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Title: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: QuanMan on January 10, 2018, 04:04:37 PM
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@Marcus_LoVett is finished playing for the 2017-2018 season...#rehab Stay tuned...St. John Red Storm now & forever #SJUBB @latimessports @nypostsports #family #fans #love #respect

Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: fordham96 on January 10, 2018, 04:07:16 PM
Well at least we got clarity.

And to think we thought day to day meant he may be back after the mini-West coast trip....LOL!!
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 10, 2018, 04:07:51 PM
Jesus
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:10:16 PM
0-18 in play
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Johnny23 on January 10, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
And the hits keep coming. This one seemed destined for this ending.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Celtics11 on January 10, 2018, 04:11:41 PM
Jesus
No LoVett. At least they are already used to playing without him. More PT for the AliB YIPPEE!
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:14:31 PM
I think the same Doctor that claimed it was a boating accident in Jaws gave Marcus that day to day prognosis.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: desco80 on January 10, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Be interesting to see if he's just rehabbing or having surgery.     Presumably if he was headed for surgery that would've been mentioned. 

Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: goredmen on January 10, 2018, 04:15:17 PM
So yesterday Mullin said he expected Lovett to get back on the court for practice today and today he is out for the season. What a ridiculous situation from start to finish and it probably isn't even over yet
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: RedStormNC on January 10, 2018, 04:15:46 PM
Thread should be renamed to

Done playing for SJU permanently
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: fordham96 on January 10, 2018, 04:18:05 PM
And the hits keep coming. This one seemed destined for this ending.

Yeah I can't be surprised.  I mean he has not even practiced for what more than 6 weeks at least.

At some point you can read the tea leaves and see he isn't coming back.

Maybe Trimble can step up.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: redstorm212 on January 10, 2018, 04:18:46 PM
This is weird.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
This is weird.

WE ARE ST JOHN'S
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: QuanMan on January 10, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
This comes less than 24 hours after Mullin says he should practice today and suddenly he is shutting it down? Seems like a real fight between staff and Lovett camp. We now clearly see who has been spearheading this. I guess the 'daytoday' label was to keep the pressure on his camp. This is disgraceful and selfish. With all the drama last Spring as to whether or not he comes back, he should've left after last season. The 2017 recruiting class was pathetic and the lack of preparedness, transfer tidal wave in the offseason is showing its ugly head tonight.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: desco80 on January 10, 2018, 04:19:37 PM
I was giving Marcus the benefit of the doubt until now.  There's really no way to explain Mullin thinking he might practice today and then announcing he's done for the year. 

There's always some unnecessary drama with this team.   That's what I hated most about the Lavin years.   I thought we were past that, but I guess not.   
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 04:21:37 PM
So much for my hope post. Missing a year due to a sprained knee? Jesus Christ. This kid will never be taken seriously professionally.

The staff will rightly be taken to task for the short roster, but this a mistake they'll never make again and have already added Dixon and Williams for next year.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
They say bad things come in threes. Lose to Ewing at Garden to fall to 0-5. Lose your 2nd best player for the year. Pretty sure Mullin has a dick punch coming any minute now. Probably should wear a cup.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: mjdinkins on January 10, 2018, 04:23:32 PM
This is weird.

Agree.  This is an odd situation.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 04:24:46 PM
Cut ties and go get Markquis Nowell for next year. You can't go into battle with kids you can't trust. Give me a less talented city kid that will dress and compete.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: fordham96 on January 10, 2018, 04:25:49 PM
So yesterday Mullin said he expected Lovett to get back on the court for practice today and today he is out for the season. What a ridiculous situation from start to finish and it probably isn't even over yet

It was misrepresented what he said, he meant food court.  Marcus is able to order food now...
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
Cut ties and go get Markquis Nowell for next year. You can't go into battle with kids you can't trust. Give me a less talented city kid that will dress and compete.

Cut ties?
Doubt you see Marcus wearing ugly shirts on bench anymore
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 04:27:23 PM
Tweet noting he's done came  from his father's hoops  training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:28:56 PM
Tweet noting he's done came  from his father's hoops  training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.

Heard he just wants to go home to Philly.... Never mind wrong guy.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: ras on January 10, 2018, 04:29:01 PM
If Lovett left last year. Who may have opted not to leave the program and what recruits could we have possisbly gotten ? This hurts. But, is not unexpected.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: mjdinkins on January 10, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
I said, we'd win 4 or 5 conference games even after last night's debacle.  I figured LoVett would be back shortly, and we'd find a way to that many conference games. 

Well....  I think we'll end up 2-16.  If last night and Saturday afternoon is the effort we're gonna get, then prepare to see the team quit (frankly, it looked like they had practically quit their past two games).  With Ponds limping every other game, then expect him to miss some time again during this conference season. 
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: mjdinkins on January 10, 2018, 04:30:10 PM
Tweet noting he's done came  from his father's hoops  training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.

+1 
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: thetruth8734 on January 10, 2018, 04:30:18 PM
This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 04:30:54 PM
Tweet noting he's done came  from his father's hoops  training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.

Heard he just wants to go home to Philly.... Never mind wrong guy.

😉😉
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 04:34:43 PM
Tweet noting he's done came  from his father's hoops  training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.

They held our season hostage.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 04:37:02 PM
Per Braziller
Marcus LoVett's dad tweets his son is done playing for this season. Has been listed day-to-day since Nov. 26 with a sprained MCL. A lot more to come on this. #sjubb
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:38:31 PM
This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.

Since Louie left we have had losing, bad Boston accents, swimmer assaults, paying terrible players, trains on skanks, losing, Norm, losing, losing, losing, best player suspension, Rysheed's Philly trips, losing, transfers and now the worst diagnosis since that doctor in Jaws got pressured into calling Chrissie Watkins being eaten a boating accident.

Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:43:52 PM
This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.

Three years ago I would have bet the only way ST John's fans would turn on Chris Mullin would be if he snuck up from behind Louie and hit him in the head with a steal chair then took off his shirt to reveal a UCONN jersey.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 04:47:38 PM
Hope. Trust the process
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 04:50:41 PM
People have recovered from death faster than Marcus has from his "knee injury"
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: thetruth8734 on January 10, 2018, 04:55:25 PM
This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.

Three years ago I would have bet the only way ST John's fans would turn on Chris Mullin would be if he snuck up from behind Louie and hit him in the head with a steal chair then took off his shirt to reveal a UCONN jersey.

I'm younger and didn't see him play at St. John's, but did see him play in the NBA. I have respect for him as an all time great player, but it's pretty plain to see we made a huge mistake hiring him as head coach. Either Hurley brother surely would have been a better choice, as I said at the time and still think so.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 04:56:31 PM
People have recovered from death faster than Marcus has from his "knee injury"

Not sure if I will ever recover from that shirt he had on yesterday
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: redstorm212 on January 10, 2018, 05:04:33 PM
I think above everything, we are seeing the issues with hiring a coach with zero experience, who has been completely removed from college basketball for 25+ years.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Foryoureyesonly88 on January 10, 2018, 05:06:34 PM
This is so selfish that it’s ridiculous. He clearly has been healthy for awhile and tried to protect himself, while keeping the staff in the dark.

This is so wrong.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 05:10:20 PM
I think above everything, we are seeing the issues with hiring a coach with zero experience, who has been completely removed from college basketball for 25+ years.

How would you deal with Lovett though? He's a legit top 50 talent and we had to take chances. You have to think Mullin and the staff learned a valuable lesson from this. They won't go down relying on a kid like Lovett again.

They already have Ponds, Trimble, Simon, Dixon, and Williams for next year. I'd imagine they use Lovett's ship either on a pure high school PG like Nowell or an immediately eligible transfer.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Redman#13 on January 10, 2018, 05:12:03 PM
People have recovered from death faster than Marcus has from his "knee injury"

Not sure if I will ever recover from that shirt he had on yesterday



LOL

LOL
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 05:13:59 PM
Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: boo3 on January 10, 2018, 05:15:42 PM
At least we have a shot at the number 1 pick!  Oh wait..
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 05:16:13 PM
Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.

Someone would need to kill a bunch of people to take over number one from Geno for me
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 05:17:48 PM
Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.

Someone would need to kill a bunch of people to take over number one from Geno for me


Lol. Wasju, you need to start on thread on this.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 05:37:59 PM
Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.

The announcement by Marcus LoVett's dad caught the staff off guard. There was no discussion about him being shut down internally. #sjubb

Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on January 10, 2018, 05:42:01 PM
Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.

Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.

Zach's tweets are really killing me, hurts to see Lovett do this not only to the fans but more importantly his team mates
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: goredmen on January 10, 2018, 05:43:41 PM
Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.

Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.

Staff not-so-subtly taking shots at Marcus and his dad through Zach now. Could get ugly
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 05:44:39 PM
Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy,  then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 05:45:56 PM
Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy,  then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point

Good guess I sense.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 05:47:32 PM
Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy,  then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point

Good guess I sense.

There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: survivedc on January 10, 2018, 05:58:32 PM
Don't think I've ever been more disappointed in a player. Can't fault the guy for wanting to make money playing ball but he and his father handled it poorly. Really hurt the team this year, hope there aren't any more repercussions.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: newyorker2586 on January 10, 2018, 06:03:28 PM
Was always a hot dog. Can’t stand him or that Ball is Life BS. Good riddance to the clown.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Ray Morgan on January 10, 2018, 06:04:22 PM
Most guys with a competitive spirit want to be out there if they can stand up. Doesn't seem like Lovett is one of them.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: newyorker2586 on January 10, 2018, 06:09:40 PM
We need a guy with Anthony Glover’s heart
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 06:10:04 PM
https://nypost.com/2018/01/10/marcus-lovett-done-for-season-in-another-st-johns-crusher/
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2018, 06:15:45 PM
Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.

The announcement by Marcus LoVett's dad caught the staff off guard. There was no discussion about him being shut down internally. #sjubb

Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.

Mullin has no control of things. This season is an unmitigated disaster.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2018, 06:16:27 PM
That scholarship needs to be freed up asap for next year. He needs to go. Being hurt is one thing but the lack of communication and relaying it through his dad's camp is babylike.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2018, 06:18:45 PM
Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy,  then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point

Good guess I sense.

There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services

Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 06:19:44 PM
Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy,  then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point

Good guess I sense.

There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services

Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?

Ok. Please tell me why Lovett came to st. Johns
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: newyorker2586 on January 10, 2018, 06:20:28 PM
The Mullin we need who use to ride his bike to Manhattan Beach play all morning then hop on the D train and go toe toe with Jackie Ryan is gone. That’s the guy we need.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 06:21:51 PM
The Mullin we need who use to ride his bike to Manhattan Beach play all morning then hop on the D train and go toe toe with Jackie Ryan is gone. That’s the guy we need.

Jack Ryan was nasty
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2018, 06:24:45 PM
Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy,  then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point

Good guess I sense.

There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services

Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?

Ok. Please tell me why Lovett came to st. Johns

That's not what I had an issue with , what you said was factual-- it's the rubbing everyone's face in urine routine, it's tired
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: newyorker2586 on January 10, 2018, 06:24:52 PM
I guess I should call Lovett’s Pop see if wants to play for my cousin with the Tijuana Zonkeys 😂🤣
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 06:26:14 PM
Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy,  then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point

Good guess I sense.

There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services

Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?

Ok. Please tell me why Lovett came to st. Johns

That's not what I had an issue with , what you said was factual-- it's the rubbing everyone's face in urine routine, it's tired

Ok. I'm still asking. Why do you think Lovett came to St. Johns
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Tiger on January 10, 2018, 06:32:10 PM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 10, 2018, 06:35:43 PM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

He has to go too. Failure to produce a team that actually wants to be here
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Poison on January 10, 2018, 06:39:03 PM
I think above everything, we are seeing the issues with hiring a coach with zero experience, who has been completely removed from college basketball for 25+ years.

That’s not true. He sat in the stands and watched games.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: austour on January 10, 2018, 06:58:00 PM
The Lovett's appear to take their lead from the Balls, next step for Marcus is Lithuania.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: newyorker2586 on January 10, 2018, 06:58:55 PM
A Phil Missere type we need for this team
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: thetruth8734 on January 10, 2018, 07:02:16 PM
Anyway we can get Lavin back? At least when his players went AWOL we still made the tournament....
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: MCNPA on January 10, 2018, 07:13:18 PM
Lovett' dad says it's not personal? Oh yes it is...
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: desco80 on January 10, 2018, 07:25:02 PM
None of this makes sense though from Lovetts angle either.   Why sit out another season? He already redshirted.   He'll have one season of basketball out of the last 3 years.   Where's that going to get you a contract? 

And what athlete doesn't want to suit up and play once they're ready.    You got hurt, team is losing, so you just say f it I'm out ?   
I expect college athletes to be selfish, but this doesn't even seem to benefit him. 
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on January 10, 2018, 07:26:30 PM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
I'm so tired of this "only recruit New York City kids" attitude a lot of the older fans have. Mullin stinks as a coach.  You really think in a season where he should be canned if we don't win 19+ games that it would be a good idea to give 15 mins to a freshman ranked in the 250s? When you have a guy who can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag you need to counter that by bringing in the most talented players possible. I don't care if he comes from Zimbabwe, fill Lovetts scholarship with the most talented point guard you can possibly get.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Lycidas on January 10, 2018, 07:33:13 PM
This team's fans suck.

If a kid on scholarship is hurt, you can't pull his scholarship because he gets hurt.

And I'm certain that one, if not both, of the Hurleys would have prevented LoVett from hurting his knee in the first place.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on January 10, 2018, 07:37:33 PM
This team's fans suck.

If a kid on scholarship is hurt, you can't pull his scholarship because he gets hurt.

And I'm certain that one, if not both, of the Hurleys would have prevented LoVett from hurting his knee in the first place.
Who's talking about pulling his scholarship? There's been rumors since last off-season of lovett leaving. Braziller tweeted its always been seen as a long shot he'd be back next year. Add in this injury fiasco and how old the kid is and I really doubt he puts on the red and white again.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
 SJU press release

QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
 
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
 
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 07:49:06 PM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
I'm so tired of this "only recruit New York City kids" attitude a lot of the older fans have. Mullin stinks as a coach.  You really think in a season where he should be canned if we don't win 19+ games that it would be a good idea to give 15 mins to a freshman ranked in the 250s? When you have a guy who can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag you need to counter that by bringing in the most talented players possible. I don't care if he comes from Zimbabwe, fill Lovetts scholarship with the most talented point guard you can possibly get.

First of all, I've never been a recruit NYC guy. Get the best talent wherever it comes from. Second, this kid is a killer. He's not the type of talent Lovett is, but he'll suit up and compete every game and won't let his daddy make his decisions for him. Do you want to throw away a season with Ponds and Simon as juniors because we don't have have a kid we can hand the ball off to for taking the pressure off Ponds and setting up our shooters? I'm tired of this positionless crap. It works when guys are great, but we have to be good first. This team needs structure. Why look further than NYC when we produce 5 pgs a year that can help us?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 10, 2018, 07:49:19 PM
None of this makes sense though from Lovetts angle either.   Why sit out another season? He already redshirted.   He'll have one season of basketball out of the last 3 years.   Where's that going to get you a contract? 

And what athlete doesn't want to suit up and play once they're ready.    You got hurt, team is losing, so you just say f it I'm out ?   
I expect college athletes to be selfish, but this doesn't even seem to benefit him. 

Not sure how all of that works but would not be surprised if he leaves school and already has something set up somewhere.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 10, 2018, 07:57:23 PM
None of this makes sense though from Lovetts angle either.   Why sit out another season? He already redshirted.   He'll have one season of basketball out of the last 3 years.   Where's that going to get you a contract? 

And what athlete doesn't want to suit up and play once they're ready.    You got hurt, team is losing, so you just say f it I'm out ?   
I expect college athletes to be selfish, but this doesn't even seem to benefit him. 

Not sure how all of that works but would not be surprised if he leaves school and already has something set up somewhere.

How does the Ball kids playing in Lithuania and Lavar running his mouth help them? The middle kid had no NBA future and now he can't play college ball. The other kid will be poison to GMs by the year's end.  These dads are sabotaging their kids futures to steal the limelight. Why did this old man have to make the announcement? He couldn't let SJU do it or even his son? How could that possibly end well?

And if he really cared about his kid's future why not let him showcase his skills against Jalen Brunson and Trevon Duval in front of scouts the next few weeks?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: goredmen on January 10, 2018, 08:05:15 PM
SJU press release

QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
 
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
 
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.

So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 10, 2018, 08:09:32 PM
SJU press release

QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
 
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
 
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.

So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision

Had same reaction. Puzzling saga.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: desco80 on January 10, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
Didn't Zach say he was cleared weeks ago?   Which is it?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: QuanMan on January 10, 2018, 08:19:27 PM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.

I see you finally started listening to me Marillac. Alan Griffin out of Stepinac is a thought. Hyatt is another viable option should he decide to become 2018, hopefully Abs didn't burn his bridge by stopping his recruitment. Or perhaps.....Jordan Brown? One can wish. Dare I mention Jahvon Quinerly? Lol just kidding. We seriously have a hole at the 3 once Bash graduates, need to fill it with a capable immediate scorer.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on January 10, 2018, 08:45:57 PM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
I'm so tired of this "only recruit New York City kids" attitude a lot of the older fans have. Mullin stinks as a coach.  You really think in a season where he should be canned if we don't win 19+ games that it would be a good idea to give 15 mins to a freshman ranked in the 250s? When you have a guy who can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag you need to counter that by bringing in the most talented players possible. I don't care if he comes from Zimbabwe, fill Lovetts scholarship with the most talented point guard you can possibly get.

First of all, I've never been a recruit NYC guy. Get the best talent wherever it comes from. Second, this kid is a killer. He's not the type of talent Lovett is, but he'll suit up and compete every game and won't let his daddy make his decisions for him. Do you want to throw away a season with Ponds and Simon as juniors because we don't have have a kid we can hand the ball off to for taking the pressure off Ponds and setting up our shooters? I'm tired of this positionless crap. It works when guys are great, but we have to be good first. This team needs structure. Why look further than NYC when we produce 5 pgs a year that can help us?
Sorry, I didn't mean to single you out with the only NYC comment. Just seemed to be the type of comment that would come up a lot during the previous regime and I always hated hearing it.  100% agree with your positionless comment.  I want a real true pg who will create for others.  I'd personally like taller pgs ala Rysheed or Shawn Livingston instead of what nowell appears to be. Disagree with your killer label based solely on his ranking by recruiting services. I don't think a kid that poorly thought of can be expected to seriously contribute as a frosh.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: JohnnyJungle on January 10, 2018, 10:46:41 PM
So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?

This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: goredmen on January 10, 2018, 10:50:32 PM
So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?

This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.

I was thinking the same thing at one point but that no longer makes sense with how this has played out over the past couple of days.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Celtics11 on January 10, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.

Since Louie left we have had losing, bad Boston accents, swimmer assaults, paying terrible players, trains on skanks, losing, Norm, losing, losing, losing, best player suspension, Rysheed's Philly trips, losing, transfers and now the worst diagnosis since that doctor in Jaws got pressured into calling Chrissie Watkins being eaten a boating accident.


And those are the highlights.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: SJUFAN on January 10, 2018, 11:46:27 PM
Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Classof2013 on January 11, 2018, 12:03:37 AM
Yeah, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But clearly, he's soft and selfish. Good luck playing in the B league in Europe.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Classof2013 on January 11, 2018, 12:04:57 AM
SJU press release

QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
 
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
 
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.

So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision

Had same reaction. Puzzling saga.

Probably more strategic for the program to lie so they seem loyal to the player and underplay the drama. I'm sure Mullin and co. is furious.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: carmineabbatiello on January 11, 2018, 12:13:58 AM
I'm speechless.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Celtics11 on January 11, 2018, 01:23:02 AM
I'm speechless.
Your best post ever.  ;) :)
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Celtics11 on January 11, 2018, 01:25:22 AM
I'm speechless.
You can't speak on these boards you can only write.  ::)
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: gonzalo on January 11, 2018, 07:21:17 AM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.

It looks like the staff is not recruiting him.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 11, 2018, 07:56:06 AM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.

It looks like the staff is not recruiting him.
Correct
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 11, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
SJU press release

QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
 
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
 
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.

So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision

Had same reaction. Puzzling saga.

Probably more strategic for the program to lie so they seem loyal to the player and underplay the drama. I'm sure Mullin and co. is furious.

Exactly
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: ras on January 11, 2018, 10:15:54 AM
So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?

This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.
Than why did Mullin say he was going to practice?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 11, 2018, 10:28:40 AM
I have no scoop but I would have to think the staff will tell the kid to seek another program for next year. If he wouldn't even try to test the knee, not sure why the program would even want him around for next year.

With only 7 games played this year, he can probably get medical redshirt and fight to get cleared to play immediately next year.

I thought it was interesting that if the kid can't play due to injury that the school didn't immediately say it would be seeking a medical redshirt for the year.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 11, 2018, 10:34:31 AM
I have no scoop but I would have to think the staff will tell the kid to seek another program for next year. If he wouldn't even try to test the knee, not sure why the program would even want him around for next year.

With only 7 games played this year, he can probably get medical redshirt and fight get cleared to play immediately next year.

I thought it was interesting that if the kid can't play due to injury that the school didn't immediately say it would be seeking a medical redshirt for the year.

Would bet that he is leaving school and turns up in Europe shortly.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Poison on January 11, 2018, 11:08:36 AM
Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.

Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?

It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?

The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 11, 2018, 11:24:57 AM
Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.

Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?

It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?

The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.

I don't believe him because he is not even trying to test it and let the medical staff evaluate after trying to play.

As for the comparing this to the Mets, its ridiculous. Matz, (your example) is a professional and gets paid by the Mets to do a job. SJU has no means to evaluate the player if he is refusing to try and play.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: desco80 on January 11, 2018, 11:27:30 AM
Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.

Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?

It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?

The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.

Zach B said the doctors cleared him a month ago. 
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: cjfish on January 11, 2018, 11:32:21 AM
This team's fans suck.

If a kid on scholarship is hurt, you can't pull his scholarship because he gets hurt.

And I'm certain that one, if not both, of the Hurleys would have prevented LoVett from hurting his knee in the first place.






Do the Hurleys have a special relationship with God that they could have prevented a knee injury. :)  No pro team is going to offer a fragile midget who cant toughen up and play with what is apparently a minor injury which seems substantially cured.  What happened to a player playing hurt?  If he had any team spirit he would play and rest or operate on  his fragile body offseason.  He may be back next year because the offers will not be coming.   F...ing Philly Pussy with no chutzpah, the antithesis of a mensch.     
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: fordham96 on January 11, 2018, 11:32:44 AM
So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?

This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.

Why would they blatanly lie like this?  I mean this is not semantics, this would be a complete falsehood if your theory is true.

Schools announce kids are ineligible for academics all the time.  It happens.  Why would SJU feel the need to invent an injury as opposed to telling the truth?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: guinness77 on January 11, 2018, 11:37:25 AM
Well then, I guess there's only one thing left to do.

Win the whole effin thing.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: cjfish on January 11, 2018, 11:49:32 AM
Guess I'll have to be a Villanova fan for the rest of this year in order to battle my hoopwatching depression :tickedoff:
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: QuanMan on January 11, 2018, 12:29:51 PM
Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.

Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?

It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?

The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.

It is absolutely a fundamental mistake that the staff elected to recruit for next year and risked this year's roster having no fat whatsoever. This team couldn't withstand one injury, how is that acceptable in Year3. We as diehards can comb through the depth chart, and understand the staff's idea of scholarship balance. But you're telling me that they couldn't recruit a grad transfer, Duane Wilson type for this year for insurance purposes instead of Sid Wilson? Give me a break. The public eye, common college basketball fan doesn't understand these details. They see a failing program in Year3 and that perception is what matters most.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: prjohnnies on January 11, 2018, 01:30:27 PM
I think it is clear what happened.  The kid's knee doesn't feel right to him, and he, his Dad and whoever else is involved decided it was best to not risk further injury and get healthy for when he tries to get a pro contract later this year.  Regardless of where you think he'll play overseas or what type of money he might get that is what happened.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 11, 2018, 01:52:53 PM
I think it is clear what happened.  The kid's knee doesn't feel right to him, and he, his Dad and whoever else is involved decided it was best to not risk further injury and get healthy for when he tries to get a pro contract later this year.  Regardless of where you think he'll play overseas or what type of money he might get that is what happened.

Yup
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: desco80 on January 11, 2018, 10:28:26 PM
Was he ever cleared by doctors though.  That's the key to me.    If Lovett (and his dad) believe there's still something wrong, that's different than if hes recoveree but sitting out to protect himself for pro tryouts in June. 
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: johnnies11 on January 11, 2018, 11:53:21 PM
I'm new to these boards and just want to give my take on this situation:

I was always a big fan of LoVett and his game, but he has lost just about all respect from me. Although I respect his decision on what he feels is best for him and his family, to drag this process out as long as he did, and then for his dad to announce the decision without informing the team first was certainly the wrong way of going about it. To not even test the knee out in a practice is not a good look. The way the school fought for him when he was ineligible, he certainly didn't return the favor. Now if he is truly does have pain, then its a different situation. But by all accounts, that doesn't appear to be the case, especially if doctors cleared him multiple times. And if in his mind any minor injury he sustained was going to scare him off from playing, then he should have just went overseas last year and not bothered returning.

Anyway, that's just my take. Looking forward to talking St. John's basketball with you guys! Just have to keep believing this will turn around sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 12, 2018, 12:43:29 AM
I think it is clear what happened.  The kid's knee doesn't feel right to him, and he, his Dad and whoever else is involved decided it was best to not risk further injury and get healthy for when he tries to get a pro contract later this year.  Regardless of where you think he'll play overseas or what type of money he might get that is what happened.

It's a sprained knee man. Who on these boards hasn't played through that? Put on a brace some tape and a compression sleeve and you are fine. The doctors cleared him a month ago.

The issue is clear. His daddy calls the shots and does him no favors. He's been to 85 high schools and couldn't even get himself cleared to play as a 19 year old freshman. Do you know how easy it is for a normal kid with two parents to achieve the minimum standards of the NCAA?

His dad acts like he's Christian McCaffrey being held out of a bowl game after his team was eliminated from championship consideration to preserve draftability. This kid has no shot at playing in the NBA high level international ball. He has no resume to market to fans. I hope his bags are packed, he's not around the team anymore, and he's been notified that his scholarship will be filled by a team-first player. He can't make the 3 hour charter bus ride to Mohegan Sun 5 weeks after spraining his knee? Complete bs.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 12, 2018, 08:21:56 AM
If he didn't have structural damage and has had another month to heal even move after doctors said it was ok to test it out, something is fishy.

You would think the family might go get a second opinion or something.

There is something to this story that we are all missing, just don't know what it is.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: desco80 on January 12, 2018, 09:05:16 AM
Agree with PMG's comment above.   
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: jr49 on January 12, 2018, 01:40:56 PM
Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: sju61982 on January 12, 2018, 02:29:39 PM
Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
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St John’s will honor Marcus LoVett’s scholarship. He will remain with program and rehab his knee as long as he wants to this year. Beyond that, future is uncertain. #sjubb
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: mjdinkins on January 12, 2018, 02:44:56 PM
Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
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St John’s will honor Marcus LoVett’s scholarship. He will remain with program and rehab his knee as long as he wants to this year. Beyond that, future is uncertain. #sjubb

It's not like they can do anything with the scholarship right now anyway.  So, we may as well honor it.  But, once the season is over, I think both parties will part.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: jr49 on January 12, 2018, 02:49:24 PM
Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
Thanks, Heard here that he only wants to go back to Philly. If so that kinda leaves the classroom out.
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St John’s will honor Marcus LoVett’s scholarship. He will remain with program and rehab his knee as long as he wants to this year. Beyond that, future is uncertain. #sjubb

Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Moose on January 14, 2018, 11:40:02 AM
Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.

Nuri Lindsey says hi
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Moose on January 14, 2018, 11:44:03 AM
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship?  I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now.  Might find a 3*.  Does SJU grab a 5th year guy?  any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year. 

Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...

Easy:  Markquis Nowell.   https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc

Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.

It looks like the staff is not recruiting him.
Correct

He must be a regular kid therefore staff won't recruit him
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: QuanMan on January 14, 2018, 04:56:42 PM
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Chris Mullin said Marcus LoVett in on campus, still rehabbing. Team came to the city a few days early so he wasn’t in attendance today. #sjubb

This is the most puzzling quote yet.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Celtics11 on January 14, 2018, 06:29:44 PM
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Chris Mullin said Marcus LoVett in on campus, still rehabbing. Team came to the city a few days early so he wasn’t in attendance today. #sjubb

This is the most puzzling quote yet.
Yeah guess it's very hard for a 22 year old man to get from Queens to Manhattan on his own. Probably didn't want to face the music from people over shutting it down early.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 28, 2018, 08:23:57 AM
0-18 in play

We Are Nostradamus
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 29, 2018, 09:49:19 AM
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Chris Mullin said Marcus LoVett in on campus, still rehabbing. Team came to the city a few days early so he wasn’t in attendance today. #sjubb

This is the most puzzling quote yet.

I don't find this quote confusing...

I think a lot of people are/were speculating that the kid was protecting himself in hopes of leaving for a professional contract. If he was that intent on leaving, why keep going to class.? Maybe he is just hedging himself to protect any college eligibility.

Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: cjfish on January 29, 2018, 11:20:46 AM
No League, not Turkey, New Zealand or China, is going to give a contract to a 6 ft guard with a history of season-ending injuries who has played only 1 of the last 3 years.  He  is going to class because he will be back next year and because he probably wants an education.   
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 29, 2018, 01:38:37 PM
No League, not Turkey, New Zealand or China, is going to give a contract to a 6 ft guard with a history of season-ending injuries who has played only 1 of the last 3 years.  He  is going to class because he will be back next year and because he probably wants an education.   

Do you really think this kid is remotely concerned with his education outside of his eligibility providing an outlet for him to play basketball.?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: cjfish on January 29, 2018, 02:44:17 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 29, 2018, 03:34:30 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 

Lovett coming back would be tremendous.  Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that.  Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 29, 2018, 03:41:04 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 

Lovett coming back would be tremendous.  Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that.  Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.

Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 29, 2018, 03:56:53 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 

Lovett coming back would be tremendous.  Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that.  Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.

Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.

Whatdo you disagree with?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 29, 2018, 04:13:25 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 

Lovett coming back would be tremendous.  Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that.  Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.

Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.

Whatdo you disagree with?

That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Lycidas on January 29, 2018, 04:22:42 PM
Agree that we never see him again.

No one here should be surprised that he couldn't make it through this season. Hurling yourself to the floor after every shot is not conducive to making it through a college season, let alone what it bodes for a longer pro season.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 29, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 

Lovett coming back would be tremendous.  Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that.  Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.

Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.

Whatdo you disagree with?

That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.

Ok so  say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: we are sju on January 29, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 

Lovett coming back would be tremendous.  Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that.  Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.

Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.

Whatdo you disagree with?

That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.

Ok so  say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.

If being a believer means he gets to shoot 15 times a game, he can go do that at Iona
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 29, 2018, 04:43:09 PM
He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help.  A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely.  Apparently he is going to classes. 

Lovett coming back would be tremendous.  Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that.  Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.

Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.

Whatdo you disagree with?

That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.

Ok so  say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.

If being a believer means he gets to shoot 15 times a game, he can go do that at Iona

He would be welcome
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 29, 2018, 05:15:41 PM
Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: goredmen on January 29, 2018, 05:39:07 PM
Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...

Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 29, 2018, 05:45:19 PM
Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...

Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?

Imagine if Mullin went to Duke?  What would St Johns be
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: goredmen on January 29, 2018, 05:48:34 PM
Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...

Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?

Imagine if Mullin went to Duke?  What would St Johns be

I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense. 
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 29, 2018, 05:55:39 PM
Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...

Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?

Imagine if Mullin went to Duke?  What would St Johns be

I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense. 

Well he would be welcome at Iona since the St Johns fans are completely out of their mind
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: fordham96 on January 29, 2018, 09:51:28 PM
Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...

Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?

Imagine if Mullin went to Duke?  What would St Johns be

I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense. 

His entire posting strategy is a complete nonsensical mishmash of incoherent drivel done to waste everyone's time.  He starts unfounded rumors, trashes a SJU assistant claiming he recruited "a last place team," then says a backcourt of Ponds, Lovett, Simon, Williams and DIxon is something he could see as really good next year.  Except that is the same backcourt that was recruited by the guy who recruited a last place team so not sure how they can be any good since anyone can recruit a last place team.  He then goes from talking about Tariq Owens to talking about Chris Mullin and SJU Alumni's.  Seemingly no coherent connection.

It's almost as if he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about and pretends his way thru the day...
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: wpc77 on January 29, 2018, 10:00:54 PM
Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...

Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?

Imagine if Mullin went to Duke?  What would St Johns be

I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense. 

His entire posting strategy is a complete nonsensical mishmash of incoherent drivel done to waste everyone's time.  He starts unfounded rumors, trashes a SJU assistant claiming he recruited "a last place team," then says a backcourt of Ponds, Lovett, Simon, Williams and DIxon is something he could see as really good next year.  Except that is the same backcourt that was recruited by the guy who recruited a last place team so not sure how they can be any good since anyone can recruit a last place team.  He then goes from talking about Tariq Owens to talking about Chris Mullin and SJU Alumni's.  Seemingly no coherent connection.

It's almost as if he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about and pretends his way thru the day...

I mean, we have some bot posting about home sex masturbation videos in the adjacent thread.  I think it's safe to say that the entire board is gibberish at this point (present company excluded)
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 30, 2018, 08:19:31 AM

Ok so  say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.

Why make Owens a believer, the kid already sat out a transfer year, he is not going anywhere..
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: RedStormNC on January 30, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
Owens graduates in spring.  He can go grad transfer route and not sit out a year.

I believe he'll stick around
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marillac on January 30, 2018, 08:49:50 AM

Ok so  say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.

Why make Owens a believer, the kid already sat out a transfer year, he is not going anywhere..

Grad transfers don't have to sit out.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 30, 2018, 09:00:53 AM

Ok so  say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.

Why make Owens a believer, the kid already sat out a transfer year, he is not going anywhere..

Grad transfers don't have to sit out.

I keep thinking of him as Junior and forget this is his 4th year in college...
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: SJUFAN on January 31, 2018, 02:38:22 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on January 31, 2018, 02:44:43 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: patrick on January 31, 2018, 03:52:40 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

His choice? our choice? or combo?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on January 31, 2018, 03:56:29 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

Where is he going..?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: johnniesfilmmaker on January 31, 2018, 04:01:20 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

Where is he going..?

Most likely overseas.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: hnk on January 31, 2018, 04:12:17 PM
Was he at the game last night?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Foad on January 31, 2018, 05:16:58 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

His choice? our choice? or combo?

Would you take him back?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Foad on January 31, 2018, 05:17:23 PM
Was he at the game last night?

Yah, he was wearing his Mullin jersey.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: braintrust on January 31, 2018, 06:20:44 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

His choice? our choice? or combo?

Would you take him back?
No. The book is closed on Lovett for St Johns. We need to move on. We have Dixon, Williams and probably a third guard coming in.
Nothing will surprise me this off season. Who stays, who goes, or any additions, no one and nothing going to surprise me after this season and the last fifteen seasons for that matter.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 31, 2018, 06:28:11 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

His choice? our choice? or combo?

Would you take him back?

Yup. Who is the PG next season?
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Celtics11 on January 31, 2018, 06:48:22 PM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

His choice? our choice? or combo?

Would you take him back?
No. The book is closed on Lovett for St Johns. We need to move on. We have Dixon, Williams and probably a third guard coming in.
Nothing will surprise me this off season. Who stays, who goes, or any additions, no one and nothing going to surprise me after this season and the last fifteen seasons for that matter.
+1 goes for coaching staff as well.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: patrick on February 01, 2018, 10:38:20 AM
Any chance Lovett returns next year?

Zero

His choice? our choice? or combo?

Would you take him back?

showing no integrity at all, I'd say yes
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: pmg911 on February 02, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
Heard from a couple of people today that Lovett is not attending classes..

If this is true, the school should cut ties with the kid and miraculously feed the story to Zach B
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: ras on February 02, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
Heard from a couple of people today that Lovett is not attending classes..

If this is true, the school should cut ties with the kid and miraculously feed the story to Zach B
That doesn’t surprise me. If that’s the case , why should we pay for any medical care?  I agree w you ,he should be off the team if not attending classes.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: braintrust on February 02, 2018, 11:02:48 PM
Heard he is headed to Lithuania to run with the Balls.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: RedStormNC on February 03, 2018, 01:45:27 PM

Adam Zagoria

@AdamZagoria

·

35m

Marcus LoVett tells us he’s not sure if he will be back at @StJohnsBBall next season. Said he’s not sure what will happen.

Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: mjdinkins on February 03, 2018, 01:49:12 PM

Adam Zagoria

@AdamZagoria

·

35m

Marcus LoVett tells us he’s not sure if he will be back at @StJohnsBBall next season. Said he’s not sure what will happen.

Honestly, that is what I'd expect him to say.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on February 03, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if he is here next year
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on February 03, 2018, 03:39:58 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if he is here next year

I would
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2018, 03:46:22 PM

Adam Zagoria

@AdamZagoria

·

35m

Marcus LoVett tells us he’s not sure if he will be back at @StJohnsBBall next season. Said he’s not sure what will happen.

Honestly, that is what I'd expect him to say.

Same -- he clearly knows he won't be but again showing no class.  If PMG's sources are accurate, and I don't doubt they are, he knows he's not coming back.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: erickthered on February 03, 2018, 03:53:08 PM
Not thrilled with the way it went down, but he could of packed up his stuff and left. Instead he's still in class and supporting his teammates. If nothing else he's supporting the program, and proud to be a Johnnie.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: prjohnnies on February 03, 2018, 04:28:50 PM
Under different circumstances, I'd agree with you.  In this particular case, I don't.  He has yo-yo'ed the staff since last summer;  If he wants to be gone, leave now.  We don't need you on the sidelines when you are choosing not to play; I say choosing because this isn't a kid who has an injury that is preventing him from playing ball.  If his pops was going to go this route - and Marcus seems like a great kid who is listening to people he believes have his best interests in mind - he should have just left last year and allowed us to build the team accordingly.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: SJUFAN on February 03, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Under different circumstances, I'd agree with you.  In this particular case, I don't.  He has yo-yo'ed the staff since last summer;  If he wants to be gone, leave now.  We don't need you on the sidelines when you are choosing not to play; I say choosing because this isn't a kid who has an injury that is preventing him from playing ball.  If his pops was going to go this route - and Marcus seems like a great kid who is listening to people he believes have his best interests in mind - he should have just left last year and allowed us to build the team accordingly.

What is there for him to gain to not play if he is able to? Sorry that doesn't make sense. He may be healthy enough to try to play through whatever element he has, and I can see why the staff would want that. But he needs to look out for himself and make sure he is healthy. Ask OBJ what he gained. Clearly there is a health concern which is why he shut it down for the season.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: prjohnnies on February 03, 2018, 04:53:20 PM
Kids play through minor, nagging injuries all the time, without long term effect.  That is what Shamorie is doing.

No one believes this is an issue that could have long term implications.   
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: SJUhoopNUT on February 03, 2018, 05:06:16 PM
If I was the staff I would move on from him.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Marco Baldi on February 03, 2018, 05:09:28 PM
Maybe there is another issue, other than injury
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: thetruth8734 on February 03, 2018, 05:09:31 PM
Under different circumstances, I'd agree with you.  In this particular case, I don't.  He has yo-yo'ed the staff since last summer;  If he wants to be gone, leave now.  We don't need you on the sidelines when you are choosing not to play; I say choosing because this isn't a kid who has an injury that is preventing him from playing ball.  If his pops was going to go this route - and Marcus seems like a great kid who is listening to people he believes have his best interests in mind - he should have just left last year and allowed us to build the team accordingly.

What is there for him to gain to not play if he is able to? Sorry that doesn't make sense. He may be healthy enough to try to play through whatever element he has, and I can see why the staff would want that. But he needs to look out for himself and make sure he is healthy. Ask OBJ what he gained. Clearly there is a health concern which is why he shut it down for the season.

Kid is a coward, and a flake. He never stuck around at any high school than more than a year or two and he's doing the same now. Just be a man and admit what you're doing instead lying. I don't get how any fan of this team has any sympathy for this loser.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: paultzman on February 03, 2018, 05:10:59 PM
If I was the staff I would move on from him.

They will
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: SJUFAN on February 03, 2018, 05:11:54 PM
Kids play through minor, nagging injuries all the time, without long term effect.  That is what Shamorie is doing.

No one believes this is an issue that could have long term implications.   

I don't think its fair to the kid to have an opinion one way or the other absent of actually knowing what the issue is.  We are assuming its minor, again I can't believe that to be the case for him to sit out the season. It clearly warrants it in his mind. He wouldn't be sitting behind the bench dressed head to toe in STJ gear supporting his teammates if he didn't want to be part of the program. This is a business decision.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on February 03, 2018, 05:19:14 PM
I will always respect him for sticking through the ineligible freshmen season when everyone had him fingered as good as gone.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Classof2013 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:52 PM
I will always respect him for sticking through the ineligible freshmen season when everyone had him fingered as good as gone.

Maybe he deserved respect then. But now? Someone who's medically cleared to play but refuses to play doesn't deserve it. Especially given the circumstances. Staff would be nuts to accept him back for this year. He (or his dad, who knows) blew it. I feel bad for him, almost.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: Foad on February 03, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
I will always respect him for sticking through the ineligible freshmen season when everyone had him fingered

Pics or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: prjohnnies on February 03, 2018, 09:49:14 PM
Perhaps this, too, though I think he has a pretty good head on his shoulders.  This is him listening to other people in his lives - who no doubt believe they have his best interests in mind - but are doing him a disservice as there are plenty of things he could have improved on playing against really good Big East back courts every night.  As I've said, he seems like a great kid and I loved watching him play.  Just don't appreciate the yo-yo stuff over the past year.  If you want to get paid to play, by all means go do so.  Don't string us and the staff along.  If this season was one in which you weren't enough of a team guy to play through a minor injury that many others would, just move on last summer so we don't lose Ellison and/or can recruit accordingly.  No capable guard transfer or JUCO was coming here with Lovett, Ponds and Simon slotted to get pretty much all the backup minutes. 

Maybe there is another issue, other than injury
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: SJUFAN on February 04, 2018, 03:27:51 PM
Don't string us and the staff along. 

Can you elaborate how he has done this? Are you privy to any conversations LoVett and his team had with the staff?

If this season was one in which you weren't enough of a team guy to play through a minor injury that many others would

Can you please share with us exactly what this "minor" injury you speak of is?

I would be careful with the assumptions that are being made.
Title: Re: LoVett Done For Season
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on February 05, 2018, 02:50:55 AM
You're not allowed to storm the court at the Garden anymore, he is very lucky that security didn't escort him out of the arena.