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Title: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: paultzman on May 22, 2017, 08:54:43 AM
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/st-johns-iona-headline-2017-holiday-festival-msg/
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 22, 2017, 08:59:21 AM
St.John's waited until a season where they believe it won't be a game. It should rarely be a game, but we know that isn't true. Iona overachieved last year, but even in a down year, which it looks this could be, you have to get out on their shooters.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Johnny23 on May 22, 2017, 09:05:06 AM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: QuanMan on May 22, 2017, 09:17:42 AM
Shamorie and Marcus are going to dice up Casimir and McGill. Our size, depth and most importantly height is going to punish them. I'm glad that Mullin is taking this head on.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 09:19:52 AM
Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi.  Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Wods317 on May 22, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
Schedule is tough this year, love it.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 22, 2017, 09:34:26 AM
WTF are they doing with this schedule?  They better bring in a big man for depth at this point.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: valgoth on May 22, 2017, 09:35:58 AM
Crowd 75/25 Iona ?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Johnny23 on May 22, 2017, 09:38:27 AM
WTF are they doing with this schedule?  They better bring in a big man for depth at this point.

According to the Post article, it doesn't sound like this will happen. They could sure use a serviceable big.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: prjohnnies on May 22, 2017, 09:56:36 AM
You finally got your wish

Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi.  Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: valgoth on May 22, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
Let's guess at the length of pages on this thread by tipoff .
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: redslope on May 22, 2017, 11:01:03 AM
Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi.  Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense

over under at 210 points????
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 11:03:43 AM
Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi.  Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense

over under at 210 points????

For Iona? Over
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 11:09:51 AM
St.John's waited until a season where they believe it won't be a game. It should rarely be a game, but we know that isn't true. Iona overachieved last year, but even in a down year, which it looks this could be, you have to get out on their shooters.

Never a down year with Cluess and Grasso there
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Acrimony on May 22, 2017, 12:36:03 PM
And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.

Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: KJ_Django on May 22, 2017, 12:55:07 PM
And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.

Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!

The term is called a "troll"
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.

Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.

Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!

The term is called a "troll"

Nah. Trolling would be if I compared Wilson to Freudenberg
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Celtics11 on May 22, 2017, 01:12:09 PM
This will be Iona's Super Bowl. We better come to play to match their intensity. First prediction- St. John's 126 Iona 125 in 2 OTs.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 01:12:52 PM
Iona roster,  for now

G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi

G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Acrimony on May 22, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
Why are you posting Iona's roster here? Who cares. You should be on an Iona board, oh wait, not enough people care about them to have a board. You would be talking to yourself! But wait, you do that on here anyway!
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 01:20:16 PM
Why are you posting Iona's roster here? Who cares. You should be on an Iona board, oh wait, not enough people care about them to have a board. You would be talking to yourself! But wait, you do that on here anyway!

Very angry. I would be too if I just found out Iona was on the schedule. Ionahoops.com, come say hi. Bring beer
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Acrimony on May 22, 2017, 01:32:30 PM
Very angry? Not sure where that came from, but as usual, not sure where half of your babble comes from!
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on May 22, 2017, 01:39:50 PM
Now that Baldi worked his magic and got the match up he wanted, maybe he can work it again and get us a big to rebound, clog the middle, use up 5 fouls, catch the ball and give us 20 minutes or so.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
Now that Baldi worked his magic and got the match up he wanted, maybe he can work it again and get us a big to rebound, clog the middle, use up 5 fouls, catch the ball and give us 20 minutes or so.

Need a miracle worker. Or a recruiter
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: prjohnnies on May 22, 2017, 01:51:18 PM
Thought Much left or was leaving?

Iona roster,  for now

G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi

G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 02:51:37 PM
Thought Much left or was leaving?

Iona roster,  for now

G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi

G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)

Left for a.few games last season but came back
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: prjohnnies on May 22, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
No I knew that but thought he was gone again
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: carmineabbatiello on May 22, 2017, 03:33:20 PM
And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.

Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer

Bronx pale ale or Bud light?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.

Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer

Bronx pale ale or Bud light?

Anything cold brother.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: apesNapes on May 22, 2017, 04:13:53 PM
ugh, another year and another snoozer for the holiday fest.  why do they have so much trouble getting teams for this game that will generate some interest?  could they get someone like wichita state or the zags to come east, or even Michigan or a school like that to put fannies in the seats?  it seems like we get lame locals that no one wants to see (rutgers, fordham, iona, etc.) or even last year was penn state, right?  how exciting.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 05:41:01 PM
ugh, another year and another snoozer for the holiday fest.  why do they have so much trouble getting teams for this game that will generate some interest?  could they get someone like wichita state or the zags to come east, or even Michigan or a school like that to put fannies in the seats?  it seems like we get lame locals that no one wants to see (rutgers, fordham, iona, etc.) or even last year was penn state, right?  how exciting.

Common denominator at the  awful Holiday festival is St Johns.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on May 22, 2017, 05:59:46 PM
You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 22, 2017, 06:06:27 PM
You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?

St. Johns is supposed to be the marquee draw at the Garden for the Festival no?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on May 22, 2017, 06:11:33 PM
I thought you thought beer was the draw.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Celtics11 on May 22, 2017, 06:27:14 PM
You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?

St. Johns is supposed to be the marquee draw at the Garden for the Festival no?

They are, that's why they have been drawing 5,000 fans on NFL Sundays. May go this year for the battle of local supremacy.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on May 22, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.

Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer
you might have to sit in 114 for this. The beers will be flowing
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 22, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Iona roster,  for now

G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi

G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)

Who could present match up problems for St.John's?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 05:59:02 AM
Iona roster,  for now

G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi

G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)

Who could present match up problems for St.John's?

Some nice matchups, will have to wait and see. Alot of new faces on Iona as usual. I want to see McGill on Ponds
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 06:07:42 AM
http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2017/05/st-johns-and-iona-on-track-to-rivalry.html?m=1
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on May 23, 2017, 06:51:57 AM
You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?

Matt A pulled a four star recruit out of his ass, that's what happened. Besides being a good thing for a program he hates and fears it destroys Baldi's short term narrative about Barry Rohrssen. And now he has a no win situation game against a BE team in MSG to look forward to: either Iona fans storm the court after they win their Superbowl in December against mighty St John's - and end up looking like Fordham fans - or they take a beating. Either way they lose. Which makes this a pretty bad week for the Gaels.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: JohnnyJungle on May 23, 2017, 07:44:42 AM
http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2017/05/st-johns-and-iona-on-track-to-rivalry.html?m=1

Hardly a rivalry simply a local matchup.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 07:52:55 AM
You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?

Matt A pulled a four star recruit out of his ass, that's what happened. Besides being a good thing for a program he hates and fears it destroys Baldi's short term narrative about Barry Rohrssen. And now he has a no win situation game against a BE team in MSG to look forward to: either Iona fans storm the court after they win their Superbowl in December against mighty St John's - and end up looking like Fordham fans - or they take a beating. Either way they lose. Which makes this a pretty bad week for the Gaels.

You're right. This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March. But I'm expecting a Gael victory, just hope this game isn't an RPI killer for NY's team
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 23, 2017, 08:31:58 AM
Iona roster,  for now

G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi

G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)

Who could present match up problems for St.John's?

Some nice matchups, will have to wait and see. Alot of new faces on Iona as usual. I want to see McGill on Ponds

I don't think you want to see McGill on Ponds. I don't think McGill wants to see it either. I think McGill could guard Mussini, but Ponds, LoVett and Simon will eat him alive. Now, we'll get to see if I'm right.

I think St.John's took a look at the Iona roster and began salivating.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on May 23, 2017, 08:54:23 AM
This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March.

Maac teams don't have bad losses, they are bad losses.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on May 23, 2017, 09:22:02 AM
Not even Paultz will come to Baldi's defense, since he's been unfairly attacking Matt.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 09:34:25 AM
Not even Paultz will come to Baldi's defense, since he's been unfairly attacking Matt.

That you Scheppy?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 09:54:26 AM
This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March.

Maac teams don't have bad losses, they are bad losses.

Agreed. Quinnipiac had 21 of them, yet here we are poaching their roster
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on May 23, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March.

Maac teams don't have bad losses, they are bad losses.

Agreed. Quinnipiac had 21 of them, yet here we are poaching their roster

There are no good players on bad teams, excellent point.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on May 23, 2017, 10:13:05 AM
Foad, leave Baldi alone. Its not a fair fight....
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 10:16:03 AM
Foad, leave Baldi alone. Its not a fair fight....

Going to be a long 6 months for you boys
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: we are sju on May 23, 2017, 10:31:46 AM
Crowd 75/25 Iona ?

I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 10:33:47 AM
Crowd 75/25 Iona ?

I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.

I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: we are sju on May 23, 2017, 10:36:13 AM
Crowd 75/25 Iona ?

I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.

I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters

If a tree falls in the Forrest does it make a sound?
At one point they asked me to sub in. I had nowhere to put my beer and was worried that English might drink it so I declined.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Pete88 on May 23, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Foad, leave Baldi alone. Its not a fair fight....

Going to be a long 6 months for you boys

Glad to see you finally admit "You" are not one of "Us"
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Pete88 on May 23, 2017, 10:39:37 AM
Crowd 75/25 Iona ?

I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.

I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters

WOW, impressive, must be a banner in the rafters for that great accomplishment. 
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 23, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
Crowd 75/25 Iona ?

I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.

I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters

WOW, impressive, must be a banner in the rafters for that great accomplishment. 

Yes. Right next to the 8th place banner
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 23, 2017, 01:00:54 PM
Pretty amazing there is so much buzz for a game against a team that hasn't beat a team from a power conference November of 2014. They have lost their last 5 games vs power conference teams by double digits.

As I've said forever, this is a complete no-win situation for SJU and Iona has everything to gain. If Iona is able to give us a good game in this one our season is not going to go the way we hope.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: KJ_Django on May 23, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
Iona has finished the season with a top 100 RPI each of the last 8 seasons. Hovering from 60-85

If that stays to form, losing to them on a neutral court wont be a reason we stay out of NCAA Tournament.
Winning that game gives us top 100 RPI win.

So I like this matchup. Got a buddy that went to Iona for college, might try and force him to go to the game.

Also Iona is 3-29 against the Big East since 96 with most of their games being against Seton Hall and Rutgers (When Seton Hall was BE cellar dwellers)

Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: desco80 on May 23, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Gray Chudney on May 23, 2017, 04:37:24 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Simon Ponds and Lovett should all start.  At 6'5, Simon is the de facto 3 man
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: carmineabbatiello on May 23, 2017, 08:32:53 PM
If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.

If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.

Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired.  Don't expect him to repeat that error.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 24, 2017, 05:47:58 AM
If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.

If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.

Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired.  Don't expect him to repeat that error.

I would say Mullin's hand was forced to make that decision
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 24, 2017, 08:26:49 AM
If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.

If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.

Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired.  Don't expect him to repeat that error.

I would say Mullin's hand was forced to make that decision

If LoVett was late to a practice and Mullin didn't start him, that's on LoVett. Get to practice on time.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: prjohnnies on May 24, 2017, 08:35:43 AM
+1000 to Poison and Baldi on this. Also Lovett never really sulked or caused an issue about it one time. He knows the deal.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: we are sju on May 24, 2017, 11:30:22 AM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

My guess would be Lovett only doesn't start for disciplinary reasons for the remainder of his SJU career. However short that might be be.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: carmineabbatiello on May 24, 2017, 02:35:15 PM
If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.

If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.

Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired.  Don't expect him to repeat that error.

I would say Mullin's hand was forced to make that decision

If LoVett was late to a practice and Mullin didn't start him, that's on LoVett. Get to practice on time.

If that was the case why couldn't it be plainly stated by the staff?  Plus the intel on it from youze guys was vague and inconclusive.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: capmaker on May 24, 2017, 06:06:28 PM
Perhaps the coaching staff wanted to keep it private amongst the team and not publicly embarrass LoVett.  Perhaps.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: carmineabbatiello on May 25, 2017, 11:41:45 AM
I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Celtics11 on May 25, 2017, 11:49:27 AM
I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.
You have to learn to read between the lines.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 25, 2017, 01:55:48 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 25, 2017, 02:12:16 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 25, 2017, 02:31:12 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 25, 2017, 03:21:34 PM
I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.

Violation of team rules usually = weed
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 25, 2017, 03:32:33 PM
I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.

Violation of team rules usually = weed

Lol It almost always means screwing up in or missing class.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 25, 2017, 03:33:46 PM
I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.

Violation of team rules usually = weed

Lol It almost always means screwing up in or missing class.

Because your puffing the magic dragon
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: desco80 on May 25, 2017, 08:15:14 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

We'll see.  And he's not Dom Pointer, but that's ok.
I'm told the staff sees him running the point. 
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 25, 2017, 08:58:03 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 25, 2017, 08:59:43 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

We'll see.  And he's not Dom Pointer, but that's ok.
I'm told the staff sees him running the point. 

The staff sees him playing the 1-3. They have acknowledged that he's multiple position player.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: MCNPA on May 25, 2017, 09:33:43 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.

I think you're wrong Marillac.  The kid is a phenomenal passer for a kid his size.  He's excellent with both hands.  He can easily play any backcourt spot.   Where in these clips does he dribble the ball to his chest?  I know clips anrent the best but he doesn't at all...  Either he's a PG or a point forward, but I want the ball in his hands plenty.  He's mega athletic, and those clips are several years old.  Kid is gonna be a killer... 

https://youtu.be/AOy29NgPdUY
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 25, 2017, 09:54:23 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.

I think you're wrong Marillac.  The kid is a phenomenal passer for a kid his size.  He's excellent with both hands.  He can easily play any backcourt spot.   Where in these clips does he dribble the ball to his chest?  I know clips anrent the best but he doesn't at all...  Either he's a PG or a point forward, but I want the ball in his hands plenty.  He's mega athletic, and those clips are several years old.  Kid is gonna be a killer... 

https://youtu.be/AOy29NgPdUY

How can you tell anything from this terrible video?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 25, 2017, 10:02:08 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: MCNPA on May 25, 2017, 10:05:13 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.

I think you're wrong Marillac.  The kid is a phenomenal passer for a kid his size.  He's excellent with both hands.  He can easily play any backcourt spot.   Where in these clips does he dribble the ball to his chest?  I know clips anrent the best but he doesn't at all...  Either he's a PG or a point forward, but I want the ball in his hands plenty.  He's mega athletic, and those clips are several years old.  Kid is gonna be a killer... 

https://youtu.be/AOy29NgPdUY

How can you tell anything from this terrible video?


https://youtu.be/MaYnzINeono

Sorry, wrong video.  Point being was that he doesn't dribble up at his chest.. Sir'Dom could barely dribble at all til junior year.  This kid has a much better handle and passing and I love Dom. 
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: MCNPA on May 25, 2017, 10:06:20 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
. Agree... Ponds is a smooth scorer.  He needs more muscle, but definitely not a PG even if he can play it at times.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on May 25, 2017, 10:16:49 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

He ran the offense last year, and he was damn good at it.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 25, 2017, 10:21:17 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

He ran the offense last year, and he was damn good at it.

He did it rarely, and he wasn't that good at it. We lost to LIU when he played point for a full game
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: redstorm212 on May 25, 2017, 10:25:14 PM
From everything I've read Simon is a very capable passer and PG.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: scoobydoo on May 25, 2017, 10:42:12 PM
Simon reminds me of Iman Shumpert.  A taller, uber athletic guard who has point guard skills.  Those guys are awesome to have if used correctly.  You put the ball in his hands and you are doomed.  Give me 12 points (8 shots tops) , 4 assists, 4 boards all in the simple flow of the game and some lock down D.  Guys like that help you win games! 
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 26, 2017, 03:40:08 AM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 26, 2017, 12:44:41 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 26, 2017, 01:22:46 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 26, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.

Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.

Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 26, 2017, 01:34:28 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.

Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.

Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect


Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 26, 2017, 02:06:15 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.

Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.

Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect


Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.

And Dom didn't succeed until he was forced to play a position that Simon will never play. So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 26, 2017, 02:54:49 PM
Would think Ponds would want some minutes at the point.  Unless he thinks he can be a 2 at the next level
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: paultzman on May 26, 2017, 03:34:10 PM
Would think Ponds would want some minutes at the point.  Unless he thinks he can be a 2 at the next level

Agree
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 26, 2017, 09:03:11 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.

Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.

Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect


Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.

So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all

What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.

We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 26, 2017, 09:08:04 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

He ran the offense last year, and he was damn good at it.

This has become bizzarro world. Our 6'0 170 all-everything freshman guard is definitely not a PG to many posters despite possessing exceptional passing ability, court awareness, ability to use both hands at a high level, and  a low controlled dribble all because he can score very well. But a 6'5 210 athlete who played nothing but forward at Zona is a PG because he can't shoot. I think I got it.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 26, 2017, 09:15:41 PM


Would think Ponds would want some minutes at the point.  Unless he thinks he can be a 2 at the next level

Lovett will want to play nothing but PG because that's his only position. Simon will also want to play PG as that is what he will have to play at the next level. That's alot of guys that will want to get time at PG this year
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 26, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.

Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.

Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect


Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.

So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all

What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.

We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.

Dom didn't succeed here until he was forced to play the 4. Simon is not playing the 4. You can't only succeed at the 3 in any competitive level of basketball anymore if you can't shoot. Can you name any good teams in college basketball last year that had a 3 that couldn't shoot?

Simon played little to no minutes at Arizona, it's impossible to tell what position based on the 3 minutes per game he played there.

With Lovett still here, Simon will see minutes at the 3 by default which im fine with. But once Lovett is gone then Simon is going to be our starting PG and he will have to be if we want to be good
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on May 26, 2017, 09:58:38 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.

Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.

Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect


Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.

So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all

What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.

We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.

Dom didn't succeed here until he was forced to play the 4. Simon is not playing the 4. You can't only succeed at the 3 in any competitive level of basketball anymore if you can't shoot. Can you name any good teams in college basketball last year that had a 3 that couldn't shoot?

Simon played little to no minutes at Arizona, it's impossible to tell what position based on the 3 minutes per game he played there.

With Lovett still here, Simon will see minutes at the 3 by default which im fine with. But once Lovett is gone then Simon is going to be our starting PG and he will have to be if we want to be good

Your arguments are completely illogical. Dom played great for 2 1/2 years. Part of his soph year and all of his junior year he believed Lavin's  Costco point guard bullsh*t and it killed him. Dom defended all five positions and his versatility and athletic ability is what made him special. Simon is more skilled than Dom, but he can give us similar versatility.

As for a SF on a winning team that couldn't shoot...PJ Dozier of South Carolina. He was second on the team in scoring and their second best player and he shot 29% from three (and 59% from FT line) and 21% the year before. SC still made the Final Four. Any player at any position can overcome any deficiency by being better in other areas. Tony Allen led Oklahoma St. to the final four as a SG that couldn't shoot and he was a first round pick too.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on May 26, 2017, 10:13:00 PM
I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.

Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt.  Mark my words.   My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless. 

Let's all say it together:  Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.

Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG

Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?

No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2

This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.

Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot  (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.

You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?

Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?


Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet.  Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue.  Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.

Simon is a not a PG.  Everyone will realize that game 1.  Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now.  He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us.  He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw.  We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.

Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.

Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect


Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.

So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all

What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.

We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.

Dom didn't succeed here until he was forced to play the 4. Simon is not playing the 4. You can't only succeed at the 3 in any competitive level of basketball anymore if you can't shoot. Can you name any good teams in college basketball last year that had a 3 that couldn't shoot?

Simon played little to no minutes at Arizona, it's impossible to tell what position based on the 3 minutes per game he played there.

With Lovett still here, Simon will see minutes at the 3 by default which im fine with. But once Lovett is gone then Simon is going to be our starting PG and he will have to be if we want to be good

Your arguments are completely illogical. Dom played great for 2 1/2 years. Part of his soph year and all of his junior year he believed Lavin's  Costco point guard bullsh*t and it killed him. Dom defended all five positions and his versatility and athletic ability is what made him special. Simon is more skilled than Dom, but he can give us similar versatility.

As for a SF on a winning team that couldn't shoot...PJ Dozier of South Carolina. He was second on the team in scoring and their second best player and he shot 29% from three (and 59% from FT line) and 21% the year before. SC still made the Final Four. Any player at any position can overcome any deficiency by being better in other areas. Tony Allen led Oklahoma St. to the final four as a SG that couldn't shoot and he was a first round pick too.

Defensively isn't the issue. Simon will always be defending 3s and bigger 2s as smaller guards like Lovett/Ponds/Dixon will have to defend opposing PGs.

PJ Dozier wasn't their SF. Thornwell was. Dozier actually played most of his minutes at PG for them and was their best passer. When he wasn't playing PG they would go small and he would play the 4. I can see Simon sort of in that role for us with less shooting volume
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: paultzman on June 22, 2017, 12:15:39 PM
Formal announcement
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062217aaa.html
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 22, 2017, 01:06:13 PM
Formal announcement
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062217aaa.html

Defensive battle. Whoever makes more 3s, wins
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Acrimony on June 22, 2017, 01:36:35 PM
I wonder who you are going to root for?  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 22, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
I wonder who you are going to root for?  ??? ??? ??? ???

NY's team.  Bring beer
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 22, 2017, 07:27:46 PM
Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Celtics11 on June 22, 2017, 10:32:19 PM
Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
Hope the two of you have a great time.  ;) :)
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 22, 2017, 10:52:02 PM
Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
Hope the two of you have a great time.  ;) :)

Be afraid
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: prjohnnies on June 22, 2017, 11:17:49 PM
See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on June 23, 2017, 05:43:26 AM
Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
Hope the two of you have a great time.  ;) :)

Be afraid

We're St. John's fans...we're always afraid.
The campus might as well be in Winterfell, because we all know winter is coming.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 23, 2017, 06:24:25 AM
See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).

Which fraternity?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on June 24, 2017, 11:31:57 AM
See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).

Which fraternity?

They have fraternities at Iona?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 24, 2017, 01:17:24 PM
See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).

Which fraternity?

They have fraternities at Iona?

Yup. Even made the tournament a few times in the last 20 years
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 27, 2017, 10:38:42 AM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: we are sju on June 27, 2017, 11:49:44 AM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG

LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 27, 2017, 12:02:19 PM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG

LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?

Place was empty after the 20,000 Duke fans left and also the 37 St Johns fans
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: we are sju on June 27, 2017, 12:09:22 PM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG

LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?

Place was empty after the 20,000 Duke fans left and also the 37 St Johns fans

Even using core math 37 greater than 17. I played a CYO game at Brendan Byrne once before a Net game and we had more fans than that game.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on June 27, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG

Give Iona a little credit. Despite the fact they haven't stayed within single digits of any power conference team since 2014, it's not a lock that SJU will massacre them
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 27, 2017, 04:56:23 PM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG

Give Iona a little credit. Despite the fact they haven't stayed within single digits of any power conference team since 2014, it's not a lock that SJU will massacre them

Good thing the Big East isn't a Power conference, otherwise I would've took that into consideration
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 27, 2017, 05:51:35 PM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG

LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?

Place was empty after the 20,000 Duke fans left and also the 37 St Johns fans

Even using core math 37 greater than 17. I played a CYO game at Brendan Byrne once before a Net game and we had more fans than that game.

Pace in the house
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: valgoth on June 27, 2017, 06:51:21 PM
remember st thomas aquinas, and delaware st. there are no gimmes at SJU......We Are
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on June 28, 2017, 12:04:43 AM
When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG

Give Iona a little credit. Despite the fact they haven't stayed within single digits of any power conference team since 2014, it's not a lock that SJU will massacre them

Good thing the Big East isn't a Power conference, otherwise I would've took that into consideration

You should watch more college basketball then
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 25, 2017, 04:43:55 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on July 25, 2017, 05:03:12 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 25, 2017, 05:05:15 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on July 25, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell

Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 25, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on July 25, 2017, 05:36:59 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 25, 2017, 05:55:24 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol

Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on July 25, 2017, 07:59:31 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol

Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?

  How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?

SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.

Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?







Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on July 25, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done

Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: RedStormNC on July 25, 2017, 09:03:26 PM
I don't know if Iona gives away free burgers, but per the NCAA attendance records for '16 season, they avg. a huge 1,826 fans per home game.  If I had to bet, I would have guessed maybe 1,200. Surprised me it was that much..   The MAAC overall was ranked 21st conference in attendance but think gets a boost from Siena at # 87 overall w/ 6,259... I had no idea...

and SJU has much to improve at 6,944 but were still 71st in D1....

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2016.pdf
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: prjohnnies on July 26, 2017, 12:16:15 AM
Not to mention Cook was essentially a first round pick after one year who was second in the nation in assists as a frosh. And Hardy was a wooden award finalist in the old Big East....


Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done

Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 26, 2017, 05:55:23 AM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done

Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.

How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 26, 2017, 05:57:59 AM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol

Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?

  How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?

SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.

Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?









ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers.  You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on July 26, 2017, 09:28:52 AM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done

Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.

How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?

They lost to Bo Ryan. Not as impressive as the 4th place finish in the Mid Major Athletic Conference the best back court in Iona history achieved in 2013, sure, but St John's didn't have to play both Canius, Marist and Rider twice. Had they they might not have finished 3rd in the Big East that year.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Tha Kid on July 26, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done

Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.

How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?

Yawn.  C'mon Baldi.  You've gained credibility back lately, don't go throw it all away.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: redstorm212 on July 26, 2017, 10:22:03 AM
Id take Hardy/Horne or Hardy/Kennedy over any Iona backcourt ever.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 26, 2017, 10:36:34 AM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done

Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.

How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?

They lost to Bo Ryan. Not as impressive as the 4th place finish in the Mid Major Athletic Conference the best back court in Iona history achieved in 2013, sure, but St John's didn't have to play both Canius, Marist and Rider twice. Had they they might not have finished 3rd in the Big East that year.

And maybe they would have beat Rob Morris
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 26, 2017, 10:38:53 AM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?

Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?

Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell



Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done

Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.

How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?

Yawn.  C'mon Baldi.  You've gained credibility back lately, don't go throw it all away.

I beg to differ. Never had any credibility in the first place. So Im told. Kid will you be at this game?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on July 26, 2017, 04:55:36 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol

Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?

  How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?

SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.

Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?









ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers.  You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
Well I'm not going to argue that I haven't had the white castle feeling after some games for sure but I like I'll take msg  and rooting for sju or watching them on tv ( I won't debate Carnesseca Arena since I can't stand that place )  over driving to Iona to root for them since 99% of Iona's games aren't on tv

I'll give Iona credit though. They do well with transfers who sucked in big conferences
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 26, 2017, 05:02:00 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol

Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?

  How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?

SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.

Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?









ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers.  You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
Well I'm not going to argue that I haven't had the white castle feeling after some games for sure but I like I'll take msg  and rooting for sju or watching them on tv ( I won't debate Carnesseca Arena since I can't stand that place )  over driving to Iona to root for them since 99% of Iona's games aren't on tv

I'll give Iona credit though. They do well with transfers who sucked in big conferences

Momo didn't suck in a big conference.

But Maher, I bet you enjoy watching meaningful games in March. Those Iona games are on TV"
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: prjohnnies on July 26, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on July 26, 2017, 07:45:10 PM
Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.

The drama. Ok. So he could've waited a year.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on July 26, 2017, 08:34:22 PM
Rothsteins tweets are funny.  But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?

Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol

Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?

  How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?

SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.

Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?









ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers.  You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
Well I'm not going to argue that I haven't had the white castle feeling after some games for sure but I like I'll take msg  and rooting for sju or watching them on tv ( I won't debate Carnesseca Arena since I can't stand that place )  over driving to Iona to root for them since 99% of Iona's games aren't on tv

I'll give Iona credit though. They do well with transfers who sucked in big conferences

Momo didn't suck in a big conference.

But Maher, I bet you enjoy watching meaningful games in March. Those Iona games are on TV"
I watch those games like a watch a car wreck. I live for the Baldi angst :)

Where do we play you this year and what day ?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on July 26, 2017, 08:36:26 PM
Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.
kind of like being in high school and banging a college chick. It's rare ( although nowadays it seems like high school kids are all banging their teachers )
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: simplyred on August 02, 2017, 11:59:16 PM
Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.
kind of like being in high school and banging a college chick. It's rare ( although nowadays it seems like high school kids are all banging their teachers )

Actually, the teachers are banging the kids.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on August 09, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
1 & 2

Syracuse and Iona's winning percentage rank among the 22 NCAA Division I programs in New York State since Tim Cluess took the reigns at Iona in 2010.

Gaels going to take down both NY teams
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjmaherjr on August 09, 2017, 07:34:30 PM
1 & 2

Syracuse and Iona's winning percentage rank among the 22 NCAA Division I programs in New York State since Tim Cluess took the reigns at Iona in 2010.

Gaels going to take down both NY teams
I'm assuming you mean crap conference NY teams like Manhattan and Marist
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on October 07, 2017, 10:31:52 PM
Must watch backcourts: Temple, Fresno State, Virginia Tech, St John's, LA Tech, Ole Miss, Iona. #CollegeHoops
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on October 16, 2017, 05:47:20 PM
from the Iona board

St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on October 16, 2017, 06:08:24 PM
St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.

If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on October 16, 2017, 06:36:15 PM
St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.

If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.

MSG forced the issue
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Gray Chudney on October 16, 2017, 08:33:14 PM
St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.

If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.

MSG forced the issue
LOL
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: RedStormNC on October 16, 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Iona basketball really has a board ?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on October 16, 2017, 08:42:51 PM
St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.

If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.

MSG forced the issue

There has been absolute ton of stupid posts on this board lately (99% of them by Poison) but this one is a hall of famer
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Foad on October 16, 2017, 08:50:30 PM
St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.

If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.

MSG forced the issue

What did they force? The acceptance or the reluctance?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on October 27, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
Tickets went on sale today. I got mines
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Redman#13 on October 27, 2017, 02:52:47 PM
Tickets went on sale today. I got mines

Not part of season package?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: STBALL46 on November 20, 2017, 05:23:45 PM
Iona STINKS
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on November 21, 2017, 03:46:05 PM
Iona STINKS

Probably why they are on the schedule
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on November 27, 2017, 07:01:32 PM
46 points ? Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Gray Chudney on November 27, 2017, 07:37:10 PM
46 points ? Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
1-4.  Weber St is a signature win, though.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 11, 2017, 06:13:35 PM
Here we come. Be afraid
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: cjfish on December 11, 2017, 07:11:56 PM
Coming from Saratoga for the only game I'll see before going South and expect it to be a boring blowout.  Good luck Baldi, you'll need it.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 11, 2017, 08:14:38 PM
Coming from Saratoga for the only game I'll see before going South and expect it to be a boring blowout.  Good luck Baldi, you'll need it.

No luck needed here. Iona has to win their conference tournament to get in. St. John's loses this game, so do they.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on December 11, 2017, 08:51:25 PM
I’m always gonna be concerned when St.John’s plays a team that usually wins their conference. And I agree with Baldi, St.John’s absolutely waited until they thought they’d have a significant advantage over Iona before scheduling them.

I like how we match up with Iona this year much more than in recent years. I could see Jordan Washington dropping 25 and 12 on us. I don’t see anyone on Iona who we need to prepare for. They do not have a clear lead scorer. By Sunday, we should have two.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: QuanMan on December 11, 2017, 09:17:11 PM
I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.

They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.

Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:

Gaels 77
Johnnies 88
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on December 12, 2017, 12:23:50 AM
I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.

They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.

Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:

Gaels 77
Johnnies 88

Biggest advantage I see for us in this game will be our defense. While i agree that Iona has a lot of capable guards, they don’t have a player we will struggle to guard. However, they don’t have a guard or a forward that plays defense at a BE level, or really at all. I think we should win by 20, but honestly, the way some games have gone over the last couple of years, I’ll be happy with a win featuring any score.

One big detail that we haven’t heard much about is whether or not LoVett will play on Sunday. If he’s out again, the game becomes more interesting, but I still think we’ll win. Johnnies are pissed because they know they could have won on Friday, and Iona is going to feel the brunt of their frustration.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: mjdinkins on December 12, 2017, 01:20:05 AM
I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.

They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.

Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:

Gaels 77
Johnnies 88

Biggest advantage I see for us in this game will be our defense. While i agree that Iona has a lot of capable guards, they don’t have a player we will struggle to guard. However, they don’t have a guard or a forward that plays defense at a BE level, or really at all. I think we should win by 20, but honestly, the way some games have gone over the last couple of years, I’ll be happy with a win featuring any score.

I was gonna mention our defense could be the catalyst in this game.  I haven't seen Iona this season, but if they still aren't playing any defense, then they're gonna be in trouble.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: carmineabbatiello on December 12, 2017, 01:40:26 AM
I watched Iona play one entire game earlier this season.

They run this really impressive weave offense. 

It's not like we (and the Globetrotters) used to run where we would weave endlessly with no purpose in sight until there were only a few seconds left on the clock then one guy looks to create his own shot off the dribble or launch a three. They really use it effectively to shift and probe the defense looking to cut the weave short and attack the basket or get an open outside shot anytime the opportunity presents itself. 
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on December 12, 2017, 02:16:18 AM
I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.

They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.

Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:

Gaels 77
Johnnies 88

Biggest advantage I see for us in this game will be our defense. While i agree that Iona has a lot of capable guards, they don’t have a player we will struggle to guard. However, they don’t have a guard or a forward that plays defense at a BE level, or really at all. I think we should win by 20, but honestly, the way some games have gone over the last couple of years, I’ll be happy with a win featuring any score.

I was gonna mention our defense could be the catalyst in this game.  I haven't seen Iona this season, but if they still aren't playing any defense, then they're gonna be in trouble.

They haven't played any defense the past 7 years under Cluess, why would they start now?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 12, 2017, 08:51:27 PM
Gaels with a 16 point win over Yale. EJ Crawford and Deyshonee Much getting their swerve back. Iona coming into MSG hot. A name to keep an eye on, freshman CJ Seaforth
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 13, 2017, 12:08:26 PM
Kenpom has this a 12 point win for johnnies
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on December 13, 2017, 12:49:31 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on December 13, 2017, 02:27:23 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?

Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: talkbigeast on December 13, 2017, 02:32:46 PM
as he mentioned when i asked "be careful what you wish for junior"
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 13, 2017, 04:48:52 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?

Would you like me to tell you why I posted this?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 13, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?

Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.

Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: goredmen on December 13, 2017, 04:56:21 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?

Would you like me to tell you why I posted this?

I think everybody knows why
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on December 13, 2017, 05:02:10 PM
Yes
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 13, 2017, 05:13:44 PM
So we think Ponds stayed home to play for the home crowd? That's cute
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on December 13, 2017, 05:32:46 PM
Socrates strikes  again,
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 13, 2017, 05:36:56 PM
Socrates strikes  again,

Boo hooo
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: hnk on December 13, 2017, 05:40:37 PM
Save it for Sunday.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Pete88 on December 13, 2017, 06:36:07 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?

Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.

Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around

A little car envy on your part huh?
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Pete88 on December 13, 2017, 07:05:51 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?

Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.

Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around

A little car envy on your part huh?

Nah. I'm still laughing about Ahmed's deal

I'm more interested in the deal they had to give Ali to get him back.  That must have been a doozy.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on December 13, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?

Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.

Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around

His girl has some $.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Spruces2 on December 13, 2017, 10:38:00 PM
So we think Ponds stayed home to play for the home crowd? That's cute

You tell ‘em Baldi! Go Iona!! :2funny:
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Towerofshred on December 14, 2017, 11:52:25 AM
So we think Ponds stayed home to play for the home crowd? That's cute

You tell ‘em Baldi! Go Iona!! :2funny:

Yeah Baldi!
Go tell 'em some hyperbole and innuendo
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: paultzman on December 14, 2017, 02:39:17 PM
Per Zach B
Chris Mullin tells me Marcus LoVett's status uncertain for Sunday against Iona. Has a sprained left knee that has kept him out of last three games. Did some basketball stuff yesterday. #sjubb
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: QuanMan on December 14, 2017, 10:11:35 PM
I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.

They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.

Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:

Gaels 77
Johnnies 88

With Trimble as the only guard off the bench, I truly think that the team needs Marcus back on Sunday. Iona has a very deep backcourt.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: capmaker on December 15, 2017, 09:45:51 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/15/iona-faces-st-johns-madison-square-garden-tim-cluess-will-flooded-old-memories/
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marillac on December 16, 2017, 10:49:01 AM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/15/iona-faces-st-johns-madison-square-garden-tim-cluess-will-flooded-old-memories/

Nice writeup by Zags. I wasn't aware Cluess had that many siblings attend St. John's or that he lost two brothers.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: jr49 on December 16, 2017, 04:12:43 PM
http://www.of.com/2017/12/15/of/
Kentucky fans showed their nasty ways in that Iona game. They made a stink at the half because Iona played them tough, then wanted cats to lay it on when Iona wore down. Went to see SJU and Cats in the final. Of course that happend down the road. We all knew Cats got burned when Glover hit his fouls. Was great laughing while their fans squawked on the way out.   
                                                                                                                                     
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: RedStormNC on December 16, 2017, 04:53:39 PM
https://nypost.com/2017/12/16/what-it-took-for-st-johns-and-iona-to-finally-play-again/
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 17, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
9 point spread
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 17, 2017, 11:52:46 AM
Line jumped back to 10. Thinking Lovett will play
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Poison on December 17, 2017, 12:56:47 PM
Line jumped back to 10. Thinking Lovett will play

But if he doesn’t play, and Iona wins, we have a built in excuse.
Title: Re: "Baldi Bowl"
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 17, 2017, 03:00:36 PM
They sell alcohol at this?