6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marco Baldi on July 01, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
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Hearing they are furious how things went down and think they were railroaded by our new coach. Hence some false rumors
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Lotta false rumors.
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Hearing they are furious how things went down and think they were railroaded by our new coach. Hence some false rumors
I'm furious with how they recruited.
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Please. I was a huge supporter of the staff for the first few years. Had they showed the same degree of care, responsibility and thoroughness the past few years on the recruiting front, the fan base would have been clamoring for an extension, even accepting the fact that the in-game coaching, player drama and spin had much to be desired. They have no one to blame but themselves.
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Please. I was a huge supporter of the staff for the first few years. Had they showed the same degree of care, responsibility and thoroughness the past few years on the recruiting front, the fan base would have been clamoring for an extension, even accepting the fact that the in-game coaching, player drama and spin had much to be desired. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Some were calling for extension
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Sucks if true. Ready to forget about all of them tbh. Season can't start soon enough.
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I call bull on this one
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Smells of Fratto's work...
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I call bull on this one
Agree
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I call bull on this one
Agree
You guys still looking for that "continuity ".
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Who cares? Assuming it is true in terms of spreading a rumor exactly what does it mean?
So because someone on the former staff says they won't be eligible that means the NCAA won't clear them?
OK well then I will start a rumor that Derryck Thornton of Duke won't qualify? I guess that means the NCAA won't clear them.
Trying to sabotage would be telling the actual recruit NOT to go to SJU after you have been fired. Starting a rumor on something you have no control over (meaning Steve Lavin or anyone formerly employed at SJU has ZERO control over the NCAA Eligibility Center) means nothing.
There is no secret that Lovett has eligibility issues and you don't need a rumor to convince people of that.
And that assumes it is true. It is a waste of time either way.
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I call bull on this one
Agree
You guys still looking for that "continuity ".
I don't understand what that means so your saying that if Lavin were given an extension he would intentionally try to sabotage himself by starting rumors that his own players would be ineligible?
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Who cares? Assuming it is true in terms of spreading a rumor exactly what does it mean?
So because someone on the former staff says they won't be eligible that means the NCAA won't clear them?
OK well then I will start a rumor that Derryck Thornton of Duke won't qualify? I guess that means the NCAA won't clear them.
Trying to sabotage would be telling the actual recruit NOT to go to SJU after you have been fired. Starting a rumor on something you have no control over (meaning Steve Lavin or anyone formerly employed at SJU has ZERO control over the NCAA Eligibility Center) means nothing.
There is no secret that Lovett has eligibility issues and you don't need a rumor to convince people of that.
And that assumes it is true. It is a waste of time either way.
Fordham coached at Duke? :)
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What if I told you that a former HC at SJU joined the staff in 2011 of an SEC school recruiting a top local HS player against SJU.
And what if I told you that former HC was telling local reporters that he thought that this said player would be better off at SHU who was also recruiting him at the time and a finalist with SJU. Even at the time that SJU was in real good shape with him.
This said player ended up going to UCLA in the end.
Ask me if I care? I don't. Ask me if this former HC was probably a little bitter about being let go and probably not averse to privately rooting against SJU? Probably true and again I don't care. I think this former HC helped SJU thru some very difficult circumstances and in the end it did not work out but I don't hold any grudges against him and more importantly he is not at SJU so I could care less.
Follow me. Take my advice and have the same attitude.
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Fordham, sju fans still a pretty tight community overall. Rumors etc certainly can be blown off. Guys like Mr Google etc are rabble rousing. I understand your point, but people don't have to like this type of stuff. It's childish to do so especially as a former spokesperson, in whatever role.
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Hearing they are furious how things went down and think they were railroaded by our new coach. Hence some false rumors
This doesn't make any sense. For all the hate the UCLA fans spewed towards Lavin, there wasn't a single hint of him doing anything like this. They would never hold back a chance to attack him either. He is 15 years older and far less likely to do something like this at this point in his life.
He exited gracefully saying kind things about Mullin. He'll make a great salary doing what he's actually very good at and will have more free time and much less stress. Starting rumors, the answers to which we'll know in a matter of days, is completely pointless.
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Fordham, sju fans still a pretty tight community overall. Rumors etc certainly can be blown off. Guys like Mr Google etc are rabble rousing. I understand your point, but people don't have to like this type of stuff. It's childish to do so especially as a former spokesperson, in whatever role.
First off that is assuming it is true and more importantly who cares...
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Fordham, sju fans still a pretty tight community overall. Rumors etc certainly can be blown off. Guys like Mr Google etc are rabble rousing. I understand your point, but people don't have to like this type of stuff. It's childish to do so especially as a former spokesperson, in whatever role.
Mr Google was first to break the Sheed not returning scoop. So one might think he has legitimate inside info.
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Fordham, sju fans still a pretty tight community overall. Rumors etc certainly can be blown off. Guys like Mr Google etc are rabble rousing. I understand your point, but people don't have to like this type of stuff. It's childish to do so especially as a former spokesperson, in whatever role.
Mr Google was first to break the Sheed not returning scoop. So one might think he has legitimate inside info.
Mr Google is another disgruntled former employee of St Johns
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Why would it surprise anyone that the old staff is petty and taking swipes at Mullin and co. ? That seems like exactly the type of thing they would do.
And if SL and his cronies think they were railroaded .,.. good! They deserved to be railroaded, bulldozed, steamrolled, and sand-bagged all on the same day.
If you're doing a shitty job you're not entitled to know your boss's plans to replace you. Just gtfo
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Why would it surprise anyone that the old staff is petty and taking swipes at Mullin and co. ? That seems like exactly the type of thing they would do.
And if SL and his cronies think they were railroaded .,.. good! They deserved to be railroaded, bulldozed, steamrolled, and sand-bagged all on the same day.
If you're doing a shitty job you're not entitled to know your boss's plans to replace you. Just gtfo
You probably believe in the tooth fairy, too. Why are you so petty and miserable?
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Why would it surprise anyone that the old staff is petty and taking swipes at Mullin and co. ? That seems like exactly the type of thing they would do.
And if SL and his cronies think they were railroaded .,.. good! They deserved to be railroaded, bulldozed, steamrolled, and sand-bagged all on the same day.
If you're doing a shitty job you're not entitled to know your boss's plans to replace you. Just gtfo
You probably believe in the tooth fairy, too. Why are you so petty and miserable?
I'm generally negative towards SL. That's it. And I feel that its well deserved.
Do I say anything that makes you think I'm negative or petty about anything else ?
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Why would it surprise anyone that the old staff is petty and taking swipes at Mullin and co. ? That seems like exactly the type of thing they would do.
And if SL and his cronies think they were railroaded .,.. good! They deserved to be railroaded, bulldozed, steamrolled, and sand-bagged all on the same day.
If you're doing a shitty job you're not entitled to know your boss's plans to replace you. Just gtfo
You probably believe in the tooth fairy, too. Why are you so petty and miserable?
Thank
you
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
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He is 15 years older and far less likely to do something like this at this point in his life.
He exited gracefully saying kind things about Mullin. He'll make a great salary doing what he's actually very good at and will have more free time and much less stress. Starting rumors, the answers to which we'll know in a matter of days, is completely pointless.
Leaving this rumor about rumors aside. Did you really watch Steve Lavin over the past five years and say to yourself, gee, this guy is certainly happy and well-adjusted? Because I think he's a hysteric and a complete nut job (albeit a high functioning nut job) and would not be surprised if I heard he shoved Mullin's pet rabbit into a pot of boiling water.
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He is 15 years older and far less likely to do something like this at this point in his life.
He exited gracefully saying kind things about Mullin. He'll make a great salary doing what he's actually very good at and will have more free time and much less stress. Starting rumors, the answers to which we'll know in a matter of days, is completely pointless.
Leaving this rumor about rumors aside. Did you really watch Steve Lavin over the past five years and say to yourself, gee, this guy is certainly happy and well-adjusted? Because I think he's a hysteric and a complete nut job (albeit a high functioning nut job) and would not be surprised if I heard he shoved Mullin's pet rabbit into a pot of boiling water.
I'm also not sure what Marillac saw from Lavin that made him think this was a person who would be "great" at describing the game of basketball. I heard/read most of his comments the past five years and thought the opposite.
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A. Who Cares, they're gone
B. Perhaps if they coached better, recruited better, and made the head coach take his job seriously they would be in a better position than they are
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Thank you
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Almost Psycho Stalkerish.
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The hate for SL by some on this board is just strange. Let's lighten up and enjoy the new regime.
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Almost Psycho Stalkerish.
You guys use the word hate. I just point out (albeit repeatedly) that he was bad at his job.
And based on the personality traits he displayed, I don't find it hard to believe he starts rumors about his successor.
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Almost Psycho Stalkerish.
You guys use the word hate. I just point out (albeit repeatedly) that he was bad at his job.
And based on the personality traits he displayed, I don't find it hard to believe he starts rumors about his successor.
There's quite honestly not a better word to use to describe the way you post about him. Give me an example of something he did in his time here that would show starting false rumors about the current regime would be something he would do.
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Almost Psycho Stalkerish.
You guys use the word hate. I just point out (albeit repeatedly) that he was bad at his job.
And based on the personality traits he displayed, I don't find it hard to believe he starts rumors about his successor.
There's quite honestly not a better word to use to describe the way you post about him. Give me an example of something he did in his time here that would show starting false rumors about the current regime would be something he would do.
Telling reporters (last year) that he was in contract negotiations with SJU about an extension when there was no president and the AD was out of town and hadn't spoken to him about his contract in months.
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Almost Psycho Stalkerish.
You guys use the word hate. I just point out (albeit repeatedly) that he was bad at his job.
And based on the personality traits he displayed, I don't find it hard to believe he starts rumors about his successor.
There's quite honestly not a better word to use to describe the way you post about him. Give me an example of something he did in his time here that would show starting false rumors about the current regime would be something he would do.
Telling reporters (last year) that he was in contract negotiations with SJU about an extension when there was no president and the AD was out of town and hadn't spoken to him about his contract in months.
Even if true, that does not make him a bad person. Spreading false rumors about Mullin and co. that would make him a bad person. Huge difference. He never did anything like that while at SJU.
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Almost Psycho Stalkerish.
You guys use the word hate. I just point out (albeit repeatedly) that he was bad at his job.
And based on the personality traits he displayed, I don't find it hard to believe he starts rumors about his successor.
There's quite honestly not a better word to use to describe the way you post about him. Give me an example of something he did in his time here that would show starting false rumors about the current regime would be something he would do.
Telling reporters (last year) that he was in contract negotiations with SJU about an extension when there was no president and the AD was out of town and hadn't spoken to him about his contract in months.
Even if true, that does not make him a bad person. Spreading false rumors about Mullin and co. that would make him a bad person. Huge difference. He never did anything like that while at SJU.
Tried to bring in an accused rapist without running it past any of his superiors.
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Keep believing SL is a good guy and was always honest with SJU. If that helps you sleep at night, so be it.
He literally did nothing to support your theory he is a terrible man. You can question his competence as a coach all you want, but your personal hate for him is amazing to me and completely unfounded.
Almost Psycho Stalkerish.
You guys use the word hate. I just point out (albeit repeatedly) that he was bad at his job.
And based on the personality traits he displayed, I don't find it hard to believe he starts rumors about his successor.
There's quite honestly not a better word to use to describe the way you post about him. Give me an example of something he did in his time here that would show starting false rumors about the current regime would be something he would do.
Telling reporters (last year) that he was in contract negotiations with SJU about an extension when there was no president and the AD was out of town and hadn't spoken to him about his contract in months.
Even if true, that does not make him a bad person. Spreading false rumors about Mullin and co. that would make him a bad person. Huge difference. He never did anything like that while at SJU.
I think we're not talking about the same thing 212.
I don't think it's intentional. I think a reporter, most of us can imagine who, asked him about Lovett, SL said he doubts he'll be eligible blah blah blah.
Do I think he's trying to spread false rumors about Mullin? No. I think he just talks out of his ass about any subject he's asked about. And the effect this time is a rumor undercutting the current staff.
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This thread is tailspinning. No good to come of it.
Moving on...