struggled on offense this year. Truth is, even with being outsized we actually competed on the boards most nights, weren't terribly turnover prone, and for the most part played good defense.
Very broadly speaking; we need to put the ball in the bucket on a more consistent basis next year. I'm hoping Branch, and a year under the guys' belts aids that.
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Still a bit raw in half court offensive sets but would be the most athletic player on the team. Plays phenomenal defense during the press and is extremely dangerous on the break. His offensive game is improving but still needs some work, isn't a threat from the perimeter at this stage. Really fits our system perfectly and would be a big piece from day 1 but not someone who I think would put up 15 a game as freshman IMO.
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Well I believe number fourteen is still available. Seems Jakarr wears that number wherever he plays. As a matter of fact according to the Rivals Yahoo St. John's roster for this past year they already have Jakarr listed as # 14 for St. John's. Also shows Pelle with number five. See below:
Roster
No. Player Pos Ht Wt Yr (Exp) Hometown
3 Achiuwa, God'sgift F 6-8 236 Jr (2V) Port Harcourt, Nigeria (Erie CC)
23 Ayree, Anteh G-F 6-2 183 Fr (HS) Fairburn, GA (Arlington Christian HS)
25 Bashen, Drew F 6-0 185 Fr (HS) Houston, TX (Texas HS)
55 Brakalov, Boris G 6-2 185 Sr (3V) Sofia, Bulgaria (National Trade & Banking HS)
11 Branch, Jamal G 6-3 165 Fr (HS) Arlington, TX (Texas A&M)
12 Donaldson, Trai G 6-0 165 Fr (HS) Tampa, FL (Alonso HS)
22 Garrett, Amir F 6-6 209 Fr (HS) Los Angeles, CA (Bridgton Academy)
1 Greene, Phil G 6-2 180 Fr (HS) Chicago, IL (IMG Academy)
4 Harkless, Moe G-F 6-8 208 Fr (HS) Queens, NY (South Kent Prep)
11 Harrison, D'Angelo G 6-3 202 Fr (HS) Missouri City, TX (Dulles HS)
5 Pelle, Norvel F-C 6-10 200 Fr (HS) Compton, CA (Price HS)
15 Pointer, Sir'Dominic G-F 6-5 196 Fr (HS) Detroit, MI (Quality Education Academy)
25 Rivers, Gerard G 6-0 175 Fr (HS) Lancaster, CA (Paraclete HS)
14 Sampson, Jakarr F 6-7 190 Fr (HS) Akron, OH (Brewster Academy)
40 Sealy, Sam F 6-8 195 Fr (HS) Medford, NY (Longwood HS)
31 Stith, Malik G 5-11 184 Jr (2V) Hempstead, NY (Bridgton Academy)
30 White, Jamal G 6-4 200 Jr (3V) Roosevelt, NY (Long Island)
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
I think he is better than either...certainly much better offensively that Dom. I think he's right up there with Moe to be honest, probably just step below. I also think he'll shoot the ball from deep better than anyone we saw on our squad this year not named D'Angelo. I like the way Garrett can score off the bounce, but not only can Sampson get his off the bounce, he can score inside on a consistent basis.
Not that you are saying or thinking this, Dave, but anyone that thinks Sampson doesn't walk in and average double-digits is being silly IMO. This is a future NBA first rounder.
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
is that a good or bad thing Dave? Dom is offensively Challenged. Amir has potential and think he'll avg 10-12 nxt season. but on a team offensively challenged will we have too many similar players?
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Highlights from JKS' Championship game
2012 National Prep Championship Game - Hargrave Military Academy vs Brewster Academy (3-7-12) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzAi_FjRzZE#ws)
look Jakaar is already wearing the Red sneakers.. just like his buddies did in their StJ Unis.. he even has a red headband
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
is that a good or bad thing Dave? Dom is offensively Challenged. Amir has potential and think he'll avg 10-12 nxt season. but on a team offensively challenged will we have too many similar players?
Lavor was no prize offensively his first year either. Like Dom, Lavor was highly rated, top 60, and developed his game. Dom's gonna be a four year player here and I think he's going to become better every year. He's already an impact player on defense. His offense will come around.
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
is that a good or bad thing Dave? Dom is offensively Challenged. Amir has potential and think he'll avg 10-12 nxt season. but on a team offensively challenged will we have too many similar players?
I think what Dave is saying is he isn't an amare staudamire face to the basket kind of offensive weapon. The kid is a stud. He was mvp of that tournament on s team with two 5 star front court players.
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JaKarr does something very well that this team doesn't have, he can score from the post. He is outstanding at catching in the paint and facing up on his man.
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http://fivestarbasketball.com/commitment-corner/03-09-2012-video-jakarr-sampson-reflects-on-ku-visit-providence-and-st-john-s (http://fivestarbasketball.com/commitment-corner/03-09-2012-video-jakarr-sampson-reflects-on-ku-visit-providence-and-st-john-s)
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http://fivestarbasketball.com/commitment-corner/03-09-2012-video-jakarr-sampson-reflects-on-ku-visit-providence-and-st-john-s (http://fivestarbasketball.com/commitment-corner/03-09-2012-video-jakarr-sampson-reflects-on-ku-visit-providence-and-st-john-s)
he thinks Cooley "is a clown"? sounds like Cooley is trying to come off as the cool players' coach.
at least he still thinks him, dlo, and harkless can be deadly.
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Damn, I need to stop reading this thread. I had prepared myself that Jakarr was a lost cause and had accepted it, especially after '79 earlier posts.
Now , Im sucked back in. Getting my hopes up again. He seems like a great kid and after watching the video i think we have a helluva chance. I'll be shocked if he goes to Prov. Kansas scares me. He would be a perfect for this team.
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http://fivestarbasketball.com/commitment-corner/03-09-2012-video-jakarr-sampson-reflects-on-ku-visit-providence-and-st-john-s (http://fivestarbasketball.com/commitment-corner/03-09-2012-video-jakarr-sampson-reflects-on-ku-visit-providence-and-st-john-s)
he thinks Cooley "is a clown"? sounds like Cooley is trying to come off as the cool players' coach.
at least he still thinks him, dlo, and harkless can be deadly.
If his best comments about provo is sidiki and cooley are clowns that is a bad soundclip for them. Don't like reading into these things. He also sounds pretty well spoken for a kid that couldn't qualify. Come be with your boys. That trio could be killer!
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he thinks Cooley "is a clown"? sounds like Cooley is trying to come off as the cool players' coach.
at least he still thinks him, dlo, and harkless can be deadly.
I thought the same thing about the clown reference. Who wants to play for a clown? I really hope we get Jakarr
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This video is great for us, as it confirms we are firmly in the hunt: he's "bonded" with our guys, D'Lo, Moe and him can be deadly, still could do something "special" together. Kansas fans (not the team) got a lot of love, and Cooley was called a clown three or four times. Who knows what Jakarr ultimately decides, but after this video, you really have to like our chances.
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;)
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Jakarr isn't really a "scorer" he's like Dom/Amir in terms of offensive prowess.
is that a good or bad thing Dave? Dom is offensively Challenged. Amir has potential and think he'll avg 10-12 nxt season. but on a team offensively challenged will we have too many similar players?
Lavor was no prize offensively his first year either. Like Dom, Lavor was highly rated, top 60, and developed his game. Dom's gonna be a four year player here and I think he's going to become better every year. He's already an impact player on defense. His offense will come around.
I'm sure he'll improve every year. He really needs to start on the offense. Needs a lot of work, dribbling, handle, shooting, being less aggressive on offense. Sometimes the break just is not there. It's no shame to pull up instead of trying to dribble through a crowd of 3 -4 players. A lot of these kids make that mistake.
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he thinks Cooley "is a clown"? sounds like Cooley is trying to come off as the cool players' coach.
at least he still thinks him, dlo, and harkless can be deadly.
I thought the same thing about the clown reference. Who wants to play for a clown? I really hope we get Jakarr
Far be it from me to be an expert on the vernacular of today's 18 year old kids, but I think "being a clown" is a good thing. That being said we are right there. A little help from Moe and D'Lo please ;)
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Paultzman...is that winky face a signal that we're set and "the fix is in" a la The Sting? ;)
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Don't think anybody posted this yet but Dave Telep had an article on Jakarr on ESPN Insider today..
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post/_/id/1039/friars-gators-next-up-to-host-sampson (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post/_/id/1039/friars-gators-next-up-to-host-sampson)
The gist is that Jakarr is down to Providence, Florida, Kansas, Baylor, and St Johns. (No surprises there, although no Louisville anymore)
And that he's going to look to take 2 more official visits: Florida and Providence.
Sampson says he couldn't decide if he had to choose today, although Cooley has been recruiting him the hardest he says.
Telep's take is:
"You get the feeling that Sampson could be the kind of guy who hits it off with the players and makes his decision based on gut feel. All of the teams on his list like to score, some would use his length better than others but each could use a guy with his skill set."
And it ends with some direct quotes from Jakarr about what he's looking for:
“It has to be a perfect fit,” Sampson said. “That’s what got to be perfect. If it’s not right you’ll be unhappy. The ideal fit is a team that will let me play defense, get after it, play up tempo and let me get after.”
“That’s the tough part. You start looking at the rosters and where you can see yourself fit in: who got who, who’s coming in behind you. I’m a competitor so I don’t think about that aspect a lot but it kind of do think about it.”
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i wish we could get him to come back to campus for a visit. what's holding that back?
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Cooley might be recruiting him the hardest.. But he is also The closest to him as well. A trip from Providence to New Hampshire is about 90 miles away.
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Cooley might be recruiting him the hardest.. But he is also The closest to him as well. A trip from Providence to New Hampshire is about 90 miles away.
It is close. I don't know the basketball scene like some other posters, but based on what the kids say, I think Cooley has really been able to build a rapport with recruits. For whatever reason he's been able to connect with kids, they like him. My take is Cooley is a real threat for Jakarr.
And definitely for Obekpa and Sanchez.
I'd be interested to hear what people think of him as a recruiter, because even without Noel he's bringing in some real talent, and is still in the hunt for two of our top recruits (Sampson and Chris O) as well.
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Cooley might be recruiting him the hardest.. But he is also The closest to him as well. A trip from Providence to New Hampshire is about 90 miles away.
While on the topic, Seton Hall recruited Anderson the hardest...
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Don't know for sure, but told Sampson back in Ohio, perhaps sorting things out. IMO, better for us with home based folks around him more open to SJU than his HS coach. Not groundbreaking news, but I thought I'd share it.
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Don't know for sure, but told Sampson back in Ohio, perhaps sorting things out. IMO, better for us with home based folks around him more open to SJU than his HS coach. Not groundbreaking news, but I thought I'd share it.
Yes he mentioned he was in Ohio on twitter.
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Don't know for sure, but told Sampson back in Ohio, perhaps sorting things out. IMO, better for us with home based folks around him more open to SJU than his HS coach. Not groundbreaking news, but I thought I'd share it.
I think it's big news. Sounds like a kid getting ready to announce this week.
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Don't know for sure, but told Sampson back in Ohio, perhaps sorting things out. IMO, better for us with home based folks around him more open to SJU than his HS coach. Not groundbreaking news, but I thought I'd share it.
I think it's big news. Sounds like a kid getting ready to announce this week.
i think it's spring break...
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Don't know for sure, but told Sampson back in Ohio, perhaps sorting things out. IMO, better for us with home based folks around him more open to SJU than his HS coach. Not groundbreaking news, but I thought I'd share it.
I think it's big news. Sounds like a kid getting ready to announce this week.
i think it's spring break...
Maybe both!
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Watching that video again; I'm not so sure it's a positive for us.
Jakarr says "We thought we were gonna do something special ya know, but..."
He then goes on to say "... it still could happen". As if to say "I guess it could still happen".
I'm reading the tea leaves here so anything could still happen, but that sounds more like someone who's not eliminating St Johns. It doesn't sound like somebody coming here.
Again, it just seems like experience tells us when players decommit and open up their recruiting, they don't end up coming back to their original school.
And it's a shame because I think Jakarr would like it here.
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Stop trying to read the mind of an 18 year old. You will drive yourself crazy. lol. If he wants to be here, he'll come. If not, good luck at Kansas. We will move on and survive.
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Stop trying to read the mind of an 18 year old. You will drive yourself crazy. lol. If he wants to be here, he'll come. If not, good luck at Kansas. We will move on and survive.
It's true lol. In a month or so we'll all see where the chips fall.
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Stop trying to read the mind of an 18 year old. You will drive yourself crazy. lol. If he wants to be here, he'll come. If not, good luck at Kansas. We will move on and survive.
It's true lol. In a month or so we'll all see where the chips fall.
Recruiting is fluid. You're dealing with kids. Some handle the spotlight better than others. Some (generally those with good support networks) manage the process pretty well. Other's don't. It could become a circus.
Three of the most important things I have learned following football and basketball recruiting are:
1. There is no such thing as a verbal commitment.
2. Keep recruiting -never stop.
3. Recruiting is fluid. Things change.
4. Never take an "insiders" post/text, etc. as a matter of fact. Instead, take it for what it is worth.
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Stop trying to read the mind of an 18 year old. You will drive yourself crazy. lol. If he wants to be here, he'll come. If not, good luck at Kansas. We will move on and survive.
It's true lol. In a month or so we'll all see where the chips fall.
Recruiting is fluid. You're dealing with kids. Some handle the spotlight better than others. Some (generally those with good support networks) manage the process pretty well. Other's don't. It could become a circus.
Three of the most important things I have learned following football and basketball recruiting are:
1. There is no such thing as a verbal commitment.
2. Keep recruiting -never stop.
3. Recruiting is fluid. Things change.
4. Never take an "insiders" post/text, etc. as a matter of fact. Instead, take it for what it is worth.
I'd add a #5: Never take the PLAYERS post/test, etc. as a matter of fact....
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Stop trying to read the mind of an 18 year old. You will drive yourself crazy. lol. If he wants to be here, he'll come. If not, good luck at Kansas. We will move on and survive.
It's true lol. In a month or so we'll all see where the chips fall.
Recruiting is fluid. You're dealing with kids. Some handle the spotlight better than others. Some (generally those with good support networks) manage the process pretty well. Other's don't. It could become a circus.
Three of the most important things I have learned following football and basketball recruiting are:
1. There is no such thing as a verbal commitment.
2. Keep recruiting -never stop.
3. Recruiting is fluid. Things change.
4. Never take an "insiders" post/text, etc. as a matter of fact. Instead, take it for what it is worth.
That is four things not three :)
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LOL, yeah I noticed that. I agree with green, also.
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Jakarr Sampson can FLY | AAA player of the year Sr season - Brewster Academy 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aGOQ8arBkc#ws)
This is just ridiculous.
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Him and Mo on the court at the same time would be sick
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His stroke looks much improved. I love how he finishes with ferocious 1 hand dunks. Really imposing. Him and moe would be dynamite!
My guess is that His college choice and moes decision on staying or leaving happen during the same week.
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NBA first round pick.
Although I feel like his SF game took a step back at Brewster, playing mostly PF. At SVSM, he had the ball in his hands a lot and was always on the perimeter in the footage. Everything here is a dunk.
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His stroke looks much improved. I love how he finishes with ferocious 1 hand dunks. Really imposing. Him and moe would be dynamite!
My guess is that His college choice and moes decision on staying or leaving happen during the same week.
I honestly don't think they are related. If anything his commitment could help Moe stick around.
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Kid is an absolute stud. Goes without saying, he is the key to the 2012 recruiting class. We need some great news. Jakkar's commitment would be just what the doctor ordered.
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His stroke looks much improved. I love how he finishes with ferocious 1 hand dunks. Really imposing. Him and moe would be dynamite!
My guess is that His college choice and moes decision on staying or leaving happen during the same week.
I honestly don't think they are related. If anything his commitment could help Moe stick around.
Your second part is what I was getting at moose. He commits than moe decides to stay. Im hopeful at least
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Ugh, I'll be really disappointed if he goes elsewhere.
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When Lavin talks about a stellar recruiting class.. It begins and ends with this kid.
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Watching the video of him makes me realize how crazy Lavin's 1st class was. Hopefully we get him back here
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When Lavin talks about a stellar recruiting class.. It begins and ends with this kid.
100% Agree
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They are on spring break
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“@BrewsterHoops: #Brewster guard Joe Bramanti will take an unofficial visit to #Providence on Fri. #Citadel has offered. Interest from #BC, #Jacksonville,etc”
“@BrewsterHoops: Bramanti is someone u need to see play multiple times to appreciate and properly evaluate. Coach Cooley has seen #Brewster a lot! #JaKarr”
Probably has nothing to do w Sampson, but thought it interesting.
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“@BrewsterHoops: #Brewster guard Joe Bramanti will take an unofficial visit to #Providence on Fri. #Citadel has offered. Interest from #BC, #Jacksonville,etc”
“@BrewsterHoops: Bramanti is someone u need to see play multiple times to appreciate and properly evaluate. Coach Cooley has seen #Brewster a lot! #JaKarr”
Probably has nothing to do w Sampson, but thought it interesting.
Cooley must be really desperate. I like Brimanti. If I was a MAAC coach.
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Agree Moose, not our Coach God bless him!
“@STJCoachLavin: Evening workout at downtown Equinox ...building cardio into the comeback routine...can't keep up with Mary as she has youth on her side.”
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Bramanti could be a great role player for a low D1 team but is not a big east player at all. I like his game alot but I doubt PC is serious about him
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Agree Moose, not our Coach God bless him!
“@STJCoachLavin: Evening workout at downtown Equinox ...building cardio into the comeback routine...can't keep up with Mary as she has youth on her side.”
Anything I can do to help coach? :) JK can't keep up with my wife either.LOL ;D
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Bulking up hopefully.
“@JoshLee_BAHoops: No matter where @KarrSampson14 goes next year, he will win MM dunk contest after he spends the next month in weight room. Right Karr?”
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oFF THE BOARD TO ST. JOHNS!!!
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1167826&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1167826.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1167826&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1167826.html)
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HE'S BACCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
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blow it up guys...hammer to rock
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In Lavin we trust!!!!!
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Great news!!
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NICE!!! Keep the Faith!!!
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Great news guys. way to go Lavin and company
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Great news, YES!
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Who was doubting Lavin?
#38 Sampson
#51 Branch
An athletic freak show in Felix Balamou
And 3-4 more ships to play with :) Hammer to Rock
Right now we have some depth...nine guys.
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WELCOME HOME JAKARR!!!!! SJU SJU SJU!!!!!
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as Mike Breen would say... BANG!!!
Big time!!
Very happy he's back.
Although that may mean that Moe is gone, and JaKarr will play the same role Moe did this year for the squad next year alongside D'Angelo
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:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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as Mike Breen would say... BANG!!!
Big time!!
Very happy he's back.
Although that may mean that Moe is gone, and JaKarr will play the same role Moe did this year for the squad next year alongside D'Angelo
Better yet, Moe decides to stay and play the 3 next year while Jakarr plays the 4.
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amazing news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are back
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People are shocked that he re-committed here. Interesting.
Brian Snow @BSnowScout Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I can't remember the last time I was as shocked in a decision as I am in this one. No one was thinking Red Storm for Sampson
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Boo3 maybe you're right - this gives Moe an added incentive to stay - Branch at the 1 - D'Angelo at the 2 then Moe and JaKarr - and hopefully we land Obekpa at the 5
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Awesome...now maybe he can recruit Mo to stay
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Let the flood gates begin to open !!
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People are shocked that he re-committed here. Interesting.
Brian Snow @BSnowScout Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I can't remember the last time I was as shocked in a decision as I am in this one. No one was thinking Red Storm for Sampson
I saw that too and was confused. I figured a guy like snow would be more in the loop. it was no secret we were always at the top of Sampson's list
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Great job by Lavin staying with Jakaar. Very happy Jakaar decided to come back. Wish him the best and hope he has a great career here.
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Incredible
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HUGE recommit here. This gives us a better shot at keeping Moe and more of a chance to win if Moe leaves.
Welcome back Jakarr.
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
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Awesome news! Just can't wait until we get someone at the 5 and I will be grinning from ear to ear.
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OH HELL YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Seriously have to be up in 5 hours and just heard the news. Now I can't sleep .. Great.. Next commit please try and leak the news before 10pm.. Thanks!! :). Great day guys.. And welcome back Jakarr!!! Let's go!!!!!!
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Ive literally been watching jakarr's game tapes from the basketball diaries all night. Now he commits?! Who should I watch tomorrow lol.
FWIW the game im watching Jakarr is easily outplaying Noel from tilton. The #1 player in this class..
Welcome back Jakarr! Now convince moe to stay!
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Ok glad I finally got one kinda right! Can tell you we are in Chris's final 3 and from what I hear Morris will be next
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People are shocked that he re-committed here. Interesting.
Brian Snow @BSnowScout Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I can't remember the last time I was as shocked in a decision as I am in this one. No one was thinking Red Storm for Sampson
I saw that too and was confused. I figured a guy like snow would be more in the loop. it was no secret we were always at the top of Sampson's list
Not true. There is a reason why Snow got the scoop, he's a Brewster alum. He was very much in the loop. A lot of people were pushing JaKarr in opposite directions but JaKarr and his family wanted St. John's.
This helps in St. John's favor for Moe but ultimately won't prevent him leaving.
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Ok glad I finally got one kinda right! Can tell you we are in Chris's final 3 and from what I hear Morris will be next
Morris most likely will be next. He loves St. John's.
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Gotta think Jakarr has pull and him committing will push others towards the johnnies
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Have to credit Lavin's relationship with JaKarr and his mother. Without Lav he isn't here.
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Ive literally been watching jakarr's game tapes from the basketball diaries all night. Now he commits?! Who should I watch tomorrow lol.
FWIW the game im watching Jakarr is easily outplaying Noel from tilton. The #1 player in this class..
Welcome back Jakarr! Now convince moe to stay!
Maybe Nerlens Noel will shock the world and come on board :)
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Have to credit Lavin's relationship with JaKarr and his mother. Without Lav he isn't here.
Who is here without Lav?
Stith? :laugh: just kidding.
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Ok glad I finally got one kinda right! Can tell you we are in Chris's final 3 and from what I hear Morris will be next
Morris most likely will be next. He loves St. John's.
I hope so haven't heard much about him since that first story 2 weeks ago
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Ok glad I finally got one kinda right! Can tell you we are in Chris's final 3 and from what I hear Morris will be next
Love this.
And '79, like others have said, your info is always appreciated--no matter what you're hearing. Keep it coming.
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People are shocked that he re-committed here. Interesting.
Brian Snow @BSnowScout Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I can't remember the last time I was as shocked in a decision as I am in this one. No one was thinking Red Storm for Sampson
I saw that too and was confused. I figured a guy like snow would be more in the loop. it was no secret we were always at the top of Sampson's list
Dave, as I just explained to my buddy (huge Johnies fan) I think Moe stays now. He can now develop at the 3 in college, instead of in the NBA. A starting lineup of Branch, Harrison, Moe, Sampson and for now Amir is insane. Moe will get a lot better from this, his draft stock will go even higher, and we will be very happy fans!
Not true. There is a reason why Snow got the scoop, he's a Brewster alum. He was very much in the loop. A lot of people were pushing JaKarr in opposite directions but JaKarr and his family wanted St. John's.
This helps in St. John's favor for Moe but ultimately won't prevent him leaving.
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Was never a question, really. REALLY.
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Hahhaa Choz you saying you knew this was a done deal a week ago!!! Regardless, happy Jakar came back on board. In Lav I trust!
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People are shocked that he re-committed here. Interesting.
Brian Snow @BSnowScout Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I can't remember the last time I was as shocked in a decision as I am in this one. No one was thinking Red Storm for Sampson
I saw that too and was confused. I figured a guy like snow would be more in the loop. it was no secret we were always at the top of Sampson's list
Not true. There is a reason why Snow got the scoop, he's a Brewster alum. He was very much in the loop. A lot of people were pushing JaKarr in opposite directions but JaKarr and his family wanted St. John's.
This helps in St. John's favor for Moe but ultimately won't prevent him leaving.
was that final trip back to Ohio the deciding factor ?
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
No word from Jason Smith's twitter?
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Pelle is next :P
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
No word from Jason Smith's twitter?
Yes he just tweeted his congrats to Jakarr on his commitment.
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
No word from Jason Smith's twitter?
Caught this:
Jason Smith @BrewsterHoops
Congratulations to #Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 on his decision to re-commit to #StJohns
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I am speechless. I figured there was no way he came back. If mo comes back, which I think he should given the paucity of 3s in the draft this year, this is a team that has a chance to make a lot of noise.
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why isn't JaKarr listed on the ESPNU Top 100?
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I am speechless. I figured there was no way he came back. If mo comes back, which I think he should given the paucity of 3s in the draft this year, this is a team that has a chance to make a lot of noise.
still could use a big, but yeah, this team is looking solid. hopefully Jakarr can get some guys to join him
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Welcome aboard Jakarr!!! - I wish you nothing but the best.
-In Lavin We Trust
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why isn't JaKarr listed on the ESPNU Top 100?
He was last year but he's a prep player now
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
Well, I don't believe he's as happy as he would be if he went elsewhere, but at least he's not being a tool about it on twitter.
No word from Jason Smith's twitter?
Caught this:
Jason Smith @BrewsterHoops
Congratulations to #Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 on his decision to re-commit to #StJohns
Well, I don't believe he's as happy as he would be if he went elsewhere, but at least he's not being a tool about it on twitter.
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Morris, and 2 bigs would be legendary
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why isn't JaKarr listed on the ESPNU Top 100?
He was last year but he's a prep player now
Yea I get that...alright...well where do you guys think he ranks amongst the incoming class? top 30? higher?
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why isn't JaKarr listed on the ESPNU Top 100?
He was last year but he's a prep player now
Yea I get that...alright...well where do you guys think he ranks amongst the incoming class? top 30? higher?
I don't understand the rankings...this kid is a surefire first round pick at some point. I haven't seen all of the top 25 play, but basing it off of past year's where I've seen almost all of the top 25 play...I'd say Sampson is clearly a top 25 player this year with the extra year of working on his game and body and playing at the absolute highest level of prep basketball in the country.
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why isn't JaKarr listed on the ESPNU Top 100?
He was last year but he's a prep player now
Yea I get that...alright...well where do you guys think he ranks amongst the incoming class? top 30? higher?
His teammates TJ Warren & Mitch McGarry are ranked 29 & 22 respectively. IMO he's better then both I think he fits around the 15-20 range
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Who cares about rankings! The kid's a stud.
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Let's hope that Ricardo Gathers corrects the mistake he made by committing to Baylor and changes his commit to St. john's.
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
Well, I don't believe he's as happy as he would be if he went elsewhere, but at least he's not being a tool about it on twitter.
No word from Jason Smith's twitter?
Caught this:
Jason Smith @BrewsterHoops
Congratulations to #Brewster forward @KarrSampson14 on his decision to re-commit to #StJohns
Well, I don't believe he's as happy as he would be if he went elsewhere, but at least he's not being a tool about it on twitter.
Seems like it deserves an exclamation point, no? Seriously, though, if he continues to bring top talent to Brewster, he better be prepared to see a fair share of them come our way! ;D
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Let's hope that Ricardo Gathers corrects the mistake he made by committing to Baylor and changes his commit to St. john's.
Forget Ricardo Gathers... Here's to Jakarr dunking all over Ricardo Gathers. Jakarr's heart was always with SJU. Now he's back and it will be worth it for both he and SJU. HUGE commit for Lavin and SJU. Keep em coming Lavs... Hammer to Rock!
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Wow didn't see this coming a Knick win and Sampson I am hype
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
Everything is flat in Kansas.
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Let's hope that Ricardo Gathers corrects the mistake he made by committing to Baylor and changes his commit to St. john's.
Cal to Knicks | Drew to Kentucky | Gathers rethinks Baylor ;D
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
Everything is flat in Kansas.
Not the women. ;D
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@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
Everything is flat in Kansas.
Not the women. ;D
@AdamZagoria
Don Anderson on @KarrSampson14 " New York was the place he wanted to be."
Everything is flat in Kansas.
Not the women. ;D
Yeah, "rotund" is more fitting.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/14/jakarr-sampson-headed-back-to-st-johns/#more-69609 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/14/jakarr-sampson-headed-back-to-st-johns/#more-69609)
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Yeah, "rotund" is more fitting.
Nothing worse than a flat rotund woman. ;D
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I especially like the timing -- before Harkless declares. In his mind he may have already done so, but maybe this prompts him to rethink.
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Welcome back Jakarr!!! Lavin is a force of nature. Getting Morris and Obekpa would be ridiculous, especially when you think about where we stood a month ago on the recruiting trail. Can't wait until next season!
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Between, Dom, Amir, Felix , and Jakarr who has the most hops?
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Yeah, "rotund" is more fitting.
Nothing worse than a flat rotund woman. ;D
1 thing worse... Put her in a medium t-shirt!
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Between, Dom, Amir, Felix , and Jakarr who has the most hops?
Tough one... Maybe Jakarr, but Felix is ridiculous as well. The athleticism of our team is off the hook.
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Between, Dom, Amir, Felix , and Jakarr who has the most hops?
Tough one... Maybe Jakarr, but Felix is ridiculous as well. The athleticism of our team is off the hook.
Exactly !
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Yeah, "rotund" is more fitting.
Nothing worse than a flat rotund woman. ;D
1 thing worse... Put her in a medium t-shirt!
Are you making fun of my ex-wife? (Given tonight's good news, I'll let it slide.)
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Between, Dom, Amir, Felix , and Jakarr who has the most hops?
Tough one... Maybe Jakarr, but Felix is ridiculous as well. The athleticism of our team is off the hook.
Exactly !
All three of our new addition will fit our pressing style to a T. Morris doesnt look like a slouch athlete either and is rather long. Add in obekpa as our safety net to protect the rim and were really rolling!
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This video is great for us, as it confirms we are firmly in the hunt: he's "bonded" with our guys, [size=14pt]D'Lo, Moe and him can be deadly, still could do something "special" together[/size]. Kansas fans (not the team) got a lot of love, and Cooley was called a clown three or four times. Who knows what Jakarr ultimately decides, but after this video, you really have to like our chances.
When I read this I knew we had him. The "still could do something special together" quote refers to if Moe stays.
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What is the main Providence fan board? I'd like to hear what they are saying.
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What is the main Providence fan board? I'd like to hear what they are saying.
Came up with this:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323)
Can't say it's their main board. Any one else?
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Was carlos Morris offered? On rivals it says he wasn't. I hope we didn't offer his ship to hall.
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Was carlos Morris offered? On rivals it says he wasn't. I hope we didn't offer his ship to hall.
I've heard he was offered. More than that, I heard we're likely to land him.
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Was carlos Morris offered? On rivals it says he wasn't. I hope we didn't offer his ship to hall.
I've heard he was offered. More than that, I heard we're likely to land him.
Sounds great , just checkinh
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Big ups to Coach Lav on this one. This is a huge recommitment! I just hope Moe comes back so we can make some real noise next year!
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I would like to start a petition for the reinstatement of Lapchick1, so we can torture him with this good news and the good news to follow.
Can I get an amen?
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Amen! :crazy2:
Discount double check! I mean commit :uglystupid2:
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I would like to start a petition for the reinstatement of Lapchick1, so we can torture him with this good news and the good news to follow.
Can I get an amen?
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion!You Kool-Aid drinkers make me sick. We still need six big men and three more point guards. Where are they? It's already close to May, and we have no one. We suck, and we will continue to suck for years to come. I am Christ, your lord and savior, but will anyone listen to me? No!
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Great job Jakarr!!! Now if Moe came back next year it would be sweet to play baylor and go up against gathers in the charleston classic.
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This is exactly what the doctor ordered. Jakarr you're a man of your word and we are all grateful to have you.
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Welcome, Jakarr!!!
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welcome!!! the losing streak is over...thank you jakarr!!!
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I would like to start a petition for the reinstatement of Lapchick1, so we can torture him with this good news and the good news to follow.
Can I get an amen?
That's the last time I go to sleep early. Certainly did not expect to wake up to this news. Fantastic way to start the day! And yes, I wish Lapchick1 was here to "relish" in the good news.
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Great news! Now get a big and we're on our way
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I feel like a kid at X-Mas. I wake up this morning and March Madness is about to start, so it's a great day, just like X-Mas morning. But then...I walk down stairs and there is the brand new bike (Jakarr) I wanted!!!
Major props to Lavin and staff on this one. I have to admit, I questioned weather they could pull this off. What we have all learned...have faith in Lav boys...have faith!!!
Oh...and Moe....please stay!!!
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why isn't JaKarr listed on the ESPNU Top 100?
He was last year but he's a prep player now
Yea I get that...alright...well where do you guys think he ranks amongst the incoming class? top 30? higher?
His teammates TJ Warren & Mitch McGarry are ranked 29 & 22 respectively. IMO he's better then both I think he fits around the 15-20 range
Interesting discussion. TJ, Karr, Mitch would be my order.
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Much love and respect to the coaches,the players and everyone involved with the recruitment of JaKarr. Way to stick with it through the twists and turns and much love to JaKarr for loyalty.
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I would like to start a petition for the reinstatement of Lapchick1, so we can torture him with this good news and the good news to follow.
Can I get an amen?
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion!You Kool-Aid drinkers make me sick. We still need six big men and three more point guards. Where are they? It's already close to May, and we have no one. We suck, and we will continue to suck for years to come. I am Christ, your lord and savior, but will anyone listen to me? No!
LMAO. Still shaking my head in amazement that the crazy SOB compared himself to Jesus. The battle for second place in the Post of the Year category began that very day.
Half a day later and I'm still stoked about getting JaKarr. C'mon Moe....stick around for the fun!
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This was some great news to wake up to. Lavin wasn't kidding about this class. I'm feeling real good about next season.
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I'll never doubt Lavin again.
JaKarr Sampson Comes Back to St. John's! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk6pKeEN09g#ws)
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Told you so guys!!!
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Told you so guys!!!
Next prognostication? :)
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Told you so guys!!!
Next prognostication? :)
As noted by Dave, Morris. Obekpa, my friend is a bit doubtful about, FWIW.
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Told you so guys!!!
Next prognostication? :)
As noted by Dave, Morris. Obekpa, my friend is a bit doubtful about, FWIW.
I'm with you
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Just picked this piece up on one of the Providence message boards. Very interesting insight into Jakarr's state of mind following his failure to qualify last year.
Sampson reunited and it feels so good
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Twitter was popping shortly after South Florida took apart California. The cause? Jakarr Sampson (Akron, Ohio/Brewster Prep) reached a decision. A decision that caught many – myself included – by surprise.
After saying on March 9 that he was locked into visiting Florida and Providence, Sampson ended his recruitment with the school he began it with. St. John’s is the final destination for this springy combo forward who hails from the high school LeBron James attended.
“Coach [Steve] Lavin has love for me,” Sampson said. “I felt that. I bonded with those players when I committed last year, and it was hard leaving them.”
Sampson said recently he was into Kansas, Baylor and Florida, and reiterated that Providence coach Ed Cooley outworked a lot of people. Regardless, Lavin has his man. Lavin worked hard to regain the pledge. St. John’s lost Sampson when he failed to qualify last fall.
“When I left Brewster, St. John’s was the last thing on my mind,” Sampson said. “I was blaming them for me not qualifying, but that was wrong. I was just upset.”
There’s buzz that freshman Mo Harkless may explore his NBA options and check his draft stock. Sampson thinks that will happen, but regardless of whether Harkless is in a Red Storm jersey or not, he's coming to Jamaica.
“Even if I thought he was staying, I would still have come,” Sampson said.
Sampson’s commitment is significant for the Red Storm. He’ll enter the program next year with a year of prep under his belt. Athletically he’ll be at the top of the charts in the Big East. Much will be expected.
Earlier in the week, Lavin landed combo guard Felix Balamou (Centereach, N.Y./Our Savior).
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Just picked this piece up on one of the Providence message boards. Very interesting insight into Jakarr's state of mind following his failure to qualify last year.
Sampson reunited and it feels so good
March, 15, 2012
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Twitter was popping shortly after South Florida took apart California. The cause? Jakarr Sampson (Akron, Ohio/Brewster Prep) reached a decision. A decision that caught many – myself included – by surprise.
After saying on March 9 that he was locked into visiting Florida and Providence, Sampson ended his recruitment with the school he began it with. St. John’s is the final destination for this springy combo forward who hails from the high school LeBron James attended.
“Coach [Steve] Lavin has love for me,” Sampson said. “I felt that. I bonded with those players when I committed last year, and it was hard leaving them.”
Sampson said recently he was into Kansas, Baylor and Florida, and reiterated that Providence coach Ed Cooley outworked a lot of people. Regardless, Lavin has his man. Lavin worked hard to regain the pledge. St. John’s lost Sampson when he failed to qualify last fall.
“When I left Brewster, St. John’s was the last thing on my mind,” Sampson said. “I was blaming them for me not qualifying, but that was wrong. I was just upset.”
There’s buzz that freshman Mo Harkless may explore his NBA options and check his draft stock. Sampson thinks that will happen, but regardless of whether Harkless is in a Red Storm jersey or not, he's coming to Jamaica.
“Even if I thought he was staying, I would still have come,” Sampson said.
Sampson’s commitment is significant for the Red Storm. He’ll enter the program next year with a year of prep under his belt. Athletically he’ll be at the top of the charts in the Big East. Much will be expected.
Earlier in the week, Lavin landed combo guard Felix Balamou (Centereach, N.Y./Our Savior).
Yeah that is Dave Telep's blog from ESPN.
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“Coach [Steve] Lavin has love for me,” Sampson said. “I felt that. I bonded with those players when I committed last year, and it was hard leaving them.”
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welcome back jakarr!!
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way to go JaKarr; welcome to the Big City. looking forward to next year.
the video posted by redmen4life is great--only wish it was longer
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Huge news!!!
If Moe stays next years lineup is gonna be crazy.
Phil/Jamal, Dee, Moe, Karr, GG with Dom, Amir and Felix coming off the bench. Just imagine if Pelle was eligible too
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People are shocked that he re-committed here. Interesting.
Brian Snow @BSnowScout Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
I can't remember the last time I was as shocked in a decision as I am in this one. No one was thinking Red Storm for Sampson
I saw that too and was confused. I figured a guy like snow would be more in the loop. it was no secret we were always at the top of Sampson's list
Not true. There is a reason why Snow got the scoop, he's a Brewster alum. He was very much in the loop. A lot of people were pushing JaKarr in opposite directions but JaKarr and his family wanted St. John's.
This helps in St. John's favor for Moe but ultimately won't prevent him leaving.
Dave, are you saying Moe is leaving, or that the Jakarr signing won't play a role either way in his decision.
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Thank you JaKarr. Your loyalty is appreciated. You'll have a great time in NYC and SJU
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“Coach [Steve] Lavin has love for me,” Sampson said. “I felt that. I bonded with those players when I committed last year, and it was hard leaving them.”
Sampson said recently he was into Kansas, Baylor and Florida, and reiterated that Providence coach Ed Cooley outworked a lot of people. Regardless, Lavin has his man. Lavin worked hard to regain the pledge. St. John’s lost Sampson when he failed to qualify last fall.
“When I left Brewster, St. John’s was the last thing on my mind,” Sampson said. “I was blaming them for me not qualifying, but that was wrong. I was just upset.”
For me, thats the most encouraging part of the piece. Nice to see a kid mature and introspective enough to get past the initial reaction, look in the mirror and take responsibility.
Part of the reason I like this team so much- just as much as their on court ability- is because I like these kids as people...they seem like mature, high character kids. Sounds like JaKarr will fit right in.
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http://espn.go.com/newyork/conversations/_/id/7689201/st-john-red-storm-land-prized-basketball-recruit-jakarr-sampson (http://espn.go.com/newyork/conversations/_/id/7689201/st-john-red-storm-land-prized-basketball-recruit-jakarr-sampson)
Lots of harsh comments, as expected I guess.
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Snow and Daniels have been insisting several times because of certain people around JaKarr that him going back to SJU after de-committing was a longshot. I can post tweets and other posts of theirs from scout.com even as they consistently listed SJU as a possibility.
JaKarr's heart was always with SJU.
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Wonder if Jakarr and especially Lavin timed the announcement to coincide with the beginning of the NCAA T to give Johhnie fans something to cheer about. Either way great news and thank-you to coach for sticking with this kid and putting in the hard work it took to keep him. PS Believe Jakarr's interest in Providence was just him CLOWNING around.
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Wonder if Jakarr and especially Lavin timed the announcement to coincide with the beginning of the NCAA T to give Johhnie fans something to cheer about. Either way great news and thank-you to coach for sticking with this kid and putting in the hard work it took to keep him. PS Believe Jakarr's interest in Providence was just him CLOWNING around.
i don't want to sound disrespectful to Cooley, cause he sounds like a good dude, but after our experience with Norm, it sounds like a lot of guys from the New England area list PC because it's the local school. Don't think any high ranked players seriously consider PC. it's more of a PR move on the player's part.
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Wonder if Jakarr and especially Lavin timed the announcement to coincide with the beginning of the NCAA T to give Johhnie fans something to cheer about. Either way great news and thank-you to coach for sticking with this kid and putting in the hard work it took to keep him. PS Believe Jakarr's interest in Providence was just him CLOWNING around.
i don't want to sound disrespectful to Cooley, cause he sounds like a good dude, but after our experience with Norm, it sounds like a lot of guys from the New England area list PC because it's the local school. Don't think any high ranked players seriously consider PC. it's more of a PR move on the player's part.
He has one of the best pt guards and a top 10 recruit coming in Kris Dunn. They also have Ledo who is very highly rated (he is a Providence local so that played a pretty probably played a big part in him going there).
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Eric Bossi of Rivals.com has some nice quotes. It's funny I always liked Applebees:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1343581 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1343581)
"They always had my heart," Sampson told Rivals.com of St. John's. "Even when I left my heart was still there. I got to know the coaches, the players and I couldn't leave them like that because my heart is still with them."
Sampson's summer coach Don Anderson of the King James Shooting Stars echoed his player's thoughts. He also said how long St. John's has been involved and Sampson's opportunity to make an impact were key.
"It's about the fit and the style of play for him," said Anderson. "It's how he can become an impact player in that system.
"St. John's has been doing it for two years. It's a place where his heart was at last year and it was unfortunate that he wasn't able to perform for them this year. He saw a rebound here or a blocked shot there that he could have made and felt that he could have helped this year."
According to Sampson, he met last night with his mother and Anderson to discuss his next step and the decision just came to him.
"We were at Applebee's eating and we were talking about some things," said Sampson. "We thought St. John's was the best fit and I called them up while we were coming up back home."
Not surprisingly, Sampson's future coach was excited about the news.
"Coach Lav was shocked and he said he got goose bumps," said Sampson. "It was big. He was happy, I was happy."
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Eric Bossi of Rivals.com has some nice quotes. It's funny I always liked Applebees:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1343581 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1343581)
"They always had my heart," Sampson told Rivals.com of St. John's. "Even when I left my heart was still there. I got to know the coaches, the players and I couldn't leave them like that because my heart is still with them."
Sampson's summer coach Don Anderson of the King James Shooting Stars echoed his player's thoughts. He also said how long St. John's has been involved and Sampson's opportunity to make an impact were key.
"It's about the fit and the style of play for him," said Anderson. "It's how he can become an impact player in that system.
"St. John's has been doing it for two years. It's a place where his heart was at last year and it was unfortunate that he wasn't able to perform for them this year. He saw a rebound here or a blocked shot there that he could have made and felt that he could have helped this year."
According to Sampson, he met last night with his mother and Anderson to discuss his next step and the decision just came to him.
"We were at Applebee's eating and we were talking about some things," said Sampson. "We thought St. John's was the best fit and I called them up while we were coming up back home."
Not surprisingly, Sampson's future coach was excited about the news.
"Coach Lav was shocked and he said he got goose bumps," said Sampson. "It was big. He was happy, I was happy."
Cool article from Bossi. Interesting to read that Coach was "shocked" to get the call. I wonder if he was he shocked over receiving the call itself, the timing of it, or if he was just saying that as a reaction to the moment?
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i think shocked at the timing of it. sounds like Lav was caught off guard.
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Sampson's pledge means more this time By Adam Finkelstein
With questions about Lavin’s future at St. John's swirling due to his health and his recruiting collateral falling in direct correlation, Sampson’s second commitment is nothing short of huge for St. John’s.
Not only is Sampson coming off a big season at Brewster Academy, where he took home both NEPSAC AAA Player of the Year honors and the National Prep Championship MVP, but he’s also one of the best available players left on the board in the country. Plus, he's the type of guy who is capable of coming in and making an instant impact.
Equally important, is the effect this commitment has on St. John’s recruiting profile. The Johnnies were widely perceived to be out of Sampson’s recruitment. Lavin wasn’t nearly as visible as he was at the beginning of the season, Sampson had just taken a trip to Kansas, and had said he planned to see both Providence and Florida before making a decision.
Sampson’s commitment gives St. John’s a huge boost of momentum and sends a statement about its ability to still recruit at a high level. It also may be added motivation for Christopher Obekpa (Centereach, N.Y./Our Savior New America), Lavin’s biggest remaining target in the Class of 2012 and Balamou’s high school teammate.
If Lavin were somehow able to land both Sampson and Obekpa, St. John’s class would instantly be elevated to among the best in the entire Big East and Lavin would be credited for rebuilding St. John’s talent base for a second time in just two years.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=1673 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=1673)
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Lavin made a statement. It's one thing to get a player that a program like Kansas has interest in, it's another take the player from Kansas after they had rolled out the red carpet on an official visit.
He went to Lawrence for the highest ranked opponent they played all year, in the most exciting game they played all year, and he saw al the Sampson signs, got all the tweets, and even saw a #14 Sampson KU jersey...but he commits to St. John's.
I know Rupp Arena and Phog Allen are amazing arenas and always filled to capacity, but when Madison Square Garden is rocking there simply is no place in the world that can compare:
St. John's vs. Pittsburgh Madison Square Garden: Dwight Hardy Game-Winning Layup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxlbjXu1FuE#)
Goosebumps.Every.Time.
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Anyone have any links to the KU or Providence fan forums? I would like to read their reactions to Jakarr coming to the Johnnies.
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Hey guys I just wanted to say congrats on the Jakarr commitment. I think he has a nice career ahead of him. I'm glad to see Lavin hasn't lost his recruiting touch even after everything hes been through
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+ infinity
(without fail i get goosebumps when that buzzer sounds)
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Hey guys I just wanted to say congrats on the Jakarr commitment. I think he has a nice career ahead of him. I'm glad to see Lavin hasn't lost his recruiting touch even after everything hes been through
Very classy.
And I saw a Kansas fan tweet to JaKarr congrats, very nice.
Also interesting to see that Norvel tweeted to JaKarr about re-upping with SJU.
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i don't want to sound disrespectful to Cooley, cause he sounds like a good dude, but after our experience with Norm, it sounds like a lot of guys from the New England area list PC because it's the local school. Don't think any high ranked players seriously consider PC. it's more of a PR move on the player's part.
Its comments like this that make posters lose credibility.
Providence has a Top 10 class coming in and that doesn't including getting Sidiki Johnson
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i don't want to sound disrespectful to Cooley, cause he sounds like a good dude, but after our experience with Norm, it sounds like a lot of guys from the New England area list PC because it's the local school. Don't think any high ranked players seriously consider PC. it's more of a PR move on the player's part.
Its comments like this that make posters lose credibility.
Right on point
Providence has a Top 10 class coming in and that doesn't including getting Sidiki Johnson
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surprised I haven't seen "welcome" tweets from current team members. Or have I just missed them on the 20 new pages of posts? :)
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I've been on vacation and without internet service, so I just saw the news...
Great job by Lavin and Chiles!
Keep 'em coming guys and hopefully Moe returns.
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Is it official, did he sign?
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surprised I haven't seen "welcome" tweets from current team members. Or have I just missed them on the 20 new pages of posts? :)
don't think it's allowed until he signs right(?)
besides from what sju79 said a week or so ago, i think the current team was working on JKS behind the scenes.
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Is it official, did he sign?
Can't sign until signing period, which is next month sometime I believe.
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Is it official, did he sign?
Can't sign until signing period, which is next month sometime I believe.
April 11.
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one thing that i love about all the quotes i've read from JKS and his AAU coach, is that not once have they mentioned playing time. i love how JKS feels a strong bond with coach, staff, and team. and he feels that this staff can develop him for the next level. it's deeper than playing time for JKS.
i feel so good about our future. good players will want to come b/c of our staff. not just pt.
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surprised I haven't seen "welcome" tweets from current team members. Or have I just missed them on the 20 new pages of posts? :)
It's dumb, but that is a violation
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one thing that i love about all the quotes i've read from JKS and his AAU coach, is that not once have they mentioned playing time. i love how JKS feels a strong bond with coach, staff, and team. and he feels that this staff can develop him for the next level. it's deeper than playing time for JKS.
i feel so good about our future. good players will want to come b/c of our staff. not just pt.
So true
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Is it official, did he sign?
Can't sign until signing period, which is next month sometime I believe.
April 11.
Crossing my fingers, thanks.
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Is it official, did he sign?
Can't sign until signing period, which is next month sometime I believe.
April 11.
Crossing my fingers, thanks.
Seriously?
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Great News!!!!! Welcome aboard!
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one thing that i love about all the quotes i've read from JKS and his AAU coach, is that not once have they mentioned playing time. i love how JKS feels a strong bond with coach, staff, and team. and he feels that this staff can develop him for the next level. it's deeper than playing time for JKS.
i feel so good about our future. good players will want to come b/c of our staff. not just pt.
The first time around, his AAU coach said he'd play center if he had to, he'd do anything to help the team, etc.
Winning is obviously his main concern. That said, he knows he's getting 30 min. a night minimum. Probably not at the position he wants to be at, but he's all about the team.
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you know things are going well, when NY Magazine writes about us:
http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/03/jakarr-sampson-re-commits-to-st-johns.html (http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/03/jakarr-sampson-re-commits-to-st-johns.html)
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Lavin made a statement. It's one thing to get a player that a program like Kansas has interest in, it's another take the player from Kansas after they had rolled out the red carpet on an official visit.
He went to Lawrence for the highest ranked opponent they played all year, in the most exciting game they played all year, and he saw al the Sampson signs, got all the tweets, and even saw a #14 Sampson KU jersey...but he commits to St. John's.
I know Rupp Arena and Phog Allen are amazing arenas and always filled to capacity, but when Madison Square Garden is rocking there simply is no place in the world that can compare:
St. John's vs. Pittsburgh Madison Square Garden: Dwight Hardy Game-Winning Layup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxlbjXu1FuE#)
Goosebumps.Every.Time.
If we are going to rise to the level that coach Lavin and the fan base envisions we are going to have to and expect to out recruit the big boys at least once and awhile. KU is loaded and we already had a prior commitment from Jakarr so while it is a great day for the Johnnies it should not be considered that amazing or surprising. When and if we start getting top 10 recruits that will truly be an incredible accomplishment.
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Lavin made a statement. It's one thing to get a player that a program like Kansas has interest in, it's another take the player from Kansas after they had rolled out the red carpet on an official visit.
He went to Lawrence for the highest ranked opponent they played all year, in the most exciting game they played all year, and he saw al the Sampson signs, got all the tweets, and even saw a #14 Sampson KU jersey...but he commits to St. John's.
I know Rupp Arena and Phog Allen are amazing arenas and always filled to capacity, but when Madison Square Garden is rocking there simply is no place in the world that can compare:
St. John's vs. Pittsburgh Madison Square Garden: Dwight Hardy Game-Winning Layup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxlbjXu1FuE#)
Goosebumps.Every.Time.
If we are going to rise to the level that coach Lavin and the fan base envisions we are going to have to and expect to out recruit the big boys at least once and awhile. KU is loaded and we already had a prior commitment from Jakarr so while it is a great day for the Johnnies it should not be considered that amazing or surprising. When and if we start getting top 10 recruits that will truly be an incredible accomplishment.
Well the so called experts were very surprised that Jakarr committed.
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Lavin made a statement. It's one thing to get a player that a program like Kansas has interest in, it's another take the player from Kansas after they had rolled out the red carpet on an official visit.
He went to Lawrence for the highest ranked opponent they played all year, in the most exciting game they played all year, and he saw al the Sampson signs, got all the tweets, and even saw a #14 Sampson KU jersey...but he commits to St. John's.
I know Rupp Arena and Phog Allen are amazing arenas and always filled to capacity, but when Madison Square Garden is rocking there simply is no place in the world that can compare:
St. John's vs. Pittsburgh Madison Square Garden: Dwight Hardy Game-Winning Layup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxlbjXu1FuE#)
Goosebumps.Every.Time.
If we are going to rise to the level that coach Lavin and the fan base envisions we are going to have to and expect to out recruit the big boys at least once and awhile. KU is loaded and we already had a prior commitment from Jakarr so while it is a great day for the Johnnies it should not be considered that amazing or surprising. When and if we start getting top 10 recruits that will truly be an incredible accomplishment.
Well the so called experts were very surprised that Jakarr committed.
Missing my point. It is about recruiting success against the big boys not this specific recruit.
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Don't know if posted, but a nice touch by a nice kid!
“@DanielJMartin_: For #STJbb fans, JaKarr Sampson posted this video on his Facebook http://t.co/Gr6NHiQC (http://t.co/Gr6NHiQC) "Coming Home"”
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Lavin made a statement. It's one thing to get a player that a program like Kansas has interest in, it's another take the player from Kansas after they had rolled out the red carpet on an official visit.
He went to Lawrence for the highest ranked opponent they played all year, in the most exciting game they played all year, and he saw al the Sampson signs, got all the tweets, and even saw a #14 Sampson KU jersey...but he commits to St. John's.
I know Rupp Arena and Phog Allen are amazing arenas and always filled to capacity, but when Madison Square Garden is rocking there simply is no place in the world that can compare:
St. John's vs. Pittsburgh Madison Square Garden: Dwight Hardy Game-Winning Layup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxlbjXu1FuE#)
Goosebumps.Every.Time.
If we are going to rise to the level that coach Lavin and the fan base envisions we are going to have to and expect to out recruit the big boys at least once and awhile. KU is loaded and we already had a prior commitment from Jakarr so while it is a great day for the Johnnies it should not be considered that amazing or surprising. When and if we start getting top 10 recruits that will truly be an incredible accomplishment.
Well the so called experts were very surprised that Jakarr committed.
Missing my point. It is about recruiting success against the big boys not this specific recruit.
You said "KU is loaded and we already had a prior commitment from Jakarr so while it is a great day for the Johnnies it should not be considered that amazing or surprising."
Right now its both of those things to a lot of experts and the bball community who thought we were left for dead. I do agree with you that down the road it won't be. We won't be the little engine that could. We will be going blow for blow with these big schools. I wasn't trying to dissect your post just wanted to put it clearly in context that we did amaze and surprise a lot of ppl pulling Jakarr back into the fold.
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Maybe many people were surprised but the people in the know on this board (and I exclude myself from that description) were pretty confident we would resign Jakarr.
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Wow pretty cool, guys like Amir, D'lo and Dom all display a passion for St John's and coach and now add Jakarr. Without a doubt we are headed in the right direction.
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Don't know if posted, but a nice touch by a nice kid!
“@DanielJMartin_: For #STJbb fans, JaKarr Sampson posted this video on his Facebook http://t.co/Gr6NHiQC (http://t.co/Gr6NHiQC) "Coming Home"”
Wow! This video just says it all. So glad JaKarr is "coming home".
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Maybe many people were surprised but the people in the know on this board (and I exclude myself from that description) were pretty confident we would resign Jakarr.
What about the first time we recruited Jakarr? Some big boys were after him then? Moe Harkless was a Uconn verbal, we seemed to compete fine with those big boys? All of last years recruiting class, sans Greene, were recruited by "big boys". Sorry, i'm just missing the point here..
Lavin has already proven he can recruit with anyone in the country, let's not downplay it. You've been hanging out with your boy, "Shurina Cheese" again lately?
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Don't know if posted, but a nice touch by a nice kid!
“@DanielJMartin_: For #STJbb fans, JaKarr Sampson posted this video on his Facebook http://t.co/Gr6NHiQC (http://t.co/Gr6NHiQC) "Coming Home"”
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Wow. Gotta love this kid. Thanks JKS, feeling is mutual. This is all Lavin.]
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JaKarr Sampson Comes Back to St. John's! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk6pKeEN09g#ws)
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JaKarr Sampson Comes Back to St. John's! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk6pKeEN09g#ws)
awesome
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BTW-Now you now why JaKarr was never enrolled at SJU. Would never have been allowed to come back to SJU or Providence for that matter because of Big East rules on non-qualifiers.
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JaKarr Sampson Comes Back to St. John's! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk6pKeEN09g#ws)
Such a touching video and shows what a great, great recruit we have in Jakarr. Another kid with great character and great heart who really wants to be here. It's great to have him back and I wish him great success here.
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JaKarr Sampson Comes Back to St. John's! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk6pKeEN09g#ws)
Such a touching video and shows what a great, great recruit we have in Jakarr. Another kid with great character and great heart who really wants to be here. It's great to have him back and I wish him great success here.
It would have been very special to see him and Moe on the court at same time.
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JaKarr Sampson Comes Back to St. John's! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk6pKeEN09g#ws)
Such a touching video and shows what a great, great recruit we have in Jakarr. Another kid with great character and great heart who really wants to be here. It's great to have him back and I wish him great success here.
It would have been very special to see him and Moe on the court at same time.
=1
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Still could happen...
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BTW-Now you now why JaKarr was never enrolled at SJU. Would never have been allowed to come back to SJU or Providence for that matter because of Big East rules on non-qualifiers.
Who made that awful rule?
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BTW-Now you now why JaKarr was never enrolled at SJU. Would never have been allowed to come back to SJU or Providence for that matter because of Big East rules on non-qualifiers.
Who made that awful rule?
Sorry if I missed this but are you saying that you cannot re recruit your own guy and/or another BE schools guy who enrolled but then was declared academically ineligible ?
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BTW-Now you now why JaKarr was never enrolled at SJU. Would never have been allowed to come back to SJU or Providence for that matter because of Big East rules on non-qualifiers.
Who made that awful rule?
Sorry if I missed this but are you saying that you cannot re recruit your own guy and/or another BE schools guy who enrolled but then was declared academically ineligible ?
Yes I believe that is what happened with Derwin Kitchen
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BTW-Now you now why JaKarr was never enrolled at SJU. Would never have been allowed to come back to SJU or Providence for that matter because of Big East rules on non-qualifiers.
Who made that awful rule?
Sorry if I missed this but are you saying that you cannot re recruit your own guy and/or another BE schools guy who enrolled but then was declared academically ineligible ?
Yes I believe that is what happened with Derwin Kitchen
Mike Glover as well.
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BTW-Now you now why JaKarr was never enrolled at SJU. Would never have been allowed to come back to SJU or Providence for that matter because of Big East rules on non-qualifiers.
Who made that awful rule?
Sorry if I missed this but are you saying that you cannot re recruit your own guy and/or another BE schools guy who enrolled but then was declared academically ineligible ?
Yes I believe that is what happened with Derwin Kitchen
Mike Glover as well.
Darnel Dodson of Pitt-2007 is actually the best example. After withdrawing from Pitt in October after failing to qualify he went to Miami for JUCO got qualified and wanted to go back to Pitt but could not. Ended up at Memphis.
Bottom line is if you enroll a kid who has not cleared yet you are rolling the dice.
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The Big 12 has a similar rule and there was the crazy case of Roburt Sallie.
In 2006 Sallie was set to go to Nebraska. He was decalred a NQ and so he went to JUCO in San Fran. He recommitted to Nebraska and was set to go starting in 2008. Right? Wrong.
It turns out he was enrolled at Nebraska for about 48 hours back in 2006 when he first signed with them. He never went to a class. It was such a short time he did not even know he was technically enrolled. Because of this he was not allowed to go back to Nebraska. They even appealed and he was denied the appeal by the Big 12. He ended up at Memphis.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/jun/16/tigers-get-basketball-commitment-6-5-guard-sallie/ (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/jun/16/tigers-get-basketball-commitment-6-5-guard-sallie/)
Sallie was set to go to Nebraska out of prep school but had to go to junior college when he failed to qualify. He kept his commitment, but because he had already been enrolled there once before, a Big 12 rule technicality prevented him from enrolling a second time within the same 18-month window.
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Maybe many people were surprised but the people in the know on this board (and I exclude myself from that description) were pretty confident we would resign Jakarr.
What about the first time we recruited Jakarr? Some big boys were after him then? Moe Harkless was a Uconn verbal, we seemed to compete fine with those big boys? All of last years recruiting class, sans Greene, were recruited by "big boys". Sorry, i'm just missing the point here..
Lavin has already proven he can recruit with anyone in the country, let's not downplay it. You've been hanging out with your boy, "Shurina Cheese" again lately?
You're right. You missed my point.
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From watching videos - it's clear his talent is through the roof. The one thing that bothers me is his jump shot release. The way he holds his hands/form doesn't look fluid. I think he'll have to work on the jumper, just something that stood out from watching the tapes.
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From watching videos - it's clear his talent is through the roof. The one thing that bothers me is his jump shot release. The way he holds his hands/form doesn't look fluid. I think he'll have to work on the jumper, just something that stood out from watching the tapes.
One thing I will never get is why form matters. If it works why does it matter. ESPN Magazine wrote a great article recently about how more struggling FT shooters should shoot underhand. However that will never happene because it would ruin street cred.
I've watched Karr a lot over the last two years. This year there was considerable improvement in his jumper versus his first year at Brewster.
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From watching videos - it's clear his talent is through the roof. The one thing that bothers me is his jump shot release. The way he holds his hands/form doesn't look fluid. I think he'll have to work on the jumper, just something that stood out from watching the tapes.
One thing I will never get is why form matters. If it works why does it matter. ESPN Magazine wrote a great article recently about how more struggling FT shooters should shoot underhand. However that will never happene because it would ruin street cred.
I've watched Karr a lot over the last two years. This year there was considerable improvement in his jumper versus his first year at Brewster.
Well, I thank J Smith 4 all the fine work he put in on, I mean with JaKarr...
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“@Amir_Garrett: happy birthday to my bro @KarrSampson14 can't wait till you get here bro #stjbb” thanks bro.. I can't wait either
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This might be the best athlete in colleg basketball next season.
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“@Amir_Garrett: happy birthday to my bro @KarrSampson14 can't wait till you get here bro #stjbb” thanks bro.. I can't wait either
Well that should end any rumors Amir was gonna just go mlb
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“@Amir_Garrett: happy birthday to my bro @KarrSampson14 can't wait till you get here bro #stjbb” thanks bro.. I can't wait either
Well that should end any rumors Amir was gonna just go mlb
If Lavin goes to USC, as appeared highly probable, the I predict Amir will opt to be the Reds opening day pitcher next year.
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Kentucky Derby roster. JaKarr in good company.
“@jdemling: Chicken Knowles and Cameron Biedscheid also added to Derby Classic rosters. http://t.co/pD4rrv8y (http://t.co/pD4rrv8y)”
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As we wonder what's happening in France, Belgium & wherever the heck Lavs is, enjoy a taste of JaKarr today in the Derby Classic dunk contest. Hops!!!!!!!
“@Hoopmixtape: NEW Video; Marcus Smart Hits The Eastbay Off The Board! @KentuckyDerby Dunk Contest Semis! http://t.co/OIx3w8Gr (http://t.co/OIx3w8Gr)”
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Kentucky Derby Fesival Underway. !No feeds, but updates
“@CLykinsBlog: St. John's signed Jakarr Sampson not playing nice with the rim, after two thunderous slams.”
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“@jdemling: Jakarr Sampson now has 7 dunks in this game. Last one a flying, one-hander that drew a roar. Love All-Star games - 24 dunks in 3 quarters”
Amile Jefferson apparently high scorer in typical no D all star game
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“@jdemling: Jakarr Sampson now has 7 dunks in this game. Last one a flying, one-hander that drew a roar. Love All-Star games - 24 dunks in 3 quarters”
Amile Jefferson apparently high scorer in typical no D all star game
Amile Jefferson would have been great for us. He just knows how to score
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“@jdemling: Jakarr Sampson now has 7 dunks in this game. Last one a flying, one-hander that drew a roar. Love All-Star games - 24 dunks in 3 quarters”
Amile Jefferson apparently high scorer in typical no D all star game
Amile Jefferson would have been great for us. He just knows how to score
I haven't watched the game but I doubt Jakarr is just a consolation prize. Amile is a little smoother offensive player for sure. Jakarr has some athleticism on him though.
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“@jdemling: Jakarr Sampson now has 7 dunks in this game. Last one a flying, one-hander that drew a roar. Love All-Star games - 24 dunks in 3 quarters”
Amile Jefferson apparently high scorer in typical no D all star game
Amile Jefferson would have been great for us. He just knows how to score
I haven't watched the game but I doubt Jakarr is just a consolation prize. Amile is a little smoother offensive player for sure. Jakarr has some athleticism on him though.
In no way was I saying that Jakarr is a consolation prize. Kids a beast
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JaKaar had 18 points w 7 dunks in Derby Classic in Louisville. Brief recap below.
“@jdemling: @BSnowScout @EvanDanielscout Check out video at bottom. Tyler Lewis dropped a dime for Sam Dekker from upper deck http://t.co/2bZSnqfd (http://t.co/2bZSnqfd)”
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anyone know when Jakarr was going to sign his LOI?
i want to make this damn thing official already and hear Lavs comment on him and his place on next years squad.
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DOES ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE IF HE HAS QUALIFIED TO PLAY?
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Posters are worried about 2013 schollies but there is a good chance that Jakaar is one and done. He was rated higher than Moe and he's had an extra year od prep.
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Posters are worried about 2013 schollies but there is a good chance that Jakaar is one and done. He was rated higher than Moe and he's had an extra year od prep.
True, but players rated in the area of Moe and Jakarr usually are not one and done's. Moe's case was rare.
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Posters are worried about 2013 schollies but there is a good chance that Jakaar is one and done. He was rated higher than Moe and he's had an extra year od prep.
Getting Hooper on board is a good way to keep Jakarr around. They are best of friends. Don't doubt that wasn't thought of.
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“@BrewsterHoops: #Brewster forward JaKarr Sampson @KarrSampson14 has signed his LOI with #StJohns #BigEast #RedStorm. Sampson will... http://t.co/RZ8tBvGk (http://t.co/RZ8tBvGk)”
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This has been like a season of 24 and Lavin ( Jack Bauer ) saves the world and everything starts coming together in the final episode
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This has been like a season of 24 and Lavin ( Jack Bauer ) saves the world and everything starts coming together in the final episode
...and there are always people on the "inside" trying to take him out.....looking at you Baldi and Bobre... ;)
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This has been like a season of 24 and Lavin ( Jack Bauer ) saves the world and everything starts coming together in the final episode
...and there are always people on the "inside" trying to take him out.....looking at you Baldi and Bobre... ;)
I like Lavin, I just state the obvious when others look the other way
And of course stir the pot
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Here's a video from the Brewster alumni game. Jakarrs highlights are right after Tharpe.
Kyrie Irving, CJ Fair, Naadir Tharpe + more Participate in the Brewster Alumni game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIgP_ByJQZU#ws)
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That's more shots than Tharpe took all year this year :2funny:
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JKS doesn't look as skinny as he did last year. still needs to put on the weight but looks more solid.
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Max Hooper 2:10
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JKS doesn't look as skinny as he did last year. still needs to put on the weight but looks more solid.
He filled out. Which is natural when you consider it was his post grad year.
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I am so impressed with this young man.
“@BrewsterHoops: Also at Brewster's graduation, #StJohn's-signee @KarrSampson14 received the Ronald "Buzzy' Dore Memorial Award... http://t.co/6638V63x (http://t.co/6638V63x)”
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Eager to see him play alongside Obekpa - we are gonna be LONG now!
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JR run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JF run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
I actually agree with him ha.
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JF run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
I actually agree with him ha.
So much Moose in Jon Rothstein! Say it ain't so man!
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JF run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
I actually agree with him ha.
So much Moose in Jon Rothstein! Say it ain't so man!
No love for 3'angelo
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JR run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
Whenever we read about a new recruit, the who does he remind us of question always comes up. He uses it, and it works.
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JR run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
Whenever we read about a new recruit, the who does he remind us of question always comes up. He uses it, and it works.
Like the saying "a picture is worth 1000 words", a comparison is worth a 1000 word description. It paints a quick picture.
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JR run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
Whenever we read about a new recruit, the who does he remind us of question always comes up. He uses it, and it works.
Comparisons are nice. He goes overboard. And a lot of them make no sense at all.
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I have no idea whose style or looks Jakarr reminds folks of. I just think he will be a very exciting player to watch this year. I can see him help to diminish the loss of Moe this season. If he does not average at least 13-15 points per game, I will be disappointed. Having Orlando and Chris playing inside should open up some nice touches by Jakarr.
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I have no idea whose style or looks Jakarr reminds folks of. I just think he will be a very exciting player to watch this year. I can see him help to diminish the loss of Moe this season. If he does not average at least 13-15 points per game, I will be disappointed. Having Orlando and Chris playing inside should open up some nice touches by Jakarr.
+1
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I have no idea whose style or looks Jakarr reminds folks of. I just think he will be a very exciting player to watch this year. I can see him help to diminish the loss of Moe this season. If he does not average at least 13-15 points per game, I will be disappointed. Having Orlando and Chris playing inside should open up some nice touches by Jakarr.
More players means less touches (granted better touches). I think 13-15 might be a little too much.
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I agree with moose. I think 10-12 ppg is more likely.
Also I dont see how he can say he will be our go to player. Does he not know were returning a player who averaged 17 a game as a freshmen?
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At this point his offensive game isn't complete so I dont see him being our go to player but he is a beast. IMO easily a top 20 player last year
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At this point his offensive game isn't complete so I dont see him being our go to player but he is a beast. IMO easily a top 20 player last year
So if he's a top 20 player last year... how would he compare to the guys that would've been in his class at his position? Say Moe, Quincy Miller, Otto Porter from G-town, Nash, Behanan. Guys like that.
And has his offense noticeably improved from the year at prep? Because people were saying the same thing a year ago. Unrefined offensively.
Anybody who's seen Jakarr alot feel free to chime in for those of us trying to get a picture of what we can expect.
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At this point his offensive game isn't complete so I dont see him being our go to player but he is a beast. IMO easily a top 20 player last year
So if he's a top 20 player last year... how would he compare to the guys that would've been in his class at his position? Say Moe, Quincy Miller, Otto Porter from G-town, Nash, Behanan. Guys like that.
And has his offense noticeably improved from the year at prep? Because people were saying the same thing a year ago. Unrefined offensively.
Anybody who's seen Jakarr alot feel free to chime in for those of us trying to get a picture of what we can expect.
Those guys had the benefit of playing in college so its hard to compare but I believe he is on that level. He has noticeably improved from his first season at Brewster to his last. He was definitely stronger and had some consistency with a mid range jumper. Still has work to do but is improving at those aspects which tells me he is working hard at it. What he will really bring to us in my eyes is someone who will excel in transition better then anyone from last year, an explosive finisher around the rim and potentially our best player in a full court press (Taller and longer then Dom/Amir). Haven't seen him since he was at Brewster so he may of improved more.
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I think Jakarr has some similarities to a Quincy Miller style of player. Jakarr is super high energy. He's got a quicker first step than Moe did, but not quite the same smoothness. That said, he's really got a crazy motor and attacks a lot. Good rebounder and good in open court. D'Lo will still be our leader and go-to plate, but Jakarr will play a big role in the frontcourt. He is too good enough of an athlete to handle for most PF's.
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I think Jakarr has some similarities to a Quincy Miller style of player. Jakarr is super high energy. He's got a quicker first step than Moe did, but not quite the same smoothness. That said, he's really got a crazy motor and attacks a lot. Good rebounder and good in open court. D'Lo will still be our leader and go-to plate, but Jakarr will play a big role in the frontcourt. He is too good enough of an athlete to handle for most PF's.
I agree with everything except the Quincy Miller comparison. Quincy is much more of a perimeter player than Jakarr
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I think D Lo will average about 15 points a game and Jakarr around 10 but everyone else will be in that 7-9 range. We are goint to run, run, and run some more and put up a to of points.
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I think Jakarr has some similarities to a Quincy Miller style of player. Jakarr is super high energy. He's got a quicker first step than Moe did, but not quite the same smoothness. That said, he's really got a crazy motor and attacks a lot. Good rebounder and good in open court. D'Lo will still be our leader and go-to plate, but Jakarr will play a big role in the frontcourt. He is too good enough of an athlete to handle for most PF's.
I agree with everything except the Quincy Miller comparison. Quincy is much more of a perimeter player than Jakarr
Agree that he's more of a perimeter player. I do think they have some similarities though, especially with their game around the rim.
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I think D Lo will average about 15 points a game and Jakarr around 10 but everyone else will be in that 7-9 range. We are goint to run, run, and run some more and put up a to of points.
D'lo is going to be our best offensive player this year by a wide margin. Hell get plenty of shots and opportunities. Personally I think theres no way he averages 15 a game. I think it will be closer to 18
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I think D Lo will average about 15 points a game and Jakarr around 10 but everyone else will be in that 7-9 range. We are goint to run, run, and run some more and put up a to of points.
I hope you're right but my biggest fear is we struggle offensively. Even if we run as much as possible, at least 75% of our possessions are going to be in the half court. I'm hoping Branch can be a facilitator because even if we weren't forced to kill the clock because of a lack of depth -- we still had horrible ball movement for most of last year. Not to mention terrible shooting from the field, from the line, and from 3.
No way around it - we have to be more efficient offensively this year.
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I think D Lo will average about 15 points a game and Jakarr around 10 but everyone else will be in that 7-9 range. We are goint to run, run, and run some more and put up a to of points.
I hope you're right but my biggest fear is we struggle offensively. Even if we run as much as possible, at least 75% of our possessions are going to be in the half court. I'm hoping Branch can be a facilitator because even if we weren't forced to kill the clock because of a lack of depth -- we still had horrible ball movement for most of last year. Not to mention terrible shooting from the field, from the line, and from 3.
No way around it - we have to be more efficient offensively this year.
Can't we run plays for our front court? I thought our new bigs have skills.
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I think D Lo will average about 15 points a game and Jakarr around 10 but everyone else will be in that 7-9 range. We are goint to run, run, and run some more and put up a to of points.
I hope you're right but my biggest fear is we struggle offensively. Even if we run as much as possible, at least 75% of our possessions are going to be in the half court. I'm hoping Branch can be a facilitator because even if we weren't forced to kill the clock because of a lack of depth -- we still had horrible ball movement for most of last year. Not to mention terrible shooting from the field, from the line, and from 3.
No way around it - we have to be more efficient offensively this year.
Can't we run plays for our front court? I thought our new bigs have skills.
Agreed. We're not going to be a team full of snipers. We do have guys that càn score going to the rim though, which is what I expect.
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“@JonRothstein: Getting the early vibe that Jakarr Sampson could be St. John's go to player in 12-13. Has always reminded me of Chris Singleton.”
When does JR run dry on this comparison crap? Lol
This is borderline http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMpsttlXye8&feature=relateded. How anyone could think any player on the roster would be a higher scoring option than Harrison...wow. Harrison will be around 20 ppg and I expect Sampson just above double-digits.
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
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Marilac- that statement is just ridiculous.
Harrison got a ton of shots last year solely because he was one of two real offensive options on a bad team. The team will have depth an options next season. I do think Harrison gets 15+ per game next year but to say anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know hoops is just a dumb statement.
Be honest, Harrison & Harkless don't not get the numbers they did this past season if we have a full roster. They simply would not have been one court as much if the team had a full roster of scholarship players. If Nuri had stuck it out, Harrison never gets near his season averages.
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Marilac- that statement is just ridiculous.
Harrison got a ton of shots last year solely because he was one of two real offensive options on a bad team. The team will have depth an options next season. I do think Harrison gets 15+ per game next year but to say anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know hoops is just a dumb statement.
Be honest, Harrison & Harkless don't not get the numbers they did this past season if we have a full roster. They simply would not have been one court as much if the team had a full roster of scholarship players. If Nuri had stuck it out, Harrison never gets near his season averages.
Of course, D'lo already had games of 21, 17 and 16 before Nuri Left. And it was one game after Nuri Left that Amir joined the roster, so those minutes and shots from his were pretty well absorbed.
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this guy's love for Sponge Bob is frightening! LOL I hope the student section shows up with Sponge Bob masks to the games.
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There are regrets and then there's that^. Lol.
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Way to sop up some of That NY culture guys! Nice picture to provoke height debate/concerns for rest of summer!
“@obekpa12: Museum flow wif @KarrSampson14 http://t.co/cA154NtE (http://t.co/cA154NtE)”
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cAN HE HIT A 12 FOOT BASELINE JUMP SHOT?
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cAN HE HIT A 12 FOOT BASELINE JUMP SHOT?
Ask yourself that question. You recruited him.
Don't be mad he called you a clown.
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cAN HE HIT A 12 FOOT BASELINE JUMP SHOT?
Yes
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
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Way to sop up some of That NY culture guys! Nice picture to provoke height debate/concerns for rest of summer!
“@obekpa12: Museum flow wif @KarrSampson14 http://t.co/cA154NtE (http://t.co/cA154NtE)”
Actually not much concern for me. Jakarr is at least 6'7" if not taller. He's not short at all and was an inch or so shorter than Nerlens when they played. It tells me Obekpa is at least a legit 6'9" which is great for us at center. Also great to see these guys becoming friends. How our team interacts together is über important. These kids are encouraged to serve at Bread and Life, go to museums and even are worked into a yoga regimen as part of their training. I love the direction the program has gone and is going under Lavin.
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
Harrison is not only an emotional leader, but a proven top-level Big East scorer and a warrior. Anybody who thinks he isn't our go-to guy is crazy. He's as clutch as they come. Frankly I haven't seen all too many freshmen as fearless out of the gate. Our bigs and everybody else will come along, but Harrison is a proven commodity.
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“@WFAN660: #NCAA hoops notes from @JonRothstein: @KarrSampson14, @STJ_Basketball & more http://t.co/V5j2MlHv (http://t.co/V5j2MlHv)”
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Way to sop up some of That NY culture guys! Nice picture to provoke height debate/concerns for rest of summer!
“@obekpa12: Museum flow wif @KarrSampson14 http://t.co/cA154NtE (http://t.co/cA154NtE)”
Yeah JaKarr's shrinking to 6'7" now
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
I love him. But if it's gonna be said he's our only go to guy for the time he's here is sayin we ain't got much of a team. What are other coaches gonna do on D if we got one go to guy?
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
I love him. But if it's gonna be said he's our only go to guy for the time he's here is sayin we ain't got much of a team. What are other coaches gonna do on D if we got one go to guy?
We have a team littered with Top 75 talents. There is more talent on this team than STJ teams of the last 2 decades arguably more. What are you talking about?
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
I love him. But if it's gonna be said he's our only go to guy for the time he's here is sayin we ain't got much of a team. What are other coaches gonna do on D if we got one go to guy?
If there are more than one "go to guy's" on the team, then doesnt that render the term "go to guy" null?
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
I'm responding to a post that says DH is and will be our only go to guy for his entire stay here. I sure hope not. I have also read that he my be leaving after this year. Kemba stayed 3, JJ 4 I think, and Jerry Mac could not play at that level. DH tough as nails, and can be one of the great Johnnies of all time, and never make the NBA. I hope he has a long prosperous pro career, but is not our only go to guy for the next 3 years.
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
I love him. But if it's gonna be said he's our only go to guy for the time he's here is sayin we ain't got much of a team. What are other coaches gonna do on D if we got one go to guy?
If there are more than one "go to guy's" on the team, then doesnt that render the term "go to guy" null?
No, it means your easy to defend.
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
Im not sure if im totally understanding your post JR, but are you not high on Harrison's game? Did you not see what he did last year in the big east as a freshmen? He was in the top three in PPG during conference games? I think thats got "go to" written all over it. I dont care if he can't jump that high. Hes quick and as tough as they come. Not to mention he does dribble well with both hands.
I love him. But if it's gonna be said he's our only go to guy for the time he's here is sayin we ain't got much of a team. What are other coaches gonna do on D if we got one go to guy?
If there are more than one "go to guy's" on the team, then doesnt that render the term "go to guy" null?
No, it means your easy to defend.
'82 UNC - the "go to guys" were the teams leading scorers - All Americans James Worthy and Sam Perkins. Of course, with the NCAA title on the line for one shot, they put the ball in the hands of their 13 ppg freshman, and jump-started a legend.....
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This "go-to guy" label is being over analyzed. I think we can all agree the team needs players other than D'angelo to step up if we're going to realize our potential.
By the way, following up on the report from someone here on the board recently that Jakarr looks like a work in progress, Rothstein just wrote an article saying he might be one of the best freshmen in the country.... who to believe?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/)
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This "go-to guy" label is being over analyzed. I think we can all agree the team needs players other than D'angelo to step up if we're going to realize our potential.
By the way, following up on the report from someone here on the board recently that Jakarr looks like a work in progress, Rothstein just wrote an article saying he might be one of the best freshmen in the country.... who to believe?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/)
Really do take exception to the "St. John’s is going to be incredibly young and inexperienced at the beginning of the season" comment. Just from a "truth in advertising" perspective. Young, yes, but not really incredibly so. Inexperienced? We return 5 players who averaged 27 or more minutes a game last season. Our returness played 4,665 of the 6,425 minutes that were played last year. I guarantee you there's a truckload of teams with nowhere CLOSE to that. We've got a Senior, a Junior, 6 sophmores and 4 freshmen. We return 70% of our scoring (okay, 68.9%), 58% of our Rebounding, 72% of our assists, 62% of our blocks, 72% of our steals. while adding 7 new scholarship contributors....72% of our assists, and we're ADDING Jamal Branch? 62% of our blocks, and we're ADDING Chris Obekpa and Sanchez? 58% of our rebounding, and we're adding Samson/Obekpa/Sanchez/Jones? 70% of our scoring, and adding....well, everyone? And hey, the 5 returnees all figure to be a year BETTER.
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This "go-to guy" label is being over analyzed. I think we can all agree the team needs players other than D'angelo to step up if we're going to realize our potential.
By the way, following up on the report from someone here on the board recently that Jakarr looks like a work in progress, Rothstein just wrote an article saying he might be one of the best freshmen in the country.... who to believe?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/)
Really do take exception to the "St. John’s is going to be incredibly young and inexperienced at the beginning of the season" comment. Just from a "truth in advertising" perspective. Young, yes, but not really incredibly so. Inexperienced? We return 5 players who averaged 27 or more minutes a game last season. Our returness played 4,665 of the 6,425 minutes that were played last year. I guarantee you there's a truckload of teams with nowhere CLOSE to that. We've got a Senior, a Junior, 6 sophmores and 4 freshmen. We return 70% of our scoring (okay, 68.9%), 58% of our Rebounding, 72% of our assists, 62% of our blocks, 72% of our steals. while adding 7 new scholarship contributors....72% of our assists, and we're ADDING Jamal Branch? 62% of our blocks, and we're ADDING Chris Obekpa and Sanchez? 58% of our rebounding, and we're adding Samson/Obekpa/Sanchez/Jones? 70% of our scoring, and adding....well, everyone? And hey, the 5 returnees all figure to be a year BETTER.
I really like this post, haha :D
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This "go-to guy" label is being over analyzed. I think we can all agree the team needs players other than D'angelo to step up if we're going to realize our potential.
By the way, following up on the report from someone here on the board recently that Jakarr looks like a work in progress, Rothstein just wrote an article saying he might be one of the best freshmen in the country.... who to believe?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/)
Really do take exception to the "St. John’s is going to be incredibly young and inexperienced at the beginning of the season" comment. Just from a "truth in advertising" perspective. Young, yes, but not really incredibly so. Inexperienced? We return 5 players who averaged 27 or more minutes a game last season. Our returness played 4,665 of the 6,425 minutes that were played last year. I guarantee you there's a truckload of teams with nowhere CLOSE to that. We've got a Senior, a Junior, 6 sophmores and 4 freshmen. We return 70% of our scoring (okay, 68.9%), 58% of our Rebounding, 72% of our assists, 62% of our blocks, 72% of our steals. while adding 7 new scholarship contributors....72% of our assists, and we're ADDING Jamal Branch? 62% of our blocks, and we're ADDING Chris Obekpa and Sanchez? 58% of our rebounding, and we're adding Samson/Obekpa/Sanchez/Jones? 70% of our scoring, and adding....well, everyone? And hey, the 5 returnees all figure to be a year BETTER.
Alan Greenspan would be proud!
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
I don't even understand what you are trying to say with this post. D'Angelo Harrison is one of the most skilled college players I have ever seen. His handle is awesome...he shoots incredibly well, can get to the tin, has excellent vision and passing skills, he's deadly from the FT line, and he's as savvy as they come. His offensive game was so much further along than anyone we had last year--Moe included--it wasn't even funny. When Moe sat, we suffered but we could get some offense. When Harrison sat, we were immediatey one of the worst offensive teams in the country.
I think we'll have more options next season...I think we'll get a lot of points in transition where it doesn't really matter who is finishing the basket. I think Sampson will be a good option, I expect Greene to develop, I think Garrett will really grow as a scorer and a player, and I expect there to be some shooters to spread things out. However, anyone that thinks D'Angelo Harrison won't be our go-to guy or our leading scorer by a very healthy margin, just doesn't know our team that well. Harrison is an effing monster.
Cover a soph Harrison one-on-one and you will get burnt over and over again. In summary: Harrison= go-to scorer, but that doesn't mean other guys won't be good scorers. Capiche?
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
I don't even understand what you are trying to say with this post. D'Angelo Harrison is one of the most skilled college players I have ever seen. His handle is awesome...he shoots incredibly well, can get to the tin, has excellent vision and passing skills, he's deadly from the FT line, and he's as savvy as they come. His offensive game was so much further along than anyone we had last year--Moe included--it wasn't even funny. When Moe sat, we suffered but we could get some offense. When Harrison sat, we were immediatey one of the worst offensive teams in the country.
I think we'll have more options next season...I think we'll get a lot of points in transition where it doesn't really matter who is finishing the basket. I think Sampson will be a good option, I expect Greene to develop, I think Garrett will really grow as a scorer and a player, and I expect there to be some shooters to spread things out. However, anyone that thinks D'Angelo Harrison won't be our go-to guy or our leading scorer by a very healthy margin, just doesn't know our team that well. Harrison is an effing monster.
Cover a soph Harrison one-on-one and you will get burnt over and over again. In summary: Harrison= go-to scorer, but that doesn't mean other guys won't be good scorers. Capiche?
Mr. M, sorry you don't get my post. You my be more right then me, but although I like Harrisons game and Tude, we don't see the same player. Your describing a first team all-American, and I'm looking forward to all BE mention. Are you thinking Big O, or more Jerry Mac? You thinking we can't get a player better then DH while he is here is why I responded to your post. It's a big mans game, and my hope is Coach Steve can recruit some. My go to is 6-9, shoots in the 50's, rebounds his misses, and gets to the line when he wants. We read Coach and Harrison gonna work him at the point. I hope that works out, and DH loves getting it in to the bigs. Thanks for your patience.
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The video was removed Marillac. Just curious what was it?
I trie to type retar'ded but the site makes that word into The Hanogver scene automatically. The only go-to guy for STJ will be Harrison until he leaves. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know basketball.
The short slow guy, who can't jump is our only go to guy. I think Harrison got balls, and can be a nice player here, but you sure slamming our bigs, and all future recruits. If I believe your premise I gotta figure we stink the next 3 years. Is the talk that I read on this site sayin DH maybe goin to the league next year for real? I'm not in love with the NBA, but I do watch some. The guards I see in the league are big, fast, strong, can jump and shoot, and defend. Yea, and they dribble with both hands. You were to emphatic to be serious.
I don't even understand what you are trying to say with this post. D'Angelo Harrison is one of the most skilled college players I have ever seen. His handle is awesome...he shoots incredibly well, can get to the tin, has excellent vision and passing skills, he's deadly from the FT line, and he's as savvy as they come. His offensive game was so much further along than anyone we had last year--Moe included--it wasn't even funny. When Moe sat, we suffered but we could get some offense. When Harrison sat, we were immediatey one of the worst offensive teams in the country.
I think we'll have more options next season...I think we'll get a lot of points in transition where it doesn't really matter who is finishing the basket. I think Sampson will be a good option, I expect Greene to develop, I think Garrett will really grow as a scorer and a player, and I expect there to be some shooters to spread things out. However, anyone that thinks D'Angelo Harrison won't be our go-to guy or our leading scorer by a very healthy margin, just doesn't know our team that well. Harrison is an effing monster.
Cover a soph Harrison one-on-one and you will get burnt over and over again. In summary: Harrison= go-to scorer, but that doesn't mean other guys won't be good scorers. Capiche?
Mr. M, sorry you don't get my post. You my be more right then me, but although I like Harrisons game and Tude, we don't see the same player. Your describing a first team all-American, and I'm looking forward to all BE mention. Are you thinking Big O, or more Jerry Mac? You thinking we can't get a player better then DH while he is here is why I responded to your post. It's a big mans game, and my hope is Coach Steve can recruit some. My go to is 6-9, shoots in the 50's, rebounds his misses, and gets to the line when he wants. We read Coach and Harrison gonna work him at the point. I hope that works out, and DH loves getting it in to the bigs. Thanks for your patience.
Bottom line, D'Angelo will be the leader of this team for his entire career at STJ. Not sure why you think otherwise. Guy is a true scorer and leader of the offense. Who says your go-to guy has to be a big man? D'Angelo will be considered for BE player of the year at some point during his career, you can take that to the bank. He's that good, sorry if you can't see that. Last season he played just about every minute of every game, and this year he will get some well deserved rest, making him even better.
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D'Angelo Harrison is one of the most skilled college players I have ever seen.
You need to watch more college basketball
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Really do take exception to the "St. John’s is going to be incredibly young and inexperienced at the beginning of the season" comment. Just from a "truth in advertising" perspective. Young, yes, but not really incredibly so.
Interesting to hear you disagree with TGAPL. Usually its all tongue bath all the time. Lavin recently tweeted that SJ was "likely youngest team in the country next season" and in fact talks the teams youth up at every opportunity. If he didn't neither would Rothstein or Andy Katz ("Lavin is convinced with 11 underclassmen he will have one of the youngest teams in the country and in St. John's history") or anyone else. Because that's the story line TGAPL is feeding the media, to diminish expectations for a team that won a dozen games and lost its best player. As was noted elsewhere by an astute poster, one big thing TGAPL learned during his coaching sabatical was the importance of narrative. Perhaps you think Rothstein is out pounding the pavement digging up leads for hard hitting all the president's men exposes . He's not. He's a somewhere between a lapdog and a press agent. Coaches text him stuff and he regurgitates it. Damon Runyon he ain't.
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Really do take exception to the "St. John’s is going to be incredibly young and inexperienced at the beginning of the season" comment. Just from a "truth in advertising" perspective. Young, yes, but not really incredibly so.
Interesting to hear you disagree with TGAPL. Usually its all tongue bath all the time. Lavin recently tweeted that SJ was "likely youngest team in the country next season" and in fact talks the teams youth up at every opportunity. If he didn't neither would Rothstein or Andy Katz ("Lavin is convinced with 11 underclassmen he will have one of the youngest teams in the country and in St. John's history") or anyone else. Because that's the story line TGAPL is feeding the media, to diminish expectations for a team that won a dozen games and lost its best player. As was noted elsewhere by an astute poster, one big thing TGAPL learned during his coaching sabatical was the importance of narrative. Perhaps you think Rothstein is out pounding the pavement digging up leads for hard hitting all the president's men exposes . He's not. He's a somewhere between a lapdog and a press agent. Coaches text him stuff and he regurgitates it. Damon Runyon he ain't.
Fwiw, I think it is good strategy for Lavin to play-up our youth. It's always better to exceed expectations than to never live up to the loftier ones like at UCLA. We are young and I think Lavin knows we'll be pretty good as the season moves along. SJU's story line this seasonis potentially better as the underdog though.
Oh and Rothstein isn't between lapdog and press agent. He's between the Scarpariello wings and the ramp gnocchi followed by linguini puttanesca, veal saltimboca and amaretto-fig panna cotta... ;)
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As we all remember previous coach had us forever young even in his last year with all those juniors and I think some seniors.
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As we all remember previous coach had us forever young even in his last year with all those juniors and I think some seniors.
Yeah, but two of those juniors, Buckets and JB, WERE 1st year players in from JC. :)
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As we all remember previous coach had us forever young even in his last year with all those juniors and I think some seniors.
Yeah, but two of those juniors, Buckets and JB, WERE 1st year players in from JC. :)
Guess we were young than! :) ;) ??? ::)
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
For someone who has seen him live multiple times, his jumper improved drastically from his sr year to prep year. Not sure which highlights in there are which years. He is more than capable of hitting the FT line extended Jumper which is all I ask for.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
For someone who has seen him live multiple times, his jumper improved drastically from his sr year to prep year. Not sure which highlights in there are which years. He is more than capable of hitting the FT line extended Jumper which is all I ask for.
Moose prevents mass panic again! Ha!
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
For someone who has seen him live multiple times, his jumper improved drastically from his sr year to prep year. Not sure which highlights in there are which years. He is more than capable of hitting the FT line extended Jumper which is all I ask for.
that's awesome! thanks for the update.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
He won't have trouble playing against bigger stronger guys. D1 ball isn't made up of a bunch of Charles Oakleys. Maurice Harkless at the same height had no trouble taking on bigger guys. We're also a bit bigger overall this season than last season. Jakarr is quicker and more athletic than most PF's. Harkless did most of s damage down low and while he is certainly a better outside shooter than Jakarr, I can hardly see Jakarr's 3-pt shooting average be a heck of a lot worse. Jakarr will work his stuff down low, mid range and open court.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
He won't have trouble playing against bigger stronger guys. D1 ball isn't made up of a bunch of Charles Oakleys. Maurice Harkless at the same height had no trouble taking on bigger guys. We're also a bit bigger overall this season than last season. Jakarr is quicker and more athletic than most PF's. Harkless did most of s damage down low and while he is certainly a better outside shooter than Jakarr, I can hardly see Jakarr's 3-pt shooting average be a heck of a lot worse. Jakarr will work his stuff down low, mid range and open court.
Hasn't he been practicing against guys like Mitch McGary every day for like, two years now?
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
He won't have trouble playing against bigger stronger guys. D1 ball isn't made up of a bunch of Charles Oakleys. Maurice Harkless at the same height had no trouble taking on bigger guys. We're also a bit bigger overall this season than last season. Jakarr is quicker and more athletic than most PF's. Harkless did most of s damage down low and while he is certainly a better outside shooter than Jakarr, I can hardly see Jakarr's 3-pt shooting average be a heck of a lot worse. Jakarr will work his stuff down low, mid range and open court.
Hasn't he been practicing against guys like Mitch McGary every day for like, two years now?
Good point.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
He won't have trouble playing against bigger stronger guys. D1 ball isn't made up of a bunch of Charles Oakleys. Maurice Harkless at the same height had no trouble taking on bigger guys. We're also a bit bigger overall this season than last season. Jakarr is quicker and more athletic than most PF's. Harkless did most of s damage down low and while he is certainly a better outside shooter than Jakarr, I can hardly see Jakarr's 3-pt shooting average be a heck of a lot worse. Jakarr will work his stuff down low, mid range and open court.
Hasn't he been practicing against guys like Mitch McGary every day for like, two years now?
Good point.
And playing against guys like Nerlens Noel as well as a handful of the most talented big forwards in the country.
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He played in a great league but still has a ways to go. He'll be able to do some things and not be able to do others. It will be interesting to see if he's willing to play to his strengths or foolishly try to do more.
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Thebballdiary tweeted he dunked on Justin burrel last week and it was ugly..
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could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
??? In what regard? Dwight Hardy was pretty damn exciting his senior year.
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JaKarr is an athletic freak and will not have the massive weight on his shoulders that a player like Moe Harkless had last year. He is certainly not a one & done player but is one of the more athletic players the program has seen in a long time.
He is going to have some balance around him this year and hopefully he plays well.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
When was Showtime exciting? The show never started.
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I know we were'nt a good team but showtime did ave 20ppg, third in big east in scoring in 2004 if i remember correctly.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
When was Showtime exciting? The show never started.
You crack me up. You really do.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
When was Showtime exciting? The show never started.
When he broke the legs of that Providence kid. :)
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Miles Simon worked with Hooper & Karr in Cali;
“@milessimon: Fun week of work with @maxthehooper and @KarrSampson14 u guys are the best!!! #confidenceisthekey”
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
When was Showtime exciting? The show never started.
When he broke the legs of that Providence kid. :)
That was exciting, we cut their lead to 30.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
When was Showtime exciting? The show never started.
When he broke the legs of that Providence kid. :)
That was exciting, we cut their lead to 30.
You crack me up too :2funny:. Going to enjoy the season ?
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This "go-to guy" label is being over analyzed. I think we can all agree the team needs players other than D'angelo to step up if we're going to realize our potential.
By the way, following up on the report from someone here on the board recently that Jakarr looks like a work in progress, Rothstein just wrote an article saying he might be one of the best freshmen in the country.... who to believe?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/rothstein-files-this-and-that-around-college-basketball-12/)
Really do take exception to the "St. John’s is going to be incredibly young and inexperienced at the beginning of the season" comment. Just from a "truth in advertising" perspective. Young, yes, but not really incredibly so. Inexperienced? We return 5 players who averaged 27 or more minutes a game last season. Our returness played 4,665 of the 6,425 minutes that were played last year. I guarantee you there's a truckload of teams with nowhere CLOSE to that. We've got a Senior, a Junior, 6 sophmores and 4 freshmen. We return 70% of our scoring (okay, 68.9%), 58% of our Rebounding, 72% of our assists, 62% of our blocks, 72% of our steals. while adding 7 new scholarship contributors....72% of our assists, and we're ADDING Jamal Branch? 62% of our blocks, and we're ADDING Chris Obekpa and Sanchez? 58% of our rebounding, and we're adding Samson/Obekpa/Sanchez/Jones? 70% of our scoring, and adding....well, everyone? And hey, the 5 returnees all figure to be a year BETTER.
:up: :up:
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Phil Greene's Response to Nate's question:
Nathan Blue @Nateblueis4real
1h
Who is the sleeper Freshman that'll surprise college basketball this year? #NCAA
Phil Greene @philgreene31
52m
@Nateblueis4real JaKarr Sampson
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
He won't have trouble playing against bigger stronger guys. D1 ball isn't made up of a bunch of Charles Oakleys. Maurice Harkless at the same height had no trouble taking on bigger guys. We're also a bit bigger overall this season than last season. Jakarr is quicker and more athletic than most PF's. Harkless did most of s damage down low and while he is certainly a better outside shooter than Jakarr, I can hardly see Jakarr's 3-pt shooting average be a heck of a lot worse. Jakarr will work his stuff down low, mid range and open court.
I think Jakarr will follow his shots better than most and make a lot of opportunities for himself. He's not shy and he'll outjump a lot of BE bigs around the rim. The guy will be a big matchup problem for our opponents.
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his jumper doesn't look that great. only seems make-able close to the basket. anything beyond the foul line looks like trouble. but i do like his soft touch down low. will be tough in the BE playing against bigger, stronger guy.
i'm still excited to seem him. could be our most exciting player since Showtime Hill.
He won't have trouble playing against bigger stronger guys. D1 ball isn't made up of a bunch of Charles Oakleys. Maurice Harkless at the same height had no trouble taking on bigger guys. We're also a bit bigger overall this season than last season. Jakarr is quicker and more athletic than most PF's. Harkless did most of s damage down low and while he is certainly a better outside shooter than Jakarr, I can hardly see Jakarr's 3-pt shooting average be a heck of a lot worse. Jakarr will work his stuff down low, mid range and open court.
I think Jakarr will follow his shots better than most and make a lot of opportunities for himself. He's not shy and he'll outjump a lot of BE bigs around the rim. The guy will be a big matchup problem for our opponents.
Defensive rebounding is an area I hope he can be proficient at.
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#5 fwiw
“@friarblog: Sigh RT @PSBasketball: Our series of Big East Top 5 lists continues with the top 5 candidates for Rookie of the Year. http://t.co/lWv5WHN3 (http://t.co/lWv5WHN3)””
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I dont know the G-town guy, but long term i'm taking Sampson over Adams, Coleman and Calhoun
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I dont know the G-town guy, but long term i'm taking Sampson over Adams, Coleman and Calhoun
Why do you say that? I'm just asking.
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I dont know the G-town guy, but long term i'm taking Sampson over Adams, Coleman and Calhoun
I am not high on Calhoun. Not sold on Coleman but Jimmy is the guy to whip him into shape and motivate him.
DSR on gtown will be good. Adams I think will be a beast.
4 of the 5 deserve to be on that list. Interchangeable in order I think.
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I dont know the G-town guy, but long term i'm taking Sampson over Adams, Coleman and Calhoun
I am not high on Calhoun. Not sold on Coleman but Jimmy is the guy to whip him into shape and motivate him.
DSR on gtown will be good. Adams I think will be a beast.
4 of the 5 deserve to be on that list. Interchangeable in order I think.
I wasn't that impressed with Adams the one time I saw him. He was playing against inferior competition and never took advantage of it. Looked very soft.
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
He sure looks good in Red and White even more so then Black and White at Providence, no?
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Moe never played at brewster
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Moe never played at brewster
I think he meant played in the Nepsac together...
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true, sorry for the mistake
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true, sorry for the mistake
Why let the facts get in the way of a good story. ;)
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“@KarrSampson14: S/O to homie @obekpa12 go follow him.. me and my man gonna do some big thing this year #stjbb”
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“@JournalisTim: JaKarr Sampson's finally at St. John's, & reflects on his path. #STJbb #BigEastMBB http://t.co/JsS12dDt (http://t.co/JsS12dDt)”
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Great piece!
“@NYPost_Brazille: St. John's recruit Sampson has been tutored by LeBron - http://t.co/CqYJncKR (http://t.co/CqYJncKR) http://t.co/t09RnQGk (http://t.co/t09RnQGk) via @newyorkpost #stjbb”
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Great piece!
“@NYPost_Brazille: St. John's recruit Sampson has been tutored by LeBron - http://t.co/CqYJncKR (http://t.co/CqYJncKR) http://t.co/t09RnQGk (http://t.co/t09RnQGk) via @newyorkpost #stjbb”
Let's hope the tutoring started last year, and not before, otherwise Sampson will disappear at the end of our tighter games. ;)
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Merlens Noel was player ofte year for his division.
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Hopefully, LeBron didn't teach him how to behave like a 15 year old girl.
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Merlens Noel was player ofte year for his division.
From Noel's Official Bio at Kentucky: " Averaged 12.6 points, 3.9 blocks and 7.2 rebounds per game as a senior for 25-5 Tilton School." THAT was good enuf for Division POY? You gotta be kidding me.
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I'm really curious how Noel will handle Alex Len and Shaq Cleare on Nov 9th.
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Merlens Noel was player ofte year for his division.
From Noel's Official Bio at Kentucky: " Averaged 12.6 points, 3.9 blocks and 7.2 rebounds per game as a senior for 25-5 Tilton School." THAT was good enuf for Division POY? You gotta be kidding me.
Weren't they in the lesser division. Not the same as Brewster, SK, etc.
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Merlens Noel was player ofte year for his division.
From Noel's Official Bio at Kentucky: " Averaged 12.6 points, 3.9 blocks and 7.2 rebounds per game as a senior for 25-5 Tilton School." THAT was good enuf for Division POY? You gotta be kidding me.
Weren't they in the lesser division. Not the same as Brewster, SK, etc.
yes
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Merlens Noel was player ofte year for his division.
From Noel's Official Bio at Kentucky: " Averaged 12.6 points, 3.9 blocks and 7.2 rebounds per game as a senior for 25-5 Tilton School." THAT was good enuf for Division POY? You gotta be kidding me.
Weren't they in the lesser division. Not the same as Brewster, SK, etc.
yes
Noel averaged 12 pts 7 rebs and 4 blocks in the LESSER Division???? How in the world was this kid the #1 ranked recruit in the country - among both the junior AND (after he reclassified) Senior class? I understand "potential", but shouldn't you also have to, i don't know, PRODUCE at some point as well? At Jordan Brands he got 4 pts, 5 rebs, 3 blocks.
KY fans may be in for a shock. A reminder of how Antony Davis came in ranked as the #1 prospect last year: "Averaged 32 points, 22 rebounds, and seven blocked shots as a senior at Perspectives Charter High School in Chicago" and at Jordan Brands it was 29 pts, 11 rebs, 4 blocks....
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“@franfraschilla: Mo was more polished but Jakarr major league athlete with energy. RT @MikeDAngelo1977: who has more upside, mo harkless or Jakarr Sampson?”
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two years ago when jakar played with mo harkless at brewster jakar was first team in the league and maurice was 2nd team. this year he was player of the year over mcgary and nerls nolan. maybe one and done but enjoy the ride while he is at sju
Merlens Noel was player ofte year for his division.
From Noel's Official Bio at Kentucky: " Averaged 12.6 points, 3.9 blocks and 7.2 rebounds per game as a senior for 25-5 Tilton School." THAT was good enuf for Division POY? You gotta be kidding me.
Weren't they in the lesser division. Not the same as Brewster, SK, etc.
yes
Noel averaged 12 pts 7 rebs and 4 blocks in the LESSER Division???? How in the world was this kid the #1 ranked recruit in the country - among both the junior AND (after he reclassified) Senior class? I understand "potential", but shouldn't you also have to, i don't know, PRODUCE at some point as well? At Jordan Brands he got 4 pts, 5 rebs, 3 blocks.
KY fans may be in for a shock. A reminder of how Antony Davis came in ranked as the #1 prospect last year: "Averaged 32 points, 22 rebounds, and seven blocked shots as a senior at Perspectives Charter High School in Chicago" and at Jordan Brands it was 29 pts, 11 rebs, 4 blocks....
Noel isn.t 1/20th the player Davis was.
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I'm really curious how Noel will handle Alex Len and Shaq Cleare on Nov 9th.
I think Cleare's butt weighs more than Noel's whole body.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
Sampson had a fine week, but jeez, we played Holy Cross and FGC.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
Sampson had a fine week, but jeez, we played Holy Cross and FGC.
Why arent they counting his 18 point performance against Baylor on Sunday.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
Sampson had a fine week, but jeez, we played Holy Cross and FGC.
He's more than deserving. FGCU isn't that bad, and most other BE teams are playing the cupcake part of their schedule as well. Congrats Jakarr.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
Sampson had a fine week, but jeez, we played Holy Cross and FGC.
so you'd prefer for another player from another school to have won this?!
be happy for our guy. this is great pub for us. and besides, the more ROTW he gets the higher the chance he wins ROY.
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Boy Kilpatrick is quite a player!
“@BigEastMBB: Want to know why Sean Kilpatrick and JaKarr Sampson were this week's BIG EAST award winners? Check out their highlights http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ (http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ)”
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Boy Kilpatrick is quite a player!
“@BigEastMBB: Want to know why Sean Kilpatrick and JaKarr Sampson were this week's BIG EAST award winners? Check out their highlights http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ (http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ)”
No offense, but would anyone get anything remotely resembling an accurate take on Jakarr's game from THOSE clips. "Gee, he looks like a nice passive mid-range shooter..."
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Boy Kilpatrick is quite a player!
“@BigEastMBB: Want to know why Sean Kilpatrick and JaKarr Sampson were this week's BIG EAST award winners? Check out their highlights http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ (http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ)”
No offense, but would anyone get anything remotely resembling an accurate take on Jakarr's game from THOSE clips. "Gee, he looks like a nice passive mid-range shooter..."
It is just another positive piece of PR. Did you expect a twenty minute show stopper? Enjoy the honor and pub!
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Boy Kilpatrick is quite a player!
“@BigEastMBB: Want to know why Sean Kilpatrick and JaKarr Sampson were this week's BIG EAST award winners? Check out their highlights http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ (http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ)”
No offense, but would anyone get anything remotely resembling an accurate take on Jakarr's game from THOSE clips. "Gee, he looks like a nice passive mid-range shooter..."
It is just another positive piece of PR. Did you expect a twenty minute show stopper? Enjoy the honor and pub!
I wonder if nitpick.com URL is available
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Boy Kilpatrick is quite a player!
“@BigEastMBB: Want to know why Sean Kilpatrick and JaKarr Sampson were this week's BIG EAST award winners? Check out their highlights http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ (http://t.co/wCy4ChlQ)”
No offense, but would anyone get anything remotely resembling an accurate take on Jakarr's game from THOSE clips. "Gee, he looks like a nice passive mid-range shooter..."
It is just another positive piece of PR. Did you expect a twenty minute show stopper? Enjoy the honor and pub!
I wonder if nitpick.com URL is available
I can think of some investors. Funny line Moose!
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
Sampson had a fine week, but jeez, we played Holy Cross and FGC.
He's more than deserving. FGCU isn't that bad, and most other BE teams are playing the cupcake part of their schedule as well. Congrats Jakarr.
I didn't say he wasn't deserving, but come on, FGC is a joke if there ever was one.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
Sampson had a fine week, but jeez, we played Holy Cross and FGC.
He's more than deserving. FGCU isn't that bad, and most other BE teams are playing the cupcake part of their schedule as well. Congrats Jakarr.
I didn't say he wasn't deserving, but come on, FGC is a joke if there ever was one.
They beat an ACC team by double digits.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week, @KarrSampson14, and to D'Angelo Harrison, who made the Honor Roll two weeks in a row. #stjbb”
Sampson had a fine week, but jeez, we played Holy Cross and FGC.
He's more than deserving. FGCU isn't that bad, and most other BE teams are playing the cupcake part of their schedule as well. Congrats Jakarr.
I didn't say he wasn't deserving, but come on, FGC is a joke if there ever was one.
They beat an ACC team by double digits.
Yes, I know. Without Durand Scott. We often lose to this crap teams, and it's time that we are expected to beat them. We are St.John's, and our standards need to be raised. IMO, this game was technically a victory, but it showed that several glaring weaknesses have not been addressed by the players.
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“@BigEastMBB: Seton Hall G Fuquan Edwin is the BIG EAST Player of the Week; St. John's F JaKarr Sampson earns Rookie of the Week honors.”
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“@BigEastMBB: Louisville F Chane Behanan is 12/17 BIG EAST Player of the Week; St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
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The national attention Chris and JaKarr are getting bodes well for attracting kids and putting the program in a positive light. Obviously winning consistently and making Big Dance regularly still is a work in progress.
“@jeffborzello: In his last four games, St. John's freshman Jakarr Sampson is averaging 18.5 points and 10.5 rebounds.”
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“@ECoastBias: Reviewing Jakarr Sampson and the wings #stjbb http://t.co/icdiEO1M (http://t.co/icdiEO1M)”
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Rothstein giving Sampson kudos;
“@JonRothstein: The latest @WFAN660 features the Monday Morning College Hoops Notebook http://t.co/UyWOLXw4 (http://t.co/UyWOLXw4)”
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
Continue to bring in the league's best rookie
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
Continue to bring in the league's best rookie
Our program needs stability before thats really a good thing.
If the guy leaves after winning 20 games sure its great.
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
Continue to bring in the league's best rookie
Our program needs stability before thats really a good thing.
If the guy leaves after winning 20 games sure its great.
I agree about stability, but I'm not sure we can have it both ways. If you are going to be bringing in top 10-50 kids every year and selling them on getting to the next level, you can't be mad when they leave. In time, things will stabilize. I'm all for bringing in best possible talent, if they leave, so be it.
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
Continue to bring in the league's best rookie
Our program needs stability before thats really a good thing.
If the guy leaves after winning 20 games sure its great.
I agree about stability, but I'm not sure we can have it both ways. If you are going to be bringing in top 10-50 kids every year and selling them on getting to the next level, you can't be mad when they leave. In time, things will stabilize. I'm all for bringing in best possible talent, if they leave, so be it.
You can have it both ways. But you first need to get some guys to stick around 3-4 years. Can't have the one and done's until you have a bit of a buildup. What I'm saying is you can have one and done's but you need to be winning 20 games a year first.
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
Continue to bring in the league's best rookie
Our program needs stability before thats really a good thing.
If the guy leaves after winning 20 games sure its great.
I agree about stability, but I'm not sure we can have it both ways. If you are going to be bringing in top 10-50 kids every year and selling them on getting to the next level, you can't be mad when they leave. In time, things will stabilize. I'm all for bringing in best possible talent, if they leave, so be it.
You can have it both ways. But you first need to get some guys to stick around 3-4 years. Can't have the one and done's until you have a bit of a buildup. What I'm saying is you can have one and done's but you need to be winning 20 games a year first.
You also need kids to buy in and wait their turn. Look at McLemore and Carter Williams. Both waited their turns and now both are studs. Didn't see either of them get scared off and transferring due to playing time (or redshirting)
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
Continue to bring in the league's best rookie
Our program needs stability before thats really a good thing.
If the guy leaves after winning 20 games sure its great.
I agree about stability, but I'm not sure we can have it both ways. If you are going to be bringing in top 10-50 kids every year and selling them on getting to the next level, you can't be mad when they leave. In time, things will stabilize. I'm all for bringing in best possible talent, if they leave, so be it.
You can have it both ways. But you first need to get some guys to stick around 3-4 years. Can't have the one and done's until you have a bit of a buildup. What I'm saying is you can have one and done's but you need to be winning 20 games a year first.
You also need kids to buy in and wait their turn. Look at McLemore and Carter Williams. Both waited their turns and now both are studs. Didn't see either of them get scared off and transferring due to playing time (or redshirting)
McLemore was ineligible last year.
Your right on MCW.
All depends on the kid you bring in. Some will wait their turn. Some won't.
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So Lavin had the conference's two best rookies last year and, arguably, the two best this year in Sampson and Obekpa. It's amazing that I still hear criticism of his recruiting.
Last year's guy left. And you can't help but wonder who follows suit. Need continuity.
Continue to bring in the league's best rookie
Our program needs stability before thats really a good thing.
If the guy leaves after winning 20 games sure its great.
I agree about stability, but I'm not sure we can have it both ways. If you are going to be bringing in top 10-50 kids every year and selling them on getting to the next level, you can't be mad when they leave. In time, things will stabilize. I'm all for bringing in best possible talent, if they leave, so be it.
You can have it both ways. But you first need to get some guys to stick around 3-4 years. Can't have the one and done's until you have a bit of a buildup. What I'm saying is you can have one and done's but you need to be winning 20 games a year first.
You also need kids to buy in and wait their turn. Look at McLemore and Carter Williams. Both waited their turns and now both are studs. Didn't see either of them get scared off and transferring due to playing time (or redshirting)
McLemore was ineligible last year.
Your right on MCW.
All depends on the kid you bring in. Some will wait their turn. Some won't.
It's easier to sell that when you are a winning program and difficult when you are struggling as each kid thinks they can do better than the other,
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McLemore was ineligible last year.
Your right on MCW.
All depends on the kid you bring in. Some will wait their turn. Some won't.
It's easier to sell that when you are a winning program and difficult when you are struggling as each kid thinks they can do better than the other,
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I thought McLemore was a redshirt.
And that's my point Ted. We are far off from there, but would be great to get to the point where kids are willing to sit to play.
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McLemore was ineligible last year.
Your right on MCW.
All depends on the kid you bring in. Some will wait their turn. Some won't.
It's easier to sell that when you are a winning program and difficult when you are struggling as each kid thinks they can do better than the other,
I thought McLemore was a redshirt.
And that's my point Ted. We are far off from there, but would be great to get to the point where kids are willing to sit to play.
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That is the way it used to be at St Johns and almost every other program. With the 1 and 2 year player thing, kids look to go to winning programs to get their shot to play early due to other early defections before them then to make a buck themselves. The way we are getting players these days is by offering immediate playing time. I think it will take a few NCAA appearances to get us there and have a roster that allows for some development before they play.
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McLemore was ineligible last year.
Your right on MCW.
All depends on the kid you bring in. Some will wait their turn. Some won't.
It's easier to sell that when you are a winning program and difficult when you are struggling as each kid thinks they can do better than the other,
I thought McLemore was a redshirt.
And that's my point Ted. We are far off from there, but would be great to get to the point where kids are willing to sit to play.
That is the way it used to be at St Johns and almost every other program. With the 1 and 2 year player thing, kids look to go to winning programs to get their shot to play early due to other early defections before them then to make a buck themselves. The way we are getting players these days is by offering immediate playing time. I think it will take a few NCAA appearances to get us there and have a roster that allows for some development before they play.
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What we need is a core of solid upper classmen, then you can sprinkle in a couple 1 and 2 year players and remain constant. The fact that Lavin had to replace 9 ships in one class doesn't make it easy. But when you consider Dom, D'lo, Amir, Greene, Branch, Jones, and Felix that is gonna be a solid group of 4 year players. I also believe Sampson and CO will be upper classmen here. Once this group is upper classmen, if we bring in a legit 1 and done prospect we will be a scary team.
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I think in the long run we'll be fine - because the truth is there aren't THAT many freshmen who get drafted every year, and we aren't recruiting at THAT high of a level yet.
We're not really touching that Top 15 area in the rankings. And 9 or 10 freshmen got drafted last year, so what's that tell you? Most years, our guys are going to probably have to return to school.
Every once in awhile one of our recruits may break out like Moe did, but I think more often than not you'll see our guys go pro sophomore or junior year.
It's not like we're going to have a one and done every season.
Even if we get Lawrence and Jordan... it's far from a guarantee they are one and done. In fact, the chances are probably against it. I'm sure they'd like to be, but Macadoo and Nash thought they were one and done too... and look who's back for their sophomore seasons.
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McLemore was ineligible last year.
Your right on MCW.
All depends on the kid you bring in. Some will wait their turn. Some won't.
It's easier to sell that when you are a winning program and difficult when you are struggling as each kid thinks they can do better than the other,
I thought McLemore was a redshirt.
And that's my point Ted. We are far off from there, but would be great to get to the point where kids are willing to sit to play.
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McLemore did not sit by choice. He was ineligible. He and Traylor.
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Happened to glance at NBA draft express today and noticed that they had Jakarr in their 2014 draft. He was listed as the 1st pick of round 2.
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