6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: fordham96 on January 18, 2012, 12:10:10 PM
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Heard some rumblings myself but per Winston himself on scout.com sounds like he is ready to add SJU to his list of possible suitors. Probably friendly with Amir and everyone knows Lavin is close to the Findlay Prep program.
Per scout.com:
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1149805.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1149805.html)
For a while now Shepard has had a final five of New Mexico, Oklahoma State, San Diego State, UNLV, and UTEP, but two new schools look to be entering the picture.
“I do have five finalists, but St. John’s and Oregon have been showing a lot of interest so I am probably going to add them as well,” said Shepard.
For the Red Storm or the Ducks to get on the level of the others who have been recruiting him for far longer, it is going to take a major effort.
“It’s just going to take them showing that they really want me and them being honest with me,” Shepard explained. “I just have to see if I fit in with the staff, and if I do then I will consider those schools.”
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AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
#Stjbb has offered 6-7 Findlay Prep SF Winston Shepard, sources confirm to SNY.tv. Story coming tomorrow on @5starbasketball
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/105987/winston-shepard (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/105987/winston-shepard)
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4323764 (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4323764)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Winston-Shepard-98643 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Winston-Shepard-98643)
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Heres a recent video. Hes around the :28 mark
#1 Findlay Prep Game Mix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNbBRyGmGLY#ws)
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Winston Shepard keeps it real (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saT6Mp7SAMo#ws)
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Talk about relationships I thought I read that Shepard is originally from Houston area.
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Talk about relationships I thought I read that Shepard is originally from Houston area.
He is from Texas
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Seems to me like another long lanky guy like Mo and Jakaar. Would be great to see those three on the court at the same time, would be very hard to defend.
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Here is what Neal Nieves said about Shepard's defense (Nieves gets a chance to see lots of west coast kids in action)....
St Johns tossed its hat into the Winston Shepard sweepstakes smart move. Kid is probably a top 3 defender in the country.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/NealNieves/status/159687871312314369
Also passes the ball well and plays his part so well. Will be a solid team player wherever he goes.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/NealNieves/status/159688057405186049
Raphielle Johnson, per NBE Basketball, replied....
I'd argue Top 3 defender regardless of class.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/raphiellej/status/159688351140687872
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Talk about relationships I thought I read that Shepard is originally from Houston area.
Too much of a coincidence that he pops up a week after Branch lands on campus. He's also go the ties with Amir Garrett from Findley...so gotta like our chances with two top 50 Houston kid like Harrison and Branch.
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Watching his videos you can tell he can pass the ball. Most of his highlights are assists.
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Watching his videos you can tell he can pass the ball. Most of his highlights are assists.
The kid is a nice overall player. Not a project. Fantastic rebounder, passer and can play both inside and out. He'd be a big asset from day 1. Really long, plays hard and has a nose for the basket. Reminds me a bit of Georgetown's Jerome Williams.
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Talk about relationships I thought I read that Shepard is originally from Houston area.
Too much of a coincidence that he pops up a week after Branch lands on campus. He's also go the ties with Amir Garrett from Findley...so gotta like our chances with two top 50 Houston kid like Harrison and Branch.
Marillac, can you give us your 30 second clip expert critique on Winston?
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This offer is a push to Jakarr Sampson to commit before April. The message is we have another player with your skill set to whom we are offering a scholarship. The first to bite is in while the other we will wait and see after we fill a post position, a guard, a power forward and possibly a JC transfer. It is a smart move and would be a great get of a player that is blowing up right now. The scouting reports say he can guard all five positions and at 6'9 handles and passes the ball better than anyone we now have on the team. I am exited about this offer and hope that the Amir/Harrison/Branch connection pays off.
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I like Winston's court vision - kid can play. We need Winston. Reminds me of Pelle, but able to pass the ball better.
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He looks like a great player. Very smooth.
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This offer is a push to Jakarr Sampson to commit before April. The message is we have another player with your skill set to whom we are offering a scholarship. The first to bite is in while the other we will wait and see after we fill a post position, a guard, a power forward and possibly a JC transfer. It is a smart move and would be a great get of a player that is blowing up right now. The scouting reports say he can guard all five positions and at 6'9 handles and passes the ball better than anyone we now have on the team. I am exited about this offer and hope that the Amir/Harrison/Branch connection pays off.
Lets hope the move works. We have 5 legit targets that we are after right now (jakarr, gathers, opekba, sanchez, and shepard) I hope we are able to land 3 of them, which along with branch, would give us a great team moving forward regardless of which three it is. I just hope we land at least one out of gathers/sampson
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This offer is a push to Jakarr Sampson to commit before April. The message is we have another player with your skill set to whom we are offering a scholarship. The first to bite is in while the other we will wait and see after we fill a post position, a guard, a power forward and possibly a JC transfer. It is a smart move and would be a great get of a player that is blowing up right now. The scouting reports say he can guard all five positions and at 6'9 handles and passes the ball better than anyone we now have on the team. I am exited about this offer and hope that the Amir/Harrison/Branch connection pays off.
I've seen a bit of Shepard in Findlay games. He might be a smidge below the athlete that Jakarr is, but he's got a much more rounded and focused game. Jakarr has a ton of potential. Shepard is a craftier player at this point, better passer and defender. Shepard also has a nice jumpshot and midrange game. He's a recruit on par with Jakarr for us and I sensed too that it was a move to push one of our current targets(namely Jakarr). I'd take a commit from whomever picks first. Time for Jakarr to commit to this program if he really wants to be here.
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We should start a pool to guess who among jakarr, gathers, opekba, sanchez, and shepard will commit first. For some reason, I'm feeling Gathers. No logic involved, just gut.
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This offer is a push to Jakarr Sampson to commit before April.
I believe it's more indicative of the recruiting style of the staff. We are not going to wait until Jakarr makes up his mind, we are going to move forward.
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The scouting reports say he can guard all five positions and at 6'9 handles and passes the ball better than anyone we now have on the team.
Average handle at best for a SF...definitely above average for a PF. His vision seems to be pretty incredible, although a lot of his passes seem to be flashy (highlight video?). Seems like a kid you would only want taking 3-4 dribbles either after grabbing a board and going or attacking the basket. I like the use of the body down low...in rhythm after the boards...tough to teach that. Great length...surely not the athlete Sampson is, but who is?
Prototypical Lavin recruit right here.
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The scouting reports say he can guard all five positions and at 6'9 handles and passes the ball better than anyone we now have on the team.
Average handle at best for a SF...definitely above average for a PF. His vision seems to be pretty incredible, although a lot of his passes seem to be flashy (highlight video?). Seems like a kid you would only want taking 3-4 dribbles either after grabbing a board and going or attacking the basket. I like the use of the body down low...in rhythm after the boards...tough to teach that. Great length...surely not the athlete Sampson is, but who is?
Prototypical Lavin recruit right here.
He reminds me of Mason Jr when he dribbles
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Findley Prep is on ESPNU now (playing Shabazz Muhammad and his Bishop Gorman squad).
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Findley Prep is on ESPNU now (playing Shabazz Muhammad and his Bishop Gorman squad).
Kid plays some D.
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Findley Prep is on ESPNU now (playing Shabazz Muhammad and his Bishop Gorman squad).
Kid plays some D.
A very, solid defensive player. By the way, Paul Biancardi stated (paraphrase), "Shepard is still growing."
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Per Alex Kline and Ryan Greene (UNLV Beat Writer)....
UConn, St. John's, Oregon, San Diego St, New Mexico, UNLV & Oklahoma St are in contention for Winston Sheppard, per @ryanmgreene.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/status/161542669229764608
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Shepard looks like he could be a special player for us, possessing perhaps more upside than any of the other bigs that we are currently coveting. Anyone know if he's academically on track?
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FWIW on ESPN insider today they call Sheppard a Michael Kidd-Gilchrist clone.
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we would have a shut down d if we get him and obekpa
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FWIW on ESPN insider today they call Sheppard a Michael Kidd-Gilchrist clone.
I see that. So athletic.
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Per Alex Kline....
2012 Findlay Prep (NV) SF Winston Shepard had a triple-double with 16 points, 11 rebounds & 10 assists last night.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/status/162637127467806720
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Need to get him for a visit
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EvanDanielscout Evan Daniels
One of best defenders in class. Top 5? YES! RT @TheLoboLair how much has @WinnShepard_35 grown since summer and is he a top 5 defender?
And Shephard said he's 6'9", not 6'6" or 6'7" like he's commonly listed. I see more 6'9" than the others in the videos.
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Sign him up. The way hes growing he would be 6 10 by next year.
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Sign him up. The way hes growing he would be 6 10 by next year.
A very, solid defensive player. By the way, Paul Biancardi stated (paraphrase), "Shepard is still growing."
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The question I have is why has his recruitment been so wide open whereas most kids are down to a small number and have been for awhile.
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The question I have is why have we not seen him pictured with a pipe?
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WinnShepard_35 Im 6 9 not 6 6 lol i havent been tht since 9th grade
so 6'9" it is.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
He has a good, floor game. Somewhat of a jack of all trades-type.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
He has a good, floor game. Somewhat of a jack of all trades-type.
DJ Kennedy?
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
Perhaps you may have misunderstood. I didn't say he wasn't an elite athlete. He's just not a leaper. Sometimes people associate athleticism exclusively with that. Like I said he moves so well laterally which is certainly very athletic.
As for being highly ranked without being strong player offensively on the perimeter isn't uncommon. There is plenty more faucets of the game than shooting the ball beyond the arc.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
Perhaps you may have misunderstood. I didn't say he wasn't an elite athlete. He's just not a leaper. Sometimes people associate athleticism exclusively with that. Like I said he moves so well laterally which is certainly very athletic.
As for being highly ranked without being strong player offensively on the perimeter isn't uncommon. There is plenty more faucets of the game than shooting the ball beyond the arc.
that's correct dave. our own sir dom was our most highly ranked recruit (according to several sources). yet he suffers from the least polished offensive game of all the players.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
He has a good, floor game. Somewhat of a jack of all trades-type.
Kind of reminds me of a taller Reggie Jessie. I would imagine that once he bulks up a bit in college, he can play the 4 although a bit undersized. He jumps ok but has great court vision, has a knack to get an open ball, is a tenacious defender, and a gifted passer.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
Perhaps you may have misunderstood. I didn't say he wasn't an elite athlete. He's just not a leaper. Sometimes people associate athleticism exclusively with that. Like I said he moves so well laterally which is certainly very athletic.
As for being highly ranked without being strong player offensively on the perimeter isn't uncommon. There is plenty more faucets of the game than shooting the ball beyond the arc.
Gotcha. When you said he was grounded I thought that meant less athletic. I'm following you now though.
If he plays above average D and sees the floor well that's enough for me.
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This article is from last week regarding the Findlay Prep Bishop Gorman game. Sounds like he locked down the #1 recruit in the country pretty good. His quotes remind me of Sir Doms when we were recruiting him. He takes pride in his defense. If we land him along with some of the other bigs we are working on we would be a very good defensive team.
"I played good defense because I took it personal," Shepard said after the game, which Findlay won 73-61. "Our coach pointed out some stuff and showed us what the media were saying and what people were trying to say -- [Muhammad's] unstoppable and this and that. I just wasn't buying into that, to be honest with you guys, and so I took I personal and tried to do the best job I could do."
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/01/26/findlay.bishop.gorman/index.html#ixzz1lA3lg21V (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/01/26/findlay.bishop.gorman/index.html#ixzz1lA3lg21V)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/01/26/findlay.bishop.gorman/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/01/26/findlay.bishop.gorman/index.html)
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
He has a good, floor game. Somewhat of a jack of all trades-type.
Kind of reminds me of a taller Reggie Jessie. I would imagine that once he bulks up a bit in college, he can play the 4 although a bit undersized. He jumps ok but has great court vision, has a knack to get an open ball, is a tenacious defender, and a gifted passer.
I'm not sure I like the comparison. Jessie was 6'5, with short arms, and poor lateral movement. Shepard is 6'8/6'9 and growing with great length and top-notch lateral quickness. Jessie also had a better handle...both seem like they can distribute well above average. He seems more like a Lance Thomas to me.
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
He has a good, floor game. Somewhat of a jack of all trades-type.
Kind of reminds me of a taller Reggie Jessie. I would imagine that once he bulks up a bit in college, he can play the 4 although a bit undersized. He jumps ok but has great court vision, has a knack to get an open ball, is a tenacious defender, and a gifted passer.
I'm not sure I like the comparison. Jessie was 6'5, with short arms, and poor lateral movement. Shepard is 6'8/6'9 and growing with great length and top-notch lateral quickness. Jessie also had a better handle...both seem like they can distribute well above average. He seems more like a Lance Thomas to me.
Didnt see much of lance thomas in high school but wasnt he pretty much just a inside player?
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I don't care what he says. He's not 6'9 he's 6'7 not an inch taller. He's not a super athlete vertically but he moves so well laterally and is long which is what makes him such a good defender. Really doesn't bring much around the perimeter offensively in terms of shooting but sees the floor well. For comparison sake he's like more grounded Amir Garrett.
He's being ranked awfully high for someone without an offensive repertoire or elite athleticism.... or size from what Dave says.
He has a good, floor game. Somewhat of a jack of all trades-type.
Kind of reminds me of a taller Reggie Jessie. I would imagine that once he bulks up a bit in college, he can play the 4 although a bit undersized. He jumps ok but has great court vision, has a knack to get an open ball, is a tenacious defender, and a gifted passer.
I'm not sure I like the comparison. Jessie was 6'5, with short arms, and poor lateral movement. Shepard is 6'8/6'9 and growing with great length and top-notch lateral quickness. Jessie also had a better handle...both seem like they can distribute well above average. He seems more like a Lance Thomas to me.
Didnt see much of lance thomas in high school but wasnt he pretty much just a inside player?
I believe he's talking about Shepard's overall game being similiar to Lance Thomas' game. Shepard isn't limited to the inside, but he isn't a perimeter player either.
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What's our realistic chances here? Seems we got involved late while he already has relationships established with SDSU, UTEP, New Mexico, etc.
Will he be visiting soon?
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What's our realistic chances here? Seems we got involved late while he already has relationships established with SDSU, UTEP, New Mexico, etc.
Will he be visiting soon?
The good news is that the schools are all in weaker conferences.
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The bad news is San Diego State has definitely made inroads, according to my SDSU buddy and hoops junkie. May just be another drunor, but worth noting.
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Rumor, sorry
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The bad news is San Diego State has definitely made inroads, according to my SDSU buddy and hoops junkie. May just be another drunor, but worth noting.
The bad news is that we're recruiting against the two guys I really don't trust. Scott Drew and Steve Fisher.
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The bad news is San Diego State has definitely made inroads, according to my SDSU buddy and hoops junkie. May just be another drunor, but worth noting.
The bad news is that we're recruiting against the two guys I really don't trust. Scott Drew and Steve Fisher.
Thats a nice way to put it. I think someone posted that if its Baylor or us, time to move on. Can we puy San Diego St and UCLA in that category?
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in play
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Like the sound of that
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in play
what is it that your hearing???
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in play
Gracias. I think Winston Shepard would be a great look for SJU. Great defender and rebounder. Crafty passer with size. Great to stick next to Moe. Would give him soooooo much help up front one can't believe. Shepard also plays with passion and takes the game personally like D'Lo, something I love about him. Shepard would be an instant starter at PF next to Moe, and people don't realize how good we'd be right there, with Branch added.
Fwiw, I love Jakarr too. I'm just disappointed that he's been hemming and hawing for sooooo long. Jakarr, if you love the coaches and want to be part of this then just do it. I have no idea if jayson smith is a problem but is suspect he might be. I'd love both, but if Winston wants to be here, then I want guys like that. Lavin has put enough time into Jakarr. If he can't figure out that SJU wants him and he'd be in a good spot, then that's on him...
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Article from Zags:
Lavin to Visit Findlay’s Winston Shepard
By Adam Zagoria on February 14, 2012, 11:44PM
While his team is mired in a four-game losing streak, St. John’s head coach Steve Lavin continues to recruit to land players for next season and beyond.
Lavin is on the West Coast and will be at Henderson (Nev.) Findlay Prep Wednesday to watch senior forward Winston Shepard, sources told SNY.tv. Findlay (23-1), No. 2 in the nation, plays host to ABCD Academy.
The 6-foot-8 Shepard is the Rivals No. 10 small forward in the Class of 2012. He is coming off a 10-point, 5-rebound, 5-assist game last Friday in an 82-47 win at Lubbock (Texas) Trinity.
Shepard has previously said his top five were New Mexico, Oklahoma State, San Diego State, UNLV and UTEP, but said he would also consider Oregon and St. John’s.
While in California, Lavin also checked out some younger players at Harvard-Westlake, St. John’s Bosco, Taft and Serra.
Harvard-Westlake also features 6-8 senior power forward Zena Edosomwan.
Edosomwan lists Harvard — the school that produced Jeremy Lin — as his top choice but will need the required SAT score to get in.
If not, St. John’s may have a shot.
“He’s an incredible athlete who can run the floor with anybody in the country and finish around the rim,” Harvard-Westlake coach Greg Hilliard told SNY.tv in December.
“He’s played less basketball than a lot so his polish needs to be worked on. I think everybody sees him as a four who can run the floor, rebound and block shots and has a nice handle.
“He’s a polite, high-character kid. That’s why everybody puts him so high on the list. He’s very academic oriented.”
St. John’s is also keying in on 6-8 forward JaKarr Sampson of Brewster (N.H.) Academy, a St. John’s decommit who visits Kansas Feb. 25, and 6-9 shot-blocker Chris Obekpa of Our Savior New American.
Obekpa is considering numerous schools, including Seton Hall, which beat St. John’s, 94-64, Tuesday night, handing the Johnnies their fourth straight loss
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2012 Findlay Prep (NV) F Winston Shepard had 19 points, 17 rebounds & 10 assists last night. Steve Lavin of St. John's will see him today.
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2012 Findlay Prep (NV) F Winston Shepard had 19 points, 17 rebounds & 10 assists last night. Steve Lavin of St. John's will see him today.
Too bad Daddy Lavs missed the triple double.
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2012 Findlay Prep (NV) F Winston Shepard had 19 points, 17 rebounds & 10 assists last night. Steve Lavin of St. John's will see him today.
Too bad Daddy Lavs missed the triple double.
The real triple double is Lavin landing 3 players with double digit ranking in the 2012. We need guys like Winston here.
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2012 Findlay Prep (NV) F Winston Shepard had 19 points, 17 rebounds & 10 assists last night. Steve Lavin of St. John's will see him today.
Too bad Daddy Lavs missed the triple double.
The real triple double is Lavin landing 3 players with double digit ranking in the 2012. We need guys like Winston here.
Ohh please make it so!! 3 top 100 recruits will set this board on fire.
Sampson fits our system best, Obekpa may be our biggest need, but the more I hear of Sheppard the more I think he may be the kind of all around player that would benefit us most in the long haul. Some size, rebounds well, plays defense, and passes well from the post. Plus the typical Lavin-athlete.
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Can sheppard shoot? We have athletes we need guys who can put the ball in the basket.
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Can sheppard shoot? We have athletes we need guys who can put the ball in the basket.
Good to midrange. Can stick outside shots to. His passing and defense are special for a big forward.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Winston Shepard just committed to San Diego State, a source tells CBSSports.com: bit.ly/w5dKIE
Another one off the list.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Winston Shepard just committed to San Diego State, a source tells CBSSports.com: bit.ly/w5dKIE
Another one off the list.
Wow. Now I'm worried.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Winston Shepard just committed to San Diego State, a source tells CBSSports.com: bit.ly/w5dKIE
Another one off the list.
Wow. Now I'm worried.
Sucks, but we came in late, not shocked.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Winston Shepard just committed to San Diego State, a source tells CBSSports.com: bit.ly/w5dKIE
Another one off the list.
Wow. Now I'm worried.
Sucks, but we came in late, not shocked.
True, but it seemed like we were in good shape. Hopefully Lavin wasn't counting him as one of the 4 or 5.
We need some good news around here soon.
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Does Shepard have academic issues, hence making SDSU the pick?
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Does Shepard have academic issues, hence making SDSU the pick?
As I noted a while ago, SDSU has been solid with him for some time. It is an attractive program to many kids, especially West Coast players.
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In other news, Pollee's dad is advising his son to transfer again. ;)
I hope Sheppard starts from day 1 over Dwayne.
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Really need a guy like Jakarr at this point.. Lavin not really strong with this 2012 class and it has hurt us getting in late with much of the class. Hopefully Lavin can salvage.
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Wow is all I can say.
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MCNPA wrote:
This hurts,but the ball is on Lavin's court. Being so public about a top ten class means he has to deliver at least a solid one. If not I would think of him in terms of PT Barnum and Rex Ryan. Not being negative, just noting it his job to deliver. I have faith he will.
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As I noted a while ago, SDSU has been solid with him for some time. It is an attractive program to many kids, especially West Coast players.
And considering that 95 percent of the players that our staff is recruiting are from West Coast we will have to fight many times against SDSU.
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Hey if Lavin counted on Shepard being in the 4-5 guys for our 2012 class, clearly this hurts (although Lavin may have seen this coming when he altered his estimated hall for 2012 in his tweets).
I know the Spring signing period is far from over, but Baylor and SDSU have gotten two of our recruits to commit to them, and all we have is Branch, who's obviously not part of the 2012 class. I think we need to seriously downgrade any expectations for a strong 2012 recruiting class. If we land one recruit ranked within top 100 with three or four solid role players, that is looking like our best case scenario. Hope I'm wrong.
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Hey if Lavin counted on Shepard being in the 4-5 guys for our 2012 class, clearly this hurts (although Lavin may have seen this coming when he altered his estimated hall for 2012 in his tweets).
I know the Spring signing period is far from over, but Baylor and SDSU have gotten two of our recruits to commit to them, and all we have is Branch, who's obviously not part of the 2012 class. I think we need to seriously downgrade any expectations for a strong 2012 recruiting class. If we land one recruit ranked within top 100 with three or four solid role players, that is looking like our best case scenario. Hope I'm wrong.
Fair point.
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Hey if Lavin counted on Shepard being in the 4-5 guys for our 2012 class, clearly this hurts (although Lavin may have seen this coming when he altered his estimated hall for 2012 in his tweets).
I know the Spring signing period is far from over, but Baylor and SDSU have gotten two of our recruits to commit to them, and all we have is Branch, who's obviously not part of the 2012 class. I think we need to seriously downgrade any expectations for a strong 2012 recruiting class. If we land one recruit ranked within top 100 with three or four solid role players, that is looking like our best case scenario. Hope I'm wrong.
Our best shots landing 2 from the Sampson, Obekpa, Edosomwan group. My confidence certainly has taken a hot losing Shepard. Young and Sanchez become more critical as well. Hope Lavin has something up his sleeve. As I said, we really need Jakarr here.
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I think the main guys here are Sampson and Obekpa.
Speaking to another poster this morning, I told him I'm never confident trying to get in with kids late in the game. Although I thought we had a shot with Shepard, I was never optimistic.
We have 7 rotational players as of right now for next season.
Realistically we don't need 5 or 6. If we can add 2 bigs and a shooter, I think we would be more than fine.
I'm not an eternal optimist but thats my opinion.
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I have no faith that Jakarr will end up here. Call me pessimistic, but if he wanted to be here, he'd be signed up.
I'm going to tweet Lavin and see what's up? I'm sure he'll respond.
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Witholding judgement until May but this is not good. Not really expecting all that great of a class this year.
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Lavin certainly under the gun to salvage the class. I think he was pretty confident with Shepard. Ths has to be a blow. Landing Jakarr, Edosomwan and others becomes more critical as the talent pool shrinks. This class can certainly still be a good one, but it won't be easy for Lavin here with not much left on the table in terms of talent.
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It's a dangerous game when you are putting all of your eggs in (a) a player who de-committed from our program (b) a player who is being recruited by virtually every team on the east coast.
I think Lavin should have tempered the fans expectations. Tweeting that you are fully expecting to land a top ten class is a bold claim and it'll look that much worse if he doesn't pull it off. Overall, this entire season has been an absolute disaster.
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Not sure what to read in this. Realize the nature of Coach Lavin's health challenge, but wonder if he's feeling the difficulty of creating a successful program in an environment with such high frustration and thirst for a competitive product.
“@STJCoachLavin: Taking the long view vital to success in this business. Kipling's "If" linked here: http://t.co/L1UJVufj (http://t.co/L1UJVufj) #stjbb”
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Not sure what to read in this. Realize the nature of Coach Lavin's health challenge, but wonder if he's feeling the difficulty of creating a successful program in an environment with such high frustration and thirst for a competitive product.
“@STJCoachLavin: Taking the long view vital to success in this business. Kipling's "If" linked here: http://t.co/L1UJVufj (http://t.co/L1UJVufj) #stjbb”
He coached at UCLA. He should be used to it.
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Not sure what to read in this. Realize the nature of Coach Lavin's health challenge, but wonder if he's feeling the difficulty of creating a successful program in an environment with such high frustration and thirst for a competitive product.
“@STJCoachLavin: Taking the long view vital to success in this business. Kipling's "If" linked here: http://t.co/L1UJVufj (http://t.co/L1UJVufj) #stjbb”
He coached at UCLA. He should be used to it.
Look what that got him
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Not sure what to read in this. Realize the nature of Coach Lavin's health challenge, but wonder if he's feeling the difficulty of creating a successful program in an environment with such high frustration and thirst for a competitive product.
“@STJCoachLavin: Taking the long view vital to success in this business. Kipling's "If" linked here: http://t.co/L1UJVufj (http://t.co/L1UJVufj) #stjbb”
A deep poem linked, and no doubt he's feeling every bit of the frustration that we are. Hes feeling it ten fold wnd is under lots of pressure to produce. My only hope is he returns to the sidelines and builds a long career here. I think the doubts about him coming back, the USC job and others are the biggest problem here and taking the biggest toll. I see how ugly these boards have gotten. I think the main issue is that fans really want to know when and IF we are getting our coach back. Lavin has answered that, but the only real answers come over the next few years. I have no doubt this program is in fantastic shape if Lavin is committed to be here for the long haul. It's rough to have your coach out for an entire year when we are supposed to be rebuilding. The foundation will continue to leak until he's back on the sideline and it's business as usual. Stability is the key to success with Lavin moving forward. This class can still come together to have a solid group on the court next year. Onward and upward...
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I think the doubts about him coming back, the USC job and others are the biggest problem here and taking the biggest toll. I see how ugly these boards have gotten.
Everyone spreading the USC rumors needs to ask themselves what John Wooden would say to him about taking that job. He's not leaving after only one full season to take another college job, especially at a school he hates.
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Lavin's primary target this class has and will always be Sampson. Sampson will be a Johnny. I think we all got a little greedy wanting two top 50 hybrid forwards, but the reality is that doesn't happen too often. We got spoiled with Lavin adding four top 75 wings last year. That may never happen again in college. Obepka is the second target and I think we land both.
I have to admit I am shocked Shepard would commit to SDSU the day after Lavin visited him. It's hard to get involved late with a kid, but SDSU? C'mon...what conference are they even in next year? Sanchez was the plan B to Shepard...let's get that done and move on.
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Sampson Will be a Johnny. I can say that according to people who works with program all say same thing. He will be first to sign unless you count branch.
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Sampson Will be a Johnny. I can say that according to people who works with program all say same thing. He will be first to sign unless you count branch.
Hopefully, Brian Colleary isn't your source.
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Sampson Will be a Johnny. I can say that according to people who works with program all say same thing. He will be first to sign unless you count branch.
Thats encouraging. What do these people say about Opekpa? If we can get both and a shooter well be in great shape, but as of now its only an if.
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Thats encouraging. What do these people say about Opekpa? If we can get both and a shooter well be in great shape, but as of now its only an if.
I can't speak on Opekpa but staff feels they have as good As chance as anyone. Sounds vague but they know that he loves spotlight which makes sju so appealing. This is just what I was told
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Sampson Will be a Johnny. I can say that according to people who works with program all say same thing. He will be first to sign unless you count branch.
this is true until he visits Kansas, Baylor, and FL. It's a different world out there. Kids change their mind at a moments notice.
What's working for us is that Sampson already has a deep relationship with Amir, Mo, Dom, and 3-Lo. He spent the entire summer with Amir. And balled with Mo, Dom, and 3-Lo during the summer. That gives us a slight edge. But again, the school visits can sway him away quickly.
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Sampson Will be a Johnny. I can say that according to people who works with program all say same thing. He will be first to sign unless you count branch.
Do you expect them to say something negative? I feel good only if and when he announces.
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I believevif they were not confident they would of said. These are guys I still see on more than just a "hey what's up with recruits". They are not always right, who is? I will agree though until he signs there is no guarantee and I guess with a lot of kids whose grades r not up to par it is never a guarantee until they step on campus for that first practice.
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“@sdutzeigler: SDSU freshman Winston Shepard is suspended 3 games by NCAA for minor "impermissible benefits" violation. http://t.co/lzL0mAm6 (http://t.co/lzL0mAm6)”
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“@sdutzeigler: SDSU freshman Winston Shepard is suspended 3 games by NCAA for minor "impermissible benefits" violation. http://t.co/lzL0mAm6 (http://t.co/lzL0mAm6)”
Why did the NCAA allow him to play against NCAA? Trying to help the tv ratings?
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5.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.3 apg in over 20 mpg
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5.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.3 apg in over 20 mpg
Dwayne polee who?