6th Man of St. John's Basketball
Non-Sport Related Discussion => Red and White Board => Topic started by: pmg911 on February 23, 2016, 02:52:01 PM
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While I think the idea of The Donald as POTUS is very sad for AmerIca - this is funny..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lGH_DvtBEM
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What candidate is good for America?
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What candidate is good for America?
Sad comment but true--in a country of over 300M we get the dregs on both sides
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What candidate is good for America?
Sad comment but true--in a country of over 300M we get the dregs on both sides
Agree. Just dig up George I Can Not Tell A Lie Washington, or Honest Abe already.
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What candidate is good for America?
Someone who is not on the far side of either party... to run the country effectively, you need to be somewhat moderate. No one on the far right or far left can do in today's society.
Honestly.. I don't think any first term Senator is qualified.... any of the Governors that were/are in the race would be good.
Personally, I would have loved Christie and I think if Clinton wins, we will try again in 4 years...
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What candidate is good for America?
Someone who is not on the far side of either party... to run the country effectively, you need to be somewhat moderate. No one on the far right or far left can do in today's society.
Honestly.. I don't think any first term Senator is qualified.... any of the Governors that were/are in the race would be good.
Personally, I would have loved Christie and I think if Clinton wins, we will try again in 4 years...
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
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ABT -Anyone But Trump
I'm an independent...have voted Republican more than not... He is the worst candidate ever..
An embarrassment.
ABT
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
+1000
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
Democatic Socialism is working pretty well in Europe actually. Also, Bernie Sanders does not want to overthrow capitalism any more than FDR or even Eisenhower did. FDR was called a socialist too and his plans would never work in America...
We are trained to automatically think any form of socialism is bad, which is not the case. Deregulated capitalism is what is driving this country into the ground.
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
Democatic Socialism is working pretty well in Europe actually. Also, Bernie Sanders does not want to overthrow capitalism any more than FDR or even Eisenhower did. FDR was called a socialist too and his plans would never work in America...
We are trained to automatically think any form of socialism is bad, which is not the case. Deregulated capitalism is what is driving this country into the ground.
Democratic Socialism - is that different than just regular socialism?
Deregulated Capitalism - seriously? You want even more government oversight?
No one is trained to automatically think socialism is bad... Socialism does that on its own. Factual historical data proves that
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
Democatic Socialism is working pretty well in Europe actually. Also, Bernie Sanders does not want to overthrow capitalism any more than FDR or even Eisenhower did. FDR was called a socialist too and his plans would never work in America...
We are trained to automatically think any form of socialism is bad, which is not the case. Deregulated capitalism is what is driving this country into the ground.
Wrong. Socialism is not working at Europe which is why Greece is broke and none of the other countries want to bail them out. Also, there's a myth that socialism has worked great for Sweden, when in fact if Sweden was to be admitted as the 51st state, it would be the poorest state in the country.
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I hope I don't have to walk you people through Saul Alinsky and his model for bringing the United States to its knees.
Overload the social services budget with welfare and giveaways. Socialize medicine and healthcare reimbursement. Make the masses dependent on the federal government to the point the economy collapses. That's what your boy Barry has been doing the past seven years, in hyperdrive. The increase in food stamps, Barrycare, the ease of ex- workers getting unemployment and social security benefits, the open borders to drive down wages. Social unrest to split the country. Just google Saul Alinsky.
Barry is a Marxist and an enthusiastic follower of the Saul Alinsky Marxist model. His buddy George Soros can't die soon enough.
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
Democatic Socialism is working pretty well in Europe actually. Also, Bernie Sanders does not want to overthrow capitalism any more than FDR or even Eisenhower did. FDR was called a socialist too and his plans would never work in America...
We are trained to automatically think any form of socialism is bad, which is not the case. Deregulated capitalism is what is driving this country into the ground.
Wrong. Socialism is not working at Europe which is why Greece is broke and none of the other countries want to bail them out. Also, there's a myth that socialism has worked great for Sweden, when in fact if Sweden was to be admitted as the 51st state, it would be the poorest state in the country.
Which countries in Europe don't have universal healthcare?
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I hope I don't have to walk you people through Saul Alinsky and his model for bringing the United States to its knees.
Overload the social services budget with welfare and giveaways. Socialize medicine and healthcare reimbursement. Make the masses dependent on the federal government to the point the economy collapses. That's what your boy Barry has been doing the past seven years, in hyperdrive. The increase in food stamps, Barrycare, the ease of ex- workers getting unemployment and social security benefits, the open borders to drive down wages. Social unrest to split the country. Just google Saul Alinsky.
Barry is a Marxist and an enthusiastic follower of the Saul Alinsky Marxist model. His buddy George Soros can't die soon enough.
Man, that was a great post
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
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I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
Democatic Socialism is working pretty well in Europe actually. Also, Bernie Sanders does not want to overthrow capitalism any more than FDR or even Eisenhower did. FDR was called a socialist too and his plans would never work in America...
We are trained to automatically think any form of socialism is bad, which is not the case. Deregulated capitalism is what is driving this country into the ground.
Wrong. Socialism is not working at Europe which is why Greece is broke and none of the other countries want to bail them out. Also, there's a myth that socialism has worked great for Sweden, when in fact if Sweden was to be admitted as the 51st state, it would be the poorest state in the country.
Which countries in Europe don't have universal healthcare?
I'm going to age myself with this response, but I fully believe Bernie needs to win. The Republicans and Conservatives have had their way since 1980. The Democrats have had I think two Presidents in that timespan and the Republican party has gone WAY too far to the right and worse, it's split itself up into way too many demographics. This creates too many potential candidates for the party.
I'm a Bernie Supporter but I'm fully aware he isn't going to make the whole world free. I'm fully aware that he is very, very old. But I believe the Conservative Republicans have stunted our growth by preventing the minimum wage from rising and allowing corporations to not give out enough of what they are taking in and instead keeping most of it for themselves. Our economy has seen short bursts of growth since 1980 but more recessions in that timeframe than from 1940-1970. My expectation for Bernie is to be a one term President, ignite the political fire of my generation, end Citizens United and raise the minimum wage.
I believe his Presidency will do one fundamentally great and important thing. It will split up the Republican party. The Republican party will eat itself apart and people like John Kasich and maybe even Chris Christie will split for the Democratic party or declare as Independents. This will pull the Democrats closer to the middle while pretty much abolishing the Republican Party over the next 4 years. I think you would see the next election be between Kasich-Clinton-O' Mallley and hopefully Rubio splits as well. I think the Republicans would counter with trying to prop up a guy like Bloomberg or being more supportive of Christie and the election being between Kasich-Clinton-O' Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Rubio. I personally hope Rubio switches sides and the race is really Kasich-Rubio-O'Malley and Christie-Bloomberg-Paul.
The problem for the Republican Party is that instead of coming up with a Conservative solution to the problems we have at hand, they deny the problems exist. I think a guy like Sanders needs to win so then both parties get drawn to the middle.
You said the Republican party has gone too far to the right yet support a SOCIALIST. That's funny.
Yes, America need a Socialist president. Socialism has obviously worked so well everywhere in the world. It's amazing this country has been so great for 240 years doing the exact opposite of socialism when socialism is so great.
Democatic Socialism is working pretty well in Europe actually. Also, Bernie Sanders does not want to overthrow capitalism any more than FDR or even Eisenhower did. FDR was called a socialist too and his plans would never work in America...
We are trained to automatically think any form of socialism is bad, which is not the case. Deregulated capitalism is what is driving this country into the ground.
Democratic socialism in Europe is killing the EU economy. The ECB has no choice but to be in negative interest rate territory while expanding expenditures. The answer, as always, is striking the proverbial "right balance". Moderate liberalism in the US is realistically as good a solution as any.
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
You mean like when we taxed the rich at 90% under a Republican president? You are blind to the corporate take over of the country.
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
You mean like when we taxed the rich at 90% under a Republican president? You are blind to the corporate take over of the country.
Time for occupy wall street again. Miss seeing our bright young minds on national TV saying they want shit for free because they deserve it. Handouts baby!!! Line up!!!
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Trump.
Liberals are shaking in their free loafers
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
You mean like when we taxed the rich at 90% under a Republican president? You are blind to the corporate take over of the country.
Time for occupy wall street again. Miss seeing our bright young minds on national TV saying they want shit for free because they deserve it. Handouts baby!!! Line up!!!
So...you're just going to ignore my point that America was successful when Eisenhower raised taxes on the rich to 90%? I wonder why you're choosing to ignore that. Bernie's proposal is far less than that. Nobody "deserves shit for free" but I do believe people have a right to healthcare and education. I can't stand when people complain about food stamps and lazy people "wanting shit for free" but don't make a peep about corporations being biggest welfare recipients out there.
Do you think it's right that 90% of the new income generated in the United States goes to the richest 1/10th of 1%? Is that the successful American system that's been working for 240 years, or are we going off the rails a bit?
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
You mean like when we taxed the rich at 90% under a Republican president? You are blind to the corporate take over of the country.
Except for the fact that nobody actually paid taxes at a 90% rate because there were tons and tons of ways to get around that at that time, way more than now
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Trump.
Liberals are shaking in their free loafers
Bring it on. A Trump/Cruz presidency will make a Progressive president in 2020 inevitable. My prediction is Trump will get steamrolled by Hillary in the biggest landslide in election history. If Trump were somehow able to become president, he would be impeached before he could give his first State of the Union address.
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
You mean like when we taxed the rich at 90% under a Republican president? You are blind to the corporate take over of the country.
Except for the fact that nobody actually paid taxes at a 90% rate because there were tons and tons of ways to get around that at that time, way more than now
Are you kidding me? Many large corporations end up paying NOTHING with all the loopholes.
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Trump.
Liberals are shaking in their free loafers
Bring it on. A Trump/Cruz presidency will make a Progressive president in 2020 inevitable. My prediction is Trump will get steamrolled by Hillary in the biggest landslide in election history. If Trump were somehow able to become president, he would be impeached before he could give his first State of the Union address.
Agree. Hillary wins 35 states vs Trump.
But she's actually more moderate than Obama and way more so than Bernie, who's not operating on planet earth.
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The downside is that she's a liar, compromised by money, and possibly a criminal. Sweet election
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Can someone tell me why they think Hillary will be a good president? What has she done in the past to make you think so?
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
You mean like when we taxed the rich at 90% under a Republican president? You are blind to the corporate take over of the country.
Except for the fact that nobody actually paid taxes at a 90% rate because there were tons and tons of ways to get around that at that time, way more than now
Are you kidding me? Many large corporations end up paying NOTHING with all the loopholes.
Corporate taxes and income taxes are completely different. There are still some loopholes for sure, but literally nobody ever paid anything close to 90% taxes at that time.
In regards to corporations leaving the country to avoid paying high tax rates, why do we villainize the corporations instead of making doing business easier here? There is nothing more destructive to small businesses and the middle class than liberal/progressive policies
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Can someone tell me why they think Hillary will be a good president? What has she done in the past to make you think so?
Lower downside than the other 3 candidates? It's a sorry slate of schmucks running for the Oval Office
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Trump.
Liberals are shaking in their free loafers
Least surprising thing ever. Baldi and Trump
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I don't want him but I will take 4 years of Trump over Hillary Clinton any day of the week...
She is the worst of them all... will do/say anything to get ahead....she has sold her political influence for personal gain for over 25 years... she has no morals...
I mean just the other day she said the United States has not lost any people in Libya... did Benghazi just slip her mind or does she truly believe her own lies.?
The only person left in the race that I would remotely trust is John Kasich.
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Billion dollar companies often end up getting tax refunds. There's no reason why Mitt Romney pays more than half of what I pay in taxes.
And oh for the love of all that is Holy. We are not demanding free shit. We are demanding to have the same opportunities that previous generations had. A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale. Even a part-time summer job. You'd have to work just about every summer from the time you are 5 to pay for a St. John's education on your own.
Germany has free college, Ireland has free college, most of Europe does in fact and it's why most Europe nations are surpassing us in education. It opens up the game to more kids.
Our most prosperous time was when most of our country had college paid for under the GI Bill and we started to build highways and rebuild railroads. It created jobs and opportunities and people knew how to make and fix things because they could pay for the education to learn how to do it.
Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
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Billion dollar companies often end up getting tax refunds. There's no reason why Mitt Romney pays more than half of what I pay in taxes.
And oh for the love of all that is Holy. We are not demanding free shit. We are demanding to have the same opportunities that previous generations had. A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale. Even a part-time summer job. You'd have to work just about every summer from the time you are 5 to pay for a St. John's education on your own.
Germany has free college, Ireland has free college, most of Europe does in fact and it's why most Europe nations are surpassing us in education. It opens up the game to more kids.
Our most prosperous time was when most of our country had college paid for under the GI Bill and we started to build highways and rebuild railroads. It created jobs and opportunities and people knew how to make and fix things because they could pay for the education to learn how to do it.
Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
WW2 brought us out of the Great Depression. The New Deal helped transition out of a wartime economy.
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Billion dollar companies often end up getting tax refunds. There's no reason why Mitt Romney pays more than half of what I pay in taxes.
And oh for the love of all that is Holy. We are not demanding free shit. We are demanding to have the same opportunities that previous generations had. A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale. Even a part-time summer job. You'd have to work just about every summer from the time you are 5 to pay for a St. John's education on your own.
Germany has free college, Ireland has free college, most of Europe does in fact and it's why most Europe nations are surpassing us in education. It opens up the game to more kids.
Our most prosperous time was when most of our country had college paid for under the GI Bill and we started to build highways and rebuild railroads. It created jobs and opportunities and people knew how to make and fix things because they could pay for the education to learn how to do it.
Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
Yep, socialism works great in Europe
https://mises.org/library/greece-illustrates-150-years-socialist-failure-europe
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Billion dollar companies often end up getting tax refunds. There's no reason why Mitt Romney pays more than half of what I pay in taxes.
And oh for the love of all that is Holy. We are not demanding free shit. We are demanding to have the same opportunities that previous generations had. A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale. Even a part-time summer job. You'd have to work just about every summer from the time you are 5 to pay for a St. John's education on your own.
Germany has free college, Ireland has free college, most of Europe does in fact and it's why most Europe nations are surpassing us in education. It opens up the game to more kids.
Our most prosperous time was when most of our country had college paid for under the GI Bill and we started to build highways and rebuild railroads. It created jobs and opportunities and people knew how to make and fix things because they could pay for the education to learn how to do it.
Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale??? WTF... What type of summer jobs were those? Started working summer jobs when I was 15, lucky if I could afford gas and a few drinks based on what I made. Guess I should have worked as a nuclear engineer or private banker in the summers instead. BTW, have you heard of the PIGS in Europe? Ireland is the I in the PIGS their economy is not doing so good, just like the socialist economies of Portugal, Greece, Spain and pretty much all the other socialist governments in Europe that you so desperately want to model after. Sad
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I'm betting on Kasich being the Republican nominee after a contested convention. Think w/ Rubio gone the establishment will throw support behind Kasich and could end up making a big difference. Trump is not quite on pace to win enough delegates, correct?
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I'm betting on Kasich being the Republican nominee after a contested convention. Think w/ Rubio gone the establishment will throw support behind Kasich and could end up making a big difference. Trump is not quite on pace to win enough delegates, correct?
Trump won't get enough delegates. Boehner just supported Paul Ryan
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Billion dollar companies often end up getting tax refunds. There's no reason why Mitt Romney pays more than half of what I pay in taxes.
And oh for the love of all that is Holy. We are not demanding free shit. We are demanding to have the same opportunities that previous generations had. A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale. Even a part-time summer job. You'd have to work just about every summer from the time you are 5 to pay for a St. John's education on your own.
Germany has free college, Ireland has free college, most of Europe does in fact and it's why most Europe nations are surpassing us in education. It opens up the game to more kids.
Our most prosperous time was when most of our country had college paid for under the GI Bill and we started to build highways and rebuild railroads. It created jobs and opportunities and people knew how to make and fix things because they could pay for the education to learn how to do it.
Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale??? WTF... What type of summer jobs were those? Started working summer jobs when I was 15, lucky if I could afford gas and a few drinks based on what I made. Guess I should have worked as a nuclear engineer or private banker in the summers instead. BTW, have you heard of the PIGS in Europe? Ireland is the I in the PIGS their economy is not doing so good, just like the socialist economies of Portugal, Greece, Spain and pretty much all the other socialist governments in Europe that you so desperately want to model after. Sad
Yes a minimum wage summer job used to pay for Yale. Back in the 60s. And as for the person who said the New Deal took us out a wartime economy. The New Deal was implemented in the mid 1930's. Long after World War 1 ended and before World War 2 started. And how do you explain that World War 2 took us out of the Great Depression when Bush put us in two wars and turned a surplus into a deficit?
And isn't it funny how Trump rails against China? Last I checked, China was a Communist country with a planned economy which is associated with Marxist economies.
Now I am in no way advocating communism or even outright socialism. But lack of regulation helped lead to the Great Depression. Deregulation by Clinton and Bush helped lead to The Great Recession. You need a referee to make sure the game is fair. Right now the American Government is Tim Donaghy and the Boston College Point Shaving Team. Capitalism and Socialism can lead to horrendously poor countries and extreme poverty when they are let to run on their own. Capitalism can provide for short booms but huge busts. When they work together in a balance, it creates the most prosperous economy we have ever had. You need Capitalism to promote hard work and opportunity and ambition. You need socialism to provide a safety net. Yes, Socialism is bad when implemented on its own. But Bernie Sanders is not going to come in here and get everything he wants done. Nobody is. FDR didn't. Most of his policies weren't as effective as they could've been because they were blocked or repealed by a Republican Congress. But the money has to be taken out of Politics. The influence major corporations and the extreme wealthy have needs to be stopped.
The minimum wage needs to rise, college needs to be at least affordable. And it's funny because despite my choice in candidate, I'm an Independent and would probably have more success running as a Republican if I was ever to become a politician. The solutions I come up with for those problems tend to lean more on the Conservative spectrum. But that's the problem with the Republicans right now. Instead of finding the conservative solution, they deny the problem exists.
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A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale??? WTF... What type of summer jobs were those? Started working summer jobs when I was 15, lucky if I could afford gas and a few drinks based on what I made. Guess I should have worked as a nuclear engineer or private banker in the summers instead. BTW, have you heard of the PIGS in Europe? Ireland is the I in the PIGS their economy is not doing so good, just like the socialist economies of Portugal, Greece, Spain and pretty much all the other socialist governments in Europe that you so desperately want to model after. Sad
Undergraduate tuition at U Penn in 1965 was $ 3170 per year (that includes room and board, $100 for books and $320 for personal expenses).
Undergraduate tuition at Penn this year is 43800, plus 14000 in room and board and 6000 in fees, $ 63,000 total.
Minimum wage in 1965 was $1.15. $3170 / $1.15 = 2756 hours = 68 weeks. That means a student would have had to work full time for a year and three months to afford a year of Penn.
Today in NY State the minimum wage is 9 per hour. $ 9 x 2756 = 24000. That is exactly in line with inflation. "What cost $3170 in 1965 would cost $24073.76 in 2015."
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi.
But today a student would have to work 7000 hours at minimum wage to afford a year at Penn. That's 175 weeks or about three years.
What the OP does not understand is that the reason that tuition has outstripped inflation and the minimum wage is because of "free" money - it's because the government guarantees student loans. If it didn't no banker in his right mind would lend a pimply faced dope $ 252,000 to get a worthless degree in Art History or Transgendered Anthropology or whatever crap these people are studying. Without government intervention either student loan interest rates would be astronomical or tuition would not have increased at three time the rate of inflation because no one could afford it.
(http://timiacono.com/wp-content/uploads/10-09-05_college_inflation.png)
PS How's my math bitches?
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Trump.
Liberals are shaking in their free loafers
Least surprising thing ever. Baldi and Trump
I'm offended
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Our current economic system has allowed for our elections to be literally purchased by the richest people in the country. 95% of the time, the candidate who has the most money at their disposal wins. And once they buy these elections, they make their own rules and rig the game in their favor at the expense of the average person. If this is a system you believe can succeed, I have a bridge to sell you.
And yes, democratic socialism is different from the socialism you are so afraid of.
Damn right, terrified of it.
Did you seriously just say if this is a system that can succeed? Seems to have worked damn well for a few centuries.
You mean like when we taxed the rich at 90% under a Republican president? You are blind to the corporate take over of the country.
Except for the fact that nobody actually paid taxes at a 90% rate because there were tons and tons of ways to get around that at that time, way more than now
Are you kidding me? Many large corporations end up paying NOTHING with all the loopholes.
Corporate taxes and income taxes are completely different. There are still some loopholes for sure, but literally nobody ever paid anything close to 90% taxes at that time.
In regards to corporations leaving the country to avoid paying high tax rates, why do we villainize the corporations instead of making doing business easier here? There is nothing more destructive to small businesses and the middle class than liberal/progressive policies
Than why were there more small businesses under Liberal/Progressive leaders?
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Trump.
Liberals are shaking in their free loafers
Least surprising thing ever. Baldi and Trump
I'm offended
Impossible. LOL
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Billion dollar companies often end up getting tax refunds. There's no reason why Mitt Romney pays more than half of what I pay in taxes.
And oh for the love of all that is Holy. We are not demanding free shit. We are demanding to have the same opportunities that previous generations had. A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale. Even a part-time summer job. You'd have to work just about every summer from the time you are 5 to pay for a St. John's education on your own.
Germany has free college, Ireland has free college, most of Europe does in fact and it's why most Europe nations are surpassing us in education. It opens up the game to more kids.
Our most prosperous time was when most of our country had college paid for under the GI Bill and we started to build highways and rebuild railroads. It created jobs and opportunities and people knew how to make and fix things because they could pay for the education to learn how to do it.
Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
Ireland shouldnt be an example of anything except nice golf courses,lots of green and great guinness beer and pretty damn good fish and chips at Leo Burdocks
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Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
If you think it was the new deal that got us out of the Great Depression then we have a problem.
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Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
If you think it was the new deal that got us out of the Great Depression then we have a problem.
The New Deal provided relief and social safety nets for the middle class. World War II brought us out of the recession because other countries needed our products. But it's because of the New Deal that the prosperous economy that was a product of World War II was maintained. And it's things like the minimum wage, social security, etc. that made that economy so strong for the 60's. Look what happened when Nixon cut the corporate tax and didn't raise the minimum wage. Carter did nothing as well, but Reagan put the nail in the coffin on the decline of the American Economy.
Somebody above mentioned that we need a moderate. 1000% true. But a moderate will never win in this country because he ends up pissing off both sides. I'm a moderate. My wishes are liberal but my solutions are conservative. But when nobody is willing to compromise. They want their agenda entirely or it's a giant #$%^ you and #$%^ off. Now I know, what I said won't seem believable based on what I've said thus far, but even though I believe college should be free, healthcare should be free, the wealthy shouldn't be paying half of what I pay in taxes, I understand the need for compromise. There are great Presidents on both sides of the aisle just like there's awful Presidents. But this country is just going to have to endure this endless cycle of half the country being angry and annoyed and hypercritical of the current regime and then 4-8 years later, switching perspectives with the next regime. An Independent Moderate is exactly what the country needs. But it's something the country will never witness. Unfortunately, a Trump Presidency is something this country will never need. But it's something we will most likely have to witness.
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Democratic Socialism is what most of Europe has, especially Ireland. It does work. FDR was labeled a socialist as well with the minimum wage, job programs, and most of the New Deal. You know, that little thing that pulled us out of the Great Depression and led to the most prosperous economy America has ever had? That same economy that the Reagan party has destroyed?
If you think it was the new deal that got us out of the Great Depression then we have a problem.
The New Deal provided relief and social safety nets for the middle class. World War II brought us out of the recession because other countries needed our products. But it's because of the New Deal that the prosperous economy that was a product of World War II was maintained. And it's things like the minimum wage, social security, etc. that made that economy so strong for the 60's. Look what happened when Nixon cut the corporate tax and didn't raise the minimum wage. Carter did nothing as well, but Reagan put the nail in the coffin on the decline of the American Economy.
Somebody above mentioned that we need a moderate. 1000% true. But a moderate will never win in this country because he ends up pissing off both sides. I'm a moderate. My wishes are liberal but my solutions are conservative. But when nobody is willing to compromise. They want their agenda entirely or it's a giant #$%^ you and #$%^ off. Now I know, what I said won't seem believable based on what I've said thus far, but even though I believe college should be free, healthcare should be free, the wealthy shouldn't be paying half of what I pay in taxes, I understand the need for compromise. There are great Presidents on both sides of the aisle just like there's awful Presidents. But this country is just going to have to endure this endless cycle of half the country being angry and annoyed and hypercritical of the current regime and then 4-8 years later, switching perspectives with the next regime. An Independent Moderate is exactly what the country needs. But it's something the country will never witness. Unfortunately, a Trump Presidency is something this country will never need. But it's something we will most likely have to witness.
The problem we now faced and the reason why we are so screwed as a country as are most in europe is our financial balance sheet is a #$%^ing mess and you can thank republicans and democrat politicians for this.
I'n an ideal world I'm all for helping everyone out and even though I'm fiscally conservative I have no problem with doing things to help others but in reference to things like social security now vs then ( and I'm very much in favor of it ) but the reality and cold hard truth is demographics. We are running monster budget deficits now and they will get worse and this is with near record low interest rates. Look how many workers there are per person collecting SS. Things are going to get a lot worse. And here we are year by year doing nothing and this isn't even including things like the future cost of healthcare. There is no way we can afford all these new pie in the sky dreams ( and they are admirable ) because taxes are going to have to go higher if interest rates go up just to pay interest on our debt. And this includes zero for new programs so #$%^ free education. When you throw money at a problem it doesn't solve the problem. Get to the root of the problem like the cost of education. Look at housing. Easy money polciices in housing drove prices freaking sky high and put people in houses they can barely afford or have less discretionary income for other things
The american dream as you are fondly trying to remember from the 40's and 50's in over permanently
Rebuliding highways and bridges and roads can be done with gas tax over time but your other programs will never happen and that's mot even being political. We won't be able to afford it in the long term because we are going to have so many other problems
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Here's the way I see it. My solution to the affordable education is this;
Take it out of the graduates paycheck from their job after they graduate. To further explain;
First thing is first, raise the minimum wage to $10 and then every six months raise it $1 until you get to $15. Let small businesses go that duration without having to pay taxes. To counteract this lack of tax revenue, eliminate the tax loopholes for the wealthiest people. Do not raise their taxes but eliminate the loopholes. This should cover the loss of revenue you'd have from allowing small businesses to not pay taxes. On top of that, with the minimum wage going up, you'll receive more in taxes as wages will go up. Spend this money on rebuilding our infrastructure which creates a ton of jobs creating more tax revenue.
As for education, no college student pays while in college. With a large portion working minimum wage jobs from around 14-18 and then through college up until they start working internships, they would be able to save a lot of their money so they have a foundation upon graduating. As for tuition, their tuition is based on their performance in college. Let's say you go to St. John's and the tuition is $35,000 per year. That's $140,000. Divide that by 43 years (22 to 65) and you get $3,256 owed per year. That's $62 per week. BUT! Let's say you get a 4.0 GPA and partake in clubs and societies and what not, you will get 100% of your tuition covered. Let's say you get a 3.5, you get 60-75% paid for depending on how involved in the college you are (i.e. clubs and societies). If you get a 3.0 you get 25-50% depending on how involved you are. Beyond that you owe everything. Now you don't have people defaulting on their loans and ruining their credit, the colleges are still making money, kids aren't in crippling debt and could even donate more to their college. And obviously the burden is less for smaller schools like CUNY and SUNY schools. But this also doesn't discourage somebody from majoring in art or philosophy or whatever because we need those things and they shouldn't be discouraged. I actually think to make it better, the retirement age should be raised to 70 for anybody under the age of 30 (I'm 24 by the way).
I'm no politician nor will I ever be one so this idea is like saying the Mets should trade this player for that player, meaning my opinion wont' change anything. But this is why I have such an issue with conservatives and even liberals. This plan would achieve the liberal goals while providing a conservative solution. You aren't raising taxes, you're creating jobs, you're helping small businesses, and you're building the middle class. But, I'm no expert in anything so I'm sure, like every plan, there are holes. But I believe this is the direction we need to head on. Just my two cents.
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Why has college tuition skyrocketed v inflation? Because of government infiltration. Sallie Mae and other government programs guarantee tuition payments to colleges and universities. Dean Wormer knows he can jack up tuition, knows he can implement new spending programs because Uncle Sam and Joe Taxpayer will pay whatever Dean Wormer asks for. Dean Wormer knows he can get whatever he wants on his wish list simply by admitting more students. The lower income student, the student least likely able to pay for tuition on their own, is the most valuable student. It's like Section 8, the check is deposited with few questions asked. I've seen it first hand at my undergraduate alma mater, Pace University in Pleasantville.
After graduating with a bullshit degree in feelgood illiteracy, an ill prepared student is sent out to the world w a mountain of debt and no real world skills. To stave off collections, they go to graduate school because The Man can't start collecting on the student loans if Frank and Felicia Feelgood are still in school. So, they wrack up more debt at the graduate school level.
Now, they graduate with a masters in Feelgood Illiteracy, and start looking for a job that hopefully pays more than $15/hr. They get Medicaid health insurance, or stay on Mom and Dad's health insurance until age 26. They live at home, period. And, maybe by age thirty figure something out like getting a local, county or federal public sector job. That job, will actually add no growth to the economy because it does not create income. The public sector workers are compensated by tax dollars generated by workers in the private sector. Public sector jobs are paid for by private sector tax dollars.
This brings us back to why we should all vote for Donald J. Trump for President. He is the only candidate with real world experience in the private sector. The only one who understands that is the growth of the private sector that pays for your Universal pre-K, your firemen, your police and teachers and all those other dopey little projects Cuomo, De BlahBlah, Hitlery and Sanders like to talk about. Trump is the only candidate who understands capitalism and the private sector.
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Why has college tuition skyrocketed v inflation? Because of government infiltration. Sallie Mae and other government programs guarantee tuition payments to colleges and universities. Dean Wormer knows he can jack up tuition, knows he can implement new spending programs because Uncle Sam and Joe Taxpayer will pay whatever Dean Wormer asks for. Dean Wormer knows he can get whatever he wants on his wish list simply by admitting more students. The lower income student, the student least likely able to pay for tuition on their own, is the most valuable student. It's like Section 8, the check is deposited with few questions asked. I've seen it first hand at my undergraduate alma mater, Pace University in Pleasantville.
After graduating with a bullshit degree in feelgood illiteracy, an ill prepared student is sent out to the world w a mountain of debt and no real world skills. To stave off collections, they go to graduate school because The Man can't start collecting on the student loans if Frank and Felicia Feelgood are still in school. So, they wrack up more debt at the graduate school level.
Now, they graduate with a masters in Feelgood Illiteracy, and start looking for a job that hopefully pays more than $15/hr. They get Medicaid health insurance, or stay on Mom and Dad's health insurance until age 26. They live at home, period. And, maybe by age thirty figure something out like getting a local, county or federal public sector job. That job, will actually add no growth to the economy because it does not create income. The public sector workers are compensated by tax dollars generated by workers in the private sector. Public sector jobs are paid for by private sector tax dollars.
This brings us back to why we should all vote for Donald J. Trump for President. He is the only candidate with real world experience in the private sector. The only one who understands that is the growth of the private sector that pays for your Universal pre-K, your firemen, your police and teachers and all those other dopey little projects Cuomo, De BlahBlah, Hitlery and Sanders like to talk about. Trump is the only candidate who understands capitalism and the private sector.
Well said
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It strikes me that most people on this board don't have a clue but rule number one is...most people are stupid. The republican candidates are unbelievably unqualified, young senators with minimal experience, a narcissistic businessman, and a governor with a disturbing twitch which doesnt work on TV or across the table with Putin. Hillary is the only one who comes across as presidential and that is scary but true. Bernie is 80% great but the remainder is silly 30s socialism. I'm depressed and may drink more and smoke more health related weed. IM sitting here in Orlando in a Disney suite with my daughter, grandchildren etc on a family vacation drunk, wishing I brought some weed and thinking, liberal that I am, that maybe we should forget about the cruel and unusual punishment deal and bring back hang,draw and quarter with some pig blood down the gullett for terrorists. Just sayin.
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A summer job used to be able to pay for Yale??? WTF... What type of summer jobs were those? Started working summer jobs when I was 15, lucky if I could afford gas and a few drinks based on what I made. Guess I should have worked as a nuclear engineer or private banker in the summers instead. BTW, have you heard of the PIGS in Europe? Ireland is the I in the PIGS their economy is not doing so good, just like the socialist economies of Portugal, Greece, Spain and pretty much all the other socialist governments in Europe that you so desperately want to model after. Sad
Undergraduate tuition at U Penn in 1965 was $ 3170 per year (that includes room and board, $100 for books and $320 for personal expenses).
Undergraduate tuition at Penn this year is 43800, plus 14000 in room and board and 6000 in fees, $ 63,000 total.
Minimum wage in 1965 was $1.15. $3170 / $1.15 = 2756 hours = 68 weeks. That means a student would have had to work full time for a year and three months to afford a year of Penn.
Today in NY State the minimum wage is 9 per hour. $ 9 x 2756 = 24000. That is exactly in line with inflation. "What cost $3170 in 1965 would cost $24073.76 in 2015."
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi.
But today a student would have to work 7000 hours at minimum wage to afford a year at Penn. That's 175 weeks or about three years.
What the OP does not understand is that the reason that tuition has outstripped inflation and the minimum wage is because of "free" money - it's because the government guarantees student loans. If it didn't no banker in his right mind would lend a pimply faced dope $ 252,000 to get a worthless degree in Art History or Transgendered Anthropology or whatever crap these people are studying. Without government intervention either student loan interest rates would be astronomical or tuition would not have increased at three time the rate of inflation because no one could afford it.
(http://timiacono.com/wp-content/uploads/10-09-05_college_inflation.png)
PS How's my math bitches?
+100 like the math, went to Fordham 66-70, 3000 per give or take
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Taking political views and thoughts from a grandfather at disney who is drunk and hoping to score some weed, seems about right for this country today. Lets see Barry was qualified as a community activists who had less appearances then marco on the floor.
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Lets not get too serious, added a bit of Hunter to spice things up
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Taking political views and thoughts from a grandfather at disney who is drunk and hoping to score some weed, seems about right for this country today. Lets see Barry was qualified as a community activists who had less appearances then marco on the floor.
At least he doesn't have a picture of a monkey with glasses as his avatar. That would be the last straw. I mean if politics isn't about making personal judgements on folks lifestyle choices and personal predilections (very Trumpian of you by the way) then what is it about, oh yeah, debating issues. Something you haven't done as of yet.
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I'm betting on Kasich being the Republican nominee after a contested convention. Think w/ Rubio gone the establishment will throw support behind Kasich and could end up making a big difference. Trump is not quite on pace to win enough delegates, correct?
Result of a contested convention will be the birth of a 3rd party next election funded by trump. He has already hinted at it.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/10/a_contested_republican_convention_explained.html
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Yank, topic? First off there isn't a person running that I personally can say I'm 100% percent behind. However there is one person I'm 100% against and that's Hillary