6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: kingofk1ngs on April 06, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
St. John's wing Richard Freudenberg will go pro and head back overseas, per source. Did little freshman year. #sjubb
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You gotta be kidding me.
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So we now have 4 available scholarships for the upcoming season and possibly 5 if Amar leaves
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So how many scholarships do we have?
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How many 5th year guys do we now need?
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Not a huge lose. Didn't play well at all last year. Think he is easily replaceable.
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How many 5th year guys do we now need?
Yes, we will have trouble replacing all of his production this past season......
Being serious though this has zero effect on next season maybe he could have been a decent player down the road but he was brutal last year.
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This loss won't change much if any for this upcoming season but it is disappointing that we are giving up on a consensus 4 star recruit that everybody knew would take some time to adjust to the American game after just one season
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I hope this was suspected in Matt's plans and this better not mean that Amar is staying. I'm not upset by this at all, he couldn't cut it here bottom line.
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Addition durch Subtraktion
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How many 5th year guys do we now need?
Yes, we will have trouble replacing all of his production this past season......
Being serious though this has zero effect on next season maybe he could have been a decent player down the road but he was brutal last year.
These kids do t improve throughout the year. Most important addition this year is an assistant coach who knows what he is doing
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I hope this was suspected in Matt's plans and this better not mean that Amar is staying. I'm not upset by this at all, he couldn't cut it here bottom line.
I was hoping that he'd stay and that Mullin could turn him into a player. Maybe they wanted to redshirt him or maybe he got the feeling that he wasn't going to play.
We need wings in addition to big men now.
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(https://3.imimg.com/data3/CH/PY/MY-6892193/revolving-door-250x250.jpg)
Isn't a Revolving Door a euphemism for what Grady Reynolds paid for during that fateful night in Pittsburgh?
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I hope this was suspected in Matt's plans and this better not mean that Amar is staying. I'm not upset by this at all, he couldn't cut it here bottom line.
I was hoping that he'd stay and that Mullin could turn him into a player. Maybe they wanted to redshirt him or maybe he got the feeling that he wasn't going to play.
We need wings in addition to big men now.
Yeah this is not something to just gloss over. Coach was gushing about this kid when he signed. He saw the potential. Less than 12 months later, here we are.
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Not a substantial loss at all. Now we need to add two bigs. Need to scour mid majors, overlooked '17 recruits, and overseas for help.
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I don't think it means anything moving forward. He didn't even show flashes that he could hang at this level, except against Baruch. If we land Kante and Yetna, swapping for the loss of Darien and Freudenberg, I think it's easily a net win and not even close. We need guys that can compete in Big East frontcourt. Darien was decent at times, but oft injured and I don't think we'd miss it if we land others that can do the same, with greater potential.
People can't really be upset that we are losing our 9th-13th guys. We have a lot to improve on from last season. The key is adding better talent...
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So we now have 4 available scholarships for the upcoming season and possibly 5 if Amar leaves
Wait till June when we may have 13 schollies to give out. :D
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(https://3.imimg.com/data3/CH/PY/MY-6892193/revolving-door-250x250.jpg)
Isn't a Revolving Door a euphemism for what Grady Reynolds paid for during that fateful night in Pittsburgh?
Out of curiosity why single him out when there were 6 guys or whatever?
And I don't know the urban dictionary lingo but you might be right.
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(https://3.imimg.com/data3/CH/PY/MY-6892193/revolving-door-250x250.jpg)
Isn't a Revolving Door a euphemism for what Grady Reynolds paid for during that fateful night in Pittsburgh?
Out of curiosity why single him out when there were 6 guys or whatever?
And I don't know the urban dictionary lingo but you might be right.
Only because I thought he was the guy who specifically stiffed the hooker for her payment (pun intended).
I could be wrong though. Memories!
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Just think in 20 years RF can bring his kids to Louie Arena and show them his retired number.
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Game was clearly above him this year (speed and size). But I was looking forward to a full summer of development and hopefully be a rotation player 2017-18 and perhaps more by his Junior year. A little disappointed.
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Game was clearly above him this year (speed and size). But I was looking forward to a full summer of development and hopefully be a rotation player 2017-18 and perhaps more by his Junior year. A little disappointed.
+1
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Most disappointing news all offseason.
And none made a huge impact last year but thats now 4 players who have left the program since the 2016-17 season started.
Thats not good...
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We are maintaining our core and trimming the fat around it. Replace inefficient talent with 4-5 ready made players and watch out. Lets see what Abs has up his sleeve. Nothing that has transpired over the past two weeks has me sweating. I think its encouraging actually. We aren't losing talent, we're getting rid of the players that can't hang in the BE.
Malik-Darien-Rich-Amar&Jessica-Nothing to fret over one bit.
Shamorie-Marcus-Bash-Moose-Yak-Tariq-Marv-JSimon...I really like that team. To think that we can fill in the gaps and add to this core is very exciting.
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We are maintaining our core and trimming the fat around it. Replace inefficient talent with 4-5 ready made players and watch out. Lets see what Abs has up his sleeve. Nothing that has transpired over the past two weeks has me sweating. I think its encouraging actually. We aren't losing talent, we're getting rid of the players that can't hang in the BE.
Malik-Darien-Rich-Amar&Jessica-Nothing to fret over one bit.
Shamorie-Marcus-Bash-Moose-Yak-Tariq-Marv-JSimon...I really like that team. To think that we can fill in the gaps and add to this core is very exciting.
+1. None of this is leaving us bare in any way. We have a great core. Now replace the losses with better players, which I'm sure we can do, and we are rolling...
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I also was disappointed based on expectations. He is very committed to club team and German national team and that I believe contributed to his lack of development as he spent last summer in Europe rather than spend the summer in school and learn the American game. He is probably playing for the German national team in the FIBA under 19's which would have taken him away this summer.
This would have hurt his further development. His club BM probably had guaranteed him a contract at any time when he came and staying here might have devalued that contract. I equate his situation to Amir Garrett's choice. RF had to choose between American ball and German and he went where the prospects were best.
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Anybody who wants the #20 again, needs to commit to a full four years here or guarantee an NBA pick. Time to re-start that legacy.
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Most disappointing news all offseason.
I guess that's true, given that the news this off season hasn't been bad and this is, at best, a small hiccup.
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I also was disappointed based on expectations.
I believe the hype machine is what makes this feel bad. I too was thinking he would be a real player for us down the road, and maybe he would have, but that was all based on the expectations that were laid before I saw him play a single game and not what I saw on the floor. Best of luck to him. It will be interesting to see who we bring in now with all the ships available. It appears Matt's focus was on the 18' class.
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Not a substantial loss at all. Now we need to add two bigs. Need to scour mid majors, overlooked '17 recruits, and overseas for help.
It's not a substantial loss provided they are able to replace him with a better prospect. For whatever reason, he never got comfortable playing in the BE. I think the staff looks a little silly here having now lost 4 players that they brought in. It's not significant pressure because talent is returning, but they need to land some capable players. Guys that will be better than the trajectory Ellison and Williams were on.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
I'm praying that Amar is next Poison, as stated by the JJ big wigs last week.
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Thought they were gonna be able to convince him to stay but he didn't want to fight for PT.
Sucks.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
Btw, the last thing we need is low level guys that don't want to stay and fight for PT because they fail to earn it. Teams like Duke have top 30 kids riding the pine for a few years to fight for PT. no losses here, it's part of the vetting process...
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
Not splitting hairs, but hear staff wanted RF to stay. Not a big deal, but don't think staff perceived him as hopeless case over time.
I don't disagree... I thought he could develop. I thought he had some skills. Thankfully, his marshmallow will to get better showed we didn't need him.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
So players don't get better from their freshman year to their senior year? Give me a break.
Freudenberg was a 4 star prospect for a reason. Everybody knew he would need time to adjust to the American college game and that he wasn't going to average 10 ppg as a freshman. 6-9 kids that can shoot don't grow on trees. Even if he would have just developed into a competent catch and shoot shooter over the next 3 years he would have been more productive than Amar
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
Btw, the last thing we need is low level guys that don't want to stay and fight for PT because they fail to earn it. Teams like Duke have top 30 kids riding the pine for a few years to fight for PT. no losses here, it's part of the vetting process...
Except I think Duke would have been better with Semi Ojeleye this year
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Not a substantial loss at all. Now we need to add two bigs. Need to scour mid majors, overlooked '17 recruits, and overseas for help.
It's not a substantial loss provided they are able to replace him with a better prospect. For whatever reason, he never got comfortable playing in the BE. I think the staff looks a little silly here having now lost 4 players that they brought in. It's not significant pressure because talent is returning, but they need to land some capable players. Guys that will be better than the trajectory Ellison and Williams were on.
No doubt that we need to land upgrades with these extra scholly's. Tariq will be strong next year, but if Yakwe or Clark don't become inside forces and good rebounders then we won't be much better than .500. We definitely need reinforcements under the basket.
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Well, I wish him well and wish us well as well.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
So players don't get better from their freshman year to their senior year? Give me a break.
Freudenberg was a 4 star prospect for a reason. Everybody knew he would need time to adjust to the American college game and that he wasn't going to average 10 ppg as a freshman. 6-9 kids that can shoot don't grow on trees. Even if he would have just developed into a competent catch and shoot shooter over the next 3 years he would have been more productive than Amar
First off, there's nothing about Freudenberg that was "consensus 4 star". Most ratings don't even rate Europeans so I'm not sure where you're getting that from?
Second, I said our worst player left because that is the truth. He left as our worst player statistically. He chose not to stick around. Alibegovic has been here a few years, hustled, got better and helped us win a few games. Freudenberg did zero. I don't blame him for that, but bailing instead of trying to prove he can play at this level isn't a "pro" move in any aspect.
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Game was clearly above him this year (speed and size). But I was looking forward to a full summer of development and hopefully be a rotation player 2017-18 and perhaps more by his Junior year. A little disappointed.
Yeah was bummed to read the news. I was a Freud believer and thought he had a lot of upside for the next 3 years.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
So players don't get better from their freshman year to their senior year? Give me a break.
Freudenberg was a 4 star prospect for a reason. Everybody knew he would need time to adjust to the American college game and that he wasn't going to average 10 ppg as a freshman. 6-9 kids that can shoot don't grow on trees. Even if he would have just developed into a competent catch and shoot shooter over the next 3 years he would have been more productive than Amar
First off, there's nothing about Freudenberg that was "consensus 4 star". Most ratings don't even rate Europeans so I'm not sure where you're getting that from?
Second, I said our worst player left because that is the truth. He left as our worst player statistically. He chose not to stick around. Alibegovic has been here a few years, hustled, got better and helped us win a few games. Freudenberg did zero. I don't blame him for that, but bailing instead of trying to prove he can play at this level isn't a "pro" move in any aspect.
http://247sports.com/player/richard-freudenberg-85519
http://www.scout.com/player/200793-richard-freudenberg
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/50782
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
So players don't get better from their freshman year to their senior year? Give me a break.
Freudenberg was a 4 star prospect for a reason. Everybody knew he would need time to adjust to the American college game and that he wasn't going to average 10 ppg as a freshman. 6-9 kids that can shoot don't grow on trees. Even if he would have just developed into a competent catch and shoot shooter over the next 3 years he would have been more productive than Amar
First off, there's nothing about Freudenberg that was "consensus 4 star". Most ratings don't even rate Europeans so I'm not sure where you're getting that from?
Second, I said our worst player left because that is the truth. He left as our worst player statistically. He chose not to stick around. Alibegovic has been here a few years, hustled, got better and helped us win a few games. Freudenberg did zero. I don't blame him for that, but bailing instead of trying to prove he can play at this level isn't a "pro" move in any aspect.
http://247sports.com/player/richard-freudenberg-85519
http://www.scout.com/player/200793-richard-freudenberg
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/50782
Hey you're right. Not sure how they come up with that BS, probably the same people that brought us Neil Fingleton and that British center I think we signed at one point...
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
Our worst player was one of them. Freudenberg... Amar has been productive at times. There were no signs at this point that Freudenberg would have surpassed that point. Our worst players did leave..
So players don't get better from their freshman year to their senior year? Give me a break.
Freudenberg was a 4 star prospect for a reason. Everybody knew he would need time to adjust to the American college game and that he wasn't going to average 10 ppg as a freshman. 6-9 kids that can shoot don't grow on trees. Even if he would have just developed into a competent catch and shoot shooter over the next 3 years he would have been more productive than Amar
First off, there's nothing about Freudenberg that was "consensus 4 star". Most ratings don't even rate Europeans so I'm not sure where you're getting that from?
Second, I said our worst player left because that is the truth. He left as our worst player statistically. He chose not to stick around. Alibegovic has been here a few years, hustled, got better and helped us win a few games. Freudenberg did zero. I don't blame him for that, but bailing instead of trying to prove he can play at this level isn't a "pro" move in any aspect.
http://247sports.com/player/richard-freudenberg-85519
http://www.scout.com/player/200793-richard-freudenberg
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/50782
Hey you're right. Not sure how they come up with that BS, probably the same people that brought us Neil Fingleton and that British center I think we signed at one point...
Yes, because again, nobody ever improves over the course of their 4 years in college. Ok
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bailing instead of trying to prove he can play at this level isn't a "pro" move in any aspect.
Bailing is an unfair characterization. He's going back to his home country in order to play professional basketball. If he were transferring to a mid major school like Iona in order to pad his statistics against inferior competition that would be bailing. If what's reported is true he's doing nothing other than what any number of other players do or consider doing: moving on to make money playing basketball. Even if he were an NBA talent - which is highly debatable and only a consideration because of his size - he's years away from that. So he's taking the money. Good for him.
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We are maintaining our core and trimming the fat around it. Replace inefficient talent with 4-5 ready made players and watch out. Lets see what Abs has up his sleeve. Nothing that has transpired over the past two weeks has me sweating. I think its encouraging actually. We aren't losing talent, we're getting rid of the players that can't hang in the BE.
Malik-Darien-Rich-Amar&Jessica-Nothing to fret over one bit.
Shamorie-Marcus-Bash-Moose-Yak-Tariq-Marv-JSimon...I really like that team. To think that we can fill in the gaps and add to this core is very exciting.
Jessica?
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To me, this is just further evidence that Lovett is staying for at least one more year. Freudenberg probably thought he would get sometime at the 3 spot. However, if Lovett stays and now Simon comes in. That's 4 guards at the 1 and 2 (assuming Mussini is staying as well). Too much talent to divy up mins at those 2 spots. So one or two of those guys will be playing some decent minutes at the 3. This will eat into his minutes because he's definitely not a 4 or 5.
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bailing instead of trying to prove he can play at this level isn't a "pro" move in any aspect.
Bailing is an unfair characterization. He's going back to his home country in order to play professional basketball. If he were transferring to a mid major school like Iona in order to pad his statistics against inferior competition that would be bailing. If what's reported is true he's doing nothing other than what any number of other players do or consider doing: moving on to make money playing basketball. Even if he were an NBA talent - which is highly debatable and only a consideration because of his size - he's years away from that. So he's taking the money. Good for him.
Fair enough. I'm still skeptical of the "going pro" thing, but I'm sure it's a better move. My "bailing" was mainly in the context that we lost our worst player merely because he was unproductive and chose to move on. Not faulting him for it. I was still hoping we'd see the Freud from the Baruch game but got none of it. Just noting that Alibegovic was more productive, if unspectacular.
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We are maintaining our core and trimming the fat around it. Replace inefficient talent with 4-5 ready made players and watch out. Lets see what Abs has up his sleeve. Nothing that has transpired over the past two weeks has me sweating. I think its encouraging actually. We aren't losing talent, we're getting rid of the players that can't hang in the BE.
Malik-Darien-Rich-Amar&Jessica-Nothing to fret over one bit.
Shamorie-Marcus-Bash-Moose-Yak-Tariq-Marv-JSimon...I really like that team. To think that we can fill in the gaps and add to this core is very exciting.
Jessica?
A one Ms. Turberry, Desco, who certainly didn't help out Matt at the negotiating table lmao- https://twitter.com/JessicaTurberry
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bailing instead of trying to prove he can play at this level isn't a "pro" move in any aspect.
Bailing is an unfair characterization. He's going back to his home country in order to play professional basketball. If he were transferring to a mid major school like Iona in order to pad his statistics against inferior competition that would be bailing. If what's reported is true he's doing nothing other than what any number of other players do or consider doing: moving on to make money playing basketball. Even if he were an NBA talent - which is highly debatable and only a consideration because of his size - he's years away from that. So he's taking the money. Good for him.
If you want to play in the tournament, come to Iona. If you want to play on instagram.....
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Incredibly disappointing news. I thought he could have been a potential stud in two years. This really doesn't affect next season at all, though. The only silver lining here is that there is a good chance he left because of how good Simon and Clark are and/or knowing about a transfer coming aboard.
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I guess our European experiments have failed. Time to grab grad students who have no NBA potential.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
I'm praying that Amar is next Poison, as stated by the JJ big wigs last week.
When you lose 5 would be returning players, even if they weren't so great, you're losing continuity. Not many, but those guys helped us win some games. Staff has to bring in improvements to what left. Judging by what appears to be available, they should be able to, but they have competition. Especially for bigs.
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To me, this is just further evidence that Lovett is staying for at least one more year. Freudenberg probably thought he would get sometime at the 3 spot. However, if Lovett stays and now Simon comes in. That's 4 guards at the 1 and 2 (assuming Mussini is staying as well). Too much talent to divy up mins at those 2 spots. So one or two of those guys will be playing some decent minutes at the 3. This will eat into his minutes because he's definitely not a 4 or 5.
LoVett already said that he's coming back. So, you're right.
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A shame, upside for this kid was huge. His youth (17-18) and inexperience with the American game was a problem but I am certain he would have developed into a starter. Will follow his career to see if I am right. He has the potential to comeback to the US in 4 or 5 years and play in the NBA.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
I'm praying that Amar is next Poison, as stated by the JJ big wigs last week.
When you lose 5 would be returning players, even if they weren't so great, you're losing continuity. Not many, but those guys helped us win some games. Staff has to bring in improvements to what left. Judging by what appears to be available, they should be able to, but they have competition. Especially for bigs.
We aren't losing any continuity except for Ellison who did help us at times. Don't forget, we had Simon and Clark sitting out, practicing with the team and waiting. Those two were going to get big minutes no matter what, so we aren't losing all that much. Williams with 3.8/2.6 per game I don't think is gonna kill us, nor Freud. Let's see who we land but I'm pretty sure we will be able to replace all losses with better players.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
I'm praying that Amar is next Poison, as stated by the JJ big wigs last week.
When you lose 5 would be returning players, even if they weren't so great, you're losing continuity. Not many, but those guys helped us win some games. Staff has to bring in improvements to what left. Judging by what appears to be available, they should be able to, but they have competition. Especially for bigs.
We aren't losing any continuity except for Ellison who did help us at times. Don't forget, we had Simon and Clark sitting out, practicing with the team and waiting. Those two were going to get big minutes no matter what, so we aren't losing all that much. Williams with 3.8/2.6 per game I don't think is gonna kill us, nor Freud. Let's see who we land but I'm pretty sure we will be able to replace all losses with better players.
The key to picking up three and four star players is they usually stay till their senior years. Good seniors help us compete. Having these players leave after one or two seasons hurts us. You're sure we'll be able to replace all losses with better players. I don't see any better players on the board. I know we'll be throwing roses in their paths if they sign with us...only to throw them in the discard pile after the first loss. If we're getting "one and done's", we should make them the five star variety. The recruiting so far is worse than Carnesecca-like lazy.
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A shame, upside for this kid was huge. His youth (17-18) and inexperience with the American game was a problem but I am certain he would have developed into a starter. Will follow his career to see if I am right. He has the potential to comeback to the US in 4 or 5 years and play in the NBA.
I think he has the potential in 4 or 5 years to be 22 or 23. Other that that not as high on his future as you are.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
I'm praying that Amar is next Poison, as stated by the JJ big wigs last week.
When you lose 5 would be returning players, even if they weren't so great, you're losing continuity. Not many, but those guys helped us win some games. Staff has to bring in improvements to what left. Judging by what appears to be available, they should be able to, but they have competition. Especially for bigs.
We aren't losing any continuity except for Ellison who did help us at times. Don't forget, we had Simon and Clark sitting out, practicing with the team and waiting. Those two were going to get big minutes no matter what, so we aren't losing all that much. Williams with 3.8/2.6 per game I don't think is gonna kill us, nor Freud. Let's see who we land but I'm pretty sure we will be able to replace all losses with better players.
The key to picking up three and four star players is they usually stay till their senior years. Good seniors help us compete. Having these players leave after one or two seasons hurts us. You're sure we'll be able to replace all losses with better players. I don't see any better players on the board. I know we'll be throwing roses in their paths if they sign with us...only to throw them in the discard pile after the first loss. If we're getting "one and done's", we should make them the five star variety. The recruiting so far is worse than Carnesecca-like lazy.
Kids like Kante and Yetna are getting good offers. Both are 3-star kids, likely better than anybody who is leaving. We can build with them. In this environment, every team is losing multiple players for the most part. It ain't like it used to be. I think they're both better than we we have except for Ellison, and it is Clark and Simon who are the ones who were the reason Ellison is leaving. Those two are 4 and 5 stars respectively.
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The recruiting so far is worse than Carnesecca-like lazy.
You had to reach past Lavin and Jarvis in your search for lazy recruiters? We must be in dire straits.
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Mullin was in NBA offices for 15 years, the level might've changed but the mindset hasn't. This is Mullin the GM. These players are being told to leave, better talent is coming in. This is being ran as a professional organization. The coming months will prove such.
Are you a little surprised that of the players who have left, our worst player isn't one of them?
I'm praying that Amar is next Poison, as stated by the JJ big wigs last week.
When you lose 5 would be returning players, even if they weren't so great, you're losing continuity. Not many, but those guys helped us win some games. Staff has to bring in improvements to what left. Judging by what appears to be available, they should be able to, but they have competition. Especially for bigs.
We aren't losing any continuity except for Ellison who did help us at times. Don't forget, we had Simon and Clark sitting out, practicing with the team and waiting. Those two were going to get big minutes no matter what, so we aren't losing all that much. Williams with 3.8/2.6 per game I don't think is gonna kill us, nor Freud. Let's see who we land but I'm pretty sure we will be able to replace all losses with better players.
+1. We haven't lost much in the way on continuity. All of the major contributors from last season are back and we are adding two transfers who practiced all last year.
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The recruiting so far is worse than Carnesecca-like lazy.
You had to reach past Lavin and Jarvis in your search for lazy recruiters? We must be in dire straits.
If hoping to be an NIT bubble team puts us in dire straits...we're in dire straits.
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The recruiting so far is worse than Carnesecca-like lazy.
You had to reach past Lavin and Jarvis in your search for lazy recruiters? We must be in dire straits.
If hoping to be an NIT bubble team puts us in dire straits...we're in dire straits.
Do we get our money for nothing and our chicks for free?
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The recruiting so far is worse than Carnesecca-like lazy.
You had to reach past Lavin and Jarvis in your search for lazy recruiters? We must be in dire straits.
If hoping to be an NIT bubble team puts us in dire straits...we're in dire straits.
Do we get our money for nothing and our chicks for free?
They're only free because we don't pay them afterwards.
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The recruiting so far is worse than Carnesecca-like lazy.
You had to reach past Lavin and Jarvis in your search for lazy recruiters? We must be in dire straits.
If hoping to be an NIT bubble team puts us in dire straits...we're in dire straits.
Do we get our money for nothing and our chicks for free?
They're only free because we don't pay them afterwards.
An oldie but goodie.
Even though it brought on the Norm misery you have to admire that team's bargaining abilities
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Who is going we did not expect ?
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What's the matter, something good going to happen to St John's?
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What's the matter, something good going to happen to St John's?
Could be a good thing. Depends on who you ask
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What's the matter, something good going to happen to St John's?
Could be a good thing. Depends on who you ask
Had we but world enough and time. Do you know that one? Of course not, you went to Iona. Howa bout if you please refuse, until the conversion of the Jews. Ring a bell? Of course not, because ditto.
And then the worms shall try
Thy long-preserved virginity,
And your quaint honor turned to dust,
And into ashes all my lust;
The grave’s a fine and private place,
But none, I think, do there embrace.
The thing about coy bitches is
that most of them swallow.
Do you follow?
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What's the matter, something good going to happen to St John's?
Could be a good thing. Depends on who you ask
Had we but world enough and time. Do you know that one? Of course not, you went to Iona. Howa bout if you please refuse, until the conversion of the Jews. Ring a bell? Of course not, because ditto.
And then the worms shall try
Thy long-preserved virginity,
And your quaint honor turned to dust,
And into ashes all my lust;
The grave’s a fine and private place,
But none, I think, do there embrace.
The thing about coy bitches is
that most of them swallow.
Do you follow?
How cute
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Ut oh
What's the matter, something good going to happen to St John's?
Could be a good thing. Depends on who you ask
Had we but world enough and time. Do you know that one? Of course not, you went to Iona. Howa bout if you please refuse, until the conversion of the Jews. Ring a bell? Of course not, because ditto.
And then the worms shall try
Thy long-preserved virginity,
And your quaint honor turned to dust,
And into ashes all my lust;
The grave’s a fine and private place,
But none, I think, do there embrace.
The thing about coy bitches is
that most of them swallow.
Do you follow?
How cute
Ut oh
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Signing with Fraport Skyliners Frankfurt
Also home to Baldi's friend AJ English
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Signing with Fraport Skyliners Frankfurt
Also home to Baldi's friend AJ English
Pretty good league. Shame it couldn't work for him in Queens.