6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: we are sju on January 28, 2015, 09:53:27 PM
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I am guessing more drama to come as he played about 5 minutes in the 1st half
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I am guessing more drama to come as he played about 5 minutes in the 1st half
Carnesseca is close to Creighton
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I am guessing more drama to come as he played about 5 minutes in the 1st half
Carnesseca is close to Creighton
I don't care if everything we have heard about him is true. Kid is on the team, play him! Tell him to take a hike next year if he is pain in the arse
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I am guessing more drama to come as he played about 5 minutes in the 1st half
Carnesseca is close to Creighton
I don't care if everything we have heard about him is true. Kid is on the team, play him! Tell him to take a hike next year if he is pain in the arse
Different version of
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No Jordan
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Maybe the back is hurt
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Someone posted that Jordan tweeted something earlier about back issues. Who the hell knows though
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Never seen anything like the drama from game to game with Jordan
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Never seen anything like the drama from game to game with Jordan
Me neither. Every 3 weeks it's something else.
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Strained left knee per Zach on Twitter. Unlikely to return
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Sprained Knee???? Yeah Right!
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No ice on his knee atleast that I can see
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Bet we don't see him again this year.
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Guy tweet something about his back than that "he has a bad feeling" than he plays 4 minutes and hurts his knee? That does not sound iffy?
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No ice on his knee atleast that I can see
Noticed that as well
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Either knee injury total BS or SJU training staff has a no way to treat a sprained knee-Do nothing
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He was just hugging Branch and grinning ear to ear on the bench. He's not being a malcontent, he's hurt.
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Jordan is cheering. If he was benched he would look like a bxtch.
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He was just hugging Branch and grinning ear to ear on the bench. He's not being a malcontent, he's hurt.
Yeah and I had a threesome with Kate Upton and Scarlett Johanson
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He was just hugging Branch and grinning ear to ear on the bench. He's not being a malcontent, he's hurt.
Yeah and I had a threesome with Kate Upton and Scarlett Johanson
Kiss and Tell!!!!
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Tweets plus No ice plus no trainers plus he is Jordan equals something going on
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Good call wasju.
I used to be a doubter, now I have no doubt.
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you'd be foolish not to be suspicious...
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another loss
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Feel bad that Harrison will have never made a tourney.
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Feel bad that Harrison will have never made a tourney.
So true. Great warrior & never gets a taste.
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Should be an interesting week...
#whynot?
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He was just hugging Branch and grinning ear to ear on the bench. He's not being a malcontent, he's hurt.
Maybe Rysheed Drama is psychic, or there is a rip in the space time continuum like in Donnie Darko. Tweets very prophetic. He got hurt and his bad feeling came true as well
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He was just hugging Branch and grinning ear to ear on the bench. He's not being a malcontent, he's hurt.
Maybe Rysheed Drama is psychic, or there is a rip in the space time continuum like in Donnie Darko. Tweets very prophetic. He got hurt and his bad feeling came true as well
#pointshaving
#getmoney
#whynot?
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He was just hugging Branch and grinning ear to ear on the bench. He's not being a malcontent, he's hurt.
Maybe Rysheed Drama is psychic, or there is a rip in the space time continuum like in Donnie Darko. Tweets very prophetic. He got hurt and his bad feeling came true as well
#pointshaving
#getmoney
#whynot?
Honestly don't think the betting thing is true, but at this point I would consider almost anything
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ice = 0 chance of playing
no ice = more than 0 chance of playing
Sorry to bust the conspiracy.
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ice = 0 chance of playing
no ice = more than 0 chance of playing
Sorry to bust the conspiracy.
But they ruled him out at halftime. It was obvious there was 0 chance of him playing. So why no ice?
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ice = 0 chance of playing
no ice = more than 0 chance of playing
Sorry to bust the conspiracy.
They said he was out at the half Dave. When I sprained my knee they put Ice on it to you know reduce swelling for MRI and stuff. But if you are right I will call the hospital for special surgery and ask why they did not recommend the do nothing treatment for me. Maybe I have a lawsuit
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Kid needed a blanket party months ago
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I hope he enjoys playing against Stephon in China
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stephon will school him
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ice = 0 chance of playing
no ice = more than 0 chance of playing
Sorry to bust the conspiracy.
They said he was out at the half Dave. When I sprained my knee they put Ice on it to you know reduce swelling for MRI and stuff. But if you are right I will call the hospital for special surgery and ask why they did not recommend the do nothing treatment for me. Maybe I have a lawsuit
I didn't know they ruled him out at halftime. I watched all of 5 min of the game.
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ice = 0 chance of playing
no ice = more than 0 chance of playing
Sorry to bust the conspiracy.
They said he was out at the half Dave. When I sprained my knee they put Ice on it to you know reduce swelling for MRI and stuff. But if you are right I will call the hospital for special surgery and ask why they did not recommend the do nothing treatment for me. Maybe I have a lawsuit
I didn't know they ruled him out at halftime. I watched all of 5 min of the game.
watch the game and you'll see him chilling on the bench, jumping up and bouncing around during good plays and around the time outs.
Such a joke that our pompous coach benches our best player more games than not.
Get this clown coach outta here, i don't care WHAT he did, LET HIM PLAY THE GAME!
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How the hell isn't someone (coaching staff, SID, anyone) monitoring this kids twitter account? He's posting racial & homophobic slurs and is challenging people to fights.
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How the hell isn't someone (coaching staff, SID, anyone) monitoring this kids twitter account? He's posting racial & homophobic slurs and is challenging people to fights.
Might not be on team anymore for all we know, so they might not care
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How the hell isn't someone (coaching staff, SID, anyone) monitoring this kids twitter account? He's posting racial & homophobic slurs and is challenging people to fights.
Might not be on team anymore for all we know, so they might not care
Smart comment.
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How the hell isn't someone (coaching staff, SID, anyone) monitoring this kids twitter account? He's posting racial & homophobic slurs and is challenging people to fights.
Might not be on team anymore for all we know, so they might not care
Smart comment.
Hearing anything Paultz or just speculating based off of how everything played out yesterday, like I am?
I reached out to the one source I have but nothing yet.
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How the hell isn't someone (coaching staff, SID, anyone) monitoring this kids twitter account? He's posting racial & homophobic slurs and is challenging people to fights.
Might not be on team anymore for all we know, so they might not care
Smart comment.
Hearing anything Paultz or just speculating based off of how everything played out yesterday, like I am?
I reached out to the one source I have but nothing yet.
Speculating on fact he has been a chronic problem for staff to manage & lacks commitment to get in line. As season goes further south I just see this relationship worsening. What a waste of talent.
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How the hell isn't someone (coaching staff, SID, anyone) monitoring this kids twitter account? He's posting racial & homophobic slurs and is challenging people to fights.
Might not be on team anymore for all we know, so they might not care
Smart comment.
Hearing anything Paultz or just speculating based off of how everything played out yesterday, like I am?
I reached out to the one source I have but nothing yet.
Speculating on fact he has been a chronic problem for staff to manage & lacks commitment to get in line. As season goes further south I just see this relationship worsening. What a waste of talent.
Yeah I think he is gone before BET
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Jordan is not a heady player. If you watch him play he makes some of the dumbest mistakes I've seen. I used to rip on Pointer endlessly but Jordan is the new king of No basketball IQ. He makes horrible passes, tries to dribble through multiple defenders when nothing's there and his defense is shaky at best. I'm not that impressed with him and if he thinks he's playing in the league then it better be the one with the D in front of it.
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How the hell isn't someone (coaching staff, SID, anyone) monitoring this kids twitter account? He's posting racial & homophobic slurs and is challenging people to fights.
Might not be on team anymore for all we know, so they might not care
Smart comment.
Hearing anything Paultz or just speculating based off of how everything played out yesterday, like I am?
I reached out to the one source I have but nothing yet.
Speculating on fact he has been a chronic problem for staff to manage & lacks commitment to get in line. As season goes further south I just see this relationship worsening. What a waste of talent.
Yeah I think he is gone before BET
Nothing would surprise me.
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Like I said a long time ago, Jordan is a punk. There's a reason why he chose STJohns
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that's not his twitter feed, i don't think.
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that's not his twitter feed, i don't think.
even Braziller has turned to the darkside and acknowledges that Sheed is running a second account.
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Like I said a long time ago, Jordan is a punk. There's a reason why he chose STJohns
And why Turgeon mysteriously backed off when he really needed a PG back then...Stoglin was enough of a headache to shake him up - lol
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Why does everyone jump to the worst conclusion? Maybe he actually injured his leg. No mercy on this sight. It's like sliding down a bannister and then it turns into a razor blade............ :-\
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Why does everyone jump to the worst conclusion? Maybe he actually injured his leg. No mercy on this sight. It's like sliding down a bannister and then it turns into a razor blade............ :-\
If you watched the game, heard about his tweets or have been following the program the last 2 years you wouldn't have posted this nonsense. He was not hurt. Expect another leave of absence or worse once the program fully realizes there is no hope for an NCAA bid this year.
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Why does everyone jump to the worst conclusion? Maybe he actually injured his leg. No mercy on this sight. It's like sliding down a bannister and then it turns into a razor blade............ :-\
Or This... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfMp9L_gG4g
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He hurt his leg, he was shaking his leg on the bench then the trainer came over.
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He tweeted:
@blackjesus23_ ยท 13h 13 hours ago
Hurt my knee in pain like crazy 😡😡😠😠
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Why does everyone jump to the worst conclusion? Maybe he actually injured his leg. No mercy on this sight. It's like sliding down a bannister and then it turns into a razor blade............ :-\
Or This... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfMp9L_gG4g
Easily the best post in the history of JJ. Although I hope for the dog's sake he's already neutered or his boys haven't dropped yet...or that it's female.
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He hurt his leg, he was shaking his leg on the bench then the trainer came over.
How is his back? Or his bad feeling? Tweeted that too.
If he is hurt than his relationship with team is even worse than I thought as no trainer looked at him the whole time was on the bench and again no ice. Maybe SJU does not have a trainer, or can afford to send him on the road? Becuase that is the only way I buy he was really hurt
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He hurt his leg, he was shaking his leg on the bench then the trainer came over.
How is his back? Or his bad feeling? Tweeted that too.
If he is hurt than his relationship with team is even worse than I thought as no trainer looked at him the whole time was on the bench and again no ice. Maybe SJU does not have a trainer, or can afford to send him on the road? Becuase that is the only way I buy he was really hurt
How do you know no trainer looked at him? The camera wasn't on him the whole time.
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He hurt his leg, he was shaking his leg on the bench then the trainer came over.
How is his back? Or his bad feeling? Tweeted that too.
If he is hurt than his relationship with team is even worse than I thought as no trainer looked at him the whole time was on the bench and again no ice. Maybe SJU does not have a trainer, or can afford to send him on the road? Becuase that is the only way I buy he was really hurt
How do you know no trainer looked at him? The camera wasn't on him the whole time.
He sat behind Lavin the whole time. If you think you damaged your knee you have to ice it because you can't get MRI until swelling goes down
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He hurt his leg, he was shaking his leg on the bench then the trainer came over.
How is his back? Or his bad feeling? Tweeted that too.
If he is hurt than his relationship with team is even worse than I thought as no trainer looked at him the whole time was on the bench and again no ice. Maybe SJU does not have a trainer, or can afford to send him on the road? Becuase that is the only way I buy he was really hurt
How do you know no trainer looked at him? The camera wasn't on him the whole time.
He sat behind Lavin the whole time. If you think you damaged your knee you have to ice it because you can't get MRI until swelling goes down
But how does that prove the trainer didn't look at him?
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He hurt his leg, he was shaking his leg on the bench then the trainer came over.
How is his back? Or his bad feeling? Tweeted that too.
If he is hurt than his relationship with team is even worse than I thought as no trainer looked at him the whole time was on the bench and again no ice. Maybe SJU does not have a trainer, or can afford to send him on the road? Becuase that is the only way I buy he was really hurt
How do you know no trainer looked at him? The camera wasn't on him the whole time.
He sat behind Lavin the whole time. If you think you damaged your knee you have to ice it because you can't get MRI until swelling goes down
But how does that prove the trainer didn't look at him?
He came out early and I was confused. He went back in and he looked fine. Came out again and I watched as Lavin talked to him and he was behind Lavin the whole game. If nothing was going on and they were concerned they could have kept him in locker room or he would have sat at end of bench where hurt guys go so trainer can work on them. If it was a knee injury you ice and elevate. You don't sit behind the coach with no ice and no trainer for 35 minutes. Even if his tweeting was not made public I would have been skeptical of this.
And just for the record I never question someone being hurt. That is not why I am convinced it was something else . Knee injury for basketball player is huge and if you are going to take the precaution of sitting him, someone would be checking it out and he would have iced it. If he is hurt, trust me we have bigger problems then because they did nothing for him. I would bet the ranch he is not hurt
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And just to be clear, I am not saying he is dogging it or pretending to be hurt, something is going on with him and Lavin again.
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@KieranDarcy: No change in Rysheed Jordan's status after doctor exam, per St. John's spokesman. Strained patellar tendon, day-to-day #sjubb
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For all those who question whether Rysheed is hurt or not here is link about his injury. Notice symptoms and treatment.
http://www.corephysicians.org/news-and-health-library/health-library/injuries/inju3197/
Seems like SJU is trying to put one over on everybody.
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I first posted that their was no ice. I still rule out nothing . However if he was benched, no way he sits on bench no way he cheers his teammates on. He sat where the 1st sub would sit, near Lavin and next to assistants. I think he is hurt, can't blame anyone who would question him.
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I saw the trainer go over to him on the bench when he was shaking his leg.
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Initial diagnosis is always a strain until you get the MRI becuase they have no idea until then.
I have no inside info so this is strictly my opinion. I don't think he was hurt. I think something else is going on and I don't think he plays another game for SJU. I will tell you this, if he is able to play the next game,and does Jordan /Lavin put team in terrible spot last game in what was a must win situation.
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Sorry, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.. The first 4-5 times was plenty. When you have the rep of a flake, you invite this kind of speculation.
I don't think he's hurt either.
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I don't think he gets the benefit of the doubt. I think he would have left or played with cell phone on the bench if he was not allowed to play. Also think the players would have shunned him if he got in trouble again.
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I don't think he gets the benefit of the doubt. I think he would have left or played with cell phone on the bench if he was not allowed to play. Also think the players would have shunned him if he got in trouble again.
As a general rule players always side with the player no matter who the coach is
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Sorry, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.. The first 4-5 times was plenty. When you have the rep of a flake, you invite this kind of speculation.
I don't think he's hurt either.
Him being hurt did not past the eye test for me last game. Throw in his ominous tweets before the game and his two year history here and well....
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Agreed
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toothache.
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toothache.
Missed more games in under 2 seasons than Chris Mullin, Malik Sealy, Mark Jackson & Felipe Lopez missed in combined 16 years
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Chronic team rules violator, history of bowing out of some games, suspension, going AWOL to Philly, etc. = Zero benefit of doubt. Heard months ago assistant coaches were frustrated by his NBA showcase agenda, aversion to practice & overall non compliance with even simple rules. Having separate set of rules for him has only enabled this crappy behavior. We all sympathize with his background & family challenges. That said, Harrison also had incredible hurdles, but got his act together. Jordan seems to lack the motivation to do that. Waste of talent & his selfishness is unfair to his teammates.
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Chronic team rules violator, history of bowing out of some games, suspension, going AWOL to Philly, etc. = Zero benefit of doubt. Heard months ago assistant coaches were frustrated by his NBA showcase agenda, aversion to practice & overall non compliance with even simple rules. Having separate set of rules for him has only enabled this crappy behavior. We all sympathize with his background & family challenges. That said, Harrison also had incredible hurdles, but got his act together. Jordan seems to lack the motivation to do that. Waste of talent & his selfishness is unfair to his teammates.
The only criticism of Lavin with this is I think you have to shite or get off the bowl. If these things we have heard are true, kick him off the team. If not, just run him out there, team is better with him. This in between sucks!
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Chronic team rules violator, history of bowing out of some games, suspension, going AWOL to Philly, etc. = Zero benefit of doubt. Heard months ago assistant coaches were frustrated by his NBA showcase agenda, aversion to practice & overall non compliance with even simple rules. Having separate set of rules for him has only enabled this crappy behavior. We all sympathize with his background & family challenges. That said, Harrison also had incredible hurdles, but got his act together. Jordan seems to lack the motivation to do that. Waste of talent & his selfishness is unfair to his teammates.
The only criticism of Lavin with this is I think you have to shite or get off the bowl. If these things we have heard are true, kick him off the team. If not, just run him out there, team is better with him. This in between sucks!
Can't argue with that.
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@SportsInsights: #NCAAB #StJohns - Rysheed Jordan, Knee - is upgraded to probable Saturday (1/31) vs. Providence
Holy water I guess. :)
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@SportsInsights: #NCAAB #StJohns - Rysheed Jordan, Knee - is upgraded to probable Saturday (1/31) vs. Providence
Holy water I guess. :)
What's the spread?
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That said, Harrison also had incredible hurdles, but got his act together. Jordan seems to lack the motivation to do that.
To the extent that Harrison getting his act together wasn't merely natural maturation, it happened after his sophomore year. Jordan hasn't even reached the point in his career by which Harrison was suspended.
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I don't accept the premise that Harrison needed to mature in the first place, or has significantly changed during his time at St Johns. He is just slightly less demonstrative than he was when he got here.
But he gets more respect from officials now.
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at least we know sheed keeps it 100.
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I still think Branch should start. If Jordan must start if he is to play at all then Green should sit. Green burned way to much clock just about killing our chances. Not anything like what you would expect from a senior. I don't think the team has much of a chance to go anywhere but would hate to see them put up a 4-14.
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http://www.outsports.com/2015/1/30/7943221/rysheed-jordan-st-johns-gay-twitter-fierce person .
The website keeps changing the f word to fierce person, so just change that in the link and there is a story about a homophobic tweet he sent with a quote from Jordan.
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I will tell you this, if he is able to play the next game,and does Jordan /Lavin put team in terrible spot last game in what was a must win situation.
How is it that any different than the Butler game?
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If the kid is shaving points he needs to let us know so we all get rich.
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If the kid is shaving points he needs to let us know so we all get rich.
Just bet against St Johns, never cover
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http://www.outsports.com/2015/1/30/7943221/rysheed-jordan-st-johns-gay-twitter-fierce person
No good on the link
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link can't be posted because it uses the word f_ag in it, and Dave censors that word to person on here: try this one
http://goo.gl/GqxueQ
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This sheds light on a few things
1) That account is in fact Rysheeds
2) Lavin and SJU are now 100% confirming this account belongs to Rysheed
3) Rysheed has been tweeting to his hearts content this entire season
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Political correctness at its best. Non issue to me
Having a twitter account is a different story I guess.
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he's done.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
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It is funny I was at least smart enough to try and hide the stupid things I did and thought in college. Don't understand why people think other people want to know all the stupid things they do and say??? I guess I am getting old
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
:)
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This kid just takes up too much f'n time, legit issue or not. Apology issued in Philly from the Rocky statue?
@NYPost_Brazille: Oh boy. Rysheed Jordan tweets his way into trouble for anti-gay message, apologizes @SBNation http://t.co/8ikTs69pAm #sjubb
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@NYPost_Brazille: This proves Rysheed Jordan has been tweeting all year, breaking Steve Lavin's social media rule. Still believe the leave of absence story?
@NYPost_Brazille: Maybe the media ban isn't quite working out with Rysheed Jordan? Stunning suggestion, I know. #sjubb
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
It's not nice, and should probably know better, but I'm not ready to competently throw away the season because he said a bad word that probably 90% of the people he knows use multiple times throughout a day, and think nothing of it.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
It's not nice, and should probably know better, but I'm not ready to competently throw away the season because he said a bad word that probably 90% of the people he knows use multiple times throughout a day, and think nothing of it.
If it was an isolated issue, sure, i agree.. How much shit should this team, school, and coach take from this kid? Enough.
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If a coach brings in good players he can cut a problem loose without hurting the other players or the fans. Not saying we are or could ever be on the Kansas level, but hard to imagine coach Self taking any BS at all. Having only 6 guys you have faith in and a bunch of stuff can go wrong. This situation all the making of one man.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
It's not nice, and should probably know better, but I'm not ready to competently throw away the season because he said a bad word that probably 90% of the people he knows use multiple times throughout a day, and think nothing of it.
If it was an isolated issue, sure, i agree.. How much shit should this team, school, and coach take from this kid? Enough.
Absolutely. If he is ignoring the in season Twitter ban, why allow that while teammates comply? So tired of this crap.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
It's not nice, and should probably know better, but I'm not ready to competently throw away the season because he said a bad word that probably 90% of the people he knows use multiple times throughout a day, and think nothing of it.
Except it's not really a bad word. You have to go a long way to get from calling someone a <whatever word fierce person defaults to on JJ> to homophobia, meaning fear and loathing of homosexuals. If you call someone a c*cksucker what does that mean? That they place penises in their mouth and swallow? Or that they're an a rear of a donkey? This sort of policing of language is childish and stupid. Ghey even.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
It's not nice, and should probably know better, but I'm not ready to competently throw away the season because he said a bad word that probably 90% of the people he knows use multiple times throughout a day, and think nothing of it.
If it was an isolated issue, sure, i agree.. How much shit should this team, school, and coach take from this kid? Enough.
Absolutely. If he is ignoring the in season Twitter ban, why allow that while teammates comply? So tired of this crap.
Why is it that the ban exists at all? In Louie's autobiography he talks about Wooden's ban on players talking to the press - which you know is where Lavin got this, he's not smart enough to think of anything for himself. Lou said that Wooden was wrong, that as an educator it was his job to prepare his players for life after basketball, and that included instilling in them the ability to speak in public in an appropriate manner, that teaching his charges to deal with to the press - with people - was part of his job. What's Lavin's job?
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
It's not nice, and should probably know better, but I'm not ready to competently throw away the season because he said a bad word that probably 90% of the people he knows use multiple times throughout a day, and think nothing of it.
If it was an isolated issue, sure, i agree.. How much shit should this team, school, and coach take from this kid? Enough.
Absolutely. If he is ignoring the in season Twitter ban, why allow that while teammates comply? So tired of this crap.
Why is it that the ban exists at all? In Louie's autobiography he talks about Wooden's ban on players talking to the press - which you know is where Lavin got this, he's not smart enough to think of anything for himself. Lou said that Wooden was wrong, that as an educator it was his job to prepare his players for life after basketball, and that included instilling in them the ability to speak in public in an appropriate manner, that teaching his charges to deal with to the press - with people - was part of his job. What's Lavin's job?
You can certainly question utility of the rule. Apparently the rule is being disregarded,with no consequence, by one individual. If that is the case, eliminate the rule. You shouldn't selectively enforce it.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
It's not nice, and should probably know better, but I'm not ready to competently throw away the season because he said a bad word that probably 90% of the people he knows use multiple times throughout a day, and think nothing of it.
If it was an isolated issue, sure, i agree.. How much shit should this team, school, and coach take from this kid? Enough.
Absolutely. If he is ignoring the in season Twitter ban, why allow that while teammates comply? So tired of this crap.
Why is it that the ban exists at all? In Louie's autobiography he talks about Wooden's ban on players talking to the press - which you know is where Lavin got this, he's not smart enough to think of anything for himself. Lou said that Wooden was wrong, that as an educator it was his job to prepare his players for life after basketball, and that included instilling in them the ability to speak in public in an appropriate manner, that teaching his charges to deal with to the press - with people - was part of his job. What's Lavin's job?
You can certainly question utility of the rule. Apparently the rule is being disregarded,with no consequence, by one individual. If that is the case, eliminate the rule. You shouldn't selectively enforce it.
All I can say to that is that it's a stupid rule. Under the current regime RJ could send a telegram to the pope that says obscene things about the baby jesus's sex life and that's fine, but if he tweets a picture of what he had for lunch, that's a violation of team rules. That's an issue with the rules, not the content of a particular player's instagram account.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
Being insubordinate to the GAPLs rules is obviously worse than abandoning coach and team.
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He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
He should be suspended for the twitter thing... Makes him and the school look dumb.... Can we trade "Rysheeds" with Duke, even though they are spelled differently?
I'd be willing to take the risk.
He should be suspended now? For tweeting? But not leaving the team 12 times?
Yes. I would imagine he was given one last chance after the last time.
Now he tweets a homophobic slur at someone... Innocent or not, in my book, is say he blew his final shot. Not even taking into consideration what may or may not have happened against Creighton.
If I did that I'd probably get fired from my job.
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Well it looks like he's playing tomorrow. So the bogus injury, homosexual tweets, and multiple abandonements mean nothing to the staff. Probably why he came here.
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Well it looks like he's playing tomorrow. So the bogus injury, homosexual tweets, and multiple abandonements mean nothing to the staff. Probably why he came here.
"Any discipline to Jordan will likely come from the administration and not the basketball program as every St. John's student must follow a student code of conduct. A school statement said "matters like these are taken seriously."
@RogRubin: St. John's issue Friday wasn't Rysheed Jordan's knee, but his fingers. Guard apologizes for homophobic tweet. NYDN: http://t.co/KDVFvsE0J9.
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Well it looks like he's playing tomorrow. So the bogus injury, homosexual tweets, and multiple abandonements mean nothing to the staff. Probably why he came here.
"Any discipline to Jordan will likely come from the administration and not the basketball program as every St. John's student must follow a student code of conduct. A school statement said "matters like these are take"
@RogRubin: St. John's issue Friday wasn't Rysheed Jordan's knee, but his fingers. Guard apologizes for homophobic tweet. NYDN: http://t.co/KDVFvsE0J9.
Time for the new president to clean house
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In general I'm not a big fan of punishing people for what they think or say, no matter how insulting their message may be. Words are just that.
On the other hand, Jordan has seemingly broken several team rules this season. That to me is the far greater sin in this situation.
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He said he was sorry. That's more than a lot of other people who say things they aren't supposed to in regards to gay people. I'm ready to move on. As long as he doesn't kill anyone (and even in that circumstance, it would depend on who) he should be out there, because damn, we need him badly.
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Well it looks like he's playing tomorrow. So the bogus injury, homosexual tweets, and multiple abandonements mean nothing to the staff. Probably why he came here.
lmfao As I said when RJ sat and Lavin kneeled to talk to him, I could see RJ smirking.
Then when the announces said it was a leg injury I was like wtf???
He didn't look hurt to me.
Was lavin covering for RJ because he didn't want to play?
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Got to give the training staff all the credit. Guy is hurt so bad he can only play 5 minutes in a must win game where his replacement fouls out in a close game. They then come up with the radical treatment of do nothing and magically the guy is ready to play the very next game. Maybe after practice the training staff gave him the Mr Miyagi cure? Oh wait supposedly Jordan does not go to practice. Think they made a house call to Philly to give him the Miyagi?
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In general I'm not a big fan of punishing people for what they think or say - Desco
Now what they wear, a different story.....
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So Harrison got suspended, yet this punk keeps getting invited back?
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So Harrison got suspended, yet this punk keeps getting invited back?
It took 13,606 posts plus however many on BEB but I agree 100% with this post, well minus punk part
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This is the predicament that Lavin and Co. put us in by not recruiting enough players who could contribute this year. If we had another guy who could score, we wouldn't be having this discussion. As I stated in another thread, we pretty much have to play him a this point to have a chance at winning some games. I have to think that D-Lo and Co. are on board with this and that if they expressed a contrary view, he would be gone. If he helps our seniors and Chris win games, than I don't care at this point. And then good riddance.
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Why are grown men...including senior citizens...reading some teenager's private posts anyway?
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In general I'm not a big fan of punishing people for what they think or say - Desco
Now what they wear, a different story.....
yup. how you dress for work matters when you're on national tv.
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Why are grown men...including senior citizens...reading some teenager's private posts anyway?
Because the teenager performs on national tv and is covered by the ny media.
There are new forms of communication newsie, what qualifies as sports related news isn't decided by Red Smith sitting in the Herald tribune offices smoking stogies.
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Bad News Barnes Lite....except BB performed like a house on fire most of the time
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I think I'm crazy checking in on this site at least once a day, now guys who follow a 19yr olds tweets??? lol can anyone say this site has "jump the shark"?
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clear as day: lavin bending over backwards to do anything to win to keep his job. excuse he gives to admin and his wife is that he is doing it for the seniors. but not. and the poor kids know they have to suck it up and kiss rj's butt to get a chance to make the dance. prediction: once we lose a few more games, the loser quits, and when the loser is done, we start to play better. too late for the dance, but nonetheless, go into BET with a legitimate shot.
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In general I'm not a big fan of punishing people for what they think or say, no matter how insulting their message may be. Words are just that.
On the other hand, Jordan has seemingly broken several team rules this season. That to me is the far greater sin in this situation.
Words are just words if people think your a top hoopster. If a young person puts the wrong words on the internet it could cost him entrance to college or a job interview which he thought he aced. I guess words can be more then words. In the 2012 election cycle a couple of dopes cost themselves senate seats because of words. Of course they were real nice persons.
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp
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I guess now we know why Lavin won't let him near reporters/Microphones
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp
After he entered the game, the first play Sheed skied above everyone on the court for a rebound. And they had him on Dunn most of the time he was in. This is a guy who was so hurt he couldnt play Wednesday? Not exactly breaking news, but no f**ing way was he hurt. At all.
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp
After he entered the game, the first play Sheed skied above everyone on the court for a rebound. And they had him on Dunn most of the time he was in. This is a guy who was so hurt he couldnt play Wednesday? Not exactly breaking news, but no f**ing way was he hurt. At all.
Me and a few others said that since after the Creighton game.
Lavin is on some shady type shit. On the realz
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp
After he entered the game, the first play Sheed skied above everyone on the court for a rebound. And they had him on Dunn most of the time he was in. This is a guy who was so hurt he couldnt play Wednesday? Not exactly breaking news, but no f**ing way was he hurt. At all.
Me and a few others said that since after the Creighton game.
Lavin is on some shady type shit. On the realz
Please translate, Marshawn....
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp
After he entered the game, the first play Sheed skied above everyone on the court for a rebound. And they had him on Dunn most of the time he was in. This is a guy who was so hurt he couldnt play Wednesday? Not exactly breaking news, but no f**ing way was he hurt. At all.
Me and a few others said that since after the Creighton game.
Lavin is on some shady type shit. On the realz
Please translate, Marshawn....
:) :) :)
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp
After he entered the game, the first play Sheed skied above everyone on the court for a rebound. And they had him on Dunn most of the time he was in. This is a guy who was so hurt he couldnt play Wednesday? Not exactly breaking news, but no f**ing way was he hurt. At all.
Me and a few others said that since after the Creighton game.
Lavin is on some shady type shit. On the realz
Please translate, Marshawn....
Oh I didn't type proper huh? oh well.
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp
After he entered the game, the first play Sheed skied above everyone on the court for a rebound. And they had him on Dunn most of the time he was in. This is a guy who was so hurt he couldnt play Wednesday? Not exactly breaking news, but no f**ing way was he hurt. At all.
Me and a few others said that since after the Creighton game.
Lavin is on some shady type shit. On the realz
Please translate, Marshawn....
Oh I didn't type proper huh? oh well.
Oh stewardess, I speak jive.
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@JonRothstein: SJU's Rysheed Jordan is available vs. Providence but won't start for disciplinary reasons. Here's more @CBSSports: http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp (http://t.co/0oWxwhqcHp)
After he entered the game, the first play Sheed skied above everyone on the court for a rebound. And they had him on Dunn most of the time he was in. This is a guy who was so hurt he couldnt play Wednesday? Not exactly breaking news, but no f**ing way was he hurt. At all.
Me and a few others said that since after the Creighton game.
Lavin is on some shady type shit. On the realz
Please translate, Marshawn....
Oh I didn't type proper huh? oh well.
Liny B on the Mic