6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: goredmen on January 30, 2018, 07:54:53 PM
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Which number will be greater tonight:
Xavier's margin of victory
Or
Porn-bot posts during the game
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Porn bots
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Why did Rhode Island foul? Aren’t you supposed to let the other team tie the game?
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We have a chance tonight. I put money on Xavier to win.
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This one of those games where the refs say to eachother "we are not gonna call a foul for the first 6 minutes." Later we'll see 3 fouls within a minute.
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Look at that first foul on Xavier. That has happened on nearly every play up to that point. It is so bad.
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Just can’t compete with Amar and Trimble on the court at the same time. 8-0 run for X as soon as they get in.
Guess the staff still thinks the only reason we give up a ton of 3s is because teams shoot the lights out not because we don’t guard the 3 point line
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Ahmed
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Ahmed
Heady player
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Ahmed
Heady player
F#ckFoad's favorite. As for Foad's use of the term phaggotrry he would know about that as he probably has one up his arse, one in his mouth, and one in each hand.
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Ahmed
You can really see how much he’s learned from the staff.
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Ahmed
Heady player
F#ckFoad's favorite. As for Foad's use of the term phaggotrry you would know about that as your probably have one up your arse, one in your mouth, and one in each hand.
omg what are you talking about dude
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Ahmed
Heady player
F#ckFoad's favorite. As for Foad's use of the term phaggotrry you would know about that as your probably have one up your arse, one in your mouth, and one in each hand.
omg what are you talking about dude
Read my edited post to avoid confusion on who I was referring to. Was referring to UniFoad.
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I wonder if this team could beat Kevin Clark’s 03-04 Johnnies.
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Sad that we are wasting ponds
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Sad that we are wasting ponds
He isn’t healthy. That’s the unfortunate part of this. Hasn’t played defense since Providence. Probably because he can’t phsyically do it.
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Ponds is so good
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Macura have sex tapes of all Big east refs? Good god
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Mullin is lost as a coach. Horrible game mismanagement in the last 2 minutes.
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We have talent. But the coaching at the end of games is the worst I've ever seen. Mullin needs to either hire a seasoned 10+ year veteran assistant coach or step down.
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Just do not know how to win. Can't say it enough. If Mullin really believes he will succeed, he will learn from these losses and get a experienced staff on board next year, because he is a clueless a coach, as there is in CBB.
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Really good effort but poor execution down the stretch and Xavier makes 8 straight from the free throw line and SJU bricks 3 critical ones in the last minute...
Lost season continues...
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
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Which number will be greater tonight:
Xavier's margin of victory
Or
Porn-bot posts during the game
Might have been a push
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Thought team played good defense in second half. Definitely benefited from x missing lots of open 3s. Absolutely atrocious crunch time performance. 5 missed free throws, shot clock violation coming out of a time out, tariq Owens travel. They stayed in it just to rip my heart out at the end.
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In the last minutes of the game coming off timeouts they can't get off a shot. You still got the kid drawing up the plays. Sad
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Awesome times being a St. John’s fan. #keepponds
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
Yes, the missed FTs are not on Mullin. These guys do get the yips at the line in big spots like I've never seen before.
But the shot clock violation out of the timeout was horrible. They were lost that whole possession.
You have to expect Xavier will apply some full court pressure and deny Ponds in that situation. It's the coach's job to figure out a way to get him the ball
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
I say this is Mullin, because even with missed free throws, which is part of game, they had multiple opportunities to win, and do not know how. There is zero offensive play execution because guys do not know what to do. They have no one to turn to on the coaching staff that can draw a play to get the guys in position to make a play in crunch time. The opposing coaches have made a living beating us in crunch time with adjustments, and not a hard one. Take the ball out of Ponds hand. Easy enough, when 4 guys stand around and teams can double team ponds. Without Lovett, no one can make a play because A, they are not good enough, and B, there are no plays to help Ponds get open.
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This has been the most gut wrenching season I've seen as a fan. It would be more tolerable if I thought we were actually a shitty team. I don't think we are. But we find ways to lose every single game.
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Watching the game and listening to the post game, both the announcers and post games guys took shots at Mullin without saying his name. Used words like Horrible offense, good players, terrible execution. Pretty easy to see for us fans, and even easier for guys who are around the game all the time.
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
I say this is Mullin, because even with missed free throws, which is part of game, they had multiple opportunities to win, and do not know how. There is zero offensive play execution because guys do not know what to do. They have no one to turn to on the coaching staff that can draw a play to get the guys in position to make a play in crunch time. The opposing coaches have made a living beating us in crunch time with adjustments, and not a hard one. Take the ball out of Ponds hand. Easy enough, when 4 guys stand around and teams can double team ponds. Without Lovett, no one can make a play because A, they are not good enough, and B, there are no plays to help Ponds get open.
I'm not sure how many plays can be run to get a guy open on a full court sprint. I'm sure theyre out there and have been used in the past but definitely not easy. I'd need to see that play again but it did look like they ran a screen or two to get him open on the inbounds, it just didn't work.
I'm not sitting here saying Mullin did a good job or anything but a tough loss at home against the #6 team where you miss a bunch of free throws and are victim of a couple questionable calls towards the end is hard to put on the coach. I think coming into the season most people expected to lose this game WITH Lovett.
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We have talent. But the coaching at the end of games is the worst I've ever seen. Mullin needs to either hire a seasoned 10+ year veteran assistant coach or step down.
Peter John Carlesimo
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I guess the big question for me is: Do we lose more current and future players if Mullin stays or if he goes?
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We have talent. But the coaching at the end of games is the worst I've ever seen. Mullin needs to either hire a seasoned 10+ year veteran assistant coach or step down.
Peter John Carlesimo
He will be 69 years old before next season. Maybe Mullin could just quit
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Late game execution was absolutely horrible. Not sure what was worse the shot clock violation out of the timeout or Ponds not getting the ball at the end of the game. This coaching staff is absolutely clueless. Mullin doesn't say much during the timeouts, while Richmond is looking at the crowd, leaving it up to St. Jean who is slightly older than the players. If Mullin doesn't get fired (which I am not calling for), St. Jean needs to go and Richmond at the least needs to go back to being a special assistant. Need an 2 assistants with significant college experience who know x's and o's and can recruit.
Also, the officiating once again was abysmal. Same ref that officiated the Nova game too. Still don't know how Bluiett was fouled and Tariq generally times his blocks perfectly.
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Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what SJU is, a bad team. After the shot clock violation, Mullin is complaining to the refs instead of getting his team ready on defense. He should absolutely get fired, but wont, and thats the sickening part with this whole mess this season.
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Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what SJU is, a bad team. After the shot clock violation, Mullin is complaining to the refs instead of getting his team ready on defense. He should absolutely get fired, but wont, and thats the sickening part with this whole mess this season.
Modest change = Mullin back plus year 4 of st. Jean. Only chance he is shamed into quitting. 31 games under .500. How is that even possible?
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I just don't see how this guy really wants to be a coach. He has shown nothing in learning from mistakes and still can't control a timeout by calling a play.
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
What happened on the last two offensive possessions? Where was the coach? Why aren’t we running for a play for Ponds? Why the f is the ball in Ahmed’s hands? He plays like he’s never played organized ball before. Mullin is inept, and it’s clear that he’s not learning from isn’t working.
It’s over. Either he’s out or everyone else will be. Who in their right mind will buy tickets to see him blow every single game?
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Man...watching these two post game clips of Mullin is really sad to watch....
https://mobile.twitter.com/marleypaul22?lang=en
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Poison is right.....Inept is a great adjective to describe this staff
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Painful.
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Mullin looked completely flustered at the end of that game. Apparently he was barking to Stu Jackson.
https://twitter.com/PBrennanENQ/status/958547772227096576
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Mullin went full Norm Roberts tonight.
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Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what SJU is, a bad team. After the shot clock violation, Mullin is complaining to the refs instead of getting his team ready on defense. He should absolutely get fired, but wont, and thats the sickening part with this whole mess this season.
Modest change = Mullin back plus year 4 of st. Jean. Only chance he is shamed into quitting. 31 games under .500. How is that even possible?
Can we shame you to stop posting?
Seriously are you typing these things from the Overlook Hotel?
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Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what SJU is, a bad team. After the shot clock violation, Mullin is complaining to the refs instead of getting his team ready on defense. He should absolutely get fired, but wont, and thats the sickening part with this whole mess this season.
Modest change = Mullin back plus year 4 of st. Jean. Only chance he is shamed into quitting. 31 games under .500. How is that even possible?
Can we shame you to stop posting?
Seriously are typing these things from the Overlook Hotel?
This is like myself and realfan back in the day
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The possession at the end was awful . But honestly college kids always wait too long to make their move at end of shot clock.
Bill Raftery would never get to say his catch phrase about any of our guys after shooting clutch free throws.
With no low post option and the way we shoot free throws at end of games I don't think we will ever win a close game.
One game this year Ponds and Simon will play well at the same time and we will win.
Mr Owens still think Tariq should get 12 -15 shots a night?
Refs sucked!
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Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what SJU is, a bad team. After the shot clock violation, Mullin is complaining to the refs instead of getting his team ready on defense. He should absolutely get fired, but wont, and thats the sickening part with this whole mess this season.
Modest change = Mullin back plus year 4 of st. Jean. Only chance he is shamed into quitting. 31 games under .500. How is that even possible?
Can we shame you to stop posting?
Seriously are typing these things from the Overlook Hotel?
This is like myself and realfan back in the day
Tony makes Realfan look like John Steinbeck. Only in all caps.
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The possession at the end was awful . But honestly college kids always wait too long to make their move at end of shot clock.
Bill Raftery would never get to say his catch phrase about any of our guys after shooting clutch free throws.
With no low post option and the way we shoot free throws at end of games I don't think we will ever win a close game.
One game this year Ponds and Simon will play well at the same time and we will win.
Mr Owens still think Tariq should get 12 -15 shots a night?
Refs sucked!
When Ponds and Simon play well it’s because they attack the basket and finish. But they aren’t working together when they do this.
I can understand Tariq’s dad getting angry at Mullin. Tariq is unselfish. He was never expected to be a star here. He hustles but he doesn’t have the strength to post up, fight through screens or even box out. At the end of the game his numbers are often pretty good, but the box score doesn’t tell the story of how he got worked in the paint. He thinks he’s a three. Everyone else thinks they’re a two. Instead of a positionless lineup maybe we could try positions?
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The possession at the end was awful . But honestly college kids always wait too long to make their move at end of shot clock.
Bill Raftery would never get to say his catch phrase about any of our guys after shooting clutch free throws.
With no low post option and the way we shoot free throws at end of games I don't think we will ever win a close game.
One game this year Ponds and Simon will play well at the same time and we will win.
Mr Owens still think Tariq should get 12 -15 shots a night?
Refs sucked!
When Ponds and Simon play well it’s because they attack the basket and finish. But they aren’t working together when they do this.
I can understand Tariq’s dad getting angry at Mullin. Tariq is unselfish. He was never expected to be a star here. He hustles but he doesn’t have the strength to post up, fight through screens or even box out. At the end of the game his numbers are often pretty good, but the box score doesn’t tell the story of how he got worked in the paint. He thinks he’s a three. Everyone else thinks they’re a two. Instead of a positionless lineup maybe we could try positions?
I like Owens but any points he scores are a bonus. He does not have the skill set to be a featured player. Hs a nice touch but not good enough to warrant our only big shooting jumpers. If he had any weight and or a post move then he could have all the shots his heart desired.
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
Yes, the missed FTs are not on Mullin. These guys do get the yips at the line in big spots like I've never seen before.
But the shot clock violation out of the timeout was horrible. They were lost that whole possession.
You have to expect Xavier will apply some full court pressure and deny Ponds in that situation. It's the coach's job to figure out a way to get him the ball
Bad possession absolutely but the only "play" working was Ponds at top of key penetrating. They were going to run a double at him with Clark's man staying at home and Mack not caring what the other 3 guys did. If you set a pick up top the pickers man would jump Ponds and let his man go wherever he wanted. I guess you could have had Clark screen for Ponds.
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The possession at the end was awful . But honestly college kids always wait too long to make their move at end of shot clock.
Bill Raftery would never get to say his catch phrase about any of our guys after shooting clutch free throws.
With no low post option and the way we shoot free throws at end of games I don't think we will ever win a close game.
One game this year Ponds and Simon will play well at the same time and we will win.
Mr Owens still think Tariq should get 12 -15 shots a night?
Refs sucked!
When Ponds and Simon play well it’s because they attack the basket and finish. But they aren’t working together when they do this.
I can understand Tariq’s dad getting angry at Mullin. Tariq is unselfish. He was never expected to be a star here. He hustles but he doesn’t have the strength to post up, fight through screens or even box out. At the end of the game his numbers are often pretty good, but the box score doesn’t tell the story of how he got worked in the paint. He thinks he’s a three. Everyone else thinks they’re a two. Instead of a positionless lineup maybe we could try positions?
I like Owens but any points he scores are a bonus. He does not have the skill set to be a featured player. Hs a nice touch but not good enough to warrant our only big shooting jumpers. If he had any weight and or a post move then he could have all the shots his heart desired.
We’d all like him to have learned a post up game, but he’s a three. If he was playing the three and the staff had a real center and a real power forward, he’d be shooting three pointers and ten footers over guys that are 6’5. Let’s not blame the player for the position he’s been put in.
Ponds is playing out position, too. So is Marvin Clark.
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The possession at the end was awful . But honestly college kids always wait too long to make their move at end of shot clock.
Bill Raftery would never get to say his catch phrase about any of our guys after shooting clutch free throws.
With no low post option and the way we shoot free throws at end of games I don't think we will ever win a close game.
One game this year Ponds and Simon will play well at the same time and we will win.
Mr Owens still think Tariq should get 12 -15 shots a night?
Refs sucked!
When Ponds and Simon play well it’s because they attack the basket and finish. But they aren’t working together when they do this.
I can understand Tariq’s dad getting angry at Mullin. Tariq is unselfish. He was never expected to be a star here. He hustles but he doesn’t have the strength to post up, fight through screens or even box out. At the end of the game his numbers are often pretty good, but the box score doesn’t tell the story of how he got worked in the paint. He thinks he’s a three. Everyone else thinks they’re a two. Instead of a positionless lineup maybe we could try positions?
I like Owens but any points he scores are a bonus. He does not have the skill set to be a featured player. Hs a nice touch but not good enough to warrant our only big shooting jumpers. If he had any weight and or a post move then he could have all the shots his heart desired.
We’d all like him to have learned a post up game, but he’s a three. If he was playing the three and the staff had a real center and a real power forward, he’d be shooting three pointers and ten footers over guys that are 6’5. Let’s not blame the player for the position he’s been put in.
Ponds is playing out position, too. So is Marvin Clark.
In what world is Tariq a 3? He can't create his own shot, he can't dribble and he can't defend quicker players without fouling. He should be coming off the bench providing some good minutes and lifting the team with his defense , but unfortunately the roster is depleted.
Most parents think their kids deserve to be the star of the team. Tariq's Dad needs to stop taking lowkey shots at Shamorie on Twitter, it's pretty classless. I wouldn't be surprised if Tariq looks to go elsewhere to "showcase" himself. Every SJU player thinks they belong in the NBA but cant win a damn BE game. Shameful.
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I agree that the coaching staff really is inept, and most of this falls on them. On the other hand this team really isn't that good. How many open looks do they miss!? Clark missed numerous wide open jumpers from the high post tonight after a drive and kick. How many times did ponds penetrate and kick the ball out to ahmed or clark for a wide open 3 that would have put them up 8-10 points and they just can't hit it and swing the momentum. We can never hit a dagger.These guys miss layups as much as they miss defensive assignments. Why do we constantly switch and have Tariq guarding one of the guards. This happened numerous times against Creighton with him on Khyri and tonight with him on Bluiett? It just does not make any sense. It is also very hard to win with a team that how no low post presence and not very good outside shooters. They basically stand around the perimeter and wait for ponds to do something. They have some pieces that are good role players on good teams, but just the defensive IQ of this team will notion them games, especially close games in crunch time.
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In the last minutes of the game coming off timeouts they can't get off a shot. You still got the kid drawing up the plays. Sad
Funny thing is two of the players didn't know where they were supposed on the play. How is that? Mullin and St.Jean were yelling at them about where to go. Not the only time it happened. Seemed like every out of bounds play the players didn't know the plays.
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In the last minutes of the game coming off timeouts they can't get off a shot. You still got the kid drawing up the plays. Sad
Funny thing is two of the players didn't know where they were supposed on the play. How is that? Mullin and St.Jean were yelling at them about where to go. Not the only time it happened. Seemed like every out of bounds play the players didn't know the plays.
Gotta bring in smarter players. All the basics should be known already coming into college. Give me a leas talented kid with something between his ears any day. Better in the long run
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Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what SJU is, a bad team. After the shot clock violation, Mullin is complaining to the refs instead of getting his team ready on defense. He should absolutely get fired, but wont, and thats the sickening part with this whole mess this season.
Modest change = Mullin back plus year 4 of st. Jean. Only chance he is shamed into quitting. 31 games under .500. How is that even possible?
Can we shame you to stop posting?
Seriously are typing these things from the Overlook Hotel?
This is like myself and realfan back in the day
Tony makes Realfan look like John Steinbeck. Only in all caps.
3 mentions in one short span. Obsessed much? Trying to get in the holy trinity of fierce person gotry? Sorry wouldn’t let me call you a fxg.
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Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what SJU is, a bad team. After the shot clock violation, Mullin is complaining to the refs instead of getting his team ready on defense. He should absolutely get fired, but wont, and thats the sickening part with this whole mess this season.
Modest change = Mullin back plus year 4 of st. Jean. Only chance he is shamed into quitting. 31 games under .500. How is that even possible?
Can we shame you to stop posting?
Seriously are typing these things from the Overlook Hotel?
This is like myself and realfan back in the day
Tony makes Realfan look like John Steinbeck. Only in all caps.
3 mentions in one short span. Obsessed much? Trying to get in the holy trinity of fierce person gotry? Sorry wouldn’t let me call you a fxg.
This was your best post even if it didn't make any sense. See you didn't type Mullin and quit.Good job.
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It's a combination of a million things - the type of players, coaching, the circumstances (think our kids are pressing and playing tighter in close games because they know the situation), being exhausted (playing all game wears on you and it hasn't helped in these close ones). Norm's players went from kids no one wanted for three years - many of whom were often called "athletes" and not "basketball players" -- to the toast of this board and the city. This year has been gut wrenching on so many levels and I really feel for these kids. Staff needs to make improvements in certain respects and ensure everyone returns (sans Lovett) so that we have talent and depth next year.
In the last minutes of the game coming off timeouts they can't get off a shot. You still got the kid drawing up the plays. Sad
Funny thing is two of the players didn't know where they were supposed on the play. How is that? Mullin and St.Jean were yelling at them about where to go. Not the only time it happened. Seemed like every out of bounds play the players didn't know the plays.
Gotta bring in smarter players. All the basics should be known already coming into college. Give me a leas talented kid with something between his ears any day. Better in the long run
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
I say this is Mullin, because even with missed free throws, which is part of game, they had multiple opportunities to win, and do not know how. There is zero offensive play execution because guys do not know what to do. They have no one to turn to on the coaching staff that can draw a play to get the guys in position to make a play in crunch time. The opposing coaches have made a living beating us in crunch time with adjustments, and not a hard one. Take the ball out of Ponds hand. Easy enough, when 4 guys stand around and teams can double team ponds. Without Lovett, no one can make a play because A, they are not good enough, and B, there are no plays to help Ponds get open.
This is not rocket science. These guys have been playing the game from the schoolyard or grammar school to the present - let's say 10 to 40 years including coaches. The game doesn't change. The plays are the same. Why do we look like we just picked up a ball for the first time.
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Don't know how people could say that is Mullin at the end. 4 missed free throws? I'm sure they told them to give ponds the ball but he was well covered and didn't get it...
I say this is Mullin, because even with missed free throws, which is part of game, they had multiple opportunities to win, and do not know how. There is zero offensive play execution because guys do not know what to do. They have no one to turn to on the coaching staff that can draw a play to get the guys in position to make a play in crunch time. The opposing coaches have made a living beating us in crunch time with adjustments, and not a hard one. Take the ball out of Ponds hand. Easy enough, when 4 guys stand around and teams can double team ponds. Without Lovett, no one can make a play because A, they are not good enough, and B, there are no plays to help Ponds get open.
This is not rocket science. These guys have been playing the game from the schoolyard or grammar school to the present - let's say 10 to 40 years including coaches. The game doesn't change. The plays are the same. Why do we look like we just picked up a ball for the first time.
Clearly it is rocket science for Mullin as all he needed to do was have his team run an offensive set with a little over a minute left last night and good things would've happened. The game was tied and was there for the taking. Either a Ponds drive and foul or a make. Clearly Xavier couldn't stop Ponds all night so why play right into Xavier's hands there and not attack or how about just running your offense? Instead Mullin has Ponds isolate at the top of the key and hold the ball for 20+ seconds before even looking to make a move which resulted in more dipshittery and a shot clock violation. Total lack of coaching there. Biddy ball stuff.
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Positives - crowd was outstanding. Kids left it all on the floor and have NOT thrown in the towel (I was afraid of this based on the Butler game). Marvin Clark showed he can rebound and did. Shamorie played well even banged up.
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Xavier St Johns recap http://www.bigeastboards.com/
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
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Was Lovett there last night?
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
Why don’t we have players? Sima is starting for a tournament team? Ellison left, sitting out. Williams left, not even playing. The German and Italian quit school. Lovett quit the team.
This guy get a pass because everyone he recuits quits on him so he can’t field a full team?
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
Why don’t we have players? Sima is starting for a tournament team? Ellison left, sitting out. Williams left, not even playing. The German and Italian quit school. Lovett quit the team.
This guy get a pass because everyone he recuits quits on him so he can’t field a full team?
This is the last year he's getting a free pass from me.
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https://t.co/VHQM8cDlIF
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
Why don’t we have players? Sima is starting for a tournament team? Ellison left, sitting out. Williams left, not even playing. The German and Italian quit school. Lovett quit the team.
This guy get a pass because everyone he recuits quits on him so he can’t field a full team?
This is the last year he's getting a free pass from me.
I am with you Krusty.
I would never go full on crazy and keep posting the same thing every 5 mins, but if not big turn around next year he should go.
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
Why don’t we have players? Sima is starting for a tournament team? Ellison left, sitting out. Williams left, not even playing. The German and Italian quit school. Lovett quit the team.
This guy get a pass because everyone he recuits quits on him so he can’t field a full team?
OK State is not a tournament team, they are 13-9, 8th in Big 12. Sima has started 8 games for them averaging less minutes and points than he did here. Would have been nice if he and other stayed (esp. Ellison) but lets not act like some of these guys left and had their potential unlocked for great teams.
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
Why don’t we have players? Sima is starting for a tournament team? Ellison left, sitting out. Williams left, not even playing. The German and Italian quit school. Lovett quit the team.
This guy get a pass because everyone he recuits quits on him so he can’t field a full team?
OK State is not a tournament team, they are 13-9, 8th in Big 12. Sima has started 8 games for them averaging less minutes and points than he did here. Would have been nice if he and other stayed (esp. Ellison) but lets not act like some of these guys left and had their potential unlocked for great teams.
Funny I had forgotten all about Sima. One day last week I shut off my TV to go to work while watching Boomer and Gio. Later that night when I got home I put on my TV and OK State was playing. I was only half paying attention and saw a guy get called fro traveling on awkward post move. I said to myself, that guy stinks. Then the announcer said his name.
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We play 7 kids with man to man defense for almost 40 minutes and people are shocked that we miss free throws at the end of games?
There was a reason I was negative for the first time since the Norm days this summer. How does anyone win with this roster? College basketball is a guards game. You need 4-5 minimum. We have maaaaaaybe two. I'm bullish on next season so long as we don't lose more than two kids and Ponds stays. We will have the #1 turnaround in the country and Mullin will be getting more good press than we've seen on 25 years.
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We play 7 kids with man to man defense for almost 40 minutes and people are shocked that we miss free throws at the end of games?
There was a reason I was negative for the first time since the Norm days this summer. How does anyone win with this roster? College basketball is a guards game. You need 4-5 minimum. We have maaaaaaybe two. I'm bullish on next season so long as we don't lose more than two kids and Ponds stays. We will have the #1 turnaround in the country and Mullin will be getting more good press than we've seen on 25 years.
I was livid last offseason. The 2017 recruiting class was a absolute failure and is a huge reason for our struggles. We gambled on the slimmest margin of error and it blew up in our faces-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4278403/hasahn-french
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277869/jose-alvarado
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277967/isaiah-washington
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2018/jan/25/vols-freshmforward-derrick-walker-takes-advan/462069/
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66947/nura-zanna
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
. . . due to poor execution in crunch time. Work me up in a lather, rinse me with IPA and repeat next game. I don't doubt that there are some issues with players but they look like they have not been shown what to do in end game situations at all. Same mistakes every game. That's a preparation issue, either bad preparation or insufficient preparation. Both are coaching issues.
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
. . . due to poor execution in crunch time. Work me up in a lather, rinse me with IPA and repeat next game. I don't doubt that there are some issues with players but they look like they have not been shown what to do in end game situations at all. Same mistakes every game. That's a preparation issue, either bad preparation or insufficient preparation. Both are coaching issues.
You know why you want see good coaches have problems with guys with low basketball IQ's?
They don't recruit them. You think if Ahmed played for Duke he would all of a sudden become Shane Battier?
Same thing in the pros. Why you won't see Michael Beasley(who I really like BTW) ever play on the Spurs.
To get talent at ST john's sometimes have to look the other way at certain things that better programs wouldn't.
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We play 7 kids with man to man defense for almost 40 minutes and people are shocked that we miss free throws at the end of games?
There was a reason I was negative for the first time since the Norm days this summer. How does anyone win with this roster? College basketball is a guards game. You need 4-5 minimum. We have maaaaaaybe two. I'm bullish on next season so long as we don't lose more than two kids and Ponds stays. We will have the #1 turnaround in the country and Mullin will be getting more good press than we've seen on 25 years.
I was livid last offseason. The 2017 recruiting class was a absolute failure and is a huge reason for our struggles. We gambled on the slimmest margin of error and it blew up in our faces-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4278403/hasahn-french
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277869/jose-alvarado
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277967/isaiah-washington
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2018/jan/25/vols-freshmforward-derrick-walker-takes-advan/462069/
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66947/nura-zanna
As was I, and I got a ton of crap for my negativity. Dixon and Williams gives us 5 guys that can play 1-3. I'd like to see a dump it off type of PG to give this team some structure. I think there are
25 wins out there for next season with a few changes.
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We play 7 kids with man to man defense for almost 40 minutes and people are shocked that we miss free throws at the end of games?
There was a reason I was negative for the first time since the Norm days this summer. How does anyone win with this roster? College basketball is a guards game. You need 4-5 minimum. We have maaaaaaybe two. I'm bullish on next season so long as we don't lose more than two kids and Ponds stays. We will have the #1 turnaround in the country and Mullin will be getting more good press than we've seen on 25 years.
I was livid last offseason. The 2017 recruiting class was a absolute failure and is a huge reason for our struggles. We gambled on the slimmest margin of error and it blew up in our faces-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4278403/hasahn-french
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277869/jose-alvarado
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277967/isaiah-washington
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2018/jan/25/vols-freshmforward-derrick-walker-takes-advan/462069/
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66947/nura-zanna
As was I, and I got a ton of crap for my negativity. Dixon and Williams gives us 5 guys that can play 1-3. I'd like to see a dump it off type of PG to give this team some structure. I think there are
25 wins out there for next season with a few changes.
Take 20 tops
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We play 7 kids with man to man defense for almost 40 minutes and people are shocked that we miss free throws at the end of games?
There was a reason I was negative for the first time since the Norm days this summer. How does anyone win with this roster? College basketball is a guards game. You need 4-5 minimum. We have maaaaaaybe two. I'm bullish on next season so long as we don't lose more than two kids and Ponds stays. We will have the #1 turnaround in the country and Mullin will be getting more good press than we've seen on 25 years.
I was livid last offseason. The 2017 recruiting class was a absolute failure and is a huge reason for our struggles. We gambled on the slimmest margin of error and it blew up in our faces-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4278403/hasahn-french
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277869/jose-alvarado
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277967/isaiah-washington
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2018/jan/25/vols-freshmforward-derrick-walker-takes-advan/462069/
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66947/nura-zanna
As was I, and I got a ton of crap for my negativity. Dixon and Williams gives us 5 guys that can play 1-3. I'd like to see a dump it off type of PG to give this team some structure. I think there are
25 wins out there for next season with a few changes.
Take 20
18
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
. . . due to poor execution in crunch time. Work me up in a lather, rinse me with IPA and repeat next game. I don't doubt that there are some issues with players but they look like they have not been shown what to do in end game situations at all. Same mistakes every game. That's a preparation issue, either bad preparation or insufficient preparation. Both are coaching issues.
You know why you want see good coaches have problems with guys with low basketball IQ's?
They don't recruit them. You think if Ahmed played for Duke he would all of a sudden become Shane Battier?
Same thing in the pros. Why you won't see Michael Beasley(who I really like BTW) ever play on the Spurs.
To get talent at ST john's sometimes have to look the other way at certain things that better programs wouldn't.
There are dozens of teams in the well coached spectrum between STJ and Duke. And most of them are more like STJ than Duke in the types of players they attract and the types of players they sign. There are dozens of Ahmed's around the country and Owens' , etc.... Try coaching, it works.
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We play 7 kids with man to man defense for almost 40 minutes and people are shocked that we miss free throws at the end of games?
There was a reason I was negative for the first time since the Norm days this summer. How does anyone win with this roster? College basketball is a guards game. You need 4-5 minimum. We have maaaaaaybe two. I'm bullish on next season so long as we don't lose more than two kids and Ponds stays. We will have the #1 turnaround in the country and Mullin will be getting more good press than we've seen on 25 years.
I was livid last offseason. The 2017 recruiting class was a absolute failure and is a huge reason for our struggles. We gambled on the slimmest margin of error and it blew up in our faces-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4278403/hasahn-french
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277869/jose-alvarado
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4277967/isaiah-washington
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2018/jan/25/vols-freshmforward-derrick-walker-takes-advan/462069/
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66947/nura-zanna
As was I, and I got a ton of crap for my negativity. Dixon and Williams gives us 5 guys that can play 1-3. I'd like to see a dump it off type of PG to give this team some structure. I think there are
25 wins out there for next season with a few changes.
Take 20
18
You guys can take your 20 or 18. I only need 2 puffs of whatever Marillac is smoking to assure myself a good time.
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Xavier St Johns recap http://www.bigeastboards.com/
You say all our coaching hires since Lou were coaches on the come. I don't think Lavin (eight years on TV) or Mullin (never coached a day in his life and had to be coaxed by Lou) were coaches on the come. Rather I think you just like the phrase on the come. :D
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
. . . due to poor execution in crunch time. Work me up in a lather, rinse me with IPA and repeat next game. I don't doubt that there are some issues with players but they look like they have not been shown what to do in end game situations at all. Same mistakes every game. That's a preparation issue, either bad preparation or insufficient preparation. Both are coaching issues.
You know why you want see good coaches have problems with guys with low basketball IQ's?
They don't recruit them. You think if Ahmed played for Duke he would all of a sudden become Shane Battier?
Same thing in the pros. Why you won't see Michael Beasley(who I really like BTW) ever play on the Spurs.
To get talent at ST john's sometimes have to look the other way at certain things that better programs wouldn't.
There are dozens of teams in the well coached spectrum between STJ and Duke. And most of them are more like STJ than Duke in the types of players they attract and the types of players they sign. There are dozens of Ahmed's around the country and Owens' , etc.... Try coaching, it works.
Because no coach since Fran has come here with any idea on what they want to do recruiting wise. So instead they just try and get best athlete regardless of where he plays, what we already have or how he fits. Like if you go to a grocery store once a week forgot what you need find that either they are out of steak or steak is too expensive so you just keep buying Hot Dogs.
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We dont know how to finish games. These games are very close against top competition. Furthermore, we are a lot better than year 1 ,despite the same record. Goal tending, travelling, shot clock violation and missed free throws cost us the game, not Mullin. That said, we can use an experienced coach for the staff. Lets hope we dont loose any core players this year and can take a big step foward next year.
Experienced coaching doesn't solve these problems. Having players does. We lost to a number six team by a handful of points.
. . . due to poor execution in crunch time. Work me up in a lather, rinse me with IPA and repeat next game. I don't doubt that there are some issues with players but they look like they have not been shown what to do in end game situations at all. Same mistakes every game. That's a preparation issue, either bad preparation or insufficient preparation. Both are coaching issues.
You know why you want see good coaches have problems with guys with low basketball IQ's?
They don't recruit them. You think if Ahmed played for Duke he would all of a sudden become Shane Battier?
Same thing in the pros. Why you won't see Michael Beasley(who I really like BTW) ever play on the Spurs.
To get talent at ST john's sometimes have to look the other way at certain things that better programs wouldn't.
There are dozens of teams in the well coached spectrum between STJ and Duke. And most of them are more like STJ than Duke in the types of players they attract and the types of players they sign. There are dozens of Ahmed's around the country and Owens' , etc.... Try coaching, it works.
Because no coach since Fran has come here with any idea on what they want to do recruiting wise. So instead they just try and get best athlete regardless of where he plays, what we already have or how he fits. Like if you go to a grocery store once a week forgot what you need find that either they are out of steak or steak is too expensive so you just keep buying Hot Dogs.
Lavin sold NYC as the biggest of the big time. He knew that St.John’s University in Jamaica, NY would never equal big time anything to recruits. So instead he sold what he had and it worked. Coaching them is another story, but Lavin brought great talent here. He told kids from Texas, California, Michigan, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Illinois etc that they star in the biggest stage. Technically, that can’t be debated.
Instead of kissing every overrated local’s behind he recognized they were leaving town anyway. That’s a strategy that no coach had tried. Imagine if Dunlap stayed. What a team they would have made.
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Staff has kids from Louisiana Georgia and state of Washington coming in next year I think it’s the one the bigger selling points we have.
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In the last minutes of the game coming off timeouts they can't get off a shot. You still got the kid drawing up the plays. Sad
Funny thing is two of the players didn't know where they were supposed on the play. How is that? Mullin and St.Jean were yelling at them about where to go. Not the only time it happened. Seemed like every out of bounds play the players didn't know the plays.
Gotta bring in smarter players. All the basics should be known already coming into college. Give me a leas talented kid with something between his ears any day. Better in the long run
Agreed. Sometimes you can coach them al you want but they don't get it. I'm all for bringing in more basketball players as opposed to athletes.
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In the last minutes of the game coming off timeouts they can't get off a shot. You still got the kid drawing up the plays. Sad
Funny thing is two of the players didn't know where they were supposed on the play. How is that? Mullin and St.Jean were yelling at them about where to go. Not the only time it happened. Seemed like every out of bounds play the players didn't know the plays.
Gotta bring in smarter players. All the basics should be known already coming into college. Give me a leas talented kid with something between his ears any day. Better in the long run
Agreed. Sometimes you can coach them al you want but they don't get it. I'm all for bringing in more basketball players as opposed to athletes.
How many of us said that about Sean Evans, Justin Brownlee, Justin Burrell, Malik Boothe, Paris Horne and DJ Kennedy before a real coach with a real staff took over? Blaming the players is pretty low. We start 5 guys who play 2 positions. Who should take the blame for that? The amateurs? Come on.
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In the last minutes of the game coming off timeouts they can't get off a shot. You still got the kid drawing up the plays. Sad
Funny thing is two of the players didn't know where they were supposed on the play. How is that? Mullin and St.Jean were yelling at them about where to go. Not the only time it happened. Seemed like every out of bounds play the players didn't know the plays.
Gotta bring in smarter players. All the basics should be known already coming into college. Give me a leas talented kid with something between his ears any day. Better in the long run
Agreed. Sometimes you can coach them al you want but they don't get it. I'm all for bringing in more basketball players as opposed to athletes.
How many of us said that about Sean Evans, Justin Brownlee, Justin Burrell, Malik Boothe, Paris Horne and DJ Kennedy before a real coach with a real staff took over? Blaming the players is pretty low. We start 5 guys who play 2 positions. Who should take the blame for that? The amateurs? Come on.
Im not blaming the players, its true sometimes they don't get it. Have you ever cached anything? There is plenty of blame to go around. It doesn't just lie with the coaches like you seem to believe.