6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on November 24, 2017, 07:18:29 PM
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12pm Sunday afternoon. ESPNU
Enjoy your Saturday thinking about 7'6 Tacko Fall, I know I will
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12pm Sunday afternoon. ESPNU
Enjoy your Saturday thinking about 7'6 Tacko Fall, I know I will
He only plays about half a game.
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Will we be stumped a zoned defense again?
Just run the ball and we should win easily
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They really struggled today. Fall the only player above 10 pts, 45 total. 4 team assists, 26 turnovers, we have to take advantage of this. With UCF being the home team in this tourney, lets hope that they unravel and become even more disjointed rather then come together with the off day.
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Should be a Johnny win.
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I'm guessing the line will be pickem
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Imo, sju -3 or -3.5
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Did someone mention in another thread that UCF has some injuries if so who are the players who are out for them? Thanks
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Aubrey Dawkins & BJ Taylor
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Imo, sju -3 or -3.5
Line should be more than that in our favor. They have two key injuries and they’re coming off of a horribly played game. We should beat them by 30.
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Should be a Johnny win.
Exactly, it should be a Johnny win.
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Are we really as a fan base, gonna panic every time we have a game coming up vs a big guy or two? Last game we didn’t lose because of their big guys . In addition we are a season away from having several more big man options and more depth.
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I expect us to win by 7-15 points.
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I expect Fall to hurt us but we should still win.
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
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SJU -2.5
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Like I said, 3 or 3.5, and that’s where I think either will end up.
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
Agree with the loser mentality! Agree with everything except give ASU a game. They are an ok team at best. We certainly can beat them
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
We can't go down 9-10pnts then expect to wake up and take over games, ya gotta gun it all 40minutes.
Why we gotta get down 16pnts before waking up vs. Mizzou? We then were up 8, that's a 24pnt swing.
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
Agree with the loser mentality! Agree with everything except give ASU a game. They are an ok team at best. We certainly can beat them
Well if we learned from the Missouri, we won't be in a big hole in the 1st half.
We'll start the game ready to play.
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
Agree with the loser mentality! Agree with everything except give ASU a game. They are an ok team at best. We certainly can beat them
ASU just took apart #15 Xavier by almost 20 and are still undefeated. They will be in the top 25 this week. Their lowest scorer in their starting 5 averages almost 13 ppg the Lowest!! Their scoring averages about 100ppg We can win, but they will be huge favorites, it's what I meant by "give em a game". We will be big underdogs. This is a major problem-team scoring-wise, not size particularly. As tough as it will be, I still hate the garbage loser mentality..
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
Agree with the loser mentality! Agree with everything except give ASU a game. They are an ok team at best. We certainly can beat them
ASU just took apart #15 Xavier by almost 20 and are still undefeated. They will be in the top 25 this week. Their lowest scorer in their starting 5 averages almost 13 ppg the Lowest!! Their scoring averages about 100ppg We can win, but they will be huge favorites, it's what I meant by "give em a game". We will be big underdogs. This is a major problem-team scoring-wise, not size particularly. As tough as it will be, I still hate the garbage loser mentality..
We will not be more than 3 or 4 point underdogs in that game
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
Agree with the loser mentality! Agree with everything except give ASU a game. They are an ok team at best. We certainly can beat them
The reason why I think we'll lose against Arizona State is due to us not playing aggressively or smartly on defense for an entire 40 minutes. Any lulls against Arizona State could result in a loss. I think they are better than "ok" at this point in the season. They have four guards who are rather quick and can shoot it from deep. They have a big who can also score when necessary and create problems.
I think we'll beat Grand Canyon and St. Joe's, but ain't feeling beating Arizona State and Duke. It's not a loser's mentality, at least not on my part. It's about being familiar with my team and knowing the opposition. Once again, I'd love to be proven wrong on those two games.
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If we can't compete with UCF and beat them, we certainly aren't going very far this season. We have to be able to get up and spank a middling at best AAC team. Frankly we shouldn't be quivering about Grand Canyon either. This loser mentality has been cultivated for a long time, but the truth is that Grand Canyon won't be in the final 64, yet we are writing it up as a loss already. Something wrong with that IMO.
We slipped up vs Missouri, but we should look to dispatch with all teams except maybe ASU and Duke. ASU I'd hope to give a game, and Duke we hope we have one of our MSG at home nights... where we get all the right rolls...
We’re the fans. It’s the staff and players who have to work on their mentality. We’ve done our part.
In terms of playing Arizona State, they just destroyed Xavier.
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
There are no must win games in November.
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
There are no must win games in November.
Loser mentality. No standards. Can’t expect to play well in the big east in February if we are buried in November.
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
There are no must win games in November.
Only good losses
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
There are no must win games in November.
Loser mentality. No standards. Can’t expect to play well in the big east in February if we are buried in November.
As you know, I've never been one to overreact to either a big win or a tough loss. Instead, I've tried to focus on the path of incremental progress because that's what ultimately positions a team to do something special come March. I was influenced by some strong teachers who believed in process -- what I learned from the masters of the game was to stay the course of incremental development and taking baby steps. From every win or loss we learn. I'm not as caught up on the timing because at the end of the day if we win it's great timing and if we lose it's bad timing. We'll likely be a team that plays its best basketball between late January and mid-February and will be capable of doing something special in March. We need to stay injury-free and there's always the challenge of building chemistry, but given all the variables, I think we'll be a team that's going to continue to develop to a point where we can put a winning brand of basketball on the floor.
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Incremental steps be as they may...UCF is on a par with Missouri. We tend to overlook some teams. I see an eight point loss for us. We're an NBA first round draft pick short of making any noise other than ffffft come March.
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
There are no must win games in November.
Loser mentality. No standards. Can’t expect to play well in the big east in February if we are buried in November.
As you know, I've never been one to overreact to either a big win or a tough loss. Instead, I've tried to focus on the path of incremental progress because that's what ultimately positions a team to do something special come March. I was influenced by some strong teachers who believed in process -- what I learned from the masters of the game was to stay the course of incremental development and taking baby steps. From every win or loss we learn. I'm not as caught up on the timing because at the end of the day if we win it's great timing and if we lose it's bad timing. We'll likely be a team that plays its best basketball between late January and mid-February and will be capable of doing something special in March. We need to stay injury-free and there's always the challenge of building chemistry, but given all the variables, I think we'll be a team that's going to continue to develop to a point where we can put a winning brand of basketball on the floor.
Shocked that you wrote a considerate post that actually focused on Basketball. Yes this is only November, but it is year 3. It’s great that we finally show effort on defense. You can’t sleep walk through half a game , then play crazy hard, and then fall apart at the end. That is not a process. Are we better then we have been ? Absolutely! That should not be the question.
The question should be is are we as good as we should be? We took so many steps back for whatever reason I will never understand. Their needs to be standards. Their needs to be results. This is not CYO. Defense and effort should have been instilled at the beginning.
We are going to lose games. That is part of sports. But we also need to win some. Our coaches are getting payed plenty. We have highly rated star players. We need to beat central Florida.
We need to set a higher bar.
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
There are no must win games in November.
Loser mentality. No standards. Can’t expect to play well in the big east in February if we are buried in November.
As you know, I've never been one to overreact to either a big win or a tough loss. Instead, I've tried to focus on the path of incremental progress because that's what ultimately positions a team to do something special come March. I was influenced by some strong teachers who believed in process -- what I learned from the masters of the game was to stay the course of incremental development and taking baby steps. From every win or loss we learn. I'm not as caught up on the timing because at the end of the day if we win it's great timing and if we lose it's bad timing. We'll likely be a team that plays its best basketball between late January and mid-February and will be capable of doing something special in March. We need to stay injury-free and there's always the challenge of building chemistry, but given all the variables, I think we'll be a team that's going to continue to develop to a point where we can put a winning brand of basketball on the floor.
Shocked that you wrote a considerate post that actually focused on Basketball. Yes this is only November, but it is year 3. It’s great that we finally show effort on defense. You can’t sleep walk through half a game , then play crazy hard, and then fall apart at the end. That is not a process. Are we better then we have been ? Absolutely! That should not be the question.
The question should be is are we as good as we should be? We took so many steps back for whatever reason I will never understand. Their needs to be standards. Their needs to be results. This is not CYO. Defense and effort should have been instilled at the beginning.
We are going to lose games. That is part of sports. But we also need to win some. Our coaches are getting payed plenty. We have highly rated star players. We need to beat central Florida.
We need to set a higher bar.
That was a quote from Steve Lavin, in year four of his five year rebuild. Agree with you that he was a loser with no standards and that his play your best ball in February spiel was hokum. And here I was thinking you were a fan of his.
Anyway, all I meant was that one November game here or there is meaningless. Syracuse made the final four Mullin's first year, when Federico Mussini and Amar Alibegowitch beat them single handedly.
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This is a must win if we are building a resume, can't afford to lose this one.
There are no must win games in November.
Loser mentality. No standards. Can’t expect to play well in the big east in February if we are buried in November.
As you know, I've never been one to overreact to either a big win or a tough loss. Instead, I've tried to focus on the path of incremental progress because that's what ultimately positions a team to do something special come March. I was influenced by some strong teachers who believed in process -- what I learned from the masters of the game was to stay the course of incremental development and taking baby steps. From every win or loss we learn. I'm not as caught up on the timing because at the end of the day if we win it's great timing and if we lose it's bad timing. We'll likely be a team that plays its best basketball between late January and mid-February and will be capable of doing something special in March. We need to stay injury-free and there's always the challenge of building chemistry, but given all the variables, I think we'll be a team that's going to continue to develop to a point where we can put a winning brand of basketball on the floor.
Shocked that you wrote a considerate post that actually focused on Basketball. Yes this is only November, but it is year 3. It’s great that we finally show effort on defense. You can’t sleep walk through half a game , then play crazy hard, and then fall apart at the end. That is not a process. Are we better then we have been ? Absolutely! That should not be the question.
The question should be is are we as good as we should be? We took so many steps back for whatever reason I will never understand. Their needs to be standards. Their needs to be results. This is not CYO. Defense and effort should have been instilled at the beginning.
We are going to lose games. That is part of sports. But we also need to win some. Our coaches are getting payed plenty. We have highly rated star players. We need to beat central Florida.
We need to set a higher bar.
That was a quote from Steve Lavin, in year four of his five year rebuild. Agree with you that he was a loser with no standards and that his play your best ball in February spiel was hokum. And here I was thinking you were a fan of his.
Anyway, all I meant was that one November game here or there is meaningless. Syracuse made the final four Mullin's first year, when Federico Mussini and Amar Alibegowitch beat them single handedly.
Except they’re not meaningless. By and large the teams that are ready in November are the ones playing in March. They are exceptions, such as Lavin’s first team or horribly coached players. Outside of that, when we play well early it’s a strong indicator that we will continue to do so.
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To think anyone here was afraid of Tacko Fall...
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Foul trouble and fatigue is gonna be a concern all season.
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Nice to see we didn't work on our zone offense during the off day
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We're settling.
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Gotta say our conversions out of time outs this year is may be the best I've ever seen. I know it's early but positive sign of growth from players and staff
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Gotta say our conversions out of time outs this year is may be the best I've ever seen. I know it's early but positive sign of growth from players and staff
Agree.
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No doubt a steady diet of zones to slow SJU down will be there until we evidence solid results.
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We are a good shooting team. The best we’ve been since Harrison’s senior year. But we have too much one on one and the zone is only going to be hard for us when we don’t move the ball. You need to hit shots to beat it, but we play into their hands when we don’t move the ball.
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We are a good shooting team. The best we’ve been since Harrison’s senior year. But we have too much one on one and the zone is only going to be hard for us when we don’t move the ball. You need to hit shots to beat it, but we play into their hands when we don’t move the ball.
We also destroyed Syracuse's zone last few years. We have to pass into the zone, not just bomb over it. Mullin knows how to coach against it. Just need players to buy in.
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Time to step on their necks now while we are ahead... now is the time to step it under and take the game away.
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Another one of our problems vs a zone is that they are generally more susceptible to giving up offensive rebounds and we get absolutely none of them
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We should have a double digit lead right now. A lot of not so good possessions still.
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I never want Amar taking an NBA range 3 again unless a buzzer is sounding as the ball is in the air
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It really hurts that Amar is our 8th man off the bench. He is barely an AAC player.
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We should have put this team away already....
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Bad shot selection v zone
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Crappy offensive possessions still. All outside shots and one on one. Giving this lesser team a pulse.
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We look like absolute garbage right now
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Take the ball to the damn hoop.
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Our team must've rode too many, rollercoaster's yesterday and got sick. They're playing like stir fried 'ish.
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Playing atrocious AND the refs are hammering us like the Missouri game. We need to turn it up. UCF is awful. We are playing down to them.
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Trimble picked a bad day to be sick.
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This is a tough watch.
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VIdeo of this mess not heading to College Basketball HOF
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Mussini would have been useful against these zone defenses.
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Playing stupidly defensively
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Ponds being 0-7 is an understated story of this game so far.
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They should have doubled this team up by now.
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Zone by necessity w so many fouls?
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These dudes look like they don't wanna play today.
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Lovett definitely had no idea how much was on the shot clock.
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They should have doubled this team up by now.
No kidding. Too undiscipline on offense.
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Gross
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Zone by necessity w so many fouls?
+1
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No structure on offense. 12 points in the last 17 minutes of the half
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We look like absolute garbage right now
My apologies to garbage.
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
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This is atrocious. For as improved as our defense has been, our offense is stinking up the place. Can't hit the side of a barn. We can never play a good first half it seems. Gonna need to turn it up second half, but refs have been hammering us and we have foul issues.
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
Think you need to actually pass the ball to register an assist. Oh, and then the player you passed it to actually has to put the ball in the basket.
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We are a good shooting team. The best we’ve been since Harrison’s senior year. But we have too much one on one and the zone is only going to be hard for us when we don’t move the ball. You need to hit shots to beat it, but we play into their hands when we don’t move the ball.
We also destroyed Syracuse's zone last few years. We have to pass into the zone, not just bomb over it. Mullin knows how to coach against it. Just need players to buy in.
If the players don’t buy into what Mullin is teaching then he’s a bad coach. Know who else beat the Syracuse zone? Brian Mahoney.
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The announcer said it well: guards seem to be playing a little too anxious, too fast.
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UCF missing 2 important players. Our players and coaches say the right things but talk is cheap. prove it on the court.
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What a horrible first half of "basketball"! Here's a concept...after you've broken the press and have an advantage in the offensive end, keep attacking the basket instead of letting the defense set up. I hope Mullin breaks a chair throwing it into a wall. Somebody better be throwing furniture around in the locker room at halftime.
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A good or even decent coach will tear this team a new one at halftime. They had better come out ready.
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A good or even decent coach will tear this team a new one at halftime. They had better come out ready.
Doesn't seem in Mullin's nature.
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The announcer said it well: guards seem to be playing a little too anxious, too fast.
Yeah, that’s Fran Frascilla. He’d know, he brought us Colin Charles.
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A good or even decent coach will tear this team a new one at halftime. They had better come out ready.
Doesn't seem in Mullin's nature.
Doesn't it though? He's the same guy who's gotten two techs already this year...
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
He's a shooting guard apparently. We'll suck until that changes.
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Teams are gonna zone us all year. Really would like to see more passes to middle for Clark. Would draw bigs out a little bit. Too much passing on perimeter. Bigs just camping down low.
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A good or even decent coach will tear this team a new one at halftime. They had better come out ready.
Doesn't seem in Mullin's nature.
Doesn't it though? He's the same guy who's gotten two techs already this year...
When have you seen him light into one of his players in 3 years?
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A good or even decent coach will tear this team a new one at halftime. They had better come out ready.
Doesn't seem in Mullin's nature.
Doesn't it though? He's the same guy who's gotten two techs already this year...
When have you seen him light into one of his players in 3 years?
He lit into Sima last November and then Sima quit the team.
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How does this team get baffled by a zone? They are built to beat a zone. Put Simon in the middle and he has three good shooters to kick it to. Screen and backdoor/lob.
UCF is BAAAAD.
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How does this team get baffled by a zone? They are built to beat a zone. Put Simon in the middle and he has three good shooters to kick it to. Screen and backdoor/lob.
UCF is BAAAAD.
Clearly they aren’t playing very hard right now. That’s how. And it’s 100% on the staff to get them focused and ready for every game. Better be one helluva halftime speech.
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A good or even decent coach will tear this team a new one at halftime. They had better come out ready.
Doesn't seem in Mullin's nature.
Doesn't it though? He's the same guy who's gotten two techs already this year...
When have you seen him light into one of his players in 3 years?
I don't know about you, but I don't have access to every practice and their locker room during games. From what we've seen in public on the sidelines, it's absurd to say he's some complacent, disconnected guy. Especially this year.
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press these stiffs....starting to work the ball better
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
He's a shooting guard apparently. We'll suck until that changes.
I'm not so sure of that. We have 3 guys (ponds and Simon) that can create and dish on offense. 0 assists hurts but Lovett doesn't need to be a true pg for the team to have success.
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
He's a shooting guard apparently. We'll suck until that changes.
I'm not so sure of that. We have 3 guys (ponds and Simon) that can create and dish on offense. 0 assists hurts but Lovett doesn't need to be a true pg for the team to have success.
Simon can't create off the bounce in the half court. He just dribbled the ball of his foot and that ended up being his best pass off the bounce all game.
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press these stiffs....starting to work the ball better
Everyone has 2 or 3 fouls.
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horrible.....pressing should help the foul situation, slow their setup, inside is by far where the most fouls occur
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Owens and Ponds have done nothing today.
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
He's a shooting guard apparently. We'll suck until that changes.
I'm not so sure of that. We have 3 guys (ponds and Simon) that can create and dish on offense. 0 assists hurts but Lovett doesn't need to be a true pg for the team to have success.
Simon can't create off the bounce in the half court. He just dribbled the ball of his foot and that ended up being his best pass off the bounce all game.
I disagree. Simon must have kicked your dog or something. Time will tell I guess, hope you become a believer.
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Should employ a no dribbling allowed rule to Clark
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They are allowing taco Tuesday to travel almost every time he has the ball. That said, we are playing like absolute garbage against a garbage team. We'd be lucky to squeak this game out..
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
He's a shooting guard apparently. We'll suck until that changes.
I'm not so sure of that. We have 3 guys (ponds and Simon) that can create and dish on offense. 0 assists hurts but Lovett doesn't need to be a true pg for the team to have success.
Simon can't create off the bounce in the half court. He just dribbled the ball of his foot and that ended up being his best pass off the bounce all game.
I disagree. Simon must have kicked your dog or something. Time will tell I guess, hope you become a believer.
I want him in a strict 2 dribble limit in the half court unless he's coming downhill with space off of a weave or handoff or he's matched up with a PF or C.
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How many fuggin layups do they blow a game??
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That was some garbage by the ref. Fall bodied Marcus and they're just like sure that of course wasnt a foul
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Lovett isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is.
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Bashir Ahmed is an embarrassment on defense.... should be glued to bench..... horrible basketball IQ.
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Ponds still hasn't taken a shot yet this half...
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That was some garbage by the ref. Fall bodied Marcus and they're just like sure that of course wasnt a foul
clean
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They look like a 15 win team today.
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Thank God Fall got his fourth. Different game.
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At some point it's just good comedy.
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Ponds still hasn't taken a shot yet this half...
Looked like he hurt his hand/wrist end of second half.
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ugly beyond belief.....Id like to see more movement on the baseline, particularly if they are in a zone,,,,its not rocket science
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As bad as they have played, amazing they can still get out of here with a win & get 2/3 they needed.
For a team with no depth, boy do we commit so many reach in fouls. Will hurt us in long run.
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Ponds still hasn't taken a shot yet this half...
Looked like he hurt his hand/wrist end of second half.
That would make sense because he definitely doesn't look comfortable out there and looking even more passive than he does.
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As bad as they have played, amazing they can still get out of here with a win & get 2/3 they needed.
For a team with no depth, boy do we commit so many reach in fouls. Will hurt us in long run.
Fraschilla had a good point about using their hands too much on defense.
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As the announcer said, play D with your feet
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This is the ugliest 12-2 run I've ever watched. We aren't going to win any Big East games where Lovett is taking 20+ shots.
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great double down low, what a stiff fall is
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Amar cannot be in the game here. I don't care what the foul trouble and lack of depth is like
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Are there no guys that can transfer here in time for the Spring semester?
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Lovet 0 assists on last 3 halves
He's a shooting guard apparently. We'll suck until that changes.
I'm not so sure of that. We have 3 guys (ponds and Simon) that can create and dish on offense. 0 assists hurts but Lovett doesn't need to be a true pg for the team to have success.
Simon can't create off the bounce in the half court. He just dribbled the ball of his foot and that ended up being his best pass off the bounce all game.
I disagree. Simon must have kicked your dog or something. Time will tell I guess, hope you become a believer.
Both Simon and Clark need to get the ball to LoVett and Ponds more often. They do not have the same handle. LoVett and Ponds have point guard handles.
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Why does Ponds pass there? Just go up with it!
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There is so much to like about Simon's game and he is clearly the heir to the Postell/Senior year Pointer legacy...but Jesus H Tapdancing Christ is he awful with the ball in his hands right now. Terrible handle, terrible decision making. Have no doubt he'll figure it out but yeesh, so hard too watch.
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Stupid foul and totally unnecessary by LoVett.
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Injury or not, Ponds has to take over this game -- whether it be through shooting the ball or distributing.
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Has Diakite officially been assigned a redshirt?
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Stupid foul and totally unnecessary by LoVett.
I've been saying, he's too reckless.
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Why was Clark unbalanced for that shot? Lovett has got to grow up fast if we want to play meaningful games in March.
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We badly need a basket here.
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Stupid foul and totally unnecessary by LoVett.
+1
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hopefully Ponds can get to the line
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Has Diakite officially been assigned a redshirt?
Yes & nowhere close to completing rehab
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Has Diakite officially been assigned a redshirt?
Yes & nowhere close to completing rehab
Good.
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Score
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hopefully Ponds can get to the line
Your hopes were answered.
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One thing this game should teach us is that we really don't want to be in a position where we need two wins in the Big East tournament. Our lack of depth really gets to the team with so many games in a week.
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Geez
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Straight up ugly! Ponds should've taken the shot himself.
Oh, well! We got the W, but depth, shot selection and fouls are gonna be hindrance on several days. We can't do anything about the depth this season, but we gotta clean up the latter two.
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Thank The Lord.....better learn to play against the zone or it will be a long season
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Nice to get out of Orlando 2-1, and to win a game with Ponds not playing well and only scoring 46 points.
That said, there is a LOT that needs to be cleaned up before BE play
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Win and move on... we need get back to the drawing board with a few things though. Doesn't matter. The win is good.
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Big win because it's not a bad loss. 2-1 is fine. Hope the team learns from this (not using their hands on defense/avoiding foul trouble, lovett not taking 20 crazy shots, and more crisp offense against a zone) and they move on.
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Gross win
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As bad as they have played, amazing they can still get out of here with a win & get 2/3 they needed.
For a team with no depth, boy do we commit so many reach in fouls. Will hurt us in long run.
+1
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Unreal. This was the ugliest game I've ever seen. UCF was playing without their best player and first team all-conference guard or they would have won by 15. Simon tried to give the game away at the end with that "pass." Four turnovers today plus that and he dribbled the ball off his foot that was recovered by us. That was on like 30 dribbles. 9 turnovers in two games.
We miss Mussini badly.
Jesus Christ, Coach Mullin, go zone!!! Are you kidding?!
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Yesterday I thought Marillac was overly negative. Today I think he may be correct we win but looked awfull
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Is that a real score? Holy crap
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Ponds, LoVett 6/32
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Take the win, burn the tape, move on.
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Yesterday I thought Marillac was overly negative. Today I think he may be correct we win but looked awfull
We have a PG playing SG instead of getting into the lane and a SF who can't dribble handling the ball. Simon's final pass is a game-ending turnover against any team in the Big East. Maybe the NBA no-position thing works with a better roster but not this one. This team has the talent they just need some goddamn rules. Clark don't ever shoot unless your feet are set and don't dribble. Simon 1-2 dribbles in the half court and post up. Lovett you are a PG....get into the lane. Bash sit
in the corner and shoot treys.
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Ponds, LoVett 6/32
Ponds can have a bad game after his performance v. Missouri...LoVett with two horrible no show games in a row now
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Didn't Yakwe face up and get by guys at will as a freshman? Why is that off the table?
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Doesn't matter so long as that isn't what we keep seeing...doesn't bode well for conference play but hoping it'll change.
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Luckily it's still very early in the season, and we only have one narrow loss to a decent team on our record. Plenty of time to get better at these things. Just keep winning the OOC games we should.
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Horrible game but it's a win.
Should be 7-1 going into the Grand Canyon game.
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Got out with a win: doesn't matter whether by 3 or 30. Ugly as sin, but an ugly win sure as hell beats an ugly loss, and maybe the team actually pays attention this week when we work on our offense against the zone.
Tough to get up for a noon game on a Sunday in an empty gym against a bad team when you wanted to be in the finals. I know, the kids on the team are not as hungry or as focused as we fans who've waited such a long time to finally build the kind of team that dances every year. We're not there yet, but we're 6 and 1 and have 5 more important games before we start BE play. It's still all out there for us. Let's use this week to get better and ready for our 2 West Coast games.
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As the announcer said, they play hard, they have talent, but they're not very cerebral.
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UCF has almost 70,000 students and we had more fans 15 minutes from their campus. Crazy.
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Win and move on... we need get back to the drawing board with a few things though. Doesn't matter. The win is good.
Exactly. 6-1 is 6-1.
It was painful to watch, but a win is a win. As bad as we were running our offense, they were worse. They have a lot to work on so they are ready for the next time they play. Clearly, we’re getting zoned until we show that we can handle it. Right now, we can’t.
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Take the win, anyway they can get it. Let’s remember, they are playing 3 games in 4 days. Expect a sloppy game. However way too many negatives to take away from this game. Bash has just not learned to be better with ball. Guy throws a 25 foot pass to a running Yakwe with a guy on him. Can’t have that. Too slow to get offense going in the zone. If we are going to beat teams in big east, that has to be cleaned up. Fouls are a huge problem. Averaging 20 a game. Need better technique.
LoVett too fast for his own good. Yes he can beat man off dribble, but has to learn to take better shots. Ponds was my mvp of tourney, but guy that really stepped up was Yakwe. Played tough and really did a great job at line. If he turns corner, that’s a huge plus.
6-1 guys, with a big week a head of them.
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This site is so negative my goodness. Our two best players went 6 for 32 against a top 70 team ( Kenpom rankings has them exactly at 70) in Florida and we came out with the win. What the hell is wrong with you people.
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Our guys were exhausted. So were their guys.
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Good point on the attrition, it was evident. They now have six full days to practice against the zone, on top of a cupcake Sacred Heart zone that they can gain confidence with next Saturday afternoon.
I would think that they're flying out to Phoenix next Sunday night, and then will spend 12/6-12/8 in what is the biggest stretch of road games that the program has seen since the 2014-15 season.
To be flying back at 2-1 was the goal and it was accomplished. The team needs to make adjustments but that comes with any season. They are taking care of business with wins over Nebraska, Oregon St. UCF, one solid loss to Missouri.
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This site is so negative my goodness. Our two best players went 6 for 32 against a top 70 team ( Kenpom rankings has them exactly at 70) in Florida and we came out with the win. What the hell is wrong with you people.
KenPom rankings are useless 5 games in. They just lost by 40 to WV Friday! 0-4 Marist lost by 8 to WV Thursday. UCF's best player didn't play. This game was awful. Any team in the Big East would have won by 20 today. There is nothing positive to take from this tournament other than a 2-1 record which last year's team could have achieved. Yay we beat a mid-major without their best player in the loser's bracket of an 8-team tournament because their player couldn't hold onto the ball that Simon placed in his hands with 38 seconds left.
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To be flying back at 2-1 was the goal
In what world was that the goal? We are St. John's not St. Peter's.
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Our guys were exhausted. So were their guys.
If 18-22 year olds were exhausted by playing 3 games in 4 days we need a new conditioning coach
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Was a complete chore of a Sunday morning but 6-1 feels nice, 3rd place is ok, safe flight to all down in Florida.
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To be flying back at 2-1 was the goal
In what world was that the goal? We are St. John's not St. Peter's.
Simon wants to know when your celery & water diet is over. :)
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NIT
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With a glass half-full view on this, we are 6-1 and had a good shot to be 7-0 primarily because our defense is much improved this season. Our offense is what has been atrocious and to tell the truth. That is really our strength. We aren't showing it right now, and when we do start hitting it our stride, we are gonna be pretty good. Very happy to get a win here and keep building our resume'. We are certainly going to get a lot better by season's end...
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With a glass half-full view on this, we are 6-1 and had a good shot to be 7-0 primarily because our defense is much improved this season. Our offense is what has been atrocious and to tell the truth. That is really our strength. We aren't showing it right now, and when we do start hitting it our stride, we are gonna be pretty good. Very happy to get a win here and keep building our resume'. We are certainly going to get a lot better by season's end...
The only good thing about today's game was the team who finished with the most points. Everything else was terrible. And no they are not that close to being 7-0 since if they somehow managed to win the Mizzou game they wouldn't have played UCF but rather WVU. And WVU would have hung a 25 point loss on them today...
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To be flying back at 2-1 was the goal
In what world was that the goal? We are St. John's not St. Peter's.
Simon wants to know when your celery & water diet is over. :)
Ha!
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NIT
How’s Iona doing this year? 😂😂😂😂
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Didn't Yakwe face up and get by guys at will as a freshman? Why is that off the table?
No, he didn't regularly. If it did happen. It was rare.
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One thing I have been disappointed with is Clark's play. Sure, he can step out and hit some 3's but I was expecting more from him off the dribble and in the paint (thinking Brownlee). Against a zone like today, you get the ball to him in the gap and he should go to work. Ahmed will be key against zones going forward because he can hit from mid-range or take it to the hoop.
Overall, offense needs a lot of work. They are playing way too reckless and fast.
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Post game quotes
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/112617aac.html
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Our guys were exhausted. So were their guys.
If 18-22 year olds were exhausted by playing 3 games in 4 days we need a new conditioning coach
Maybe we do, but both teams looked to me like they were playing tired.
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A little surprised that Trimble didn’t play a minute. He ok?
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A little surprised that Trimble didn’t play a minute. He ok?
Flu
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With a glass half-full view on this, we are 6-1 and had a good shot to be 7-0 primarily because our defense is much improved this season. Our offense is what has been atrocious and to tell the truth. That is really our strength. We aren't showing it right now, and when we do start hitting it our stride, we are gonna be pretty good. Very happy to get a win here and keep building our resume'. We are certainly going to get a lot better by season's end...
The only good thing about today's game was the team who finished with the most points. Everything else was terrible. And no they are not that close to being 7-0 since if they somehow managed to win the Mizzou game they wouldn't have played UCF but rather WVU. And WVU would have hung a 25 point loss on them today...
The only good thing to me was that I did not have to pay to watch this game.
Only "positive" is that this is the first SJU team to win 6 games in November.
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With a glass half-full view on this, we are 6-1 and had a good shot to be 7-0 primarily because our defense is much improved this season. Our offense is what has been atrocious and to tell the truth. That is really our strength. We aren't showing it right now, and when we do start hitting it our stride, we are gonna be pretty good. Very happy to get a win here and keep building our resume'. We are certainly going to get a lot better by season's end...
The only good thing about today's game was the team who finished with the most points. Everything else was terrible. And no they are not that close to being 7-0 since if they somehow managed to win the Mizzou game they wouldn't have played UCF but rather WVU. And WVU would have hung a 25 point loss on them today...
The only good thing to me was that I did not have to pay to watch this game.
Only "positive" is that this is the first SJU team to win 6 games in November.
That's quite a big positive for us.
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I only followed this game online because I wasn't in front of a TV. While we obviously did not play well, winning games matters, to state the obvious. We've had some bad losses in the non-con the last few years, and to avoid that thus far is a good sign. Teams get better, and I think this group will improve. We've had plenty of years - see Lavin's first year as an example - where we played poorly during the early season non-con and eeked out games against mediocre or subpar opponents (like today). But learning to win, ugly or otherwise, is a good thing.
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The baldi man is back! ;D ;D
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To be flying back at 2-1 was the goal
In what world was that the goal? We are St. John's not St. Peter's.
It was a rough game. 6-1. I’ll take it.
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Unreal. This was the ugliest game I've ever seen. UCF was playing without their best player and first team all-conference guard or they would have won by 15. Simon tried to give the game away at the end with that "pass." Four turnovers today plus that and he dribbled the ball off his foot that was recovered by us. That was on like 30 dribbles. 9 turnovers in two games.
We miss Mussini badly.
Jesus Christ, Coach Mullin, go zone!!! Are you kidding?!
Mussini comment completely discredits this post.
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To be flying back at 2-1 was the goal
In what world was that the goal? We are St. John's not St. Peter's.
6-1 at this point in the season is fine. It could be much worse.
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Big win because it's not a bad loss. 2-1 is fine. Hope the team learns from this (not using their hands on defense/avoiding foul trouble, lovett not taking 20 crazy shots, and more crisp offense against a zone) and they move on.
I hope you mean not using their feet
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Ugly win beats pretty loss, onto next.
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Same thing happened at Atlantis. 2 good games than the wheels came off in the third.
We held a D1 team to 43 points on neutral or less than court.
Winning with Walden scoring his first point 30 minutes in and getting his first basket 36 minutes in was a miracle.
Simon 5 for 5 from 3 on the year. MC hammer 10 for 17.
Love it's defensive pressure and hands were a revelation this tourney.
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The staff now has a week to go over the tape and correct some stuff before a cupcake game on Saturday then the west coast trip. The top 3 things I'd like to see the staff emphasize this week:
1. Shot selection: It's the most underrated thing in basketball. Way too many bad shots early in the shot clock, mostly by Lovett but he's not just him. We have two guys in Lovett and Ponds that can create their own shot at the end of the shot clock if need be. The first 25 seconds should be spent moving the ball around to get layups or open 3s. Lovett taking long contested 2s with 22 left on the shot clock is as good as a turnover.
2. When to help and when not to help. Specifically in the Missouri game we got burned too often by guys helping off their man when they didn't have to leaving shooters wide open. Lovett, Ponds and Simon are quick and haven't been getting beat off the dribble much thus far so there is no need for help anytime somebody tries to drive on them. We also have rim protectors like Owens or Yakwe on the court most of the time to block a shot if a guy does get beat off the dribble.
3. Pick and Pop D. Porter got too many easy 3 looks just from a simple pick and pop. Teams with bigs that can step out and make shots will hurt us if we don't correct this.
Oregon State and Mizzou actually had better 3 point shooting % than 2 point shooting % against us. Small sample size but something to keep an eye on
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We have the best backcourt in the Big East according to everyone, so then why are Ahmed and Simon allowed to rack up NINE turnovers (that could easily have been 12 without extreme good fortune)? Why is Lovett relegated to a SG role when he can get to the basket at will?
Time to establish the post on a regular basis with Simon and Clark. Run some offense through them. Let's get back to setting multiple screens every set and formthr love of God teach Clark and Yakwe to stand still on their screens. We've got a 6'7 230 forward, use it. Make the opposing guards collide with him every possession and let's see how they look with 5-10 minutes left.
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
agreed. young as in experience playing on the floor at the same time but definitely not young as in age
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
agreed. young as in experience playing on the floor at the same time but definitely not young as in age
That is what I meant genius... bunch of whiney bitches on this board.
Once again, anyone who would not have settled for 8-1 going into ASU game is just plain dumb. Plus, we start three sophomores & two transfers. Obviously it’s going to take 5-10 games to feel comfortable playing together.
Ahmed & the Italian kid is addition by subtraction.... and Lovett is not going anywhere unless he wants a career in China.
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
agreed. young as in experience playing on the floor at the same time but definitely not young as in age
That is what I meant u nice persons.... bunch of whiney bitches on this board.
Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
agreed. young as in experience playing on the floor at the same time but definitely not young as in age
That is what I meant u nice persons.... bunch of whiney bitches on this board.
Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
And I’m suppose to give a shit about that why?... I’m talkin about OUR team genius.
Plus, if Clark doesn’t get in foul trouble because of some of the worst refs I’ve ever seen... we are 7-0 right now... but I’m sure u whiners would find something else to complain about. :idiot2:
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
Is this a serious post?..lol.. I thought this was a SJU “fan” board.... guess not.
What a bunch of crybabies!
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
WRONG.... we already have two transfers waiting on deck so we will NOT be bringing in three frosh mr. basketball genius.lol
Dixon would be a sophomore & would replace Lovett IF he did leave. Plus, Keita who I think would be a junior to replace the contributions of both the Italian kid & Ahmed combined...which would not be hard because Ahmed gives up more points than he is worth.
Plus Keita would allow Clark to move to the PF spot where he belongs.
So where are these 3 freshmen u are talkin about?
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
WRONG.... we already have two transfers waiting on deck so we will NOT be bringing in three frosh mr. basketball genius.lol
Dixon would be a sophomore & would replace Lovett IF he did leave. Plus, Keita who I think would be a junior to replace the contributions of both the Italian kid & Ahmed combined...which would not be hard because Ahmed gives up more points than he is worth.
Plus Keita would allow Clark to move to the PF spot where he belongs.
So where are these 3 freshmen u are talkin about?
You sound insane...chill out.
Next year we already have three freshmen signed: Diakate, Josh Roberts, and Greg Williams. There will likely be another added. Our two transfers sitting out will only be sophomores along with Trimble. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
You could say that about most teams at this point in the year. Not sure what your point is?
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UCF recap: http://www.bigeastboards.com/
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People need to relax. This YOUNG team was playing it’s 3rd game in 4 days. With the pace we play at it was obvious some fatigue had set in by second half.
A win is a win. U take it and move on folks. And anyone criticizing Justin Simon needs their head examined. Besides ponds he has been our best player. Sure he has to cut down on the turnovers which I’m sure the staff will address with him.
Anyone who wouldn’t have signed off on SJU being 6-1 right now is lying or dumb. Imo, we will be 8-1 going into the ASU game. Nobody could have asked for better than that from this squad.
The team isn't that young. Ahmed is a 24 year old senior, Alibegovic is a senior, Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college, Lovett and Simon are in their third years, and Ponds is a sophomore that averaged over 35 mpg for his career. We only have one freshman. We'll be younger next year losing Alibegovic, Ahmed, and likely Lovett and bringing in three freshmen.
WRONG.... we already have two transfers waiting on deck so we will NOT be bringing in three frosh mr. basketball genius.lol
Dixon would be a sophomore & would replace Lovett IF he did leave. Plus, Keita who I think would be a junior to replace the contributions of both the Italian kid & Ahmed combined...which would not be hard because Ahmed gives up more points than he is worth.
Plus Keita would allow Clark to move to the PF spot where he belongs.
So where are these 3 freshmen u are talkin about?
You sound insane...chill out.
Next year we already have three freshmen signed: Diakate, Josh Roberts, and Greg Williams. There will likely be another added. Our two transfers sitting out will only be sophomores along with Trimble. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
And u sound like a whiney cunt.... I was responding to the fact he said all we had were three frosh coming into replace Ahmed, AA and Lovett if he left... all I did was point out that those players would be replaced by transfers we already had on the roster... not any frosh being brought in dopey.... Plus, Diakite is with the team already as a red-shirt... and Williams will be riding the bench for two years. Only the young PF might have a shot at some PT next year.
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
You could say that about most teams at this point in the year. Not sure what your point is?
Bingo!
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
You could say that about most teams at this point in the year. Not sure what your point is?
Bingo!
This is not 7 games . Their is a pattern of almost 70 games where we suck. Yes we are improved . But we still suck.
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Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
Wut? MU has three seniors and six juniors. Of their first six players in minutes played four are upper classmen averaging 107 minutes between them and the other two are freshmen, one of those 6'10 and one 6'11", averaging 38 minutes. St John's first five includes three second year players and two first year players who account for 150 minutes per game. Talk about choosing your own facts, good grief.
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
You could say that about most teams at this point in the year. Not sure what your point is?
Bingo!
This is not 7 games . Their is a pattern of almost 70 games where we suck. Yes we are improved . But we still suck.
You have a pattern of 3500 posts where you're an imbecile, that doesn't mean the next one's going to be dumb as well. But then I'm an optimist.
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Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
Wut? MU has three seniors and six juniors. Of their first six players in minutes played four are upper classmen averaging 107 minutes between them and the other two are freshmen, one of those 6'10 and one 6'11", averaging 38 minutes. St John's first five includes three second year players and two first year players who account for 150 minutes per game. Talk about choosing your own facts, good grief.
Not to mention their top 3 scorers are all upper classmen. I'm not saying we shouldn't be disappointed in losing to Mizzou, especially since we battled back and took the lead. But it's not a game worth having a melt down about and still complaining about four days later.
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I remember Malik Sealy’s senior year we lost at Miami. It was awful. I don’t believe either team reached 50 points. That one stung because Miami was brand new and they had no business taking out our seniors.
Point is, it was nothing more than a really, really off day.
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I remember Malik Sealy’s senior year we lost at Miami. It was awful. I don’t believe either team reached 50 points. That one stung because Miami was brand new and they had no business taking out our seniors.
Point is, it was nothing more than a really, really off day.
I don’t want to miss it. When will the day we play well?
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
You could say that about most teams at this point in the year. Not sure what your point is?
Bingo!
This is not 7 games . Their is a pattern of almost 70 games where we suck. Yes we are improved . But we still suck.
U my friend are an absolute nice person..... go root for ‘nova u whiney bitch.
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I remember Malik Sealy’s senior year we lost at Miami. It was awful. I don’t believe either team reached 50 points. That one stung because Miami was brand new and they had no business taking out our seniors.
Point is, it was nothing more than a really, really off day.
I don’t want to miss it. When will the day we play well?
You watch the Nebraska game bro?
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We are 6-1. Not because we are good or played well. We just played worse teams then us. Their crap level of play will not continue to produce wins. Nebraska, Oregon State, and this awful depleted central Florida team wouldn’t win a game in the big east. Enjoy being 6-1.
From memory, I remember norm Roberts going undefeated before conference started one year. That team sucked . It didn’t last!
You could say that about most teams at this point in the year. Not sure what your point is?
Bingo!
This is not 7 games . Their is a pattern of almost 70 games where we suck. Yes we are improved . But we still suck.
You have a pattern of 3500 posts where you're an imbecile, that doesn't mean the next one's going to be dumb as well. But then I'm an optimist.
Excellent retort..LOL... This bozo is a nova fan in a jack ass’ clothing.
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Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
Wut? MU has three seniors and six juniors. Of their first six players in minutes played four are upper classmen averaging 107 minutes between them and the other two are freshmen, one of those 6'10 and one 6'11", averaging 38 minutes. St John's first five includes three second year players and two first year players who account for 150 minutes per game. Talk about choosing your own facts, good grief.
Mizzou has two seniors on scholarship and both are transfers. They have ten players who have averaged 10.3 mpg or more and have played all seven games:
Kassius Robertson - first year with Mizzou; grad transfer from the MAAC
Kevin Puryear - junior
Jordan Barnett - senior transfer playing in his second year with Mizzou
Jontay Porter - true freshman who turned 18 last week and re-classified from 2019 class
Jeremiah Tilmon - true freshman
Jordan Geist - first year with Mizzou; JUCO transfer
Cullen Vanleer - junior
Terrence Philllips - junior
Blake Harris - true freshman
Reed Nikko - sophomore
Ahmed - Senior
Alibegovic - Senior
Owens - Fourth year junior
Clark - Fourth year junior
Yakwe - Junior
Lovett- Third year soph
Simon - Third year soph
Ponds - True soph
Trimble - True freshman
I don't see how we are considered young every year and how that's a valid excuse compared to a team like Mizzou who is clearly overcoming more adjustments with a brand new staff, six new players, and their best player (a freshman) ruled out for the season the day before the tournament. Next year we will likely be younger when we replace Ahmed, Alibegovic, and Lovett with at least three freshmen and two redshirt sophs.
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I remember Malik Sealy’s senior year we lost at Miami. It was awful. I don’t believe either team reached 50 points. That one stung because Miami was brand new and they had no business taking out our seniors.
Point is, it was nothing more than a really, really off day.
I don’t want to miss it. When will the day we play well?
Never because WE aren't doing anything, certainly you're not...
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Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
Wut? MU has three seniors and six juniors. Of their first six players in minutes played four are upper classmen averaging 107 minutes between them and the other two are freshmen, one of those 6'10 and one 6'11", averaging 38 minutes. St John's first five includes three second year players and two first year players who account for 150 minutes per game. Talk about choosing your own facts, good grief.
Mizzou has two seniors on scholarship and both are transfers. They have ten players who have averaged 10.3 mpg or more and have played all seven games:
Kassius Robertson - first year with Mizzou; grad transfer from the MAAC
Kevin Puryear - junior
Jordan Barnett - senior transfer playing in his second year with Mizzou
Jontay Porter - true freshman who turned 18 last week and re-classified from 2019 class
Jeremiah Tilmon - true freshman
Jordan Geist - first year with Mizzou; JUCO transfer
Cullen Vanleer - junior
Terrence Philllips - junior
Blake Harris - true freshman
Reed Nikko - sophomore
Ahmed - Senior
Alibegovic - Senior
Owens - Fourth year junior
Clark - Fourth year junior
Yakwe - Junior
Lovett- Third year soph
Simon - Third year soph
Ponds - True soph
Trimble - True freshman
I don't see how we are considered young every year and how that's a valid excuse compared to a team like Mizzou who is clearly overcoming more adjustments with a brand new staff, six new players, and their best player (a freshman) ruled out for the season the day before the tournament. Next year we will likely be younger when we replace Ahmed, Alibegovic, and Lovett with at least three freshmen and two redshirt sophs.
U need to get a life u nova loving pos..... if U don’t think this isn’t the best team we’ve had in 10 years u r a complete $%^in nice person.
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That was an all time ugly game. We won and we can move on and never speak of it again.
Outside of a couple games I think we have done a good job with my biggest worry of getting killed on the boards. I think Marvin Clark will certainly pick it up and other than the depth problem that we can't do anything about, I feel good about this team. I am not worried about the zone. Ponds has bot really shot a good % all year and that will get better and Lovett and Clark have nice strokes.
Other than depth i think the one issue that will hurt us is we don't really have someone that can get us an easy basket. I think we can play better and we are right where we should be. Would have def signed up for 6-1 at this point.
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Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
Wut? MU has three seniors and six juniors. Of their first six players in minutes played four are upper classmen averaging 107 minutes between them and the other two are freshmen, one of those 6'10 and one 6'11", averaging 38 minutes. St John's first five includes three second year players and two first year players who account for 150 minutes per game. Talk about choosing your own facts, good grief.
Mizzou has two seniors on scholarship and both are transfers. They have ten players who have averaged 10.3 mpg or more and have played all seven games:
Kassius Robertson - first year with Mizzou; grad transfer from the MAAC
Kevin Puryear - junior
Jordan Barnett - senior transfer playing in his second year with Mizzou
Jontay Porter - true freshman who turned 18 last week and re-classified from 2019 class
Jeremiah Tilmon - true freshman
Jordan Geist - first year with Mizzou; JUCO transfer
Cullen Vanleer - junior
Terrence Philllips - junior
Blake Harris - true freshman
Reed Nikko - sophomore
Ahmed - Senior
Alibegovic - Senior
Owens - Fourth year junior
Clark - Fourth year junior
Yakwe - Junior
Lovett- Third year soph
Simon - Third year soph
Ponds - True soph
Trimble - True freshman
I don't see how we are considered young every year and how that's a valid excuse compared to a team like Mizzou who is clearly overcoming more adjustments with a brand new staff, six new players, and their best player (a freshman) ruled out for the season the day before the tournament. Next year we will likely be younger when we replace Ahmed, Alibegovic, and Lovett with at least three freshmen and two redshirt sophs.
U need to get a life u nova loving pos..... if U don’t think this isn’t the best team we’ve had in 10 years u r a complete $%^in nice person.
I hate Nova and the 2011 team was clearly better.
You're off to a great start as a member here. Classy fella.
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Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
Wut? MU has three seniors and six juniors. Of their first six players in minutes played four are upper classmen averaging 107 minutes between them and the other two are freshmen, one of those 6'10 and one 6'11", averaging 38 minutes. St John's first five includes three second year players and two first year players who account for 150 minutes per game. Talk about choosing your own facts, good grief.
Mizzou has two seniors on scholarship and both are transfers. They have ten players who have averaged 10.3 mpg or more and have played all seven games:
Kassius Robertson - first year with Mizzou; grad transfer from the MAAC
Kevin Puryear - junior
Jordan Barnett - senior transfer playing in his second year with Mizzou
Jontay Porter - true freshman who turned 18 last week and re-classified from 2019 class
Jeremiah Tilmon - true freshman
Jordan Geist - first year with Mizzou; JUCO transfer
Cullen Vanleer - junior
Terrence Philllips - junior
Blake Harris - true freshman
Reed Nikko - sophomore
Ahmed - Senior
Alibegovic - Senior
Owens - Fourth year junior
Clark - Fourth year junior
Yakwe - Junior
Lovett- Third year soph
Simon - Third year soph
Ponds - True soph
Trimble - True freshman
I don't see how we are considered young every year and how that's a valid excuse compared to a team like Mizzou who is clearly overcoming more adjustments with a brand new staff, six new players, and their best player (a freshman) ruled out for the season the day before the tournament. Next year we will likely be younger when we replace Ahmed, Alibegovic, and Lovett with at least three freshmen and two redshirt sophs.
In the first place, no
(http://theweasels.com/mizzou.JPG)
In the second, why do you carefully parse Missouri's players to demonstrate their alleged youth and inexperience - "senior transfer playing in his second year with Mizzou", " true freshman who turned 18 last week and re-classified from 2019 class" - and about SJU players you say "Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college" and "Lovett and Simon are in their third years", whereas Clark and Simon have played a combined 10 games for SJU and Owens and Lovett have played a year. You're cherry picking facts and skewing the analysis.
Cuonzo Martic's been coaching for 10 years, no doubt he's a better coach than Mullin. I wouldn't argue with that. That SJU isn't a young team - meaning that first team has played together for a month - I don't see how that's arguable.
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We are 6-1...We all should be happy with the start of the season.....should be 8-1 going into Arizona State and a 10-2 or 11-1 record before big east play is not out of the picture.....yes we have not played the best teams but still 3 top 100 wins and we are doing this without our offense producing what it did last year is a great sign. The team also seems to enjoy playing with each other and they have not quit. Last year we lose Oregon State and UCF games.
Lets all take a step back and before we jump off a cliff realize this is exactly what we wanted 7 games into the year.
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I remember Malik Sealy’s senior year we lost at Miami. It was awful. I don’t believe either team reached 50 points. That one stung because Miami was brand new and they had no business taking out our seniors.
Point is, it was nothing more than a really, really off day.
I don’t want to miss it. When will the day we play well?
Every player is entitled to an off game. Ponds was really off for the first 35 minutes. It happens. If he has a typical game, we win by 20+.
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We're 6-1.
Have beaten 3 top 100 teams, according to the Kenpom rankings, and have really only played a true complete game once.
We won against a team ranked above us in BPI yesterday (albeit ugly and they were missing a key player) with our best player scoring his first FG of the game with 5 minutes left in the second half.
We're ranked first in the BE in almost every defensive category.
I don't get all the complaining. We're obviously not winning a national championship this year (or anytime in the near future), but this is a fun and competitive team that should contend for an NCAA berth once they put it all together. We're going to look good winning some games, and terrible losing others, but enjoy it, and stop with the complaints.
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We're 6-1.
Have beaten 3 top 100 teams, according to the Kenpom rankings, and have really only played a true complete game once.
We won against a team ranked above us in BPI yesterday (albeit ugly and they were missing a key player) with our best player scoring his first FG of the game with 5 minutes left in the second half.
We're ranked first in the BE in almost every defensive category.
I don't get all the complaining. We're obviously not winning a national championship this year (or anytime in the near future), but this is a fun and competitive team that should contend for an NCAA berth once they put it all together. We're going to look good winning some games, and terrible losing others, but enjoy it, and stop with the complaints.
+1
To add to this, we're 6-1 despite Shamorie shooting 20% from 3 and 37% from the field. He's averaging 6/16 shooting (42/111) over 6 games combined with terrible shot selection. Imagine the pop that we'll get when he rounds back into his freshman shooting form and becomes more disciplined.
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
Agreed... but I understand them. Because they are coming from the closet pukon/nova fans crawling like maggots on this board.
U would have to be a complete nice person not to see the potential of this team.
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
Agreed... but I understand them. Because they are coming from the closet pukon/nova fans crawling like maggots on this board.
U would have to be a complete nice person not to see the potential of this team.
To be fair to all the "nice persons" out there are you talking about potential for this year or for the years going forward??
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Mizzou has five freshmen, two sophomores, and it's starting backcourt is comprised of first year transfers (Juco and grad). Their lone senior is a transfer who is playing his second season. And they have a new coach and staff to boot.
Wut? MU has three seniors and six juniors. Of their first six players in minutes played four are upper classmen averaging 107 minutes between them and the other two are freshmen, one of those 6'10 and one 6'11", averaging 38 minutes. St John's first five includes three second year players and two first year players who account for 150 minutes per game. Talk about choosing your own facts, good grief.
Mizzou has two seniors on scholarship and both are transfers. They have ten players who have averaged 10.3 mpg or more and have played all seven games:
Kassius Robertson - first year with Mizzou; grad transfer from the MAAC
Kevin Puryear - junior
Jordan Barnett - senior transfer playing in his second year with Mizzou
Jontay Porter - true freshman who turned 18 last week and re-classified from 2019 class
Jeremiah Tilmon - true freshman
Jordan Geist - first year with Mizzou; JUCO transfer
Cullen Vanleer - junior
Terrence Philllips - junior
Blake Harris - true freshman
Reed Nikko - sophomore
Ahmed - Senior
Alibegovic - Senior
Owens - Fourth year junior
Clark - Fourth year junior
Yakwe - Junior
Lovett- Third year soph
Simon - Third year soph
Ponds - True soph
Trimble - True freshman
I don't see how we are considered young every year and how that's a valid excuse compared to a team like Mizzou who is clearly overcoming more adjustments with a brand new staff, six new players, and their best player (a freshman) ruled out for the season the day before the tournament. Next year we will likely be younger when we replace Ahmed, Alibegovic, and Lovett with at least three freshmen and two redshirt sophs.
In the first place, no
(http://theweasels.com/mizzou.JPG)
In the second, why do you carefully parse Missouri's players to demonstrate their alleged youth and inexperience - "senior transfer playing in his second year with Mizzou", " true freshman who turned 18 last week and re-classified from 2019 class" - and about SJU players you say "Clark and Owens are in their fourth years in college" and "Lovett and Simon are in their third years", whereas Clark and Simon have played a combined 10 games for SJU and Owens and Lovett have played a year. You're cherry picking facts and skewing the analysis.
Cuonzo Martic's been coaching for 10 years, no doubt he's a better coach than Mullin. I wouldn't argue with that. That SJU isn't a young team - meaning that first team has played together for a month - I don't see how that's arguable.
(1) Brett Rau is a walkon that has played in six games in two years. Might as well count Jay Camus as a junior for us then too.
(2) Both teams have plenty of upperclassmen but Mizzous best player is a freshman and a week ago their best two players were freshmen. Our best player is a Soph.
(3) I added the time in college because it is an advantage. Surely you would agree that an extra year of practicing with a team and getting to know the team/school/players represent an advantage over a true member that class.
(4) The hardest thing to overcome with young teams is true freshmen and that is not something we really have to worry about.
(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
Agreed... but I understand them. Because they are coming from the closet pukon/nova fans crawling like maggots on this board.
U would have to be a complete nice person not to see the potential of this team.
To be fair to all the "nice persons" out there are you talking about potential for this year or for the years going forward??
After Brian Mahoney's first year did anyone see the potential for us to suck like we did?
After Jarvis first 2 seasons and with Omar Cook coming in did anyone foresee what was going to happen?
After making the tourney and grabbing all of those top 100 kids did anyone think Lavin era would eventually be considered a failure? For the record I don't see it that way but most on here do.
After terrible recruiting , worse coaching and terrible post game comments did anyone think Norm Roberts would be considered the absolute worst coach in the history of sports? Trick question. You ALL should have seen that coming but for some reason a lot of you chose not to. Now some of those same Norm apologists are jumping ship on the face of the program after 2 years and 7 games when the team has shown improvement every year. Very baffling!
Any who, who cares about the future? We are ST John's . At some point in the near future our team will suck. This team doesn't. Enjoy it and stop bitching!!
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
Agreed... but I understand them. Because they are coming from the closet pukon/nova fans crawling like maggots on this board.
U would have to be a complete nice person not to see the potential of this team.
To be fair to all the "nice persons" out there are you talking about potential for this year or for the years going forward??
After Brian Mahoney's first year did anyone see the potential for us to suck like we did?
After Jarvis first 2 seasons and with Omar Cook coming in did anyone foresee what was going to happen?
After making the tourney and grabbing all of those top 100 kids did anyone think Lavin era would eventually be considered a failure? For the record I don't see it that way but most on here do.
After terrible recruiting , worse coaching and terrible post game comments did anyone think Norm Roberts would be considered the absolute worst coach in the history of sports? Trick question. You ALL should have seen that coming but for some reason a lot of you chose not to. Now some of those same Norm apologists are jumping ship on the face of the program after 2 years and 7 games when the team has shown improvement every year. Very baffling!
Any who, who cares about the future? We are ST John's . At some point in the near future our team will suck. This team doesn't. Enjoy it and stop bitching!!
As a youngster I'll excuse myself from anything pre norm. We don't know yet if this team will suck or not suck. Many are concerned about similar characteristics like lack of desire to box out, lack of ability to defend the 3 and poor shot selection that has existed in the last few previous atrocious years. Also, looking forward is the entire lifeblood of college sports. Recruitimg exists because the future of a program is always the number one concern.
Looking back to advocare and the ucf game I'm very perturbed as to why boxing out isn't being made a bigger point of emphasis by our coaches. If we're going to start an extremely small lineup bashir Ahmed needs to be working his butt off boxing out taller players instead of just standing under the rim trying to out jump everyone.
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
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After terrible recruiting , worse coaching and terrible post game comments did anyone think Norm Roberts would be considered the absolute worst coach in the history of sports? Trick question.
Mike Jarvis #4
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1711021-ranking-the-10-most-disastrous-coaching-tenures-in-college-basketball-history
Brian Mahoney #24, Mike Jarvis #33
https://www.ranker.com/list/worst-college-basketball-coaches-of-all-time/ranker-ncaa-basketball
Brian Mahoney #9
https://athlonsports.com/college-basketball/college-basketballs-worst-coaching-tenures-1984-85
Stop the hate
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid) who used us being young as an excuse for our poor play. We are about as old as we'll ever be and about as old as you'd ever want a properly balanced team to be. We've already seen what losing nine seniors does to a program.
We may not be losing, but we played poorly against bad teams. UCF was without its starting backcourt and one of those kids is 1st all-conference and the best player they've had in a decade. They missed wide open shot after wide open shot. Other than UCF, the defense was actually pretty good and that is a good sign.
I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
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After terrible recruiting , worse coaching and terrible post game comments did anyone think Norm Roberts would be considered the absolute worst coach in the history of sports? Trick question.
Mike Jarvis #4
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1711021-ranking-the-10-most-disastrous-coaching-tenures-in-college-basketball-history
Brian Mahoney #24, Mike Jarvis #33
https://www.ranker.com/list/worst-college-basketball-coaches-of-all-time/ranker-ncaa-basketball
Brian Mahoney #9
https://athlonsports.com/college-basketball/college-basketballs-worst-coaching-tenures-1984-85
Stop the hate
Jarvis gave me two fun years and Hatten.
Mahoney gave me one fun year and recruited the best HS kid in the country to come to ST John's
Norm gave me terrible quotes and Eugene Lawrence. I want a recount!!
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I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
Dude. It's November.
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
20 is being pretty optimistic but yeah, is this team real bad? No it's not. But is this team real good? No it's probably not. It's the 3rd best team of the past 10 years, but 6 of the last 10 years were amongst the 15 worst years of all time. It's poorly constructed but at least it has the best 1-2 scoring PG punch in the nation, right? I think they'll be fun to watch, will flirt with 500 in conference and if they can get by with 3 or less OOC losses they could be a bubble team. So yeah, the sky isn't falling but it's not kittens and rainbows either, depending on your expectations.
And re experience, by today's standards, this roster is of pretty average experience and above average age. Now they need to get 10 games together under their belt and we'll have a better idea of how much above mediocre they might be once they're entirely comfortable playing together and barring any injury or other problems.
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Granted we figured Porter would play but I don't think many of us had us at 7-0 at this point.
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What matters:
6-1
- 85 points allowed per 100 possession is 12th best in the country
- Top 10 nationally in blocks (45; #4th), steals (65; #9th) and turnovers forced (137; 7th)
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What matters:
6-1
- 85 points allowed per 100 possession is 12th best in the country
- Top 10 nationally in blocks (45; #4th), steals (65; #9th) and turnovers forced (137; 7th)
And statistically Ponds shooting and Clark all around should be better
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid) who used us being young as an excuse for our poor play. We are about as old as we'll ever be and about as old as you'd ever want a properly balanced team to be. We already seen what losing nine seniors does to a program.
We may not be losing, but we played poorly against bad teams. UCF was without its starting backcourt and one of those kids is 1st all-conference and the best player they've had in a decade. They missed wide open shot after wide open shot. Other than UCF, the defense was actually pretty good and that is a good sign.
I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
I don't see how one November win plus or minus makes the difference between the NCAA and NIT and anyway this is a bubble team if all goes well and an NIT team otherwise. Nine or ten wins going into the BE is a best case scenario, especially considering that last year this time they were 2-5 with losses to Old Dominion and Delaware State. The fact is that they're a big man short of respectable and a good big man short of being ranked. The point being that they're short. On the bright side they're fun to watch and they'll be competitive in most games most of the year. Considering where they were two years ago the NIT is a step forward. I'm not dancing around the house, but I'm not hiding on the couch either. I'm cautiously pessimistic.
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Norm gave me terrible quotes and Eugene Lawrence
And Hardy and Brownlee and Kennedy and Horne. Not mention Larry Wright.
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
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Norm gave me terrible quotes and Eugene Lawrence
And Hardy and Brownlee and Kennedy and Horne. Not mention Larry Wright.
Just for the record, Norm is the reason I can't kill any other ST John's coach after him. I am eternally grateful to Lavin for washing away the Norm stink. You know when you get sick or something is bothering you and even if it is only for a couple days, it seems like you can't even remember what it felt like to feel good? That is how Norm made me feel about ST John's basketball.
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid) who used us being young as an excuse for our poor play. We are about as old as we'll ever be and about as old as you'd ever want a properly balanced team to be. We already seen what losing nine seniors does to a program.
We may not be losing, but we played poorly against bad teams. UCF was without its starting backcourt and one of those kids is 1st all-conference and the best player they've had in a decade. They missed wide open shot after wide open shot. Other than UCF, the defense was actually pretty good and that is a good sign.
I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
I don't see how one November win plus or minus makes the difference between the NCAA and NIT and anyway this is a bubble team if all goes well and an NIT team otherwise. Nine or ten wins going into the BE is a best case scenario, especially considering that last year this time they were 2-5 with losses to Old Dominion and Delaware State. The fact is that they're a big man short of respectable and a good big man short of being ranked. The point being that they're short. On the bright side they're fun to watch and they'll be competitive in most games most of the year. Considering where they were two years ago the NIT is a step forward. I'm not dancing around the house, but I'm not hiding on the couch either. I'm cautiously pessimistic.
Normally I'd agree with the November games not being do or die, but this year we look like an NIT team that has a chance to get on the bubble by taking a game or two we shouldn't. It's hard to imagine finishing too far from 9-9 in conference in either direction. So that's 9 plus, let's say wins over Sacred Heart, Grand Canyon, Iona, and St. Joe's. That's still only 19 wins and the Molloy win won't be counted by the committee...so 18 with 13 losses. It's not a pretty picture.
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
Realfan maybe.
Old Red was legit Cray Cray. Not sure could hide it.
Besides I think he would be more likely to defend Mullin. He defended Norm.
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Realfan maybe.
Old Red was legit Cray Cray. Not sure could hide it.
Besides I think he would be more likely to defend Mullin. He defended Norm.
It's certainly not real fan, either. I'm pretty good with this stuff.
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
Agreed... but I understand them. Because they are coming from the closet pukon/nova fans crawling like maggots on this board.
U would have to be a complete nice person not to see the potential of this team.
To be fair to all the "nice persons" out there are you talking about potential for this year or for the years going forward??
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18-21 wins. Other than last game we have been fun to watch.
If you want to get on coaching staff for the horrible lack of depth up front, have at it but I just do not understand the sky is falling posts????
Agreed... but I understand them. Because they are coming from the closet pukon/nova fans crawling like maggots on this board.
U would have to be a complete nice person not to see the potential of this team.
To be fair to all the "nice persons" out there are you talking about potential for this year or for the years going forward??
To be fair if u can’t see the potential on this team u are obviously not SJU fans u babbling pricks.
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That was an all time ugly game. We won and we can move on and never speak of it again.
Outside of a couple games I think we have done a good job with my biggest worry of getting killed on the boards. I think Marvin Clark will certainly pick it up and other than the depth problem that we can't do anything about, I feel good about this team. I am not worried about the zone. Ponds has bot really shot a good % all year and that will get better and Lovett and Clark have nice strokes.
Other than depth i think the one issue that will hurt us is we don't really have someone that can get us an easy basket. I think we can play better and we are right where we should be. Would have def signed up for 6-1 at this point.
Spot on
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid) who used us being young as an excuse for our poor play. We are about as old as we'll ever be and about as old as you'd ever want a properly balanced team to be. We already seen what losing nine seniors does to a program.
We may not be losing, but we played poorly against bad teams. UCF was without its starting backcourt and one of those kids is 1st all-conference and the best player they've had in a decade. They missed wide open shot after wide open shot. Other than UCF, the defense was actually pretty good and that is a good sign.
I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
I don't see how one November win plus or minus makes the difference between the NCAA and NIT and anyway this is a bubble team if all goes well and an NIT team otherwise. Nine or ten wins going into the BE is a best case scenario, especially considering that last year this time they were 2-5 with losses to Old Dominion and Delaware State. The fact is that they're a big man short of respectable and a good big man short of being ranked. The point being that they're short. On the bright side they're fun to watch and they'll be competitive in most games most of the year. Considering where they were two years ago the NIT is a step forward. I'm not dancing around the house, but I'm not hiding on the couch either. I'm cautiously pessimistic.
Normally I'd agree with the November games not being do or die, but this year we look like an NIT team that has a chance to get on the bubble by taking a game or two we shouldn't. It's hard to imagine finishing too far from 9-9 in conference in either direction. So that's 9 plus, let's say wins over Sacred Heart, Grand Canyon, Iona, and St. Joe's. That's still only 19 wins and the Molloy win won't be counted by the committee...so 18 with 13 losses. It's not a pretty picture.
Are U really this delusional nova/pukon lover.... take it to the bank. This team wins 11 games minimum in the Big East....., and please try to keep the posts down to Five lines. There is only so much bullshit I can take in one long winded post.
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I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
Dude. It's November.
No use paying attention to this bozo....,he gets his jollies writing dumb shit lookng for a reaction.... probably a sad lonely pukon fan who have just about fallin off the basketball map..lol
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
LOL ... Has to be Scotch
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I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
Dude. It's November.
No use paying attention to this bozo....,he gets his jollies writing dumb shit lookng for a reaction.... probably a sad lonely pukon fan who have just about fallin off the basketball map..lol
Normally I like it when someone agrees with me...why do I feel like I need a shower?
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
LOL ... Has to be Scotch
I’m more of a Heineken & shot of tequila kind of guy.
But to each his own.(lol)
Go Redmen!!
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I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
Dude. It's November.
No use paying attention to this bozo....,he gets his jollies writing dumb shit lookng for a reaction.... probably a sad lonely pukon fan who have just about fallin off the basketball map..lol
Normally I like it when someone agrees with me...why do I feel like I need a shower?
Hahahaha
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
Realfan maybe.
Old Red was legit Cray Cray. Not sure could hide it.
Besides I think he would be more likely to defend Mullin. He defended Norm.
You're both right - oldfan
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
Realfan maybe.
Old Red was legit Cray Cray. Not sure could hide it.
Besides I think he would be more likely to defend Mullin. He defended Norm.
You're both right - oldfan
Whoever he is, he doesn't look to hit singles. He's swinging for the fences right from the start.
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I'm more upset with what this showing means for the rest of the year. Three neutral wins with WV being one in Orlando and we were an NCAA team. That's likely gone now unless they can knockoff ASU or Duke. That's how razor thin the margin of error is this year with 8-10 wins in conference play almost a lock.
Dude. It's November.
No use paying attention to this bozo....,he gets his jollies writing dumb shit lookng for a reaction.... probably a sad lonely pukon fan who have just about fallin off the basketball map..lol
Normally I like it when someone agrees with me...why do I feel like I need a shower?
Hysterical
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Wow. That guy is out of his mind! Makes foady seem sane!
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Wow. That guy is out of his mind! Makes foady seem sane!
And makes you seem smart!
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Wow. That guy is out of his mind! Makes foady seem sane!
And makes you seem smart!
Yesterday I was having a few beers with my friends from work. We were talking sports. St. John’s came up when they caught me looking at the site. They knew I was a big fan, but they were kind of shocked to know I spent so much time on Johnny jungle . They thoughts that was funny .
We discussed Chris Mullin and the current situation with team. I gave my feelings. I also told them that most fans are very loyal to Mullin and showed them where foady called me a name for saying something bad about our coach. They thought that was hysterical.
So I explained the foad to them. 60 year old loser who spends everyday in a basement calling people names on the internet. When I explained that his handle means -fxck off and die and decorates his profile with Charles manson pictures . They were snorting beer they were laughing so hard. What a bad ass!
Foady- I told them how cool you are also. Changing lavin’s Wikipedia page and all. They may be rube’s but they think you are great!
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A unique a rear of a donkey who would be a fun acquaintance. Love the reviews.
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cnt believe a rear of a donkey was censored....Ive watched my language so long. Besides, it was a rear of a donkey used in a positive, complimentary way.....Hey man, what a beautiful a rear of a donkey......as opposed to "did you see that MFer, what an a rear of a donkey"
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Really??
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Wow. That guy is out of his mind! Makes foady seem sane!
And makes you seem smart!
Yesterday I was having a few beers with my friends from work. We were talking sports. St. John’s came up when they caught me looking at the site. They knew I was a big fan, but they were kind of shocked to know I spent so much time on Johnny jungle . They thoughts that was funny .
We discussed Chris Mullin and the current situation with team. I gave my feelings. I also told them that most fans are very loyal to Mullin and showed them where foady called me a name for saying something bad about our coach. They thought that was hysterical.
So I explained the foad to them. 60 year old loser who spends everyday in a basement calling people names on the internet. When I explained that his handle means -fxck off and die and decorates his profile with Charles manson pictures . They were snorting beer they were laughing so hard. What a bad ass!
Foady- I told them how cool you are also. Changing lavin’s Wikipedia page and all. They may be rube’s but they think you are great!
Sounds like a rollicking night out, sorry to've missed it. I can't imagine having drunk enough beer to find you an interesting topic of conversation, but then I'm not much of a drinker.
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
I'm with ya Dink. It's def old red reincarnated.
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
I'm with ya Dink. It's def old red reincarnated.
Need Maven, Hit and who was Scotch's tag team partner? Southern Johnny? Back
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
I'm with ya Dink. It's def old red reincarnated.
Need Maven, Hit and who was Scotch's tag team partner? Southern Johnny? Back
The good ole days!
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
I'm with ya Dink. It's def old red reincarnated.
Need Maven, Hit and who was Scotch's tag team partner? Southern Johnny? Back
What about Realfan?
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(5) I'm not exactly sure why you want to argue this. It's one thing to excuse losing when you have six new freshmen and a new JUCO transfer like we had in the 2011 class. It's another to make that excuse when more than half your roster is composed of upperclassmen and you have one one frshman that plays slot minutes.
In the first place, we're not losing, so I'm not making excuses. To the contrary we're 6-1, and you're explaining why we should be winning better, or more or something, I'm not even sure. In the second place this is in fact a young team, I don't care how you parse Missouri's roster: the two best players are five games into their sophomore years, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark are first year players who've played 10 games between them in two years. Ahmed is a senior in name only. There's all of two players who have been in the program for more than two years and one of them is Alibewithz and he stinks and the other one's been playing basketball for five years. Have a sandwich for god sake, you're hallucinating.
You jumped in on the side of that lunatic (my best guess is he's the medium t-shirt kid)
I'm confident in saying it's not him (he's on here, though). I believe it's "Old Red" from the Big East Board days.
No way
Too many similarities.
I'm with ya Dink. It's def old red reincarnated.
Need Maven, Hit and who was Scotch's tag team partner? Southern Johnny? Back
Yeah it was southern Johnny right? Let's add die hard Johnny in there too for good measure.
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Was Southern Johnny the one we called Dukie back in the day. If not who was that? (and it was before Tha Kid's time).
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UCF lost to Missouri by 3 . They are descent.
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UCF lost to Missouri by 3 . They are descent.
I saw the first half. Their defense was good and they were hitting shots. Didn’t look like the team that lost to West Virginia.
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BTW UCF just beat #24 Alabama AT Bama.
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BTW UCF just beat #24 Alabama AT Bama.
Yep, good for the SJU RPI
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People will still think it's not a good win vs UCF :).....now let's hope when they are healthy they can make a run in the AAC
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People will still think it's not a good win vs UCF :).....now let's hope when they are healthy they can make a run in the AAC
We played very good defense to hold them to under 50 points. But so did they. Neither team could score that day. People are making too big of a deal about a single game’s offense.