6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: ForeverYoung on April 15, 2014, 08:23:13 PM
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Obekpa is 100% staying and we are very close to have Thomas on board.
I am wondering if Obekpa's decision will impact Thomas.
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what about the top 50 recruits
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what about the top 50 recruits
Briscoe and big D will be dunking over visitor teams in 2015
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
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I dont know about you guys but I never want posters to stop giving scoops. If you dont believe them then just dont believe them.
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
What pot am I stirring? Sharing something beneficial is bothering you?
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Obekpa shouldn't impact Thomas or even another front court recruit one iota. Plenty of minutes at the 4 and 5.
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
What pot am I stirring? Sharing something beneficial is bothering you?
So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
What pot am I stirring? Sharing something beneficial is bothering you?
So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"
No as a sh*t stirrer! How is it clear he has contacts to the program. Hope he is right but he could be the same poster as the one on the other site with a different name who has claimed Briscoe and Diallo are locks for a long time and everyone questions his veracity on the other site.
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
What pot am I stirring? Sharing something beneficial is bothering you?
So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"
Fordham, you`ll always have someone that has to have a comment.
I say if you have a scoop then post it, and when someone has a comment (because there will be that one, or two people that will), I say just laugh.
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
Bizarro Baldi. His scoups are only positive.
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
Bizarro Baldi. His scoups are only positive.
if this guy won mega instead of power ball its definitely bizarro baldi
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
What pot am I stirring? Sharing something beneficial is bothering you?
So now we count people with not only positive news but with someone who clearly has contacts with the program as a "pot stirrer?"
No as a sh*t stirrer! How is it clear he has contacts to the program. Hope he is right but he could be the same poster as the one on the other site with a different name who has claimed Briscoe and Diallo are locks for a long time and everyone questions his veracity on the other site.
Obviously you can never be 100% sure but he doesn't just make assertions. He explains them in detail in many cases.
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Old red in the house?
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I joined this forum last year to discuss, share, and most importantly enjoy SJUBB. Didn't expect to have my attorney on stand by :)
Some of you here are more silly than my kids.
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Lavin to meet with Obekpa this week:
http://zagsblog.com/st-johns/lavin-to-meet-with-obekpa-this-week/ (http://zagsblog.com/st-johns/lavin-to-meet-with-obekpa-this-week/)
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Briscoe and Diallo are very high priority for the staff. Staff has very good relationships with both and personally they are two of my favorites kids. I've known Isaiah since grammar school and I've gotten to know Cheick pretty well since Elite 24. Two high character individuals and would be great Johnnies.
Oh yea love both their games too. I won't count my chickens before they're hatched but it is promising.
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How sweet would that be. Add Govan and we are scrait.
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Briscoe and Diallo are very high priority for the staff. Staff has very good relationships with both and personally they are two of my favorites kids. I've known Isaiah since grammar school and I've gotten to know Cheick pretty well since Elite 24. Two high character individuals and would be great Johnnies.
Oh yea love both their games too. I won't count my chickens before they're hatched but it is promising.
Agree on "promising".
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Great stuff to hear. MIT seemed that things were spiraling for a while. Glad to see a turnaround rather quickly.
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It is so nice to check in and read positive post.
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It is so nice to check in and read positive post.
Where?
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Forever Young are you Baldi's cousin? aka Stir the Pot Jr.?
Bizarro Baldi. His scoups are only positive.
How soon you forget. That was Baldi's gimmick during Norm years. "Kid is coming". Lance, Syl, Kevin Durant, they were all coming. Difference with this is no matter how bad a game coach Lavin is I would never be surprised if anyone came here.
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I joined this forum last year to discuss, share, and most importantly enjoy SJUBB. Didn't expect to have my attorney on stand by :)
Some of you here are more silly than my kids.
Any speculation that there could be any "punishment" involved to prevent the nonsense that occurred last year. Might be something benign like having his teammates vote on allowing him back. Considering he hasn't yet met with Coach, what caused his leaving, and what has happened to change his mind. Sounds very strange to me.
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Any speculation that there could be any "punishment" involved to prevent the nonsense that occurred last year. Might be something benign like having his teammates vote on allowing him back.
He should first be made to watch videos of himself shooting free throws while wearing a hair shirt and then afterwards to write "I will not grin like an imbecile every time I am called for a foul" 100 times on Lavin's white board, lord knows Lavin has no use for it.
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Haha great post
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
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the drama of ST. John's hoops never ends.. we should all know and accept that by now.
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It appears Lavin will probably have a solid nucleus to work with. Let's see what he achieves with that. Go Johnnies!
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Lavin is still the coach, so the drama will continue. That is an unfortunate fact we will have to deal with for as long as he's here.
With that said, Paultz is right on the money. There are some quality pieces in place, and it sounds like we are on the verge of adding other players to fill key roles. All in all things could be worse from a personnel standpoint.
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It appears Lavin will probably have a solid nucleus to work with. Let's see what he achieves with that. Go Johnnies!
Honestly for Lavin's sake was hoping for a 8 man rotation. Does anyone really want to go through revolving rotations, "Just wait until February" nonsense again?
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It appears Lavin will probably have a solid nucleus to work with. Let's see what he achieves with that. Go Johnnies!
Honestly for Lavin's sake was hoping for a 8 man rotation. Does anyone really want to go through revolving rotations, "Just wait until February" nonsense again?
Nope
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
If you are going to "punish" Bluto please make sure you agree on a safe word beforehand
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
If you are going to "punish" Bluto please make sure you agree on a safe word beforehand
If Marillac = Gimp does that make Baldi butch? #PulpFriction #ResortingToHashtagsForCheapLaughs
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
If you are going to "punish" Bluto please make sure you agree on a safe word beforehand
If Marillac = Gimp does that make Baldi butch? #PulpFriction #ResortingToHashtagsForCheapLaughs
Marillac would be Zed and Bluto the Gimp as he is being punished, at least that is how I would interpret it
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
I get fired if I don't show up
But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
I get fired if I don't show up
But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game? I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
I get fired if I don't show up
But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game? I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...
Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
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Come on guys. This is really getting out of hand.
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
I get fired if I don't show up
But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game? I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...
Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
Baldi, you out of all people should know I was joking...the refs do arrive a few hours b4 game time - that is accurate.
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
I get fired if I don't show up
But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game? I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...
Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
Baldi, you out of all people should know I was joking...the refs do arrive a few hours b4 game time - that is accurate.
The refs for sure
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It is so nice to check in and read positive post.
Where?
Just skip any post by Baldi;)
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Come on guys. This is really getting out of hand.
I know. Our coach should have enough respect for his job and the university to at least put in a full day of work.
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Come on guys. This is really getting out of hand.
I know. Our coach should have enough respect for his job and the university to at least put in a full day of work.
i've tried to wade through the last few pages of this thread and understand what you guys are saying. Still struggling.
Would love to get a breakdown of what people are hearing about Lavin and the Prov/NIT games
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Baldi (I think it was him) started a rumor that he supposedly overheard in a Mineola restaurant from a guy who supposedly looked like one of our assistant coaches that Coach Lavin did not show up at halftime of the Providence game and kids were just told to do what they do.
Other posters supposedly believe Baldi's story.
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What's so hard to believe?
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What's so hard to believe?
It's hard to believe that Steve Lavin skipped the opportunity to give the sort of rousing halftime speech that Steve Lavin credits Steve Lavin with having given to turn the season around at halftime of the Georgetown game.
It's hard to believe that no one saw Steve Lavin wandering around Madison Square Garden at halftime, if as you suggest he was not in the locker room.
It's hard to believe that Steve Lavin's assistant coaches were discussing his alleged absence from the locker room in loud voices in a public bar. It's hard to believe a poster purportedly as connected as you cannot identify Tony Chiles by sight. If Tony Chiles were in a bar discussing the alleged absence it's hard to believe that you just happened to be there to hear them.
Other than that it's entirely plausible.
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Another thing I find hard to believe is that Lavin actually gave some direction pre Rob Morris game.
Maybe he's a worse coach than originally thought. I would rather hope he went to beauty salon at half
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Baldi, find another sucker, i don't choose to play your games, but I am going to hate traipsing down to Phillie next year to watch Jordan
Coach Lavin missed halftime because he had a meeting w me to discuss his contract extension. No one can possibly blame him for that. It was my only free time.....free in the sense that I was available. Sorry, gotta go negotiate.
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West Canan won their District tile w/o a coach as Bud Kilmer left at halftime and Injured QB Paul Walker led them to a title.
Norman Dale got throwm out of a game and Drunken Dennis Hopper ran the picket fence for someone other than Hickory's best player and they still won.
Clearly Lavin's assistants suck as they could not do what a Gimpy Paul Walker and drunken Dennis Hopper could.
Time to fire the assistants!!!!!
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West Canan won their District tile w/o a coach as Bud Kilmer left at halftime and Injured QB Paul Walker led them to a title.
Norman Dale got throwm out of a game and Drunken Dennis Hopper ran the picket fence for someone other than Hickory's best player and they still won.
Clearly Lavin's assistants suck as they could not do what a Gimpy Paul Walker and drunken Dennis Hopper could.
Time to fire the assistants!!!!!
It only took Walker ONE take to win District, what's up the SJU staff...Geez!
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What's so hard to believe?
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The source obviously. ;)
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Lavin should be punished too. Since when did college basketball coach become a no show job?
It's one thing for you to repeatedly post your baseless rumors, but to then ask for someone to be punished because of a rumor is over the line.
How would you feel if someone spread a rumor that you didn't show up for schedule shifts or assignments and then later e-mailed everyone that you should be punished without any evidence?
I get fired if I don't show up
But hey, if there is no boss, I probably wouldn't show up either. School hires a president , Lavin decides to start recruiting
Is there truly anybody who knows what transpired in the NIT pre-game? I heard the refs were looking for Lavs too - they could even say hi when they stopped by...
Refs were looking for Lavin before the game? Funny thing is, so were the players
Baldi, you out of all people should know I was joking...the refs do arrive a few hours b4 game time - that is accurate.
Too late...Baldi has already spread the rumor to four guys. Ironically, the same rumor will get back to Baldi in a week and then be set as fact in his mind forever.
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There is a fine line between Rumour and Truth. There sure is a lot of drama. I thought it was over.
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lol
I love how this thread goes from the original poster stating that CO is 100% back, to back to Lavin.
This couldn`t stay on the "Thanks coach Lavin, good luck" thread?
2 questions I have is:
Someone (not Baldi) stated Lavin was gonna be fired this week, guess he didn`t know what he was talking about either.
And didn`t Lavin and CO have a meeting this week? I know Forever said he`s 100% back but why no official word from Lavin himself or atleast SJU? These guys just crack me up.
After this week I`m done being concerned about sju, I come on hoping to see news and it`s the same ole thing.
Going to enjoy the spring and summer, and if Lavin is fired (which I believe if to be the case, that it would have happened by now.) CO stays or goes, and we get any of these transfers then I`ll find out after the summer.
Just getting sick of bs rumors.
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What's so hard to believe?
Damn Son, you just got taken to the cleaners on this page. You are slipping pal.
Time to track down Wormer again, he was more reliable.
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
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Not sure you keep harping on the Robert Morris game? No one... Players, coaches, or fans gave a shit. I think you are the only one that did.
Providence game.. Came out flat in 2nd half and then had a ferocious comeback... Something happened positive there. Then, the Obekpa situation, where he acted like a child and didn't go in.
End of story, end of season, lets move along.
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
Dude, there is a reason no one believes what you post. If you can get about three juicy things correct in a row and you'll get your street cred back. Unfortunately until then, your posts will be passes.
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And I guess since none of us were actually there, one could make the argument that the TGAPL brilliant motivational tactics and strategy spurred that Providence rally.
See, game can be played both ways, when we are all just speculating.
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Not sure you keep harping on the Robert Morris game? No one... Players, coaches, or fans gave a shit. I think you are the only one that did.
Providence game.. Came out flat in 2nd half and then had a ferocious comeback... Something happened positive there. Then, the Obekpa situation, where he acted like a child and didn't go in.
End of story, end of season, lets move along.
Exactly right. No coach, player or fan gave a sht about that NIT game. I was watching. But hey I'm not a fan right? Where was Lavin a half hour before that game? The coach is paid to give a sht!
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This thread has quickly become the suck (par for the course, I guess).
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You want a cookie for watching?
I have no idea where he was and have no reason, besides a story from you ( which are mostly misses), to believe he want exactly where he was supposed to be.
Amazing that none of these unhappy players dropped the dime on a coach not showing up, or beat writers, or assistants, JayOn1, or, well, anyone except for you.
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Baldi , in negotiations regarding contract extension. Examining Jordan's tonsils. Begging CO to play. Where should he have been? Watching the guys stretch!
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You want a cookie for watching?
I have no idea where he was and have no reason, besides a story from you ( which are mostly misses), to believe he want exactly where he was supposed to be.
Amazing that none of these unhappy players dropped the dime on a coach not showing up, or beat writers, or assistants, JayOn1, or, well, anyone except for you.
Wtf . Half the team was about transfer. Or was that a Baldi rumor too? Hopper, who would get time, has left. He's the smartest.
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What's so hard to believe?
Damn Son, you just got taken to the cleaners on this page. You are slipping pal.
Time to track down Wormer again, he was more reliable.
Can I still vote for this for Post of the year? This is the best yet
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
Marco- go ahead and post it. What do you have to lose?
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You want a cookie for watching?
I have no idea where he was and have no reason, besides a story from you ( which are mostly misses), to believe he want exactly where he was supposed to be.
Amazing that none of these unhappy players dropped the dime on a coach not showing up, or beat writers, or assistants, JayOn1, or, well, anyone except for you.
Wtf . Half the team was about transfer. Or was that a Baldi rumor too? Hopper, who would get time, has left. He's the smartest.
If things were as bad as you say they actually would have transferred.
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
Marco- go ahead and post it. What do you have to lose?
He keeps saying it, can't be any worst that what he has been saying for the past month.
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
Marco- go ahead and post it. What do you have to lose?
any residual creditability
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I'd be interested in hearing whatever Baldi heard....
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I'd be interested in hearing whatever Baldi heard....
Pm
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
Marco- go ahead and post it. What do you have to lose?
He keeps saying it, can't be any worst that what he has been saying for the past month.
It can
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dont know why i care, but I read 4 pages of this shit and those crappy pages on obekpa. SAY IT
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Post it or move on. The incessant insinuations are rather weak.
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
Marco- go ahead and post it. What do you have to lose?
He keeps saying it, can't be any worst that what he has been saying for the past month.
It can
Then post it what are you afraid of? If you won't then stop mentioning it.
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He has nothing and the fact is he'll look like an even bigger clown next year when SJU wins 23 plus and is better rounded then this year. Jordan, D'lo in backcourt and CO, Thomas and jones upfront. Phil,Jamal and Dom off bench and possibly Horford as well as a young 6'11 guy who can be brought along.
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Leave Baldi alone. If it bothers you, just ignore him.
I go back and forth with him because it amuses me. It's quite obvious he gets off on STJ turmoil. Fan or not, it's bizarre behavior.
He will never admit he's wrong.
Also, you guys are really annoying Mkras...threads being " the suck" are not cool.
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Mate, I've never seen such shite! This is worse than the EastEnders here.
He met him in a pub...
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Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter ::)
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Nah son. Dis place mad funny. Hail to the Throne
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Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter ::)
Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter ::)
Never understood why some are afraid to post what really goes on. If the person who told you the info wanted it a secret, why would they even mention it. Some sort of sick enabling, while the program rots
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Baldi,
Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?
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Baldi,
Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?
Like what? Jordan taking a few weeks off to visit mom? Please
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Can this thread be retired and shipped to Hall of Shame?
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Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter ::)
Thing that bothers me the most is posters who say they have sources and post things. Those who have sources are reluctant to ever post what they hear as it may piss off the source. I know people, hear things, talk privately about it with my friends, but never post what I hear. On the other hand, at least the BS source posts/rumors may for good message board chatter ::)
Never understood why some are afraid to post what really goes on. If the person who told you the info wanted it a secret, why would they even mention it. Some sort of sick enabling, while the program rots
I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.
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Of course they are. Guess we will never know
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Baldi,
Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?
Like what? Jordan taking a few weeks off to visit mom? Please
Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
So what really happened?
(Note: there have been other posts where you talk about not posting all the info you were given, but I didn't feel like digging, so I picked the most recent)
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Baldi will tell us when the Easter Bunny comes. The EB is coming this Subday.
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Baldi,
Now aren't you one of those people whose too afraid to post things that really go on?
Like what? Jordan taking a few weeks off to visit mom? Please
Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
So what really happened?
(Note: there have been other posts where you talk about not posting all the info you were given, but I didn't feel like digging, so I picked the most recent)
Maybe we can hear from the posters who sources are always right
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If someone hears something from a reliable source, I would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge. I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source. I just don't like when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is. If you're not willing to say what the information is, then stop making the veiled references. It isn't fair to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging. Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
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If someone hears something from a reliable source, I would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge. I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source. I just don't like when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is. If you're not willing to say what the information is, then stop making the veiled references. It isn't fair to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging. Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
Yes. I also was thinking about this - unless we know the full context of the story, the person sharing it, while sharing a fact that is true, may not have the full context of what transpired leading up to that moment.
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Too bad you guys won't know the truth as to what happenned during those last 2 games. I will say this, it's worse than what I posted. It's a shame, I wish other guys would post their scoop
So what really happened?
(Note: there have been other posts where you talk about not posting all the info you were given, but I didn't feel like digging, so I picked the most recent)
Maybe we can hear from the posters who sources are always right
Never understood why some are afraid to post what really goes on. If the person who told you the info wanted it a secret, why would they even mention it. Some sort of sick enabling, while the program rots
We can hear from you. You said you have knowledge of what really happened those last two games. That it was worse than what you posted. If you know it was worse, then you know what happened. So rather than be afraid to post it, or try and get someone else to do so, why not post it? I can only think of two reasons, neither of which are flattering. So which is it?
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You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.
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You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.
He was never going anywhere, period.
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If someone hears something from a reliable source, I would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge. I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source. I just don't like when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is. If you're not willing to say what the information is, then stop making the veiled references. It isn't fair to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging. Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.
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If someone hears something from a reliable source, I would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge. I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source. I just don't like when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is. If you're not willing to say what the information is, then stop making the veiled references. It isn't fair to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging. Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.
And you are still reacting....
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If someone hears something from a reliable source, I would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge. I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source. I just don't like when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is. If you're not willing to say what the information is, then stop making the veiled references. It isn't fair to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging. Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.
And you are still reacting....
Just a little Public service announcement. I'm replying to you but it doesn't mean I take anything you say anymore seriously. It pains me to see posters still taking you seriously.
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I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.
The key as I see it is to get mjmaher drunk and pump him for info, because him and tr are buddies. ;D
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You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.
Let's talk at this time next year.
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If someone hears something from a reliable source, I would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge. I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source. I just don't like when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is. If you're not willing to say what the information is, then stop making the veiled references. It isn't fair to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging. Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.
And you are still reacting....
Just a little Public service announcement. I'm replying to you but it doesn't mean I take anything you say anymore seriously. It pains me to see posters still taking you seriously.
And it continues...
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I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.
The key as I see it is to get mjmaher drunk and pump him for info, because him and tr are buddies. ;D
LOL !!!
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You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.
Let's talk at this time next year.
I'm sure that's what you are hoping for.
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You gentlemen who think Lavin is going to walk away or get fired are delusional.
Maybe that`s true.
But if no NCAA appearance next year, and no Briscoe and Diallo, then I would say that he`s gone after next year.
After next year they have to either extend him or fire him, or would anyone here think that he coaches his final year without an extension? SJU wouldn`t do that would they?
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If someone hears something from a reliable source, I would like them to post it, even with the caveat that it was coming from a source and not from personal knowledge. I don't even ecpect them to reveal the source. I just don't like when someone makes vague reference to something happening in the locker room but they won't say what it is. If you're not willing to say what the information is, then stop making the veiled references. It isn't fair to the coaches, the players, or even the other posters that you leave hanging. Then it just leads people to belive that it is untrue and that the poster is just pot-stirring.
+1. But people have to understand, Baldi is batting about .100 when it comes to his predictions/inside info actually coming to fruition. So I encourage all posters to take everything he says for what it's actually worth at this point. Zero. He's basically guessing/hoping. I'm really not sure how there are still posters that think he is being serious. If people stopped taking him so seriously, I bet he'd stop posting BS. He posts it for the reactions.
And you are still reacting....
Just a little Public service announcement. I'm replying to you but it doesn't mean I take anything you say anymore seriously. It pains me to see posters still taking you seriously.
And it continues...
:)
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Still waiting on your response Marco Baldi...
Are you afraid to post your information, or were you lying when you said you had more of it?
Or are you just going to avoid answering the question because you don't want to admit either....
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As the expression goes he is full of it or is that $hit
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I can tell you that the things I hear are usually true. It's not my place to make it public.
The key as I see it is to get mjmaher drunk and pump him for info, because him and tr are buddies. ;D
Too funny
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Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.
As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.
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Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.
As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.
I post what I hear. I may expand on it and put in my own 2 cents, but I don't make this crap up to stir the pot. And you're right, not having a president has set the basketball program back yet again.
What's your take on Lavins actions those last 2 games? Especially leading up to the NIT?
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Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.
As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.
I post what I hear. I may expand on it and put in my own 2 cents, but I don't make this crap up to stir the pot. And you're right, not having a president has set the basketball program back yet again.
What's your take on Lavins actions those last 2 games? Especially leading up to the NIT?
What actions?
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d'angelo reading our boards:
Dangelo Harrison @DangeloHarrison
Nothing but motivation!! #UnfinishedBusiness pic.twitter.com/IiQPRsMhz5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BluQFogCQAEKs2j.jpg:large
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Baldi, not taking a shot at you but why do you post all these rumors and 99% of the time they don't come to fruition? Just wondering.
As for Lavin, he wasn't going anywhere with no President on the job. I can't say that those who are important to the University were not VERY concerned with the direction of the program. He is still in a tough spot in my opinion to get an extension or at least some security.
I post what I hear. I may expand on it and put in my own 2 cents, but I don't make this crap up to stir the pot. And you're right, not having a president has set the basketball program back yet again.
What's your take on Lavins actions those last 2 games? Especially leading up to the NIT?
Hey Baldi, you post what you hear? Does this include talking to yourself?
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d'angelo reading our boards:
Dangelo Harrison @DangeloHarrison
Nothing but motivation!! #UnfinishedBusiness pic.twitter.com/IiQPRsMhz5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BluQFogCQAEKs2j.jpg:large
The funny part is that that was a sarcastic comment, Mainman is a huge Dee supporter.
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I would say Thomas to SJU is 90% done deal. There is 1 school that's making a serious push to change his mind. Stay positive boys
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I would say Thomas to SJU is 90% done deal. There is 1 school that's making a serious push to change his mind. Stay positive boys
Funny, because I only came up with 88.64% on Thomas committing to SJU. I guess my algorithm for calculating bullsh!t percentages for what's inside a recruit's head isn't the same as yours.
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Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class. You guys will be pleasantly surprised!
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Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class. You guys will be pleasantly surprised!
Let's hope...
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Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class. You guys will be pleasantly surprised!
Let's hope...
Most will, some will pretend...
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Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class. You guys will be pleasantly surprised!
We get recruits. We just need someone to coach them.
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Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class. You guys will be pleasantly surprised!
Hope you're right FY. That would be a nice jolt of enthusiasm.
I also know you don't want to hear this, but I'm hoping one of coach's next steps is a shakeup of the staff. They might be great guys, but the results haven't been there. And if adjustments are going to be made, that's a place to start.
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Thomas on board!
Coaches next step is concentrating on the 2015 class. You guys will be pleasantly surprised!
Hope you're right FY. That would be a nice jolt of enthusiasm.
I also know you don't want to hear this, but I'm hoping one of coach's next steps is a shakeup of the staff. They might be great guys, but the results haven't been there. And if adjustments are going to be made, that's a place to start.
I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
As opposed to other coaches, who use a lottery system.
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The staff as itself has changed almost by itself almost every year. This year will the first time since Lavin's 1st year that SJU will have a head coach and asst coach for a whole year.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
First choice or not, I hear Chiles is an excellent recruiter and very well received by recruits.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
Perhaps he is referring to "Slice" being Lav's first choice as main recruiting guy prior to Chiles assuming role.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
Perhaps he is referring to "Slice" being Lav's first choice as main recruiting guy prior to Chiles assuming role.
I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
Perhaps he is referring to "Slice" being Lav's first choice as main recruiting guy prior to Chiles assuming role.
Were either even interviewed?
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I don't know enough to form an opinion, but what is the perception of Whitesell around the program?
Is he being given a big enough role?
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
Yes he was. The entire staff was CHOSEN by Lavin. Let's be clear even if you were not the first choice that does not mean Lavin did not want you or CHOOSE you.
Let's differentiate:
1) There are schools that insist on staff changes and also veto candidates. In those cases you can argue certain assistants were FORCED on a coach.
2) Then there are coaches who have free reign to make staff changes even if your first choice says no.
Slice and Book Richardson were widely considered as well but both said no. It happens. BTW-In 2008 Slice, while still at Manhattan, was offered a spot on Memphis' staff by Calipari. He said no and stayed at Manhattan. His spot went to Josh Pastner. So what? Does that mean because Pastner was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked by Calipari? That doesn't make any sense. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of not being handpicked.
The SJU staff is fine. We have good recruiters, a well seasoned top assistant in Jim Whitesell and throw in Keady. Nothing wrong with the staff.
This is on Lavin. He knows it.
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I'm not trying to stir the pot by saying this, but seriously, what the hell does Keady do?
It's not my money, but it really does seem like he's pulling a paycheck simply so Lavin can pull out the Buddha quote two or three times per season.
And I know I'm not the only person on here who has been questioning this.
Fordham, Is Whitesell a big contributor to game prep and in practices?
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I'm not trying to stir the pot by saying this, but seriously, what the hell does Keady do?
It's not my money, but it really does seem like he's pulling a paycheck simply so Lavin can pull out the Buddha quote two or three times per season.
And I know I'm not the only person on here who has been questioning this.
Fordham, Is Whitesell a big contributor to game prep and in practices?
I hope it was Whitesell's idea to scrape the match up zone defense. The defense where they never matched up and left open shooters.
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I think it was Whitsell's idea to scrap the matchup zone. Huge problem in my opinion is the head coach thought it was a good idea.
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I'm not trying to stir the pot by saying this, but seriously, what the hell does Keady do?
It's not my money, but it really does seem like he's pulling a paycheck simply so Lavin can pull out the Buddha quote two or three times per season.
And I know I'm not the only person on here who has been questioning this.
Fordham, Is Whitesell a big contributor to game prep and in practices?
I hope it was Whitesell's idea to scrape the match up zone defense. The defense where they never matched up and left open shooters.
If true, then that alone means he earned his keep. That matchup zone was the worst of both worlds. Gave up penetration, and left shooters open.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Fordham - as always you are correct. Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him
Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?
Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Fordham - as always you are correct. Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him
Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?
Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order. As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part. ;D
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Fordham - as always you are correct. Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him
Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?
Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order. As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part. ;D
Honestly - that is great response
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Fordham - as always you are correct. Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him
Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?
Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order. As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part. ;D
Honestly - that is great response
Your analogy truly parallels the decision making process. None of us ever stop at the first choice for many items/people in our lives.
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Speaking of decisions (Millitary Decision Making Process) that's for you BBall), is time that we change the name of this thread since after eight pages the drama is still not over? Change it to future BB decisions, or what other future changes need to be made moving ahead.
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Thanks for the segue Nudginator. With the staff no longer in pursuit f Ryan Martin is our roster set? Is Jay Henderson definitely prepping? Do we look for another big via transfer/JUCO or do we hold off the remaining ship for 2015-16? Most importantly, are we comfortable to go to war next year with this roster?
I think that we're explosive and very deep at this point. I'd like more depth at the F/C, but I'm not uneasy. Then again, adding an instant scorer or added rebounding wouldn't hurt before the Spring Signing period ends.
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Thanks for the segue Nudginator. With the staff no longer in pursuit f Ryan Martin is our roster set? Is Jay Henderson definitely prepping? Do we look for another big via transfer/JUCO or do we hold off the remaining ship for 2015-16? Most importantly, are we comfortable to go to war next year with this roster?
I think that we're explosive and very deep at this point. I'd like more depth at the F/C, but I'm not uneasy. Then again, adding an instant scorer or added rebounding wouldn't hurt before the Spring Signing period ends.
I'd like to add a wing that can score but I'm doubtful there are any in the cards for us. Not many left on the board.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Fordham - as always you are correct. Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him
Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?
Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order. As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part. ;D
I have 4 brand new tailored suits sitting on my suit rack that have been unused since I bought them 5 months ago. I don't even know why I haven't worn them yet. And they probably fit better than my others that I wear..
What the hell does that say other than I wasted a bunch of money. lol
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Just an FYI, all the CAPS just make people think you're yelling and generally that isn't a great way to get your point across. You make some fair points but you'd get further without all the CAPS.
This goes for everyone writing in CAPS does not stress your point, it just stresses everyone reading it.
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I didn't put the whole post in caps just a certain phrase or word for emphasis.
I would agree with your point if the entire post was capitalized.
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I agree with Dave; I generally ignore posts with multiple "all CAPs" phrases. At a quick glance it denotes an emotional post which therefore is likely to be too subjective to be worthwhile
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To be fair, that wasn't Fordham's post. Using caps to occasionally highlight something is fine. But I have never been a member of the Internet blog police.
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Using caps to occasionally highlight something is fine.
No, caps and exclamation points are relied upon by hack writers to disguise their inability to persuade readers by logic and rhetoric.
But I have never been a member of the Internet blog police.
Good one.
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Fordham - as always you are correct. Just because he was not Coach Lavin's first or second choice for the job doesn't mean Coach Lavin didn't want him
Just curious - if you go into a suit store and look around and ask the sales person for suit #1 and he/she tells you they don't have it in your size, then you pick suit #2 - and get the same response - and then you pick suit #3 because it is available in your size and you need a suit - would you say you really got the suit you wanted..?
Enjoy the rest of your day, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone today...
That's correct, because 5 suits, heck 10 suits can meet our criteria for passing muster for a purchase, and we merely go in order. As in anything in life, timing (whether the suit is available), need and pricing play a part. ;D
I have 4 brand new tailored suits sitting on my suit rack that have been unused since I bought them 5 months ago. I don't even know why I haven't worn them yet. And they probably fit better than my others that I wear..
What the hell does that say other than I wasted a bunch of money. lol
MJ- good stuff. I think your vetting process was a little weak, and you took on more suits than allowed by NC2A, I mean business, needs. lol
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Thanks for the segue Nudginator. With the staff no longer in pursuit f Ryan Martin is our roster set? Is Jay Henderson definitely prepping? Do we look for another big via transfer/JUCO or do we hold off the remaining ship for 2015-16? Most importantly, are we comfortable to go to war next year with this roster?
I think that we're explosive and very deep at this point. I'd like more depth at the F/C, but I'm not uneasy. Then again, adding an instant scorer or added rebounding wouldn't hurt before the Spring Signing period ends.
I'd like to add a wing that can score but I'm doubtful there are any in the cards for us. Not many left on the board.
Nick Faust is there for 2015 if we're willing to wait for a guy who needs to be the center of the offense. He's been secretly whining about it for three years.
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"No, caps and exclamation points are relied upon by hack writers" - foad
^ ha
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I totally agree with you but doubt that we will see that unless someone pressures Lavin to do so. He hand picked them.
He might have hand picked Dunlap & Rico Hines but Tony Chiles was certainly not his first choice
Odd because he was the first assistant named to the staff.
You might think it was odd but Lavin offered that #1 recruiting spot to at least 2 other people before he offered it to Chiles.
and just because Chiles was named first doesn't mean he was the first person Lavin had an agreement in place with to join the staff.
That was never the question or the point. Not being the first choice is not the equivalent of NOT BEING handpicked.
The question was is this staff Lavin’s handpicked staff? Is this the staff HE WANTS? The answer is Yes.
Your post implied because Tony Chiles was NOT the first choice that somehow he was not handpicked or wanted. Whether you meant that or not you can explain, but if you did not mean that then your response is completely irrelevant to the question of whether his current staff was handpicked or not.
Mike Dunlap was not the first choice either for the chair next to him. That was actually Dave Letaio if you remember. So what? Nobody is going to argue that Dunlap or Whitesell weren’t guys Lavin ultimately chose.
Just an FYI, all the CAPS just make people think you're yelling and generally that isn't a great way to get your point across. You make some fair points but you'd get further without all the CAPS.
This goes for everyone writing in CAPS does not stress your point, it just stresses everyone reading it.
I disagree, a word or two here or there capitalized is used as a way to emphasize the word. Alternatively one could bold it. While reading a post where caps are used on one or two words , I don't think the poster has some disorder where he interchanges between talking normally and yelling haphazardly; I realize he is using caps for emphasis.
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ALL of you CLOWNS need to RELAX -
LAVS has everything on LOCK DOWN.
My cousin's SISTER boyfriends AUNT saw LAVS at 31 FLAVORS last night and he said Thomas was a BEAST.
BALDI & PMGo F yourself - I forgot more about the RED STORM then either of you NOBODYS ever knew.
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Did SCOTCH steal PMG's login??
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ALL of you CLOWNS need to RELAX -
LAVS has everything on LOCK DOWN.
My cousin's SISTER boyfriends AUNT saw LAVS at 31 FLAVORS last night and he said Thomas was a BEAST.
BALDI & PMGo F yourself - I forgot more about the RED STORM then either of you NOBODYS ever knew.
LOL. Every now and then I need one of those "posts".
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I can't believe we are discussing the proper way to use caps. I mean really do people really get upset with caps?? If that's the case I feel sorry for them.
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Jordan is confident...
blackjesus @____whynot 3m
9 more month my family will be set #ipromise
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Suits, suits, I don't care about any stinking SUITS!
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So let me get this straight ....we start the season expecting to be an NCAA team: lose our first 5 conference games consecutively, lay an egg with our season on the line against Xavier, look terrible in our conference tournament game against PC, and get embarrassed in the NIT.
Now, Lavin signs his worst class since he's been here, and people want to change the title of this thread?
Don't get me wrong, I hope our backcourt is elite, and can carry us while Jones, Thomas, Dom, and Obekpa collectively play meaningful roles. I want that to happen.
But why would you guys think we're out of the woods? Because he signed Delarosa and a JUCO ? Did you miss the collapse?
Do you not Jordan, Obekpa, and Harrison?
The drama is far from over. When/if we sign Briscoe and Diallo, and have a solid season. Then the program will be on more solid footing. But I think there is a less than 10% chance that we sign both of them and make the NCAAs this coming season.
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For me, and I think most of us, watching Rysheed play last year was the highlight of the season. The guy showed flashes of outright brilliance. My excitement for next year lies in seeing what he does as a sophomore. In my opinion, the drama is "finally over" if Rysheed plays a full year and proves that he's one of the best point guards in the NCAA. If that's the case, I don't see why NCAA will be out of the question.
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So let me get this straight ....we start the season expecting to be an NCAA team: lose our first 5 conference games consecutively, lay an egg with our season on the line against Xavier, look terrible in our conference tournament game against PC, and get embarrassed in the NIT.
Now, Lavin signs his worst class since he's been here, and people want to change the title of this thread?
Don't get me wrong, I hope our backcourt is elite, and can carry us while Jones, Thomas, Dom, and Obekpa collectively play meaningful roles. I want that to happen.
But why would you guys think we're out of the woods? Because he signed Delarosa and a JUCO ? Did you miss the collapse?
Do you not Jordan, Obekpa, and Harrison?
The drama is far from over. When/if we sign Briscoe and Diallo, and have a solid season. Then the program will be on more solid footing. But I think there is a less than 10% chance that we sign both of them and make the NCAAs this coming season.
The title said the drama is finally over, which clearly it isn't after 9 pages.
-The hope is that Jordan will get better quicker and and start off better then last year. Hopefully there is no more personal drama and any attitude or issues with Lavin are over with.
-The same goes with CO, by coming back to SJU his attitude should be different and if he wants to jump to the NBA he will need a no drama season. If he can continue to improve on his offense he can be a threat down low which will free up Jordan and Harrison. This also may help absorb the missed points with Sampsons departure.
Thomas and Diallo can be better team additions. Hopefully Thomas' rebounding skills carry over to D-1, and he continues willing to do the dirty work. Diallo is a big body and by just being in the middle should help the team...Hopefully he is also willing to do the dirty work.
-Whitesell will have a full year to implement a system and this should help tremendously.
-Who is that walk on that is supposedly a great 3pt shooter? We do not burn any scholarships and he is probably more athletic then hooper. If he does slightly better that is a bonus.
-Losing God'sgift and Sanchez hurt, but Sanchez was not the player we thought he was an he never really banged bodies. Besides losing big bodies how big of a loss are they...I am honestly asking?
-Can SirDominic play any worse...He has to play better right?
-I think Harrison will do everything in his power to make the tournament.
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The walk on Myles Steward is described as a streaky shooter and will be a frosh. Hooper was in his third year and was a steady shooter. maybe Steward can develop but let's not rely on a walk on frosh.
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The walk on Myles Steward is described as a streaky shooter and will be a frosh. Hooper was in his third year and was a steady shooter. maybe Steward can develop but let's not rely on a walk on frosh.
Is Myles Steward more atheltic and will he be able to keep up with D-1 players.
He defiantly can be a diamond in the rough. Couldn't Hooper be considered a streaky shooter or was it he didn't play enough to get comfortable in game situations?