6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: paultzman on February 29, 2012, 07:01:48 PM
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Seems to imply Hall, Jefferson HS scorer, being recruited by SJU or am I misreading Nate's tweet?
“@Nateblueis4real: #STJbb target RT @NYPost_Brazille: Goodness RT @JeffersonBBall: Thaddeus Hall from Thomas Jefferson leads all scores 34points at the half”
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You're correct his tweet reads "STJBB target"
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Spelled Thaddeus. I know some people here are sensitive about misspelling a recruits name
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Sorry for the spelling error. This guy had a nice game today.
“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @JeffersonBBall: Final score is Jeff wins 86-76 Thaddeus Hall had the high with 39pts Jaquan Lynch had 17pts #tjcball”
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He's a senior
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He's a senior
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Another kid who will most likely go prep or Juco .
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Jefferson coach Lawrence Pollard tells me star Thaddeus Hall has "slim chance" to qualify.
https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/175057481213550592
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Jefferson coach Lawrence Pollard tells me star Thaddeus Hall has "slim chance" to qualify.
https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/175057481213550592
Thanks for the info Gonzalo.
Edit: Didn't realize Thaddus is class of 2013, so my mistake in thinking he presented an eligibity issue.
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St. John's offered Jefferson's Thaddeus Hall after his 25-point effort today, per coach Lawrence Pollard. #boyshoops #stjbb
Hall has a lot of work to do academically to qualify, but he's got a chance. #boyshoops
Per Zach Braziller
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Jefferson coach Lawrence Pollard tells me star Thaddeus Hall has "slim chance" to qualify.
https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/175057481213550592
I know I'm old and really old fashioned. But in my day, if a high school coach was aware one of his players wasn't getting it done in the classroom, he didn't see the court.
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He should be moved to the 2012 class . He is a senior.. And basketball wise ,, he is really good.
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He should be moved to the 2012 class . He is a senior.. And basketball wise ,, he is really good.
Would you consider him a scorer or a shooter?
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He should be moved to the 2012 class . He is a senior.. And basketball wise ,, he is really good.
Would you consider him a scorer or a shooter?
He can really really shoot the ball .
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Thaddeus Hall 39 points PSAL Playoffs 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-31lgJnEBEg#)
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Jefferson coach Lawrence Pollard tells me star Thaddeus Hall has "slim chance" to qualify.
https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/175057481213550592
I know I'm old and really old fashioned. But in my day, if a high school coach was aware one of his players wasn't getting it done in the classroom, he didn't see the court.
the fact that he would have trouble qualifying does not mean he has bad grades; he might not have all of the core courses demanded by the NCAA. in NYC public High schools, there are a significant number of kids who get into senior year and then find out they don't have all the core courses that they need to get to graduate. there is a scandal in one of the Queens public HS's this fall that over half of the seniors who thought they were on track found out in the fall that courses they were told counted towards the graduation requirements, did not count. Similar issue in a Bronx HS. The kids just don't get the guidance they need in the public HS's.
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Perhaps we can suggest a summer program to help him along?
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Interesting
“@NYPost_Brazille: St. John's offered Jefferson's Thaddeus Hall after his 25-point effort today, per coach Lawrence Pollard. #boyshoops #stjbb”
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Sorry I missed previous posting
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Looks pretty good. Has pretty good size and a nice touch. He shoots the ball from his shoulder but I love those lefties
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Good.
What other schools are recruiting him?
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/continuing_lights_out_play_hall_f50bzyntRDzlXDQTpGqKGJ (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/continuing_lights_out_play_hall_f50bzyntRDzlXDQTpGqKGJ)
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I am sorry but I just don't buy the "they don't get the guidance they need" line.
This information is available to all the kids via the NCAA website and if they have a coach or AAU guy who is looking out for them they should have an idea where they stand as they start their Sophomore school year. The problem is that the coaches don't have the players best interest at heart all the time and just want them academically eligible. They might have their players passing but they might not be passing the right classes and that is the problem. The PSAL has strict grade guidelines and the coaches know that if they have their players in the right core classes and they are struggling academically, they might not be eligible to play during the season.
I am certainly not saying this happens everywhere but its happens a lot.
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I am sorry but I just don't buy the "they don't get the guidance they need" line.
I don't disagree with most of your post . But guidance counselors had no clue about the NCAA standards when I was in school(a long time ago). What if a kid asks a guidance counselor and gets a wrong answer? I would say that is not uncommon. I relied on a counselor in college. She confidently told me what classes i need to qualify for the CPA exam. She was wrong. Luckily I found out from another student before it was too late and I did not have to pay for 3 extra credits. Point is I could see kids relying on counselors and not getting proper help in a public school never mind a private college.
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I think the problem is with the education system. Make everyone take four years of English, four years of history, four years of a language, four years of math, and four years of science (it was Earth science, biology, chemistry, and physics for me), and there won't be issues with not having the proper classes. When I was in high school, I had friends at Sewanhaka taking two study halls and gym senior year, and leaving by noon every day. They graduated, but the requirements to do so were a joke.
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Good.
What other schools are recruiting him?
Jefferson's Thaddeus Hall has recently picked up offers from Tex Tech, Maryland, SCarolina V Tech, per coach Lawrence Pollard.
https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/176864655606685696
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Nice article
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THADDEUS HALL ADDS OFFER FROM ST. JOHN’S; MORE SCHOOLS ON ’12 SCORING MACHINE
March 6, 2012 by NBE Blogger · Leave a Comment
Thaddeus Hall can score the basketball. Nobody would need to look any further than his second round of the PSAL Class AA playoffs performance last week. The 6-foot-5, 195-lb senior for Thomas Jefferson High School scored 34 first half points to lead his team to to an 86-76 win over Robeson. Hall finished with a career-high 39 points, including six three-pointers, in the contest. Like a true leader, Hall praised his teammates in the aftermath, although he still admitted the first half outburst has been the highlight of his year so far.
“My season is going great,” Hall told NBE. “ can’t believe how much the underclassmen [are] stepping up [and] playing this good. My highlight of the season is scoring 34 in the first half on Paul Roberson [last Wednesday].”
Hall followed up the 39-point explosion with 25 more in Sunday’s win over Wadleigh in the quarterfinals. The back-to-back performances has led to a scholarship offer that has really gotten his attention.
“Yes after the Sunday game I [have] been offered by St. John’s,” Hall said. “I love St. John’s [and] they fit my style of play. They play very hard like me…that’s how they play hungry and hard. It’s a great school and have a nice campus and a great history of players that went to St. John’s.”
The Red Storm are not the only program showing interest. Hall also mentioned to NBE that he is considering schools such as West Virginia, NC State, Providence, Pittsburgh, Marist, Virginia Tech, Miami, Fordham, Texas Tech, Maryland and South Carolina along with St. John’s. He is definitely remaining open to the process and will look to take some visits once the season comes to a conclusion.
“No I have no favorites or leaders at this time,” he said. “I thank I will wait until my season is over [for visits] and I think it will be an unofficial visit for now if I want to take a look somewhere.”
Hall, who spent some time suspended because of academics earlier in the season, is making up for lost time on the court and his recruitment is also catching up with his talent. He will look to make a college decision following the season as he is concentrating on earning a city title right now. While he is a great scorer, Hall will also be looking for a coach that will appreciate him even more for what he does on the other side of the court.
“Most important part of making my decision is if I’m comfortable with the coaching staff and the school,” said Hall. “I’m never worrying about playing time because every coach is gonna play a kid who loves to play defense and make plays, so that’s what I’m gonna do.”
Hall feels his defensive ability and his long-range shooting will allow him to contribute the most early in his future college career. He also feels being a lefty will cause difficulties for the opposing players guarding him.
Thaddeus Hall will certainly be a player to keep an eye on to see if he can make his way onto a Division 1-A roster next season. If he is able to, he could be quite a steal as a late signing period pick-up.
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http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0306/thaddeus-hall-adds-offer-from-st-johns-more-schools-on-12-scoring-machine/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0306/thaddeus-hall-adds-offer-from-st-johns-more-schools-on-12-scoring-machine/)
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Hope this kid finds a way to qualify this season or even over the summer. Would be a good situation for him and for us. I don't know how far he has to go, but sounds like a quality scorer and shooter which we could really use.
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This offer scares me. The kid is good but not "That" good. Been watching him since he was at loughlin and always struck me as a mid-major player to potential high level talent but not the type that would make lavin reference his class to "the most impressive yet". I've made a bunch of comparisons on these boards to him but lately he's resembling the forward over at Bridgeton right now, who played with Amir in is8. Can't recall his name right now.
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I only have one question: Can he shoot?
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This offer scares me. The kid is good but not "That" good. Been watching him since he was at loughlin and always struck me as a mid-major player to potential high level talent but not the type that would make lavin reference his class to "the most impressive yet". I've made a bunch of comparisons on these boards to him but lately he's resembling the forward over at Bridgeton right now, who played with Amir in is8. Can't recall his name right now.
Malik Nichols?
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This offer scares me. The kid is good but not "That" good. Been watching him since he was at loughlin and always struck me as a mid-major player to potential high level talent but not the type that would make lavin reference his class to "the most impressive yet". I've made a bunch of comparisons on these boards to him but lately he's resembling the forward over at Bridgeton right now, who played with Amir in is8. Can't recall his name right now.
Malik Nichols?
Yeah him , just not as long. Nichols had a couple scoring outbursts last year even a 37 point output against harkless, just like hall has the ability to fill it up every now and then but not really that polished all-around.
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This offer scares me. The kid is good but not "That" good. Been watching him since he was at loughlin and always struck me as a mid-major player to potential high level talent but not the type that would make lavin reference his class to "the most impressive yet". I've made a bunch of comparisons on these boards to him but lately he's resembling the forward over at Bridgeton right now, who played with Amir in is8. Can't recall his name right now.
We just offered Hall, so I doubt that he's one of the kids Lavin was referencing when referring to the stellar recruiting class he's expecting.
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This offer scares me. The kid is good but not "That" good. Been watching him since he was at loughlin and always struck me as a mid-major player to potential high level talent but not the type that would make lavin reference his class to "the most impressive yet". I've made a bunch of comparisons on these boards to him but lately he's resembling the forward over at Bridgeton right now, who played with Amir in is8. Can't recall his name right now.
We just offered Hall, so I doubt that he's one of the kids Lavin was referencing when referring to the stellar recruiting class he's expecting.
I hope so because I think there's better "eligible" talent out there still. Hall suffers from the same syndrome as jermaine Lawrence. We might read a crazy stat line from these guys but we have to be mindful of who it came against. Aside from whitehead and maybe Justin Jenkins and Galan the NYC public league in this day and age is scarce of high level talent. It's a shame.
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I only have one question: Can he shoot?
Oh yeah!
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Lavin better have more up his sleeve then Hall. He aint gonna help us if he doesnt qualify.
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how hard is it to qualify? he plays in the psal, so to be eligible he has to have passed his classes.
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how hard is it to qualify? he plays in the psal, so to be eligible he has to have passed his classes.
He may have had to pass his classes but he may not be taking the correct classes. There are core classes required by the NCAA. I don't know the requirements off hand but basically say a student needs to take say 3 sciences, 3 maths, 2 social studies, etc. (those aren't the requirements but you get the picture) A student could be passing but fail to meet the core by not taking enough math classes.
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how hard is it to qualify? he plays in the psal, so to be eligible he has to have passed his classes.
He may have had to pass his classes but he may not be taking the correct classes. There are core classes required by the NCAA. I don't know the requirements off hand but basically say a student needs to take say 3 sciences, 3 maths, 2 social studies, etc. (those aren't the requirements but you get the picture) A student could be passing but fail to meet the core by not taking enough math classes.
You also need to have a GPA in those core classes and based on that a minumum SAT or ACT score based on a sliding scale
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From what Ive been reading, it seems there is a good chance he wont qualify.
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http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1171&script=content.asp&cid=1340057&fid=&tid=&mid= (http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1171&script=content.asp&cid=1340057&fid=&tid=&mid=)
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Thaddeus Hall, has offers from St. John’s, Texas Tech, Maryland, Virginia Tech and South Carolina, coach Lawrence (Bud) Pollard said. The senior needs to finish strong and up his SAT score .
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/inside_point_boys_hoops_psal_class_fZt7kCPi1M0oPRte6QXkZO#ixzz1oYcd5urS (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/inside_point_boys_hoops_psal_class_fZt7kCPi1M0oPRte6QXkZO#ixzz1oYcd5urS)
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Dam these NYC kids and their grades & the mayor wants to cut education in this city. Don't get it
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Come on, are we really blaming the mayor because these kids don't take care of their own academics.
People talk about basketball being down in the city and its a farce. The players are still coming out of the youth programs but 3/4 of them don't pay attention to school and have to leave the area because they are more worried about getting exposure then taking care of their school work.
Its amazing that the rise of players leaving the area and the increase in academic questions marks has risen along the same lines as has the level of influence of AAU coaches.
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there must be a reason why at least 1 of every 3 public high school students in NYC does not graduate (probably 4 of 10) yet the NYC Catholic schools graduate nearly 100% with their graduates going to college if they want to. this done with great differential in budgets.
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Warning, the "off topic" police are watching. ;D
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I am a NYC teacher. The problem NYC schools have is there are no rules. In catholic school their are rules, students understand them, are afraid of them, and know their are consequences if you break them. In city schools some kids are so fxcked up they can't be controlled. Detention doesn't matter, suspension doesn't matter, failing doesn't matter. Kids who would normally do fine see this and are affected by it.
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I think the game was played at CA. So pretty obvious who the "head coach of a Big East school" is...
"Thaddeus Hall, a 6-5 senior guard from Jefferson high school (NY), scored a game-high 25 points and grabbed seven rebounds in front of the head coach of a Big East school to continue his dominance in the playoffs and garnish yet another Division-1 scholarship offer"
http://myemail.constantcontact.com/CHSAA-Semifinal-Recaps--NYer-voted-Big-East-Rookie-of-the-Year-----3-9-.html?soid=1011008065524&aid=ciEEJrQfoIc (http://myemail.constantcontact.com/CHSAA-Semifinal-Recaps--NYer-voted-Big-East-Rookie-of-the-Year-----3-9-.html?soid=1011008065524&aid=ciEEJrQfoIc)
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I'm a also a NYC teacher. Schools have rules. Some teachers and administrators do a better job of enforcing them than others.
Re: Academic performance
Generally speaking, when a kid does not do well in school, they also lack parental support. The disconnect between students' home and school environment is a factor nobody likes to discuss. It is not discussed because it requires people to examine themselves. It shifts the focus off the teachers and schools, and makes people do some soul searching.
Then there are extenuating circumstances, extenuating circumstances that kids like Thaddeus Hall had to overcome:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/from_homeless_right_full_track_hope_JJ46FZdkCpKZt5TaQRZiAM (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/from_homeless_right_full_track_hope_JJ46FZdkCpKZt5TaQRZiAM)
There are reasons for everything. I'm pulling for this kid to get into college.
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I'm a also a NYC teacher. Schools have rules. Some teachers and administrators do a better job of enforcing them than others.
Re: Academic performance
Generally speaking, when a kid does not do well in school, they also lack parental support. The disconnect between students' home and school environment is a factor nobody likes to discuss. It is not discussed because it requires people to examine themselves. It shifts the focus off the teachers and schools, and makes people do some soul searching.
A teacher blames student failures on parents while counseling others to examine their own behavior.
(http://www.xijindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/jack-xij-oughton-article-irony-meter-300x233.jpg)
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I'm a also a NYC teacher. Schools have rules. Some teachers and administrators do a better job of enforcing them than others.
Re: Academic performance
Generally speaking, when a kid does not do well in school, they also lack parental support. The disconnect between students' home and school environment is a factor nobody likes to discuss. It is not discussed because it requires people to examine themselves. It shifts the focus off the teachers and schools, and makes people do some soul searching.
A teacher blames student failures on parents while counseling others to examine their own behavior.
"While counseling others to examine their own behavior", I'm not sure where you're going with that statement so I am not addressing that in this post.
The realty in the school system is what one is not suppose to talk about anymore, the breakdown of the home, parent not parents, poverty, language barriers. A students school work when they are young, needs to be reinforced at home by the parent. If that parent doesn't have the educational ability to go over thrie homework and help their child, the odds are stacked against the child. Can the parent or parents afford a tutor? Is the parent working at night? The immigrant child is put into a classroom without even knowing the language, then goes home where the native language is spoken.
Every parent wants their child in a normal classroom setting, yet many do not belong their, quite often disrupting the other students work and creating an almost bizarre classroom environment. Many need to be on meds, parents refuse to allow this. I could go on and on but this is a Thaddeus thread. Every once in a while a kid can rise above this through his own self determination. Thaddeus sounds like one of those kids.
I have no reason to believe he won't qualify, if not this year then next year.
And no, I'm not a teacher, or administrator.
(http://www.xijindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/jack-xij-oughton-article-irony-meter-300x233.jpg)
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I'm a also a NYC teacher. Schools have rules. Some teachers and administrators do a better job of enforcing them than others.
Re: Academic performance
Generally speaking, when a kid does not do well in school, they also lack parental support. The disconnect between students' home and school environment is a factor nobody likes to discuss. It is not discussed because it requires people to examine themselves. It shifts the focus off the teachers and schools, and makes people do some soul searching.
A teacher blames student failures on parents while counseling others to examine their own behavior.
(http://www.xijindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/jack-xij-oughton-article-irony-meter-300x233.jpg)
Reread.
I never "blamed" anyone for anything. I shed light on a correlation that exists between poor student performance and parental support (or lack thereof). It exists. If you disagree, I'd like to invite you to attend parent-teacher conferences. They are coming up on March 20. You'll have to get here early, because we have to rope off the sidewalks. There is literally a line around the block. The PTA considered providing shuttle busses last year because there were so many parents in attendance. Make sure you bring comfortable shoes, because it is standing room only. :2funny:
Look forward to seeing you, and the rest of the community in attendance.
Regards,
Mr. iroNy
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The Irony I see is the parents blaming the schools and everyone/thing else for their child's failing, when the parent doesn't see to it that the child does their school work-that's on them-don't get me wrong-certainly there are poor teachers, schools and other elements that can come into play, but if a child comes to school unprepared-whatever the reason-the chances of success can be severely compromised. That's without even talking about those students that out in school with the parents defending their kids inappropriate behavior and assaulting teachers because the parent felt the teacher gave to much homework or wouldn't allow the "student" to do whatever he/she wanted to. Just as the politicians pass the buck, so too do many parents of failing students. It's about taking responsibility for your actions or inactions-that goes for teachers, administrators, parents, students and so on.
Of course I don't expect politicians to take responsibility for anything they do that goes wrong-but IMHO-the major blame or praise for how a child performs is with the parent(s)-they have the most to gain and lose -it is their child's life-step up to the plate -read to your child (if you can), if not put your child in one of the many free help programs available-nuture them with an eye on education, not on doing your own thing while Rome burns, and then blaming the firefighters for being late to the fire. The first 4-5 years of life set the stage for the rest of your life-some can climb out of the abyss, but many do not.
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While I hate the idea of SJU taking on a potential academic casualty, this kid's story is inspiring and I really wish him well. He'd benefit from the stability at SJU and staying close to his family. While it looks bad for our b-ball program to have kids not qualify through the NCAA, a student like Hall fits into a category of students that SJU (as an institution; forget basketball) goes after. It is part of our mission to serve the underserved. Our emphasis is on empowering students and outcomes measured at graduation. No shame in that. SJU has programs targeting and even recruiting kids who are at-risk academically in the hope of transforming them. I love that about our school. Of course we also recruit students who are academic stars coming out of high school, and that is great too.
Having said all of the above, maybe Hall will decide to go the JUCO route to get a fresh start with academics before taking it to the next level.
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I'm a also a NYC teacher. Schools have rules. Some teachers and administrators do a better job of enforcing them than others.
Re: Academic performance
Generally speaking, when a kid does not do well in school, they also lack parental support. The disconnect between students' home and school environment is a factor nobody likes to discuss. It is not discussed because it requires people to examine themselves. It shifts the focus off the teachers and schools, and makes people do some soul searching.
A teacher blames student failures on parents while counseling others to examine their own behavior.
(http://www.xijindustries.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/jack-xij-oughton-article-irony-meter-300x233.jpg)
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He is right...My daughter is a good student but if left to her own devices she will skate...I have pushed her along as much as possible and let her know what the expectations are...
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Not sure which job is worse, Public school teacher or NYPD. You guys are better men than I
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Not sure which job is worse, Public school teacher or NYPD. You guys are better men than I
Why? They pretty much deal with the same population? :-\
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Hall onto finals
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/batman_garden_robin_send_jefferson_l0LweCfBxfyE41YNaShKdM#ixzz1op6soOQK (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/batman_garden_robin_send_jefferson_l0LweCfBxfyE41YNaShKdM#ixzz1op6soOQK)
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"LML The St.Johns fans love me thanks for the support johnnies."
Thaddeus Hall facebook.
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Like this kid a lot. Really hope he can qualify.
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Like this kid a lot. Really hope he can qualify.
Same here IF he qualifies then I like our chances
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What's a reliable school he can take summer classes at though, as I'm assuming he'll probably need them?
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What's a reliable school he can take summer classes at though, as I'm assuming he'll probably need them?
rise
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:)
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i believe Hall is #11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ru05BpWRSuI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ru05BpWRSuI#)!
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Its is somewhat scary that SJU is even looking at kids that are possible academic risks for this class.
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Its is somewhat scary that SJU is even looking at kids that are possible academic risks for this class.
Preach
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Preach what..?
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He does not look 6'5!
But damn he does look like a player. And to think that Jefferson should have also had Jevon Thomas not hat roster.
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Preach what..?
He's agreeing with you.
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He does not look 6'5!
But damn he does look like a player. And to think that Jefferson should have also had Jevon Thomas not hat roster.
Not 6'5 but not 6'2 either. How bout that latteral quickness he shows right there marillac
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We have a lot of scholis Lavin can risk a couple. But we dont want to be in a position we were in this year.
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He does not look 6'5!
But damn he does look like a player. And to think that Jefferson should have also had Jevon Thomas not hat roster.
Not 6'5 but not 6'2 either. How bout that latteral quickness he shows right there marillac
Jevon on Jefferson????
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Preach what..?
I was in total agreement with what you said
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He does not look 6'5!
But damn he does look like a player. And to think that Jefferson should have also had Jevon Thomas not hat roster.
Not 6'5 but not 6'2 either. How bout that latteral quickness he shows right there marillac
Was discussing this same issue with another poster on here that insisted he's 6'5 but he sincerely 6'3.5 I've been around this kid since he was in bishop loughlin. Aside from the eligibility issue I sincerely don't think he's that good. Gotta keep in mind the level of comp in the psal recently, it's not like it used to be. I think he can progress into a suitable decorative piece in the future but I don't see this kid being all big east anytime soon. I actually like felix a bit more then him but don't think these signings are making moe wanna run back to school. Isaiah cousins is just as big as Hall more skilled and just as available plus I bet cimmino has him eligible why aren't we on him?
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He does not look 6'5!
But damn he does look like a player. And to think that Jefferson should have also had Jevon Thomas not hat roster.
That poster would be me :) and i saw him play Boys.. and he was taller than Truck who is 6'3.. but i think you are wrong about the level of comp .. because the winner of Boys vs Jeff can beat Rays.. in fact Boys beat Rays this year.... As for Cousins.. good player.. really good defender.. can't shoot at all.. better d than Thad.. but not close on offense.. Depends on what kind of player you like i guess.
Not 6'5 but not 6'2 either. How bout that latteral quickness he shows right there marillac
Was discussing this same issue with another poster on here that insisted he's 6'5 but he sincerely 6'3.5 I've been around this kid since he was in bishop loughlin. Aside from the eligibility issue I sincerely don't think he's that good. Gotta keep in mind the level of comp in the psal recently, it's not like it used to be. I think he can progress into a suitable decorative piece in the future but I don't see this kid being all big east anytime soon. I actually like felix a bit more then him but don't think these signings are making moe wanna run back to school. Isaiah cousins is just as big as Hall more skilled and just as available plus I bet cimmino has him eligible why aren't we on him?
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Love the passion and swagger he should in that clip. I would love to have him be part of this class if he qualifies. I know its a big if but unlike last year this isn't our main target and if he doesn't qualify we should be alright. As far as height i've never seen him in person but looks pretty big. I would guess 6'4
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“@NYPost_Brazille: St. John's Steve Lavin was at @JeffersonBBall practice today to watch Thaddeus Hall. They'll be back tomorrow, per Lawrence Pollard. #stjbb”
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“@NYPost_Brazille: St. John's has previously offered after the quarterfinals, but Lavin met with Hall to formally make the offer. #stjbb”
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After recently being offered by St. John's, 2012 Jefferson (NY) guard Thaddeus Hall was offered by Hofstra, reports @NYPost_Brazille.
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On Wednesday following a press conference at the Garden for teams competing in the PSAL city championship, Hall told the Daily News that he is leaning toward playing basketball for St. John’s, which recently offered him a scholarship.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/jefferson-senior-thaddeus-hall-leaning-playing-st-john-gains-eligibility-article-1.1039326 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/jefferson-senior-thaddeus-hall-leaning-playing-st-john-gains-eligibility-article-1.1039326)
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On Wednesday following a press conference at the Garden for teams competing in the PSAL city championship, Hall told the Daily News that he is leaning toward playing basketball for St. John’s, which recently offered him a scholarship.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/jefferson-senior-thaddeus-hall-leaning-playing-st-john-gains-eligibility-article-1.1039326 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/jefferson-senior-thaddeus-hall-leaning-playing-st-john-gains-eligibility-article-1.1039326)
i want morris and this is what i was pointing too when asking if morris was offered. we need at least two bigs but its looking like where gonna get 2 guards and 1 big
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This is just guessing on my part.
But staff must like Hall more than Galan and can afford to wait. If Hall qualifies this year and it takes until May or June to find out then great. He joins the team then and we forget about SG position in 13 and focus on the Lawrence, Domingo and others in that class. No impact on Morris at all IMO.
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This is just guessing on my part.
But staff must like Hall more than Galan and can afford to wait. If Hall qualifies this year and it takes until May or June to find out then great. He joins the team then and we forget about SG position in 13 and focus on the Lawrence, Domingo and others in that class. No impact on Morris at all IMO.
ok that makes sense but if thats the case do you believe this becomes a 6 scholarship class then? because it would have to be that if we want to get the 2 bigs that we desperately need and that dave alluded too.
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This is just guessing on my part.
But staff must like Hall more than Galan and can afford to wait. If Hall qualifies this year and it takes until May or June to find out then great. He joins the team then and we forget about SG position in 13 and focus on the Lawrence, Domingo and others in that class. No impact on Morris at all IMO.
ok that makes sense but if thats the case do you believe this becomes a 6 scholarship class then? because it would have to be that if we want to get the 2 bigs that we desperately need and that dave alluded too.
I don't know honestly. Just got all the faith in who the staff brings in. It might be 6 if Moe leaves because we have another to work with.
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This is just guessing on my part.
But staff must like Hall more than Galan and can afford to wait. If Hall qualifies this year and it takes until May or June to find out then great. He joins the team then and we forget about SG position in 13 and focus on the Lawrence, Domingo and others in that class. No impact on Morris at all IMO.
ok that makes sense but if thats the case do you believe this becomes a 6 scholarship class then? because it would have to be that if we want to get the 2 bigs that we desperately need and that dave alluded too.
I don't know honestly. Just got all the faith in who the staff brings in. It might be 6 if Moe leaves because we have another to work with.
knock on wood..
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This is just guessing on my part.
But staff must like Hall more than Galan and can afford to wait. If Hall qualifies this year and it takes until May or June to find out then great. He joins the team then and we forget about SG position in 13 and focus on the Lawrence, Domingo and others in that class. No impact on Morris at all IMO.
ok that makes sense but if thats the case do you believe this becomes a 6 scholarship class then? because it would have to be that if we want to get the 2 bigs that we desperately need and that dave alluded too.
I don't know honestly. Just got all the faith in who the staff brings in. It might be 6 if Moe leaves because we have another to work with.
knock on wood..
Maybe Hall would be redshirted if landed both Morris and Hall? But I guess that wouldn't address the scholarship issue.
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This is just guessing on my part.
But staff must like Hall more than Galan and can afford to wait. If Hall qualifies this year and it takes until May or June to find out then great. He joins the team then and we forget about SG position in 13 and focus on the Lawrence, Domingo and others in that class. No impact on Morris at all IMO.
ok that makes sense but if thats the case do you believe this becomes a 6 scholarship class then? because it would have to be that if we want to get the 2 bigs that we desperately need and that dave alluded too.
I don't know honestly. Just got all the faith in who the staff brings in. It might be 6 if Moe leaves because we have another to work with.
knock on wood..
Maybe Hall would be redshirted if landed both Morris and Hall? But I guess that wouldn't address the scholarship issue.
Hall doesn't impact Morris and he is almost certainly going to need another year and be reclassified to 2013.
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People making a Bit too much of Hall recruitment effecting Morris. For 2012 Morris is our primary target as a shooter. If Hall was eligible he'd certainly be another target. Right now there's no harm in showing Hall the love and offering. Should he qualify then we have a spot for him. If not, then he knows we're interested. No lose for SJU here. Let's just grab Morris and work on those 2 bigs.
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This is just guessing on my part.
But staff must like Hall more than Galan and can afford to wait. If Hall qualifies this year and it takes until May or June to find out then great. He joins the team then and we forget about SG position in 13 and focus on the Lawrence, Domingo and others in that class. No impact on Morris at all IMO.
On point Moose!
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PSAL championship game as been televised by MSG for many years but I don't see it listed on guide on TV screen. Anyone have any info as i would love to watch Hall.
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Thomas Jefferson's Thaddeus Hall and Boys & Girls' Leroy (Truck) Fludd have both guaranteed victory in Saturday's PSAL Class AA final.
“For whatever reasons, he’s been a Boys High killer since last year,” Jefferson coach Lawrence (Bud) Pollard said. “They seem to bring the best out of him.”
Fludd has enjoyed a remarkable season in his own right, leading the Kagnaroos back to the Garden as their only returning starter. He improved his jump shot over the summer and has remained a fierce rebounder and finisher, leading Brooklyn AA in points and rebounds during the regular season.
“He’s been there all year. I think he’s the Player of the Year in the PSAL,” Boys & Girls coach Ruth Lovelace said. “He doesn’t get credit, but also he’s guarding the best offensive player on the other team and he’s a constant on the boards. … He has the best all-around game [in the city].”
Hall feels he is in already in Fludd’s head, just by how much he is talking. Soft-spoken and somewhat reserved, Fludd has responded to Hall’s boasts, saying he can’t guard him and he should be Player of the Year no matter what happens.
“He’s doing it because I’m doing it,” Hall said. “That’s an advantage for me. He’s gonna try to guard me and he’s gonna get cooked again, like in the boroughs.”
Either way, history will be made at the Garden. Either Boys & Girls (23-6) will win its third straight title for the first time in program history or Jefferson will claim its first crown since 1954.
“We’ve come too far and been through too much to lose this game,” Hall said. “I know for a fact we’re gonna win this game.”
Make no mistake, the Hall and Fludd matchup will be the game inside the game, the two skilled wings matching up at both ends of the floor. But Boys High coach Lovelace said he won’t depend solely on Fludd to limit Hall. Rashad Andrews, a long 6-foot-4 forward, will see time on Hall, along with guards Tyliek Kimbrough and Wesley Myers.
“We’re not gonna change anything,” she said. “I’m not into gimmicky things. We have to play team defense. I think our defense last five, six games has really stepped up.”
The Kangaroos, indeed, have played exceptionally well on the defensive end in the postseason, holding stars such as Gompers’ Carlos Galan, South Shore’s Terrence Samuel and Shamiek Sheppard and Lincoln’s Isaiah Whitehead to well below their season averages.
Hall’s big performances, anyway, would’ve been moot had Boys High held onto large leads in the last two matchups, Lovelace said. Missed free throws and turnovers were the Kangaroos’ downfall.
“We didn’t close out those games,” she said.
Jefferson is a second half team. A large portion of its victories have been of the comeback variety. It was down eight points to Wings Academy in the second half in last Saturday’s PSAL Class AA semifinals and was four behind in the final minute before rallying for the dramatic victory, with Hall scoring five points in the final 7.7 seconds regulation.
Hall has been calling himself the best player in the city for a while, and he’s backed up that talk. He’s averaging over 27 points per game in six playoff contests, led Jefferson to its first Brooklyn AA and Brooklyn borough crowns and recently picked up scholarship offers from St. John’s, Maryland and Hofstra, among others.
“There’s not a player in the city better than him,” Jefferson coach Lawrence (Bud) Pollard said. “There’s nothing he can’t do right now.”
Fludd has the advantage of playing in the Garden before, each of the previous two years in fact, and knowing what to expect while this is a completely new experience for Hall
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/hall_fludd_party_head_to_head_in_SVfUkz5tr7Rme426D6eQeM#ixzz1pNQhBtx3 (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/hall_fludd_party_head_to_head_in_SVfUkz5tr7Rme426D6eQeM#ixzz1pNQhBtx3)
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PSAL championship game as been televised by MSG for many years but I don't see it listed on guide on TV screen. Anyone have any info as i would love to watch Hall.
MSG varsity
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What part of Thaddeus Hall not being NCAA eligible don't you understand?
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What part of Thaddeus Hall not being NCAA eligible don't you understand?
Who are you directing this question to ?
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What part of Thaddeus Hall not being NCAA eligible don't you understand?
How can he not be eligible while he is still taking high school courses? Perhaps he can finish his core classes and get a qualifying SAT score. KInd of premature to say that.
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What part of Thaddeus Hall not being NCAA eligible don't you understand?
Idiotic comment. Everyone knows his academic challenges and possibility SJU is willing to have him prep for a year.
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Boys beats Jefferson by 4 to win 3rd straight. Hall with a quiet 17. Replay is on tomorrow morning on MSG varsity if anyone is interested in watching.
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Boys beats Jefferson by 4 to win 3rd straight. Hall with a quiet 17. Replay is on tomorrow morning on MSG varsity if anyone is interested in watching.
How do you think Hall looked overall? Was truck guarding him?
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Boys beats Jefferson by 4 to win 3rd straight. Hall with a quiet 17. Replay is on tomorrow morning on MSG varsity if anyone is interested in watching.
How do you think Hall looked overall? Was truck guarding him?
I didn't see the game because I couldn't get my MSG varsity to stream. Instead I followed it through a play by play chat room . Apparently Fludd and Hall were guarding each other some of the time . Both had quiet 17 points. Rashard Andrews had like 25. 5for 5 from downtown .
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Boys beats Jefferson by 4 to win 3rd straight. Hall with a quiet 17. Replay is on tomorrow morning on MSG varsity if anyone is interested in watching.
How do you think Hall looked overall? Was truck guarding him?
I didn't see the game because I couldn't get my MSG varsity to stream. Instead I followed it through a play by play chat room . Apparently Fludd and Hall were guarding each other some of the time . Both had quiet 17 points. Rashard Andrews had like 25. 5for 5 from downtown .
Damn when you can find a chatroom for that game we know you are a hardcore hoops fan ( we knew anyway but thats impressive ).
Was Baldi on that board also promoting Iona? lol
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Boys beats Jefferson by 4 to win 3rd straight. Hall with a quiet 17. Replay is on tomorrow morning on MSG varsity if anyone is interested in watching.
How do you think Hall looked overall? Was truck guarding him?
I didn't see the game because I couldn't get my MSG varsity to stream. Instead I followed it through a play by play chat room . Apparently Fludd and Hall were guarding each other some of the time . Both had quiet 17 points. Rashard Andrews had like 25. 5for 5 from downtown .
Damn when you can find a chatroom for that game we know you are a hardcore hoops fan ( we knew anyway but thats impressive ).
Was Baldi on that board also promoting Iona? lol
Lol no sign of Baldi.. I woke up late or I would have went to the garden .. I had to find a way to follow this game. Next up for Boys and Girls.. The CHSAA champ St Raymond's . I'm a Bronx guy .. So I'm going for Ray's.. but Boys can win this game.
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Boys beats Jefferson by 4 to win 3rd straight. Hall with a quiet 17. Replay is on tomorrow morning on MSG varsity if anyone is interested in watching.
How do you think Hall looked overall? Was truck guarding him?
I didn't see the game because I couldn't get my MSG varsity to stream. Instead I followed it through a play by play chat room . Apparently Fludd and Hall were guarding each other some of the time . Both had quiet 17 points. Rashard Andrews had like 25. 5for 5 from downtown .
Damn when you can find a chatroom for that game we know you are a hardcore hoops fan ( we knew anyway but thats impressive ).
Was Baldi on that board also promoting Iona? lol
Lol no sign of Baldi.. I woke up late or I would have went to the garden .. I had to find a way to follow this game. Next up for Boys and Girls.. The CHSAA champ St Raymond's . I'm a Bronx guy .. So I'm going for Ray's.. but Boys can win this game.
Hell if St Johns does want him,Would love Fludd up in New Rochelle. Happy any Iona recruits in those games?
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/thaddeus-hall-scores-17-points-psal-class-aa-title-game-orange-wave-beaten-boys-girls-championship-article-1.1041387 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/thaddeus-hall-scores-17-points-psal-class-aa-title-game-orange-wave-beaten-boys-girls-championship-article-1.1041387)
“I feel we got cheated,” said Hall, who was sobbing after the game. “We weren’t getting the calls.”
This may not be the last time Hall plays in the Garden, however. His recruiting process is heating up, and Hall has said he is leaning toward committing to St. John’s.
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Hall playing right now on MSG varsity. I thought it started at 10. Still a half left if you want to check it out .
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Hall playing right now on MSG varsity. I thought it started at 10. Still a half left if you want to check it out .
What channel?
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Boys beats Jefferson by 4 to win 3rd straight. Hall with a quiet 17. Replay is on tomorrow morning on MSG varsity if anyone is interested in watching.
How do you think Hall looked overall? Was truck guarding him?
I didn't see the game because I couldn't get my MSG varsity to stream. Instead I followed it through a play by play chat room . Apparently Fludd and Hall were guarding each other some of the time . Both had quiet 17 points. Rashard Andrews had like 25. 5for 5 from downtown .
Damn when you can find a chatroom for that game we know you are a hardcore hoops fan ( we knew anyway but thats impressive ).
Was Baldi on that board also promoting Iona? lol
Lol no sign of Baldi.. I woke up late or I would have went to the garden .. I had to find a way to follow this game. Next up for Boys and Girls.. The CHSAA champ St Raymond's . I'm a Bronx guy .. So I'm going for Ray's.. but Boys can win this game.
Hell if St Johns does want him,Would love Fludd up in New Rochelle. Happy any Iona recruits in those games?
Fludd would be tremendous for Iona .. I like Rashard Andrews a lot and he is a Adelphi commit ( what a steal ). Jaquan Lynch is a junior and he could be a Iona type kid if he continues to get better.
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Hall playing right now on MSG varsity. I thought it started at 10. Still a half left if you want to check it out .
Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
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Hall playing right now on MSG varsity. I thought it started at 10. Still a half left if you want to check it out .
What channel?
MSG varsity.
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Thaddeus Hall:
TCU JUST OFFER ME #LETGOO KEEP THEM COMING BIG 12
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
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Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
More schools? Really?
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
I bet it is that way in every major inner city across america
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Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
More schools? Really?
More schools as schools close and are replaced by 2 -3 charter schools that function out of the same building. Not sure that the amount of talent is the same, but definitely more schools. Has more to do with kids going to prep schools and other schools in the surrounding area.
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Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
More schools? Really?
More schools as schools close and are replaced by 2 -3 charter schools that function out of the same building. Not sure that the amount of talent is the same, but definitely more schools. Has more to do with kids going to prep schools and other schools in the surrounding area.
But do these charter schools have teams?
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Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
More schools? Really?
More schools as schools close and are replaced by 2 -3 charter schools that function out of the same building. Not sure that the amount of talent is the same, but definitely more schools. Has more to do with kids going to prep schools and other schools in the surrounding area.
But do these charter schools have teams?
These charter schools that are opening aren't harboring any major talent. The talent continues to go to the traditional powerhouses. (Lincoln , Cardozo , boys and girls etc) . I'll use moe harkless as an example a kid who never had academic issues but left a psal program in forest hills to go to south kent to prepare him self for high level basketball because the talent in the psal is not good enough to prepare anyone for high level division 1 basketball. And for that matter NYC as a whole, and that's why u see mater dei beating Christ the king senseless on national television. That would have never happened a decade ago.
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Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
More schools? Really?
More schools as schools close and are replaced by 2 -3 charter schools that function out of the same building. Not sure that the amount of talent is the same, but definitely more schools. Has more to do with kids going to prep schools and other schools in the surrounding area.
But do these charter schools have teams?
These charter schools that are opening aren't harboring any major talent. The talent continues to go to the traditional powerhouses. (Lincoln , Cardozo , boys and girls etc) . I'll use moe harkless as an example a kid who never had academic issues but left a psal program in forest hills to go to south kent to prepare him self for high level basketball because the talent in the psal is not good enough to prepare anyone for high level division 1 basketball. And for that matter NYC as a whole, and that's why u see mater dei beating Christ the king senseless on national television. That would have never happened a decade ago.
I love a little history lesson. When did NEPSAC schools start nabbing all the NYC talent? When did the mass exodus of NYC begin and what caused it?
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
hes 6'7 225. hes a manchild. his body of work on the aau circuit was excellent 1st team all tourney in almost every tournament and a couple mvp's playing with new heights. he played a strong non-conference schedule this year schools including boys and girls and against Long island lutheran i saw him in person give the kid kenton facey 33 and 20 boards. he did that while being tremendously out of shape. the kids potential is sky high hes out of shape and isnt diciplined, now if he adds that hes gonna be special. whitehead is number 2 no doubt about it but he hasnt begun to dominate games. Jordan makes his presence felt whenever hes on the court no matter who he plays.
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
hes 6'7 225. hes a manchild. his body of work on the aau circuit was excellent 1st team all tourney in almost every tournament and a couple mvp's playing with new heights. he played a strong non-conference schedule this year schools including boys and girls and against Long island lutheran i saw him in person give the kid kenton facey 33 and 20 boards. he did that while being tremendously out of shape. the kids potential is sky high hes out of shape and isnt diciplined, now if he adds that hes gonna be special. whitehead is number 2 no doubt about it but he hasnt begun to dominate games. Jordan makes his presence felt whenever hes on the court no matter who he plays.
also to add to the reason on why he plays in the b division is because he has a learning deficit which dosent make him a candidate for a traditional public school. so he goes to pathways to get the extra attention he needs in the classroom
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I love a little history lesson. When did NEPSAC schools start nabbing all the NYC talent? When did the mass exodus of NYC begin and what caused it?
Very good questions.
I would like to have Hall on the team.
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Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
More schools? Really?
More schools as schools close and are replaced by 2 -3 charter schools that function out of the same building. Not sure that the amount of talent is the same, but definitely more schools. Has more to do with kids going to prep schools and other schools in the surrounding area.
But do these charter schools have teams?
These charter schools that are opening aren't harboring any major talent. The talent continues to go to the traditional powerhouses. (Lincoln , Cardozo , boys and girls etc) . I'll use moe harkless as an example a kid who never had academic issues but left a psal program in forest hills to go to south kent to prepare him self for high level basketball because the talent in the psal is not good enough to prepare anyone for high level division 1 basketball. And for that matter NYC as a whole, and that's why u see mater dei beating Christ the king senseless on national television. That would have never happened a decade ago.
I love a little history lesson. When did NEPSAC schools start nabbing all the NYC talent? When did the mass exodus of NYC begin and what caused it?
great question because guys like sebastian telfair, showtime, and rafer alston would have never in a million years elected to leave thier beloved schools for some factory in the middle of a burb. i think this saga started as the AAU circuit became more prevalent, when the highschool coaches voices where being overshadowed by the aau coaches advice. The decline or lack of competition in nyc im sure had a bit to do with it along with exposure benifits but im sure not as much as having free room and board, free sneakers, playing a national schedule and a little pocket money from your new coach.
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
hes 6'7 225. hes a manchild. his body of work on the aau circuit was excellent 1st team all tourney in almost every tournament and a couple mvp's playing with new heights. he played a strong non-conference schedule this year schools including boys and girls and against Long island lutheran i saw him in person give the kid kenton facey 33 and 20 boards. he did that while being tremendously out of shape. the kids potential is sky high hes out of shape and isnt diciplined, now if he adds that hes gonna be special. whitehead is number 2 no doubt about it but he hasnt begun to dominate games. Jordan makes his presence felt whenever hes on the court no matter who he plays.
I did say I was a fan... Giving that to Kenton isn't as impressive as facing top comp every game. After all Facey ( who i like as well) is brand new to basketball and 200lbs on a day after he ate Burger king 12 times lol.
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If Hasaan can get back for AAU.. I believe he is gonna run with New Heights as well.. That's gonna be a good team . I want to see what guards are gonna run with them this season .
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
hes 6'7 225. hes a manchild. his body of work on the aau circuit was excellent 1st team all tourney in almost every tournament and a couple mvp's playing with new heights. he played a strong non-conference schedule this year schools including boys and girls and against Long island lutheran i saw him in person give the kid kenton facey 33 and 20 boards. he did that while being tremendously out of shape. the kids potential is sky high hes out of shape and isnt diciplined, now if he adds that hes gonna be special. whitehead is number 2 no doubt about it but he hasnt begun to dominate games. Jordan makes his presence felt whenever hes on the court no matter who he plays.
I did say I was a fan... Giving that to Kenton isn't as impressive as facing top comp every game. After all Facey ( who i like as well) is brand new to basketball and 200lbs on a day after he ate Burger king 12 times lol.
lol yea man it was ugly he even had a front court mate that was bigger than him but none of them could handle jordan. ill tell you another kid to watch out for is taquan givens from mott haven highschool hes a sophomore who runs with the gauchos in the summer. he has iona written all over him hes got sum upside.
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but as many negatives prep scool has in the culture of nyc basketball it has its positives. guys like melvin johnson who've been really good but undervalued would have never found them self on every top 100 list at this point if it wasnt for him leaving the city and electing to go to st benidicts prep
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
hes 6'7 225. hes a manchild. his body of work on the aau circuit was excellent 1st team all tourney in almost every tournament and a couple mvp's playing with new heights. he played a strong non-conference schedule this year schools including boys and girls and against Long island lutheran i saw him in person give the kid kenton facey 33 and 20 boards. he did that while being tremendously out of shape. the kids potential is sky high hes out of shape and isnt diciplined, now if he adds that hes gonna be special. whitehead is number 2 no doubt about it but he hasnt begun to dominate games. Jordan makes his presence felt whenever hes on the court no matter who he plays.
I did say I was a fan... Giving that to Kenton isn't as impressive as facing top comp every game. After all Facey ( who i like as well) is brand new to basketball and 200lbs on a day after he ate Burger king 12 times lol.
lol yea man it was ugly he even had a front court mate that was bigger than him but none of them could handle jordan. ill tell you another kid to watch out for is taquan givens from mott haven highschool hes a sophomore who runs with the gauchos in the summer. he has iona written all over him hes got sum upside.
I watched Givens at 2am play Bklyn colegiate on MSG varsity ( yea I don't sleep). He didn't do much.. But u can tell he is a ball player.
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
hes 6'7 225. hes a manchild. his body of work on the aau circuit was excellent 1st team all tourney in almost every tournament and a couple mvp's playing with new heights. he played a strong non-conference schedule this year schools including boys and girls and against Long island lutheran i saw him in person give the kid kenton facey 33 and 20 boards. he did that while being tremendously out of shape. the kids potential is sky high hes out of shape and isnt diciplined, now if he adds that hes gonna be special. whitehead is number 2 no doubt about it but he hasnt begun to dominate games. Jordan makes his presence felt whenever hes on the court no matter who he plays.
I did say I was a fan... Giving that to Kenton isn't as impressive as facing top comp every game. After all Facey ( who i like as well) is brand new to basketball and 200lbs on a day after he ate Burger king 12 times lol.
lol yea man it was ugly he even had a front court mate that was bigger than him but none of them could handle jordan. ill tell you another kid to watch out for is taquan givens from mott haven highschool hes a sophomore who runs with the gauchos in the summer. he has iona written all over him hes got sum upside.
I watched Givens at 2am play Bklyn colegiate on MSG varsity ( yea I don't sleep). He didn't do much.. But u can tell he is a ball player.
lol how did you like the kid ervin mitchell?
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Would like to get his commitment and see if he can qualify, it is nice to pluck the best city kid each year despite the fact that the PSAL is not what it was 10-20 years ago
I don't think the talent level in the PSAL is any different but the good players in thePSAL just don't stay in the schools anymore because so many of them are academic disasters after their Sophomore year of school.
Also, the talent is spread out much more thinly in the PSAL then it used to be. There are probably twice as many high schools as there were 20 years ago.
Best player by far in the psal is Jordan Washington. It's not even close. After that I see a bunch of low to mid -major players and a few of them who could eventually be marginal players in the big east. And although there are more schools the power houses are still the power houses just with less talent than there used to having.
Chile,, While I am a fan of Jordan's game.. He plays nobody in the Psal B division.. Pretty bold statement to say he is the best in Psal when players like Whitehead play better comp on a game to game basis.
hes 6'7 225. hes a manchild. his body of work on the aau circuit was excellent 1st team all tourney in almost every tournament and a couple mvp's playing with new heights. he played a strong non-conference schedule this year schools including boys and girls and against Long island lutheran i saw him in person give the kid kenton facey 33 and 20 boards. he did that while being tremendously out of shape. the kids potential is sky high hes out of shape and isnt diciplined, now if he adds that hes gonna be special. whitehead is number 2 no doubt about it but he hasnt begun to dominate games. Jordan makes his presence felt whenever hes on the court no matter who he plays.
I did say I was a fan... Giving that to Kenton isn't as impressive as facing top comp every game. After all Facey ( who i like as well) is brand new to basketball and 200lbs on a day after he ate Burger king 12 times lol.
lol yea man it was ugly he even had a front court mate that was bigger than him but none of them could handle jordan. ill tell you another kid to watch out for is taquan givens from mott haven highschool hes a sophomore who runs with the gauchos in the summer. he has iona written all over him hes got sum upside.
I watched Givens at 2am play Bklyn colegiate on MSG varsity ( yea I don't sleep). He didn't do much.. But u can tell he is a ball player.
lol how did you like the kid ervin mitchell?
I liked him. He was the leading scorer for BK.. Tough to tell because both teams were ehhh to me. But not bad.. He is another kid who is in desperate need for a protein shake lol
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I don't have access, but apparently Thaddeus indicated his college choice.
NYCHoops Jefferson wing Thaddeus Hall confesses college choice to kids. goo.gl/ogUB0 #boyshoops #ncaam #stjbb #rivals #psal
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I don't have access, but apparently Thaddeus indicated his college choice.
NYCHoops Jefferson wing Thaddeus Hall confesses college choice to kids. goo.gl/ogUB0 #boyshoops #ncaam #stjbb #rivals #psal
Huh?
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Zach Braziller of the NY Post tweeted a response...supposedly Thaddeus told some kids at at tournament yesterday that he was going to St. John's.
@NYPost_Brazille - @frankthegolfgod no scoop he told a few kids in passing he "probably go to st john's" when they asked where he was going to college
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If this is to be believed, it's good news,.... but does that mean 2012 or 2013??
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Depends on his academics, IMO 2013 likely. We'll see.
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Depends on his academics, IMO 2013 likely. We'll see.
if its 2013 that's even better. It means that we spread out our prospects.
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
I think he's one of those kids that stretch the truth a bit about his recruitment and his list of suitors ala Isaiah Lewis. I find it very hard to believe on the eve of frank Martin getting ready to jump ship, him or any of his assistants would be handing out schollys
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
I think he's one of those kids that stretch the truth a bit about his recruitment and his list of suitors ala Isaiah Lewis. I find it very hard to believe on the eve of frank Martin getting ready to jump ship, him or any of his assistants would be handing out schollys
Difference between him and Lewis is at least Hall is picking 'regular' schools. Lewis was naming Kentucky, Kansas, Florida LOL
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
I think he's one of those kids that stretch the truth a bit about his recruitment and his list of suitors ala Isaiah Lewis. I find it very hard to believe on the eve of frank Martin getting ready to jump ship, him or any of his assistants would be handing out schollys
Difference between him and Lewis is at least Hall is picking 'regular' schools. Lewis was naming Kentucky, Kansas, Florida LOL
LOL!!! Please don't remind me. Ah man kids these days.
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
I think he's one of those kids that stretch the truth a bit about his recruitment and his list of suitors ala Isaiah Lewis. I find it very hard to believe on the eve of frank Martin getting ready to jump ship, him or any of his assistants would be handing out schollys
Difference between him and Lewis is at least Hall is picking 'regular' schools. Lewis was naming Kentucky, Kansas, Florida LOL
LOL!!! Please don't remind me. Ah man kids these days.
Where you think Lewis ends up next year?
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
I think he's one of those kids that stretch the truth a bit about his recruitment and his list of suitors ala Isaiah Lewis. I find it very hard to believe on the eve of frank Martin getting ready to jump ship, him or any of his assistants would be handing out schollys
Difference between him and Lewis is at least Hall is picking 'regular' schools. Lewis was naming Kentucky, Kansas, Florida LOL
LOL!!! Please don't remind me. Ah man kids these days.
Where you think Lewis ends up next year?
Beats me, has to be either public school or prep so he can be eligible and I think it's in his best interest to attend public so his true mid major talent won't be exposed. Lincoln? Dozo?
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
Is South Carolina really a better job these days than Kansas St?
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
I think he's one of those kids that stretch the truth a bit about his recruitment and his list of suitors ala Isaiah Lewis. I find it very hard to believe on the eve of frank Martin getting ready to jump ship, him or any of his assistants would be handing out schollys
Difference between him and Lewis is at least Hall is picking 'regular' schools. Lewis was naming Kentucky, Kansas, Florida LOL
LOL!!! Please don't remind me. Ah man kids these days.
Where you think Lewis ends up next year?
Beats me, has to be either public school or prep so he can be eligible and I think it's in his best interest to attend public so his true mid major talent won't be exposed. Lincoln? Dozo?
My bad I blanked and thought he was 2012 kid.
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Poor Omari
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Poor Omari
who? ;)
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Thaddeus Hall
NEW COLLEGE OFFER ON MY BDAY K-STATE #KEEPTHEMCOMING
Does he know Martin is leaving? haha
Is South Carolina really a better job these days than Kansas St?
It is if u may be runnin' from the 2A!
16-the clash-i fought the law live at shea stadium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdf3rr0bnDI#)
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Don't be surprised if Grasso steals Hall.
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Don't be surprised if Grasso steals Hall.
Sorry, but I'd be shocked.
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Don't be surprised if Grasso steals Hall.
Good he isn't a BE player
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Don't be surprised if Grasso steals Hall.
Good he isn't a BE player
Have you seen him play?
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Any word on whether Hall has a chance to qualify in '12? Or is it pretty much set in stone he needs to prep for a year?
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Don't be surprised if Grasso steals Hall.
Good he isn't a BE player
Lavin offers and you say he is not even a BE player?
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Any word on whether Hall has a chance to qualify in '12? Or is it pretty much set in stone he needs to prep for a year?
Last I read its dependent on how high he can get his grades, not test score. So that doesn't sound like an answer until June.
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Don't be surprised if Grasso steals Hall.
Good he isn't a BE player
Have you seen him play?
I confused Fludd and Hall. I haven't seen Hall play
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Don't be surprised if Grasso steals Hall.
Good he isn't a BE player
Have you seen him play?
I confused Fludd and Hall. I haven't seen Hall play
I agree with you about Truck. I like him.. Just not for us .
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Caught up with Jefferson's Thaddeus Hall tonight at the Mayor's Cup. He said he has no favorites, despite reports to the contrary #boyshoops”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Hall said he will take visits in April, pick school late in the month. St. John's, Maryland, Fordham, Hofstra, South Carolina involved, tcu”
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http://mobile.twitter.com/nypost_brazille (http://mobile.twitter.com/nypost_brazille)
Brazille has a few tweets regarding Hall. No favorites, and will take his visits this month and decide towards the end of the month. Also he answered a tweet regarding eligibility by saying he is hearing he will be eligible but we will see.
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Thaddeus Hall 2011-2012 Highlight Reel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLsYb6Lxkms#ws)
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I still want him.
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Second time I have heard JUCO likely.
“@TheRecruitScoop: Sources say South Carolina's Frank Martin will see 2012 Jefferson (NY) guard Thadeus Hall on Thursday. JUCO is a probable option for him.”
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Second time I have heard JUCO likely.
“@TheRecruitScoop: Sources say South Carolina's Frank Martin will see 2012 Jefferson (NY) guard Thadeus Hall on Thursday. JUCO is a probable option for him.”
Why would he JUCO and lose a year of eligibility? Aren't there preps that would want Hall?
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I'm gonna take a stab at answering my own question; but does anyone know if he could be eligible second semester?
If it's grades, and not test score, that is holding him back how would that be affected post-hs ? Does getting a B in a JUCO class mean the same thing as a HS course?
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I'm gonna take a stab at answering my own question; but does anyone know if he could be eligible second semester?
If it's grades, and not test score, that is holding him back how would that be affected post-hs ? Does getting a B in a JUCO class mean the same thing as a HS course?
I think if you dont qualify in by June graduation, you can always take a course over in summer or fall (Garret & many others)
to add a course that didnt qualify or try to get a higher grade in a course that dragged your GPA down.
But no- I doubt you can use a JUCO course to effect increasing your HS GPA.
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I'm gonna take a stab at answering my own question; but does anyone know if he could be eligible second semester?
If it's grades, and not test score, that is holding him back how would that be affected post-hs ? Does getting a B in a JUCO class mean the same thing as a HS course?
I think if you dont qualify in by June graduation, you can always take a course over in summer or fall (Garret & many others)
to add a course that didnt qualify or try to get a higher grade in a course that dragged your GPA down.
But no- I doubt you can use a JUCO course to effect increasing your HS GPA.
So then how does someone who was Inelidgible after HS, go to a Juco and become elidigible? If you do a full year do they look at your college gpa then?
Just seems odd to me that Hall would want to go the Juco route rather than prep for a year.
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Hall and Fludd playing now on MSG varsity . Repeat of the Mayor cup.
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Hall and Fludd playing now on MSG varsity . Repeat of the Mayor cup.
1030 in the morning. Ratings machine.
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Hall and Fludd playing now on MSG varsity . Repeat of the Mayor cup.
1030 in the morning. Ratings machine.
The game is as good as the ratings . :)
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This guy Thomas is terrific. Why aren't we looking at him?
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This guy Thomas is terrific. Why aren't we looking at him?
Who?
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This guy Thomas is terrific. Why aren't we looking at him?
Romain Thomas is not a big east player.
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This guy Thomas is terrific. Why aren't we looking at him?
Better question would be why aren't any big time schools looking at him. Usually that answers all the questions you have.
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This guy Thomas is terrific. Why aren't we looking at him?
Romain Thomas is not a big east player.
Looked like one.
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This guy Thomas is terrific. Why aren't we looking at him?
Romain Thomas is not a big east player.
Looked like one.
Problem with a player like Romain is he has no perimeter skills.. He is the tallest kid at Evander and plays the 5 at all times.. A game like the Mayor's cup is its like an all star game .. Plenty of points and not a lot of defense.
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NYPost_Brazille Dayton will be in to see Hall tomorrow as will South Carolina and new coach Frank martin. #boyshoops
about 3 hours ago
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NYPost_Brazille Dayton has offered Jefferson standout Thaddeus Hall, joining long list that includes St. John's, Maryland, South Carolina .
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HEAD COACH FRANK MARTIN AND DAYTON HEAD COACHES COMING TO SEE ME WORK OUT TOMORROW #SEC/#A-10
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he's bigging him up . almost like congrats. " lets eat bro" is what hes saying.
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he's bigging him up . almost like congrats. " lets eat bro" is what hes saying.
Thanks Chilleb!
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he's bigging him up . almost like congrats. " lets eat bro" is what hes saying.
Thanks Chilleb!
no doubt!
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Also, Jefferson's Thaddeus Hall will visit South Carolina next weekend. New head coach Frank Martin was in to see him today. #boyshoops”
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Recruiting update on Hall, Obekpa, Sanchez. Also say Nolan recruitment real.
“@ECoastBias: St. John's recruiting update - Phillip Nolan, Thaddeus Hall, more #stjbb http://t.co/fEK88Tkx (http://t.co/fEK88Tkx)”
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Article on SJ recruiting in Rumble in the garden. Nothing new. But it is interestind to note that Hall says he will qualify.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Miami will be in to see Jefferson's Thaddeus Hall this week. #boyshoops”
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - lets move away from recruiting any academic risks after last years debacle.
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - lets move away from recruiting any academic risks after last years debacle.
So you don't want to take a risk on high reward guy like Chandler then?
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The problem with grades is who to believe. As we know, recruits tend to expand the number and names of colleges actually recruiting them. They also tend to do the same with how they are doing in the class room. We seem to have a mixed bag this season in regards to recruits having academic issues.
If Coach knew exactly which recruits would commit to us early in the process, he probably would avoid going after recruits with academic issues. While I believe he has more inside information than we do, there are still some recruits on the fence. So if Carlos goes to SC and we still need a SG, Thaddeus might be in Coach's sights, questionable grades and all.
Lets see who Coach reels in this week. Academics, hopefully, might not be an issue this year.
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The problem with grades is who to believe. As we know, recruits tend to expand the number and names of colleges actually recruiting them. They also tend to do the same with how they are doing in the class room. We seem to have a mixed bag this season in regards to recruits having academic issues.
If Coach knew exactly which recruits would commit to us early in the process, he probably would avoid going after recruits with academic issues. While I believe he has more inside information than we do, there are still some recruits on the fence. So if Carlos goes to SC and we still need a SG, Thaddeus might be in Coach's sights, questionable grades and all.
Lets see who Coach reels in this week. Academics, hopefully, might not be an issue this year.
We don't NEED Thaddeus Hall right now IMO. We can afford to take a risk on him and either have him make it and redshirt or not make it and prep because right now we have a surplus of guards who will be assuming most of the time at the 1, 2 and 3 positions.
For PMG as much as academic risks suck, I think we are better able to take that chance this year.
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How can we say that we can take risks on academic problems when we still have to add one eligible big man?
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How can we say that we can take risks on academic problems when we still have to add one eligible big man?
Because its going to happen. In addition to another. And depending on what you consider a big man maybe at third.
Ok?
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How can we say that we can take risks on academic problems when we still have to add one eligible big man?
Because its going to happen. In addition to another. And depending on what you consider a big man maybe at third.
Ok?
Well then, so much for a lesson well learned.
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How can we say that we can take risks on academic problems when we still have to add one eligible big man?
Because its going to happen. In addition to another. And depending on what you consider a big man maybe at third.
Ok?
Well then, so much for a lesson well learned.
I think you misunderstood my post. You asked about adding and eligible big man. I'm saying we get 2. And possibly a 3rd depending on what/who you consider a big man.
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How can we say that we can take risks on academic problems when we still have to add one eligible big man?
Because its going to happen. In addition to another. And depending on what you consider a big man maybe at third.
Ok?
Well then, so much for a lesson well learned.
I think you misunderstood my post. You asked about adding and eligible big man. I'm saying we get 2. And possibly a 3rd depending on what/who you consider a big man.
PC's finest: Big Mooose
I can't wait to see the class Lav brings in.
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Sorry Moose. Gotchya.
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Sorry Moose. Gotchya.
No worries as I struggle to express my points clearly sometimes.
So therefore with those pieces falling into place a risk on a local kid (since most of this board thinks we ignore locals) aint such a bad thing IMO.
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Sorry Moose. Gotchya.
No worries as I struggle to express my points clearly sometimes.
So therefore with those pieces falling into place a risk on a local kid (since most of this board thinks we ignore locals) aint such a bad thing IMO.
Precisely Moose!
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So you don't want to take a risk on high reward guy like Chandler then?
Chandler is out of basketball for a year and I am sure SJU has had a very good opportunity to evaluate his academics and make an informed decision about offering Chandler. The risk/reward with Chandler is his character and if the staff makes the decision to offer the kid, you have to trust their judgement on that front.
With Hall, there are massive question marks about him making the grade already. If you offer him and then he doesn't get thru Clearinghouse for September, we look like idiots... AGAIN.
The program cut ties with Jevon because they knew he would not make the grades and they knew full well Darrick Wood wouldn't either.
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So you don't want to take a risk on high reward guy like Chandler then?
Chandler is out of basketball for a year and I am sure SJU has had a very good opportunity to evaluate his academics and make an informed decision about offering Chandler. The risk/reward with Chandler is his character and if the staff makes the decision to offer the kid, you have to trust their judgement on that front.
With Hall, there are massive question marks about him making the grade already. If you offer him and then he doesn't get thru Clearinghouse for September, we look like idiots... AGAIN.
The program cut ties with Jevon because they knew he would not make the grades and they knew full well Darrick Wood wouldn't either.
I understand your point Pat but respectfully disagree. The ONLY reason it was such a big issue last year is you were recruiting an entire starting five so losing out was REALLY losing out. Next year's starters are all qualified at the 1 through 4 and four legitimate players on the bench. The staff needs to recruit a guaranteed qualifier at the 5 and then you have a 9 man rotation and can take a risk or two as you fill the balance of the roster, provided that risk comes with more than suitable potential reward. Look at Kansas's situation last year with McLemore and Traylor. Now of course with the big 12 rules they get to keep their partial qualifiers so its a little different but in the short term for 1 year they still took a similar gamble because they could based upon their depth and what the other options were that were available. If Dwight, DJ and both JB's were coming back then the Jakarr, Amir, Norvel situation would have been a non-event.
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So you don't want to take a risk on high reward guy like Chandler then?
Chandler is out of basketball for a year and I am sure SJU has had a very good opportunity to evaluate his academics and make an informed decision about offering Chandler. The risk/reward with Chandler is his character and if the staff makes the decision to offer the kid, you have to trust their judgement on that front.
With Hall, there are massive question marks about him making the grade already. If you offer him and then he doesn't get thru Clearinghouse for September, we look like idiots... AGAIN.
The program cut ties with Jevon because they knew he would not make the grades and they knew full well Darrick Wood wouldn't either.
We have already offered him and so have others. You don't get it. You keep reliving the Sampson, Garrett, Pelle scenario. It is not the same. And trust me there are others. We offered as did UCLA and Arizona St Remy Barry in 2010 knowing full well he was a ??? mark to qualify. So did the other two schools. It did not hurt their reputation the least bit when he failed nor did it hurt SJU.
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South Carolina bound
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South Carolina bound
Makes sense. Good for him. He will do well.
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
Combo of a lot of things. Like I said in other thread he would be further down the depth chart here. He's used to being Mr. PSAL. Combine that with sketchy academics, other targets, and you have Frank Martin who loves his NY kids.
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
This recruiting stuff is starting to read like a game of Clue Colonel Mustard
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
This recruiting stuff is starting to read like a game of Clue Colonel Mustard
Or like a game of dodgeball, players getting knocked off left and right
But if youre a guard, why the hell would you come to St Johns now? Harrison is a stud, he'll play majority of minutes. And when he needs a rest, Greene will be there with Branch. With Felix scrapping for minutes
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Carlos Morris ?
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
This recruiting stuff is starting to read like a game of Clue Colonel Mustard
Or like a game of dodgeball, players getting knocked off left and right
I meant with the weird scenario/ conspiracy theory posts as to why and why recruits come here.. All I can say is we didn't lose Thaddeus to South Carolina. I hope he does well there.
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
This recruiting stuff is starting to read like a game of Clue Colonel Mustard
Or like a game of dodgeball, players getting knocked off left and right
I meant with the weird scenario/ conspiracy theory posts as to why and why recruits come here.. All I can say is we didn't lose Thaddeus to South Carolina. I hope he does well there.
Ya very few or 0 mins to be had at SG for the next 2 years at least
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Very curious to see how things shake up now, wasn't expecting him to be a gamecock , heck wasn't even expecting him to be eligible
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Very curious to see how things shake up now, wasn't expecting him to be a gamecock , heck wasn't even expecting him to be eligible
Well still no guarantee on the 2nd part.
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
This recruiting stuff is starting to read like a game of Clue Colonel Mustard
Or like a game of dodgeball, players getting knocked off left and right
But if youre a guard, why the hell would you come to St Johns now? Harrison is a stud, he'll play majority of minutes. And when he needs a rest, Greene will be there with Branch. With Felix scrapping for minutes
I think Felix will actually get decent minutes. He's an elite athlete and excellent defender. Moose and others who saw him recently said theres more offense than we all realize. He'll work in for at least 12 minutes per game considering the pressure zones we use and depth we require.
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St. John's seemed to be in the lead for him for a while. Maybe they backed off? Maybe he backed off, because he caught wind of another commit coming our way?
This recruiting stuff is starting to read like a game of Clue Colonel Mustard
Or like a game of dodgeball, players getting knocked off left and right
But if youre a guard, why the hell would you come to St Johns now? Harrison is a stud, he'll play majority of minutes. And when he needs a rest, Greene will be there with Branch. With Felix scrapping for minutes
I think Felix will actually get decent minutes. He's an elite athlete and excellent defender. Moose and others who saw him recently said theres more offense than we all realize. He'll work in for at least 12 minutes per game considering the pressure zones we use and depth we require.
Great to hear! Other than some highlight reels, Ive never seen any of these guys play. Which is why I ask alot of dumb questions and start threads like "starting 5".
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Wishing this brave young man nuthin but the best down Dixie way!
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I wish him all the best, but we have different needs. Otherwise, he'd probably be here.
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I wish him all the best, but we have different needs. Otherwise, he'd probably be here.
Agreed 100%
In addition I would like to add, this is the perfect example of what we were talking about in the NYC thread, this kid has been through hell and back in NYC with his family's economic situation. A kid like Hall said he needed something different. He goes down south to a good school with a nice campus away from it all to enjoy college life. Really very happy for him.
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South Carolina has a new coach. Anyone know who it is?
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South Carolina has a new coach. Anyone know who it is?
Frank Martin formally of Western Kentucky
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South Carolina has a new coach. Anyone know who it is?
Not sure if this is a sarcastic post.. But Google is a wonderful tool :)
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Kansas State, not Western Kentucky. Their recently fired coach, Darrin Horn, was previously the coach at Western Kentucky.
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Interesting challenge ahead for South Carolina basketball....good coach and a good signing for the program.
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Kansas State, not Western Kentucky. Their recently fired coach, Darrin Horn, was previously the coach at Western Kentucky.
I don't know why I said that :-[
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The big man from South Kent and former K-State commit, who's name I can't spell is also following Frank Martin to SC
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The big man from South Kent and former K-State commit, who's name I can't spell is also following Frank Martin to SC
Chatkevicius ? I'd bettter not say he's 6'11- 265
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The big man from South Kent and former K-State commit, who's name I can't spell is also following Frank Martin to SC
Chatkevicius ? I'd bettter not say he's 6'11- 265
Lumbering big man. Outside of a 20 second clip from is8 that wet some posters pants, he isn't that great.
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The big man from South Kent and former K-State commit, who's name I can't spell is also following Frank Martin to SC
Chatkevicius ? I'd bettter not say he's 6'11- 265
Lumbering big man. Outside of a 20 second clip from is8 that wet some posters pants, he isn't that great.
20 seconds can be a long time. Cue Bobre in 3- 2 ...
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Good for him!
“@NYPost_Brazille: I'm hearing Jefferson guard and South Carolina commit Thaddeus Hall is expected to qualify. #boyshoops”
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The big man from South Kent and former K-State commit, who's name I can't spell is also following Frank Martin to SC
Chatkevicius ? I'd bettter not say he's 6'11- 265
Lumbering big man. Outside of a 20 second clip from is8 that wet some posters pants, he isn't that great.
Heheh I saw the SK-Brewster game and he looked every bit as good as McGarry. I need to see more.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Former Jefferson star Thaddeus Hall is hoping to enroll at South Carolina in late October, per Lawrence Pollard. Academic issues to sort out”
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Former Jefferson star Thaddeus Hall is hoping to enroll at South Carolina in late October, per Lawrence Pollard. Academic issues to sort out”
Late October? Wow so he's not playing 1st semester.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Former Jefferson star Thaddeus Hall is hoping to enroll at South Carolina in late October, per Lawrence Pollard. Academic issues to sort out”
Late October? Wow so he's not playing 1st semester.
How can he enroll mid-semester??? What school allows that?
But I noticed a few days ago that despite tweets to the contrary Mr. Hall was NOT on USC's roster on their website while other 2012 recruits were on the website thus implying he did not make it thru the Eligiblity Center.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: With Hall a question to play D 1 this year, that leaves Justin Jenkins at Fairfield as lone PSAL player from last season at D I level. #sad”
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Plenty of blame to go around for that. 1. Parents apathetic to their children's future; 2. Unqualified teachers in the classroom; 3. Student-athletes apathetic about taking care of business in the classroom
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“@NYPost_Brazille: With Hall a question to play D 1 this year, that leaves Justin Jenkins at Fairfield as lone PSAL player from last season at D I level. #sad”
But how many kids started at PSAL and ended up at out of area schools and went D1?
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“@WillGunter247: Confirmed this morning that former SCarolina commitment Thaddeus Hall is at South Plains JC in TX but will not play this season.”
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“@WillGunter247: Confirmed this morning that former SCarolina commitment Thaddeus Hall is at South Plains JC in TX but will not play this season.”
Has he been there all year?
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“@WillGunter247: Confirmed this morning that former SCarolina commitment Thaddeus Hall is at South Plains JC in TX but will not play this season.”
Has he been there all year?
FINALLY SOME NEWS!!! http://www.goupstate.com/article/20130106/PSPORTS02/130109818 (http://www.goupstate.com/article/20130106/PSPORTS02/130109818) 6-5 Thaddeus Hall of Brooklyn committed to USC for the 2012 class last April but never signed. He also did not qualify so he could not enroll. But Hall still has plans on making it to USC. In an interview with NYCHoops.net, Hall said he he will be enrolling this week at South Plains JC, TX. He said he will play next season at the junior college and then, if all goes well, transfer to USC for the 2014 season. Hall said he's been in touch with the Gamecock staff and has seen the Gamecocks play three times this season. Hall was one of the top players in New York City as a senior.
This was posted recently, so no he wasn't.
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Hope this works out for him.
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Another genius
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I think he should check the track record :crazy2:
Look how he did Omari Lawrence..... ::)
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Looks like he's on his way out from SC...No room for him here, but best of luck to him.
"On my unofficial visit at southern mississippi into tomorrow then after that off to ole miss then last stop the university of memphis #blessed."
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Looks like he's on his way out from SC...No room for him here, but best of luck to him.
"On my unofficial visit at southern mississippi into tomorrow then after that off to ole miss then last stop the university of memphis #blessed."
“@GothamHoops: Former Wings Academy standout, Deonte Houston has committed to Southern Mississippi. Houston joins Thaddeus Hall and Leroy Fludd at SMU”
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@JucoRecruiting: Thaddeus Hall (6'5/2015) will transfer from Jones County JC to Lee College (TX) for his sophomore year of JC.
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Great story from the Times this past March on Hall and Truck Fludd, who won their JC championship together in Mississippi.
Pretty amazing that the two best talents coming out of the city two years ago have gone from competing in the Garden for a city title, to SC prep schools, to Mississippi JC, and now Texas. Rooting for their success in the years to come:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/sports/ncaabasketball/brooklyn-to-the-big-time-but-first-a-stop-in-mississippi.html?_r=0# (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/sports/ncaabasketball/brooklyn-to-the-big-time-but-first-a-stop-in-mississippi.html?_r=0#)
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Great story from the Times this past March on Hall and Truck Bryant, who won their JC championship together in Mississippi.
Pretty amazing that the two best talents coming out of the city two years ago have gone from competing in the Garden for a city title, to SC prep schools, to Mississippi JC, and now Texas. Rooting for their success in the years to come:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/sports/ncaabasketball/brooklyn-to-the-big-time-but-first-a-stop-in-mississippi.html?_r=0# (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/sports/ncaabasketball/brooklyn-to-the-big-time-but-first-a-stop-in-mississippi.html?_r=0#)
Truck Bryant played for Huggins at W Virginia and was a Norm miss.