6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2017 Class => Topic started by: paultzman on December 14, 2016, 12:49:45 PM
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/three-star-forward-derrick-walker-adding-high-major-offers-
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Seems like he is favoring Tennessee.
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sheppy, most of them want PT. Has he seen our front line? There is plenty of playing time to be had here for any big body rebounder/defender with any post presence.
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Don't forget Clark is going to be playing next year - tough player has to be playing for Michigan State.
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Don't forget Clark is going to be playing next year - tough player has to be playing for Michigan State.
But he left Michigan St. Hope he is the goods
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You are talking about MSU - which was ranked what 5 last year - he was injured and still played about 10 minutes a game.
They had what a top five recruiting class - figured his playing time would be less.
Look at the guy that played at Gonzaga last year who started originally at Kentucky - didn't get no run there went to Gonzaga and became one of there stars .
Why cant Clark average 10 points a game for SJU.
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You are talking about MSU - which was ranked what 5 last year - he was injured and still played about 10 minutes a game.
They had what a top five recruiting class - figured his playing time would be less.
Look at the guy that played at Gonzaga last year who started originally at Kentucky - didn't get no run there went to Gonzaga and became one of there stars .
Why cant Clark average 10 points a game for SJU.
That's what I'm saying. He was recruited over at Michigan St, which isn't your typical IZzo team this year. I don't think they are that good, minus 2 or 3 players. Like I said, hope he is the goods. We need him to be. Ive never seen him play
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Planning on visiting SJU "unofficially" after he uses his last official visit on Tennessee.
Derrick Walker, a three-star power forward, is the newest St. John’s target for assistant coach Matt Abdelmassih. St. John’s offered him a few weeks ago, and they made a trip to see him recently as well. “It was really good,” he said of their meeting. “We sat down and talked about campus and stuff like that.”
St. John’s is certainly an option for Walker. Not only does he fit that style of play, but he also likes a few other things about St. John’s as well. “They have Chris Mullin, who is a great coach, and he played on the best team you could possibly play on (The 1992 Dream Team),” Walker said. “That’s a good coach to play for, especially good knowing he has that much history. Also, Marvin Clark is from Kansas City. He played with MoKan, he’s a part of the Mokan family and we’re really close. It’s also in New York, which is a great city.”
Because he speaks so highly of St. John’s, he does plan to take a visit to see campus but he has one more visit ahead of the Johnnies. “I’m going to take my last official visit to Tennessee pretty soon,” he said. “I plan on doing an unofficial to St. John’s. It’s kind of up in the air right now. I’m not really sure [when] yet.”
https://stjohns.rivals.com/news/johnnies-want-walker-in-red
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/813492183332429824
Visiting weekend of Nova game, 1/14.
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Important visit for us. The fact that he's friends wit Clark can certainly help us. Clark is really a wing, so shouldn't be an issue in terms of competition. Fingers crossed here. We desperately need interior help, and this kid looks good down low. Add Zach Brown at center and our team makeup changes a lot entering next year.
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He sounds like a solid player down the line, but he's not the answer for next season.
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He sounds like a solid player down the line, but he's not the answer for next season.
Gimme a Ty Grant-type and I'm fine with that. Somebody who does dirty work.
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He sounds like a solid player down the line, but he's not the answer for next season.
Gimme a Ty Grant-type and I'm fine with that. Somebody who does dirty work.
I'm fine with it too, but he's a 5-7 mpg player next year.
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He sounds like a solid player down the line, but he's not the answer for next season.
Gimme a Ty Grant-type and I'm fine with that. Somebody who does dirty work.
I'm fine with it too, but he's a 5-7 mpg player next year.
How many mpg did Ty get? I'm not even sure and couldn't find it. Ty never out up huge numbers, but got it done down low. I don't know what Walker would give us exactly, but it seems he's gotten better and gotten much better offers now.
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Per Zach -
St John's has rescheduled Derrick Walker visit for later in month with weather concerns in Midwest per source #sjubb
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Per Zach
Derrick Walker will now visit St. John's for the Xavier home game on Jan. 29. Expected to be a big visitor day. #sjubb
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Per Zach
Derrick Walker will now visit St. John's for the Xavier home game on Jan. 29. Expected to be a big visitor day. #sjubb
Good now we can relax and get blown out by Nova. Gives us time to gear up for Xavier for the big day.
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Does Walker have some beef? Also have seen him listed from 6'7-6'9. If he is 6'9 with a little beef and can play 10-15 minutes a game next year that would be a big plus if we are able to land him.
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Per Zach B
St. John's is recruiting power forward Derrick Walker of Kansas, who visits at end of month, and will explore grad transfer market. #sjubb
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From what I heard I think he likely ends up at SJU,
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From what I heard I think he likely ends up at SJU,
I would hope so. Hopefully we can beat out Akron, Georgia and Oral Roberts for his services
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At least these are lightweights, though I'm sure Georgia's campus is great
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From what I heard I think he likely ends up at SJU,
I would hope so. Hopefully we can beat out Akron, Georgia and Oral Roberts for his services
Tennessee too. He plays for the same AAU team that Marvin Clark did, so yes I think it is safe to assume that we are the front runner here.
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Definitely a little concerning that locals like Wichita St and Kansas St aren't pursuing this kid but definitely a good piece to have if he comes. This is the type of depth kid we need to make sure we aren't running only 6 deep like we did in 14-15
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I don't know how good he is, but we desperately need a pf/c or two who can get the ball down low, as well as body guys on defense in the post. We have a talented roster coming back. Need to fill some holes.
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I don't know how good he is, but we desperately need a pf/c or two who can get the ball down low, as well as body guys on defense in the post. We have a talented roster coming back. Need to fill some holes.
So what do we know size wise. Are we talking a LEGIT 6'7, 225 ?
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I don't know how good he is, but we desperately need a pf/c or two who can get the ball down low, as well as body guys on defense in the post. We have a talented roster coming back. Need to fill some holes.
So what do we know size wise. Are we talking a LEGIT 6'7, 225 ?
Most are saying about 6'7"-6'9" and about 240. I believe the 240. His frame is big and he could add a ton of muscle as well.
https://youtu.be/sxvO9x6g5V8
From these clips which are nice quality, looks like a strong kid and doesn't pretend to be anything but a post-guy. I'll take that even if he needs grooming.
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I don't know how good he is, but we desperately need a pf/c or two who can get the ball down low, as well as body guys on defense in the post. We have a talented roster coming back. Need to fill some holes.
So what do we know size wise. Are we talking a LEGIT 6'7, 225 ?
Most are saying about 6'7"-6'9" and about 240. I believe the 240. His frame is big and he could add a ton of muscle as well.
https://youtu.be/sxvO9x6g5V8
From these clips which are nice quality, looks like a strong kid and doesn't pretend to be anything but a post-guy. I'll take that even if he needs grooming.
I'll buy that. Certainly looks like he's got some beef on him. Any thoughts on Akron, but no K State ?
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Definitely a little concerning that locals like Wichita St and Kansas St aren't pursuing this kid
I agree.
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Definitely a little concerning that locals like Wichita St and Kansas St aren't pursuing this kid
I agree.
He is a late riser by all accounts so very possible those schools either filled their scholarships or are not in need of his skill set. We have talent on the roster but we are in need a big who can bang and grab boards. If he does that I don't much care who else recruited him.
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Wichita State already has 2 commits for their open scholarships. A pg and a 6'11 center. Kansas state already has 2 PF's signed and also filled all their scholarships. In addition, sunrise Christian is a local academy but Derrick Walker is from Missouri, and isn't local to Wichita. Only recently been playing there I believe. I don't know how he compares to Kansas State's PF's but they were also unranked. He has offers from Georgia and Tennessee, two upper tier schools so they seem to see something as well. Seems he's a late bloomer.
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We've needed a lunch pail post player with a nose for rebounds for years. Unfortunately, we chose Brown over Hasahn French, who seems like the better-regarded version of Walker. I'd be cool with Walker but would like to keep transfer options open, too.
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We've needed a lunch pail post player with a nose for rebounds for years. Unfortunately, we chose Brown over Hasahn French, who seems like the better-regarded version of Walker. I'd be cool with Walker but would like to keep transfer options open, too.
Agree & sense they will also go transfer route for right player
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Need better players
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Definitely a little concerning that locals like Wichita St and Kansas St aren't pursuing this kid
I agree.
He is a late riser by all accounts so very possible those schools either filled their scholarships or are not in need of his skill set. We have talent on the roster but we are in need a big who can bang and grab boards. If he does that I don't much care who else recruited him.
Patton had only had one college offer.
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Definitely a little concerning that locals like Wichita St and Kansas St aren't pursuing this kid
I agree.
He is a late riser by all accounts so very possible those schools either filled their scholarships or are not in need of his skill set. We have talent on the roster but we are in need a big who can bang and grab boards. If he does that I don't much care who else recruited him.
Patton had only had one college offer.
He conmitted early. He was a consensus top 50 recruit
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Yes and need our current group to be a year older.
Need better players
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Yes and need our current group to be a year older.
Need better players
Lovett will be collecting social security in a year
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Yes and need our current group to be a year older.
Need better players
Lovett will be collecting social security in a year
Give it up. Hes turning 21 in march. A 20 year old soph, that's almost young for college players these days ;D
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Has Trump lowered the social security age? LoVett is 20, and will be until March 4th. A bit old for a freshman, granted, but not his fault he was forced to redshirt last year by the NCAA.
Creigfhton has, what, 6 or 7 guys older than that, including 5th year seniors and 4th year juniors? LoVett's got 17 games of college ball played. The point wasn't just chronological age -- and Freudenberg, Yakwe, Elllison and lots of our guys are very young -- but experience playing D1 college ball.
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Definitely a little concerning that locals like Wichita St and Kansas St aren't pursuing this kid
I agree.
He is a late riser by all accounts so very possible those schools either filled their scholarships or are not in need of his skill set. We have talent on the roster but we are in need a big who can bang and grab boards. If he does that I don't much care who else recruited him.
Patton had only had one college offer.
He was injured
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LOL. Lots of 22 and 23 year olds on winning teams in college these days.
We forget on this board how almost no one wanted Dom Pointer here before the start of his senior season. Or how no one in their wildest dreams would have thought that Hardy would be one of the top 5 players in the Big East as a senior. List goes on and on. Look at the teams that are good in this league year in, year out, and they usually have some very good juniors and/or seniors. They reload every year because of roster balance, not because they are Kentucky, Duke or Kansas bringing in a new stable of studs each season.
Yes and need our current group to be a year older.
Need better players
Lovett will be collecting social security in a year
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+1
LOL. Lots of 22 and 23 year olds on winning teams in college these days.
We forget on this board how almost no one wanted Dom Pointer here before the start of his senior season. Or how no one in their wildest dreams would have thought that Hardy would be one of the top 5 players in the Big East as a senior. List goes on and on. Look at the teams that are good in this league year in, year out, and they usually have some very good juniors and/or seniors. They reload every year because of roster balance, not because they are Kentucky, Duke or Kansas bringing in a new stable of studs each season.
Yes and need our current group to be a year older.
Need better players
Lovett will be collecting social security in a year
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Has Trump lowered the social security age? LoVett is 20, and will be until March 4th. A bit old for a freshman, granted, but not his fault he was forced to redshirt last year by the NCAA.
Creigfhton has, what, 6 or 7 guys older than that, including 5th year seniors and 4th year juniors? LoVett's got 17 games of college ball played. The point wasn't just chronological age -- and Freudenberg, Yakwe, Elllison and lots of our guys are very young -- but experience playing D1 college ball.
Yea I don't get making a big deal of his age. Doesn't matter all. Plenty of people who sit out a year are 24 when they wrap up their careers
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Has Trump lowered the social security age? LoVett is 20, and will be until March 4th. A bit old for a freshman, granted, but not his fault he was forced to redshirt last year by the NCAA.
Creigfhton has, what, 6 or 7 guys older than that, including 5th year seniors and 4th year juniors? LoVett's got 17 games of college ball played. The point wasn't just chronological age -- and Freudenberg, Yakwe, Elllison and lots of our guys are very young -- but experience playing D1 college ball.
Yea I don't get making a big deal of his age. Doesn't matter all. Plenty of people who sit out a year are 24 when they wrap up their careers
+1
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Jimmy Hall, local kid got kicked out of Hofstra after 7 games as a freshman because of a burglary charge, now averaging 18 and 10 as a senior for Kent State. Any chance he has one year of eligibility left and he takes his talents home to Queens?
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Jimmy Hall, local kid got kicked out of Hofstra after 7 games as a freshman because of a burglary charge, now averaging 18 and 10 as a senior for Kent State. Any chance he has one year of eligibility left and he takes his talents home to Queens?
I believe he went straight to a JUCO that season after the 7 games with Hofstra. Either way, this is his last season of eligibity.
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Jimmy Hall, local kid got kicked out of Hofstra after 7 games as a freshman because of a burglary charge, now averaging 18 and 10 as a senior for Kent State. Any chance he has one year of eligibility left and he takes his talents home to Queens?
I believe he went straight to a JUCO that season after the 7 games with Hofstra. Either way, this is his last season of eligibity.
Thanks, that's too bad.
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Judging by Paultzman's new avi, I'm guessing this is looking very good
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Judging by Paultzman's new avi, I'm guessing this is looking very good
Just agreeing with Fordham & SJU79
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Judging by Paultzman's new avi, I'm guessing this is looking very good
Just agreeing with Fordham & SJU79
Expecting a verbal shortly or waiting for the signing period ?
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Per Zach B
St John's assistant Matt Abdelmassih at national prep showcase next 2 days for top '17 target Derrick Walker, who visits weekend. #sjubb
Down to Tennessee & Johnnies it appears
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It would be VERY surprising if he was not here next year
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It would be VERY surprising if he was not here next year
Thanks man!
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Corey Evans – @coreyevans_10
Tennessee here at the #NPSI for 2017 Sunrise big man Derrick Walker; visits St John's this weekend for an official
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Per Zach B
St John's assistant Matt Abdelmassih at national prep showcase next 2 days for top '17 target Derrick Walker, who visits weekend. #sjubb
Down to Tennessee & Johnnies it appears
Tariq can help him there.
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I thought Owens left Tennesee because the HC that recruited him was fired due to violations at his previous college.
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I thought Owens left Tennesee because the HC that recruited him was fired due to violations at his previous college.
True, was not a Rick Barnes recruit.
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Corey Evans – @coreyevans_10
Tennessee here at the #NPSI for 2017 Sunrise big man Derrick Walker; visits St John's this weekend for an official
So, at the Xavier game and a verbal on Monday ?
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I have to say, the fact that Rick Barnes wants him is also a good sign. Barnes is a very good recruiter.
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Per Zach B
Caught up with Derrick Walker. Said he's still considering St. John's, Georgia and Tennessee. Column in a bit. #sjubb
NetScouts Basketball – @NetScouts
#NPSI Game 14 - Sunrise Christian (KS) 76 Notre Dame Prep (MA) 62. Player of the Game: Derrick Walker (Sunrise) 12 points
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As you know , Walker was at the game sitting directly behind the basket closest to SJU bench. Big kid w some meat on him and likely will not get pushed around and should be a space eater. Matt A all over him and appeared to take him to the dressing room (but don't know for sure) pre game.
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Hopefully his relationship with Marvin Clark Jr. will help SJU land Walker. At this point he should be a priority for next year.
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Hopefully his relationship with Marvin Clark Jr. will help SJU land Walker. At this point he should be a priority for next year.
Will
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Per Zach B
"W as told the Derrick Walker visit went well. Waiting game now begins for #sjubb"
That said, with exception of Jarvis meeting with recruits, they all go well. :)
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My understanding is he told one of the players this morning he will commit to SJU
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Good to hear... we desperately need some beef in the middle.
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I thought Owens left Tennesee because the HC that recruited him was fired due to violations at his previous college.
Yes, but he can speak of advantages of playing in NY and Big East over Knoxville and SEC.
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Good to hear... we desperately need some beef in the middle.
Good news. Seems like a solid four year guy, but let's not expect anything from him next year.
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Good to hear... we desperately need some beef in the middle.
Good news. Seems like a solid four year guy, but let's not expect anything from him next year.
I'm expecting a big body on defense and some rebounds and putbacks. At this level of course we should have some expectation of helping us on the court somehow. Kid also has a big frame. If he hits the weights, he can easily come in as a freshman being very strong.
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Good to hear... we desperately need some beef in the middle.
Good news. Seems like a solid four year guy, but let's not expect anything from him next year.
I'm expecting a big body on defense and some rebounds and putbacks. At this level of course we should have some expectation of helping us on the court somehow. Kid also has a big frame. If he hits the weights, he can easily come in as a freshman being very strong.
I don't think it's a good sign if he plays more than 5-7 mpg next year. His biggest contributions will likely be in practice year one. Darien Williams and Marvin Clark are just as big and both have three years of college experience. Plus, RF should make big strides and I'm confident we land a grad transfer.
Again, he seems like the kind of four year player good programs like Xavier always have to plug in.
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Good to hear... we desperately need some beef in the middle.
Good news. Seems like a solid four year guy, but let's not expect anything from him next year.
I'm expecting a big body on defense and some rebounds and putbacks. At this level of course we should have some expectation of helping us on the court somehow. Kid also has a big frame. If he hits the weights, he can easily come in as a freshman being very strong.
I don't think it's a good sign if he plays more than 5-7 mpg next year. His biggest contributions will likely be in practice year one. Darien Williams and Marvin Clark are just as big and both have three years of college experience. Plus, RF should make big strides and I'm confident we land a grad transfer.
Again, he seems like the kind of four year player good programs like Xavier always have to plug in.
Agree
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My understanding is he told one of the players this morning he will commit to SJU
We've heard that before. We've lost a few recruits when they get down to the Tennessee and Georgia campus.
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My understanding is he told one of the players this morning he will commit to SJU
We've heard that before. We've lost a few recruits when they get down to the Tennessee and Georgia campus.
Sense SJU79 is correct
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Solid get. Hope he turns into what DJ Johnson is doing at Kansas State right now. DJ Johnson was also a 3 star prospect from Missouri with only a couple high major offers. Limited minutes in his Freshman season, a 10-15 minute guy as a Soph, 20-25 minute guy as a Junior, and now the best big on what's most likely going to a tournament team as a Senior. Thats the type of player thats the backbone of consistent programs, and ones we need to continue to get. Now it's on the staff to prove they can develop a kid like this
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My understanding is he told one of the players this morning he will commit to SJU
We've heard that before. We've lost a few recruits when they get down to the Tennessee and Georgia campus.
We can not compete against most campuses, SJU is pathetic in this regard, Kids have to learn about food, proximity to city and multiple prosports etc. To me playing in the garden is the ultimate, but the appeal I feel is waning compared to the old days
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My understanding is he told one of the players this morning he will commit to SJU
We've heard that before. We've lost a few recruits when they get down to the Tennessee and Georgia campus.
We can not compete against most campuses, SJU is pathetic in this regard, Kids have to learn about food, proximity to city and multiple prosports etc. To me playing in the garden is the ultimate, but the appeal I feel is waning compared to the old days
For St Johns and recruiting purposes, the City is the campus. And no other school can offer all the different communities, and foods, and festivals, etc. to recruits that won't get that in Missouri or Georgia or Tennessee. Don't know if Jay Z lined up any 40/40 Clubs out those ways.
St Johns students are actually required to take a class in a neighborhood they are assigned to. Students are required to learn mass transit, and how to get around in the City. Being 18-21 years old, playing ball at Rucker and hanging out Uptown one day; balling at W4th and hanging in the Village the next. Home games at the Garden. That's the St Johns campus.
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My understanding is he told one of the players this morning he will commit to SJU
We've heard that before. We've lost a few recruits when they get down to the Tennessee and Georgia campus.
We can not compete against most campuses, SJU is pathetic in this regard, Kids have to learn about food, proximity to city and multiple prosports etc. To me playing in the garden is the ultimate, but the appeal I feel is waning compared to the old days
I disagree. The city is our campus...the greatest city in the world.
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My understanding is he told one of the players this morning he will commit to SJU
We've heard that before. We've lost a few recruits when they get down to the Tennessee and Georgia campus.
We can not compete against most campuses, SJU is pathetic in this regard, Kids have to learn about food, proximity to city and multiple prosports etc. To me playing in the garden is the ultimate, but the appeal I feel is waning compared to the old days
I disagree. The city is our campus...the greatest city in the world.
Agreed.
Also with the construction of the D'Angelo Center, they're currently renovating Bent Hall and the past Marilac cafeteria renovations I love our campus. It's been improving every year. Does it stack up with the big boys no, but it's not bad.
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I agree that the proximity of the city is significant. However D1 recruits, in whatever sport, have a full plate with practices, games, tutors and classes and have little time for taking advantage of the city. Their time commitment is such that it is a tremendous advantage to have an attractive campus, which SJU does not. At this point and going forward it is mostly about playing in the garden for a hall of fame coach.
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Cj - don't dismiss the city... I've seen more than a few Instagram posts from player like Clark, Simon, Mussini, Ellison in various spots around the city.
Re: Marilla Hall - Have they renovated the classrooms or just cafeteria ? Last time I was in a Marillac classroom was '97, and it could have passed for 1969.. elementary school wood desks and all.
Overall, campus looks better but will never be picturesque.
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Following St. John’s Visit, Derrick Walker Closing in on Decision http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/01/31/following-st-johns-visit-derrick-walker-closing-decision/ …
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When he signs credit goes to comfort level he had with Matt and how much Marvin is loving his time here ...
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Yeah, Marvin is a real plus to program & in this recruitment for sure.
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Marvin is a great kid, loving his SJu experience and alleviated all his concerns about a big city
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Agree SJU79, common theme I hear is Marvin will bring a lot of leadership to the program.
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Thanks for the insider info as always fellas. This kid appears to be a real throwback 4man, brute strength, rebounding and toughness. Just what the doctor ordered.
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Agree SJU79, common theme I hear is Marvin will bring a lot of leadership to the program.
Loved hearing him mic'd up a couple a games ago. He seems to have a team first attitude and was very engaged in the game. Him and Simon seem to be good friends, always see them together.
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Cj - don't dismiss the city... I've seen more than a few Instagram posts from player like Clark, Simon, Mussini, Ellison in various spots around the city.
Re: Marilla Hall - Have they renovated the classrooms or just cafeteria ? Last time I was in a Marillac classroom was '97, and it could have passed for 1969.. elementary school wood desks and all.
Overall, campus looks better but will never be picturesque.
Marilac cafeteria was only thing that was renovated but they of course have all new desks in the classrooms.
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I kept saying to myself, "Walker resembles someone." It just dawned on me. He resembles the Harrison twins (who played for Kentucky).
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Got to love a kid whose highlights are a series of tough inside moves. His games is a throwback and the kid already looks like a beast, He is exactly what we need.
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Following St. John’s Visit, Derrick Walker Closing in on Decision http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/01/31/following-st-johns-visit-derrick-walker-closing-decision/ …
" a little undersized" . He looks every bit of 6'8, 240 to me. I wish we had that undersized big right now.
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Following St. John’s Visit, Derrick Walker Closing in on Decision http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/01/31/following-st-johns-visit-derrick-walker-closing-decision/ …
" a little undersized" . He looks every bit of 6'8, 240 to me. I wish we had that undersized big right now.
I don't think he's undersized for a PF. His coach talks about him developing his perimeter game, which is something I don't the we need. We need him to be a PF/undersized center and to do exactly what he does in those videos, which is right around the rim.
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Following St. John’s Visit, Derrick Walker Closing in on Decision http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/01/31/following-st-johns-visit-derrick-walker-closing-decision/ …
" a little undersized" . He looks every bit of 6'8, 240 to me. I wish we had that undersized big right now.
I don't think he's undersized for a PF. His coach talks about him developing his perimeter game, which is something I don't the we need. We need him to be a PF/undersized center and to do exactly what he does in those videos, which is right around the rim.
That might be what we selfishly need but think his coach is looking out for his needs and a pro career where at his size will need a perimeter game to complement his other attributes.
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Following St. John’s Visit, Derrick Walker Closing in on Decision http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/01/31/following-st-johns-visit-derrick-walker-closing-decision/ …
" a little undersized" . He looks every bit of 6'8, 240 to me. I wish we had that undersized big right now.
I don't think he's undersized for a PF. His coach talks about him developing his perimeter game, which is something I don't the we need. We need him to be a PF/undersized center and to do exactly what he does in those videos, which is right around the rim.
That might be what we selfishly need but think his coach is looking out for his needs and a pro career where at his size will need a perimeter game to complement his other attributes.
I think you are probably right but why does every big now work on their perimeter game so much? You can do plenty of damage in the post working on post moves, a hook shot, or a small jumper. Walker if he develops like a 10 foot jumper and rebounds will be effective.
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A perimeter game won't make a big guy more marketable as a pro, unless their perimeter game is top notch. Most of the best undersized PF's the Big East has had have been guys that don't step to the perimeter, and the big east has had a lot of them. Give me the Rashod Kent/Chevy troutman types any day.
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Following St. John’s Visit, Derrick Walker Closing in on Decision http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/01/31/following-st-johns-visit-derrick-walker-closing-decision/ …
" a little undersized" . He looks every bit of 6'8, 240 to me. I wish we had that undersized big right now.
I don't think he's undersized for a PF. His coach talks about him developing his perimeter game, which is something I don't the we need. We need him to be a PF/undersized center and to do exactly what he does in those videos, which is right around the rim.
That might be what we selfishly need but think his coach is looking out for his needs and a pro career where at his size will need a perimeter game to complement his other attributes.
I think you are probably right but why does every big now work on their perimeter game so much? You can do plenty of damage in the post working on post moves, a hook shot, or a small jumper. Walker if he develops like a 10 foot jumper and rebounds will be effective.
I'm a believer in the saying "you have to be good before you can be great." Set hard picks, dominate the glass, roll hard off screens, play defense, outwork everyone, and hit your FTs and open jumpers. After that, and only after that, can you focus on other areas.
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Good luck in the SEC
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Good luck in the SEC
What? I have seen no mention of him choosing
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Good luck in the SEC
What? I have seen no mention of him choosing
It's coming
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well that is not the best news to start the weekend
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Good luck in the SEC
What? I have seen no mention of him choosing
It's coming
Interesting. Everyone seemed confident, something must have changed. Makes the Grad transfer that much more of a need. I also don't like that our classes are getting unbalanced again. We are going to bring in zero freshman this year which means in 2-3 years we might have the youngest team in the country again. Maybe we hit the transfer market to combat that.
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I don't follow Twitter, but there is talk on the other board about Matt A "unfollowing" Walker this morning. We know what that usually means.
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Wonder what the primary reason was
Campus, NY, staff, losing team, better cheerleaders in SEC?
Playing time shouldn't be it
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Wonder what the primary reason was.
$EC
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This is shocking, has to be marked down as a recruiting loss for Matt.
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Unfortunate, if true, but this staff will find another option via grad transfer route etc
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Better get a big space eater in here next year or else.
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Eric Bossi;
Class of 2017 big man @derric__k of @MokanBasketball & @sunrisehoops will be announcing his college decision later on this afternoon.
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Guess St. John's and N.Y.C. was too upscale to use the young man's words. Never thought that upscale and St. John's would be used in the same sentence. Time to move on and find a wide body.
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Ok, no big deal. Not a world beater. This team for next year, if the better players all return, an experienced rebounder is what it's lacking most. Even with a grad transfer lunch pail type, and a Mitchell Foster type, we can get by. But I'm curious to see where Matt turns now. I know he's high on Clark as an interior presence.
What bigs are left?
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Per Zags
2017 F @derric__k will announce at 1 pm on Twitter between Tennessee, Georgia and St. John's.
Prediction: Tennessee.
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Per Zach B
Hearing Kansas forward Derrick Walker likely won't be coming to St Johns, and staff is looking for a big elsewhere.Have a few options #sjubb
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Too bad we just didn't stay on with French
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This is where real scouting comes into play.
If we can't get the 4 or 5 star then go find a kid who's a wide body 3 star type and let him develop.
Boston College used to be great at that when they were in the BE with Danya Abrams and some big white kid from Michigan in the early 2000's.
Those kids can be just as effective in college.
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This is where real scouting comes into play.
If we can't get the 4 or 5 star then go find a kid who's a wide body 3 star type and let him develop.
Boston College used to be great at that when they were in the BE with Danya Abrams and some big white kid from Michigan in the early 2000's.
Those kids can be just as effective in college.
Danya Abrams was considered a top 70 recruit coming out of high school. Abrams was actually a big time scorer and rebounder (coming out of HS). He was also named "Mr. Basketball" in New York during his senior year in HS, too.
Abrams was more of a 4-star kid, and he had better credentials than Walker, coming out of HS.
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Tennessee it is
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Hope he had a nice trip to NY
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Hope he had a nice trip to NY
They always do
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Bummer...
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Ouch..: this one really hurts. To lose a big man and the only freshman in this class. We shall see what the staff comes up with. Obviously this was option A.
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Ouch..: this one really hurts. To lose a big man and the only freshman in this class. We shall see what the staff comes up with. Obviously this was option A.
Option B. Zach Brown was Option A.
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Ouch..: this one really hurts. To lose a big man and the only freshman in this class. We shall see what the staff comes up with. Obviously this was option A.
The problem is, is that this guy was option A
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Prior SJU coaches would've matched most offers. Proud of Mullin here.
But knowing what could've happened, you would hope a plan B is in place.
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On the heels of the ZB fiasco, this is quite the lackluster start to 2017 for Matt.
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What kind of $$ are we talking about in a scenario like this (not Walker per se, but a kid of this level)?
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This is where real scouting comes into play.
If we can't get the 4 or 5 star then go find a kid who's a wide body 3 star type and let him develop.
Boston College used to be great at that when they were in the BE with Danya Abrams and some big white kid from Michigan in the early 2000's.
Those kids can be just as effective in college.
Danya Abrams was considered a top 70 recruit coming out of high school. Abrams was actually a big time scorer and rebounder (coming out of HS). He was also named "Mr. Basketball" in New York during his senior year in HS, too.
Abrams was more of a 4-star kid, and he had better credentials than Walker, coming out of HS.
You're missing my point. And I didn't recall Abrams being that highly ranked coming out of HS but even if he was, he still far exceeded expectations at the college level.
The point is the staff needs to cast a wider net for potential recruits. Between this region, Europe and every other area that this staff recruits, there has to be a few strong bigs left on the market.
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Dammmmnnn.
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It's official he chose Tennessee.
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What kind of $$ are we talking about in a scenario like this (not Walker per se, but a kid of this level)?
Well, in 1995 a classmate of mine at ND, who played hoops there from 95-99, had been offered $5k a year by a school who was then a top tier team in the Big East. And my classmate was the equivalent of a 3/4 star, not an elite recruit. So I can only imagine what the going rate is now when you adjust your shady under the table dollars for inflation!
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Not to sound like sour grapes, but he is the 68th ranked power forward. I would hope we can find a suitable replacement for him.
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This is where real scouting comes into play.
If we can't get the 4 or 5 star then go find a kid who's a wide body 3 star type and let him develop.
Boston College used to be great at that when they were in the BE with Danya Abrams and some big white kid from Michigan in the early 2000's.
Those kids can be just as effective in college.
Danya Abrams was considered a top 70 recruit coming out of high school. Abrams was actually a big time scorer and rebounder (coming out of HS). He was also named "Mr. Basketball" in New York during his senior year in HS, too.
Abrams was more of a 4-star kid, and he had better credentials than Walker, coming out of HS.
You're missing my point. And I didn't recall Abrams being that highly ranked coming out of HS but even if he was, he still far exceeded expectations at the college level.
The point is the staff needs to cast a wider net for potential recruits. Between this region, Europe and every other area that this staff recruits, there has to be a few strong bigs left on the market.
No, I'm not missing your point. Yes, Abrams was a top 70 recruit coming out of HS. You saying, he exceeded expectations is subjective, but based on his HS ranking, then I'm not sure he exactly exceeded expectations on the collegiate level.
http://www.hoopscooponline.com/members/top100classof1993.html
I also think the staff should cast a wider net for potential recruits. A poster called me a few days saying something similar. We're certainly trying to build up the roster, and coming up snake eyes on the 2017 class, as far as bringing in freshmen, isn't quite the best look.
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Whiffing a bit for 2017 has set us back a bit. Not necessarily for next season, but with respect to scholarship distribution. Our new option A has to be grabbing a talented 5th year PF/C for next season. Could always do that and grab a late surging freshman at any position if one pops up, and they always do in the spring. Nothing is over yet. Still plenty of recruiting to do here.
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Matt will target Juco & fifth year transfer pool it appears.
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Whiffing a bit for 2017 has set us back a bit. Not necessarily for next season, but with respect to scholarship distribution. Our new option A has to be grabbing a talented 5th year PF/C for next season. Could always do that and grab a late surging freshman at any position if one pops up, and they always do in the spring. Nothing is over yet. Still plenty of recruiting to do here.
Scholarship distribution is what I intended to say in my previous post. Thanks for bringing it up, MCN!
I do agree, there is plenty of time left and there could be a possible, surging HS senior or even someone reneging on their previous commitment. But, we're someone in a tight spot at the moment, though.
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Matt will target Juco & fifth year transfer pool it appears.
Matt should call Grasso and ask for some tips
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You don't like Matt's recruiting to date?
Matt will target Juco & fifth year transfer pool it appears.
Matt should call Grasso and ask for some tips
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Matt has been great. It's not easy rebuilding a team from scratch and it won't take 2 recruiting seasons, that's for sure. We definitely need a very good and balanced 18' class, but our roster is a nice one with lots of good young players.
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Here's a kid the staff could start targeting....
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/ondigo-emerges-as-one-of-last-quality-big-men-available-for-2017
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Roster balance is always hard when you have to start from scratch with so many freshman in a given class. I'm confident this staff knows how to address the issue. We were going after very few, selected targets for 2017 once the two transfers came on board. Add a big or two next year (depending on roster movement) and load up for 2018 and we should fine in that sense. Matt was very successful playing the transfer game at Iowa St.
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Roster balance is always hard when you have to start from scratch with so many freshman in a given class. I'm confident this staff knows how to address the issue. We were going after very few, selected targets for 2017 once the two transfers came on board. Add a big or two next year (depending on roster movement) and load up for 2018 and we should fine in that sense. Matt was very successful playing the transfer game at Iowa St.
I'd be all over that. I'm not convinced Kennedy was the magic recipe anyway. We just need a strong and serviceable big to help us with interior game.
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This is where real scouting comes into play.
If we can't get the 4 or 5 star then go find a kid who's a wide body 3 star type and let him develop.
Boston College used to be great at that when they were in the BE with Danya Abrams and some big white kid from Michigan in the early 2000's.
Those kids can be just as effective in college.
Except big Danye was a beast in high school, and everyone knew he could play. But yes, you make a valid point. We have been one of the worst evaluators of talent since Coach retired in 1992. IDK why we couldn't have spotted Kyle O'Quinn or AJ English, but to me, the answer is obvious... work harder. We know Matt hustles, but at this point, they need help from anywhere they can get it. We don't desperately need a big man. We desperately need three of them.
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You don't like Matt's recruiting to date?
Matt will target Juco & fifth year transfer pool it appears.
Matt should call Grasso and ask for some tips
When it comes to transfers, 5th year guys and finding unranked talent....I like Grasso
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Good luck in the SEC
What? I have seen no mention of him choosing
It's coming
Interesting. Everyone seemed confident, something must have changed. Makes the Grad transfer that much more of a need. I also don't like that our classes are getting unbalanced again. We are going to bring in zero freshman this year which means in 2-3 years we might have the youngest team in the country again. Maybe we hit the transfer market to combat that.
Walker would have given good balance, but we are still scheduled to have Ponds, Lovett, RF, Simon, and the OSNA kid in three years and even four out of those five would be a nasty group. I'm sure we'll pick up a highly rated young transfer or two in the next 14 months as well. An RF redshirt could also help there.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
Sure, but getting good results in the class of 2018 is in large part continent on excelling on the court during the remainder of this season and in 17-18. And we need a solid big to help do that.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
Sure, but getting good results in the class of 2018 is in large part continent on excelling on the court during the remainder of this season and in 17-18. And we need a solid big to help do that.
Walker wasn't going to produce anything in 2017. It's not reasonable to think a three-star true freshman could outplay a pair of kids with three years of college experience that both were at least as highly regarded coming it of high school. Then factor in Ahmed, RF , and Yakwe.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
Sure, but getting good results in the class of 2018 is in large part continent on excelling on the court during the remainder of this season and in 17-18. And we need a solid big to help do that.
Walker wasn't going to produce anything in 2017. It's not reasonable to think a three-star true freshman could outplay a pair of kids with three years of college experience that both were at least as highly regarded coming it of high school. Then factor in Ahmed, RF , and Yakwe.
If we got him you would be comparing him to Karl Malone. :) As far as 3 stars I heard that the combined rosters of the two Super Bowl teams sport 2 five stars, 6 four stars and the rest are 2 and 3 stars.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
Sure, but getting good results in the class of 2018 is in large part continent on excelling on the court during the remainder of this season and in 17-18. And we need a solid big to help do that.
Walker wasn't going to produce anything in 2017. It's not reasonable to think a three-star true freshman could outplay a pair of kids with three years of college experience that both were at least as highly regarded coming it of high school. Then factor in Ahmed, RF , and Yakwe.
If we got him you would be comparing him to Karl Malone. :) As far as 3 stars I heard that the combined rosters of the two Super Bowl teams sport 2 five stars, 6 four stars and the rest are 2 and 3 stars.
This is actually what I wrote on page four of this thread when it appeared he committed to us: " Good news. Seems like a solid four year guy, but let's not expect anything from him next year."
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Not to sound like sour grapes, but he is the 68th ranked power forward. I would hope we can find a suitable replacement for him.
Exactly!
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The mania on the boards can drive the hysteria to a frenzy. Time to realize a three star player is usually a three star player.
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I'm kind of surprised. Matt has good relationship with Mokan coaches from Iowa St days. Got Marvin and thought Walker would be next in pipeline.
I haven't seen Walker play but impression I get is he was of the Ronald Roberts mold in terms of under recruitment and upside. I'd like to stay away from a transfer unless a 1 yr rental.
2017 bigs are weak especially whats left and attainable.
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He's a big body. W a good inside game. Would have been a nice 4 year player for us. . Between grad transfer, Jucos, red shirts transfers , and decommits, Matt will be on it.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
Sure, but getting good results in the class of 2018 is in large part continent on excelling on the court during the remainder of this season and in 17-18. And we need a solid big to help do that.
Walker wasn't going to produce anything in 2017. It's not reasonable to think a three-star true freshman could outplay a pair of kids with three years of college experience that both were at least as highly regarded coming it of high school. Then factor in Ahmed, RF , and Yakwe.
Part of getting good results is depth behind the guys you mentioned in case of injury, and to push the guys in front of him. A walk on from st francis prep who is 6"6" 200 lbs aint cutting it
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
Sure, but getting good results in the class of 2018 is in large part continent on excelling on the court during the remainder of this season and in 17-18. And we need a solid big to help do that.
Walker wasn't going to produce anything in 2017. It's not reasonable to think a three-star true freshman could outplay a pair of kids with three years of college experience that both were at least as highly regarded coming it of high school. Then factor in Ahmed, RF , and Yakwe.
Part of getting good results is depth behind the guys you mentioned in case of injury, and to push the guys in front of him. A walk on from st francis prep who is 6"6" 200 lbs aint cutting it
I'm in full agreement on that. You can never have too many big bodies and solid four-year guys are the backbone of every good program not named Kentucky.
I was happy when it looked like we had him and I'd still rather have him than not , but it wouldn't surprise me to see the staff upgrade that roster spot with a young 4-star transfer like ala Simon.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
Sure, but getting good results in the class of 2018 is in large part continent on excelling on the court during the remainder of this season and in 17-18. And we need a solid big to help do that.
Walker wasn't going to produce anything in 2017. It's not reasonable to think a three-star true freshman could outplay a pair of kids with three years of college experience that both were at least as highly regarded coming it of high school. Then factor in Ahmed, RF , and Yakwe.
Part of getting good results is depth behind the guys you mentioned in case of injury, and to push the guys in front of him. A walk on from st francis prep who is 6"6" 200 lbs aint cutting it
I was happy when it looked like we had him and I'd still rather have him than not , but it wouldn't surprise me to see the staff upgrade that roster spot with a young 4-star transfer like ala Simon.
Bingo. Get a transfer to play and a transfer to sit. Successful offseason.
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I'd like to stay away from a transfer unless a 1 yr rental.
I'm in agreement with you here. Unless, the sit-out transfer is a complete stud, then I'd also rather stay away.
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This team has got the pieces to compete for the NCAA's next year. A transfer to stash for 2018 is great, but can't go into year 3 without a major upgrade to the low post with a big bodied kid who will rebound and defend.
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Is it wrong of me to wish for failure of these prospects so that future ones might choose St. John's instead?
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This is where real scouting comes into play.
If we can't get the 4 or 5 star then go find a kid who's a wide body 3 star type and let him develop.
Boston College used to be great at that when they were in the BE with Danya Abrams and some big white kid from Michigan in the early 2000's.
Those kids can be just as effective in college.
Danya Abrams was considered a top 70 recruit coming out of high school. Abrams was actually a big time scorer and rebounder (coming out of HS). He was also named "Mr. Basketball" in New York during his senior year in HS, too.
Abrams was more of a 4-star kid, and he had better credentials than Walker, coming out of HS.
You're missing my point. And I didn't recall Abrams being that highly ranked coming out of HS but even if he was, he still far exceeded expectations at the college level.
The point is the staff needs to cast a wider net for potential recruits. Between this region, Europe and every other area that this staff recruits, there has to be a few strong bigs left on the market.
No, I'm not missing your point. Yes, Abrams was a top 70 recruit coming out of HS. You saying, he exceeded expectations is subjective, but based on his HS ranking, then I'm not sure he exactly exceeded expectations on the collegiate level.
http://www.hoopscooponline.com/members/top100classof1993.html
I also think the staff should cast a wider net for potential recruits. A poster called me a few days saying something similar. We're certainly trying to build up the roster, and coming up snake eyes on the 2017 class, as far as bringing in freshmen, isn't quite the best look.
Yeah that definitely would not be good if we don't get another big in here next year. I honestly didn't recall Abrams being that highly ranked coming out so I stand corrected and good call on that.
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As long as the staff brings in top talent for the '18, this loss won't bother me.
Take care of business w the junior class right now and we'll be fine.
If we get a talented but unsatisfied freshman transfer. It could be better than an 18 recruit. It would help Scholarship distribution. And he will be coming in w a year of exp. and redshirt year, would be able to help tight off the bat.
Walker wasn't going to produce anything in 2017. It's not reasonable to think a three-star true freshman could outplay a pair of kids with three years of college experience that both were at least as highly regarded coming it of high school. Then factor in Ahmed, RF , and Yakwe.
Part of getting good results is depth behind the guys you mentioned in case of injury, and to push the guys in front of him. A walk on from st francis prep who is 6"6" 200 lbs aint cutting it
I'm in full agreement on that. You can never have too many big bodies and solid four-year guys are the backbone of every good program not named Kentucky.
I was happy when it looked like we had him and I'd still rather have him than not , but it wouldn't surprise me to see the staff upgrade that roster spot with a young 4-star transfer like ala Simon.
I agree. Getting a guy like Simon might be better than an 18 recruit. If he is a talented , but dissatisfied freshman big,he will balance out scolarships. He will have a year of exp. and a redshirt year, enabling him to really help us his first year of eligibility.
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Any transfer we sign should be extra talented. Bc I think we're in good position for Reid Brown Muhammad etc.
Wouldn't want to interfere w that unless the player is worth it.
A 5th year grad transfer is a different situation. 1 year rentals are fine. And I hope Matt finds the best out there
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Any transfer we sign should be extra talented. Bc I think we're in good position for Reid Brown Muhammad etc.
Wouldn't want to interfere w that unless the player is worth it.
A 5th year grad transfer is a different situation. 1 year rentals are fine. And I hope Matt finds the best out there
Frankly, I don't care about being in "good shape" with a recruit any longer. Granted, you have to be in it to win it, but being in position doesn't excite me. We have to land 'em.
There is also word we're more than likely gonna miss out on Brown. Hey, it's just talk, but that's the word out there now.
Again, I'm all for the one-year rental transfer, but not the sit-out transfer (unless he's a beast).
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Exactly. A one year rental is fine.
No transfers unless they are difference makers.
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Exactly. A one year rental is fine.
No transfers unless they are difference makers.
I'm sure most know we're in need of a couple of bigs. But, hypothetically speaking, if Marcus Keene (guard) of Central Michigan was interested in us, as a 5th year transfer.... I'd be all over him!
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So far staff has had Owens and Lovett sitting out for a RS year. Both have really helped us this year. This year staff has Brown and Simon sitting out for a RS year. We all hope both will really help us next year. You are not going to play 13 guys. I think staff understands and recognizes this, plus potential for player development during that year. Not to mention roster stability. Obviously staff isn't going to take a kid who they dont think can help, but if a quality player is there I think there is a ton of upside in sit-out transfers.
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I wanted one freshman big for the 2017 class, in an ideal world. I figure that Simon and Clark, as transfers, will be better than most if not all of the incoming 2017 prospects we could have gotten (basically outside of the top 20-25 range) and they can slide into the rotation at the 1-3 (Simon) and 3-4 (Clark).
Bring back Yawke and Owens with another year under their belt and extra bulk, and Williams with improved conditioning and another year of health, and I think those 3 plus Clark and possibly a JUCO/grad transfer big and we'll be fine.
Guards we'll have Ponds, Simon, Lovett, Ellison and Mussini. And then Ahmed/Freudenberg as a 3/4.
That puts us at 11. Even if Lovett were to leave (which I hope is not the case), or another guard were jump as some anticipate, we should still be fine depth wise.
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I wanted one freshman big for the 2017 class, in an ideal world. I figure that Simon and Clark, as transfers, will be better than most if not all of the incoming 2017 prospects we could have gotten (basically outside of the top 20-25 range) and they can slide into the rotation at the 1-3 (Simon) and 3-4 (Clark).
Bring back Yawke and Owens with another year under their belt and extra bulk, and Williams with improved conditioning and another year of health, and I think those 3 plus Clark and possibly a JUCO/grad transfer big and we'll be fine.
Guards we'll have Ponds, Simon, Lovett, Ellison and Mussini. And then Ahmed/Freudenberg as a 3/4.
That puts us at 11. Even if Lovett were to leave (which I hope is not the case), or another guard were jump as some anticipate, we should still be fine depth wise.
If we don't lose a valuable piece, this roster merits middle of pack consideration at least I would think. Hard to forecast anything, until all the rosters are fleshed out. In any event, looks like a potentially solid SJU group next season.
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Sign Keith Thomas
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Sign Keith Thomas
Tony & that parking lot in Westchester are gone.
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Darien Williams has 1 year of elidgibility left?
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Darien Williams has 1 year of elidgibility left?
I was told he should be able to get a medical redshirt for next year considering he lost two years to injury. He hasn't applied for it yet.
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Darien Williams has 1 year of elidgibility left?
I was told he should be able to get a medical redshirt for next year considering he lost two years to injury. He hasn't applied for it yet.
What's he waiting for?
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Darien Williams has 1 year of elidgibility left?
Two. He'll get both as well if he wants it. He and SJU essentially hold mutual player and club options for 17/18 and 18/19. He's transformed himself into a guy we really can't do without next year.
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Darien Williams has 1 year of elidgibility left?
Two. He'll get both as well if he wants it. He and SJU essentially hold mutual player and club options for 17/18 and 18/19. He's transformed himself into a guy we really can't do without next year.
Agree with this. Was skeptical, but he looks healthy and strong. He still hasn't cracked his potential even this season. He can get a ton better. Took him a long time to get healthy and on the court.
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Darien Williams has 1 year of elidgibility left?
Two. He'll get both as well if he wants it. He and SJU essentially hold mutual player and club options for 17/18 and 18/19. He's transformed himself into a guy we really can't do without next year.
Agree with this. Was skeptical, but he looks healthy and strong. He still hasn't cracked his potential even this season. He can get a ton better. Took him a long time to get healthy and on the court.
Most two year JUCOs play exponentially better their second season in major college ball. Williams only played one season in JUCO (three years ago) and is probably just hitting near 100% conditioning on top of that. In terms of functional strength, I think he's one of the strongest kids we've ever had. I am cautiously optimistic for his future and that caution is almost entirely based on his health.
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Any transfer we sign should be extra talented. Bc I think we're in good position for Reid Brown Muhammad etc.
Wouldn't want to interfere w that unless the player is worth it.
A 5th year grad transfer is a different situation. 1 year rentals are fine. And I hope Matt finds the best out there
We are not getting Brown.
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Are any guys on Luhi worth a look?
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Why is he shaded in, as if committed to St John's? An editing mistake I assume. Moderator?