6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: kjd01067 on May 30, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
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http://saintjohns.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=8&c=1&nid=3025224 (http://saintjohns.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=8&c=1&nid=3025224)
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Roberts On Hand For Joe Brown Tourney
Jay Gomes, NJHoops.com
July 16, 2008
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=827192
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The July live period is the busiest time of year for scouts as well as college coaches. The tournaments run for early in the morning until late at night. The Joe Brown Memorial Tournament featured 40 teams and had 60 games on Sunday at Fairleigh Dickinson University and 6 games on Monday at Paterson Catholic High School in Paterson.
Most college coaches left after Sunday's games for another important tournament in West Virginia. There were a few coaches who stayed right until the final buzzer of the 2008 Joe Brown Memorial Tournament. Those schools that were there at the very end:
Seton Hall - Assistant Coach Kevin Murphy
St. Peter's - Assistant Coach John Morton
Providence - Assistant Coach Pat Skerry
St. John's - Head Coach Norm Roberts & Assistant Coach Chris Casey
Manhattan - Head Coach Barry Rohrssen
Fordham - Assistant Coach Jared Grasso
Robert Morris - Assistant Coach Andy Toole
Binghamton - Assistant Coach Julius Allen
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ASHTONPANKEY5_27200.JPG)
St. Anthony's 6-foot-8 Jr. Ashton Pankey who is rated among the top 10 juniors in the state in a real strong class, was among the high major recruits in the championship games.
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Does anyone think Bob Hurley Sr is going to send anyone St. John's way anytime soon..
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Does anyone think Bob Hurley Sr is going to send anyone St. John's way anytime soon..
Sure Why not?
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Does anyone think Bob Hurley Sr is going to send anyone St. John's way anytime soon..
Sure Why not?
Coach Hurley, who is a very loyal person, was not happy about St. John's handled Eljiah Ingram.. right or wrong... he tends to push kids to people he completely trusts...
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Does anyone think Bob Hurley Sr is going to send anyone St. John's way anytime soon..
Sure Why not?
Coach Hurley, who is a very loyal person, was not happy about St. John's handled Eljiah Ingram.. right or wrong... he tends to push kids to people he completely trusts...
SJU was in a very tough spot. It was either get rid of everybody directly involved in the Pitt scandal... or cut our McD's all-american pg a break based solely on his ability to help the team on the court.... Although the SJU brass should thank their lucky stars that Elijah was smart enough to record that whore with his phone while she tried to shake them down for more money. Because if he didn't that situation could have turned into a complete circus if they had to go to trial. The schools rep took a hit already but it could have been much, MUCH worse... :o :-[ ... If that is the reason Hurley holds a grudge against SJU it is a very unfortunate situation. Because the only person he is hurting is his player & their family. For example, if a kid like Pankey wanted to stay close to home he would be a perfect fit at SJU. Because by his sophmore year he would be thrust right into the starting line-up as Burrell's replacement. Plus, unlike that bald stooge Jarvis, Norm & co. actually look out for their players on/off the court & especially in the classroom.... Hopefully one day that bridge could be mended for the sake of everybody involved.. :) .. peace!
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If Hurley is a disciplinarian who tries to mold his players into responsible young men, how could he be upset with St. John's for disciplining the players---specifically Elijah---who were involved in the Pitt scandal. Isn't that disingenuous?
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It might have to do with some of the rhetoric that come out around then (Fr. Harrington's comment about the "culture" of the team), or about how swiftly they "permanently suspended" Ingram (who hadn't been in trouble previous to that) + co to make the school look better/ stave off a media hit. The guys didn't assault anyone, and what they did might not have merited the harsh response from the (embarrassed) administration.
I don't know why Hurley has a mad on about what happened; I think the school was reacting to the image of being a "thug" school, but I think getting caught with an "I'm not a hooker" hooker merited some kind of sanction on the kids.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B01E6DC113BF935A35751C0A9629C8B63
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The school is bound to enforce not only the general moral standards that any institution of higher learning would with regard to their student-athletes, but they are also bound by the moral dictates of the Catholic Church. I don't know if all of the players were discipline proportionate to their actions (since I don't know the details of what each did), but the school had to take action. While I didn't like the talk of possibly eliminating the basketball program, as an alum, I was glad that something was done.
The road to recovery has been slow and painful but I'm confident that we are headed in the right direction. If local H.S. coaches refuse to steer any of their players to us, I'm sure they are doing some of them a disservice. While some find a better opportunity elsewhere, there are some for whom St. John's would be the right fit.
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It a long road. And it just gets longer.
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The school is bound to enforce not only the general moral standards that any institution of higher learning would with regard to their student-athletes, but they are also bound by the moral dictates of the Catholic Church. I don't know if all of the players were discipline proportionate to their actions (since I don't know the details of what each did), but the school had to take action. While I didn't like the talk of possibly eliminating the basketball program, as an alum, I was glad that something was done.
The road to recovery has been slow and painful but I'm confident that we are headed in the right direction. If local H.S. coaches refuse to steer any of their players to us, I'm sure they are doing some of them a disservice. While some find a better opportunity elsewhere, there are some for whom St. John's would be the right fit.
That about sums it up simplyred... excellent post... peace!
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One team that has many following their progress in IS8 is New Heights (Jrs). On Saturday, NBE was able to catch up with a couple of their forwards in Ashton Pankey and Devon Collier, who both play for Bob Hurley at St. Anthony’s of Jersey City (NJ).
Collier rattled off a list that included Memphis, Pittsburgh, Wake Forest, North Carolina State and Virginia of offers he is considering currently.
Pankey listed Xavier, Fordham, Wake Forest and St. John’s as his offers of interest currently.
Both players indicated a desire to play their college ball in the Big East conference
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http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/06/14/rumble-in-the-bronx-day-two-part-ii/ (http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/06/14/rumble-in-the-bronx-day-two-part-ii/)
Another of the New Heights/St. Anthony’s big men is Ashton Pankey, who will take the advice of his legendary high school coach Bob Hurley and hit several camps this summer for more exposure. From the Big East, the power forward counts offers from Providence, West Virginia and St. John’s with UConn and Pitt looking.
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http://www.fiveborosports.com/ssp/news?news_id=3495 (http://www.fiveborosports.com/ssp/news?news_id=3495)
Gaining consistency, Ashton Pankey emerges
Ashton Pankey continued to progress as last week's Reebok All-American Camp in front of hundreds of Division I college coaches.
By Zachary Braziller
July 12, 2009
Ashton Pankey begrudgingly transferred from Archbishop Molloy HS in Briarwood Queens to St. Anthony in Jersey City last year.
He couldn’t be happier with his good fortune now.
His grades have improved, to an 85 average and 1400 on the SATs, and his maturity is obvious. He is more confident, on the court and off. He is a harder worker.
The switch from one legendary coach, Jack Curran at Molloy, to another in Bob Hurley at St. Anthony has had a resounding effect on Pankey.
Lifting weights for the first time, he is stronger; his conditioning improved, too. Facing better competition forced him to improve on a daily basis. He has become a rebounding and shot-blocking force, and a deadlier threat in the paint offensively.
“I’m more disciplined now,†said Pankey, who still lives at home in the Bronx, making the commute to Jersey City every day during the school year. “I’m happy with my situation.â€
The athletically gifted, 6-foot-8 Pankey competed in the Reebok All-American Camp last week at Philadelphia University, making the all-star team. He has received scholarship offers from LaSalle, Temple, Manhattan, St. John’s and Rhode Island and interest from Louisville, USC and Syracuse.
“He’s strong, talented. … I think he has a great upside,†one Big East assistant coach said. “He makes the 15-foot jump shot, makes layups. That’s important, when a big guy makes layups.â€
Pankey got a late start to basketball, joining Team Odom in the sixth grade, at the age of 11. Two years later, he found his way to New Heights, an emerging AAU program.
In a lengthy interview, he never once talked about what he has accomplished; it was what he needed to master to improve. It’s music to Kimani Young’s ears. The New Heights athletic director sees that as a reflection of Hurley, his new coach.
“He’s driven,†Young said. “Obviously playing for Coach Hurley is going to push him to his limits, and that can only help him as a player and a person.â€
Young, who coaches Pankey during the fall and summer, said consistency – “when he wants to bring it every day, the sky is the limit,†he said – is the lone characteristic holding back the talented forward. He’s seen that relentlessness recently, particularly in Philadelphia.
“He’s been competing at a high level,†Young said.
Pankey said he would like to add diversity to his game, to become a threat on the perimeter as well as in the paint, where he can finish with either hand. Blessed with quickness and soft hands, Pankey said he feels he can play small forward at the next level. Before that, Young wants him to develop a go-to move on the low blocks, a jump hook or turnaround jumper to complement his power game.
“That will come with time,†Young said.
His development may never have taken place if not for the incident that painted Pankey in a poor light. School officials accused him of possessing a stolen cell phone on school grounds; he said he paid for it, only to learn it was stolen later. Pankey eventually withdrew from Molloy after being told he was no longer wanted.
He said it bothered him that the negative information got out before he could clear his name and set the record straight.
Looking back, he said, it was a blessing.
“At the end of the day look at where I am now,†Pankey said. “I have great colleges (recruiting me). I’m playing great.â€
zbraziller@fiveborosports.com
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http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/07/31/summer-in-the-city-news-notes-12-noon-update/ (http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/07/31/summer-in-the-city-news-notes-12-noon-update/)
Ashton Pankey heard from Maryland just yesterday. Other interested schools include Pittsburgh, St. John’s, Hofstra, USC, Miami, Siena, Fordham and Oregon State. He has offers from Western Kentucky, Houston and Rice, who has been showing him the most interest.
Pankey is wide open, but currently he would rate his three favorites as Rice, Manhattan and St. John’s.
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http://blog.northstarbball.com/2009/09/22/college-commitment-projections-september-edition-part-4.aspx (http://blog.northstarbball.com/2009/09/22/college-commitment-projections-september-edition-part-4.aspx)
Ashton Pankey, PF, 6'8, St. Anthony's (NJ), n/a
Favorite: Rice
2nd in Line: Maryland
3rd in Line: Providence
Watch Out for: Pitt, St. John's
Pankey's recruitment is a tough one to read. In addition to Rice, Maryland, Providence, Pitt, and St. John's, there are several other schools heavily involved, such as Manhattan, Western Kentucky, Houston, Siena, and Miami. As of now, it does not seem that the big man has locked in on wanting to attend a high-major school and there are certainly a handful of mid-major schools still in play. Rice looks like it could be the leader at this point. The Owls recently had an in-home visit with Pankey and have also done a great job of recruiting New Jersey schools. The C-USA program has not wrapped of Pankey yet, but Ben Braun and Co. seem to be in good shape. Maryland is probably more likely to get Pankey than it is Collier. The ACC school needs a big man, and Pankey might be on who would want to go to College Park. A trio of Big East schools are also solidly in play. Of the trio—Providence, Pitt, and St. John's—PC might be in the best shape. Keno Davis is a fantastic recruiter and is a major player here. Pitt has been working the NYC area—Ashton is from the Big Apple—and Pankey would be a good get for Jamie Dixon. St. John's is looking to land one of the New Heights trio of Pankey, Collier, and Jayvaughn Pinkston and would likely be happy with any of them. Norm Roberts is working hard to get Pankey and the Red Storm should not be ruled out.
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nice update
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It looks like we are out.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/10/01/pankey-to-visit-maryland-st-joes-crosgile-sidelined/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/10/01/pankey-to-visit-maryland-st-joes-crosgile-sidelined/)
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It looks like we are out.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/10/01/pankey-to-visit-maryland-st-joes-crosgile-sidelined/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/10/01/pankey-to-visit-maryland-st-joes-crosgile-sidelined/)
I think we've been out for a while. It's only a real loss if we whiff on everyone we have ahead of him on our list, but he seems like he could be a nice player. The impression I get is that he has all the tools, but just needs to learn to play with a fire under his ass at all times.
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I think we've been out for a while. It's only a real loss if we whiff on everyone we have ahead of him on our list, but he seems like he could be a nice player. The impression I get is that he has all the tools, but just needs to learn to play with a fire under his ass at all times.
Harris,
Southwell,
Lamb,
Irving,
Collier,
Moore,
Odom,
Basabe
Pinkston
Roberts
Yeguette
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/11/pinkston-lamb-may-sign-late-complete-new-york-area-signing-day-roundup/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/11/pinkston-lamb-may-sign-late-complete-new-york-area-signing-day-roundup/)
**Ashton Pankey, a 6-8 forward from New York who plays at St. Anthony, will visit Houston this weekend and will then decide between Houston and Maryland, which he visited last weekend.
“He really liked Maryland and I know he wants to be able to compare Maryland to another school,†St. Anthony coach Bob Hurley said.
“He’ll make a decision right after his visit,†Young added.
http://www.testudotimes.com/2009/11/11/1126228/hippo-to-memphis#comments (http://www.testudotimes.com/2009/11/11/1126228/hippo-to-memphis#comments)
According to Scout and Rivals, he has signed his LOI with Memphis. I would guess that this has more to do with academics than anything else.
Ashton Pankey, come on down...
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save it for a stud after u win 20
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you keep dreaming about that 20 number. forget 20. are we able to compete with the pitts and villanovas? if not...the best players are going there...not here.
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he will be announcing his decision in about an hour on sny.tv
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Pankey goes to Maryland.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/16/pankey-makes-the-call/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/16/pankey-makes-the-call/)
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“@jeffborzello: RT @insidemdsports: Freshman PF Ashton Pankey leaving Maryland & will likely transfer somewhere closer to home in NY, multiple sources say.”
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“@jeffborzello: RT @insidemdsports: Freshman PF Ashton Pankey leaving Maryland & will likely transfer somewhere closer to home in NY, multiple sources say.”
I saw him play a few times this year. He looks like the could be a nice big off the bench
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“@jeffborzello: RT @insidemdsports: Freshman PF Ashton Pankey leaving Maryland & will likely transfer somewhere closer to home in NY, multiple sources say.”
Iona.
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“@jeffborzello: RT @insidemdsports: Freshman PF Ashton Pankey leaving Maryland & will likely transfer somewhere closer to home in NY, multiple sources say.”
Iona.
They are out of ships. I wouldnt mind him as a backup plan to Nolan.
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“@jeffborzello: RT @insidemdsports: Freshman PF Ashton Pankey leaving Maryland & will likely transfer somewhere closer to home in NY, multiple sources say.”
Iona.
They are out of ships. I wouldnt mind him as a backup plan to Nolan.
I remember him as a soph at Molloy. I liked his game then. He was 6'7 then. Has he grown any ?
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/15/marylands-pankey-transferring/#more-73453 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/15/marylands-pankey-transferring/#more-73453)
Zags reporting interest, looks like he medical redshirted last year
not sure if he would be eligible immediately or not...
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Reading these quotes, it implies that he's going to try to get a waiver to play next season, and that Turgeon is supporting that:
Terps coach Mark Turgeon later confirmed the news via a press release and said in a statement that Pankey, a native of Bronx, N.Y., “needed to find a school closer to home in order to aid his family.”
“My mom is the rock in my life and I promised her I would take care of her like she did for me,” Pankey said. “Therefore, I am choosing to put my family first and look for a school closer to home.
http://maryland.247sports.com/Article/A-Third-Offseason-Departure-73875 (http://maryland.247sports.com/Article/A-Third-Offseason-Departure-73875)
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On Marylands Yahoo website he's listed as a 6'9" 220 lb frosh
Averaged 4.7 pts & 4.9 rebs in 20 min/g
We were in his final list back when he 1st decided-
Only if Immediately eligible
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Bball....you got a scoring report for us?
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Remember he burned his redshirt year already. So unless he gets a waiver to play immediately OR he down the road applies for a 6th year he will basically LOSE a full year of eligibility because of the transfer assuming he has to sit a year.
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1) he'll probably get the waiver because of his injury, coaching change etc.
2) is he any good or at least worth taking into the program?
He's a big kid which we desperately need and he's from an ACC program. He could possibly help us if he's playing right away. Not sure if it's worth it if he's not going to play this season. Thoughts?
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He's alright with me a personal friend of a friend. Sign him up
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He's alright with me a personal friend of a friend. Sign him up
Ditto Chille!
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I'd take him if he's eligible to play immediately because he fits a need. He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Since he had a medical redshirt he is allowed to keep that year of eligibility transferring. If it wasn't due to medical he would lose it. I'm 95% sure on that.
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I'd take him if he's eligible to play immediately because he fits a need. He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Since he had a medical redshirt he is allowed to keep that year of eligibility transferring. If it wasn't due to medical he would lose it. I'm 95% sure on that.
When does Iona have to trim down the 45 man roster?
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1) he'll probably get the waiver because of his injury, coaching change etc.
2) is he any good or at least worth taking into the program?
He's a big kid which we desperately need and he's from an ACC program. He could possibly help us if he's playing right away. Not sure if it's worth it if he's not going to play this season. Thoughts?
My sense is he will get the family related waiver. Who doesn't today? He would bring strength, size and rebounding, fitting a need for us. Tough call if it puts Chandler at risk, but I believe Lavin can work that out. Getting two bigs this late would be great. Louisville and UConn last year shuffled the cards to make things work when exceeding ship count. Sure we can as well IMO.
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1) he'll probably get the waiver because of his injury, coaching change etc.
2) is he any good or at least worth taking into the program?
He's a big kid which we desperately need and he's from an ACC program. He could possibly help us if he's playing right away. Not sure if it's worth it if he's not going to play this season. Thoughts?
My sense is he will get the family related waiver. Who doesn't today? He would bring strength, size and rebounding, fitting a need for us. Tough call if it puts Collier at risk, but I believe Lavin can work that out. Getting two bigs this late would be great. Louisville and UConn last year shuffled the cards to make things work when exceeding ship count. Sure we can as well IMO.
Collier?
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1) he'll probably get the waiver because of his injury, coaching change etc.
2) is he any good or at least worth taking into the program?
He's a big kid which we desperately need and he's from an ACC program. He could possibly help us if he's playing right away. Not sure if it's worth it if he's not going to play this season. Thoughts?
My sense is he will get the family related waiver. Who doesn't today? He would bring strength, size and rebounding, fitting a need for us. Tough call if it puts Collier at risk, but I believe Lavin can work that out. Getting two bigs this late would be great. Louisville and UConn last year shuffled the cards to make things work when exceeding ship count. Sure we can as well IMO.
Collier?
Meant Chandler! Sorry, guess I had Pankey's buddy Devon Collier on my feeble mind!
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With Rhoomes already at Fordham, why are they even on his list? (Maybe he won't be eligible?) Also, the minute he sigjns at St Johns, he gets recruited over. He'll start right away at Iona. No brainer imo.
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I thought Iona was out of ships?
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I like what Wood can do, but we still don't have a center. To take this kid, and start the season with mid major height would make it very hard our front court to succeed w out being very polished.
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I thought Iona was out of ships?
I'm still thinking someone is leaving Iona, if not, make room.
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Is it only me or are there others who are sick and tired of these "hardship" transfers. I don't think any transferee should be able to transfer without sitting out (unless there is a change of head coach who recruited you or the program is placed on NCAA probation). If a transferee has to "come home" because someone is sick in their family how can they care for that person while being a full time student and a full time athlete. It would seem to me that the trandferee should be spending time to make the hardship better. If the NCAA gets rid of this easy out maybe the athletes will be a little bit more cautious in making their choice in the first place.
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Remember he burned his redshirt year already. So unless he gets a waiver to play immediately OR he down the road applies for a 6th year he will basically LOSE a full year of eligibility because of the transfer assuming he has to sit a year.
He's probably going to get the waiver to play right away. Also, it's pretty safe to say he's going to get the sixth year if the NCAA denies his waiver this year. Scott Martin was just given a sixth year at Notre Dame with a very similar background--one year out for transfer and one year out with injury.
I'd take this kid for sure if he can get that waiver. He's probably a better fit for Iona, but we could definitely use a strong kid like Pankey.
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Is it only me or are there others who are sick and tired of these "hardship" transfers. I don't think any transferee should be able to transfer without sitting out (unless there is a change of head coach who recruited you or the program is placed on NCAA probation). If a transferee has to "come home" because someone is sick in their family how can they care for that person while being a full time student and a full time athlete. It would seem to me that the trandferee should be spending time to make the hardship better. If the NCAA gets rid of this easy out maybe the athletes will be a little bit more cautious in making their choice in the first place.
Ashton signed wit Gary.
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Choz--thanks for info. Under my 2 scenarios he should be able to transfer and play immediately. It is outside of those 2 scenarios that I have a problem with the rule.
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I'd take him if he's eligible to play immediately because he fits a need. He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Since he had a medical redshirt he is allowed to keep that year of eligibility transferring. If it wasn't due to medical he would lose it. I'm 95% sure on that.
I agree that I would only really be interested if he gets the waiver.
6th years are never automatic. There are circumstances where the NCAA is more sympathetic to granting a 6th year, no doubt. But it still has to be applied for just like Scott Martin.
The rule is you get 5 years to complete 4 years of playing eligibility. Period. If you need to more years to complete your eligibility regardless of the circumstances you must apply for an exception.
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With Rhoomes already at Fordham, why are they even on his list? (Maybe he won't be eligible?) Also, the minute he sigjns at St Johns, he gets recruited over. He'll start right away at Iona. No brainer imo.
I don't know if he gets recruited over, we seem to not recruit too many kids that are a true 4 and have the bulk to mess around inside.
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Remember he burned his redshirt year already. So unless he gets a waiver to play immediately OR he down the road applies for a 6th year he will basically LOSE a full year of eligibility because of the transfer assuming he has to sit a year.
He's probably going to get the waiver to play right away. Also, it's pretty safe to say he's going to get the sixth year if the NCAA denies his waiver this year. Scott Martin was just given a sixth year at Notre Dame with a very similar background--one year out for transfer and one year out with injury.
I'd take this kid for sure if he can get that waiver. He's probably a better fit for Iona, but we could definitely use a strong kid like Pankey.
+1
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Would Lavin take him even if there is still hope for Chandler to qualify?
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Would Lavin take him even if there is still hope for Chandler to qualify?
I think we would take both and figure out the ship situation
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I looked at some film on him at Maryland. He's certainly somebody we can use if he gets cleared to play right away. He's a big, physical player who doesn't pretend to be a perimeter guy. I'd love to add Pankey AND Chandler heading into next year. I don't care whether or not he gets an extra year of eligibility. He can help us right now and won't necessarily get automatically get recruited over. Seems like a worthwhile pickup for sure IF immediately eligible.
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Would Lavin take him even if there is still hope for Chandler to qualify?
I think we would take both and figure out the ship situation
Agree Ted!!
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Would Lavin take him even if there is still hope for Chandler to qualify?
I think we would take both and figure out the ship situation
Agree Ted!!
But doesn't figuring out "the ship situation" require addition by substraction? Someone currently holding or committed to a ship has to go, correct?
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Staff will figure this out if we decide to take two bigs. Again, look at how Loisville and UConn made it work last year.
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Staff will figure this out if we decide to take two bigs. Again, look at how Loisville and UConn made it work last year.
Well, I was shocked when Drummond agreed to walk on to free up a ship at Uconn, so I guess it's possible not to lose any remaining players if we take two bigs. I'm just not banking on that happening.
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Staff will figure this out if we decide to take two bigs. Again, look at how Loisville and UConn made it work last year.
There will be room if it comes to fruition.
The only thing about only wanting Pankey if he gets the waiver is of course you don't know about the waiver until AFTER he has signed and is a member of your program. Only then can you apply for it and if it is deniedyou have already committed yourself anyway.
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If he signed and then the ncaa screwed us again I suggest the NY Post headline " Hanky Pankey "
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Staff will figure this out if we decide to take two bigs. Again, look at how Loisville and UConn made it work last year.
That made uconn look really bad.
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Staff will figure this out if we decide to take two bigs. Again, look at how Loisville and UConn made it work last year.
That made uconn look really bad.
It wont be that bad
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He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Curious, what is the reasoning behind thinking he is better suited at a school like Iona. He is coming from an ACC school where he played significant minutesa and you think he needs to click down a level in play as a transfer.?
Not saying you are wrong but what are the basketball reasons behind that thought or is it just opinion..?
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He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Curious, what is the reasoning behind thinking he is better suited at a school like Iona. He is coming from an ACC school where he played significant minutesa and you think he needs to click down a level in play as a transfer.?
Not saying you are wrong but what are the basketball reasons behind that thought or is it just opinion..?
Concur with you PMG, Ashton can bang in BE and rebound, all we need from him!
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He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Curious, what is the reasoning behind thinking he is better suited at a school like Iona. He is coming from an ACC school where he played significant minutesa and you think he needs to click down a level in play as a transfer.?
Not saying you are wrong but what are the basketball reasons behind that thought or is it just opinion..?
Concur with you PMG, Ashton can bang in BE and rebound, all we need from him!
I agree with PMG too, Pankey is a Big East player, I don't think with his size and the need for players like him on a high Div 1 program that he drops to an Iona type program and conference.
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He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Curious, what is the reasoning behind thinking he is better suited at a school like Iona. He is coming from an ACC school where he played significant minutesa and you think he needs to click down a level in play as a transfer.?
Not saying you are wrong but what are the basketball reasons behind that thought or is it just opinion..?
Concur with you PMG, Ashton can bang in BE and rebound, all we need from him!
I agree with PMG too, Pankey is a Big East player, I don't think with his size and the need for players like him on a high Div 1 program that he drops to an Iona type program and conference.
Agree Ted. I think that guys like Baldi are hoping for that to be true. If Lavin wants this kid, he'll get him. Hes not a lower level player. Teams like Seton Hall aren't landing bigs as good with the exception of Pope of course. With our need for a big and him likely being immediately available, I think he will be a real option. He'd fit right in with Gift in the post. Solve an immediate problem.
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Would Pankey play over Gift? Does anyone know his game?
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Why didn't Rhoomes come to St Johns? Is Pankey better? Do you think the staff has Pankey as a 3 year starter?
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Why would he play over gift? He most likely would need to sit out a year as a transfer, doesn't sound like he has a family health issue to where the NCAA would let him play right away. Right?
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Why would he play over gift? He most likely would need to sit out a year as a transfer, doesn't sound like he has a family health issue to where the NCAA would let him play right away. Right?
I believe his mother is sick. He could play over Gift, he might be better but likely would come off the bench.
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Why didn't Rhoomes come to St Johns? Is Pankey better? Do you think the staff has Pankey as a 3 year starter?
Pankey is bigger and better than Rhoomes from what I've heard. Again, one an ACC player. He could split time with Gift and offer us a lot with two big men and 5 more fouls to give. Plus he's 6'9" and can defend the post against taller players more effectively than Gift. BTW, why does the staff have to have Pankey as a 3-year starter? I don't think the staff recruits anybody to start their entire career. They recruit the best talent knowing some will stay, some will go to NBA and other places. I sense Baldi throwing a little gasoline on the fire here.
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Why would he play over gift? He most likely would need to sit out a year as a transfer, doesn't sound like he has a family health issue to where the NCAA would let him play right away. Right?
I believe his mother is sick. He could play over Gift, he might be better but likely would come off the bench.
He might get a waiver due to the collective circumstances of season ending injury, new staff coupled with family issue. Multiple issues where there is a good chance NCAA could grant him immediate eligibility.
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Bball....you got a scoring report for us?
Sorry for the delay.
A few things: With all the promising bigs coming in for MD last year and this year's class, Pankey still would have seen solid minutes as probably the first big off the bench, eventually ceding some time to Shaq Cleare as the 2012-13 season goes on.
I do think Ashton's mom is not feeling well lately (meaning it's legit, not the "family member ill cause it's not workin' for me" syndrome)
That being said, Stoglin (not liking school that much), Mychal Parker (not grasping systems well), and Ashton (too many bigs, inconsistent play) were the subject of the transfer rumor mill a lot of last season. The weed got Stogs and Parker suspended for next year, and Ashton may have simply needed to be there for his mom.
In my opinion, I liked what I saw in Ashton last season considering the multiple leg injuries, and liked what I could see Ashton's game becoming. He's agile, pursues rebounds hard with a nose for where the ball will be, and runs the floor well. Ashton's athleticism on D has always been his calling card, and on offense, he showed signs of a decent 8-12 foot jumper. Ashton sometimes wore his emotions on his sleeve, and many fans did not take to his body mannerisms on the court. That's not to say he didn't play hard about 80-90% of the time, but just that he's hard on himself and shows it. He seems like a solid guy (I've tweeted the past 2 years as fellow Bronx-ites (lol)).
I think Ashton could make an excellent backup C/PF, and if he plays hard all the time and gets his 20-25 minutes/game, can contribute
on the glass quite a bit. I'd take a chance on Ashton since he has 3 years eligibility left w/ his medical redshirt of 2010-11 season.
Also, I'd like to see Ashton consider my alma mater Manhattan over Iona or Fordham - not a shred of D (sorry Baldi - u know it's true), and excessive losing would sway me away. Steve Masiello is intense about defense - Ashton would be a good fit there as well as St. John's. But make no mistake, I consider Ashton a Big East caliber player.
Oh, and a blog I'm doing for fun with a couple of Terps fans talks briefly not only about Pankey, but the supposed reappearance of Volodymyr Gerun, a 6'9" PF from Ukraine that was bandied about in the summer of 2011. When asked, Turgeon, on the job for all of 3 months, said he didn't know who he was - this right before Alex Len got on campus. Same type of thin, agile, fundamentally sound Ukraine kid as Len that is developing good in the Ukraine program. I hope Lavs starts working that circuit with St. john's having a similarly strong international presence like Maryland. I will not be surprised to see MD land a Chinese big in the years to come with the MTECH (MD Tech Enterprise Institute) International Incubator going full force in Beijing.
http://ontheinsideoftheshell.blogspot.com/2012/05/volodymyr-gerun-mds-new-pf.html (http://ontheinsideoftheshell.blogspot.com/2012/05/volodymyr-gerun-mds-new-pf.html)
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Why didn't Rhoomes come to St Johns? Is Pankey better? Do you think the staff has Pankey as a 3 year starter?
Pankey is bigger and better than Rhoomes from what I've heard. Again, one an ACC player. He could split time with Gift and offer us a lot with two big men and 5 more fouls to give. Plus he's 6'9" and can defend the post against taller players more effectively than Gift. BTW, why does the staff have to have Pankey as a 3-year starter? I don't think the staff recruits anybody to start their entire career. They recruit the best talent knowing some will stay, some will go to NBA and other places. I sense Baldi throwing a little gasoline on the fire here.
It's up to Pankey to become a starter, of course guys like Jakarr and perhaps Branch were promised that but everyone else needs to earn their minutes and I believe even DLo had to earn his starting position.
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With Rhoomes already at Fordham, why are they even on his list? (Maybe he won't be eligible?) Also, the minute he sigjns at St Johns, he gets recruited over. He'll start right away at Iona. No brainer imo.
Ashton may get recruited over for 2013 class (more than likely), but he is a Big East caliber 1st PF/C off the bench talent. Remember, Ashton was the first Molloy player to play as a Frosh since Kenny Anderson - there's some serious rebounding talent there. I just think Ashton needs to get his arms around playing 100% of the time.
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If he signed and then the ncaa screwed us again I suggest the NY Post headline " Hanky Pankey "
For what the 2A has done to St. John's and UMD, I have a serious chip on my shoulder.
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Pankey could be a pretty solid player. He has a good build and when he wanted to be, he was a solid rebounder. He was/is a headcase who was often pouting, had bad body language, lacked hustle, etc. But there were games where he would come out grab a rebound, throw down a dunk and all of the sudden he was into it and playing hard. His defense and bball iq were not strong the majority of the time.
He certainly capable of developing into a solid 3rd or 4th big off the bench.
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Is it only me or are there others who are sick and tired of these "hardship" transfers. I don't think any transferee should be able to transfer without sitting out (unless there is a change of head coach who recruited you or the program is placed on NCAA probation). If a transferee has to "come home" because someone is sick in their family how can they care for that person while being a full time student and a full time athlete. It would seem to me that the trandferee should be spending time to make the hardship better. If the NCAA gets rid of this easy out maybe the athletes will be a little bit more cautious in making their choice in the first place.
Make sure it is a tight and not rubber stamp rule, I agree, but take it away totally disagree. Things happen in life and someone's health or situation may cause the need for a student to be closer to home. Regardless of whether as a full time student athlete, they can be there 100% of the time or being just a short car ride from home instead of a plane or multi hour drive.
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Pankey could be a pretty solid player. He has a good build and when he wanted to be, he was a solid rebounder. He was/is a headcase who was often pouting, had bad body language, lacked hustle, etc. But there were games where he would come out grab a rebound, throw down a dunk and all of the sudden he was into it and playing hard. His defense and bball iq were not strong the majority of the time.
He certainly capable of developing into a solid 3rd or 4th big off the bench.
are you on Testudo Times or other Terps board?
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Pankey could be a pretty solid player. He has a good build and when he wanted to be, he was a solid rebounder. He was/is a headcase who was often pouting, had bad body language, lacked hustle, etc. But there were games where he would come out grab a rebound, throw down a dunk and all of the sudden he was into it and playing hard. His defense and bball iq were not strong the majority of the time.
He certainly capable of developing into a solid 3rd or 4th big off the bench.
Sometimes it's the kid's IQ, but also sometimes it is the coaching. That is not to say the coaching isn't good at UMD. It's just that stylistically, some coaches can get across to kids in different ways. We have lots of great coaches on our staff with different styles. I have no doubt that guys like Dunlap can help do a bit of re-programming with some kids to help them understand the game better. I saw how much Norm's juniors improved under Lavin/Dunlap and Co. Kids that seemed not to "get it" like Burrell really changed a ton with the right staff. Burrell admitted as much in his recent interview and credited the current staff with helping him learn the game. I think we have the type of staff that can do that. Pankey seems like the raw talent, size and athleticism that could potentially make big strides with the right coaching staff.
I think he's likely better than a 3rd or 4th big off the bench. If he comes into the program and we don't land Chandler, I see him sharing half the time at the 5 for the next 2 years at least. Even if we do land Chandler, he'll get time and then share with Chandler after this season. It's a good situation both for Pankey and SJU. Best case of course if he's immediately eligible.
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Im on rivals and our main board on 247. Testudo Times isn't the best place in terms of the comments by posters.
And yea you never know how a player will react to coaching and maybe going through what he went through this last year will get him to change his ways a bit. Well see, Id love for him to come to St. John's and turn into a solid player.
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Gift>Pankey. At this point we are desperate for Bigs we are willing to sign any big body who wants to come here
He is a solid back up 10 mins a game at the C slot. Worth a ship , IMO only if Chandler is not coming for sure. I think we should save it in that case.
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He's a capable body however he'd be better suited to transfer to a school like Iona.
Curious, what is the reasoning behind thinking he is better suited at a school like Iona. He is coming from an ACC school where he played significant minutesa and you think he needs to click down a level in play as a transfer.?
Not saying you are wrong but what are the basketball reasons behind that thought or is it just opinion..?
He was over recruited to the ACC. He is a big man who is very limited offensively. He's a very good rebounder on the offensive end and average on the defensive end.
Going to the MAAC he'd be a monster physically and he could be similar to Siena's OD Anosike where as he has a chance to be Dele Coker in the Big East.
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
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We could have used dele last year. No nothing about this guy. Tired of watching us get killed on the boards. I would sign dele (knowing what dele is) right. Now. Hopefully he only has to play a few minutes
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Well said Dave. I think some posters think of Pankey as a fill in until Lavins snags a 2013 stud big man
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Well said Dave. I think some posters think of Pankey as a fill in until Lavins snags a 2013 stud big man
We aren't presently recruiting a 2013 stud big man.. At least none that are public knowledge.
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Well said Dave. I think some posters think of Pankey as a fill in until Lavins snags a 2013 stud big man
We aren't presently recruiting a 2013 stud big man.. At least none that are public knowledge.
Why not? Gods Gift will be gone
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Well said Dave. I think some posters think of Pankey as a fill in until Lavins snags a 2013 stud big man
We aren't presently recruiting a 2013 stud big man.. At least none that are public knowledge.
Why not? Gods Gift will be gone
I think this is one reason why the staff wanted 2 big men this year . Jermaine Lawrence is being recruited .. But he is not a 5 and truthfully shouldn't be playing the 4 . New names pop up all the time though as you know.
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Well said Dave. I think some posters think of Pankey as a fill in until Lavins snags a 2013 stud big man
We aren't presently recruiting a 2013 stud big man.. At least none that are public knowledge.
Lawrence?
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Well said Dave. I think some posters think of Pankey as a fill in until Lavins snags a 2013 stud big man
We aren't presently recruiting a 2013 stud big man.. At least none that are public knowledge.
Lawrence?
Not a banger to me. More of a wing player .
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Chandler getting eligible would be best case scenario for Baldi
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Its obviously going to be a big choice for Pankey but he would get 15-18 minutes a game at St Johns and part of something special. He has always been a role player so maybe he is comfortable with that
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For those who would know, who would be the better fit for us. Grabbing Pankey or Dickerson and try to develop him
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For those who would know, who would be the better fit for us. Grabbing Pankey or Dickerson and try to develop him
Pankey is the better player to me. Not a huge fan of Dickerson at all.
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For those who would know, who would be the better fit for us. Grabbing Pankey or Dickerson and try to develop him
Pankey
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On a side note, Lawrence is much more of a 4 than he is a 3 where Moe Harkless was much more of a 3 than a 4.
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On a side note, Lawrence is much more of a 4 than he is a 3 where Moe Harkless was much more of a 3 than a 4.
I think both players are best off at the 3.. Every time I have seen Lawrence .. he was always facing the basket and was comfortable handling it left to right. I haven't seen him since he went to jersey though. Has he developed a back to the basket game?
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
Its obviously going to be a big choice for Pankey but he would get 15-18 minutes a game at St Johns and part of something special. He has always been a role player so maybe he is comfortable with that
Get 15 mins a game or start for the rest of his career at Iona and lead his team to tourney? He is a space eater and 5 fouls at St Johns, alot more in the MAAC imo
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On a side note, Lawrence is much more of a 4 than he is a 3 where Moe Harkless was much more of a 3 than a 4.
I think both players are best off at the 3.. Every time I have seen Lawrence .. he was always facing the basket and was comfortable handling it left to right. I haven't seen him since he went to jersey though. Has he developed a back to the basket game?
Agree with you Happy.
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Looking at Pankey's game log from last year, it looks like he had a year similar to Gift. He excelled against the cupcakes early on scoring and rebounding in double digits but then fell off against the real competition. But, we could definitely use the size.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/51509/ashton-pankey (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/51509/ashton-pankey)
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Looking at Pankey's game log from last year, it looks like he had a year similar to Gift. He excelled against the cupcakes early on scoring and rebounding in double digits but then fell off against the real competition. But, we could definitely use the size.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/51509/ashton-pankey (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/51509/ashton-pankey)
2 points against THE Iona Gaels. I like the 11 boards though.
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Who's our second scoring option anyway? I like pan key but only If we get chandler too. We need somebody to throw it down too in the half court.
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Who's our second scoring option anyway? I like pan key but only If we get chandler too. We need somebody to throw it down too in the half court.
Garrett and Pointer. Im high on both these guys next season
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Who's our second scoring option anyway? I like pan key but only If we get chandler too. We need somebody to throw it down too in the half court.
Garrett and Pointer. Im high on both these guys next season
I hope so, neither can create a shot for themselves as of now. Garrett a bit better then pointer but can only go left.
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Who's our second scoring option anyway? I like pan key but only If we get chandler too. We need somebody to throw it down too in the half court.
We don't have a second scoring option. Hopefully Pointer works out the kinks and Lavor Postells this summer. We need that kind of improvement from him, Greene and Garrett. Gift needs the most work which is why I doubt he'll improve any if at all.
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Pankey is a guy that walks up and down the court and plays with no desire or intensity. he would be a horrible fit for this team
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Who's our second scoring option anyway? I like pan key but only If we get chandler too. We need somebody to throw it down too in the half court.
We don't have a second scoring option. Hopefully Pointer works out the kinks and Lavor Postells this summer. We need that kind of improvement from him, Greene and Garrett. Gift needs the most work which is why I doubt he'll improve any if at all.
This is where Branch comes in. Garrett and Pointer should be his best friends. Set them up in good position to put it in the hole, he'll average 10 assists a game. The season only goes as far as Branch and Greene take us
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Pankey is a guy that walks up and down the court and plays with no desire or intensity. he would be a horrible fit for this team
A change of scenery could call for a change of attitude
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Heard last night it that is going to be a street fight between Iona & Manhattan for Pankey..
Dave - great decription of Pankey's game. I heard last night that his leg issues will keep most big schools away.
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Who's our second scoring option anyway? I like pan key but only If we get chandler too. We need somebody to throw it down too in the half court.
We don't have a second scoring option. Hopefully Pointer works out the kinks and Lavor Postells this summer. We need that kind of improvement from him, Greene and Garrett. Gift needs the most work which is why I doubt he'll improve any if at all.
This is where Branch comes in. Garrett and Pointer should be his best friends. Set them up in good position to put it in the hole, he'll average 10 assists a game. The season only goes as far as Branch and Greene take us
I agree for the most part, but both Dom and Amir have to work on their jump shot or we will continue to see a zone often.
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No one suggesting Pankey is the second coming of Elton Brand. He would be a decent sub, banger and rebounder for a team without that asset. Assuming we get Chandler, the need for another big body IMO is evident. Beats Raffington type guys. He may want to be the big fish, however, so he goes to a MAAC team. That is fine.
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Heard last night it that is going to be a street fight between Iona & Manhattan for Pankey..
Dave - great decription of Pankey's game. I heard last night that his leg issues will keep most big schools away.
What are the issues with his leg?
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I think there is a large disparity in being a "capable" player and being an "impact" player. Is Pankey capable of playing in the Big East? Sure but he isn't an impact guy. He might be a good boost due to necessity and for that he deserves a look but he is better suited to check out the MAAC to be an impact player.
True Dave. However, I believe Pankey is a more than capable rebounder. I just wouldn't want to get slaughtered on the boards next season. If Obekpa or Chandler, etc., come in, then Pankey would be a luxury sub. But the limited offensive skills may never materialize at high D1. So yes, he should keep it in Bronx and go with Manhattan ;D
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Heard last night it that is going to be a street fight between Iona & Manhattan for Pankey..
Dave - great decription of Pankey's game. I heard last night that his leg issues will keep most big schools away.
Would love to see how Iona plans on getting him on board with a full set of schollies.
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Pankey has very bad shin splints
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From what i have read and the clips on this esteemed site, I can clearly see that Ashton would not be the "key" to our success next year. He might not even "pan" out as player at this level.
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From what i have read and the clips on this esteemed site, I can clearly see that Ashton would not be the "key" to our success next year. He might not even "pan" out as player at this level.
If we dont get MC or CO and if he would be able to play next year he can provide depth at the 4,5. If he has bad legs,however, dont think he is worth it.
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He may have the injury history but I didn't really see any effects last year. He has some pretty good bounce and is quick off the floor.
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Who's our second scoring option anyway? I like pan key but only If we get chandler too. We need somebody to throw it down too in the half court.
Garrett and Pointer. Im high on both these guys next season
I'm very confident Garrett wil be #2 until Wood is ready. Wood and Harrison are alpha scorers...Garrett is a shade below that in my book. Pointer just doesn't have the ability to create at this point in his career.
I think it says a lot that a kid like Pankey, coming of a 20 mpg freshman year at an ACC school, might not be good enough to play at St. John's.
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Frankly, I think people are projecting Sampson as our number two scoring option, behind D-Lo, but that it will be a very balanced attack.
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Frankly, I think people are projecting Sampson as our number two scoring option, behind D-Lo, but that it will be a very balanced attack.
He'll get his points on putbacks, in transition, some open jumpers, and facing up slower bigs, but I don't think he's the kind of kid you can hand the ball to regularly and say "do something with it." I see it in tiers:
Tier One: Harrison and Wood
Tier Two: Branch, Greene, Sampson, Bourgault
Tier Three: Pointer, Sanchez, Balamou
Tier Four: GG
*Garrett between Tiers One and Two
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Frankly, I think people are projecting Sampson as our number two scoring option, behind D-Lo, but that it will be a very balanced attack.
He'll get his points on putbacks, in transition, some open jumpers, and facing up slower bigs, but I don't think he's the kind of kid you can hand the ball to regularly and say "do something with it." I see it in tiers:
Tier One: Harrison and Wood
Tier Two: Branch, Greene, Sampson, Bourgault
Tier Three: Pointer, Sanchez, Balamou
Tier Four: GG
*Garrett between Tiers One and Two
I thought Sanchez was a good scorer?
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Pankey has very bad shin splints
Okay, thanks.
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Ya boy
Ashton Pankey @AshtonP_30
Yoooo @ItsMeMoMo12
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Ya boy
Ashton Pankey @AshtonP_30
Yoooo @ItsMeMoMo12
Where's the ship coming from?
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Ya boy
Ashton Pankey @AshtonP_30
Yoooo @ItsMeMoMo12
Where's the ship coming from?
If the staff is still recruiting, 1 must be available. Maybe a player wasnt asked back, I have an idea who that may be
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Heard last night it that is going to be a street fight between Iona & Manhattan for Pankey..
Dave - great decription of Pankey's game. I heard last night that his leg issues will keep most big schools away.
I like it - Masiello and Cluess mano a mano...Go get 'em Steve!
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Frankly, I think people are projecting Sampson as our number two scoring option, behind D-Lo, but that it will be a very balanced attack.
He'll get his points on putbacks, in transition, some open jumpers, and facing up slower bigs, but I don't think he's the kind of kid you can hand the ball to regularly and say "do something with it." I see it in tiers:
Tier One: Harrison and Wood
Tier Two: Branch, Greene, Sampson, Bourgault
Tier Three: Pointer, Sanchez, Balamou
Tier Four: GG
*Garrett between Tiers One and Two
I thought Sanchez was a good scorer?
He can put the ball in the basket when he has to, but he was only the fourth or fifth leading scorer for Monroe most games, averaging less than ten points. Monroe played a pretty fast game and had several chuckers...that type of game lends itself to many open court layups/dunks and a ton of putbacks off missed three's. His defensive versatility is made for this zone and he's very athletic in the open court. I'm not sure he'll contribute much in the half court offensively.
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Wow St Johns boosters should really stop contacting Pankey on Twitter.
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Wow St Johns boosters should really stop contacting Pankey on Twitter.
Wow is right. Can't believe I saw that.
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Wow St Johns boosters should really stop contacting Pankey on Twitter.
Who is that dumb?
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isn't that the dude that was good friends with Jarvis?
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I loved Pankeys response. The staff better put that guy on a leash.
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LOL
is that good ol Maven?
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What happened?
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Why do you say he is a St. John's booster? Didn't he work for Big East Network or one of the Sports Networks?
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Why do you say he is a St. John's booster? Didn't he work for Big East Network or one of the Sports Networks?
And an STJ alum. And any alum is considered a booster by NCAA standards.
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That dude is paper bag, booster or not.
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Ya never know, he might try swaying him to Nova. Like another former Johnny
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Tolentine in '89 bre. Tolentine in '89.
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LOL
is that good ol Maven?
What 19 year old wouldn't want to hear from that guy?
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In looking through his twitter feed, there are nuggets such as "SMU should have fired Orsini when he fired Doherty. Never saw an AD so challenged in hiring a coach.Better get someone good w/state of BE". Uh, yeah, what a horrible move by Orsini in firing a guy who went 80-109 in 6 seasons and replacing him with a hall of fame coach. Orsini's mistake was in hiring Doherty in the first place.
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In looking through his twitter feed, there are nuggets such as "SMU should have fired Orsini when he fired Doherty. Never saw an AD so challenged in hiring a coach.Better get someone good w/state of BE". Uh, yeah, what a horrible move by Orsini in firing a guy who went 80-109 in 6 seasons and replacing him with a hall of fame coach. Orsini's mistake was in hiring Doherty in the first place.
And your point is?
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perhaps I misread that, but I read it to mean that he shouldn't have fired Doherty. Or maybe that's just broken syntax due to the maximum 140 characters which twitter allows for, and he meant the opposite
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Visiting Iona and Manhattan this week per Zags. No mention of any other schools
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Visiting Iona and Manhattan this week per Zags. No mention of any other schools
And Fordham
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Visiting Iona and Manhattan this week per Zags. No mention of any other schools
And Fordham
Yea Zags amended his article with an update after I posted that. Thanks!
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This decision is a no brainer imo. A 2013 starting 5 of Sledge,Armand,Parga,Laury and Pankey would be phenomenal
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This decision is a no brainer imo. A 2013 starting 5 of Sledge,Armand,Parga,Laury and Pankey would be phenomenal
Shocked you would say that!
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Is Pankey eligible right away?
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Is Pankey eligible right away?
Won't know for a while, remember how long it took with Mo Mo (I think October)
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Is Pankey eligible right away?
Won't know for a while, remember how long it took with Mo Mo (I think October)
Thanks, but I thought the medical redshirt came into play?
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Is Pankey eligible right away?
Won't know for a while, remember how long it took with Mo Mo (I think October)
Thanks, but I thought the medical redshirt came into play?
I believe Mo Mo had a sick mom, I believe Pankey has the same situation.
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Is Pankey eligible right away?
Won't know for a while, remember how long it took with Mo Mo (I think October)
Thanks, but I thought the medical redshirt came into play?
I believe Mo Mo had a sick mom, I believe Pankey has the same situation.
Mo Mo was grandmother. Pankey is mother.
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Supposedly the Twitter man threw a rant on the the Fordham board which was deleted. Saying he wasn't reaching out to Pankey on behalf of St Johns or Fordham, but actually was warning Pankey about Pecora. Apparently there was a fallout
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Supposedly the Twitter man threw a rant on the the Fordham board which was deleted. Saying he wasn't reaching out to Pankey on behalf of St Johns or Fordham, but actually was warning Pankey about Pecora. Apparently there was a fallout
Link to Fordham board? (even tho you said it was deleted)
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Supposedly the Twitter man threw a rant on the the Fordham board which was deleted. Saying he wasn't reaching out to Pankey on behalf of St Johns or Fordham, but actually was warning Pankey about Pecora. Apparently there was a fallout
Link to Fordham board? (even tho you said it was deleted)
http://fordhamfans.smfforfree.com/index.php/board,2.0.html (http://fordhamfans.smfforfree.com/index.php/board,2.0.html)
Took this from Iona board
"Albano posted a rant on the fordham board that he did not try and contact Pankey on behalf of St. Johns or Fordham. He stated that he wanted to tell Pankey how sinister Pecora is. I guess thats a relationship that went bad. he also referenced the Iona board of being delusional of some posts he saw about him."
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Pankey visited Iona on Tuesday, than canceled his visit to Fordham on Wednesday. Ya boy.
NOt sure about Manhattan visit yet
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AFTER he spoke to Maven. ; )
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
Maryland transfer Ashton Pankey has committed to Manhattan, per a source. #boyshoops
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
Maryland transfer Ashton Pankey has committed to Manhattan, per a source. #boyshoops
Damn. Have to figure he wouldnt get the rock as much at Iona
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
Maryland transfer Ashton Pankey has committed to Manhattan, per a source. #boyshoops
Damn. Have to figure he wouldnt get the rock as much at Iona
He's an ACC transfer. Its Iona. Who's going to get the rock more? The 5th Plumlee? ;D
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
Maryland transfer Ashton Pankey has committed to Manhattan, per a source. #boyshoops
Damn. Have to figure he wouldnt get the rock as much at Iona
He's an ACC transfer. Its Iona. Who's going to get the rock more? The 5th Plumlee? ;D
Momo and Armand are going to dominate the ball, Laury will be the 3rd option come December. PMG said Pankey has a shin problem, might not be suited for the quick pace of Iona
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Baldi you really think that Iona is THAT much more of an attractive option than Manhattan? I don't know what the Jaspers have coming back, but I know people think their coach is going places. I am sure that plus PT, etc, played a role.
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
Maryland transfer Ashton Pankey has committed to Manhattan, per a source. #boyshoops
Damn. Have to figure he wouldnt get the rock as much at Iona
He's an ACC transfer. Its Iona. Who's going to get the rock more? The 5th Plumlee? ;D
Momo and Armand are going to dominate the ball, Laury will be the 3rd option come December. PMG said Pankey has a shin problem, might not be suited for the quick pace of Iona
Lol... Iona still a mid-major dude, regardless of a decent regular season last year.
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Baldi you really think that Iona is THAT much more of an attractive option than Manhattan? I don't know what the Jaspers have coming back, but I know people think their coach is going places. I am sure that plus PT, etc, played a role.
Oh I think Masiello is the best coach in the MAAC, hes going bigtime shortly. George Beamon is a player, could score with a nun. I love Rhamel Brown also.
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
Maryland transfer Ashton Pankey has committed to Manhattan, per a source. #boyshoops
Damn. Have to figure he wouldnt get the rock as much at Iona
He's an ACC transfer. Its Iona. Who's going to get the rock more? The 5th Plumlee? ;D
Momo and Armand are going to dominate the ball, Laury will be the 3rd option come December. PMG said Pankey has a shin problem, might not be suited for the quick pace of Iona
Lol... Iona still a mid-major dude, regardless of a decent regular season last year.
The bar has been set for Baldi and this Iona staff. They missed on Rhoomes and Pankey, plan B Tobe Okafor still in play, if not Im ready to go with what we got. THis Juco Desean Anderson and David Laury are underrated and youll know their names soon enough
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I guess Pankey didnt like that 25 point loss that Iona dropped on his watch
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How come nobody is going after Majok Majok. The kid was reportedly going to put Fairfield and Cooley in the MAAC drivers seat, now that he could be eligible coming out of JUCO nobody wants him? I am surprised Grasso is not chasing him.
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Great job by the Jaspers grabbing Pankey. My former co-worker Matt Grady is an ast at Manhattan so I want to see them do well.
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“@JonRothstein: Manhattan still awaiting word from NCAA on waiver for Maryland transfer Ashton Pankey. Jaspers could dominate MAAC if they add the big man.”
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Jaspers on the rise.....great coach and staff....
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Complete joke this kid wasn't given waiver.
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Complete joke this kid wasn't given waiver.
Transfer eligibility might be the next big scandal to hit the NCAA. We've got investigators getting fired, decisions being renewed. So we're learning the integrity and character of some of these "decision makers" is a murky area.
How much money is it worth to say, an unnamed Oregon booster, to convince some lowly NCAA "investigator" to approve immediate transfer eligibility for someone like Arsalan Kazemi to frontline depleted Oregon (Kasemi pulled down 10.3 rebs as a Rice Junior LAST season, is is saving Oregon's bacon with 9.4 per game THIS year after "immediate eligibility"....
This lack of transparency in these decisions stinks to high heaven.