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Title: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: hnk on February 04, 2018, 11:54:37 AM
1. Trust the process

2. Never, never ever give up.

3. Pick and roll.  Go inside and then outside.   Tariq can be a weapon for easy buckets inside.

4. Shot selection matters.

5. MSG is the world's greatest arena and a recruiting magnet.

6. Currently, we have great character kids playing for us.

7. Waiting until next year may be worth the wait with some highlights along the road.

8.  You need more than six players to compete regularly.

Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Classof2013 on February 04, 2018, 12:08:06 PM
9. Shamorie Ponds has Big East Player of the Year potential.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: hnk on February 04, 2018, 12:10:27 PM
Next year for sure with a full squad to draw some attention.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 04, 2018, 12:10:38 PM
1. MSG was awesome. Plus our fans were great . Outnumbered by a lot but plenty loud.

2. Trust the process is non sense. Great game coach. One game doesn’t change the entire season. We play .500 the rest of the season. That will quiet some people.

3. This team has talent. We won yesterday. This wasn’t an incredible upset. Our good players played well. They played hard and smart. Coaches and players deserve credit. It’s nit bad luck when we lose certainly not good luck that we won. That was an earned victory.

4. Yakwe- I think we need to give him more minutes. Guys are going to need a break.

5. Still think coaches suck- hope I can be proven wrong. Only went yesterday because we didn’t sell our tickets. Was not going to go to any more games. Hopeful we play ok vs nova. Looking forward to Saturday’s game. I will be there
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: rdstr25 on February 04, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
Agreed, there is no “trust the process” especially in regards to getting better players. In the nba, teams lose to get a better chance of getting a player who can be a franchise player.  In college, more winning, means bringing in better players, or  at  least bringing in the right players who are good enough to make a difference.  Yesterday’s win did not further the process, unless it spring boards rest of season with wins.  The process only moves in right direction, if Brooks comes and staff is rebuilt. However, I’m ecstatic they won yesterday, especially since  I got to see it at the garden.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: ras on February 04, 2018, 12:33:41 PM
Agreed, there is no “trust the process” especially in regards to getting better players. In the nba, teams lose to get a better chance of getting a player who can be a franchise player.  In college, more winning, means bringing in better players, or  at  least bringing in the right players who are good enough to make a difference.  Yesterday’s win did not further the process, unless it spring boards rest of season with wins.  The process only moves in right direction, if Brooks comes and staff is rebuilt. However, I’m ecstatic they won yesterday, especially since  I got to see it at the garden.
I agree in regards to ,we have to build upon our win. Tough next game. Still think we have the talent to have a descent rest of year. But if  only win 1 BE game, this win becomes useless. I also think the team is learning how to play wo Lovett.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Marco Baldi on February 04, 2018, 12:43:31 PM
Yesterday's win was tremendous for the program, for morale, for recruiting, for possible transfers(both coming and going), for the staff, for the students, for the fans, for the Big East and for NYC. If you can't see that, maybe you should go talk anal with we are sju

Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Poison on February 04, 2018, 12:44:57 PM
2 Duke fans sitting behind me were convinced that Grayson Allen is a lottery pick. I wouldn’t take that scrub in the NBDL lottery.

So, by comparison maybe some of the fans here aren’t so nuts?
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjdinkins on February 04, 2018, 12:56:37 PM
Yesterday's win was tremendous for the program, for morale, for recruiting, for possible transfers(both coming and going), for the staff, for the students, for the fans, for the Big East and for NYC. If you can't see that, maybe you should go talk anal with we are sju

Haha!  I'm laughing at your latter quote.

The other stuff you said remains to be seen.  We won't know till the end of the season how much yesterday's win helped morale and until we see where our recruiting goes from here.

Otherwise, it was a great win for the players, staff, school and fans.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: section3 on February 04, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Yesterday's win was tremendous for the program, for morale, for recruiting, for possible transfers(both coming and going), for the staff, for the students, for the fans, for the Big East and for NYC. If you can't see that, maybe you should go talk anal with we are sju


Amen
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: ras on February 04, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
Yesterday's win was tremendous for the program, for morale, for recruiting, for possible transfers(both coming and going), for the staff, for the students, for the fans, for the Big East and for NYC. If you can't see that, maybe you should go talk anal with we are sju


Yesterday's win was tremendous for the program, for morale, for recruiting, for possible transfers(both coming and going), for the staff, for the students, for the fans, for the Big East and for NYC. If you can't see that, maybe you should go talk anal with we are sju


A much needed win. Helps negate this bad season. But in and off itself it won’t do much. Unless the confidence boost helps us close out the season w wins, which I think we can do. OTOH, a repeat of Jan., which I don’t think will happen, will make this W an afterthought. It’s not time to bring out the Champaign, as good as yesterday was.  Just being realistic. But, hoping for the best. The recruits at the game did witness an awesome experience, but it is only 1 game.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: redslope on February 04, 2018, 01:50:30 PM
2 Duke fans sitting behind me were convinced that Grayson Allen is a lottery pick. I wouldn’t take that scrub in the NBDL lottery.

So, by comparison maybe some of the fans here aren’t so nuts?

LOL--how drunk were they??

Loved the game and saw a lot of blue in my section--too many folks sold out on the Redmen.  We were loving it and totally spent/hoarse/elated at end of game.  Was extremely happy for the kids--they have never quit--that is what I take out of this.  Now let's get a few more wins
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: SJUFAN on February 04, 2018, 03:40:05 PM
Players need to execute, period. Duke is a terrible man v man team, and we gave them a heavy dose of pick and rolls. Coach rat face refuses to play zone. They tried and in two possessions, Ahmed hit a wide open corner three and Clark made a wide open jumper from the elbow. He went back to man v man. It's not his system, probably doesn't waste practice time on it. So was coach K out coached? or did our players execute? 
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: survivedc on February 04, 2018, 03:44:17 PM
1. MSG was awesome. Plus our fans were great . Outnumbered by a lot but plenty loud.

2. Trust the process is non sense. Great game coach. One game doesn’t change the entire season. We play .500 the rest of the season. That will quiet some people.

3. This team has talent. We won yesterday. This wasn’t an incredible upset. Our good players played well. They played hard and smart. Coaches and players deserve credit. It’s nit bad luck when we lose certainly not good luck that we won. That was an earned victory.

4. Yakwe- I think we need to give him more minutes. Guys are going to need a break.

5. Still think coaches suck- hope I can be proven wrong. Only went yesterday because we didn’t sell our tickets. Was not going to go to any more games. Hopeful we play ok vs nova. Looking forward to Saturday’s game. I will be there

How could you say it wasn't an incredible upset? St John's lost 11 straight, Duke was #4 in the country with 2 lottery picks and 2 more potential first rounders. No need to downplay a very good win and the biggest upset we've had in 7 years.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Foad on February 04, 2018, 04:19:03 PM
1. Do not take joy in anything, even in St john's beating Dook at MSG on national television.

2. If you see someone else taking joy in something, remind them how bad things are and point out how much worse they might become. For example, if you see an excited and happy fan leaviing MSG after St John's beats dwek on national television, remind him that there were no basketball teams in Treblinka and that even if there were the SS would be prohibitive favorites, since most prisoners weighed less than Tariq Owens.

3. Pegging is gay. However, having a prostate exam is not, unless you pay extra for it. On a related note Marco Baldi is a closeted St John's fan.

4. Other than the MAAC, the BE is the best conference in college basketball.

5, When St John's looses [sic] it's because Chris Mullin is garbage. When St John's wins, it's despite that.

6. Mike Schrwshrenki is a bad winner and a sore loser.

7. Lots of jive ass, turkeys, who are tough guys, when they're hiding behind, their computers, wouldn't dare say that to a posters, face, would you, you punks.

8. If Tonyd3 tells you he's going to meet you for drinks by the men's room, he isn't. So bring your own flask.

9. Marvin Bagley is soft. Wendell Carter is not.

10. Howard Garfinkel is still dead.

11. WASJU still cannot hit the curve ball.

12. A photo of a naked woman being crucified generates less web traffic than one of Kelly Cuoco in a teddy.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 04, 2018, 04:58:03 PM
1. MSG was awesome. Plus our fans were great . Outnumbered by a lot but plenty loud.

2. Trust the process is non sense. Great game coach. One game doesn’t change the entire season. We play .500 the rest of the season. That will quiet some people.

3. This team has talent. We won yesterday. This wasn’t an incredible upset. Our good players played well. They played hard and smart. Coaches and players deserve credit. It’s nit bad luck when we lose certainly not good luck that we won. That was an earned victory.

4. Yakwe- I think we need to give him more minutes. Guys are going to need a break.

5. Still think coaches suck- hope I can be proven wrong. Only went yesterday because we didn’t sell our tickets. Was not going to go to any more games. Hopeful we play ok vs nova. Looking forward to Saturday’s game. I will be there

How could you say it wasn't an incredible upset? St John's lost 11 straight, Duke was #4 in the country with 2 lottery picks and 2 more potential first rounders. No need to downplay a very good win and the biggest upset we've had in 7 years.

This isn’t the miracle on ice. Our players played well. All of them. Ponds was the best player on the court. Ahmed and Owens played great. They played hard they played smart. Our role players didn’t play much but they didn’t lose us this game. Remember when Amar missed those 3 pointers? No because that didn’t happen. How many bad shots did we take yesterday? Not that many
Did we get killed on the boards? No! Did we play defense? Yes
That isn’t magic. The team played well. They deserve respect and congratulations. Was it an upset ? Of course . But our players have talent. They weren’t lucky. They kicked duke’s ass.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: hnk on February 04, 2018, 05:02:27 PM
In fairness, we did take a few bad shots yesterday....(though not as many as usual) NBA threes etc., but a bunch of them went in.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Foad on February 04, 2018, 05:27:55 PM
This isn’t the miracle on ice. Our players played well. All of them. Ponds was the best player on the court. Ahmed and Owens played great. They played hard they played smart. Our role players didn’t play much but they didn’t lose us this game. Remember when Amar missed those 3 pointers? No because that didn’t happen. How many bad shots did we take yesterday? Not that many
Did we get killed on the boards? No! Did we play defense? Yes
That isn’t magic. The team played well. They deserve respect and congratulations. Was it an upset ? Of course . But our players have talent. They weren’t lucky. They kicked duke’s ass.

I agree with you somewhat in theory. That is, that St John's was not lucky: they deserved to win because they outplayed dook - and but for the FT differential and odd officiating the score might have have been quite different, because dook got the benefit of a bunch of dubious calls. (As an odd happenstance I saw the miracle on ice in person and those guys weren't "lucky" either.) But the thing is, had they lost yesterday all the doom sayers would have been out in force positing the loss as further proof that Mullin stinks and the staff stinks and the players stink and all of it that we've heard ad nauseum for a month. Maybe Mullin does stink and Richmond need to be fired and maybe St Jean is a clown. Or maybe some other things are in play. What's passing strange is how emotionally invested some fans - not you particularly, although "This wasn’t an incredible upset" is an odd take - are in their narrative being correct, as opposed to being happy when the team they allegedly root for wins a game that they were sure they were going to lose, quite emphatically.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 04, 2018, 06:30:26 PM
This isn’t the miracle on ice. Our players played well. All of them. Ponds was the best player on the court. Ahmed and Owens played great. They played hard they played smart. Our role players didn’t play much but they didn’t lose us this game. Remember when Amar missed those 3 pointers? No because that didn’t happen. How many bad shots did we take yesterday? Not that many
Did we get killed on the boards? No! Did we play defense? Yes
That isn’t magic. The team played well. They deserve respect and congratulations. Was it an upset ? Of course . But our players have talent. They weren’t lucky. They kicked duke’s ass.

I agree with you somewhat in theory. That is, that St John's was not lucky: they deserved to win because they outplayed dook - and but for the FT differential and odd officiating the score might have have been quite different, because dook got the benefit of a bunch of dubious calls. (As an odd happenstance I saw the miracle on ice in person and those guys weren't "lucky" either.) But the thing is, had they lost yesterday all the doom sayers would have been out in force positing the loss as further proof that Mullin stinks and the staff stinks and the players stink and all of it that we've heard ad nauseum for a month. Maybe Mullin does stink and Richmond need to be fired and maybe St Jean is a clown. Or maybe some other things are in play. What's passing strange is how emotionally invested some fans - not you particularly, although "This wasn’t an incredible upset" is an odd take - are in their narrative being correct, as opposed to being happy when the team they allegedly root for wins a game that they were sure they were going to lose, quite emphatically.
Foady- u need to earn free throws. Not always the referee. We need to be more aggressive and we were as the game went on. The team played well and coached well. Plenty of mistakes, I admit I was looking for them. Coach k and staff made mistakes also.

Man tits (don’t ever want to say his name again) might still be here if he won more instead of losing close. We played well down the stretch. If we came out of a time out and turned the ball over and losted . I may have changed the bench I was close enough.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Foad on February 04, 2018, 08:19:37 PM
Foady- u need to earn free throws. Not always the referee.

Yah, dook never gets the benefit of the doubt. They made more FT's than SJ attempted. Ponds took 23 shots, 15 in traffic and moving toward the basket: he shot 7 FTs. Simon took 11 shots, shot 2 FTs. Carter took six shots, shot eight FTs. Allen took 7 shots, shot six FTs. Come on now.

Idle question: what do you have to do to earn a goal tending?
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 04, 2018, 08:48:05 PM
Foady- u need to earn free throws. Not always the referee.

Yah, dook never gets the benefit of the doubt. They made more FT's than SJ attempted. Ponds took 23 shots, 15 in traffic and moving toward the basket: he shot 7 FTs. Simon took 11 shots, shot 2 FTs. Carter took six shots, shot eight FTs. Allen took 7 shots, shot six FTs. Come on now.

Idle question: what do you have to do to earn a goal tending?
Hate duke . Watched the 99 game on YouTube last year. Still mad about the calls. Like 4 of our players fouled out that day. We earned no fouls vs nova last year. Almost happened again this year.
Agree with the goal tending. Plenty of benefits to playing duke . Calls are going to be even worse at Cameron next year.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Poison on February 04, 2018, 10:50:43 PM
2 Duke fans sitting behind me were convinced that Grayson Allen is a lottery pick. I wouldn’t take that scrub in the NBDL lottery.

So, by comparison maybe some of the fans here aren’t so nuts?

LOL--how drunk were they??


These were college-aged kids from Great Neck. They, like every Duke fan I’ve ever met don’t understand what they are looking at.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjmaherjr on February 04, 2018, 10:59:21 PM
1. MSG was awesome. Plus our fans were great . Outnumbered by a lot but plenty loud.

2. Trust the process is non sense. Great game coach. One game doesn’t change the entire season. We play .500 the rest of the season. That will quiet some people.

3. This team has talent. We won yesterday. This wasn’t an incredible upset. Our good players played well. They played hard and smart. Coaches and players deserve credit. It’s nit bad luck when we lose certainly not good luck that we won. That was an earned victory.

4. Yakwe- I think we need to give him more minutes. Guys are going to need a break.

5. Still think coaches suck- hope I can be proven wrong. Only went yesterday because we didn’t sell our tickets. Was not going to go to any more games. Hopeful we play ok vs nova. Looking forward to Saturday’s game. I will be there
when we haven't won 1 conference game or won a game since last year and you play Duke if this wasn't an incredible upset I dont know what is

This was one of the best and most satisfying games for SJU I've ever been to. Top 3 for sure. I literally thought we had no chance of winning
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: carmineabbatiello on February 05, 2018, 02:53:57 AM
We had em talkin.  Heard about this game unsolicited from 5 unlikely sources. And I'm a loner.

Really wish I went to this one.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: pmg911 on February 05, 2018, 08:43:11 AM
I think the biggest thing this shows is that we are much better then 0 - 10 in conference play....

Season was done as soon as Lovett went down, the team could never afford to lose 14.9PPG
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: fordham96 on February 05, 2018, 09:13:29 AM
SJU SOS rank is #5 in the country.  And they have the #2 RPI team this week Villanova.

In fact in a week span they will play (current rankings) the #3 RPI team (Xavier), the #8 team (Duke) and the #2 team (Nova).

And ironically Duke's RPI dropped several spots BECAUSE THEY LOST to SJU...or else their ranking would be higher.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: cjfish on February 05, 2018, 10:14:53 AM
You are what your record says you are....Parcells.  However, this team is very capable when they play decently for a full 40 as they did in this game.  Great performance.  Amazing what you can do if you avoid poorly played long stretches.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 11:31:23 AM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjdinkins on February 05, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

You're the stupidest and can't comprehend jack.  Congrats! 
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 01:04:11 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

You're the stupidest and can't comprehend jack.  Congrats! 

As usual your contribution to the board is useless. You can't even insult people in a comprehensive manner.
If not for Tony you would be worst poster on either board. Keep trying though you are closing the gap.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjdinkins on February 05, 2018, 01:07:00 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

You're the stupidest and can't comprehend jack.  Congrats! 

As usual your contribution to the board is useless. You can't even insult people in a comprehensive manner.
If not for Tony you would be worst poster on either board. Keep trying though you are closing the gap.

You don't ever contribute anything other than corny ass jokes and a heap of fallacies.  I wouldn't expect you to understand anything.
  Stupid ass.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: redmen4life on February 05, 2018, 01:10:14 PM
Biggest lesson is to be under control in crunch time. I was impressed that we worked the clock. Didn’t take any wild shots and drove to the hoop
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 01:29:36 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

You're the stupidest and can't comprehend jack.  Congrats! 

As usual your contribution to the board is useless. You can't even insult people in a comprehensive manner.
If not for Tony you would be worst poster on either board. Keep trying though you are closing the gap.

You don't ever contribute anything other than corny ass jokes and a heap of fallacies.  I wouldn't expect you to understand anything.
  Stupid ass.

You know if you really think everyone that thinks you are an idiot is a "Stupid ass", I am pretty sure you are surrounded by "Stupid asses" all day long.
As far as my jokes, I will try to dumb them down for you so you can follow along. Maybe throw in some knock knock  and fart jokes for you.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjdinkins on February 05, 2018, 01:36:36 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

You're the stupidest and can't comprehend jack.  Congrats! 

As usual your contribution to the board is useless. You can't even insult people in a comprehensive manner.
If not for Tony you would be worst poster on either board. Keep trying though you are closing the gap.

You don't ever contribute anything other than corny ass jokes and a heap of fallacies.  I wouldn't expect you to understand anything.
  Stupid ass.

You know if you really think everyone that thinks you are an idiot is a "Stupid ass", I am pretty sure you are surrounded by "Stupid asses" all day long.
As far as my jokes, I will try to dumb them down for you so you can follow along. Maybe throw in some knock knock  and fart jokes for you.

I don't care what a few insignificant people think of me because they can't handle my personality.  Those are the ones who don't matter to me.  Kinda like you.  Speaking of stupidity, I'm "surrounded" by your ditzy ass daily on here.  Thanks for admitting your stupidity. 

Nah, no reason to dumb 'em down.  They're just unfunny.  Thanks anyway. 

I don't wanna take up too much of the forum time with this.  If you have anything personal or beef with me, then you're (and, any others you claim who think I'm an "idiot") welcome to say it to me personally. 
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 01:41:58 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

You're the stupidest and can't comprehend jack.  Congrats! 

As usual your contribution to the board is useless. You can't even insult people in a comprehensive manner.
If not for Tony you would be worst poster on either board. Keep trying though you are closing the gap.

You don't ever contribute anything other than corny ass jokes and a heap of fallacies.  I wouldn't expect you to understand anything.
  Stupid ass.

You know if you really think everyone that thinks you are an idiot is a "Stupid ass", I am pretty sure you are surrounded by "Stupid asses" all day long.
As far as my jokes, I will try to dumb them down for you so you can follow along. Maybe throw in some knock knock  and fart jokes for you.

I don't care what a few insignificant people think of me because they can't handle my personality.  Those are the ones who don't matter to me.  Kinda like you.  Speaking of stupidity, I'm "surrounded" by your ditzy ass daily on here.  Thanks for admitting your stupidity. 

Nah, no reason to dumb 'em down.  They're just unfunny.  Thanks anyway. 

I don't wanna take up too much of the forum time with this.  If you have anything personal or beef with me, then you're (and, any others you claim who think I'm an "idiot") welcome to say it to me personally. 

Ok I will send you a picture of my mailbox and we can meet there.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Ez_Uzi on February 05, 2018, 01:50:15 PM
1. Do not take joy in anything, even in St john's beating Dook at MSG on national television.

2. If you see someone else taking joy in something, remind them how bad things are and point out how much worse they might become. For example, if you see an excited and happy fan leaviing MSG after St John's beats dwek on national television, remind him that there were no basketball teams in Treblinka and that even if there were the SS would be prohibitive favorites, since most prisoners weighed less than Tariq Owens.

3. Pegging is gay. However, having a prostate exam is not, unless you pay extra for it. On a related note Marco Baldi is a closeted St John's fan.

4. Other than the MAAC, the BE is the best conference in college basketball.

5, When St John's looses [sic] it's because Chris Mullin is garbage. When St John's wins, it's despite that.

6. Mike Schrwshrenki is a bad winner and a sore loser.

7. Lots of jive ass, turkeys, who are tough guys, when they're hiding behind, their computers, wouldn't dare say that to a posters, face, would you, you punks.

8. If Tonyd3 tells you he's going to meet you for drinks by the men's room, he isn't. So bring your own flask.

9. Marvin Bagley is soft. Wendell Carter is not.

10. Howard Garfinkel is still dead.

11. WASJU still cannot hit the curve ball.

12. A photo of a naked woman being crucified generates less web traffic than one of Kelly Cuoco in a teddy.

Number 7 sounds awfully like Huggy Bear of the famed Starsky and Hutch ... do i win a prize?
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 01:55:03 PM
1. Do not take joy in anything, even in St john's beating Dook at MSG on national television.

2. If you see someone else taking joy in something, remind them how bad things are and point out how much worse they might become. For example, if you see an excited and happy fan leaviing MSG after St John's beats dwek on national television, remind him that there were no basketball teams in Treblinka and that even if there were the SS would be prohibitive favorites, since most prisoners weighed less than Tariq Owens.

3. Pegging is gay. However, having a prostate exam is not, unless you pay extra for it. On a related note Marco Baldi is a closeted St John's fan.

4. Other than the MAAC, the BE is the best conference in college basketball.

5, When St John's looses [sic] it's because Chris Mullin is garbage. When St John's wins, it's despite that.

6. Mike Schrwshrenki is a bad winner and a sore loser.

7. Lots of jive ass, turkeys, who are tough guys, when they're hiding behind, their computers, wouldn't dare say that to a posters, face, would you, you punks.

8. If Tonyd3 tells you he's going to meet you for drinks by the men's room, he isn't. So bring your own flask.

9. Marvin Bagley is soft. Wendell Carter is not.

10. Howard Garfinkel is still dead.

11. WASJU still cannot hit the curve ball.

12. A photo of a naked woman being crucified generates less web traffic than one of Kelly Cuoco in a teddy.


11. Threw them for strikes more in College that is for sure.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Ez_Uzi on February 05, 2018, 02:07:30 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

Even before going that far to 4-3 ... and I obviously recognize this is a facetious hypothetical ... what if St John's miraculously beats # 1 Nova in Nova ... For me, I couldn't care what else happened the rest of the year ... but such a miracle may be the ultimate conundrum for NIT selectors ... me thinks ...
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: johnniesfilmmaker on February 05, 2018, 02:16:31 PM
In the 2016-17 NIT, these three teams made the tournament

Indiana: 18-16 (7-11)
Clemson: 17-16 (6-12)
Colorado: 19-15 (8-12)

If we can beat Marquette twice, DePaul, Seton Hall, and Butler (Vengeance game for Ponds) we'll be 5-13 in the conference and 16-15 overall. All of those teams won a game in the conference tournaments. If we can win two, we'll be 18-15 and 7-13 in the conference. IU's SOS was 8.15 and was 51st out of 351. Our SOS is currently 9.84 and is the 5th strongest in the country according to sports-reference.com and CBS sports behind Vanderbilt, Kansas, Temple, and North Carolina.

If we finish 5-2 and win two games in the Big East Tournament, we can still make the NIT and if all things break right, we could finish in 7th. Hopefully this Duke game did a lot, and what we all hope, for this team because there's no reason they can't finish 5-2, beat Georgetown in Round 1 of Big East Tourney and try to upset Villanova. Would be amazing to watch Marquette fall apart and get us to 7th where we can beat DePaul in Round 1 then try to upset Xavier who we've played very tough losing by 6 and 5. Could even draw Seton Hall if we pulled that off and how sweet would it be to upset Seton Hall to go to the Big East Finals. I'm dreaming on that, I know.

But finish 5-2, win a game in the Big East tournament and the NIT is a possibility, win two games and we should be there. The Big East might get 7 teams into the NCAA Tournament and another into the NIT for 80% playing in a major postseason tournament.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

Even before going that far to 4-3 ... and I obviously recognize this is a facetious hypothetical ... what if St John's miraculously beats # 1 Nova in Nova ... For me, I couldn't care what else happened the rest of the year ... but such a miracle may be the ultimate conundrum for NIT selectors ... me thinks ...

We were due for some breaks and we caught them.  Finally hit SOME free throws down the stretch. Didn't get totally screwed by refs against Duke on a neutral court. Missed goaltending call notwithstanding. And for first time since Lovett thing got someone to play Robin to Ponds Batman. Two of them actually.  I don't think that carries over to Nova but would like to see them maybe we 2 or 3 of others. Would have them on right track for next year.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Celtics11 on February 05, 2018, 03:12:44 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 03:35:54 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Celtics11 on February 05, 2018, 03:41:56 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Ez_Uzi on February 05, 2018, 03:42:35 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

Even before going that far to 4-3 ... and I obviously recognize this is a facetious hypothetical ... what if St John's miraculously beats # 1 Nova in Nova ... For me, I couldn't care what else happened the rest of the year ... but such a miracle may be the ultimate conundrum for NIT selectors ... me thinks ...

We were due for some breaks and we caught them.  Finally hit SOME free throws down the stretch. Didn't get totally screwed by refs against Duke on a neutral court. Missed goaltending call notwithstanding. And for first time since Lovett thing got someone to play Robin to Ponds Batman. Two of them actually.  I don't think that carries over to Nova but would like to see them maybe we 2 or 3 of others. Would have them on right track for next year.

True for next year, and having seen the roster molded over the last 3 years only suggests that we are on the right track despite the protestations of the detractors (see below). But a NIT bid somehow, someway this year ... would be a reprieve to cherish ...

Sedee Keita
Shamorie Ponds
Mikey Dixon
Justin Simon
Tariq Owens
Bryan Trimble Jr.
Marvin Clark II
Kassoum Yakwe
Marcus LoVett
Boubacar Diakite
J’Raan Brooks
Greg Williams
Josh Roberts
 
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 03:52:28 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 05, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
I know it is silly to engage you. But can I have a pass?
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Foad on February 05, 2018, 04:02:03 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Foad on February 05, 2018, 04:03:51 PM
Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.

I hate to admit it but Tony's growing on me. It might just be the promise of free booze but his unremitting bile reminds me of a young me, albeit with a head injury.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 04:13:50 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
I know it is silly to engage you. But can I have a pass?

I gave Celtic a pass because he played the Dad card with me. Soft spot for me.
You would have to play young card. My 9 year old quits every board game, video game and one on one game he plays when he gets behind. I once watched him and his cousin take an hour to play a game of basketball to 11 because both kept wanting start over when they fell behind by more than a point.   
Stop with quitting stuff and you move way down list of annoying posters in my eyes. Just a thought but just come up with some different ways to say Mullins sucks. Originality is always appreciated.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Celtics11 on February 05, 2018, 04:23:53 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
Didn't mean other poster was rubbing in the win was referring to fact he was bringing up our criticisms on day of big victory. Same things you say about you and Ponds is same for me with Mullin. I saw him play in person for my team and be the best ever so of course I want him to succeed and have nothing personal against him (why and how could I, never met him) but the other side always labels critics as haters, it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Celtics11 on February 05, 2018, 04:30:14 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.
Hey I'll more than settle for being the David Caruso of posters. Loved him first season of NYPD Blue and thought show couldn't survive without him (obviously wrong about that and I continued to enjoy the show and Andy Sipowitz). Caruso rebounded nicely on CSI Miami although must admit I could do without his constant head cocking (requesting in advance leaving wording of last comment alone as we have had quite enough of sexual references on what is supposed to be basketball discussions).
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 05, 2018, 04:40:26 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
Didn't mean other poster was rubbing in the win was referring to fact he was bringing up our criticisms on day of big victory. Same things you say about you and Ponds is same for me with Mullin. I saw him play in person for my team and be the best ever so of course I want him to succeed and have nothing personal against him (why and how could I, never met him) but the other side always labels critics as haters, it's ridiculous.

Fair enough.

On another note, I would like to take a moment to give props to one of only two decent Duke fans in the world. The first is  our very own Tha Kid, the 2nd is the guy I work with. He went to Duke and when I came in this morning with my ST John's hat on he just laughed. He didn't once give the snarky enjoy selection Sunday comeback or remind me that when we last went to the final Four he was 2.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjdinkins on February 05, 2018, 04:47:17 PM
Didn't mean other poster was rubbing in the win was referring to fact he was bringing up our criticisms on day of big victory. Same things you say about you and Ponds is same for me with Mullin. I saw him play in person for my team and be the best ever so of course I want him to succeed and have nothing personal against him (why and how could I, never met him) but the other side always labels critics as haters, it's ridiculous.

+1
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Foad on February 05, 2018, 05:24:54 PM
Hey I'll more than settle for being the David Caruso of posters. Loved him first season of NYPD Blue and thought show couldn't survive without him (obviously wrong about that and I continued to enjoy the show and Andy Sipowitz). Caruso rebounded nicely on CSI Miami although must admit I could do without his constant head cocking (requesting in advance leaving wording of last comment alone as we have had quite enough of sexual references on what is supposed to be basketball discussions).

Dennis Franz > everyone

* David Caruso> Ricky Schroder > Bobby Simone> Saved By the Bell

* Gail O'Grady>  Andrea Thompson > Jacqueline Obradors > Kim Delaney > Garcelle Beauvais > Charlotte Ross > Amy Brenneman > Sharon Lawrence

* Esai Morales > Henry Simmons > James McDaniel > Michael DeLuise> Nicholas Turturro > Gordon Clapp
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 05, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
I know it is silly to engage you. But can I have a pass?

I gave Celtic a pass because he played the Dad card with me. Soft spot for me.
You would have to play young card. My 9 year old quits every board game, video game and one on one game he plays when he gets behind. I once watched him and his cousin take an hour to play a game of basketball to 11 because both kept wanting start over when they fell behind by more than a point.   
Stop with quitting stuff and you move way down list of annoying posters in my eyes. Just a thought but just come up with some different ways to say Mullins sucks. Originality is always appreciated.

Most of my posts either come from the LIRR or the toilet. Nothing that happens there  should really bother someone else (unless they need the bathroom). Maybe you should calm down. Our coach was hired to do a job, he is payed very well. Either he does it well which would be great. Or he should be replaced. I believe he should not collect his entire contract if he doesn’t earn it.
That means:hiring a competent big east caliber staff.  Being a major part of the recruiting effort. Maintaining a roster. And preparing our team to compete. I don’t believe in passes. I don’t believe he has done a good job over the past 2.5 years. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I hope he does better down the stretch (duke was a great start) or QUITS and takes no more. Obey from us.

We just beat duke. No one was negative. Still it’s one game. Season not over. Earn your paycheck coach. Just like everyone else in the world.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: survivedc on February 05, 2018, 05:50:52 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.

Nic Cage is an enigma to me. He seems to have some of the same over acting tendencies as Leo, turns in memorable performances  in Raising Arizona, Adaptation and Matchstick Men broken up by the shameful showings in Wickerman, Ghost Rider and the like. I've heard something about him having gambling issues which would the questionable decisions for scripts he's attached himself to.

As an aside, as many know, Nic Cage is the Nephew of Francis Ford Coppola who for the most part grew up in Queens and spent some time at Jamaica Highschool, (some 30 years after Paul Bowles passed through there) just a few blocks from campus, which I believe was shut down a few years ago.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on February 05, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.

Nic Cage is an enigma to me. He seems to have some of the same over acting tendencies as Leo, turns in memorable performances  in Raising Arizona, Adaptation and Matchstick Men broken up by the shameful showings in Wickerman, Ghost Rider and the like. I've heard something about him having gambling issues which would the questionable decisions for scripts he's attached himself to.

As an aside, as many know, Nic Cage is the Nephew of Francis Ford Coppola who for the most part grew up in Queens and spent some time at Jamaica Highschool, (some 30 years after Paul Bowles passed through there) just a few blocks from campus, which I believe was shut down a few years ago.

Dont know about you guys but I watch Con Air every time it’s on tv. Which is about twice a week.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjmaherjr on February 05, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.
saw Nic cage a while ago cheating on his wife at chateau marmont he is a tool and actually not that big and the asian girl he was hooking up with wasn't the good looking. This was the time SJU played at UCLA during Lavin
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Celtics11 on February 05, 2018, 09:56:03 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.

Nic Cage is an enigma to me. He seems to have some of the same over acting tendencies as Leo, turns in memorable performances  in Raising Arizona, Adaptation and Matchstick Men broken up by the shameful showings in Wickerman, Ghost Rider and the like. I've heard something about him having gambling issues which would the questionable decisions for scripts he's attached himself to.

As an aside, as many know, Nic Cage is the Nephew of Francis Ford Coppola who for the most part grew up in Queens and spent some time at Jamaica Highschool, (some 30 years after Paul Bowles passed through there) just a few blocks from campus, which I believe was shut down a few years ago.

Dont know about you guys but I watch Con Air every time it’s on tv. Which is about twice a week.
Funny you should mention that movie as a was present in LA at the directors pre-release showing of the movie and he spoke afterwards. Sorry to say memory doesn't serve very many other details.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjmaherjr on February 05, 2018, 09:57:57 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.
saw Nic cage a while ago cheating on his wife at chateau marmont he is a tool and actually not that big and the asian girl he was hooking up with wasn't the good looking. This was the time SJU played at UCLA during Lavin

BTW this same trip I rented some cheap car for like 40 a day and we went to some exclusive equinox in century city because Nathalie got us passes there for the day because a lot of famous people supposedly go there so we wanted to see stars and I pull up and my car was so cheap the #$%^ign valet parkers wouldn't take my tip money and the guy said " no thats ok you need it more than me " LOL True #$%^ing story
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjmaherjr on February 05, 2018, 10:03:24 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
I know it is silly to engage you. But can I have a pass?

I gave Celtic a pass because he played the Dad card with me. Soft spot for me.
You would have to play young card. My 9 year old quits every board game, video game and one on one game he plays when he gets behind. I once watched him and his cousin take an hour to play a game of basketball to 11 because both kept wanting start over when they fell behind by more than a point.   
Stop with quitting stuff and you move way down list of annoying posters in my eyes. Just a thought but just come up with some different ways to say Mullins sucks. Originality is always appreciated.

Most of my posts either come from the LIRR or the toilet. Nothing that happens there  should really bother someone else (unless they need the bathroom). Maybe you should calm down. Our coach was hired to do a job, he is payed very well. Either he does it well which would be great. Or he should be replaced. I believe he should not collect his entire contract if he doesn’t earn it.
That means:hiring a competent big east caliber staff.  Being a major part of the recruiting effort. Maintaining a roster. And preparing our team to compete. I don’t believe in passes. I don’t believe he has done a good job over the past 2.5 years. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I hope he does better down the stretch (duke was a great start) or QUITS and takes no more. Obey from us.

We just beat duke. No one was negative. Still it’s one game. Season not over. Earn your paycheck coach. Just like everyone else in the world.
I'm disturbed that you would sit on an LIRR toilet
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: mjdinkins on February 05, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

In your defense you are a little older so you have earned right to be impatient. And a little secret I am only half serious half the time. Don't tell Tony he thinks I want Dick Vitale or a porn star to be our next coach when really it should be Walter Berry.
I just thought that you guys could have taken a day with complaining after Duke win. Even I knew to do that during Norm years.

Don't recall being at all critical after Duke unless you mean countering a poster who tried to rub it in to anyone who has been critical. Knew you had to be kidding when you said we were worse than Realfan.

I will give YOU a pass. The other two are in the Realfan area code though.
But regarding you, how can someone possibly rub it in when when we won?
I do think the other two would have rather we lost to continue their narrative / agenda.
Think of it this way. I do not think Ponds is a good outside shooter. That does not mean I do not like Ponds. I like Ponds a lot. He shot great against Duke. Marillac and Mase have gone back to crazy town with him but I am not going argue because he shot well and I am glad he did. I hope Ponds proves me wrong every game.
I know it is silly to engage you. But can I have a pass?

I gave Celtic a pass because he played the Dad card with me. Soft spot for me.
You would have to play young card. My 9 year old quits every board game, video game and one on one game he plays when he gets behind. I once watched him and his cousin take an hour to play a game of basketball to 11 because both kept wanting start over when they fell behind by more than a point.   
Stop with quitting stuff and you move way down list of annoying posters in my eyes. Just a thought but just come up with some different ways to say Mullins sucks. Originality is always appreciated.

Most of my posts either come from the LIRR or the toilet. Nothing that happens there  should really bother someone else (unless they need the bathroom). Maybe you should calm down. Our coach was hired to do a job, he is payed very well. Either he does it well which would be great. Or he should be replaced. I believe he should not collect his entire contract if he doesn’t earn it.
That means:hiring a competent big east caliber staff.  Being a major part of the recruiting effort. Maintaining a roster. And preparing our team to compete. I don’t believe in passes. I don’t believe he has done a good job over the past 2.5 years. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I hope he does better down the stretch (duke was a great start) or QUITS and takes no more. Obey from us.

We just beat duke. No one was negative. Still it’s one game. Season not over. Earn your paycheck coach. Just like everyone else in the world.
I'm disturbed that you would sit on an LIRR toilet

Haha!  I don't think that's what he meant, maherjr.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on February 05, 2018, 10:39:55 PM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.

Nic Cage is an enigma to me. He seems to have some of the same over acting tendencies as Leo, turns in memorable performances  in Raising Arizona, Adaptation and Matchstick Men broken up by the shameful showings in Wickerman, Ghost Rider and the like. I've heard something about him having gambling issues which would the questionable decisions for scripts he's attached himself to.

As an aside, as many know, Nic Cage is the Nephew of Francis Ford Coppola who for the most part grew up in Queens and spent some time at Jamaica Highschool, (some 30 years after Paul Bowles passed through there) just a few blocks from campus, which I believe was shut down a few years ago.

Dont know about you guys but I watch Con Air every time it’s on tv. Which is about twice a week.
Funny you should mention that movie as a was present in LA at the directors pre-release showing of the movie and he spoke afterwards. Sorry to say memory doesn't serve very many other details.

That’s awesome! Cage might have been a little over the top (ok a lot over the top) and his accent a little crazy but that cast was freaking great. “Why couldn’t you just put the bunny back in the box?”
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Poison on February 05, 2018, 10:40:10 PM
If we can somehow go 4-3 the rest of the way going into BET we finish 15-16 4-14. BE record obviously disappointing but I predicted 18 wins which was around what most people thought. Considering Lovett thing 15 wins is not that far off where we would have liked to have been.

As far as takeaways, win only verified that Tony, Dinkins and Celtics are the worst "fans" in ST john's history.  Pretty big accomplishment beating out Baldi, Realfan and hard charging Poison.

Even before going that far to 4-3 ... and I obviously recognize this is a facetious hypothetical ... what if St John's miraculously beats # 1 Nova in Nova ... For me, I couldn't care what else happened the rest of the year ... but such a miracle may be the ultimate conundrum for NIT selectors ... me thinks ...

We were due for some breaks and we caught them.  Finally hit SOME free throws down the stretch. Didn't get totally screwed by refs against Duke on a neutral court. Missed goaltending call notwithstanding. And for first time since Lovett thing got someone to play Robin to Ponds Batman. Two of them actually.  I don't think that carries over to Nova but would like to see them maybe we 2 or 3 of others. Would have them on right track for next year.

True for next year, and having seen the roster molded over the last 3 years only suggests that we are on the right track despite the protestations of the detractors (see below). But a NIT bid somehow, someway this year ... would be a reprieve to cherish ...

Sedee Keita
Shamorie Ponds
Mikey Dixon
Justin Simon
Tariq Owens
Bryan Trimble Jr.
Marvin Clark II
Kassoum Yakwe
Marcus LoVett
Boubacar Diakite
J’Raan Brooks
Greg Williams
Josh Roberts
 

Never count your money when it's sitting on the table.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Foad on February 06, 2018, 07:28:20 AM
Most of my posts either come from ... the toilet.

That explains all the shit posting.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 06, 2018, 09:29:47 AM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.
saw Nic cage a while ago cheating on his wife at chateau marmont he is a tool and actually not that big and the asian girl he was hooking up with wasn't the good looking. This was the time SJU played at UCLA during Lavin

I do know he was great in Raising Arizona. Maybe it is impossible to be bad in a Coen Brothers movie though.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 06, 2018, 09:31:10 AM
Most of my posts either come from ... the toilet.

That explains all the shit posting.

Plus one
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on February 06, 2018, 10:17:28 AM
Most of my posts either come from ... the toilet.

That explains all the shit posting.

Plus one

* plus#2
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 06, 2018, 10:51:15 AM
Most of my posts either come from ... the toilet.

That explains all the shit posting.

Plus one

* plus#2
So no pass? We have some of the happiest 0-11 fans in the world. We may hate coach K but he has done ok for duke. Do you pansies think he is getting a pass this week? And he still may get a 1 seed
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on February 06, 2018, 11:03:29 AM
Most of my posts either come from ... the toilet.

That explains all the shit posting.

Plus one

* plus#2
So no pass? We have some of the happiest 0-11 fans in the world. We may hate coach K but he has done ok for duke. Do you pansies think he is getting a pass this week? And he still may get a 1 seed

Not sure where youre going. Mine was a shit joke.

Welcome to camp
Swim and have fun
But please don’t flush
When you do #1
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: TONYD3 on February 06, 2018, 11:12:54 AM
Sorry, was talking to other guy. For those who care. I am on the train. Made a quick tinkle didn’t stay long. Had a meeting. Off rest of day.
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: we are sju on February 06, 2018, 11:15:13 AM
Most of my posts either come from ... the toilet.

That explains all the shit posting.

Plus one

* plus#2
So no pass? We have some of the happiest 0-11 fans in the world. We may hate coach K but he has done ok for duke. Do you pansies think he is getting a pass this week? And he still may get a 1 seed

Not sure where youre going. Mine was a shit joke.

Welcome to camp
Swim and have fun
But please don’t flush
When you do #1

So every time he has diarrhea we have to suffer
Title: Re: Lessons from the Duke Game
Post by: carmineabbatiello on February 07, 2018, 12:22:53 AM
Well if you say so it must be true. Yeah as a 45 year season ticket holder (who has also gone on many road trips to follow the team including several outside the mainland US) and alum I am among the 3 worst SJU's fans in history because I criticized our coach. You are the sole arbiter of all things ST. J's basketball. Hopefully I can ascend to undisputed champion of worse ST. J's fan in your eyes because that would mean so much to me.

I don't know if you're a good fan, but you're a horrible poster. You have the potential to be the worst poster but you're too mediocre to be as truly appalling as some of your competitors. Like David Caruso, he's a very bad actor but he'll never be the worst actor while Nick Cage and Keanu Reeves are still alive.
saw Nic cage a while ago cheating on his wife at chateau marmont he is a tool and actually not that big and the asian girl he was hooking up with wasn't the good looking. This was the time SJU played at UCLA during Lavin

I do know he was great in Raising Arizona. Maybe it is impossible to be bad in a Coen Brothers movie though.

I like Leaving Las Vegas.  It's like they modeled his character after yours truly.