6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: gman on May 20, 2011, 11:08:20 PM
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Did anyone else notice he is now #5 in the 2012 class! Someone loved him. MCNPA or Moose?
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Did anyone else notice he is now #5 in the 2012 class! Someone loved him. MCNPA or Moose?
Love his game but SJUFan2 has a man crush on the same level of mine to Lavin :)
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Yeah, I really love mcgary's game but sjufan was first on that bandwagon. I'd take him over both Anderson and gathers. He's a scoring big msn which there are very few of. Kevin love lite.
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I thought of him more as a Tyler Hansbrough. He was non stop motor and dunking all over people.
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What is his relationship with SJU? Is the staff recruiting him and is he showing interest?
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What is his relationship with SJU? Is the staff recruiting him and is he showing interest?
We've never been mentioned really with him. He is roommates with Sampson. The only time I ever recall him mentioning STJ was saying on Twitter he was going to watch the STJ/Duke game.
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I'd bet on mcGary heading to Kansas when all is said and done.
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Indiana native so I would think Hoosiers will get a good shot with him....
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/7255/brewsters-mcgary-shines-at-may-classic (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/7255/brewsters-mcgary-shines-at-may-classic)
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By the time its all said and done he could easily be the #1 player in his class. The size and skill to go along with the motor puts him ahead of Drummond imo. I think Lavin must have gotten a vibe that said pursuit would be fruitless, I look for this kid to go with Duke or Kentucky in the end.
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Michigan. Big get for Beilein!
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Michigan. Big get for Beilein!
He committed to UM?
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Michigan. Big get for Beilein!
He committed to UM?
No
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I thought we were all speculating. That's just my prediction.
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By the time its all said and done he could easily be the #1 player in his class. The size and skill to go along with the motor puts him ahead of Drummond imo. I think Lavin must have gotten a vibe that said pursuit would be fruitless, I look for this kid to go with Duke or Kentucky in the end.
Not "easily" - he'd have to climb over Shabazz Mohammad - that ain't gonna be easy. If you haven't seen Mohammad, using our kids as a comparison - if you could combine Harrison's offense and leadership with Garrett's defense and athleticism and merge all that into SirDom's body with his intensity, you'd have a player CLOSE to Shabazz...
It looks like he's gonna stay on the West Coast - rumors have him a heavy UCLA lean, still considering Arizona. UNC, Duke, Kansas & Kentucky are trying hard to get in with him, as is Pitino. Only reason Steve isn't working him is that we'll be 5 deep with sophmores at his position....
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I see McGarry at Notre Dame.
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With our extra ship I would go hard after him now.
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With our extra ship I would go hard after him now.
I agree wholeheartedly. We do have Jakarr to get in his ear. I still think he'll head back to the Midwest, but we'll see.
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the kid looks like he would love both our system and New York itself.
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Let's at least spell his name right. Recruits take that seriously: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/UNC-recruit-P-J-Hairston-Duke-couldn-t-spell-?urn=ncaab-wp2870 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/UNC-recruit-P-J-Hairston-Duke-couldn-t-spell-?urn=ncaab-wp2870)
Would this Indiana kid want to remain out east?
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The Terps have been recruiting McGary for awhile, but I think since he bumped up the rankings, we just know Self and Barnes will ramp up recruiting. On a funny throwback side note, I want McGary to go to UMD because the Terps lead for Shaquille Cleare out of Texas. I could not help envision a new "Louie and Bowie" show, an "Ernie and Bernie" show, and now a "Shaq and Mac Attack." Not sure if the new staff can pull it off, but I had to think Gary Williams had a shot with a guy named McGary!
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I see McGarry at Notre Dame.
Nope. Too highly ranked. Notre Dame never gets top guys and that may be by design. Cool for them if he went, though. McGary's at Brewster to boost his academics, I thought? Which makes him a harder sell to Notre Dame.
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The staff must get him in for a visit. Need Sampson to work him.
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I see McGarry at Notre Dame.
Nope. Too highly ranked. Notre Dame never gets top guys and that may be by design. Cool for them if he went, though. McGary's at Brewster to boost his academics, I thought? Which makes him a harder sell to Notre Dame.
You're kidding, right?
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I see McGarry at Notre Dame.
Nope. Too highly ranked. Notre Dame never gets top guys and that may be by design. Cool for them if he went, though. McGary's at Brewster to boost his academics, I thought? Which makes him a harder sell to Notre Dame.
You're kidding, right?
Which part? Notre Dame partisans often complain about the admissions standards to the school as hindering their recruiting - moreso in football, where they would LOVE to dominate once more.
Notre Dame hasn't gotten a highly ranked player/ McDAA level player since Chris Thomas (I think - I welcome any corrections) and they do a great job of targeting guys who fit their system and grow with the system. I think they were on the final Zeller and Plumlee but never got close. I don't see Mike Brey suddenly pulling Mitch McGary back to Indiana.
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I see McGarry at Notre Dame.
Nope. Too highly ranked. Notre Dame never gets top guys and that may be by design. Cool for them if he went, though. McGary's at Brewster to boost his academics, I thought? Which makes him a harder sell to Notre Dame.
You're kidding, right?
Which part? Notre Dame partisans often complain about the admissions standards to the school as hindering their recruiting - moreso in football, where they would LOVE to dominate once more.
Notre Dame hasn't gotten a highly ranked player/ McDAA level player since Chris Thomas (I think - I welcome any corrections) and they do a great job of targeting guys who fit their system and grow with the system. I think they were on the final Zeller and Plumlee but never got close. I don't see Mike Brey suddenly pulling Mitch McGary back to Indiana.
Here's a list of the top 5 HS football players in the country.
endee has offered all 5.
Think they're all better students than McGarry?
http://recruiting.scout.com/ (http://recruiting.scout.com/)
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I did a non exhaustive check on RSCI but from what I could tell UND has not recruited a top 100 player out of HS since Goady who was #83 in 2006. Luke Zeller was their last top 50 in 2005. That speaks to the "never gets top guys" part, not the by design part.
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Nope. Too highly ranked. Notre Dame never gets top guys and that may be by design. Cool for them if he went, though. McGary's at Brewster to boost his academics, I thought? Which makes him a harder sell to Notre Dame.
You're kidding, right?
Which part? Notre Dame partisans often complain about the admissions standards to the school as hindering their recruiting - moreso in football, where they would LOVE to dominate once more.
Notre Dame hasn't gotten a highly ranked player/ McDAA level player since Chris Thomas (I think - I welcome any corrections) and they do a great job of targeting guys who fit their system and grow with the system. I think they were on the final Zeller and Plumlee but never got close. I don't see Mike Brey suddenly pulling Mitch McGary back to Indiana.
Here's a list of the top 5 HS football players in the country.
endee has offered all 5.
Think they're all better students than McGarry?
http://recruiting.scout.com/ (http://recruiting.scout.com/)
I don't want to get into an argument when we're talking about McGary (why is everyone tossing in an extra "r"?) that takes us off topic. But let me address your issues.
I don't know if Notre Dame has gotten better at football recruiting. But in Charlie Weis'/ Ty Willingham's days and previous to that, there was concern that the academic standards hurt recruiting. There are top players who can meet the Irish's academic admission requirements and can remain in school, but it's a struggle. Read more here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/11/25/notre.dame/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/11/25/notre.dame/) Here's a quote:
Notre Dame officials made a critical choice a few years ago. They could lower their academic standards to allow in better athletes so alumni could take pride in their football team, or they could keep those standards high so alumni could take pride in their university.
By placing the school's primary mission above athletic success, they chose correctly. Unfortunately, Notre Dame fans must accept the consequences.
That's in football, with their deep history. That issue was at the heart of Paul Hornung's comments in 2004 (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/01/sports/football/01RHOD.html?ex=1081798457&ei=1&en=1bf80512efb6726e). and it applies to basketball as well, which is a logical assumption. For example, here (http://www.ndnation.com/blog/labels/jack%20swarbrick.html (http://www.ndnation.com/blog/labels/jack%20swarbrick.html)):
Admissions standards limit the pool of highly rated recruits available to Notre Dame. Urban public school players dominate the top 50 in recruiting rankings, and Notre Dame will not admit all but one or two of them in any given year. In addition, a large percentage of Catholic and/or suburban high school basketball stars will not qualify academically for Notre Dame.....
As a result, Notre Dame's men's basketball coach recruits from a pool of mostly three star players from suburban high schools with strong academics. Few of these players are prepared to be Big East level contributors, with an average of about one per year able to earn significant playing time right away. Many become fine players in time, but it takes time to polish skills to compensate for other athletic deficiencies.
Just because Notre Dame has offered the countries' best players doesn't mean they will get those players. It also could mean that the current staff has gotten the Irish to relax their standards. Or those players are good students. Or they just recruit who they can until they find out that said player can't hang in the classroom or cross the admissions threshold.
But maybe they are all better students than McGary. Here are some comments on McGary:
http://www.theboilingpoints.com/2011/05/2012-rivals-rankings-features-three.html: (http://www.theboilingpoints.com/2011/05/2012-rivals-rankings-features-three.html:) No. 5 Mitch McGary: Purdue coach Matt Painter and the Boilers were once very early favorites for McGary, but academic issues scared them away. It looks like the big man out of Northwest Indiana might have his act in order and is turning it on in terms of basketball. He was ranked No. 92 in the previous rankings.
also
http://www.indystar.com/article/20110516/SPORTS02/105160315/Prep-school-helps-Chesterton-s-McGary-his-grades-his-game: (http://www.indystar.com/article/20110516/SPORTS02/105160315/Prep-school-helps-Chesterton-s-McGary-his-grades-his-game:) A year ago on the Assembly Hall floor at the Adidas May Classic, Mitch McGary was surrounded by a horde of reporters and bluntly admitted that his road back from academic woes would be a long one.
At that time, the 6-10 Chesterton native was considered as much of a project as a top high school basketball prospect. The talent was obvious, but the desire wasn't always as evident.
McGary even talked about quitting basketball. That article is from this month.
As for Notre Dame doing it by design, that's what I have heard; and after 11 years, i think Mike Brey knows how not to waste time recruiting. You don't see him pulling a Norm Roberts and chasing some player he's late on until all the Truck Bryants are long gone and the Syl Landesbergs are committed somewhere else and he's left with TyShwan Edmondsons. A good coach knows who fits his system and executes a recruiting plan that's realistic. Notre Dame isn't sniffing at Kyle Anderson or Shabazz Muhammad, because they know what battles they're likely to win.
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Visiting UCONN this weekend unofficially...
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Visiting UCONN this weekend unofficially...
I don't see why any top 150 player would commit to a program when the head coach as of last week says there is a 55% chance he'll be back this year. That equates to a 1% chance he'll be back the year after and 0% thereafter. Only guy I can see heading the is possibly Drummond, because there is no chance he's there longer than a year unless he flops like Fab Melo.
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From ESPN Rumors and Dave Telep-
ESPN's Dave Telep recently wrote about 2012's Mitch McGary and according to the recruiting evaluator, McGary is probably not going to land at either IU or Purdue, two schools he hasn't spoken to since March.
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Uconn and Michigan trying to get McGary to reclassify back to 2011 and enroll in the fall.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/statuses/75650178664771584
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To Michigan
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan)
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To Michigan
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan)
Good that he went to Michigan and didn't pick Duke. Good luck there I look forward to watching him play except if he ever plays us.
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To Michigan
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan)
Good that he went to Michigan and didn't pick Duke. Good luck there I look forward to watching him play except if he ever plays us.
Trying not to speculate too much, but JaKarr may look at who is coming in to Michigan (Robinson III, Stauskas) and figure he'll start at PF by end of Frosh year. I worry MM may be in his ear all season. Plus, being a midwest guy - sigh. I'm not gonna worry about it since I know he needs to get back with his guys if he's smart.
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Michigan. Big get for Beilein!
Thanks for the applause. My first correct prediction (other than the obvious ones).
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To Michigan
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan)
Good that he went to Michigan and didn't pick Duke. Good luck there I look forward to watching him play except if he ever plays us.
Trying not to speculate too much, but JaKarr may look at who is coming in to Michigan (Robinson III, Stauskas) and figure he'll start at PF by end of Frosh year. I worry MM may be in his ear all season. Plus, being a midwest guy - sigh. I'm not gonna worry about it since I know he needs to get back with his guys if he's smart.
I wouldnt worry about Michigan.
Eric Bossi of Rivals did mention that Kansas is now getting involved with Jakarr.
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To Michigan
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7186833/no-2-ranked-prep-prospect-mitch-mcgary-commits-michigan)
Good that he went to Michigan and didn't pick Duke. Good luck there I look forward to watching him play except if he ever plays us.
Trying not to speculate too much, but JaKarr may look at who is coming in to Michigan (Robinson III, Stauskas) and figure he'll start at PF by end of Frosh year. I worry MM may be in his ear all season. Plus, being a midwest guy - sigh. I'm not gonna worry about it since I know he needs to get back with his guys if he's smart.
I wouldnt worry about Michigan.
Eric Bossi of Rivals did mention that Kansas is now getting involved with Jakarr.
makes sense - they put all their eggs in the Kaleb basket and got burned bad. They will agressively pursue any and all top players that they have even a remote chance with.
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
Kob can you elaborate at all on why he doesn't want Jakaar at STJ?
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He's also close with Naadir Tharpe (Brewster) who is currently a freshman at Kansas.
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
I remember hearing that it was a similar situation with Ricardo Ledo from a friend that's and Providence Alum. There were rumblings that the coach wanted him to go to I think NC or Kentucky and talked him into his original de-commitment. He wanted the exposure of his kids going to bigger program than Providence. Definitely could be a similar situation with Jakarr and he Brewster coach. These coaches have a lot of pull with these kids and sometimes seem to use it to there advantage.
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
Heard the same thing.
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
Heard the same thing.
If he likes kansas, let him go to kansas
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
Heard the same thing.
If he likes kansas, let him go to kansas
He may have interest in Kansas, but that doesn't mean he wants to go there. Actually, from what is being stated, he's being pushed towards Kansas.
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
The brewster coach Jason Smith is probably getting greased by Kansas. Hate to say it, but I've heard the brewster coach isn't good news like I thought. Take a look at his Twitter page. The guy's page is a Kansas shrine to KU, with KU sports, Jayhawk Slant and others he is following. Wouldn't be surprised if he was a Jayhawk grad and/or booster. Maybe somebody can find out.
https://twitter.com/#!/Brewsterhoops
Hopefully Jakarr keeps his head on straight. I wish he was at Bridgton though.
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He's also close with Naadir Tharpe (Brewster) who is currently a freshman at Kansas.
He also sent Thomas Robinson to KU.
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
The brewster coach Jason Smith is probably getting greased by Kansas. Hate to say it, but I've heard the brewster coach isn't good news like I thought. Take a look at his Twitter page. The guy's page is a Kansas shrine to KU, with KU sports, Jayhawk Slant and others he is following. Wouldn't be surprised if he was a Jayhawk grad and/or booster. Maybe somebody can find out.
https://twitter.com/#!/Brewsterhoops
Hopefully Jakarr keeps his head on straight. I wish he was at Bridgton though.
Actually, Smith went to college with Bino Ranson at a Mass based college, cannot recollect offhand. That's why Bino got so deep with Mitch. Terps asst Scott Spinelli also knows Smith. But something stinks in Kansas. Gonna start looking like Laurinberg Prep for Cal - total Memphis feeder school gone wrong, although Brewster has a good reputation from the little I've read and heard. Except for watching after and remedying JS's issues.
Got it - Southern New Hampshire '99
btw, with boarding, Brewster is 45k+ per year
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its the coach at brewster who is doing this. not jakaar. the brewster coach doesnt want him at st.johns. he likes kansas
The brewster coach Jason Smith is probably getting greased by Kansas. Hate to say it, but I've heard the brewster coach isn't good news like I thought. Take a look at his Twitter page. The guy's page is a Kansas shrine to KU, with KU sports, Jayhawk Slant and others he is following. Wouldn't be surprised if he was a Jayhawk grad and/or booster. Maybe somebody can find out.
https://twitter.com/#!/Brewsterhoops
Hopefully Jakarr keeps his head on straight. I wish he was at Bridgton though.
Actually, Smith went to college with Bino Ranson at a Mass based college, cannot recollect offhand. That's why Bino got so deep with Mitch. Terps asst Scott Spinelli also knows Smith. But something stinks in Kansas. Gonna start looking like Laurinberg Prep for Cal - total Memphis feeder school gone wrong, although Brewster has a good reputation from the little I've read and heard. Except for watching after and remedying JS's issues.
Got it - Southern New Hampshire '99
btw, with boarding, Brewster is 45k+ per year
Thanks for the info. I never liked it when prep coaches start "steering" kids to and away from certain schools. It's never good. Btw, smith is also associate Dean of admissions at Brewster. Love how the bball coach also runs the admissions department...lol. Fwiw, I still really hope we can get Jakarr on board here. I think he's a heck of a talent. There is PT for him here for sure. I haven't totally given up on him and though maybe that ship has sailed, it seems Jakarr is still real close with Pelle and the others and I think he'd be a great addition for 2012. I know the staff is still involved which is good.
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Sure could use a guy like this down low.
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Sure could use a guy like this down low.
I would even take a guy like Canty, the big on Fordham. We need bulk for sure. BTW, do we have a weight room? Ha!
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Sure could use a guy like this down low.
I would even take a guy like Canty, the big on Fordham. We need bulk for sure. BTW, do we have a weight room? Ha!
We have a guy like him Christian jones but he gets no burn.
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Sure could use a guy like this down low.
I would even take a guy like Canty, the big on Fordham. We need bulk for sure. BTW, do we have a weight room? Ha!
We have a guy like him Christian jones but he gets no burn.
Just because he is almost the same size doesn't mean they are alike and these guys certainly are not alike. Canty more like the ND kid, an inside player and a banger, where as CJ is more of an outside skill guy that doesn't utilize his big body.
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Playing very well today vs. Mich State.
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Playing very well today vs. Mich State.
Not gonna be a star, but will be a solid big. Getting 6/6 on the season, shooting 57% from the floor. Given his skill set, Michigan was a REALLY strange place to go. Beilein's bigs in his offense usually have to have perimeter game, of which McGary has zero (no 3s attempted this year, only 45% FTs). Think back to Beilein's successful West Virginia teams, with 7'0 260 Kevin Pittsnogle, who shot over 600 3s, and made over 250 (41%) in his 4 years playing in that system.
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Would have loved this big to have come in with Karr and the Hooper.