6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Poison on March 03, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
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There's a lot of talk on this board that isn't about this game.
A victory will put us at 10-7, with a chance to finish the BE at 11-7.
We won't have Branch, and that's a tough loss, especially after he played so well against Georgetown. Another guard needs to take his place. I don't think Balamou can handle the ball well enough to full that void. I know this is going to sound crazy, but I wonder if Lipscomb might comtrubute a few minutes here and there? He doesn't have to take over a game, but he can handle the ball, and he can pass pretty well, too.
I think we'll find a way to win regardless of what rotation we use.
I really like the way everyone is playing right now, and I expect D'Angelo to bounce back and have a big game.
STJ 76, Marquette 63
Harrison with 25, and 9 boards. Pointer with 19 and 9. Greene 15 and 5. Obekpa 7 and 10 with 5 blocks.
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Marquette is a tough place to play. With Harrison not at 100% all our games are tough. Just want a win...dont care how it looks.
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Marquette was a tough place to play. It will be again but not with their current team. No excuses Gotta win.
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Carlino's Way - 71
Carlito's Way - 69
How can this extended run of good fortune continue? We are St. John's after all.
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In many ways the playoff start now. If we lose here it could start a serious trend for SJUbto get back on the bubble. NOVA would be really tough and then if we lose in the first round of the BET we would have three straight loses heading to selection Sunday. This is a big game.
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Take care of business tonight and we're in, no questions asked. Lose tonight, and it opens up that window of doubt.
Very tough place to play. However, I'm hoping this team continues playing at a high level and showing it's veteran maturity. If they do, they should win by 5-10 pts.
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I just hope the team isn't looking past tonight's game. We might be off the bubble for now but no need to test our credentials with a bad loss tonight considering we could easily not get another win until selection Sunday. Branch being out isn't great. Not sure if Harrison is physically able to get his average stat line yet. Jordan needs to step up and play smarter with the ball. I think we win an ugly game.
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Just win
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Must win so there is no pressure during Nova and BET.
STJ - 66
Marq - 61
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We will come out ready, as the kids know this one seals the deal. D-Lo is due for a big game and Pointer and Sheed continue to roll. Contributions from AMar, Felix, ADR and Stewart if they zone us.
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Great opportunity to approach the game in a businesslike fashion. Not playing with house money but also not playing with back against wall pressure to win to get in like last year. Interested in seeing a sr team take control from the opening tip and playing with a lead all game while answering the Quette runs with smart basketball plays on the floor and sidelines.
Blue-68
Yellow-58
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Marquette was a tough place to play. It will be again but not with their current team. No excuses Gotta win.
The Garden was a tough place to play in March when Norm Roberts was the coach. Kids play for pride.
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Look no further then the Creighton and Nova game last night for example of how tough road games can be. If we come out flat at all we can easily lose this game. I think we matchup pretty well against Marquette so I like our chances but if the guys have one eye on Nova we can lose and creep back towards the bubble. Idt the seniors will let that happen though and we pull away down the stretch.
SJU 74
MU 61
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Marquette has a really short bench like we do....that removes a disadvantage we usually have.
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So what's the injury report look like?
No Branch;
Dangelo on the mend?
Obekpa should be nearing 100%. He's been moving well lately.
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Marquette was a tough place to play. It will be again but not with their current team. No excuses Gotta win.
The Garden was a tough place to play in March when Norm Roberts was the coach. Kids play for pride.
They would play one big game a year at the garden . Georgetown, West Virginia , or Syracuse would kill us.
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Marquette was a tough place to play. It will be again but not with their current team. No excuses Gotta win.
The Garden was a tough place to play in March when Norm Roberts was the coach. Kids play for pride.
They would play one big game a year at the garden . Georgetown, West Virginia , or Syracuse would kill us.
How about the years when we knocked Gtown and Uconn to the NIT in 09 and 10?
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SJ - 73
Marq - 69
Wojo Team Floor slaps - O/U 5
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Marquette was a tough place to play. It will be again but not with their current team. No excuses Gotta win.
The Garden was a tough place to play in March when Norm Roberts was the coach. Kids play for pride.
They would play one big game a year at the garden . Georgetown, West Virginia , or Syracuse would kill us.
How about the years when we knocked Gtown and Uconn to the NIT in 09 and 10?
you guys are right those were great years. Going to the garden was a lot of fun.
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NY post has it as a Pickem for tonight.
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Things that will offset our injuries: not senior night--they play DePaul Saturday; lousy team doesn't motivate folks to show up for a mid week night game on a very cold night. Go Vincentians Beat Jesuits
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Let's go boys
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Is this game tonight? 9:10 and FS1 is still showing highlights. Lets get this show on the road
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Is this game tonight? 9:10 and FS1 is still showing highlights. Lets get this show on the road
yeah. this sucks. exhausted now. I am going to get so excited wont be able to go to bed
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place is empty
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Annoying that jerseys look similar on TV.
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Last time we wore red?
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom was given all the PT he could have possibly wanted his 4 years here. I'm happy to see him taking advantage of it.
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom had more of an opportunity than Hardy before their senior years.
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom was given all the PT he could have possibly wanted his 4 years here. I'm happy to see him taking advantage of it.
Dom Started 1 game last year
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom was given all the PT he could have possibly wanted his 4 years here. I'm happy to see him taking advantage of it.
Dom Started 1 game last year
But he had minutes
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom was given all the PT he could have possibly wanted his 4 years here. I'm happy to see him taking advantage of it.
Dom Started 1 game last year
But he had minutes
21 per game
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom was given all the PT he could have possibly wanted his 4 years here. I'm happy to see him taking advantage of it.
Dom Started 1 game last year
But he had minutes
21 per game
His minutes dwindled as the season went on because he was not producing.
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harrison still struggling. probably still injured
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Way too many 3s
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom was given all the PT he could have possibly wanted his 4 years here. I'm happy to see him taking advantage of it.
Dom Started 1 game last year
But he had minutes
21 per game
You ever get tired of griping about ish unnecessarily baldi?
Sirdom has gotten a ton of game time as a Johnny. Jakarr was a better offensive player than him but perhaps played too selfishly. Sirdom sounds like he didn't have enough confidence on offense and not because of anyone but himself. Some guys take longer to come into their own. Gimme a break dude.
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
Hardy was pretty amazing but that was mostly due to PT. Also not as big a leap as Dom.
Both should have had more of a role before their senior years
Dom was given all the PT he could have possibly wanted his 4 years here. I'm happy to see him taking advantage of it.
Dom Started 1 game last year
But he had minutes
21 per game
You ever get tired of griping about ish unnecessarily baldi?
Sirdom has gotten a ton of game time as a Johnny. Jakarr was a better offensive player than him but perhaps played too selfishly. Sirdom sounds like he didn't have enough confidence on offense and not because of anyone but himself. Some guys take longer to come into their own. Gimme a break dude.
Like Hardy. Who someone else brought up. Like you say, some guys take longer
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Been looking forward to this game since I left Saturday. This is supposed to be fun. I am not enjoying this.
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Been looking forward to this game since I left Saturday. This is supposed to be fun. I am not enjoying this.
Were you expecting an easy win?
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I knew this game was going to be ugly. Really like Jordan's game tonight
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hoping
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No more techs
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Phil Greene becoming a deadeye
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What is going on with Harrison, and don't say injury
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What is going on with Harrison, and don't say injury
He's clearly off. Residue from injury. Why can't that be it?
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What is going on with Harrison, and don't say injury
He's clearly off. Residue from injury. Why can't that be it?
It's Baldi. There's always more to the story.
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Just had a big bound
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There's harrison.
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Need him to shake it off in games like this
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I think Carlino is the same age as Louie
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Jordan looks great. Harrison not so much
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we should be up more. Jordan with a good game so far. harrison, not sure what's going on.
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Blow these suckers out
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Thought we played a poor offensive half. Still scored 34 points. Also up 7 on road without much from Harrison. Hope he gets hot in second half. Dont want to concede anything Saturday.
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Carlino is frustrated/hurt. We gotta take advantage. Bury them early.
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Carlino is frustrated/hurt. We gotta take advantage. Bury them early.
Translation: "Sweep the leg!!!!"
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Yo where's Roscoe
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dom flopped but good shot by harrison
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dom flopped but good shot by harrison
When a guy on offense puts his hand on a defender and extends, ESP when he's bigger, I would never call that a flop...
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Shots just not falling tonight like they were on Saturday. Gonna have to grind this one out.
Also, not sure that backcourt violation was the correct call. Wasn't that ball tipped by MU before Jordan got possession?
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I wish Tarik Turner would improve like Dom has
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I like Tarik. Almost like a home town announcer.
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I like Tarik. Almost like a home town announcer.
Almost?
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Pass the ball, Pointer. Damn! We're on the cusp of blowing this wide open, if we hit easy shots and play smarter.
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Marquette isnt very good. But they aren't terrible either.Never thought the conference would be this good.
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Harrison starting to pick it up here in the 2nd half has been the difference. Need him to get going again.
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Marquette isnt very good. But they aren't terrible either.Never thought the conference would be this good.
What
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You can't read my poor typing or you don't agree? I don't think Marquette is that bad. They are last in the Big East.
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You can't read my poor typing or you don't agree? I don't think Marquette is that bad. They are last in the Big East.
You said Marquette isnt very good, but not terrible either. Just confused
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Can't believe St. John's is 2nd in the Big East in 3 point shooting. It's true.
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the massive problem with this team is depth...branch out, so Alibegovic is playing...wow
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Can't believe St. John's is 2nd in the Big East in 3 point shooting. It's true.
No kidding.
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the massive problem with this team is depth...branch out, so Alibegovic is playing...wow
I wonder why no Felix tonight.
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the massive problem with this team is depth...branch out, so Alibegovic is playing...wow
I wonder why no Felix tonight.
yeah that's weird, if only just to have a 7th body
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Noticed this for a while now - our offensive ball movement and sets are generally worlds better than they were last season and basically ever since Dunlap left. I assume this is due to whitehead having been here 2 years now and the guys really being comfortable w everything (and prob lavin being comfortable with it too), but head coach deserves credit for it when he'd be criticized if it was the reverse.
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Phil Greene has done nothing but hit huge shots all year. Very underrated
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the massive problem with this team is depth...branch out, so Alibegovic is playing...wow
I wonder why no Felix tonight.
Think he should have played a few minutes. Just to give rest
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Can't believe St. John's is 2nd in the Big East in 3 point shooting. It's true.
No kidding.
Wouldn't have believed that in the first half, but their shooting well now.
When this team is in sync they are fun and dangerous...They can be the darlings of the tournament if they can be more consistent and get into the right bracket.
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Luke Fischer is God awful
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We're playing some sloppy ball. This game should clearly be over at this juncture.
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This game is over, get Harrison out
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Luke Fischer is God awful
LOL
I think our length and athleticism is affecting him.
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This game is over, get Harrison out
Not yet. Leave him in for another two minutes.
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Phil Greene has done nothing but hit huge shots all year. Very underrated
He has been super clutch.
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This game is over, get Harrison out
Not yet. Leave him in for another two minutes.
Don't feel comfortable with a lead less than 12.
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the massive problem with this team is depth...branch out, so Alibegovic is playing...wow
I wonder why no Felix tonight.
Think he should have played a few minutes. Just to give rest
He played too much, IMO, against G'town, but can't get any burn tonight.
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Wow! Harrison! He shot that from Chicago.
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Wow! Hes back
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Get them out
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good 2nd half by dlo
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Jordan! That's ballgame!
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empty bench
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Argggh! Obekpa came up a bit lame on that one. He's in pain, too. Damn!!!!
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Why oh why
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Good game Guys
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Three point shooting is now a strength.
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Argggh! Obekpa came up a bit lame on that one. He's in pain, too. Damn!!!!
Damn...looks like he re-aggrivated that foot injury.
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Going to enjoy selection Sunday
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGxusvUT3k
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Great game by the boys. You know this was going to be ugly with Marquette's style, coming off the big Gtown win, a few guys banged up, shorter rotation and after playing so well on Saturday. And we still blew them out. Great to see D-Lo come alive in the second half and of course Sheed continuing to ascend.
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nice win, took care of business. beat villanova and you can really improve your seeding
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
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Great win and real team effort.
A win against nova and we are in running for a 5/6 seed.
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
Totally understand your point. But if we beat Nova were easily a 6 seed and a good run in the BET could put us in a 5 seed. Lavin and staff have a lot to think about going into Nova.
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
Im with you PR, this was a satisfying win, and sealed up an ncaa bid.
if it would benefit them I would consider resting dangelo and chris.
and no way would I let branch play.
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Great win and real team effort.
A win against nova and we are in running for a 5/6 seed.
I don't want a 5 seed and we play a dangerous 12 seed who can shoot the sh*t out of the ball.
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Rest no one. Not the message you send . Huge game Saturday.
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Arghhhh had the game DVRd and accidentally saw the final result on Facebook!!!!
Going to watch it anyway. Looks like a good effort from the score. Lock for the tourney now.
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Great win and real team effort.
A win against nova and we are in running for a 5/6 seed.
I don't want a 5 seed and we play a dangerous 12 seed who can shoot the sh*t out of the ball.
SJUvs Gaels. I would jump out the window
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Three constants in life...death, taxes, and Otis looking like a nice person at the end of the day.
Nova football still not D-1A...Wojo not the golden boy no matter how well he can pen a letter to fans or do an ice bucket challenge...and Sugar Steve Lavin giving Johnnies fans all over the world dance lessons yet again!
I feel like Izzy, Pulispher, and Wilson just threw back-to-back-to back shutouts in the actual majors.
Thank you Otis!
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Let me be clear - if everyone is feeling good, I want to play to win on Saturday of course. My comment only had to do with guys who are clearly injured and can benefit from the rest - Obekpa to a degree, Branch, and possibly D-Lo (though he looked okay tonight).
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Great win and real team effort.
A win against nova and we are in running for a 5/6 seed.
I don't want a 5 seed and we play a dangerous 12 seed who can shoot the sh*t out of the ball.
Eh well run midmajors off the floor. It's the big conference teams with good athleticism and size I'm more worried about.
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Marillac, otis doesn't post here and you've mentioned him 3 times in the span of 10 mins, in 3 different threads.
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nice performance. Sheed continues to improve. Form on jumper so much better than early in the year. If he continues to shoot outside well we will be really dangerous in the torney. Tough to guard 3 high caliber jump shooters.
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Marillac banging back a six pack of ice cold Zimas tonight!
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Great win and real team effort.
A win against nova and we are in running for a 5/6 seed.
I don't want a 5 seed and we play a dangerous 12 seed who can shoot the sh*t out of the ball.
SJUvs Gaels. I would jump out the window
Gaels will get Northern Iowa to show contrasting styles--committee likes to do that
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Great win and real team effort.
A win against nova and we are in running for a 5/6 seed.
I don't want a 5 seed and we play a dangerous 12 seed who can shoot the sh*t out of the ball.
SJUvs Gaels. I would jump out the window
Gaels will get Northern Iowa to show contrasting styles--committee likes to do that
Ya they love banging mids against each other ride away
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Marillac, otis doesn't post here and you've mentioned him 3 times in the span of 10 mins, in 3 different threads.
Desco, the "man" is the worst troll on either board. He deserves every bit of this. He is a nasty, miserable guy that has taken cheap shot after cheap shot at Lavin due to some personal issue and has gone out of his way to praise nearly every other coach in the conference...including Wojo--who, quite honestly, could not have done any worse this season.
All during what likely will be our best season in 15 years.
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
People forget David Cain who went from a basic non entity for hos first 3 years to a first teamer in the Big East as a senior. That year he was a court general who made Mahoney Coach of year in Big East. His performance was totally unexpected and he was not a highly recruited player from HS.
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Looks like team will have to go straight to Philly with the snow. They will probably be stuck in Midwest tomorrow.
Tonight must have been similar to the "Wonder 5". Great job by the guys!!!!
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Great job by Rysheed. He's be excellent lately...not taking too much. All of his shots were good shots that I saw tonight...got to step into all of them from deep and nothing off the bounce. D was good...always good on the boards. I hope the staff is staying in his ear with positive reinforcement because we are so much tougher to beat when he plays team first ball.
Dom didn't bring the points and had some wild shots, but he was amazing in all other areas.
Amar needs to stay closer to his man on D...really just scratching the surface of what he can offer. When he starts getting regular touches (next season) he'll open some eyes I believe. He works his arse off on screens...sets screen after screen every possession and is actually a b*tch to get around.
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Great win. Finally believe we are a lock. I sort of want a 6-7 seed and I think a win at Nova could do that.
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
Give it a half, maybe even 30 minutes to see how close of a game it is. If Nova is on with its shooting and has a double digit lead for much of the game, you opt to fight for another day and put in the reserves and give them the minutes.
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
Give it a half, maybe even 30 minutes to see how close of a game it is. If Nova is on with its shooting and has a double digit lead for much of the game, you opt to fight for another day and put in the reserves and give them the minutes.
#1 thing is to come out healthy. We don't have the 2010-2011 bench.
We're in and there is no question. As long as we don't find ourselves as an 8/9 in Kentucky's region, two wins will be very possible regardless if we are a 5 or 9 seed.
Our next two games are @ Nova (#5 RPI) and a neutral court game against Butler (#25) or Providence (#23). A Nova win is just a cherry on top of an already good sundae.
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
Give it a half, maybe even 30 minutes to see how close of a game it is. If Nova is on with its shooting and has a double digit lead for much of the game, you opt to fight for another day and put in the reserves and give them the minutes.
I would do the same. Confidence gained by beating Nova would go a long way. If the game isn't close, put all the subs in.
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Pointer might be the most improved player in the history of SJU. Can anyone think of a player that has improved more than Dom in the span of one year?
People forget David Cain who went from a basic non entity for hos first 3 years to a first teamer in the Big East as a senior. That year he was a court general who made Mahoney Coach of year in Big East. His performance was totally unexpected and he was not a highly recruited player from HS.
I don't think that's true. I could be wrong, but I think he was a highly regarded recruit. Lou didn't bring in many fillers.
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
Give it a half, maybe even 30 minutes to see how close of a game it is. If Nova is on with its shooting and has a double digit lead for much of the game, you opt to fight for another day and put in the reserves and give them the minutes.
#1 thing is to come out healthy. We don't have the 2010-2011 bench.
We're in and there is no question. As long as we don't find ourselves as an 8/9 in Kentucky's region, two wins will be very possible regardless if we are a 5 or 9 seed.
Our next two games are @ Nova (#5 RPI) and a neutral court game against Butler (#25) or Providence (#23). A Nova win is just a cherry on top of an already good sundae.
Looks pretty likely barring a massive upset in the BET that Nova will meet the 4/5 winner(St Johns looks likely for this) so St Johns may very well get another crack at Nova next week at MSG. If Nova does a number on St Johns in Philly, it will only fuel the seniors who were relegated to the bench to go after Villanova to not let that happen again.
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Also I know people want to beat Nova, but I would strongly consider resting certain guys depending on how banged up they are, or at least limiting the minutes.
Give it a half, maybe even 30 minutes to see how close of a game it is. If Nova is on with its shooting and has a double digit lead for much of the game, you opt to fight for another day and put in the reserves and give them the minutes.
#1 thing is to come out healthy. We don't have the 2010-2011 bench.
We're in and there is no question. As long as we don't find ourselves as an 8/9 in Kentucky's region, two wins will be very possible regardless if we are a 5 or 9 seed.
Our next two games are @ Nova (#5 RPI) and a neutral court game against Butler (#25) or Providence (#23). A Nova win is just a cherry on top of an already good sundae.
Looks pretty likely barring a massive upset in the BET that Nova will meet the 4/5 winner(St Johns looks likely for this) so St Johns may very well get another crack at Nova next week at MSG. If Nova does a number on St Johns in Philly, it will only fuel the seniors who were relegated to the bench to go after Villanova to not let that happen again.
More reason to rest Branch.
Try to get Amar 15-20 minutes and get him some touches inside. We'll need him.
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Congratulations to Phil Greene IV for passing Carmine fave Paris "Hilton" Horne to move into 31st place on the St. John's University all-time scoring list.
Mr. Horne was a key component of the 2010/11 Norm recruited team that Hollywood and Dunlap took to the dance in their first season in Queens. He leaped tall buildings in a single bound; he ran like a gazelle; he shot well from 3; he scored inside too; defended great; once shot 12 for 13 against Rutgers; and had an uncanny knack for securing offensive rebounds off of missed free throw attempts.
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We went from 0 and 3 and 2 and 6 to 10 and 7 in conference. Just a remarkable turnaround. :)
Very unique box score with 4 starters playing 40 minutes.
Both teams shot a Cyoish combined 16 for 35 from the line.
Nova game is Saturday at 1200 and our BE tourney game is Thurs. at 2:30. We can go for the win with this much time to recuperate.
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If they don't play all out to win Saturday the players will and should revolt. These guys have fought to hard to quit . This is not a throw away game.
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Marillac, otis doesn't post here and you've mentioned him 3 times in the span of 10 mins, in 3 different threads.
Desco, the "man" is the worst troll on either board. He deserves every bit of this. He is a nasty, miserable guy that has taken cheap shot after cheap shot at Lavin due to some personal issue and has gone out of his way to praise nearly every other coach in the conference...including Wojo--who, quite honestly, could not have done any worse this season.
All during what likely will be our best season in 15 years.
Wojo is in year 1 and has a top 5 recruit going to Marquette next year. Dude doesn't deaerve to be killed. He will be a good but not great coach.
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Marquette thoughts: http://www.bigeastboards.com/
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Marquette thoughts: http://www.bigeastboards.com/
Best one yet. tarik Turner lol
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Even without his shot falling, dom was so dangerous in the middle of the zone with his ability to hit that mid-range jumper and his ability to slash and his ability to find the open jump shooter. Dom in the middle is the key if we get zoned in the tourney. He was a little sloppy last night but still so much fun to watch.
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
I agree. Specifically w DLO and Chris still injured. Playing DLO 40 min a game is a recipe for prolonging his injury.
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Need to clean up the foul shooting. Has been fairly poor over the last couple (Xavier and Marquette). Will likely be a difference maker in Big East and NCAA
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
I agree. Specifically w DLO and Chris still injured. Playing DLO 40 min a game is a recipe for prolonging his injury.
DLO and Chris have been cleared to play, they should play. Coach has done a tremendous job slowly ramping up the minutes. We have a 6 man rotation. Amar will be good, but he struggles defensively. The players need to be prepared to play 40 minutes, you don't do that by resting them 5-10 minutes because "they need a blow". Outside of foul trouble, they need to play the entire game.
As a side note, I read all the criticisms of Lavin and it really starts with the level of basketball acumen of the poster. Just because some of you may not understand why Lavin does what he is doing doesn't mean coach doesn't know what he is doing. Maybe, just, maybe, he knows a little more than any of us.
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
I agree. Specifically w DLO and Chris still injured. Playing DLO 40 min a game is a recipe for prolonging his injury.
DLO and Chris have been cleared to play, they should play. Coach has done a tremendous job slowly ramping up the minutes. We have a 6 man rotation. Amar will be good, but he struggles defensively. The players need to be prepared to play 40 minutes, you don't do that by resting them 5-10 minutes because "they need a blow". Outside of foul trouble, they need to play the entire game.
As a side note, I read all the criticisms of Lavin and it really starts with the level of basketball acumen of the poster. Just because some of you may not understand why Lavin does what he is doing doesn't mean coach doesn't know what he is doing. Maybe, just, maybe, he knows a little more than any of us.
I couldn't agree more on last segment about coach knowing more than us... Especially the timeout thread. Hysterical... Last night was a good example of one of his timeouts when the cameras were in the huddle. Lavin was explaining how his timeout was used to the players explaining that his time out along with the TV timeout coming up would give the players about 5 minutes of rest. That's exactly what one poster just said "give the players a 5-10 min rest to bring in others off bench." Why bring in other players less talented to just give rest when team is winning? Lavin used a timeout strategically to give players rest and resume play fresh without missing a beat. I think i have read every possible complaint from people outside of where players are sitting on plane or bus on road trips.
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I stick up for Lavin all the time. However, he does a lot of dumb shit.
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
Needed this win to guarantee a Bid. I think Lavin could not take any chances and so played it like a must in with 4 guys playing 40. Good move on his part. Did not need a bad loss. Everyone expects a loss at Nova, if we win just icing on the cake. At this point we are in no matter what.
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thursday is most likey not sold out. ticketmaster or stubhub. Wont be expensive
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Right now, six center sections in the 100's are $200 plus.....on vivid, stubhub.....
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
I agree. Specifically w DLO and Chris still injured. Playing DLO 40 min a game is a recipe for prolonging his injury.
DLO and Chris have been cleared to play, they should play. Coach has done a tremendous job slowly ramping up the minutes. We have a 6 man rotation. Amar will be good, but he struggles defensively. The players need to be prepared to play 40 minutes, you don't do that by resting them 5-10 minutes because "they need a blow". Outside of foul trouble, they need to play the entire game.
As a side note, I read all the criticisms of Lavin and it really starts with the level of basketball acumen of the poster. Just because some of you may not understand why Lavin does what he is doing doesn't mean coach doesn't know what he is doing. Maybe, just, maybe, he knows a little more than any of us.
It's strange how all the other programs in the country don't settle for a 5 or 6 man rotation this time of year. Every team should just play their 5 or 6 best players until they drop. Why redshirt or recruit players if you can't find 5 minutes for them to play after 3 seasons?
Just because players are cleared, doesn't mean much. Competitors will always push themselves to the limit to win. Did you not see Obekpa come up hobbling late in the 2nd half?
Ramping up the minutes? The same five or six guys have been getting the majority of the minutes all season. It took him 1/3rd of a season to start giving Amar any minutes at all.
I don't pretend to know more than the coach. He knows his players, but the coach isn't devoid of criticism. He isn't devoid of mistakes, and he has an agenda (for lack of better terms) to win. You ever think maybe, just maybe he feels pressure to win? I don't ... but then again, my acumen obviously isn't up to snuff.
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the massive problem with this team is depth...branch out, so Alibegovic is playing...wow
I wonder why no Felix tonight.
Lavin thinking of redshirting him or he didn't have a good week of practice? :)
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For the last several games, until last night, Coach Lavin was mixing in other players to spell the main six.
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...maybe because of injuries and/or foul trouble.
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What is going on with Harrison, and don't say injury
He's clearly off. Residue from injury. Why can't that be it?
When his shots are falling he is healthy, when he is missing he is hurt.
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
After last game: The marquette game is a toss up. After we beat Marquette by 16: They played lousy. No pleasing some people.
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
I agree. Specifically w DLO and Chris still injured. Playing DLO 40 min a game is a recipe for prolonging his injury.
DLO and Chris have been cleared to play, they should play. Coach has done a tremendous job slowly ramping up the minutes. We have a 6 man rotation. Amar will be good, but he struggles defensively. The players need to be prepared to play 40 minutes, you don't do that by resting them 5-10 minutes because "they need a blow". Outside of foul trouble, they need to play the entire game.
As a side note, I read all the criticisms of Lavin and it really starts with the level of basketball acumen of the poster. Just because some of you may not understand why Lavin does what he is doing doesn't mean coach doesn't know what he is doing. Maybe, just, maybe, he knows a little more than any of us.
I couldn't agree more on last segment about coach knowing more than us... Especially the timeout thread. Hysterical... Last night was a good example of one of his timeouts when the cameras were in the huddle. Lavin was explaining how his timeout was used to the players explaining that his time out along with the TV timeout coming up would give the players about 5 minutes of rest. That's exactly what one poster just said "give the players a 5-10 min rest to bring in others off bench." Why bring in other players less talented to just give rest when team is winning? Lavin used a timeout strategically to give players rest and resume play fresh without missing a beat. I think i have read every possible complaint from people outside of where players are sitting on plane or bus on road trips.
Won't lie I was impressed he had it so calculated down to when he took the timeout and mapped it out with TV timeouts. He was very well prepared.
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
After last game: The marquette game is a toss up. After we beat Marquette by 16: They played lousy. No pleasing some people.
I enjoy watching Saint John's play basketball. I enjoy writing my little spoofs afterwards. Often in my spoofs I give the games a figurative thumb's down because the play has made me unhappy. Then you read the spoofs - and evidently commit them to memory - and afterwards give them a literal thumb's down because they make you unhappy.
The difference seems to be that I'm enjoying what I'm doing and you're doing something that make you unhappy, either that or you're made happy by being negative about something that brings others joy. I freely admitting getting off on other people's misery. What's your excuse?
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
After last game: The marquette game is a toss up. After we beat Marquette by 16: They played lousy. No pleasing some people.
I enjoy watching Saint John's play basketball. I enjoy writing my little spoofs afterwards. Often in my spoofs I give the games a figurative thumb's down because the play has made me unhappy. Then you read the spoofs - and evidently commit them to memory - and afterwards give them a literal thumb's down because they make you unhappy.
The difference seems to be that I'm enjoying what I'm doing and you're doing something that make you unhappy, either that or you're made happy by being negative about something that brings others joy. I freely admitting getting off on other people's misery. What's your excuse?
Keep writing. If you enjoy it great. If others do too even better. If they don't who cares.
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
After last game: The marquette game is a toss up. After we beat Marquette by 16: They played lousy. No pleasing some people.
I enjoy watching Saint John's play basketball. I enjoy writing my little spoofs afterwards. Often in my spoofs I give the games a figurative thumb's down because the play has made me unhappy. Then you read the spoofs - and evidently commit them to memory - and afterwards give them a literal thumb's down because they make you unhappy.
The difference seems to be that I'm enjoying what I'm doing and you're doing something that make you unhappy, either that or you're made happy by being negative about something that brings others joy. I freely admitting getting off on other people's misery. What's your excuse?
Keep writing. If you enjoy it great. If others do too even better. If they don't who cares.
I find joy in the guys currently going 8-1 in this stretch when most board members thought 7-3 would be hard. Win or lose at Villanova, 8-2 has been achieved. All should give credit where it's due.
There are many silver linings to find in all these wins. If some dont see it, they're blind or barely looking.
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
After last game: The marquette game is a toss up. After we beat Marquette by 16: They played lousy. No pleasing some people.
I enjoy watching Saint John's play basketball. I enjoy writing my little spoofs afterwards. Often in my spoofs I give the games a figurative thumb's down because the play has made me unhappy. Then you read the spoofs - and evidently commit them to memory - and afterwards give them a literal thumb's down because they make you unhappy.
The difference seems to be that I'm enjoying what I'm doing and you're doing something that make you unhappy, either that or you're made happy by being negative about something that brings others joy. I freely admitting getting off on other people's misery. What's your excuse?
Well, it's not committed to memory; you post them on one continuous stream so when I scrolled down (seeing if there was any more) I saw that line in the previous game post. I assure you, i don't have the memory nor the motivation to memorize what you write. However, be happy to know I do read most of your recaps. That would be the point of you writing them, so good on you. I enjoy your writing style for the most part, just not the vitriol you spew.
I find it interesting that you seem to know what makes me happy and what makes me unhappy. Since you asked, my perspective is that I pity people who seem to be unable to find joy in anything, especially a game. If the recaps are truly a spoof, and not your apparent frustration and anger at the world (now I'm pretending to know something about you), then I guess that pity is misplaced. That being said, everyone gets off on other people's misery (schadenfreude) to some degree. We're 21-9, and I can only recall one "thumbs up" post after a game - but perhaps my memory is off.
All that psychobabble being said, I can understand the jaded point of view. After all, we are St. John's. It would just seem to be more beneficial to enjoy the good moments while they're here, rather than simply focus on everything bad that has happened and will continue to happen. Differing life philosophies I suppose.
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First I would like to congratulate the team on a hard fought win. Dom is so great on defense.
I just am bothered by the lack of substitutions. They looked exhausted. I know depth is bad, and Branch is hurt, but can't you give these guys a blow with someone like Felix here and there?. Villanova is just around the corner, then the BE tourney and Lavin needs to find some rest for these guys. They won by 16, and I know it wasn't really a blowout, but Lavin can't find 5-10 minutes for anyone other than Amar? Probably too late in the season to be preaching this, but I found it more frustrating than normal last night.
I agree. Specifically w DLO and Chris still injured. Playing DLO 40 min a game is a recipe for prolonging his injury.
DLO and Chris have been cleared to play, they should play. Coach has done a tremendous job slowly ramping up the minutes. We have a 6 man rotation. Amar will be good, but he struggles defensively. The players need to be prepared to play 40 minutes, you don't do that by resting them 5-10 minutes because "they need a blow". Outside of foul trouble, they need to play the entire game.
As a side note, I read all the criticisms of Lavin and it really starts with the level of basketball acumen of the poster. Just because some of you may not understand why Lavin does what he is doing doesn't mean coach doesn't know what he is doing. Maybe, just, maybe, he knows a little more than any of us.
It's strange how all the other programs in the country don't settle for a 5 or 6 man rotation this time of year. Every team should just play their 5 or 6 best players until they drop. Why redshirt or recruit players if you can't find 5 minutes for them to play after 3 seasons?
Just because players are cleared, doesn't mean much. Competitors will always push themselves to the limit to win. Did you not see Obekpa come up hobbling late in the 2nd half?
Ramping up the minutes? The same five or six guys have been getting the majority of the minutes all season. It took him 1/3rd of a season to start giving Amar any minutes at all.
I don't pretend to know more than the coach. He knows his players, but the coach isn't devoid of criticism. He isn't devoid of mistakes, and he has an agenda (for lack of better terms) to win. You ever think maybe, just maybe he feels pressure to win? I don't ... but then again, my acumen obviously isn't up to snuff.
If a player needs a rest because its effecting his play on the floor that's one thing, but to pull him just to give him some rest is not what you want to do if your preparing them to play 40 minutes. There are many teams that use a short rotation, we played one last night. Its not because they want to use a short rotation, its because the other players are not good enough. Nothing wrong with criticism, there have been things that I may not have agreed with Lavin on and feel he could have done a better job recruiting last year. However, this notion that he can't coach is nonsense, imo.
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
After last game: The marquette game is a toss up. After we beat Marquette by 16: They played lousy. No pleasing some people.
I enjoy watching Saint John's play basketball. I enjoy writing my little spoofs afterwards. Often in my spoofs I give the games a figurative thumb's down because the play has made me unhappy. Then you read the spoofs - and evidently commit them to memory - and afterwards give them a literal thumb's down because they make you unhappy.
The difference seems to be that I'm enjoying what I'm doing and you're doing something that make you unhappy, either that or you're made happy by being negative about something that brings others joy. I freely admitting getting off on other people's misery. What's your excuse?
Keep writing. If you enjoy it great. If others do too even better. If they don't who cares.
I like em. Even with nary one going by without my favorite player getting lambasted.
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Great job by Rysheed. He's be excellent lately...not taking too much. All of his shots were good shots that I saw tonight...got to step into all of them from deep and nothing off the bounce. D was good...always good on the boards. I hope the staff is staying in his ear with positive reinforcement because we are so much tougher to beat when he plays team first ball.
Dom didn't bring the points and had some wild shots, but he was amazing in all other areas.
Amar needs to stay closer to his man on D...really just scratching the surface of what he can offer. When he starts getting regular touches (next season) he'll open some eyes I believe. He works his arse off on screens...sets screen after screen every possession and is actually a b*tch to get around.
Granted, However, Amar's mistake in guarding is (most of the time) not getting off his feet when trying to block a shot. That's why he keeps getting called for fouls. He could take a page from Obekpa and Pointer on how to block without fouling. They're both poetry in motion and could have been ballet dancers.
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Great job by Rysheed. He's be excellent lately...not taking too much. All of his shots were good shots that I saw tonight...got to step into all of them from deep and nothing off the bounce. D was good...always good on the boards. I hope the staff is staying in his ear with positive reinforcement because we are so much tougher to beat when he plays team first ball.
Dom didn't bring the points and had some wild shots, but he was amazing in all other areas.
Amar needs to stay closer to his man on D...really just scratching the surface of what he can offer. When he starts getting regular touches (next season) he'll open some eyes I believe. He works his arse off on screens...sets screen after screen every possession and is actually a b*tch to get around.
Granted, However, Amar's mistake in guarding is (most of the time) not getting off his feet when trying to block a shot. That's why he keeps getting called for fouls. He could take a page from Obekpa and Pointer on how to block without fouling. They're both poetry in motion and could have been ballet dancers.
One of Amar's problem on defense is he over commits on his rotations instead of playing the gaps. That will come with experience.
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I have to admit, the kid's more athletic and active than I ever expected. He runs well and has a good frame to add some muscle to. I think he'll be an underrated, productive 4 year player. Lav should target more Euro bigs, grab a bruiser or two.
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Once he gets more comfortable he's going to be a real threat from deep.
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Well, it's not committed to memory; you post them on one continuous stream so when I scrolled down (seeing if there was any more) I saw that line in the previous game post. I assure you, i don't have the memory nor the motivation to memorize what you write. However, be happy to know I do read most of your recaps. That would be the point of you writing them, so good on you. I enjoy your writing style for the most part, just not the vitriol you spew.
I find it interesting that you seem to know what makes me happy and what makes me unhappy. Since you asked, my perspective is that I pity people who seem to be unable to find joy in anything, especially a game. If the recaps are truly a spoof, and not your apparent frustration and anger at the world (now I'm pretending to know something about you), then I guess that pity is misplaced. That being said, everyone gets off on other people's misery (schadenfreude) to some degree. We're 21-9, and I can only recall one "thumbs up" post after a game - but perhaps my memory is off.
All that psychobabble being said, I can understand the jaded point of view. After all, we are St. John's. It would just seem to be more beneficial to enjoy the good moments while they're here, rather than simply focus on everything bad that has happened and will continue to happen. Differing life philosophies I suppose.
I hesitate for a number of reasons to continue this discussion. On the one hand more threads about me cannot not be a boon but on the other they are here out of place and might anyway chew up bandwidth better used discussing whether Marco Baldi is a true college basketball fan or which posters are Linda or Joe3. So I'll be brief and let the matter drop.
I think I know what makes you unhappy at least in regards my recaps because you've expressed your displeasure at them publicly and repeatedly. In light of that I'd wonder why you read them at all - if they weren't so damned compelling. But it seems to me odd. For example, there are posters on this website who I disdain. I skip their posts and if I don't I don't engage them in discourse. Because life's too short to spend it arguing with nimrods. I certainly wouldn't read their blogs. That was my point. Either you are reading something that makes you unhappy - which unhappiness you express by voting down simple links to a webpage - or you're taking pleasure by publicly denigrating the efforts of someone you "pity." Which probably is even worse. It's kind of akin to spell checking "Will work four food" signs. I would assume a pitiable person was an object of compassion, not approbation. Unless you're an objectivist obviously, then all bets would be off.
I find it hard to believe that you can read my little monkeyshines and take away from them "anger and frustration at the world." I find them hilarious and myself to be a riot most of the time. Sure, I mostly hate everyone and everything but not all the time. Like little puppies, I don't hate them. And tits, I like those. And then for great swaths of time I'm busy being drunk. So really spewing vitriol is just a small part of my day. If pressed I'd cop to being disgusted by humanity most of the time and aiming to maintain an attitude of indifference toward it the rest. Of course this schadenfreude weltanschauung, it's not for everyone. That's why I don't post my essays here, lest delicate flowers have to take to the divan with the vapors - unless they choose to. Which is me being compassionate. So I'm not all bad, see?
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If they don't play all out to win Saturday the players will and should revolt. These guys have fought to hard to quit . This is not a throw away game.
There is no quit as long as the guys on the floor bust hump. Guys who are really banged up can still be catered to. If Dlo needs a 20 min game, and CO 15 thats the way to go. The guys who pick up those minutes should play as harder then ever. I'm guessing Branch a no go. Tight game 4 to go would be coach's call.
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Personally I don't find Big East Board to be insightful or entertaining. Just a hater.
After last game: The marquette game is a toss up. After we beat Marquette by 16: They played lousy. No pleasing some people.
I enjoy watching Saint John's play basketball. I enjoy writing my little spoofs afterwards. Often in my spoofs I give the games a figurative thumb's down because the play has made me unhappy. Then you read the spoofs - and evidently commit them to memory - and afterwards give them a literal thumb's down because they make you unhappy.
The difference seems to be that I'm enjoying what I'm doing and you're doing something that make you unhappy, either that or you're made happy by being negative about something that brings others joy. I freely admitting getting off on other people's misery. What's your excuse?
I enjoy your little essays. Keep it up. Ignore those with no sense of humor who don't appreciate your writing and point of view. By the way, you are usually right on point
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If they don't play all out to win Saturday the players will and should revolt. These guys have fought to hard to quit . This is not a throw away game.
There is no quit as long as the guys on the floor bust hump. Guys who are really banged up can still be catered to. If Dlo needs a 20 min game, and CO 15 thats the way to go. The guys who pick up those minutes should play as harder then ever. I'm guessing Branch a no go. Tight game 4 to go would be coach's call.
No need to rush Branch back.
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No need to rush branch back. Harrison plays 35 hoping he scores 30. No UCONN starting to hate NOVA.