6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: QuanMan on January 10, 2018, 04:04:37 PM
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@Marcus_LoVett is finished playing for the 2017-2018 season...#rehab Stay tuned...St. John Red Storm now & forever #SJUBB @latimessports @nypostsports #family #fans #love #respect
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Well at least we got clarity.
And to think we thought day to day meant he may be back after the mini-West coast trip....LOL!!
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Jesus
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0-18 in play
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And the hits keep coming. This one seemed destined for this ending.
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Jesus
No LoVett. At least they are already used to playing without him. More PT for the AliB YIPPEE!
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I think the same Doctor that claimed it was a boating accident in Jaws gave Marcus that day to day prognosis.
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Be interesting to see if he's just rehabbing or having surgery. Presumably if he was headed for surgery that would've been mentioned.
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So yesterday Mullin said he expected Lovett to get back on the court for practice today and today he is out for the season. What a ridiculous situation from start to finish and it probably isn't even over yet
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Thread should be renamed to
Done playing for SJU permanently
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And the hits keep coming. This one seemed destined for this ending.
Yeah I can't be surprised. I mean he has not even practiced for what more than 6 weeks at least.
At some point you can read the tea leaves and see he isn't coming back.
Maybe Trimble can step up.
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This is weird.
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This is weird.
WE ARE ST JOHN'S
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This comes less than 24 hours after Mullin says he should practice today and suddenly he is shutting it down? Seems like a real fight between staff and Lovett camp. We now clearly see who has been spearheading this. I guess the 'daytoday' label was to keep the pressure on his camp. This is disgraceful and selfish. With all the drama last Spring as to whether or not he comes back, he should've left after last season. The 2017 recruiting class was pathetic and the lack of preparedness, transfer tidal wave in the offseason is showing its ugly head tonight.
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I was giving Marcus the benefit of the doubt until now. There's really no way to explain Mullin thinking he might practice today and then announcing he's done for the year.
There's always some unnecessary drama with this team. That's what I hated most about the Lavin years. I thought we were past that, but I guess not.
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So much for my hope post. Missing a year due to a sprained knee? Jesus Christ. This kid will never be taken seriously professionally.
The staff will rightly be taken to task for the short roster, but this a mistake they'll never make again and have already added Dixon and Williams for next year.
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They say bad things come in threes. Lose to Ewing at Garden to fall to 0-5. Lose your 2nd best player for the year. Pretty sure Mullin has a dick punch coming any minute now. Probably should wear a cup.
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This is weird.
Agree. This is an odd situation.
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Cut ties and go get Markquis Nowell for next year. You can't go into battle with kids you can't trust. Give me a less talented city kid that will dress and compete.
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So yesterday Mullin said he expected Lovett to get back on the court for practice today and today he is out for the season. What a ridiculous situation from start to finish and it probably isn't even over yet
It was misrepresented what he said, he meant food court. Marcus is able to order food now...
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Cut ties and go get Markquis Nowell for next year. You can't go into battle with kids you can't trust. Give me a less talented city kid that will dress and compete.
Cut ties?
Doubt you see Marcus wearing ugly shirts on bench anymore
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Tweet noting he's done came from his father's hoops training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.
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Tweet noting he's done came from his father's hoops training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.
Heard he just wants to go home to Philly.... Never mind wrong guy.
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If Lovett left last year. Who may have opted not to leave the program and what recruits could we have possisbly gotten ? This hurts. But, is not unexpected.
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I said, we'd win 4 or 5 conference games even after last night's debacle. I figured LoVett would be back shortly, and we'd find a way to that many conference games.
Well.... I think we'll end up 2-16. If last night and Saturday afternoon is the effort we're gonna get, then prepare to see the team quit (frankly, it looked like they had practically quit their past two games). With Ponds limping every other game, then expect him to miss some time again during this conference season.
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Tweet noting he's done came from his father's hoops training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.
+1
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This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.
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Tweet noting he's done came from his father's hoops training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.
Heard he just wants to go home to Philly.... Never mind wrong guy.
😉😉
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Tweet noting he's done came from his father's hoops training site. Speaks volumes that school is either out of loop or God knows what.
They held our season hostage.
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Per Braziller
Marcus LoVett's dad tweets his son is done playing for this season. Has been listed day-to-day since Nov. 26 with a sprained MCL. A lot more to come on this. #sjubb
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This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.
Since Louie left we have had losing, bad Boston accents, swimmer assaults, paying terrible players, trains on skanks, losing, Norm, losing, losing, losing, best player suspension, Rysheed's Philly trips, losing, transfers and now the worst diagnosis since that doctor in Jaws got pressured into calling Chrissie Watkins being eaten a boating accident.
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This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.
Three years ago I would have bet the only way ST John's fans would turn on Chris Mullin would be if he snuck up from behind Louie and hit him in the head with a steal chair then took off his shirt to reveal a UCONN jersey.
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Hope. Trust the process
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People have recovered from death faster than Marcus has from his "knee injury"
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This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.
Three years ago I would have bet the only way ST John's fans would turn on Chris Mullin would be if he snuck up from behind Louie and hit him in the head with a steal chair then took off his shirt to reveal a UCONN jersey.
I'm younger and didn't see him play at St. John's, but did see him play in the NBA. I have respect for him as an all time great player, but it's pretty plain to see we made a huge mistake hiring him as head coach. Either Hurley brother surely would have been a better choice, as I said at the time and still think so.
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People have recovered from death faster than Marcus has from his "knee injury"
Not sure if I will ever recover from that shirt he had on yesterday
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I think above everything, we are seeing the issues with hiring a coach with zero experience, who has been completely removed from college basketball for 25+ years.
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This is so selfish that it’s ridiculous. He clearly has been healthy for awhile and tried to protect himself, while keeping the staff in the dark.
This is so wrong.
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I think above everything, we are seeing the issues with hiring a coach with zero experience, who has been completely removed from college basketball for 25+ years.
How would you deal with Lovett though? He's a legit top 50 talent and we had to take chances. You have to think Mullin and the staff learned a valuable lesson from this. They won't go down relying on a kid like Lovett again.
They already have Ponds, Trimble, Simon, Dixon, and Williams for next year. I'd imagine they use Lovett's ship either on a pure high school PG like Nowell or an immediately eligible transfer.
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People have recovered from death faster than Marcus has from his "knee injury"
Not sure if I will ever recover from that shirt he had on yesterday
LOL
LOL
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Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.
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At least we have a shot at the number 1 pick! Oh wait..
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Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.
Someone would need to kill a bunch of people to take over number one from Geno for me
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Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.
Someone would need to kill a bunch of people to take over number one from Geno for me
Lol. Wasju, you need to start on thread on this.
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Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.
The announcement by Marcus LoVett's dad caught the staff off guard. There was no discussion about him being shut down internally. #sjubb
Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.
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Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.
Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.
Zach's tweets are really killing me, hurts to see Lovett do this not only to the fans but more importantly his team mates
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Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.
Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.
Staff not-so-subtly taking shots at Marcus and his dad through Zach now. Could get ugly
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Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy, then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
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Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy, then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
Good guess I sense.
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Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy, then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
Good guess I sense.
There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services
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Don't think I've ever been more disappointed in a player. Can't fault the guy for wanting to make money playing ball but he and his father handled it poorly. Really hurt the team this year, hope there aren't any more repercussions.
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Was always a hot dog. Can’t stand him or that Ball is Life BS. Good riddance to the clown.
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Most guys with a competitive spirit want to be out there if they can stand up. Doesn't seem like Lovett is one of them.
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We need a guy with Anthony Glover’s heart
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https://nypost.com/2018/01/10/marcus-lovett-done-for-season-in-another-st-johns-crusher/
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Zach B
No decision has been made going forward of Marcus LoVett's status within the program, I'm told. #sjubb. It was always seen as unlikely he would be back next year.
The announcement by Marcus LoVett's dad caught the staff off guard. There was no discussion about him being shut down internally. #sjubb
Also noted ML was cleared to play a month ago.
Mullin has no control of things. This season is an unmitigated disaster.
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That scholarship needs to be freed up asap for next year. He needs to go. Being hurt is one thing but the lack of communication and relaying it through his dad's camp is babylike.
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Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy, then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
Good guess I sense.
There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services
Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?
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Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy, then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
Good guess I sense.
There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services
Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?
Ok. Please tell me why Lovett came to st. Johns
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The Mullin we need who use to ride his bike to Manhattan Beach play all morning then hop on the D train and go toe toe with Jackie Ryan is gone. That’s the guy we need.
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The Mullin we need who use to ride his bike to Manhattan Beach play all morning then hop on the D train and go toe toe with Jackie Ryan is gone. That’s the guy we need.
Jack Ryan was nasty
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Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy, then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
Good guess I sense.
There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services
Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?
Ok. Please tell me why Lovett came to st. Johns
That's not what I had an issue with , what you said was factual-- it's the rubbing everyone's face in urine routine, it's tired
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I guess I should call Lovett’s Pop see if wants to play for my cousin with the Tijuana Zonkeys 😂🤣
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Best guess. Wanted to make sure totally healthy, then once looked like season got away the figured what's the point
Good guess I sense.
There's a reason we beat out powerhouse Illinois for his services
Do we really have to go through another lost season AND Baldi's 18000+ post troll shtick?
Ok. Please tell me why Lovett came to st. Johns
That's not what I had an issue with , what you said was factual-- it's the rubbing everyone's face in urine routine, it's tired
Ok. I'm still asking. Why do you think Lovett came to St. Johns
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
He has to go too. Failure to produce a team that actually wants to be here
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I think above everything, we are seeing the issues with hiring a coach with zero experience, who has been completely removed from college basketball for 25+ years.
That’s not true. He sat in the stands and watched games.
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
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The Lovett's appear to take their lead from the Balls, next step for Marcus is Lithuania.
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A Phil Missere type we need for this team
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Anyway we can get Lavin back? At least when his players went AWOL we still made the tournament....
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Lovett' dad says it's not personal? Oh yes it is...
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None of this makes sense though from Lovetts angle either. Why sit out another season? He already redshirted. He'll have one season of basketball out of the last 3 years. Where's that going to get you a contract?
And what athlete doesn't want to suit up and play once they're ready. You got hurt, team is losing, so you just say f it I'm out ?
I expect college athletes to be selfish, but this doesn't even seem to benefit him.
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
I'm so tired of this "only recruit New York City kids" attitude a lot of the older fans have. Mullin stinks as a coach. You really think in a season where he should be canned if we don't win 19+ games that it would be a good idea to give 15 mins to a freshman ranked in the 250s? When you have a guy who can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag you need to counter that by bringing in the most talented players possible. I don't care if he comes from Zimbabwe, fill Lovetts scholarship with the most talented point guard you can possibly get.
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This team's fans suck.
If a kid on scholarship is hurt, you can't pull his scholarship because he gets hurt.
And I'm certain that one, if not both, of the Hurleys would have prevented LoVett from hurting his knee in the first place.
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This team's fans suck.
If a kid on scholarship is hurt, you can't pull his scholarship because he gets hurt.
And I'm certain that one, if not both, of the Hurleys would have prevented LoVett from hurting his knee in the first place.
Who's talking about pulling his scholarship? There's been rumors since last off-season of lovett leaving. Braziller tweeted its always been seen as a long shot he'd be back next year. Add in this injury fiasco and how old the kid is and I really doubt he puts on the red and white again.
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SJU press release
QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
I'm so tired of this "only recruit New York City kids" attitude a lot of the older fans have. Mullin stinks as a coach. You really think in a season where he should be canned if we don't win 19+ games that it would be a good idea to give 15 mins to a freshman ranked in the 250s? When you have a guy who can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag you need to counter that by bringing in the most talented players possible. I don't care if he comes from Zimbabwe, fill Lovetts scholarship with the most talented point guard you can possibly get.
First of all, I've never been a recruit NYC guy. Get the best talent wherever it comes from. Second, this kid is a killer. He's not the type of talent Lovett is, but he'll suit up and compete every game and won't let his daddy make his decisions for him. Do you want to throw away a season with Ponds and Simon as juniors because we don't have have a kid we can hand the ball off to for taking the pressure off Ponds and setting up our shooters? I'm tired of this positionless crap. It works when guys are great, but we have to be good first. This team needs structure. Why look further than NYC when we produce 5 pgs a year that can help us?
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None of this makes sense though from Lovetts angle either. Why sit out another season? He already redshirted. He'll have one season of basketball out of the last 3 years. Where's that going to get you a contract?
And what athlete doesn't want to suit up and play once they're ready. You got hurt, team is losing, so you just say f it I'm out ?
I expect college athletes to be selfish, but this doesn't even seem to benefit him.
Not sure how all of that works but would not be surprised if he leaves school and already has something set up somewhere.
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None of this makes sense though from Lovetts angle either. Why sit out another season? He already redshirted. He'll have one season of basketball out of the last 3 years. Where's that going to get you a contract?
And what athlete doesn't want to suit up and play once they're ready. You got hurt, team is losing, so you just say f it I'm out ?
I expect college athletes to be selfish, but this doesn't even seem to benefit him.
Not sure how all of that works but would not be surprised if he leaves school and already has something set up somewhere.
How does the Ball kids playing in Lithuania and Lavar running his mouth help them? The middle kid had no NBA future and now he can't play college ball. The other kid will be poison to GMs by the year's end. These dads are sabotaging their kids futures to steal the limelight. Why did this old man have to make the announcement? He couldn't let SJU do it or even his son? How could that possibly end well?
And if he really cared about his kid's future why not let him showcase his skills against Jalen Brunson and Trevon Duval in front of scouts the next few weeks?
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SJU press release
QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.
So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision
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SJU press release
QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.
So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision
Had same reaction. Puzzling saga.
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Didn't Zach say he was cleared weeks ago? Which is it?
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
I see you finally started listening to me Marillac. Alan Griffin out of Stepinac is a thought. Hyatt is another viable option should he decide to become 2018, hopefully Abs didn't burn his bridge by stopping his recruitment. Or perhaps.....Jordan Brown? One can wish. Dare I mention Jahvon Quinerly? Lol just kidding. We seriously have a hole at the 3 once Bash graduates, need to fill it with a capable immediate scorer.
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
I'm so tired of this "only recruit New York City kids" attitude a lot of the older fans have. Mullin stinks as a coach. You really think in a season where he should be canned if we don't win 19+ games that it would be a good idea to give 15 mins to a freshman ranked in the 250s? When you have a guy who can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag you need to counter that by bringing in the most talented players possible. I don't care if he comes from Zimbabwe, fill Lovetts scholarship with the most talented point guard you can possibly get.
First of all, I've never been a recruit NYC guy. Get the best talent wherever it comes from. Second, this kid is a killer. He's not the type of talent Lovett is, but he'll suit up and compete every game and won't let his daddy make his decisions for him. Do you want to throw away a season with Ponds and Simon as juniors because we don't have have a kid we can hand the ball off to for taking the pressure off Ponds and setting up our shooters? I'm tired of this positionless crap. It works when guys are great, but we have to be good first. This team needs structure. Why look further than NYC when we produce 5 pgs a year that can help us?
Sorry, I didn't mean to single you out with the only NYC comment. Just seemed to be the type of comment that would come up a lot during the previous regime and I always hated hearing it. 100% agree with your positionless comment. I want a real true pg who will create for others. I'd personally like taller pgs ala Rysheed or Shawn Livingston instead of what nowell appears to be. Disagree with your killer label based solely on his ranking by recruiting services. I don't think a kid that poorly thought of can be expected to seriously contribute as a frosh.
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So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?
This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.
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So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?
This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.
I was thinking the same thing at one point but that no longer makes sense with how this has played out over the past couple of days.
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This program is a joke. Time to cut ties with this joke of a coach and get a real coach.
Since Louie left we have had losing, bad Boston accents, swimmer assaults, paying terrible players, trains on skanks, losing, Norm, losing, losing, losing, best player suspension, Rysheed's Philly trips, losing, transfers and now the worst diagnosis since that doctor in Jaws got pressured into calling Chrissie Watkins being eaten a boating accident.
And those are the highlights.
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Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.
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Yeah, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But clearly, he's soft and selfish. Good luck playing in the B league in Europe.
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SJU press release
QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.
So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision
Had same reaction. Puzzling saga.
Probably more strategic for the program to lie so they seem loyal to the player and underplay the drama. I'm sure Mullin and co. is furious.
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I'm speechless.
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I'm speechless.
Your best post ever. ;) :)
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I'm speechless.
You can't speak on these boards you can only write. ::)
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
It looks like the staff is not recruiting him.
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
It looks like the staff is not recruiting him.
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SJU press release
QUEENS, N.Y. (Jan. 10, 2018) – The St. John’s men’s basketball program has announced that sophomore guard Marcus LoVett will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 campaign due to a left knee injury that he suffered in late November. Team physicians made the decision to sideline LoVett on Wednesday to focus on his rehabilitation, as he was not able to progress to on-court basketball activities.
“Marcus has a bright future ahead, so while it is disappointing that he will miss the remainder of the season, his long term health is the primary focus,” said St. John’s head coach Chris Mullin.
LoVett started all seven of his appearances this season and averaged 14.9 points per game. The Preseason Second Team All-BIG EAST selection dished out 12 assists and recorded 15 steals playing 32.7 minutes per contest.
So they are flat out lying in the release when they say team physicians made the decision
Had same reaction. Puzzling saga.
Probably more strategic for the program to lie so they seem loyal to the player and underplay the drama. I'm sure Mullin and co. is furious.
Exactly
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So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?
This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.
Than why did Mullin say he was going to practice?
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I have no scoop but I would have to think the staff will tell the kid to seek another program for next year. If he wouldn't even try to test the knee, not sure why the program would even want him around for next year.
With only 7 games played this year, he can probably get medical redshirt and fight to get cleared to play immediately next year.
I thought it was interesting that if the kid can't play due to injury that the school didn't immediately say it would be seeking a medical redshirt for the year.
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I have no scoop but I would have to think the staff will tell the kid to seek another program for next year. If he wouldn't even try to test the knee, not sure why the program would even want him around for next year.
With only 7 games played this year, he can probably get medical redshirt and fight get cleared to play immediately next year.
I thought it was interesting that if the kid can't play due to injury that the school didn't immediately say it would be seeking a medical redshirt for the year.
Would bet that he is leaving school and turns up in Europe shortly.
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Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.
Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?
It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?
The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.
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Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.
Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?
It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?
The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.
I don't believe him because he is not even trying to test it and let the medical staff evaluate after trying to play.
As for the comparing this to the Mets, its ridiculous. Matz, (your example) is a professional and gets paid by the Mets to do a job. SJU has no means to evaluate the player if he is refusing to try and play.
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Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.
Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?
It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?
The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.
Zach B said the doctors cleared him a month ago.
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This team's fans suck.
If a kid on scholarship is hurt, you can't pull his scholarship because he gets hurt.
And I'm certain that one, if not both, of the Hurleys would have prevented LoVett from hurting his knee in the first place.
Do the Hurleys have a special relationship with God that they could have prevented a knee injury. :) No pro team is going to offer a fragile midget who cant toughen up and play with what is apparently a minor injury which seems substantially cured. What happened to a player playing hurt? If he had any team spirit he would play and rest or operate on his fragile body offseason. He may be back next year because the offers will not be coming. F...ing Philly Pussy with no chutzpah, the antithesis of a mensch.
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So not to start a rumor but I was trying to connect my own dots on why Marcus wasn't playing and was beginning to think it might have been grades. Timing of his injury and to when he was coming back (Start of 2nd semester). Maybe he didn't get grades he needed?
This is me trying to make sense of things. I have no factual basis for this.
Why would they blatanly lie like this? I mean this is not semantics, this would be a complete falsehood if your theory is true.
Schools announce kids are ineligible for academics all the time. It happens. Why would SJU feel the need to invent an injury as opposed to telling the truth?
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Well then, I guess there's only one thing left to do.
Win the whole effin thing.
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Guess I'll have to be a Villanova fan for the rest of this year in order to battle my hoopwatching depression :tickedoff:
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Cant blame Mullin for taking a chance on the kid. Its not like we had better options. Let's not forget this was a Lavin recruit.
Why is this board so certain that LoVett is the problem here? If this was the Mets, and we were talking about Steven Matz would his injuries be his fault? Or would fans accept them as nothing more than bad luck?
It’s his knee. If he says it hurts why don’t we believe him?
The staff may feel like Lovett (incorrectly) let them down, and quite frankly, they have some nerve to have that attitude. It’s their own damn fault that the team has no bench in year 3.
It is absolutely a fundamental mistake that the staff elected to recruit for next year and risked this year's roster having no fat whatsoever. This team couldn't withstand one injury, how is that acceptable in Year3. We as diehards can comb through the depth chart, and understand the staff's idea of scholarship balance. But you're telling me that they couldn't recruit a grad transfer, Duane Wilson type for this year for insurance purposes instead of Sid Wilson? Give me a break. The public eye, common college basketball fan doesn't understand these details. They see a failing program in Year3 and that perception is what matters most.
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I think it is clear what happened. The kid's knee doesn't feel right to him, and he, his Dad and whoever else is involved decided it was best to not risk further injury and get healthy for when he tries to get a pro contract later this year. Regardless of where you think he'll play overseas or what type of money he might get that is what happened.
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I think it is clear what happened. The kid's knee doesn't feel right to him, and he, his Dad and whoever else is involved decided it was best to not risk further injury and get healthy for when he tries to get a pro contract later this year. Regardless of where you think he'll play overseas or what type of money he might get that is what happened.
Yup
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Was he ever cleared by doctors though. That's the key to me. If Lovett (and his dad) believe there's still something wrong, that's different than if hes recoveree but sitting out to protect himself for pro tryouts in June.
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I'm new to these boards and just want to give my take on this situation:
I was always a big fan of LoVett and his game, but he has lost just about all respect from me. Although I respect his decision on what he feels is best for him and his family, to drag this process out as long as he did, and then for his dad to announce the decision without informing the team first was certainly the wrong way of going about it. To not even test the knee out in a practice is not a good look. The way the school fought for him when he was ineligible, he certainly didn't return the favor. Now if he is truly does have pain, then its a different situation. But by all accounts, that doesn't appear to be the case, especially if doctors cleared him multiple times. And if in his mind any minor injury he sustained was going to scare him off from playing, then he should have just went overseas last year and not bothered returning.
Anyway, that's just my take. Looking forward to talking St. John's basketball with you guys! Just have to keep believing this will turn around sooner rather than later.
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I think it is clear what happened. The kid's knee doesn't feel right to him, and he, his Dad and whoever else is involved decided it was best to not risk further injury and get healthy for when he tries to get a pro contract later this year. Regardless of where you think he'll play overseas or what type of money he might get that is what happened.
It's a sprained knee man. Who on these boards hasn't played through that? Put on a brace some tape and a compression sleeve and you are fine. The doctors cleared him a month ago.
The issue is clear. His daddy calls the shots and does him no favors. He's been to 85 high schools and couldn't even get himself cleared to play as a 19 year old freshman. Do you know how easy it is for a normal kid with two parents to achieve the minimum standards of the NCAA?
His dad acts like he's Christian McCaffrey being held out of a bowl game after his team was eliminated from championship consideration to preserve draftability. This kid has no shot at playing in the NBA high level international ball. He has no resume to market to fans. I hope his bags are packed, he's not around the team anymore, and he's been notified that his scholarship will be filled by a team-first player. He can't make the 3 hour charter bus ride to Mohegan Sun 5 weeks after spraining his knee? Complete bs.
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If he didn't have structural damage and has had another month to heal even move after doctors said it was ok to test it out, something is fishy.
You would think the family might go get a second opinion or something.
There is something to this story that we are all missing, just don't know what it is.
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Agree with PMG's comment above.
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Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
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Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
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St John’s will honor Marcus LoVett’s scholarship. He will remain with program and rehab his knee as long as he wants to this year. Beyond that, future is uncertain. #sjubb
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Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
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St John’s will honor Marcus LoVett’s scholarship. He will remain with program and rehab his knee as long as he wants to this year. Beyond that, future is uncertain. #sjubb
It's not like they can do anything with the scholarship right now anyway. So, we may as well honor it. But, once the season is over, I think both parties will part.
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Is ML off the team, out of class,and done with SJU?
Thanks, Heard here that he only wants to go back to Philly. If so that kinda leaves the classroom out.
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St John’s will honor Marcus LoVett’s scholarship. He will remain with program and rehab his knee as long as he wants to this year. Beyond that, future is uncertain. #sjubb
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Lovett falls into Abe Keita category for me now. Second most hated Johnny of all-time.
Nuri Lindsey says hi
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How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
How does Matt fill the scholarship? I haven't looked, but most of the 4* and 5* are gone by now. Might find a 3*. Does SJU grab a 5th year guy? any transfer would have to sit out which would mean the kid we grabbed from Sacred Heart would play a lot of minutes next year.
Man, is sucks to be a fan of this team...
Easy: Markquis Nowell. https://youtu.be/sVXv1VEKJjc
Give him 15 mpg at point and bring some structure to the team.
It looks like the staff is not recruiting him.
Correct
He must be a regular kid therefore staff won't recruit him
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Chris Mullin said Marcus LoVett in on campus, still rehabbing. Team came to the city a few days early so he wasn’t in attendance today. #sjubb
This is the most puzzling quote yet.
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Chris Mullin said Marcus LoVett in on campus, still rehabbing. Team came to the city a few days early so he wasn’t in attendance today. #sjubb
This is the most puzzling quote yet.
Yeah guess it's very hard for a 22 year old man to get from Queens to Manhattan on his own. Probably didn't want to face the music from people over shutting it down early.
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0-18 in play
We Are Nostradamus
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Chris Mullin said Marcus LoVett in on campus, still rehabbing. Team came to the city a few days early so he wasn’t in attendance today. #sjubb
This is the most puzzling quote yet.
I don't find this quote confusing...
I think a lot of people are/were speculating that the kid was protecting himself in hopes of leaving for a professional contract. If he was that intent on leaving, why keep going to class.? Maybe he is just hedging himself to protect any college eligibility.
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No League, not Turkey, New Zealand or China, is going to give a contract to a 6 ft guard with a history of season-ending injuries who has played only 1 of the last 3 years. He is going to class because he will be back next year and because he probably wants an education.
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No League, not Turkey, New Zealand or China, is going to give a contract to a 6 ft guard with a history of season-ending injuries who has played only 1 of the last 3 years. He is going to class because he will be back next year and because he probably wants an education.
Do you really think this kid is remotely concerned with his education outside of his eligibility providing an outlet for him to play basketball.?
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
Lovett coming back would be tremendous. Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that. Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
Lovett coming back would be tremendous. Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that. Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
Lovett coming back would be tremendous. Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that. Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.
Whatdo you disagree with?
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
Lovett coming back would be tremendous. Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that. Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.
Whatdo you disagree with?
That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.
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Agree that we never see him again.
No one here should be surprised that he couldn't make it through this season. Hurling yourself to the floor after every shot is not conducive to making it through a college season, let alone what it bodes for a longer pro season.
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
Lovett coming back would be tremendous. Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that. Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.
Whatdo you disagree with?
That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.
Ok so say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
Lovett coming back would be tremendous. Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that. Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.
Whatdo you disagree with?
That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.
Ok so say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.
If being a believer means he gets to shoot 15 times a game, he can go do that at Iona
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He is 22 not 18 and he may be thinking that if this hoop thing doesn't work out I will need to make a living and the piece of paper will help. A 22 year old starts to think a bit more maturely. Apparently he is going to classes.
Lovett coming back would be tremendous. Lovett,Ponds, Simon,Owens at the 4 and Keita. Dixon, Trimble,Clark off the bench. I'll run with that. Drop the zeros on the staff, Matic and Matt.
Better chance the real Marco Baldi shows up on campus next year.
Whatdo you disagree with?
That Lovett ever plays for us again or that anyone ever sees him in Queens again after this year.
Ok so say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.
If being a believer means he gets to shoot 15 times a game, he can go do that at Iona
He would be welcome
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Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
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Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?
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Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?
Imagine if Mullin went to Duke? What would St Johns be
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Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?
Imagine if Mullin went to Duke? What would St Johns be
I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense.
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Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?
Imagine if Mullin went to Duke? What would St Johns be
I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense.
Well he would be welcome at Iona since the St Johns fans are completely out of their mind
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Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?
Imagine if Mullin went to Duke? What would St Johns be
I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense.
His entire posting strategy is a complete nonsensical mishmash of incoherent drivel done to waste everyone's time. He starts unfounded rumors, trashes a SJU assistant claiming he recruited "a last place team," then says a backcourt of Ponds, Lovett, Simon, Williams and DIxon is something he could see as really good next year. Except that is the same backcourt that was recruited by the guy who recruited a last place team so not sure how they can be any good since anyone can recruit a last place team. He then goes from talking about Tariq Owens to talking about Chris Mullin and SJU Alumni's. Seemingly no coherent connection.
It's almost as if he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about and pretends his way thru the day...
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Huge embarrassment St Johns alumnus are here. The face of the program,...
Are these just random words put together in an attempt to form a coherent thought?
Imagine if Mullin went to Duke? What would St Johns be
I'm just confused how you went from Tariq Owens would be welcome to Iona to some sort of sentence about embarrassment and SJU alumnus that didn't make sense.
His entire posting strategy is a complete nonsensical mishmash of incoherent drivel done to waste everyone's time. He starts unfounded rumors, trashes a SJU assistant claiming he recruited "a last place team," then says a backcourt of Ponds, Lovett, Simon, Williams and DIxon is something he could see as really good next year. Except that is the same backcourt that was recruited by the guy who recruited a last place team so not sure how they can be any good since anyone can recruit a last place team. He then goes from talking about Tariq Owens to talking about Chris Mullin and SJU Alumni's. Seemingly no coherent connection.
It's almost as if he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about and pretends his way thru the day...
I mean, we have some bot posting about home sex masturbation videos in the adjacent thread. I think it's safe to say that the entire board is gibberish at this point (present company excluded)
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Ok so say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.
Why make Owens a believer, the kid already sat out a transfer year, he is not going anywhere..
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Owens graduates in spring. He can go grad transfer route and not sit out a year.
I believe he'll stick around
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Ok so say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.
Why make Owens a believer, the kid already sat out a transfer year, he is not going anywhere..
Grad transfers don't have to sit out.
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Ok so say Lovett leaves. What now? Right now, Mullin needs to focus on Owens, make him a believer. He and his old man. Ahmed is gone, thank Christ.
Why make Owens a believer, the kid already sat out a transfer year, he is not going anywhere..
Grad transfers don't have to sit out.
I keep thinking of him as Junior and forget this is his 4th year in college...
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
His choice? our choice? or combo?
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
Where is he going..?
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
Where is he going..?
Most likely overseas.
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Was he at the game last night?
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
His choice? our choice? or combo?
Would you take him back?
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Was he at the game last night?
Yah, he was wearing his Mullin jersey.
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
His choice? our choice? or combo?
Would you take him back?
No. The book is closed on Lovett for St Johns. We need to move on. We have Dixon, Williams and probably a third guard coming in.
Nothing will surprise me this off season. Who stays, who goes, or any additions, no one and nothing going to surprise me after this season and the last fifteen seasons for that matter.
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
His choice? our choice? or combo?
Would you take him back?
Yup. Who is the PG next season?
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
His choice? our choice? or combo?
Would you take him back?
No. The book is closed on Lovett for St Johns. We need to move on. We have Dixon, Williams and probably a third guard coming in.
Nothing will surprise me this off season. Who stays, who goes, or any additions, no one and nothing going to surprise me after this season and the last fifteen seasons for that matter.
+1 goes for coaching staff as well.
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Any chance Lovett returns next year?
Zero
His choice? our choice? or combo?
Would you take him back?
showing no integrity at all, I'd say yes
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Heard from a couple of people today that Lovett is not attending classes..
If this is true, the school should cut ties with the kid and miraculously feed the story to Zach B
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Heard from a couple of people today that Lovett is not attending classes..
If this is true, the school should cut ties with the kid and miraculously feed the story to Zach B
That doesn’t surprise me. If that’s the case , why should we pay for any medical care? I agree w you ,he should be off the team if not attending classes.
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Heard he is headed to Lithuania to run with the Balls.
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Marcus LoVett tells us he’s not sure if he will be back at @StJohnsBBall next season. Said he’s not sure what will happen.
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Marcus LoVett tells us he’s not sure if he will be back at @StJohnsBBall next season. Said he’s not sure what will happen.
Honestly, that is what I'd expect him to say.
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Wouldn't be surprised if he is here next year
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Wouldn't be surprised if he is here next year
I would
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Marcus LoVett tells us he’s not sure if he will be back at @StJohnsBBall next season. Said he’s not sure what will happen.
Honestly, that is what I'd expect him to say.
Same -- he clearly knows he won't be but again showing no class. If PMG's sources are accurate, and I don't doubt they are, he knows he's not coming back.
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Not thrilled with the way it went down, but he could of packed up his stuff and left. Instead he's still in class and supporting his teammates. If nothing else he's supporting the program, and proud to be a Johnnie.
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Under different circumstances, I'd agree with you. In this particular case, I don't. He has yo-yo'ed the staff since last summer; If he wants to be gone, leave now. We don't need you on the sidelines when you are choosing not to play; I say choosing because this isn't a kid who has an injury that is preventing him from playing ball. If his pops was going to go this route - and Marcus seems like a great kid who is listening to people he believes have his best interests in mind - he should have just left last year and allowed us to build the team accordingly.
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Under different circumstances, I'd agree with you. In this particular case, I don't. He has yo-yo'ed the staff since last summer; If he wants to be gone, leave now. We don't need you on the sidelines when you are choosing not to play; I say choosing because this isn't a kid who has an injury that is preventing him from playing ball. If his pops was going to go this route - and Marcus seems like a great kid who is listening to people he believes have his best interests in mind - he should have just left last year and allowed us to build the team accordingly.
What is there for him to gain to not play if he is able to? Sorry that doesn't make sense. He may be healthy enough to try to play through whatever element he has, and I can see why the staff would want that. But he needs to look out for himself and make sure he is healthy. Ask OBJ what he gained. Clearly there is a health concern which is why he shut it down for the season.
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Kids play through minor, nagging injuries all the time, without long term effect. That is what Shamorie is doing.
No one believes this is an issue that could have long term implications.
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If I was the staff I would move on from him.
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Maybe there is another issue, other than injury
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Under different circumstances, I'd agree with you. In this particular case, I don't. He has yo-yo'ed the staff since last summer; If he wants to be gone, leave now. We don't need you on the sidelines when you are choosing not to play; I say choosing because this isn't a kid who has an injury that is preventing him from playing ball. If his pops was going to go this route - and Marcus seems like a great kid who is listening to people he believes have his best interests in mind - he should have just left last year and allowed us to build the team accordingly.
What is there for him to gain to not play if he is able to? Sorry that doesn't make sense. He may be healthy enough to try to play through whatever element he has, and I can see why the staff would want that. But he needs to look out for himself and make sure he is healthy. Ask OBJ what he gained. Clearly there is a health concern which is why he shut it down for the season.
Kid is a coward, and a flake. He never stuck around at any high school than more than a year or two and he's doing the same now. Just be a man and admit what you're doing instead lying. I don't get how any fan of this team has any sympathy for this loser.
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If I was the staff I would move on from him.
They will
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Kids play through minor, nagging injuries all the time, without long term effect. That is what Shamorie is doing.
No one believes this is an issue that could have long term implications.
I don't think its fair to the kid to have an opinion one way or the other absent of actually knowing what the issue is. We are assuming its minor, again I can't believe that to be the case for him to sit out the season. It clearly warrants it in his mind. He wouldn't be sitting behind the bench dressed head to toe in STJ gear supporting his teammates if he didn't want to be part of the program. This is a business decision.
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I will always respect him for sticking through the ineligible freshmen season when everyone had him fingered as good as gone.
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I will always respect him for sticking through the ineligible freshmen season when everyone had him fingered as good as gone.
Maybe he deserved respect then. But now? Someone who's medically cleared to play but refuses to play doesn't deserve it. Especially given the circumstances. Staff would be nuts to accept him back for this year. He (or his dad, who knows) blew it. I feel bad for him, almost.
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I will always respect him for sticking through the ineligible freshmen season when everyone had him fingered
Pics or it didn't happen.
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Perhaps this, too, though I think he has a pretty good head on his shoulders. This is him listening to other people in his lives - who no doubt believe they have his best interests in mind - but are doing him a disservice as there are plenty of things he could have improved on playing against really good Big East back courts every night. As I've said, he seems like a great kid and I loved watching him play. Just don't appreciate the yo-yo stuff over the past year. If you want to get paid to play, by all means go do so. Don't string us and the staff along. If this season was one in which you weren't enough of a team guy to play through a minor injury that many others would, just move on last summer so we don't lose Ellison and/or can recruit accordingly. No capable guard transfer or JUCO was coming here with Lovett, Ponds and Simon slotted to get pretty much all the backup minutes.
Maybe there is another issue, other than injury
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Don't string us and the staff along.
Can you elaborate how he has done this? Are you privy to any conversations LoVett and his team had with the staff?
If this season was one in which you weren't enough of a team guy to play through a minor injury that many others would
Can you please share with us exactly what this "minor" injury you speak of is?
I would be careful with the assumptions that are being made.
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You're not allowed to storm the court at the Garden anymore, he is very lucky that security didn't escort him out of the arena.