6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Poison on September 13, 2014, 04:49:35 PM
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Predicted Order: Nova, STJ, Georgetown, Xavier, Prov, Creighton, Hall, Butler, Marq and Dep.
Harrison 1st Team
Obekpa 2nd Team
Jordan 3rd Team
POY: Harrison
Newcomer of the Year: Isaac Copeland
Top Shooter: Hilliard
Top Rebounder: Kameron Woods
Top Defender: Obekpa
Top Playmaker: Dee Davis
Most Versatile: Harrison
Top NBA Prospect: Harrison
Most Entertaining: Jordan
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Predicted Order: Nova, STJ, Georgetown, Xavier, Prov, Creighton, Hall, Butler, Marq and Dep.
Harrison 1st Team
Obekpa 2nd Team
Jordan 3rd Team
POY: Harrison
Newcomer of the Year: Isaac Copeland
Top Shooter: Hilliard
Top Rebounder: Kameron Woods
Top Defender: Obekpa
Top Playmaker: Dee Davis
Most Versatile: Harrison
Top NBA Prospect: Harrison
Most Entertaining: Jordan
I love Harrison but I don't think he is the most versatile or the best pro prospect on his own team.
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Harrison is not an NBA prospect and certainly not the #1 prospect in the conference. I can give you ten better prospects, two on St. John's alone.
I can understand the most versatile though. If he had to, I bet he could play any position 1-4. He's got a terrific handle--very underrated IMO--he can shoot, score, he gets after it on defense...strong kid, good rebounder. He's only limited by his height.
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Harrison is not an NBA prospect and certainly not the #1 prospect in the conference. I can give you ten better prospects, two on St. John's alone.
I can understand the most versatile though. If he had to, I bet he could play any position 1-4. He's got a terrific handle--very underrated IMO--he can shoot, score, he gets after it on defense...strong kid, good rebounder. He's only limited by his height.
With Harrison at the 4 and Jones at the 2 we will present some teams with huge match up problems.
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Harrison is not an NBA prospect and certainly not the #1 prospect in the conference. I can give you ten better prospects, two on St. John's alone.
I can understand the most versatile though. If he had to, I bet he could play any position 1-4. He's got a terrific handle--very underrated IMO--he can shoot, score, he gets after it on defense...strong kid, good rebounder. He's only limited by his height.
With Harrison at the 4 and Jones at the 2 we will present some teams with huge match up problems.
Hahah
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Harrison is not an NBA prospect and certainly not the #1 prospect in the conference. I can give you ten better prospects, two on St. John's alone.
I can understand the most versatile though. If he had to, I bet he could play any position 1-4. He's got a terrific handle--very underrated IMO--he can shoot, score, he gets after it on defense...strong kid, good rebounder. He's only limited by his height.
With Harrison at the 4 and Jones at the 2 we will present some teams with huge match up problems.
I'd rather Harrison at the four before seeing Jones at the three.
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Harrison is not an NBA prospect and certainly not the #1 prospect in the conference. I can give you ten better prospects, two on St. John's alone.
I can understand the most versatile though. If he had to, I bet he could play any position 1-4. He's got a terrific handle--very underrated IMO--he can shoot, score, he gets after it on defense...strong kid, good rebounder. He's only limited by his height.
Handle? When was the last time you saw D'Angelo drive left?
He's our best player, and probably the best in the conference but he is neither an NBA prospect nor very versatile. He's a score-first sg. Not a true spot-up shopter, but a guy who slashes enough, shoots well enough, and just has a knack for scoring the ball.
And he plays hard all of the time. He is undersized and a not a great athlete, yet D'Angelo picks up rebounds and blocks over Sampson pointer and obekpa.
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Harrison is not an NBA prospect and certainly not the #1 prospect in the conference. I can give you ten better prospects, two on St. John's alone.
I can understand the most versatile though. If he had to, I bet he could play any position 1-4. He's got a terrific handle--very underrated IMO--he can shoot, score, he gets after it on defense...strong kid, good rebounder. He's only limited by his height.
Handle? When was the last time you saw D'Angelo drive left?
He's our best player, and probably the best in the conference but he is neither an NBA prospect nor very versatile. He's a score-first sg. Not a true spot-up shopter, but a guy who slashes enough, shoots well enough, and just has a knack for scoring the ball.
And he plays hard all of the time. He is undersized and a not a great athlete, yet D'Angelo picks up rebounds and blocks over Sampson pointer and obekpa.
On the contrary when was the last time you saw someone rip dlos dribble? He doesnt have a handle that consists of ankle breaking crossovers but his handle is very tight and rarely if ever gets flustered with the ball in his hands.
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nor very versatile.
Led the team in scoring, second in rebounding, second in assists. Double doubled two of the last three games of the season, which is two more double doubles than anyone else had (except Sampson, who's now a 76er, despite being an awful addition by subtraction who will be easily replaced by a walkon).
So he's sort of versatile, in that he does nearly everything better than everyone else.
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I wouldn't dismiss D'lo's NBA prospects so easily. Kid has a huge heart and is a great ball player.. I wouldn't put it past him.
I see Jordan as a 1st or 2nd teamer....At least I hope for the teams sake
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Harrison is not an NBA prospect and certainly not the #1 prospect in the conference. I can give you ten better prospects, two on St. John's alone.
I can understand the most versatile though. If he had to, I bet he could play any position 1-4. He's got a terrific handle--very underrated IMO--he can shoot, score, he gets after it on defense...strong kid, good rebounder. He's only limited by his height.
Handle? When was the last time you saw D'Angelo drive left?
He's our best player, and probably the best in the conference but he is neither an NBA prospect nor very versatile. He's a score-first sg. Not a true spot-up shopter, but a guy who slashes enough, shoots well enough, and just has a knack for scoring the ball.
And he plays hard all of the time. He is undersized and a not a great athlete, yet D'Angelo picks up rebounds and blocks over Sampson pointer and obekpa.
On the contrary when was the last time you saw someone rip dlos dribble? He doesnt have a handle that consists of ankle breaking crossovers but his handle is very tight and rarely if ever gets flustered with the ball in his hands.
Exactly. He doesn't have the quickness to get by guys, but his handle is as tight as the come. I'd rather him have the ball to end the game than anyone else.
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Athlon has us 4th in the conference and in the NIT.
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Athlon has us 4th in the conference and in the NIT.
How many Big East teams do they have in?
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I think the Big East will get 3 in but honestly wouldn't be too shocked if the conference only got 2.
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
Which 4?
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
Which 4?
I think Nova, STJ, Xavier and Georgetown. Not hard guesses considering the experience on these teams. If 4 teams dance, I'd consider that a more than acceptable season for the BE. Johnnies have to do their part. Now or never.
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
Which 4?
I think Nova, STJ, Xavier and Georgetown. Not hard guesses considering the experience on these teams. If 4 teams dance, I'd consider that a more than acceptable season for the BE. Johnnies have to do their part. Now or never.
agreed. I think 4 is the least amount of bids the conference will ever get. I think those are the top 4 who end up dancing with Providence and Seton Hall being the next two who have an outside shot to dance. Butler, Creighton, Marquette NIT quality teams as well, but not all those will make it due to the auto bids to the NIT.
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
Which 4?
I think Nova, STJ, Xavier and Georgetown. Not hard guesses considering the experience on these teams. If 4 teams dance, I'd consider that a more than acceptable season for the BE. Johnnies have to do their part. Now or never.
agreed. I think 4 is the least amount of bids the conference will ever get. I think those are the top 4 who end up dancing with Providence and Seton Hall being the next two who have an outside shot to dance. Butler, Creighton, Marquette NIT quality teams as well, but not all those will make it due to the auto bids to the NIT.
I see Seton Hall finishing second to last right ahead of, of course, Depaul. They may have talented freshman, but they return very little.
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
Which 4?
I think Nova, STJ, Xavier and Georgetown. Not hard guesses considering the experience on these teams. If 4 teams dance, I'd consider that a more than acceptable season for the BE. Johnnies have to do their part. Now or never.
agreed. I think 4 is the least amount of bids the conference will ever get. I think those are the top 4 who end up dancing with Providence and Seton Hall being the next two who have an outside shot to dance. Butler, Creighton, Marquette NIT quality teams as well, but not all those will make it due to the auto bids to the NIT.
I see Seton Hall finishing second to last right ahead of, of course, Depaul. They may have talented freshman, but they return very little.
They return their starting back court in Gibbs and Sina, and return role player PF in Mobley. Yes they lost a lot, but they return their second best player in Gibbs and 2 other players of note. No way they finish that low. I see them 6th in the league, but could fall to 7th. Can't see them below Creighton who lost even more and brought in way less. I'm also very low on Marquette, but could see them surprising.
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
I'd be disappointed if the league only got four in again. The big names have to really step up to open the door for the guys behind them. That means Nova (can't see them disappointing), G'Town and St. John's.
The thing that scares me the most is that they are going to be beating the crap out of each other all year. Outside of maybe Depaul, nothing will be easy for anyone.
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Would be real surprised if we didnt get 4 teams.
I'd be disappointed if the league only got four in again. The big names have to really step up to open the door for the guys behind them. That means Nova (can't see them disappointing), G'Town and St. John's.
The thing that scares me the most is that they are going to be beating the crap out of each other all year. Outside of maybe Depaul, nothing will be easy for anyone.
I meant it as at least 4 teams. I think were getting 5 in this year. Nova, St. John's, Gtown, Providence and one other.
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The thing that scares me the most is that they are going to be beating the crap out of each other all year.
Anyway you slice it, it's still much easier than banging your head against Pitt, Syracuse and Ucant every year.
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I agree that Greene is an understated contributor. That's an astute comment. Personally I love him when he's not running the offense.
However, I'm confused about the Jones injury? What injury did he have? Did I miss that?
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I agree that Greene is an understated contributor. That's an astute comment. Personally I love him when he's not running the offense.
However, I'm confused about the Jones injury? What injury did he have? Did I miss that?
Splinteritis.