6th Man of St. John's Basketball

St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: TONYD3 on June 30, 2015, 10:07:54 AM

Title: Felix
Post by: TONYD3 on June 30, 2015, 10:07:54 AM
I think he was a poor fit for the last years team. Playing him next to Dom and Obekpa really limited what we could do. Basically I never wanted to see him play and hoped for him to transfer. However this year, No Dom. No Obekpa. Plus I think we shoot better. I think Felix is going to have a big season. Not all big east. But I think he can play 20 minutes with a few points and rebounds. His toughness and athleticism will be needed this year.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: redmen4life on June 30, 2015, 11:28:12 AM
He definitely has the physical ability.  now just needs the skill.  i think he has an okay jumper (foul line, in) and if he isn't afraid to mix it up, he can be a solid rebounder (ala DLo)
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Wods317 on June 30, 2015, 11:51:08 AM
Felix can be useful in spots this year. I think especially if we get Rowan he won't get much PT because of all the young talent on the team. I think we have a role though and if put in the right spots can be useful for sure.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Marillac on July 01, 2015, 11:57:38 AM
His defense will be needed. 
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: MCNPA on July 01, 2015, 10:42:05 PM
I like Felix a lot.  Great athlete with tools.  He's been too timid on the court.  Needs to learn to shoot and can be a tough time for people.  There aren't many better athletes at his size.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Mike on July 01, 2015, 11:49:44 PM
I like Felix a lot.  Great athlete with tools.  He's been too timid on the court.  Needs to learn to shoot and can be a tough time for people.  There aren't many better athletes at his size.

I'm pretty sure there are many college players that are 6'4" that are better athletes than Felix.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: MCNPA on July 01, 2015, 11:56:40 PM
I like Felix a lot.  Great athlete with tools.  He's been too timid on the court.  Needs to learn to shoot and can be a tough time for people.  There aren't many better athletes at his size.

I'm pretty sure there are many college players that are 6'4" that are better athletes than Felix.

For one I don't think he's 6'4".  The other is I doubt there are many.  Kid might be raw basketball-wise but he's a special athlete. Seen a lot over the years and Felix at his height is incredible. Not saying he's a great ball player. I thought he'd be further along at this point.  His athleticism is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on July 02, 2015, 06:57:51 AM
I like Felix a lot.  Great athlete with tools.  He's been too timid on the court.  Needs to learn to shoot and can be a tough time for people.  There aren't many better athletes at his size.

I'm pretty sure there are many college players that are 6'4" that are better athletes than Felix.

For one I don't think he's 6'4".  The other is I doubt there are many.  Kid might be raw basketball-wise but he's a special athlete. Seen a lot over the years and Felix at his height is incredible. Not saying he's a great ball player. I thought he'd be further along at this point.  His athleticism is unbelievable.

Im not sure what you mean 'at his height' either.  Felix, whether he is 6'4 or 6'2. Has the perfect build for athleticism.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: desco80 on July 02, 2015, 09:11:10 AM
The guy is a senior and we're still saying:  "he has to learn to shoot", "improve his handle", and  "he has to attack the basket more".

For all the good Felix does defensively, he's senior guard, who is a below average shooter, ball handler, and passer.     

I'll continue to root for the kid, and maybe he'll surprise us.   But there really isnt much reason to expect production from him.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: paultzman on July 02, 2015, 09:18:09 AM
The guy is a senior and we're still saying:  "he has to learn to shoot", "improve his handle", and  "he has to attack the basket more".

For all the good Felix does defensively, he's senior guard, who is a below average shooter, ball handler, and passer.     

I'll continue to root for the kid, and maybe he'll surprise us.   But there really isnt much reason to expect production from him.
Especially on a team that may have depth at wing position with players that appear to have better shooting ability. Like Felix's hard play, but doubt he sees much time.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: desco80 on July 02, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
The guy is a senior and we're still saying:  "he has to learn to shoot", "improve his handle", and  "he has to attack the basket more".

For all the good Felix does defensively, he's senior guard, who is a below average shooter, ball handler, and passer.     

I'll continue to root for the kid, and maybe he'll surprise us.   But there really isnt much reason to expect production from him.
Especially on a team that may have depth at wing position with players that appear to have better shooting ability. Like Felix's hard play, but doubt he sees much time.


Exactly.   Felix is a nice player, who definitely has athleticism and can get after it defensively, but it looks like we'll have better options this season on the wings. 
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: redslope on July 02, 2015, 09:39:40 AM
The guy is a senior and we're still saying:  "he has to learn to shoot", "improve his handle", and  "he has to attack the basket more".

For all the good Felix does defensively, he's senior guard, who is a below average shooter, ball handler, and passer.     

I'll continue to root for the kid, and maybe he'll surprise us.   But there really isnt much reason to expect production from him.
Especially on a team that may have depth at wing position with players that appear to have better shooting ability. Like Felix's hard play, but doubt he sees much time.


Exactly.   Felix is a nice player, who definitely has athleticism and can get after it defensively, but it looks like we'll have better options this season on the wings. 
It will be interesting to look at Felix's (along with other returnees) progress under Chris to see if he can improve his shooting as this would bode well for others in the future as a selling point for Chris as a coach. Whether he can turn straw into gold or the straw remains straw is up in the air.   
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Wods317 on July 02, 2015, 09:52:02 AM
Not comparing the two at all but you could have said a lot of same things we say about Felix about Dom also before last year. Before anyone flips out I am not comparing the two but I don't think you can count him out totally. If he gives you 10 good minutes that would be a bonus.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: simplyred on July 02, 2015, 02:37:26 PM
Not comparing the two at all but you could have said a lot of same things we say about Felix about Dom also before last year. Before anyone flips out I am not comparing the two but I don't think you can count him out totally. If he gives you 10 good minutes that would be a bonus.

+100
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: desco80 on July 02, 2015, 02:45:24 PM
Pointer was on some All American teams coming out of HS.    His flaws going into his senior year were very different from Felix, and on a completely different scale.
Pointer was a player with NBA potential but had trouble going from being a starter to an All-League player.

Felix hasn't cracked the rotation in his 3 seasons here. 
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: sju89tr on July 02, 2015, 03:20:29 PM
Pointer was on some All American teams coming out of HS.    His flaws going into his senior year were very different from Felix, and on a completely different scale.
Pointer was a player with NBA potential but had trouble going from being a starter to an All-League player.

Felix hasn't cracked the rotation in his 3 seasons here. 

Some recruiting services had Pointer as our best recruit in the 2011 class, didn't see really what he had to offer until his senior year although the Soph year was pretty good     
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: mjmaherjr on July 02, 2015, 03:22:42 PM
Mullin has him locked onto one of those medieval machines that stretches your body apart. Another 2 months until he lets him off the machine and he will be 6ft 11 and the athletic center we need
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: 96 Schermerhorn Street on July 02, 2015, 03:29:13 PM
 :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on July 02, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
Pointer was on some All American teams coming out of HS.    His flaws going into his senior year were very different from Felix, and on a completely different scale.
Pointer was a player with NBA potential but had trouble going from being a starter to an All-League player.

Felix hasn't cracked the rotation in his 3 seasons here. 

HS accolades aside, "The guy is a senior and we're still saying:  "he has to learn to shoot, improve his handle, and  he has to attack the basket more.
For all the good Felix (dom) does defensively, he's senior guard, who is a below average shooter, ball handler, and passer." that description is to a T what dom was entering his senior year.

 Who knows what can happen. After all desco, Im sure nobody need remind you of who has been coaching felix these past 3 years..
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: desco80 on July 02, 2015, 04:23:43 PM
Pointer was on some All American teams coming out of HS.    His flaws going into his senior year were very different from Felix, and on a completely different scale.
Pointer was a player with NBA potential but had trouble going from being a starter to an All-League player.

Felix hasn't cracked the rotation in his 3 seasons here. 

HS accolades aside, "The guy is a senior and we're still saying:  "he has to learn to shoot, improve his handle, and  he has to attack the basket more.
For all the good Felix (dom) does defensively, he's senior guard, who is a below average shooter, ball handler, and passer." that description is to a T what dom was entering his senior year.

 Who knows what can happen. After all desco, Im sure nobody need remind you of who has been coaching felix these past 3 years..


I understand what you're saying Mase.   And Felix could take a jump forward.
But Dom was coming from a different place.   He was a starter who couldn't dribble or shoot well enough to be an All League player.    Felix cant shoot or dribble enough to crack the rotation.   There's a difference.
Dom also had size, and had led our team in assists two years running.    Very different players.

Felix could make a leap forward ... but that would only make him a borderline starter.   
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: SJUFAN on July 02, 2015, 06:22:20 PM
Not expecting anything from Felix, practice player. Nothing we have seen would suggest he is anything but that. We are all fans, and we can dream, but lets be realistic here.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on July 02, 2015, 10:02:34 PM
Pointer was on some All American teams coming out of HS.    His flaws going into his senior year were very different from Felix, and on a completely different scale.
Pointer was a player with NBA potential but had trouble going from being a starter to an All-League player.

Felix hasn't cracked the rotation in his 3 seasons here. 

HS accolades aside, "The guy is a senior and we're still saying:  "he has to learn to shoot, improve his handle, and  he has to attack the basket more.
For all the good Felix (dom) does defensively, he's senior guard, who is a below average shooter, ball handler, and passer." that description is to a T what dom was entering his senior year.

 Who knows what can happen. After all desco, Im sure nobody need remind you of who has been coaching felix these past 3 years..


I understand what you're saying Mase.   And Felix could take a jump forward.
But Dom was coming from a different place.   He was a starter who couldn't dribble or shoot well enough to be an All League player.    Felix cant shoot or dribble enough to crack the rotation.   There's a difference.
Dom also had size, and had led our team in assists two years running.    Very different players.

Felix could make a leap forward ... but that would only make him a borderline starter.   

True and good points. I just look at felix's career this
1- freshmen year behind a talented class.
2-Quazi redshirt year??.
3- who knows?

He played better as a freshmen than he did this past year (same with CJ) so that tells me that there is talent there. Something was off with his confidence it seemed to me. It wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if either he or Jones are better than competent players this upcoming season.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: redstorm212 on July 03, 2015, 12:00:30 AM
He's always had potential. It may be too late in his career to tap that potential however. He simply hasn't gotten enough PT in his time here to make a Dom-like leap.

Dom probably had more playing experience after his freshman year than Felix has had his entire career.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Foad on July 03, 2015, 07:56:46 AM
He simply hasn't gotten enough PT in his time here to make a Dom-like leap.

David Cain says hey.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: derk on July 03, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
He simply hasn't gotten enough PT in his time here to make a Dom-like leap.

David Cain says hey.
Yes but DC had a position. Felix really doesn't.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Marillac on July 03, 2015, 01:47:20 PM
He's always had potential. It may be too late in his career to tap that potential however. He simply hasn't gotten enough PT in his time here to make a Dom-like leap.

Dom probably had more playing experience after his freshman year than Felix has had his entire career.

He came into an awful situation a year after we signed the #35 RSCI recruit  that is a bigger version of him (and adored by the staff).  No shame in sitting behind a second round NBA pick that was 2nd team All-Big East the Big East Defensive Co-Player of the Year.  To make things worse, the class above him included a two top 50 guards, another 4-year starting guard, and the class after him included a 5-star PG. 

Until you see how  a kid responds to consistent minutes, you can't really write them off. 
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: redstorm212 on July 03, 2015, 01:53:25 PM
He's always had potential. It may be too late in his career to tap that potential however. He simply hasn't gotten enough PT in his time here to make a Dom-like leap.

Dom probably had more playing experience after his freshman year than Felix has had his entire career.

He came into an awful situation a year after we signed the #35 RSCI recruit  that is a bigger version of him (and adored by the staff).  No shame in sitting behind a second round NBA pick that was 2nd team All-Big East the Big East Defensive Co-Player of the Year.  To make things worse, the class above him included a two top 50 guards, another 4-year starting guard, and the class after him included a 5-star PG. 

Until you see how  a kid responds to consistent minutes, you can't really write them off. 

Not writing him off at all. I think he will be a serviceable player this season, possibly even a starter, but to expect a much bigger leap than that is unrealistic.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Marillac on July 03, 2015, 02:11:44 PM
He's always had potential. It may be too late in his career to tap that potential however. He simply hasn't gotten enough PT in his time here to make a Dom-like leap.

Dom probably had more playing experience after his freshman year than Felix has had his entire career.

He came into an awful situation a year after we signed the #35 RSCI recruit  that is a bigger version of him (and adored by the staff).  No shame in sitting behind a second round NBA pick that was 2nd team All-Big East the Big East Defensive Co-Player of the Year.  To make things worse, the class above him included a two top 50 guards, another 4-year starting guard, and the class after him included a 5-star PG. 

Until you see how  a kid responds to consistent minutes, you can't really write them off. 

Not writing him off at all. I think he will be a serviceable player this season, possibly even a starter, but to expect a much bigger leap than that is unrealistic.

I guess the difference is between expecting and hoping.  I am probably his biggest fan other than maybe Fun, but even I have to admit that he hasn't given much reason to expect a guy that can give us 25 quality mpg.  I do see the potential, though.  There is not a better athlete at any position in the Big East and I don't think anyone is even close to him either.

At this point, I see him as a 10-15 mpg defensive specialist that will be called upon to stop the best offensive player 1-3 with Durand Johnson.  The best case scenario for this coming season might just be him really stepping it up and starting alongside Johnson.

Title: Re: Felix
Post by: WillieG on July 04, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
Pointer was on some All American teams coming out of HS.    His flaws going into his senior year were very different from Felix, and on a completely different scale.
Pointer was a player with NBA potential but had trouble going from being a starter to an All-League player.

Felix hasn't cracked the rotation in his 3 seasons here.
Remember the GTown game in 2014?
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: WillieG on July 04, 2015, 09:34:26 PM
Lav had a premonition that day.  Things like that were typical of him.  They say people from the land of fruits and nuts really are "different", but I don't know.  He did and said a lot of really strange things.  All in all, a decent guy though.
Title: Re: Felix
Post by: Tha Kid on July 08, 2015, 09:03:35 AM
I don't expect much out of Felix.  But he is super athletic and now has excellent basketball minds giving him training regimens and sharing their knowledge w him.  Could make a difference.  as someone said, 10 productive minutes from him would be a bonus.  As a super athletic senior that's not totally out of the realm of possibility.