6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: Moose on February 02, 2012, 01:56:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/#!/JucoRecruiting/status/165141854524944384
St. John's watched Brandon Parga (6'4/SG/2012) of Citrus College (CA) last night. Hawaii and Boston College also interested
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Maybe Steve is reading the site and heard we want a shooter on the end of the bench
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heres a video from highschool also a little write up from Citrus.
http://www.ncsasports.org/college-recruiting-videos-highlights/gilbert-brandon-parga (http://www.ncsasports.org/college-recruiting-videos-highlights/gilbert-brandon-parga)
http://www.citruscollege.edu/Athletics/MensBasketball/Pages/BrandonParga.aspx (http://www.citruscollege.edu/Athletics/MensBasketball/Pages/BrandonParga.aspx)
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Mainman on redmen posted his stats to date from this year.
So far this year:
Brandon Parga, Citrus
18 games
115-224 FGs 51.3%
39-82 3pt FGs 47.6%
83-96 FTs 86.5%
352 pts total
19.5 ppg
Definitely fits the bill of a shooter.
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Pure shot for sure....good size and fundamentals. Creating space will be difficult at this level with his limited athletic ability, though.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2012/2/2/2766947/st-johns-basketball-recruiting-brandon-parga-orlando-sanchez (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2012/2/2/2766947/st-johns-basketball-recruiting-brandon-parga-orlando-sanchez)
Link says basically the same thing.
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Better than Severe?
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I will go check him out as it is very close to my home where he plays, I will try to get some video.
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Better than Severe?
Severe is 13 and a 4 year scholarship whereas this kid would be 2 years. So yes. I would say better than Severe. Pretty sure Severe isn't as tall either.
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Pure shot for sure....good size and fundamentals. Creating space will be difficult at this level with his limited athletic ability, though.
Leaving much more time for Phil as third guard, but still giving us the flexibility to get a shooter in there when we really need one. It actually seems like a well thought out plan to me.
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Pure shot for sure....good size and fundamentals. Creating space will be difficult at this level with his limited athletic ability, though.
Leaving much more time for Phil as third guard, but still giving us the flexibility to get a shooter in there when we really need one. It actually seems like a well thought out plan to me.
I'd add him in a heartbeat if for nothing else than practice. Our zone has been destroyed by smart passing teams with good shooters. A 47% shooter will highlight every mistake the defense makes in practice. Athletic or not, he will get some wide open looks if he just plants his feet in the corner and lets defenses key on Harrison and waits for passes from Mo and company off of offensive boards. I like the high IQ comments. I also like the fact that he has two years of college experience and he'll help balance out the scholarship distribution.
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I ve said many times not all recruits have to be 4 star. We need a deeper bench so we dont get an ulcer everytime someone twists an ankle ar gets in foul trouble.. He seems seems to fit our needs as a good backup.
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If it's up to me, sign him up.
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Pure shot for sure....good size and fundamentals. Creating space will be difficult at this level with his limited athletic ability, though.
At this level, it takes good fundamentals to make space, not just athleticism. Larry bird wasnt a great athlete, but made plenty of space to shoot. Guys can separate with just a screen and a step in one direction off a pump-fake. Making space has a lot to do with the offense itself and creativity of the player.
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Pure shot for sure....good size and fundamentals. Creating space will be difficult at this level with his limited athletic ability, though.
At this level, it takes good fundamentals to make space, not just athleticism. Larry bird wasnt a great athlete, but made plenty of space to shoot. Guys can separate with just a screen and a step in one direction off a pump-fake. Making space has a lot to do with the offense itself and creativity of the player.
Too many 'limited athletes' have torched us in the last 10 yrs. Athleticism is overrated.
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Mullin was not overly athletic.
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This is fantastic! Now let's get some commitments.
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Mullin was not overly athletic.
Exactly. Neither was Adam Morrison, Bootsy and tonmof other guys. He doesn't look like a bad athlete at all. A pure shooter is great on a team full of gazelles. He just has to be in the right spots and let loose his shot.
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I have a good friend who is very close to Brandon Parga. He was out of shape in high school but can shoot the lights out. 6'4" and has gotten in better shape since high school. Smart kid too, was recruited by and almost went to Columbia but ended up missing the academic requirements for the Ivies. Would have gotten more looks if he was more athletic. My friend watched St. John's closely and told me that he thinks he would fit great on our squad.
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OK I have some news regarding Parga. He is currently being recruited by 15 schools, no offers yet, all D1. He did not realize St. John's was at any of his prior games but he is talking to Steve Lavin tomorrow. He had 21 points and 7 rebounds in the game where we watched him.
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This is his current list
Portland state
Boston college
Hawaii
CSUN
Texas State
Albany
Fullerton
Hofstra
Eastern Washington
TCU
We are his favorite right now according to my source, if for nothing else we are the best school recruiting him and Lavin's name is still known in Los Angeles.
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Good stuff thanks for sharing
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And also anyone wondering why he is in JUCO, it has nothing to do with grades or anything like that. He has exceptional grades. It is strictly because he had absolutely no offers coming out of high school.
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Kid shoots over 50% from the floor, nearly 50% from 3 and almost 90% from the line. Good student and deadeye shooter. Sounds like a kid to take a flyer on if he's a good enough athlete to play at this level. Not much harm and at worst case scenario, we have him at the end of our bench for 2 years to bring in late in games to go to the line with D'Lo. Not much to lose if he's a reasonably good prospect per the coaches opinions. I've seen enough unknown and unathletic shooters that have killed us over the years at other schools.
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Better than Severe?
Two non Top 50 players. One of them from California and the other from New York.
If he had to choose Lavin would go after the California player.
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Better than Severe?
Two non Top 50 players. One of them from California and the other from New York.
If he had to choose Lavin would go after the California player.
The 2 yr vs 4 yr factor is big I think. Only 2 yr investment
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and at worst case scenario, we have him at the end of our bench for 2 years to bring in late in games to go to the line
That aint ever a good strategy.
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and at worst case scenario, we have him at the end of our bench for 2 years to bring in late in games to go to the line
That aint ever a good strategy.
What, having good shooters on the roster? Just saying that if he didn't work out to be a big contributor, he could be a valuable shooter off the bench. Hack-a-shaq was coined as such for a reason. Teams won't want to foul a 90% shooter. Lots of good coaches bring in their best foul shooters late in games when teams are fouling.
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Kid shoots over 50% from the floor, nearly 50% from 3 and almost 90% from the line. Good student and deadeye shooter. Sounds like a kid to take a flyer on if he's a good enough athlete to play at this level. Not much harm and at worst case scenario, we have him at the end of our bench for 2 years to bring in late in games to go to the line with D'Lo. Not much to lose if he's a reasonably good prospect per the coaches opinions. I've seen enough unknown and unathletic shooters that have killed us over the years at other schools.
It's nice to find a diamond in the rough but some of those schools are down right scary.
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imagine endgame/close game on offense with branch/green/threeangelo/parga/harkless on attack....Yes
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Per Zags....
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/02/03/st-johns-looking-at-juco-shooter-parga/#more-66596 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/02/03/st-johns-looking-at-juco-shooter-parga/#more-66596)
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With regards to the zags article, I was told St. Mary's is a serious threat for him. They have deep connections to his high school so have likely known about him for a while and he fits into their system very nicely.
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With regards to the zags article, I was told St. Mary's is a serious threat for him. They have deep connections to his high school so have likely known about him for a while and he fits into their system very nicely.
Normally, St. Mary's is a place for good shooters. So, I wouldn't be surprised that they are a serious threat. Not to mention, it's located in Cali and St. Mary's program seems to have made a name for itself of late.
If St. Mary's want him then that is good enough for me to want him. He could one of those deadly options teams forget about while worrying about our other players.
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With regards to the zags article, I was told St. Mary's is a serious threat for him. They have deep connections to his high school so have likely known about him for a while and he fits into their system very nicely.
Normally, St. Mary's is a place for good shooters. So, I wouldn't be surprised that they are a serious threat. Not to mention, it's located in Cali and St. Mary's program seems to have made a name for itself of late.
If St. Mary's want him then that is good enough for me to want him. He could one of those deadly options teams forget about while worrying about our other players.
No doubt st. Mary's is a serious threat because they've been on him all year...until a school like SJU offers. SJU still offers big conference play. Let's remember that the kid's dream school was Columbia University, so he obviously wants to come to NYC. I think that is the kicker here. It says a lot that he wanted to go to Columbia U. I think if Lavin wants him, it will be hard for him to turn down.
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With regards to the zags article, I was told St. Mary's is a serious threat for him. They have deep connections to his high school so have likely known about him for a while and he fits into their system very nicely.
Normally, St. Mary's is a place for good shooters. So, I wouldn't be surprised that they are a serious threat. Not to mention, it's located in Cali and St. Mary's program seems to have made a name for itself of late.
If St. Mary's want him then that is good enough for me to want him. He could one of those deadly options teams forget about while worrying about our other players.
No doubt st. Mary's is a serious threat because they've been on him all year...until a school like SJU offers. SJU still offers big conference play. Let's remember that the kid's dream school was Columbia University, so he obviously wants to come to NYC. I think that is the kicker here. It says a lot that he wanted to go to Columbia U. I think if Lavin wants him, it will be hard for him to turn down.
It says that he's probably really smart. Has St.John's ever successfully recruited a kid with options like that?
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and at worst case scenario, we have him at the end of our bench for 2 years to bring in late in games to go to the line
That aint ever a good strategy.
What, having good shooters on the roster? Just saying that if he didn't work out to be a big contributor, he could be a valuable shooter off the bench. Hack-a-shaq was coined as such for a reason. Teams won't want to foul a 90% shooter. Lots of good coaches bring in their best foul shooters late in games when teams are fouling.
First off, not talking directly about this brother since I aint ever seen him play and dont believe in highlight vids.
But putting "an end of the bench" player into a tight game to shoot FTs is a disaster waiting to happen. Coming in cold, with little play time below yo belt into a pressure situation equals misses no matter how good you stroke it in JC, practice, park.
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and at worst case scenario, we have him at the end of our bench for 2 years to bring in late in games to go to the line
That aint ever a good strategy.
What, having good shooters on the roster? Just saying that if he didn't work out to be a big contributor, he could be a valuable shooter off the bench. Hack-a-shaq was coined as such for a reason. Teams won't want to foul a 90% shooter. Lots of good coaches bring in their best foul shooters late in games when teams are fouling.
First off, not talking directly about this brother since I aint ever seen him play and dont believe in highlight vids.
But putting "an end of the bench" player into a tight game to shoot FTs is a disaster waiting to happen. Coming in cold, with little play time below yo belt into a pressure situation equals misses no matter how good you stroke it in JC, practice, park.
Late in games, if teams are going to purposely foul, I always want my best FT shooters in there. Free throws are something that these kids practice every day in practice. I will take the 90% FT shooter getting fouled, even if he's a bench player every day over the kid shooting 48% from the stripe. Would never put a guy like that in at last minute and try to get him the ball. I'd get it to D'Lo, but still want my best shooters on the floor.
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This is his current list
Portland state
Boston college
Hawaii
CSUN
Texas State
Albany
Fullerton
Hofstra
Eastern Washington
TCU
We are his favorite right now according to my source, if for nothing else we are the best school recruiting him and Lavin's name is still known in Los Angeles.
looks like a recruit norm roberts would be looking at with all those mediocre teams looking at him, i trust lavin though if he thinks the kid is legit, he prolly is
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Not sure if this has been mentioned but this is his third year removed from high school so he is pretty old. He redshirted the 09-10 year at Citrus.
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It's also worth noting that the guy who recruited him to Citrus, Rick Croy, left after his redshirt year to become an assistant at St. Mary's.
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The odds are he s not going to be a star, but he could be a contibuter. Having another consistant 3 point shooter is something we could use.
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It's also worth noting that the guy who recruited him to Citrus, Rick Croy, left after his redshirt year to become an assistant at St. Mary's.
Sounds like he's got deep deep ties to St. Mary's. If we want him, we are going to have to hope he wants to play at the highest level. Also as pointed out, he was interested in Columbia so coming to NY may be attractive.
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It's also worth noting that the guy who recruited him to Citrus, Rick Croy, left after his redshirt year to become an assistant at St. Mary's.
Sounds like he's got deep deep ties to St. Mary's. If we want him, we are going to have to hope he wants to play at the highest level. Also as pointed out, he was interested in Columbia so coming to NY may be attractive.
Columbia is coached by former St. Mary assistant Kyle Smith.
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I wouldn't put too much stake in the Columbia/St. John's New York connection. He didn't have much interest from D1 schools coming out of high school so obviously he would be interested in anyone who wanted him.
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St. Marys is in a great location but it's as different from NYC as anything can be. He sounds like a kid who would be better for St. Mary's than St Johns. We can't offer much in terms of playing time.
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Parga is surprised that a big-time program is after him. This bodes well for us.
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Parga is surprised that a big-time program is after him. This bodes well for us.
So he doesn't think he is a big time player?
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Parga is surprised that a big-time program is after him. This bodes well for us.
So he doesn't think he is a big time player?
I don't know what type of player he thinks he is. All I know is that he is shocked and excited that a big school is talking to him in a serious manner. He has only received serious attention from small schools thus far.
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Parga is surprised that a big-time program is after him. This bodes well for us.
So he doesn't think he is a big time player?
I don't know what type of player he thinks he is. All I know is that he is shocked and excited that a big school is talking to him in a serious manner. He has only received serious attention from small schools thus far.
He looks like he would have been capable of making a few open threes against that syracuse zone today. We need more shooters opposite Harrison. No problem bringing this kid in
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Parga is surprised that a big-time program is after him. This bodes well for us.
So he doesn't think he is a big time player?
Yesterday really got to you, huh?
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Parga is surprised that a big-time program is after him. This bodes well for us.
So he doesn't think he is a big time player?
Yesterday really got to you, huh?
The staff must see something he doesn't see in himself. If they like him I trust them
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Kid shoots over 50% from the floor, nearly 50% from 3 and almost 90% from the line. Good student and deadeye shooter. Sounds like a kid to take a flyer on if he's a good enough athlete to play at this level. Not much harm and at worst case scenario, we have him at the end of our bench for 2 years to bring in late in games to go to the line with D'Lo. Not much to lose if he's a reasonably good prospect per the coaches opinions. I've seen enough unknown and unathletic shooters that have killed us over the years at other schools.
And if he can hit threes from NBA distance, that'll create enough spacing by spreading the floor that little bit extra - and make entry passes into the bigs easier as well.
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This is just the kind of kid we need. Lavin's nuts if he passes. Screw all the athleticsm nonsense. Harrison ain't Michael Jordan and look what he does. It's basketball, not a track meet.
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Parga (6’4/200/SO) is one of the best unsigned shooters in the JUCO ranks and has seen his stock consistently rise throughout the season. He is averaging 19 points and 5 rebounds per game this season. Parga is shooting 51% from the field and 49% from beyond the arc. He is shooting 88% from the free throw line with 120 attempts on the year. Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?p=1171 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?p=1171)
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This is just the kind of kid we need. Lavin's nuts if he passes. Screw all the athleticsm nonsense. Harrison ain't Michael Jordan and look what he does. It's basketball, not a track meet.
I agree. Get this guy asap. Shooting has become a lost art in basketball today, athleticism trumps all. We have athletes(hopefully they stay), now grab some nice roll players.
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This is just the kind of kid we need. Lavin's nuts if he passes. Screw all the athleticsm nonsense. Harrison ain't Michael Jordan and look what he does. It's basketball, not a track meet.
I agree. Get this guy asap. Shooting has become a lost art in basketball today, athleticism trumps all. We have athletes(hopefully they stay), now grab some nice roll players.
I like his step-up midrange too. I think he could be a nice tool to bring off the bench. Lav should get this kid on campus to see how he can handle the elite athleticism of guys like Pointer and Garret. If his IQ is as high as the reports have indicated, he could be very effective creating space for others, making smart passes, and getting open looks from three or from midrange after a shot-fake.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Im not very impressive either. He can put it in the basket, hes eligible. Sign us up. We got plenty of room
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Im not very impressive either. He can put it in the basket, hes eligible. Sign us up. We got plenty of room
We have only 6 scholarship players entering next season. I have no problem signing arguably the bet shooter in JC. We need capable kids and have plenty of space for a JC that can torch the nets. We need quite a few guys. This kid looked pretty good, had great numbers and is starting to attract attention from good programs. Like I said, if the St marys coach has been all over him, it's good enough for me.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
I think Galan is the shooter the staff wants in the 2013 class.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
Those guys arent from California. Count them out
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
Those guys arent from California. Count them out
Another idiotic comment considering the guys we are very close with in the 13'/ 14' classes like Sina, Jordan, Galan, Lawrence, McCullough are all from the east.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
Those guys arent from California. Count them out
Another idiotic comment considering the guys we are very close with in the 13'/ 14' classes like Sina, Jordan, Galan, Lawrence, McCullough are all from the east.
We were close with alot of guys
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
Those guys arent from California. Count them out
Another idiotic comment considering the guys we are very close with in the 13'/ 14' classes like Sina, Jordan, Galan, Lawrence, McCullough are all from the east.
We were close with alot of guys
Not sure what you're talking about, Lavin only has one real recruiting class unde his belt and landed most of the guys he went after.
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
Those guys arent from California. Count them out
Another idiotic comment considering the guys we are very close with in the 13'/ 14' classes like Sina, Jordan, Galan, Lawrence, McCullough are all from the east.
We were close with alot of guys
Not sure what you're talking about, Lavin only has one real recruiting class unde his belt and landed most of the guys he went after.
Polee gone. Sampson,Pelle,Nuri,Gathers,Wood,Jevon Thomas. etc
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
Those guys arent from California. Count them out
Another idiotic comment considering the guys we are very close with in the 13'/ 14' classes like Sina, Jordan, Galan, Lawrence, McCullough are all from the east.
We were close with alot of guys
Not sure what you're talking about, Lavin only has one real recruiting class unde his belt and landed most of the guys he went after.
Polee gone. Sampson,Pelle,Nuri,Gathers,Wood,Jevon Thomas. etc
Wood and Jevon not qualifying for 12'. There are other issues with Jevon that you obviously don't know about. Gathers, well, i wont go there but it was out of our hands. Sampson likely to be here next year. Polee's pops an issue. We also landed some great kids like branch, Greene, Harrison, Garrett, pointer, Gift, Harkless. There will be more. ALL teams have these types of issues. This is part of a recruiting game that goes on everywhere. Youjust don't seem to realize it. It's compounded by us having to replace too many players at once. With 12 open ships, you need to recruit at least 3 guys for each ship and there'll be plenty of strikeouts..
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Parga is being recruited by Boston College, Hawaii, Wyoming, Texas State, St. Johns, TCU and Gardner-Webb.
I´m not very impressive with this list.
Do you want a shooter?
Then show me another shooter.
Yes, I want shooters.
1. I would have put more interest in Bernardi. He went to SMU. But perphaps he didn´t feel confortable with our system of play.
2. In only two minutes and with only 2 attempts Jamal White has scored the same 3 pointers than Amir Garrett (2-11 in Big East Conference) and more than Pointer (1-18 in Big East Conference). Perhaps he could help.
3. Jon Severe (2013 class). Local and with interest from Big East teams.
Those guys arent from California. Count them out
Another idiotic comment considering the guys we are very close with in the 13'/ 14' classes like Sina, Jordan, Galan, Lawrence, McCullough are all from the east.
We were close with alot of guys
Not sure what you're talking about, Lavin only has one real recruiting class unde his belt and landed most of the guys he went after.
Polee gone. Sampson,Pelle,Nuri,Gathers,Wood,Jevon Thomas. etc
Wood and Jevon not qualifying for 12'. There are other issues with Jevon that you obviously don't know about. Gathers, well, i wont go there but it was out of our hands. Sampson likely to be here next year. Polee's pops an issue. We also landed some great kids like branch, Greene, Harrison, Garrett, pointer, Gift, Harkless. There will be more. ALL teams have these types of issues. This is part of a recruiting game that goes on everywhere. Youjust don't seem to realize it. It's compounded by us having to replace too many players at once. With 12 open ships, you need to recruit at least 3 guys for each ship and there'll be plenty of strikeouts..
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Oh I get it. BUt do you remember when all these guys signed. I think about 6 out of the 9 we were worried about being eligible. 3 we sent to Rise. Who sent them there?
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Rise was abad choice. I certainly agree there. Should have split the kids up at Nepsac schools IMO. I don't know who made that the decision, but I think collectively it was a bad one and he staff knows that.
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Baldi are you a fan of this program? You. Ever post anything positive about STJ. Rise was a mistake, but it was a safe bet until this summer. If all three kids didn't go there, we would have been fine. Hindsight is 20/20.
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Rise was abad choice. I certainly agree there. Should have split the kids up at Nepsac schools IMO. I don't know who made that the decision, but I think collectively it was a bad one and he staff knows that.
I think the issue was that there were not many options for summer classes to get these kids qualified.
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Baldi are you a fan of this program? You. Ever post anything positive about STJ. Rise was a mistake, but it was a safe bet until this summer. If all three kids didn't go there, we would have been fine. Hindsight is 20/20.
Lance Stephenson got eligible, the guy is dumber than my sneaker
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Baldi are you a fan of this program? You. Ever post anything positive about STJ. Rise was a mistake, but it was a safe bet until this summer. If all three kids didn't go there, we would have been fine. Hindsight is 20/20.
IVe been the most positive poster on these sites for years. Until this nonsense
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“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @JucoRecruiting: Steve Lavin and Tony Chiles will be in California to watch Brandon Parga of Citrus College tonight.”
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“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @JucoRecruiting: Steve Lavin and Tony Chiles will be in California to watch Brandon Parga of Citrus College tonight.”
I wouldn't mind getting both Parga and his back court mate. A combined 38 ppg from the best JuCO team in Cali to be our scoring pop off the bench? Yes please.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @JucoRecruiting: Steve Lavin and Tony Chiles will be in California to watch Brandon Parga of Citrus College tonight.”
I wouldn't mind getting both Parga and his back court mate. A combined 38 ppg from the best JuCO team in Cali to be our scoring pop off the bench? Yes please.
You love Juco's
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FWIW RT, Juco blogger noted above loves Parga.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @JucoRecruiting: Steve Lavin and Tony Chiles will be in California to watch Brandon Parga of Citrus College tonight.”
I wouldn't mind getting both Parga and his back court mate. A combined 38 ppg from the best JuCO team in Cali to be our scoring pop off the bench? Yes please.
You love Juco's
Lol I do to fill in voids. Look at the job Scooter Merrill does year in and year out at Utah State dealing almost exclusively with jucos and transfers. Parga's teammate, James Walker, who I alluded to above, actually transferred from Utah State. He averaged 10 mpg at PG for a 30-4 tournament team ranked in the top 25. The writeups say he butted heads with Morrill and decided to leave. I wonder if Leaves with some interest in both?
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“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @JucoRecruiting: Steve Lavin and Tony Chiles will be in California to watch Brandon Parga of Citrus College tonight.”
I wouldn't mind getting both Parga and his back court mate. A combined 38 ppg from the best JuCO team in Cali to be our scoring pop off the bench? Yes please.
You love Juco's
Lol I do to fill in voids. Look at the job Scooter Merrill does year in and year out at Utah State dealing almost exclusively with jucos and transfers. Parga's teammate, James Walker, who I alluded to above, actually transferred from Utah State. He averaged 10 mpg at PG for a 30-4 tournament team ranked in the top 25. The writeups say he butted heads with Morrill and decided to leave. I wonder if Leaves with some interest in both?
I agree Juco's are great to plug holes and I want Parga based on his size and shot.
I get scared of small Juco guards who fill it up tho. For every Hardy there is a guy you never hear from.
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Could parga be Dwight Hardy 2.0?
offf the bench that is? :o
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Could parga be Dwight Hardy 2.0?
offf the bench that is? :o
Doesn't look like the same type of player. Maybe he can be something like Bootsy, though. I'd take half of the player Bootsy was.
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Could parga be Dwight Hardy 2.0?
offf the bench that is? :o
Doesn't look like the same type of player. Maybe he can be something like Bootsy, though. I'd take half of the player Bootsy was.
I'd take a Bootsy type in a second exactly what this team could use :up:
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I haven't really seen enough of the kid. In those clips though he looks smooth and can hit shots at different ranges. Never have enough jump shooters. Seems to have good height and build. We need players and especially shooting ability. JC players are a low risk proposition to fill holes in the roster and no matter which freshmen we sign, we wil have room for at least a JUCO or two. We have 7 ships so could easily land 3-4 freshmen and a JC or two and have room for 2013 class. I'll let the staff make the talent decisions, but I'd like to see our team shooting ability collectively improve, whether this kid is coming off the bench or getting serious minutes.
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In the last ten years our 3 best players were Hatten, Hardy and Brownlee.
Jucos are fine with me. I'll take a Juco over an overhyped prep kid that thinks he's God.
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In the last ten years our 3 best players were Hatten, Hardy and Brownlee.
Jucos are fine with me. I'll take a Juco over an overhyped prep kid that thinks he's God.
Agree. Plus before that Bootsy was excellent and Gift is performing quite well for a JC player who's really playing on an island for us this year.
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I learned yesterday of Lavin's connection to Parga. Lavin's first assistant at UCLA, Jim Saia, coached at Parga's school, Citrus College, a few years ago--as did Saia's current first assistant at Fresno Pacific. Saia has a good relationship with Citrus and still actively recruits the school, landing a player just last year. He tipped Lav off to Parga.
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I learned yesterday of Lavin's connection to Parga. Lavin's first assistant at UCLA, Jim Saia, coached at Parga's school, Citrus College, a few years ago--as did Saia's current first assistant at Fresno Pacific. Saia has a good relationship with Citrus and still actively recruits the school, landing a player just last year. He tipped Lav off to Parga.
great news find marillac
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Parga went for 17 points and 5 boards with Lavin in attendance...only 1-4 from the line , though. James Walker, the reigning conference player of the month and Parga's teammate, went for 23 and 8 assists, on 10-13 shooting (2-4 from deep). Just me speculating, but I think Lav offered both after the game, because he posted shortly after that eye was going to sign 5 more players this spring. Walker can play both guard spots and played 10 mpg last year for 30-4 #19 in the country Utah St.
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I learned yesterday of Lavin's connection to Parga. Lavin's first assistant at UCLA, Jim Saia, coached at Parga's school, Citrus College, a few years ago--as did Saia's current first assistant at Fresno Pacific. Saia has a good relationship with Citrus and still actively recruits the school, landing a player just last year. He tipped Lav off to Parga.
Jim Saia is the former head coach at U$C. He's also the reason for the "Lavin sucked because he only hired his buddies as assistants" bull feathers. Saia and Lavs were friends and teammates both in high school and college.
Thing is, Saia wasn't hired by Lavin. He was hired by Jim Harrick as the replacement for Mark Gottfried, when Gottfried got the HC gig at Alabama in 1996. That fall, when Harrick was fired, Steve, with the most experience on the staff, was promoted to intermin HC, and the remainder of the staff was retained by AD Pete Dalis. When they got to the Elite 8 that year (losing only after they lost center Jelani McCoy for the E8 game, DALIS made Steve permanant, AND kept the staff on board. They promptly reeled in the #2 recruiting class in the country (Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Schea Cotton, Billy Knight, Travis Reed, Rico Hines and Todd Ramasar - 2 top 5 players, 3 top 70 players,1 top 100 player, and the #5 prep school player in the country). And they followed that the next year with a sweet 16 (out only when Baron tore his ACL in the round of 32 game), and locked in the #1 Recruiting class in the country - Dan Gadzuric, Jerome Moiso, JaRon rush were all top 10 recuits, whine Ray Young was top 30, and Matt Barnes top 50. They weren't consensus, but both Gadz and Rush were rated by at least one reputable recruiting service as the #1 recruit in the country. Gadz, Rush and Young were McD AAs.
Anyway, just saying Saia is an excellent judge of talent.
To the best of my knowlege, Jim and Steve are still best friends....
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Parga went for 17 points and 5 boards with Lavin in attendance...only 1-4 from the line , though. James Walker, the reigning conference player of the month and Parga's teammate, went for 23 and 8 assists, on 10-13 shooting (2-4 from deep). Just me speculating, but I think Lav offered both after the game, because he posted shortly after that eye was going to sign 5 more players this spring. Walker can play both guard spots and played 10 mpg last year for 30-4 #19 in the country Utah St.
Pretty certain he didn't offer Parga.
As for the other kid never heard of him so no idea.
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Just me speculating, but I think Lav offered both after the game, because he posted shortly after that eye was going to sign 5 more players this spring. Walker can play both guard spots and played 10 mpg last year for 30-4 #19 in the country Utah St.
Pretty certain he didn't offer Parga.
As for the other kid never heard of him so no idea.
James Walker is from California, so there are options to offer.
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I learned yesterday of Lavin's connection to Parga. Lavin's first assistant at UCLA, Jim Saia, coached at Parga's school, Citrus College, a few years ago--as did Saia's current first assistant at Fresno Pacific. Saia has a good relationship with Citrus and still actively recruits the school, landing a player just last year. He tipped Lav off to Parga.
Parga also played at st John Bosco at one point. Lavin has deep ties to both mater Dei and St. John Bosco because of Schea Cotton and others.
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I learned yesterday of Lavin's connection to Parga. Lavin's first assistant at UCLA, Jim Saia, coached at Parga's school, Citrus College, a few years ago--as did Saia's current first assistant at Fresno Pacific. Saia has a good relationship with Citrus and still actively recruits the school, landing a player just last year. He tipped Lav off to Parga.
Jim Saia is the former head coach at U$C. He's also the reason for the "Lavin sucked because he only hired his buddies as assistants" bull feathers. Saia and Lavs were friends and teammates both in high school and college.
Thing is, Saia wasn't hired by Lavin. He was hired by Jim Harrick as the replacement for Mark Gottfried, when Gottfried got the HC gig at Alabama in 1996. That fall, when Harrick was fired, Steve, with the most experience on the staff, was promoted to intermin HC, and the remainder of the staff was retained by AD Pete Dalis. When they got to the Elite 8 that year (losing only after they lost center Jelani McCoy for the E8 game, DALIS made Steve permanant, AND kept the staff on board. They promptly reeled in the #2 recruiting class in the country (Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Schea Cotton, Billy Knight, Travis Reed, Rico Hines and Todd Ramasar - 2 top 5 players, 3 top 70 players,1 top 100 player, and the #5 prep school player in the country). And they followed that the next year with a sweet 16 (out only when Baron tore his ACL in the round of 32 game), and locked in the #1 Recruiting class in the country - Dan Gadzuric, Jerome Moiso, JaRon rush were all top 10 recuits, whine Ray Young was top 30, and Matt Barnes top 50. They weren't consensus, but both Gadz and Rush were rated by at least one reputable recruiting service as the #1 recruit in the country. Gadz, Rush and Young were McD AAs.
Anyway, just saying Saia is an excellent judge of talent.
To the best of my knowlege, Jim and Steve are still best friends....
I was waiting for your response, CR. Excellent info as always. Glad to see Saia is a good judge of talen because we could really use another shooter. Hope you recovery is going well.
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My son and I attended the game last night and saw the family night festivities.
In warmups, Parga probably nailed 45 out of 50 three point shots and a few of them that he missed were knocked away by another basketball hitting his at the rim.
He is a legit 6-5 and has a good build. In terms of footwork, seems a little slow and it was hard to gauge his handle because he rarely drove to the hoop unlike his smaller guard teammates who did little in the way of passing when they got the ball in their hands. A lot of 1 on 1 basketball at Citrus.
Parga had a poor night shooting and was 1-5 in first half (1 layup, 2 missed lay ups, 2 missed 3 pointers). In the second half he hit a jumper and a 3 pointer but missed at least 5-6 open shots.
It could have been nerves due to San Francisco, TCU, and two other schools there at the least. St Mary's may have been in attendance.
You can definitely see this kid can shoot but hard to gauge in this game. He didn't have any hands in his face on the missed jumpers.
I would have liked to see him play in front of the arc more as he usually was stationed in the corners beyond 3 point range.
On defense, he may have some trouble guarding quicker 2's but has long arms.
I was a little disappointed with the results but after thinking about it, a 2 year investment on Parga is definitely worth the gamble. You can teach aggressiveness and defense but can't teach someone to be a pure shooter with size.
As for Walker, the kid is legit PG with some nice size 6-2? He has a great motor and can shoot. Much better than Malik Stith.
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My son and I attended the game last night and saw the family night festivities.
In warmups, Parga probably nailed 45 out of 50 three point shots and a few of them that he missed were knocked away by another basketball hitting his at the rim.
He is a legit 6-5 and has a good build. In terms of footwork, seems a little slow and it was hard to gauge his handle because he rarely drove to the hoop unlike his smaller guard teammates who did little in the way of passing when they got the ball in their hands. A lot of 1 on 1 basketball at Citrus.
Parga had a poor night shooting and was 1-5 in first half (1 layup, 2 missed lay ups, 2 missed 3 pointers). In the second half he hit a jumper and a 3 pointer but missed at least 5-6 open shots.
It could have been nerves due to San Francisco, TCU, and two other schools there at the least. St Mary's may have been in attendance.
You can definitely see this kid can shoot but hard to gauge in this game. He didn't have any hands in his face on the missed jumpers.
I would have liked to see him play in front of the arc more as he usually was stationed in the corners beyond 3 point range.
On defense, he may have some trouble guarding quicker 2's but has long arms.
I was a little disappointed with the results but after thinking about it, a 2 year investment on Parga is definitely worth the gamble. You can teach aggressiveness and defense but can't teach someone to be a pure shooter with size.
As for Walker, the kid is legit PG with some nice size 6-2? He has a great motor and can shoot. Much better than Malik Stith.
Telling us he is much better thab Malik Stith is like telling us he has 2 hands. :)
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My son and I attended the game last night and saw the family night festivities.
In warmups, Parga probably nailed 45 out of 50 three point shots and a few of them that he missed were knocked away by another basketball hitting his at the rim.
He is a legit 6-5 and has a good build. In terms of footwork, seems a little slow and it was hard to gauge his handle because he rarely drove to the hoop unlike his smaller guard teammates who did little in the way of passing when they got the ball in their hands. A lot of 1 on 1 basketball at Citrus.
Parga had a poor night shooting and was 1-5 in first half (1 layup, 2 missed lay ups, 2 missed 3 pointers). In the second half he hit a jumper and a 3 pointer but missed at least 5-6 open shots.
It could have been nerves due to San Francisco, TCU, and two other schools there at the least. St Mary's may have been in attendance.
You can definitely see this kid can shoot but hard to gauge in this game. He didn't have any hands in his face on the missed jumpers.
I would have liked to see him play in front of the arc more as he usually was stationed in the corners beyond 3 point range.
On defense, he may have some trouble guarding quicker 2's but has long arms.
I was a little disappointed with the results but after thinking about it, a 2 year investment on Parga is definitely worth the gamble. You can teach aggressiveness and defense but can't teach someone to be a pure shooter with size.
As for Walker, the kid is legit PG with some nice size 6-2? He has a great motor and can shoot. Much better than Malik Stith.
Telling us he is much better thab Malik Stith is like telling us he has 2 hands. :)
Thanks for the scouting report.
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Does anyone know if we offered Parga or Walker?
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My son and I attended the game last night and saw the family night festivities.
In warmups, Parga probably nailed 45 out of 50 three point shots and a few of them that he missed were knocked away by another basketball hitting his at the rim.
He is a legit 6-5 and has a good build. In terms of footwork, seems a little slow and it was hard to gauge his handle because he rarely drove to the hoop unlike his smaller guard teammates who did little in the way of passing when they got the ball in their hands. A lot of 1 on 1 basketball at Citrus.
Parga had a poor night shooting and was 1-5 in first half (1 layup, 2 missed lay ups, 2 missed 3 pointers). In the second half he hit a jumper and a 3 pointer but missed at least 5-6 open shots.
It could have been nerves due to San Francisco, TCU, and two other schools there at the least. St Mary's may have been in attendance.
You can definitely see this kid can shoot but hard to gauge in this game. He didn't have any hands in his face on the missed jumpers.
I would have liked to see him play in front of the arc more as he usually was stationed in the corners beyond 3 point range.
On defense, he may have some trouble guarding quicker 2's but has long arms.
I was a little disappointed with the results but after thinking about it, a 2 year investment on Parga is definitely worth the gamble. You can teach aggressiveness and defense but can't teach someone to be a pure shooter with size.
As for Walker, the kid is legit PG with some nice size 6-2? He has a great motor and can shoot. Much better than Malik Stith.
Telling us he is much better thab Malik Stith is like telling us he has 2 hands. :)
So you mean he CAN play at this level, won't be asked to transfer?, Will Be effective amongst players with less college hoop experience, and WON'T quit after the 2nd semester starts for next season? RIGHT! ;)
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Walker is a player, not sure how he initially ended up at Southern Utah.
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Iona offers. Supposedly making a visit
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Iona offers. Supposedly making a visit
Ha. Do Cluess and Grasso read Jungle?
Least we might still get to see him.
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Iona offers. Supposedly making a visit
Ha. Do Cluess and Grasso read Jungle?
Least we might still get to see him.
1 has been known to grace the boards
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Signed with Iona. Iona also picked up shooting guard Aj English
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Some of you have had a good look at Parga. What should I expect from him this year at Iona? Sean Armand and Momo are the only locks to start imo, can Parga play the 3? Im not convinced Momo will be the PG, but the only other option would be another Juco Dashawn Gomez. If Armand and Parga are in at the same time, someone should should fill the stat sheet with assists
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Having watched the Gaels a decent amount last year, it was clear that having a PG with the play-making abilities of Machado made all the difference in the world in Cluess' offense. Lots of open looks for their shooters. I think a big key is MoMo being able to make others better, and not just score himself.
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Having watched the Gaels a decent amount last year, it was clear that having a PG with the play-making abilities of Machado made all the difference in the world in Cluess' offense. Lots of open looks for their shooters. I think a big key is MoMo being able to make others better, and not just score himself.
Totally agree. Momo isnt stupid, he knows his only chance at the next level is at the point. He can penetrate and get to hole, thing he needs to learn is to kick it out, Armand and Parga will be waitint on the wings
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Easier to rack up assists when you is throwin the ball down low for a lay than kicking it out to shooters.
Iona gonna look much difft next year. Momo is goin to score. and score. and score.
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Having watched the Gaels a decent amount last year, it was clear that having a PG with the play-making abilities of Machado made all the difference in the world in Cluess' offense. Lots of open looks for their shooters. I think a big key is MoMo being able to make others better, and not just score himself.
Totally agree. Momo isnt stupid, he knows his only chance at the next level is at the point. He can penetrate and get to hole, thing he needs to learn is to kick it out, Armand and Parga will be waitint on the wings
I have seen Parga play, I don't know if he is a game changer
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Having watched the Gaels a decent amount last year, it was clear that having a PG with the play-making abilities of Machado made all the difference in the world in Cluess' offense. Lots of open looks for their shooters. I think a big key is MoMo being able to make others better, and not just score himself.
Totally agree. Momo isnt stupid, he knows his only chance at the next level is at the point. He can penetrate and get to hole, thing he needs to learn is to kick it out, Armand and Parga will be waitint on the wings
I have seen Parga play, I don't know if he is a game changer
Offense off the bench type player?
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Having watched the Gaels a decent amount last year, it was clear that having a PG with the play-making abilities of Machado made all the difference in the world in Cluess' offense. Lots of open looks for their shooters. I think a big key is MoMo being able to make others better, and not just score himself.
Totally agree. Momo isnt stupid, he knows his only chance at the next level is at the point. He can penetrate and get to hole, thing he needs to learn is to kick it out, Armand and Parga will be waitint on the wings
I have seen Parga play, I don't know if he is a game changer
Offense off the bench type player?
Most likely, one game I saw he went like 2-14 from field but he is a much better shooter than that. The following game he didnt shoot much. What I didn't like is that he is like 6'6" and played the entire game beyond the 3 point line.
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He's going to LIU.
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He's going to LIU.
LIU?
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He's going to LIU.
LIU?
Yeah, that's what I've been told. He's currently in LA, leaving for Brooklyn this week.
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He's going to LIU.
LIU?
Yeah, that's what I've been told. He's currently in LA, leaving for Brooklyn this week.
Wonder why he chose LIU. Guess he's not homesick afterall
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13 boards, 3 blocks in loss to KU.
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13 boards, 3 blocks in loss to KU.
For those wondering what he's talking about it's Rico Gather's stats last night.
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13 boards, 3 blocks in loss to KU.
Gathers looked good last night. Much better than he did in the game I saw in Charleston.
With that said Baylor not looking too hot this year.
Much of the same issues we have here have been suggested about Drew as a coach.
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On the subject of Parga, he hasn't played at all this year. I wonder what the deal is.
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Glad this kid is getting some burn after redshirting last year for LIU Brooklyn. Couldn't ask for a nicer kid.
http://www.liuathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1660&path=mbball (http://www.liuathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1660&path=mbball)