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Title: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 10:17:31 AM
So I am a HUUUUUGE TWD fan and loved all the build up last night....but damn....not showing us who gets Lucille'd was F'd up on so many levels.  I hope it's pee pee pants city real soon in the AMC corporate offices when they realize how pissed off everyone is.

Negan's entrance was f'ing awesome though.  I was on the edge of my seat for that monologue and Jeffrey Dean Morgan is just PERFECT as him.  Damn was that some quality acting.

I personally think it was Abraham or Eugene who got Lucille'd despite that it would deviate from the comics. 

Any other predictions/thoughts?
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 10:23:18 AM
I also predict Episode 1 of Season 7 is going to show the events of Season 6 finale (or perhaps the whole second half of Season 6, condensed) from the perspective of the Saviors/Negan, and ends the season 7 premiere showing exactly who gets Lucille'd.
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 04, 2016, 10:25:51 AM
Huge fan also. Haven't seen the finale yet but read the spoilers a week ago.  I think it has to be Glenn or Daryl
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 10:29:05 AM
Huge fan also. Haven't seen the finale yet but read the spoilers a week ago.  I think it has to be Glenn or Daryl

Probably right, and there are hints from the finale that suggest it very well probably is Glenn or Daryl (based on POV camera, you'll see when you watch it).  That being said, if its Daryl i think it would have been much more effective to show the death last night and have people cry about daryl for 6 months.  If its glenn, thats who gets it in the comics I guess, so whatever if they draw it out.

Thank God Game of Thrones comes back in 3 weeks so that can tide me over (and hopefully end the J.S. cliffhanger quick).
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 04, 2016, 10:34:53 AM
Huge fan also. Haven't seen the finale yet but read the spoilers a week ago.  I think it has to be Glenn or Daryl

Probably right, and there are hints from the finale that suggest it very well probably is Glenn or Daryl (based on POV camera, you'll see when you watch it).  That being said, if its Daryl i think it would have been much more effective to show the death last night and have people cry about daryl for 6 months.  If its glenn, thats who gets it in the comics I guess, so whatever if they draw it out.

Thank God Game of Thrones comes back in 3 weeks so that can tide me over (and hopefully end the J.S. cliffhanger quick).

Ya how many times can Glenn get out of it. Maybe both die
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 10:43:14 AM
Huge fan also. Haven't seen the finale yet but read the spoilers a week ago.  I think it has to be Glenn or Daryl

Probably right, and there are hints from the finale that suggest it very well probably is Glenn or Daryl (based on POV camera, you'll see when you watch it).  That being said, if its Daryl i think it would have been much more effective to show the death last night and have people cry about daryl for 6 months.  If its glenn, thats who gets it in the comics I guess, so whatever if they draw it out.

Thank God Game of Thrones comes back in 3 weeks so that can tide me over (and hopefully end the J.S. cliffhanger quick).

Ya how many times can Glenn get out of it. Maybe both die

Yea they'll probably show a dumpster conveniently show up to the final scene and Glenn and Daryl will both dive under it.
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2016, 03:26:37 PM
Huge fan also. Haven't seen the finale yet but read the spoilers a week ago.  I think it has to be Glenn or Daryl

Probably right, and there are hints from the finale that suggest it very well probably is Glenn or Daryl (based on POV camera, you'll see when you watch it).  That being said, if its Daryl i think it would have been much more effective to show the death last night and have people cry about daryl for 6 months.  If its glenn, thats who gets it in the comics I guess, so whatever if they draw it out.

Thank God Game of Thrones comes back in 3 weeks so that can tide me over (and hopefully end the J.S. cliffhanger quick).

Ya how many times can Glenn get out of it. Maybe both die

Yea they'll probably show a dumpster conveniently show up to the final scene and Glenn and Daryl will both dive under it.

Supposedly someone slow downed the background noise and you can hear Glen gasping for Maggie as he supposedly did in comics( I have never read them). Also supposedly you hear Maggie screaming? Can't do from work but supposedly the slow down version is on line.

I agree next season will either show Saviors, new group with Morgan and Carol also supposedly in comics or like a flash forward a few months , so they can drag it out. Only Glenn or Darryl would really make sense though.
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 04, 2016, 03:39:55 PM
Huge fan also. Haven't seen the finale yet but read the spoilers a week ago.  I think it has to be Glenn or Daryl

Probably right, and there are hints from the finale that suggest it very well probably is Glenn or Daryl (based on POV camera, you'll see when you watch it).  That being said, if its Daryl i think it would have been much more effective to show the death last night and have people cry about daryl for 6 months.  If its glenn, thats who gets it in the comics I guess, so whatever if they draw it out.

Thank God Game of Thrones comes back in 3 weeks so that can tide me over (and hopefully end the J.S. cliffhanger quick).

Ya how many times can Glenn get out of it. Maybe both die

Yea they'll probably show a dumpster conveniently show up to the final scene and Glenn and Daryl will both dive under it.

Supposedly someone slow downed the background noise and you can hear Glen gasping for Maggie as he supposedly did in comics( I have never read them). Also supposedly you hear Maggie screaming? Can't do from work but supposedly the slow down version is on line.

I agree next season will either show Saviors, new group with Morgan and Carol also supposedly in comics or like a flash forward a few months , so they can drag it out. Only Glenn or Darryl would really make sense though.
Maybe it's maggie getting the wood
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 04, 2016, 03:55:10 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2016, 04:03:39 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 

Was to be a really big deal. I like Abe but not a big enough character. Fans would revolt if Daryl but it will be him or Glenn
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 04:08:11 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 

Was to be a really big deal. I like Abe but not a big enough character. Fans would revolt if Daryl but it will be him or Glenn

You are counting on the producers/showrunners to deliver as big a situation as the comic....they already bothced that in favor of "ratings" and a summer of "#WhoIsIt?"   Step 2 of favoring ratings and being sellouts s Abe's death, assuming they can work out contracts with Daryl or Glenn, and they will be using the #WhoIsIt? death as leverage over all contract negotiations.  Ridiculous.  Game of Thrones they are not.

I hope you're right but I think it's Abe.  Who else would get drilled in the f'ing head by Lucille and be a "champ" enough to rise back up and stare at Negan while he takes it again?  Glenn would look to Maggie and Daryl has to have lost a bunch of blood from the gunshot wound.

Despite all of this, I really wouldnt mind if it was Carl.....
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2016, 04:48:18 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 

Was to be a really big deal. I like Abe but not a big enough character. Fans would revolt if Daryl but it will be him or Glenn

You are counting on the producers/showrunners to deliver as big a situation as the comic....they already bothced that in favor of "ratings" and a summer of "#WhoIsIt?"   Step 2 of favoring ratings and being sellouts s Abe's death, assuming they can work out contracts with Daryl or Glenn, and they will be using the #WhoIsIt? death as leverage over all contract negotiations.  Ridiculous.  Game of Thrones they are not.

I hope you're right but I think it's Abe.  Who else would get drilled in the f'ing head by Lucille and be a "champ" enough to rise back up and stare at Negan while he takes it again?  Glenn would look to Maggie and Daryl has to have lost a bunch of blood from the gunshot wound.

Despite all of this, I really wouldnt mind if it was Carl.....

In comic Glen gets up from first hit. Carl has big story line with Negan supposedly and with girl he locked in closet who is a replacement for Sophia-Carol's daughter who is still alive in comic. They have gone away from comic but killing Carl would be a big move from it. Negan basically cleared Carl and Rick anyway when he warned what would happen if anyone moved
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 04, 2016, 04:55:06 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 

Was to be a really big deal. I like Abe but not a big enough character. Fans would revolt if Daryl but it will be him or Glenn

You are counting on the producers/showrunners to deliver as big a situation as the comic....they already bothced that in favor of "ratings" and a summer of "#WhoIsIt?"   Step 2 of favoring ratings and being sellouts s Abe's death, assuming they can work out contracts with Daryl or Glenn, and they will be using the #WhoIsIt? death as leverage over all contract negotiations.  Ridiculous.  Game of Thrones they are not.

I hope you're right but I think it's Abe.  Who else would get drilled in the f'ing head by Lucille and be a "champ" enough to rise back up and stare at Negan while he takes it again?  Glenn would look to Maggie and Daryl has to have lost a bunch of blood from the gunshot wound.

Despite all of this, I really wouldnt mind if it was Carl.....

 Negan basically cleared Carl and Rick anyway when he warned what would happen if anyone moved

Didnt he warn Glen?
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 04:55:18 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 

Was to be a really big deal. I like Abe but not a big enough character. Fans would revolt if Daryl but it will be him or Glenn

You are counting on the producers/showrunners to deliver as big a situation as the comic....they already bothced that in favor of "ratings" and a summer of "#WhoIsIt?"   Step 2 of favoring ratings and being sellouts s Abe's death, assuming they can work out contracts with Daryl or Glenn, and they will be using the #WhoIsIt? death as leverage over all contract negotiations.  Ridiculous.  Game of Thrones they are not.

I hope you're right but I think it's Abe.  Who else would get drilled in the f'ing head by Lucille and be a "champ" enough to rise back up and stare at Negan while he takes it again?  Glenn would look to Maggie and Daryl has to have lost a bunch of blood from the gunshot wound.

Despite all of this, I really wouldnt mind if it was Carl.....

In comic Glen gets up from first hit. Carl has big story line with Negan supposedly and with girl he locked in closet who is a replacement for Sophia-Carol's daughter who is still alive in comic. They have gone away from comic but killing Carl would be a big move from it. Negan basically cleared Carl and Rick anyway when he warned what would happen if anyone moved

Isn't Abraham already dead in the comic, by the way?  Which is partly why I could see it being Abe...
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2016, 05:00:26 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 

Was to be a really big deal. I like Abe but not a big enough character. Fans would revolt if Daryl but it will be him or Glenn

You are counting on the producers/showrunners to deliver as big a situation as the comic....they already bothced that in favor of "ratings" and a summer of "#WhoIsIt?"   Step 2 of favoring ratings and being sellouts s Abe's death, assuming they can work out contracts with Daryl or Glenn, and they will be using the #WhoIsIt? death as leverage over all contract negotiations.  Ridiculous.  Game of Thrones they are not.

I hope you're right but I think it's Abe.  Who else would get drilled in the f'ing head by Lucille and be a "champ" enough to rise back up and stare at Negan while he takes it again?  Glenn would look to Maggie and Daryl has to have lost a bunch of blood from the gunshot wound.

Despite all of this, I really wouldnt mind if it was Carl.....

 Negan basically cleared Carl and Rick anyway when he warned what would happen if anyone moved

Didnt he warn Glen?

He said if anyone did anything after he killed whoever with bat that they should tear out Carl's other eye and feed it to Rick. SO based on that, not that that was ever really an option you can say that Rick and Carl are excluded from bat attack.
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 05:00:39 PM
I agree w you WASJU that Glen most likely, but we have seen major character departures - as you mentioned, Sophia died in season 2 on TV vs. still alive in comic.  Andrea also still alive in comic.  I have a feeling Glenn's death is coming but he hasn't met is end quite yet...otherwise why drag it out if they are following the comic to a T with the death?
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2016, 05:01:12 PM
Don't be Darryl.   Knowing nothing about the comics my guess was Ab, he seemed to be making "too" much personal progress towards the end of the season. 

Was to be a really big deal. I like Abe but not a big enough character. Fans would revolt if Daryl but it will be him or Glenn

You are counting on the producers/showrunners to deliver as big a situation as the comic....they already bothced that in favor of "ratings" and a summer of "#WhoIsIt?"   Step 2 of favoring ratings and being sellouts s Abe's death, assuming they can work out contracts with Daryl or Glenn, and they will be using the #WhoIsIt? death as leverage over all contract negotiations.  Ridiculous.  Game of Thrones they are not.

I hope you're right but I think it's Abe.  Who else would get drilled in the f'ing head by Lucille and be a "champ" enough to rise back up and stare at Negan while he takes it again?  Glenn would look to Maggie and Daryl has to have lost a bunch of blood from the gunshot wound.

Despite all of this, I really wouldnt mind if it was Carl.....

In comic Glen gets up from first hit. Carl has big story line with Negan supposedly and with girl he locked in closet who is a replacement for Sophia-Carol's daughter who is still alive in comic. They have gone away from comic but killing Carl would be a big move from it. Negan basically cleared Carl and Rick anyway when he warned what would happen if anyone moved

Isn't Abraham already dead in the comic, by the way?  Which is partly why I could see it being Abe...
yeah but again this is supposed to be a defining moment and Abe not big enough character
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2016, 05:02:38 PM
I agree w you WASJU that Glen most likely, but we have seen major character departures - as you mentioned, Sophia died in season 2 on TV vs. still alive in comic.  Andrea also still alive in comic.  I have a feeling Glenn's death is coming but he hasn't met is end quite yet...otherwise why drag it out if they are following the comic to a T with the death?

Trying to copy GOT?
Was stupid to do it this way. Now if Glenn like most suspect what was point of dragging it out?
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 05:08:08 PM
I agree w you WASJU that Glen most likely, but we have seen major character departures - as you mentioned, Sophia died in season 2 on TV vs. still alive in comic.  Andrea also still alive in comic.  I have a feeling Glenn's death is coming but he hasn't met is end quite yet...otherwise why drag it out if they are following the comic to a T with the death?

Trying to copy GOT?
Was stupid to do it this way. Now if Glenn like most suspect what was point of dragging it out?

Too much focus on Abraham's love life over last few episodes, and his total about face on how to live his life.  TWD always does this when they are about to kill a character.  They also did a Eugene/Abraham farewell, which was to give us red herring about Eugene biting it, but I think it was for Abe all along.

Vs.

Glen who barely appeared last night, and even in the episode before was nowhere near the main focus.  Just feel like Glen's TV ending would be a little different with how much of a fan following he has.  Same w Daryl.
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
I agree w you WASJU that Glen most likely, but we have seen major character departures - as you mentioned, Sophia died in season 2 on TV vs. still alive in comic.  Andrea also still alive in comic.  I have a feeling Glenn's death is coming but he hasn't met is end quite yet...otherwise why drag it out if they are following the comic to a T with the death?

Trying to copy GOT?
Was stupid to do it this way. Now if Glenn like most suspect what was point of dragging it out?

Too much focus on Abraham's love life over last few episodes, and his total about face on how to live his life.  TWD always does this when they are about to kill a character.  They also did a Eugene/Abraham farewell, which was to give us red herring about Eugene biting it, but I think it was for Abe all along.

Vs.

Glen who barely appeared last night, and even in the episode before was nowhere near the main focus.  Just feel like Glen's TV ending would be a little different with how much of a fan following he has.  Same w Daryl.

Wish it was Eugene. He is annoying
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Tha Kid on April 04, 2016, 05:24:45 PM
I agree w you WASJU that Glen most likely, but we have seen major character departures - as you mentioned, Sophia died in season 2 on TV vs. still alive in comic.  Andrea also still alive in comic.  I have a feeling Glenn's death is coming but he hasn't met is end quite yet...otherwise why drag it out if they are following the comic to a T with the death?

Trying to copy GOT?
Was stupid to do it this way. Now if Glenn like most suspect what was point of dragging it out?

Too much focus on Abraham's love life over last few episodes, and his total about face on how to live his life.  TWD always does this when they are about to kill a character.  They also did a Eugene/Abraham farewell, which was to give us red herring about Eugene biting it, but I think it was for Abe all along.

Vs.

Glen who barely appeared last night, and even in the episode before was nowhere near the main focus.  Just feel like Glen's TV ending would be a little different with how much of a fan following he has.  Same w Daryl.

Wish it was Eugene. He is annoying

He sure can bite a d*ck though.

EUgene is annoying and he must have sold them out SO fast for them to be caught and him be there with the RV already.  Take it like a champ, Eugene.
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 04, 2016, 06:00:55 PM
Is lieutenant Carver gonna play a big role in the next season? I was waiting to finally enjoy his character. 
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on April 04, 2016, 10:17:32 PM
Has to be Glenn, his death leads to a ton of important stuff. Can't see them doing the whole scene the exact same and then changing who dies.
Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: mjmaherjr on April 15, 2016, 05:08:10 PM
If you take the audio soundtrack and play it backwards maggie can be heard yelling " Steve Lavin is the Devil "

That being said I think it would be too easy to follow the comics and kill glen because if it were Glen or Daryl I think they would have killed them the final episode to freak out the entire fanbase.Killing them 1st episode of next season wouldnt be enough time for people to go nuts

I think Eugene dies since they have been building him up the last several episodes

Negan was great casting

Title: Re: Walking Dead Season 6 Finale (INCLUDES SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED)
Post by: prjohnnies on April 15, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
For those who watch, what is the best way to read up on the series on a Kindle?  One of the options are the books - The Governors rise, Governors fall, etc.  And then there are the actual comics you can download.  I read the comic for the first episode - it was short and frankly I'd prefer not to read the comics if I get the whole story via the books you can download.